Too much money...for some string benders, 3 to 400 is nuts for a metal bar and nuts, I made one myself out of a butter knife handle, sounds just like this!!
Yes, far too much money for such a simple arrangement. Still, no one is forcing us to buy this accessory. The producer would probably sell more and make more money if the price was a bit less. My view only.
Cool I thought about that too you can set stuff up like that, but this one allows you to fine tune it, set the height of the benders and tune the pitch you want to bend to exactly with 2 different benders and it’s built like a tank and stays in tune. I use it for recording and live music and I can’t be sitting there tuning and messing with jerry rigged stuff in the middle of my set so that’s why I decided to just go ahead and get what I know works.
@@meyermusic9426 also I can bend 2 strings at different perfect pitches the g half a step and the b a whole step. It’s super fun. I’ve got my moneys worth out of it for sure.
I have an 8 string sx lap steel with Certano benders. I used the stock bridge and have played it enough to realize i dont need a roller bridge. Mine atays 8n tune on the stock L bracket bridge.
If you want to use the legs, you can just flip that bracket over and put it back on. I did it on mine and it works fine. The leg is adjustable so you'll have to shorten the adjustment a bit so it'll be level.
Yep I did exactly that I didn’t know if it would screw in the same but it does and yeah just have to adjust it worked great. But taking it off that things poking your leg but oh well I just slide it off to the side a bit and it’s fine
Great Video... nice job!! Would be nice if you could have put Links... to where you purchased the Certano Bender & the Roller Bridge. I have the very same SX Lap Steel that you have... and would love to do the same mods... any chance you could send me links (in Reply to this comment) to where you purchased everything (except for the steel)? I would greatly appreciate it, if you could.... Thank You in advance. PS: I also have a National - Double neck 8 string from 1956 that I'm restoring (almost finished), an Epiphone "1939" Electar (copy) Lap Steel.. and a Double neck 6 string that I bought Really Cheap off of e-bay... and since "updated"... strings (SIT semi-flats in C6th & A6th), New pickups, and added an isolation switch for the necks. Still learning, but..... Fun!! : )
Excellent demo. Sounds great. A quick question: Does the Certano Roller Bridge have the ability to intonate each string individually, like a conventional Tune-o-matic bridge? Thanks in advance.
@@dustinadair7893... Great Video... nice job!! Would be nice if you could have put Links... to where you purchased the Certano Bender & the Roller Bridge. I have the very same SX Lap Steel that you have... and would love to do the same mods... any chance you could send me links (in Reply to this comment) to where you purchased everything (except for the steel)? I would greatly appreciate it, if you could.... Thank You in advance. PS: I also have a National - Double neck 8 string from 1956 that I'm restoring (almost finished), an Epiphone "1939" Electar (copy) Lap Steel.. and a Double neck 6 string that I bought Really Cheap off of e-bay... and since "updated"... strings (SIT semi-flats in C6th & A6th), New pickups, and added an isolation switch for the necks. Still learning, but..... Fun!! : )
That swamp ash model has sustain forever. Adding the roller bridge and benders has to be a huge upgrade as well. Not crazy about the stock bridge, works ok, but aggravating to put strings on, and unnecessary for a lap steel. My tuners will stay tuned long enough to play, but I have to retune each session.
I didn’t keep it stock for long so I don’t have much of an opinion on the bridge it had. That’s a bummer! I bought it and the benders at the same time and I played it for a day or 2 till the benders came then started modding it right away. I love this steel. Putting a dowel rod in for the benders now I can’t use the legs still but I haven’t really felt the need for them anyway.
I don't know about other people's tuning stability issues but my 8 string SX has held tuning very well for me. And I use the stock angled bridge. Heck , I didn't even have to plug the leg hole with wood lol. I'm happy with it... especially since I raised the pickup to be closer to the strings now.
Thank you for posting! I have same SX 6 strings. Since there are about 5mm hight difference between SX original and Certano`s. How do you think about clearance of pick up and strings?
thanks for the content... Is lap steel easy to learn? It seems mostly right hand doing the work ... I've been working hard on finger picking and never thought about buying one until seeing the sx for sale
@@dustinadair7893 yes good deal thanks for the reply ... I've not ventured into slide yet but I have been practicing finger picking for a few years. I think I'm gonna give both a shot now... If you know of any yt channels ..please
Thanks for posting. I just ordered an SX as my first lap steel and really like the mods you’ve done. What model of Grover tuners did you use? Many thanks in advance!
Thanks for posting! I have an 8 string SX and just received my Certano benders, bridge and nut today. This video will be invaluable. I have a couple of questions. You could not install it without filling in the hole for the leg? Second, you did not get the roller nut. Any reason why? Third, what tuning do you use? Thanks again!
Well Troy Brenningmeyers he said he installed it and the screw was sticking out of the bottom where the hole was with not much wood to anchor it down because of the hole for the leg stands so I had to glue wood in there, it’s not 100% necessary but it wont have much wood holding it if you don’t. I got the rolling nut because I thought the bridge it came with was kind of weird And the main reason is because if you’re bending the strings you’re pulling them, I’d assume you want The strings to be able to roll freely rather than rubbing on the sharp bridge. And I tune to open D
Oh I read the question wrong. I didn’t get the roller nut - not sure why just didn’t I feel like I didn’t have any problems with the nut that was on it so far so might as well use it until I think I might need to upgrade.
Has anyone installed the Peter’s Pitch Witch on an SX lap steel? I wonder if the screw placement is better and doesn’t interfere with the leg hardware? He also makes a replacement stop tail piece that is smooth that appears that it might work on the SX.
I was going to get that one, its 4 screws so you might still need a dowel rod for stability. Also I went to buy those when they were on sale, I thought I purchased them but I must not have hit the “final purchase” button when they were on sale. I tried to buy them again and he said that sale was off and it’s too bad I’d have to pay full price now. So I said screw it I’ll get the certano ones and that was the best choice for me anyway.
Troy said he liked the stock bridge, and then changed it lol. I’m buying the SX and benders - do I have to get the roller bridge too or can I not get it?
@@EclecticHillbilly you don’t have to intonate a lap steel guitar there are no frets. Theres no point lol. I thought it was kind of silly having it on there. The tone bar is your intonation.
@@MikeSheehan727 right on, one thing to consider it’s quite a bit shorter than the one so the strings with be pretty close to the pickup and it doesn’t look like you can take the pickup down very far. Maybe could route it out deeper? I’m not sure I might try something we will see.
Too much money...for some string benders, 3 to 400 is nuts for a metal bar and nuts, I made one myself out of a butter knife handle, sounds just like this!!
Yes, far too much money for such a simple arrangement. Still, no one is forcing us to buy this accessory. The producer would probably sell more and make more money if the price was a bit less. My view only.
Cool I thought about that too you can set stuff up like that, but this one allows you to fine tune it, set the height of the benders and tune the pitch you want to bend to exactly with 2 different benders and it’s built like a tank and stays in tune. I use it for recording and live music and I can’t be sitting there tuning and messing with jerry rigged stuff in the middle of my set so that’s why I decided to just go ahead and get what I know works.
@@dustinadair7893 I get it completely!
@@meyermusic9426 also I can bend 2 strings at different perfect pitches the g half a step and the b a whole step. It’s super fun. I’ve got my moneys worth out of it for sure.
Awesome! I have a black SX tuned to C6...They sound pretty good!
I have an 8 string sx lap steel with Certano benders. I used the stock bridge and have played it enough to realize i dont need a roller bridge. Mine atays 8n tune on the stock L bracket bridge.
If you want to use the legs, you can just flip that bracket over and put it back on. I did it on mine and it works fine. The leg is adjustable so you'll have to shorten the adjustment a bit so it'll be level.
Yep I did exactly that I didn’t know if it would screw in the same but it does and yeah just have to adjust it worked great. But taking it off that things poking your leg but oh well I just slide it off to the side a bit and it’s fine
Sounds great! I just ordered his tele benders, I'm a lefty so lap steels and pedal steels are hard to come by but I figure I can get close! Cheers!
Also a lefty. How’d yours turn out?
Great Video... nice job!! Would be nice if you could have put Links... to where you purchased the Certano Bender & the Roller Bridge. I have the very same SX Lap Steel that you have... and would love to do the same mods... any chance you could send me links (in Reply to this comment) to where you purchased everything (except for the steel)? I would greatly appreciate it, if you could.... Thank You in advance.
PS: I also have a National - Double neck 8 string from 1956 that I'm restoring (almost finished), an Epiphone "1939" Electar (copy) Lap Steel.. and a Double neck 6 string that I bought Really Cheap off of e-bay... and since "updated"... strings (SIT semi-flats in C6th & A6th), New pickups, and added an isolation switch for the necks. Still learning, but..... Fun!! : )
Excellent demo. Sounds great. A quick question: Does the Certano Roller Bridge have the ability to intonate each string individually, like a conventional Tune-o-matic bridge? Thanks in advance.
What kind of roller bridge?
Certano from his website
I've never played lap-steel, but I can appreciate your input in this video. BTW; it does sound sweet! (6-stringer here!)
I’m a guitar player as well but I like to attempt to play lots of other instruments, some I get into more than others.
@@dustinadair7893... Great Video... nice job!! Would be nice if you could have put Links... to where you purchased the Certano Bender & the Roller Bridge. I have the very same SX Lap Steel that you have... and would love to do the same mods... any chance you could send me links (in Reply to this comment) to where you purchased everything (except for the steel)? I would greatly appreciate it, if you could.... Thank You in advance.
PS: I also have a National - Double neck 8 string from 1956 that I'm restoring (almost finished), an Epiphone "1939" Electar (copy) Lap Steel.. and a Double neck 6 string that I bought Really Cheap off of e-bay... and since "updated"... strings (SIT semi-flats in C6th & A6th), New pickups, and added an isolation switch for the necks. Still learning, but..... Fun!! : )
@@Romans--bo7br David Certano website. I’ve bought 2 sets from him. They’re very nice benders. Put a set on my telecaster as well certano.fr
That swamp ash model has sustain forever. Adding the roller bridge and benders has to be a huge upgrade as well. Not crazy about the stock bridge, works ok, but aggravating to put strings on, and unnecessary for a lap steel. My tuners will stay tuned long enough to play, but I have to retune each session.
I didn’t keep it stock for long so I don’t have much of an opinion on the bridge it had. That’s a bummer! I bought it and the benders at the same time and I played it for a day or 2 till the benders came then started modding it right away. I love this steel. Putting a dowel rod in for the benders now I can’t use the legs still but I haven’t really felt the need for them anyway.
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I don't know about other people's tuning stability issues but my 8 string SX has held tuning very well for me. And I use the stock angled bridge. Heck , I didn't even have to plug the leg hole with wood lol. I'm happy with it... especially since I raised the pickup to be closer to the strings now.
Did you add benders? How about a roller bridge or nut?
Thank you for posting!
I have same SX 6 strings. Since there are about 5mm hight difference between SX original and Certano`s.
How do you think about clearance of pick up and strings?
I wish I could lower the pickup a bit but it doesn’t seem to be that much of a problem right now.
@@dustinadair7893 Thank you! I will teke it into consider.
Excellent! 🎸
Rondo music used to sell this SX model for under $200.
Sweet! That might have been where I got it I don’t remember
thanks for the content... Is lap steel easy to learn? It seems mostly right hand doing the work ... I've been working hard on finger picking and never thought about buying one until seeing the sx for sale
It was easy for me but I’ve played slide guitar some and messed with open tunings. If you wanna get really good with it, it takes some time.
@@dustinadair7893 yes good deal thanks for the reply ... I've not ventured into slide yet but I have been practicing finger picking for a few years. I think I'm gonna give both a shot now... If you know of any yt channels ..please
I don't suppose you know what the string gauges are?
Look at Troy Brenningmeyers set on strings by mail website, it has custom build set.
Thanks for posting. I just ordered an SX as my first lap steel and really like the mods you’ve done. What model of Grover tuners did you use? Many thanks in advance!
Grover 502C Roto-Grip Locking Rotomatic Tuners - 3+3 Chrome
On sweetwater they’re like 103$ and they were on sale for like 75$ the other day
Nice! Thank you!
Thanks for posting! I have an 8 string SX and just received my Certano benders, bridge and nut today. This video will be invaluable. I have a couple of questions. You could not install it without filling in the hole for the leg? Second, you did not get the roller nut. Any reason why? Third, what tuning do you use? Thanks again!
Well Troy Brenningmeyers he said he installed it and the screw was sticking out of the bottom where the hole was with not much wood to anchor it down because of the hole for the leg stands so I had to glue wood in there, it’s not 100% necessary but it wont have much wood holding it if you don’t. I got the rolling nut because I thought the bridge it came with was kind of weird And the main reason is because if you’re bending the strings you’re pulling them, I’d assume you want The strings to be able to roll freely rather than rubbing on the sharp bridge. And I tune to open D
Oh I read the question wrong. I didn’t get the roller nut - not sure why just didn’t I feel like I didn’t have any problems with the nut that was on it so far so might as well use it until I think I might need to upgrade.
Certano's roller nut is just a little wide for the SX neck, so it sticks out a little. It functions just fine, though.
Has anyone installed the Peter’s Pitch Witch on an SX lap steel? I wonder if the screw placement is better and doesn’t interfere with the leg hardware? He also makes a replacement stop tail piece that is smooth that appears that it might work on the SX.
I was going to get that one, its 4 screws so you might still need a dowel rod for stability. Also I went to buy those when they were on sale, I thought I purchased them but I must not have hit the “final purchase” button when they were on sale. I tried to buy them again and he said that sale was off and it’s too bad I’d have to pay full price now. So I said screw it I’ll get the certano ones and that was the best choice for me anyway.
I did take that into consideration.
Next stop, Certano Roller Nut.
Works fine without it, but whatever you prefer!
Please what tuning you use?
Open D
Troy said he liked the stock bridge, and then changed it lol. I’m buying the SX and benders - do I have to get the roller bridge too or can I not get it?
On the Certano website you can buy it as a package or individually so you don’t have to have it
I like the stock bridge because it has intonation adjustments.
@@EclecticHillbilly you don’t have to intonate a lap steel guitar there are no frets. Theres no point lol. I thought it was kind of silly having it on there. The tone bar is your intonation.
@@dustinadair7893 You don't have to intonate but I still want mine as close as I can get it. Less moving around that way.
is that the RRB1 bridge?
It’s the one that said lap steel roller bridge on the Certano website it comes as a package for 290$ I believe that’s what it’s called.
@@dustinadair7893 thanks! I have the same setup, everything but the bridge so I'm going to order that too
@@MikeSheehan727 right on, one thing to consider it’s quite a bit shorter than the one so the strings with be pretty close to the pickup and it doesn’t look like you can take the pickup down very far. Maybe could route it out deeper? I’m not sure I might try something we will see.