Cooey model 82 WWII Canadian training rifle

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  • @concretecurt
    @concretecurt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the information on that model 82 Cooey, made many a mile walking through the bush with my model 82 and my dog. Still feels comfortable 52 years later, and still able to to shoot fairly accurately. I had to laugh at your forgetting to pull the striker back, being my first rifle it is second nature when I pick it up to fire. Thanks again.

    • @gunnerjames1056
      @gunnerjames1056  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fifty two years ago I was 10 years old. I was allowed to shoot gophers on the farm at that age with my Dad's Cooey model 60. Memories. I love shooting any Cooey, but find bench shooting with the Model 82 very relaxing and enjoyable. Yes, quite accurate as well. Of course with most experience being with the model 60, the extra move to cock the 82 still messes me up once in awhile. Thanks for sharing your story, and thanks for watching concretecurt!

  • @darrickcameron1300
    @darrickcameron1300 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey I know this is an older video I just picked up a model 82 this evening it is in almost excellent condition and it came with the original green material military sling pretty excited that someone like you actually made a video about it I live in Nova Scotia Canada picked it up for 250$ Canadian it has a "C" on the bottom of the grip with the numbers ... A 4178

    • @gunnerjames1056
      @gunnerjames1056  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great news! Congratulations Darrick! These are selling for more like $450.00 to $500.00 in Alberta. Not enough Canadian stuff on TH-cam, so I am glad to try and fill in the blank spots. Yours is a true military version, so it is the most sought after of the model 82s. Having the original sling is also a great bonus. Thanks Darrick!

    • @urgamecshk
      @urgamecshk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Where in NS are ya?

    • @gunnerjames1056
      @gunnerjames1056  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@urgamecshk I'm in Alberta!

    • @darrickcameron1300
      @darrickcameron1300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pictou county

    • @gunnerjames1056
      @gunnerjames1056  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@darrickcameron1300 Pictou county! I had to Google it to find out where that is. Looks like an amazing place to live.

  • @Mk1rceme
    @Mk1rceme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey James! Just found your video.

    • @gunnerjames1056
      @gunnerjames1056  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad to have you aboard Dale! It's been ahwile, but I'll be making new videos again soon.

  • @photobygary
    @photobygary 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We still had these in the Army Cadets as drill rifles with no bolts when I joined in the 1970's. Nice collection piece. Ubique!

    • @gunnerjames1056
      @gunnerjames1056  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      They didn't trust you with bolts? We had the Enfield C7"s in Air Cadets. Now I here the Cadets are not allowed to shoot .22's at the range anymore, due to exposure to lead.

    • @photobygary
      @photobygary 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They trusted us with bolts, just not for the Cooey's. My old cadet corps in Pointe Claire (RMR 2806) had 6 Lee-Enfield No7 rifles, but because of our close affiliation to our affiliated regiment, we also had on loan at first, six, then eventually 18 FN-C1's. We used the Cooey's for drill, with hockey-stick pistol-grips just before the trigger-guard up until we were loaned the FN's. After that, we removed the hockey-stick grips and trained the drill-team to drill with the Cooey's using the old Lee-Enfield drill.
      My first rifle incidentally, was a Cooey Model 39, which was non-serviceable for about 35 years owing to a lost bolt. I've just recently managed to replace it with a brand new one and so my old '39 takes its place once more within my collection.
      You might find my artillery blog at 3bam.blogspot.ca/ interesting, and you might want to look up one of my older posts called "Circular Trajectory," 3bam.blogspot.ca/2013/03/circular-trajectory.html which has much to do with what cadets used to shoot and what they shoot today, plus a lot of other things.
      Ubique!

    • @gunnerjames1056
      @gunnerjames1056  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The good old days. I was an Air Cadet from 1972 to 1975, and don't regret a minute of it. Awesome! I have a Model 39 as well as a a couple Model 60's with scopes, and a mint Model 84 shotgun. I bought the shotgun new back in 1977, and the others were handed down. The purchases of Cooey 82's are recent. I have kept the military version and have since acquired a peep sight. One civilian model was sold and another is for sale.I will check out your channel and other suggested sites. Thanks Gary. Ubique!

  • @Olgi41
    @Olgi41 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Got one when I was 14 years old (1955) surplus $8.50. The forend extension is a separate piece,which I removed to lighten the gun a bit as I weighed less than 100 pounds myself and I believe the gun weighs closer to 9 lbs to make it similar to an Enfield to handle. The extension was lost years ago but I still have the gun. The barrel is a bit longer than some of the other Cooey models and possibly a bit heavier. It's very accurate and reliable.

    • @gunnerjames1056
      @gunnerjames1056  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What an awesome rifle to have at 14 years old! $8.50 doesn't sound like much, but back in 1955, it would have been about a weeks pay I am guessing. Quite incredible that you still have it. Thanks very much for watching and sharing your history with the Cooey 82' Tom!

  • @Sherpat2
    @Sherpat2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just bought a model 82 all original love the gun

    • @gunnerjames1056
      @gunnerjames1056  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stupid TH-cam! I only just now found your message! Happy to here about your purchase 2 years later. Thanks for watching and hope you have been shooting it often. Fun and accurate. Thanks P Bail!

  • @303canadiana9
    @303canadiana9 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The model 82 is based on the no4 mk1 not the no1 mk3. A great piece of Canadian history.

    • @gunnerjames1056
      @gunnerjames1056  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had just purchased this before making video and tried to be as accurate as possible, but I still had some questions regarding certain specifics. I still can't find info anywhere as to model this is based on, but probably assumed it was based on No.1 Mk.3 because of rear sight and length of forestock, with option of rear peep sight to simulate No.4 Mk.1. If you can point me the right direction regarding this information, I would be very grateful. I am still wondering if the sling for the Enfield is the one used on this rifle. Also, I did manage to get a hold of two more civilian models, one of which had a peep sight, which I have since put on this rifle in the video. Thanks for you're comments 303canadiana. Anything more I can learn is very helpful.

    • @303canadiana9
      @303canadiana9 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +gunnerjames105 The sling for the 82 is the same for the no 4. I can't think of one great source to quote, but is fairly common knowledge. These rifles were first produced around WW2, so it only make sense they would base it on the current battle rifle, which was the no4.

    • @gunnerjames1056
      @gunnerjames1056  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      We and the British started out the war with No,1 Mk.3 rifles. I would sure like to find historical proof written somewhere regarding which rifle this was truly based on. I can't find anything anywhere to show this to be common knowledge. The timing makes sense, but the appearance of the rifle with rear v notch sight matches more closely to the No. 1 Mk.3. I think the plate on the back removed for peep sight, means it could have been based on both.

    • @mikeofmanymikes2630
      @mikeofmanymikes2630 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Either you are wrong or they made them in different versions. I am looking at one right now that says NO2 MK 2 Stamped in the side of the stock. I would say it is a MK2.

  • @Sherpat2
    @Sherpat2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice rifle front barrel band is backwards should be slope to rear as per Gov Original Documents

    • @gunnerjames1056
      @gunnerjames1056  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes! You are 100% correct regarding the front band. I had this all apart after purchase to clean. I have another model 82, and that one is correct. I'm very glad you pointed this out. I can assure you the problem was fixed within one minute of my noticing your comment. Thanks very much P Bail!!

  • @martkbanjoboy8853
    @martkbanjoboy8853 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yt claimed I put a spam comment on this vid and it was removed under the spam category.They did not have the comment details. Can you tell me when the comment was ppsted?

  • @JoeyP322
    @JoeyP322 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know this video is old, big I’ve read that only a little over 34,000 were ever made, and they stopped making them in 1945 at the end of the war... so is this a rare rifle ? Did they make more civilian versions or was 34,000 the total for both?

    • @gunnerjames1056
      @gunnerjames1056  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, I researched this rifle before making this video, and I've taken another stab at it again, to try and answer your questions. It is difficult to find a true answer. I know a contract was made for 34,810, but what was the actual number produced? In my research I've come to find out, as an example, a contract for the 1941 Johnson by the Dutch government was for 70,000 rifles, but the actual number produced was less than 30,000. so lets say 34,000 model 82's were built for the Canadian military. That is a low number, and how many of the model 82's produced still exist. I have heard many were decommissioned, and chopped up. The military version does seem harder to find than the civilian. I can't find any information on civilian numbers produced. Sold a civilian version last year for $450.00. Still have the rifle in the video, with an added correct rear peep sight, and another civilian version.Thanks for your interest and questions. Wish I could be more help. Thanks Joey P!

    • @JoeyP322
      @JoeyP322 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      gunnerjames105 thanks for your response. I recently acquired a military Model 82. The metal was normal for the age but the wood is mint !! Bore is pretty clean. It’s very beautiful. Definitely a safe queen. Not much on these on the Internet. Thanks again for your help.

    • @gunnerjames1056
      @gunnerjames1056  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, there isn't much for info. I believe the fact that they were made in low numbers as a trainer, and a Canadian firearm, they remain quite obscure. I am happy to hear you are also the proud owner of such a great part, of the history of Canada. After responding yesterday, I took mine out tonight and fine tuned the peep sight at fifty yards. Got her almost where I want her to shoot. I am a perfectionist, and will fine tune a bit more till' I'm satisfied. I hope you allow yourself the pleasure of shooting yours. I don't believe in safe queens. If you handle it well, and clean it, it will always look good, and you'll see how much fun, and accurate they are to shoot. Thanks Joey P!

  • @kevinjones8496
    @kevinjones8496 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    See if your flinching issue can be solved by practicing your trigger control

    • @gunnerjames1056
      @gunnerjames1056  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Trigger control Okay. It was mostly anticipation of recoil and sound on handguns in a small chamber at the gun range. Since the video, I have rid myself of any flinch. I'm concentrating on the front sight and just squeezing the trigger without any thought other than holding steady on the target. Thanks Kevin!