That sound he's talking about is actually how a lot of guitarist get that scratchy/crunchy sound into their music. It works out well for some. All depends on what sound ur lookin for.
Exactly my thought when I first saw this. It's personal preference, and people have different sized hands that might not feel comfortable picking perpendicular to the strings. I tend to play with more of a 30 to 45 degree angle, but I barely graze the string when I'm tremolo or alternate picking. I also hold the pick with a lighter grip the faster I play, eliminating the scratchy sound he's referring to. I like Dave, but he's always been the kind of guy that thinks his way is the best and only way because he's full of himself. News flash Dave, there's more than one way to solve practically any problem or hurdle lol
yea but sometimes I have heard when listening to a metal guitarist or some metal album and they are playing open palm mute or a solo and you can hear the pick hitting the string making a sound that is as loud as the note. maybe pick ups have something to do with it, plus what dave said about not holding pick parallel to string. but I get what your saying too. maybe If you listen to albums from 80s and 90s you can find example. that sound used to annoy me.
yeah I started thinking and think maybe it was the soft thin picks I would use cause I had nothing else or didnt know that there is a difference between using hard and soft picks. even when held parallel to string the soft picks bend and slide off string creating that sound. and/or pick ups and their hieghth.
@@godgetsmehigh-kjv2835 yeah some picks totally change the sound. I use a 3mm Jim Dunlop big stubby for metal cause of the sound it makes. Also Alice makes some smaller 3mm picks that are pretty nice. As everything else, depends on the sound ya want.
Notice how his hand is also parallel with the strings, i started using this form on my own recently, and switching between down strokes and gallops is much more manageable.
"Just simple lines, intertwining, with a beautiful melody. I love the key of D minor, it's the saddest of all keys, just makes you want to weep.I'm heavily influenced by Mozart and Bach". "It's beautiful, what do you call this particular piece?" "What, this? I call it "Lick My Love Pump".🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 (Heavily paraphrased from "This Is Spinal Tap")😁
D minor might have been the saddest key back in the day when we used meantone temperament, but in equal tone temperament which we use today the distances between the notes are the same no matter what key. Today it really depends on timbre that the instrument produces in the position that you play. Eg. Open string sounds different on violin and guitar than if you play something by fretting. If you think Dm is the saddest for you fine but it is not a proven fact. Might just be preference or you tell yourself that because someone said it eons ago.
The reason he picks like this is because unlike James he doesn't straight down pick when chugging. He keeps the pick fairly straight at nearly a 90 degree angle to the strings. that way his upstrokes grab as much string as the downstrokes. Usually when alternate picking on chugs the upstroke can sound weaker. If you hold your pick and get into it the same up as down it's less noticable.
Two game changers for me: - finding out I always loved and used the same Dunlop pick as Dimebag Darrell - then finally learning to tilt my pick like Fave is explaining here. If you use too thick of a pick then you can’t play other licks or strum well, but using the adequate thinner picks come with delayed notes and added noise (like Dave is trying to explain). So you use the thinner picks, gouge some exes in them, and then tilt them, and voila.
Underrated comment 🏆...I often think " how does it feel to be inside looking out at the audience when you're the creator of, and blasting out a monster jam?"
Great lesson here! Best description of how to thumb a pic I've ever heard! 30yrs in music, mostly as a Vocalist this is one of THE BEST Guitar explanations
I used to use the pick like that, but every single video of picking lessons that I ever saw said that picking with the pick perpendicular to the string was wrong. They say that you must have some angle in the pick. It's a relief to hear Dave saying that
Because it technically is wrong, but when playing faster passages of metal you kind of have to use improper technique to hit the speed. It's like a right and a wrong thing lol. One person once told me rules are good to follow but sometimes rules were meant to be broken. This is one of those times
@@graftongodofmemes perpendicular means not at "right angles", it means at 90°. And it's impossible to play with the pick parallel because on this way the point of the pick would be pointing at the ground
@@scottashe984 he's not going to tell me anything I've been playing Fenders for 30 years and I have a 1978 Gibson flying V. Everyone's different and has their own beliefs and what suits them their style and what feels good in their hands. It's like Les Paul's I can't stand them they're too heavy and I just don't like the way the neck feels I've owned several.
@@badmonkey2222 If you want a good comfortable and affordable strat, don't buy a fender. If you want a good comfortable and affordable lp, don't buy a gibson.
A lot of us are self taught. I mean dam I lived in an attic with no heating or AC and for 6 months all day every day I learned what I could on the guitar. I didn’t know how to tune or string it. I just played the crap out of it.
that's actually the reason i like to use picks with a pointed tip. you can keep that picking angle (which is more comfortable for me) without that scratchy sound he talks about.
I first saw this maybe about a month after I got my own electric guitar. This is how I use my pick 9 years later. It just feels right and there’s no lag in between when my hand passes over the string and when the pick does. For me it’s exactly what I want in playing. I only really pick with the pick “standing” when I’m doing acoustic guitar or need chords that sound large and messy thru my pedals. I HAVE to play with my pick as he describes with my bass or I basically can’t use a pick. Fingers usually, ofc
He threw it in to a crowd in 91 and lost it. The person that found it brought it to a show in 2002 and he signed it. Later he realized it was his old prized axe that he had tuned just the way he likes iand he turned around and bought it from the guy and continues to play it today
I still need to check it out but I introduced my daughter to Megadeth years ago and she just called me up all excited telling me there was a new Megadeth album released
And somehow he never realized that a lowB or lowG with heavy ass strings and an Invader pickup makes this concept jet powered. He would be really happy to feel that power
The reason many are having difficulty understanding this is they are expecting it to be something profound and innovative. This is the equivalent of a mechanic saying "lefty looosey, rightey tightey". This is basic and obvious guitar technique.
Basic and obvious but most people I see playing do it wrong, with that stupid screech screech sound and the tone being not stronger than the noise, it makes a weak sound.
Yea, cuz it makes no sense that what he's doing that's being amplified through 15 stacks, makes no sense anyone would hear it. Lol ARE you kidding?? Not to mention it's just good to get these sort of chops engrained into you so when u record it's automatic. And yes, most likely, what you're playing, how you're playing, is gonna transfer through the amps since it's the strings and how hes playing being magnetized and amplified through the amps lol. Besides him having some of the most expensive, I imagine, and articulate amp and gear setups around. He's pretty picky on his sound. And you CAN hear the difference of where u pluck the strings and how through a # of stacks dude. Unless you're playing out of a pile of Spider 15's cranked to 11 on the "insane" setting.
The peddling avoids that hitting the nut type sound. And palm mute. The perfect remedy for archaic Stairway to Heaven players. Dampen your cabinet and your hand, raise the presence if need be. Attack is short but committed. More of a pick scoupe than a pedal, depends on the action.
also dave: i invented picking before guitars were invented. now everyone’s doing it. except metallica. man i hate metallica. you know they kicked me out of their band?
we all know Dave wrote all Metallica albums but st anger Garage and Hardwired. He also was nice enough to write all of Stephen Kings book and the Bible and how could we forget he was the writer for the very hungry caterpillar
You talk abought recovering this Katt is a true musian it's in his blood to go threw what he has and still be one of the best a highly intelligent person who hit the ground hard got back up that is recovery he is someone to look up to and see that a person alway has a chance to recover there life back and continue your dream and goals of your life and your musicianship ...Roland J Gutierrez from Magdalena New Mexico USA 🇺🇸
I remember getting conpliments about my palm mute technique. I had no idea what the dude meant since i thought it was just palm muting 🤷🏻♂️ turns out years watching mustaine play and i can vary the mute alot & apparently not everyone can do it 😅. Cheers dave
Isn't it odd that some TH-cam "teachers" say pick the opposite way lol. I just play what's comfortable for me. I'm not on stage, I'm intermediate any way, so obviously i make lots of mistakes. Part of learning aye.
This dude takes anything he plays and tries to make it sound about 5,000 more technical than what it is. Kinda like when describing his little “spider chords” “Upside down chords.”
Dave's so badass he autographs his own guitar
Exactly
Maybe was ment for James as a gift, 🤔
When Dave was born, he congratulated the doctor
@@Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrngood one 😂
Lmfao
Learning how to effectively palm mute when I was 11 was a game changing event for me.
It was like one of the first things I learned. My guitar teacher would get irritated because I would just go chug chug chug chug chug chug
@@willliam1343 eh, which part of smells like teen spirit using palm muting?
@@beefnacos6258 yes but it’s so satisfying to a young kid! It drives you to keep playing.
@@matthewsolina4920 absolutely
@@Danumurti18 The literal opening riff 😭
Ive watched this like 6 times and still dont know what the hell he's talkin about.
Rotate the pick a bit so it's angled. Don't pick the string with the pick flat or else it'll require more force to pluck the string
Oh thank god. I thought I was just plum stupid for a minute.
He doesn't either. That's why he sucks.
@@the-guy-on-your-moms-couch dont worry, u r
@@joestrum8056 yeah well maybe he’s not a player or a Dave Mustaine fan. I am also not much of a fan
That sound he's talking about is actually how a lot of guitarist get that scratchy/crunchy sound into their music. It works out well for some. All depends on what sound ur lookin for.
Exactly my thought when I first saw this. It's personal preference, and people have different sized hands that might not feel comfortable picking perpendicular to the strings. I tend to play with more of a 30 to 45 degree angle, but I barely graze the string when I'm tremolo or alternate picking. I also hold the pick with a lighter grip the faster I play, eliminating the scratchy sound he's referring to. I like Dave, but he's always been the kind of guy that thinks his way is the best and only way because he's full of himself. News flash Dave, there's more than one way to solve practically any problem or hurdle lol
yea but sometimes I have heard when listening to a metal guitarist or some metal album and they are playing open palm mute or a solo and you can hear the pick hitting the string making a sound that is as loud as the note. maybe pick ups have something to do with it, plus what dave said about not holding pick parallel to string. but I get what your saying too. maybe If you listen to albums from 80s and 90s you can find example. that sound used to annoy me.
yeah I started thinking and think maybe it was the soft thin picks I would use cause I had nothing else or didnt know that there is a difference between using hard and soft picks. even when held parallel to string the soft picks bend and slide off string creating that sound. and/or pick ups and their hieghth.
@@godgetsmehigh-kjv2835 yeah some picks totally change the sound. I use a 3mm Jim Dunlop big stubby for metal cause of the sound it makes. Also Alice makes some smaller 3mm picks that are pretty nice. As everything else, depends on the sound ya want.
Jerry Cantrell does this.
Notice how his hand is also parallel with the strings, i started using this form on my own recently, and switching between down strokes and gallops is much more manageable.
Yeah but it isn't easy😮
"Just simple lines, intertwining, with a beautiful melody. I love the key of D minor, it's the saddest of all keys, just makes you want to weep.I'm heavily influenced by Mozart and Bach".
"It's beautiful, what do you call this particular piece?"
"What, this? I call it "Lick My Love Pump".🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
(Heavily paraphrased from "This Is Spinal Tap")😁
Sort of a Mach
100% got these vibes. Spinal tap is literally just a documentary
D minor might have been the saddest key back in the day when we used meantone temperament, but in equal tone temperament which we use today the distances between the notes are the same no matter what key. Today it really depends on timbre that the instrument produces in the position that you play. Eg. Open string sounds different on violin and guitar than if you play something by fretting. If you think Dm is the saddest for you fine but it is not a proven fact. Might just be preference or you tell yourself that because someone said it eons ago.
But does he knows Indonesian folk music?
@@munismusa7099 You'd think so, wouldn't you?
I love how it starts with the classic no filter Dave,lol. "Well, I can't really show em if you want me to keep playing it stupid.." 🤣🤣🤣
Dave playing "The eye of the tiger" 😎
Great beginner song!
Eye of the Tiger reminds me of Holy Diver. anyone else feel that?
@@godgetsmehigh-kjv2835a little bit
Such a great Spinal Tap moment
Nailed it, I was dying watching this.
Shhh, can you hear that?
"...ours go to eleven..."
These are my real bones
If it was plugged in we would hear it😂
Now THIS is a useful and incredible guitar lesson. Imagine what you could learn from an hour of this
I love it when Dave plays the evil part 😃
For those that don't understand....it's dave mustaine the most unprecedented guitar player in existence
I wake up thankful everyday that he was a belligerent drunk
Unprecedented 😂
*wakes up dead@@elijahwalko4353
@@elijahwalko4353well he woke up dead😮
Ha, tell me you just got into metal.
Spinal tap moment
Especially his signature on his own guitar
One of the Greatest ever! 🔥🔥🔥
That's some rhythm guitar mastery
Npc
“And if I mute the part of the string with my palm” *plays master of puppets*
Lol
I mean, he wrote the song, why not play it??
I remember when i finally learned how to palm mute, I played nothing but breakdowns for about 8 months lol
👊🤘🤘when I learned all I did were Gallops/reverse gallops for months 😂
Hmmm😮
doesn't everybody already pick like this? cmon guys it's 2022 you should already know this. and if you didn't know now I'm pissed cause now you know!
The reason he picks like this is because unlike James he doesn't straight down pick when chugging. He keeps the pick fairly straight at nearly a 90 degree angle to the strings. that way his upstrokes grab as much string as the downstrokes. Usually when alternate picking on chugs the upstroke can sound weaker. If you hold your pick and get into it the same up as down it's less noticable.
The fact that Dave can sing while he's playing his insane rhythms is mind boggling.
Two game changers for me:
- finding out I always loved and used the same Dunlop pick as Dimebag Darrell
- then finally learning to tilt my pick like Fave is explaining here.
If you use too thick of a pick then you can’t play other licks or strum well, but using the adequate thinner picks come with delayed notes and added noise (like Dave is trying to explain). So you use the thinner picks, gouge some exes in them, and then tilt them, and voila.
Thin picks
Exactly
😊😊😊
Dm. It's the saddest of all keys. I don't know why, but it makes people weep, instantly, when you play it
Someone’s been watching Spinal Tap
Dave your the best in the speed metal genre!
Be careful putting Dave down...remember the sex-hex!
I'm pretty sure it was more thrash
Imagine being able to look at your own hands and think "They can play the guitar solo in Holy Wars... The Punishment Due!!!!"
Underrated comment 🏆...I often think " how does it feel to be inside looking out at the audience when you're the creator of, and blasting out a monster jam?"
Great lesson here! Best description of how to thumb a pic I've ever heard! 30yrs in music, mostly as a Vocalist this is one of THE BEST Guitar explanations
Hmm close
I like using small pick only😮😊
I used to use the pick like that, but every single video of picking lessons that I ever saw said that picking with the pick perpendicular to the string was wrong. They say that you must have some angle in the pick. It's a relief to hear Dave saying that
Same here. Some people use both, picking parallel sounds warmer
Because it technically is wrong, but when playing faster passages of metal you kind of have to use improper technique to hit the speed. It's like a right and a wrong thing lol. One person once told me rules are good to follow but sometimes rules were meant to be broken. This is one of those times
@@beefnacos6258 Great comment
Perpendicular means at right angles.hes talking about being PARALLEL to the string.
@@graftongodofmemes perpendicular means not at "right angles", it means at 90°. And it's impossible to play with the pick parallel because on this way the point of the pick would be pointing at the ground
That guitar has been through hell and back and still kicking.
He's endorsed by Gibson now. And like Jackson and Dean he'll tell you why Gibson is the best (that he's currently selling)
@@scottashe984 he's not going to tell me anything I've been playing Fenders for 30 years and I have a 1978 Gibson flying V. Everyone's different and has their own beliefs and what suits them their style and what feels good in their hands. It's like Les Paul's I can't stand them they're too heavy and I just don't like the way the neck feels I've owned several.
@@badmonkey2222 yeah the way the neck meets the heel and the way they have trouble staying in tune. I'm not a huge fan
@@badmonkey2222 If you want a good comfortable and affordable strat, don't buy a fender. If you want a good comfortable and affordable lp, don't buy a gibson.
It was bad form, and self taught, but I've held a pick this way since I was 12.
A lot of us are self taught.
I mean dam I lived in an attic with no heating or AC and for 6 months all day every day I learned what I could on the guitar. I didn’t know how to tune or string it. I just played the crap out of it.
He’s an amazing guitarist ❤
He's absolutely 💯
Incredible guitarist and musician
Interviewer:
“Do you think you can show the people at home?!”
Dave: 🤨
i just started doing this subconsciously i never knew it was actually a thing people did
I love attention to detail dave has.
He is right...However it's a bit SpinaTap' ish! 😅
Legendary
I own this guitar. Absolutely love it. I already attack the strings the same way. Great minds. 😉
I never play with the pick flat. Never have. and I agree with this man.
Years of string. Dead string. Live string. Picked string. Fingered string. The string loves you more than you love the string, always.
Love you dave! ❤ been growing with ya. Keep kicking ass!
To learn the instrument so intimately makes Dave Mustaine more than just a master!
Dave and cliff where in a band back when cliff was 17, he passed away in 1986.. at age 24.. and people still talk about him.
so?
You have composed this to say Dave passed away. You need to edit - a lot
@@rporta the truth is he’s been pretty fucked over most of his life dude
Love you Dave
He's angling his pick slightly to allow a smoother action across the string
There's so much to learn from MegaDave
He is the only Dave in the band now, so it’s either Deth Mustaine or UniDave.
thanks for the lesson!
Be well Dave i see you again❤
Picking style don't matter a lick without the Pick of Destiny.
that's actually the reason i like to use picks with a pointed tip. you can keep that picking angle (which is more comfortable for me) without that scratchy sound he talks about.
Yup
I first saw this maybe about a month after I got my own electric guitar. This is how I use my pick 9 years later. It just feels right and there’s no lag in between when my hand passes over the string and when the pick does. For me it’s exactly what I want in playing. I only really pick with the pick “standing” when I’m doing acoustic guitar or need chords that sound large and messy thru my pedals. I HAVE to play with my pick as he describes with my bass or I basically can’t use a pick. Fingers usually, ofc
Relax Dave its called Palm Muting
You must not have watched the video
Let's have some Dave I've been trying to get that rhythm down thanks for letting us all see it
He signed his own guitar 😂
Whahaha, i just noticed that!
He threw it in to a crowd in 91 and lost it. The person that found it brought it to a show in 2002 and he signed it. Later he realized it was his old prized axe that he had tuned just the way he likes iand he turned around and bought it from the guy and continues to play it today
@@dspsblyuth I don’t think it’s that guitar you’re thinking of , it would’ve been a Jackson guitar in 1991. The one he’s playing here is a dean
I’m gonna be honest with you megadeths new album was a masterpiece! So many good songs on it!
I still need to check it out but I introduced my daughter to Megadeth years ago and she just called me up all excited telling me there was a new Megadeth album released
Yep!
He seems like he’s pretty good at guitar.
Straight from the master’s mouth!! 🏄♂️
This is your experience in the first month with a guitar, wtf are you people saying ?
Its a whole new level of guitar playing when you think about how you pick and how you mute. The range of sound you can produce expands exponentially
And somehow he never realized that a lowB or lowG with heavy ass strings and an Invader pickup makes this concept jet powered. He would be really happy to feel that power
The reason many are having difficulty understanding this is they are expecting it to be something profound and innovative. This is the equivalent of a mechanic saying "lefty looosey, rightey tightey". This is basic and obvious guitar technique.
Agreed, right hand muting.
Basic and obvious but most people I see playing do it wrong, with that stupid screech screech sound and the tone being not stronger than the noise, it makes a weak sound.
I'm sure that can be heard over the 15 Marshall stacks.
Pretty sure it can perpendicular vs angled pick makes a huge tone difference
It’s definitely can
Yea, cuz it makes no sense that what he's doing that's being amplified through 15 stacks, makes no sense anyone would hear it. Lol ARE you kidding?? Not to mention it's just good to get these sort of chops engrained into you so when u record it's automatic. And yes, most likely, what you're playing, how you're playing, is gonna transfer through the amps since it's the strings and how hes playing being magnetized and amplified through the amps lol. Besides him having some of the most expensive, I imagine, and articulate amp and gear setups around. He's pretty picky on his sound. And you CAN hear the difference of where u pluck the strings and how through a # of stacks dude. Unless you're playing out of a pile of Spider 15's cranked to 11 on the "insane" setting.
Dude this is such a good technique!
This man beat all the odds!!!
He couldn’t beat Metallica…..🤣🤣🤣
DAVE IS METAL GOD HAIL DAVE STILL LOVE YOU 40 YEARS LATER
This sounds straight outta spinal tap.
Just listen for a minute
@@robertloerwald3 “im not hearing anything.”
I just made an '11' joke about this, yes you are bang on there lmao
He almost started pulp fiction guitar
that was an old band
@@dspsblyuth i know, that movie was full of old songs
**WHIPLASH**
Something so simple that I never gave thought to. Thanks Dave! Megadeth rocks!🤘
Oh snap that's how I've been playing since I started playing ,I never noticed till now .
Lol that was almost the solo for “One”
This goes up to 11
Thanks tips
Megadeth rules.
lmfao he started playing One at the end
The peddling avoids that hitting the nut type sound.
And palm mute. The perfect remedy for archaic Stairway to Heaven players.
Dampen your cabinet and your hand, raise the presence if need be.
Attack is short but committed. More of a pick scoupe than a pedal, depends on the action.
How long you have been playing guitar????
DAVES HAIR IS LEGENDARY
Dave is such a cool guy👍
Dave is the type of guy to make Things sound way more complicated than they are ! 🤣🤣 ! All love tho ! ❤️
Must have watched & learnt from Marty's picking😁🤘
Yeah right
I like his way of muting strings far more than using the neck and fret hand, except you can’t mute various strings his way; only all or none.
You can mute the lower string and let the upper strings resonate. But there isn't much need to.
Both ways are used for different effect. Dyers eve will have both.
Dave: I invented picking in 1952 when I was in my dad's sack. I also invented picking back in 79. Now, everyone's doing it
also dave: i invented picking before guitars were invented. now everyone’s doing it. except metallica. man i hate metallica. you know they kicked me out of their band?
This is how everyone has always picked but I do it so I'm awesome
we all know Dave wrote all Metallica albums but st anger Garage and Hardwired. He also was nice enough to write all of Stephen Kings book and the Bible and how could we forget he was the writer for the very hungry caterpillar
I would say this is picking lesson 101 but it’s too simple even for that!😂
You talk abought recovering this Katt is a true musian it's in his blood to go threw what he has and still be one of the best a highly intelligent person who hit the ground hard got back up that is recovery he is someone to look up to and see that a person alway has a chance to recover there life back and continue your dream and goals of your life and your musicianship ...Roland J Gutierrez from Magdalena New Mexico USA 🇺🇸
I remember getting conpliments about my palm mute technique. I had no idea what the dude meant since i thought it was just palm muting 🤷🏻♂️ turns out years watching mustaine play and i can vary the mute alot & apparently not everyone can do it 😅. Cheers dave
The angled pick along with a inward push delivers the squeal...you discover these things with over drive.
When Dave was born he slapped the doctor.
Useful.
I was sad when he was gone (Metallica !) But we have megadeth !🤘💯 Dave the man !
Awesome!
I never wouldve listened to this guy if it wasnt for metallica
He sounds just like Wally Cleaver.
LMAO. BEST COMMENT 🤘😂 . HE DOES INDEED
I've always hit the pick parallel with the string. Everyone says 45 degrees or whatever, but I go 180
Proceeds to play part of ONE at the end😂
I want that guitar
Sounds like April Wine I like to rock.
He is so technical that he borders on Paganini!!
Damn. My mind went right to Spinal Tap.
Pick slanting !
Isn't it odd that some TH-cam "teachers" say pick the opposite way lol. I just play what's comfortable for me. I'm not on stage, I'm intermediate any way, so obviously i make lots of mistakes. Part of learning aye.
Way easier to play fast with the pick at an angle tho
@@danielsgrunge excacly
This dude takes anything he plays and tries to make it sound about 5,000 more technical than what it is. Kinda like when describing his little “spider chords”
“Upside down chords.”
So he is using hyperbole to get a point across?
@@itsalwayssomething7490
Or just up his own ass