I’ve had my FRX for 4 years now and learned to freeskate on them. Been through 3 liners, 3 wheelsets, upgraded the frames, even had a crack on one of the boots. Still love them, because they’re very comfortable 😊
Here's the misconception about Intuition liners... they became popular because of their responsiveness amongst the Wizard community & the ability to down size shell size because of their thinner density. Which in either case, they sit atop the ladder. But as their popularity grew, people twisted things up & assumd that responsiveness equates into comfort. How that came about is baffling because those 2 words aren't synonyms nor interchangeable. Then folks just jumped on the bandwagon, started dropping $200 on liners & regurgitated what everyone that came before then said. Manufacturers caught on & had Intuition make a scaled back, dumbed down, oem version of their liner for their skates & all the sheeple thought, "oh snap, I can get this complete skate that comes with an Intuition liner for $250-300 & the liner alone is worth $200...what a score". Then comes the, "not exactly what I expected" because a bunch of urban & aggressive skaters bought into the hype spewed by Wizard skaters. Those 3 genres of skating look for 3 completely different traits in a skate/liner.
@@sebasosorio9084 I am thinking about the same thing, eyeing an FR SL or an Igor.. Dunno which one to choose, or just get a Premium Intuition for my FR1s atm
The J- bars inside the stock FR liners are massive and it's also a thick liner especially when it isn't broken in, great for stiff skates like FR... BUT if you need a more supportive liner for example, people that urban skate with longer frames and want the fastest reacting skate with a tighter fit in the smallerst shell then Intuition is the way but the main points are responsiveness and performance... comfort comes 3rd down the road once they're properly broken in... and if you want the thinnest smallest liner available with minimal support but comfortable, there's the 2nd skin from MyFit...Well done with the vid, keep rolling 🤘
I've gone through a couple of skates. Twisters, Next, k2s, and lastly my Fr2s. It never fit me even though I studied and research so much about sizing, after 20-30 of riding my feet just hurts so much. I found a local shop here in NYC to try and get some opinion from a skater. We tried a couple of sizes from 10-11 skate. my Mondo size is 27cm but the Fr2s I have is actually 28.5cm, so I was confuse but I trust the owner of the store. After the next I tried skating and it didnt even hurt after 30 mins. Now I've practicing basic stops and backward skating cuz I can progress now without worrying about pain. I might get a smaller liner in the future cuz this feels a little bit roomy. Tnx for the video!
I see that V shape at the Achilles tendon and that's exactly what my Edge XTs liners have, which are just awesome ones. I see the lack of a V shape in the Intuition and I already know they will not grab your heel as good and I wouldn't like them just because of that. Not sure if you can heatmold that part but you could give it a try.
As a response to this comment, the entire liner is heat moldable. I molded mine that were a bit too tight and now they completely form fit my foot. My heel is completely locked into place with no lift
This is a great review, I've been curious as to how the heel holding is for the intuition but have not managed to find sufficient pictures or reviews about the inner padding is. Especially helpful since I have no local access to the liners to compare. Thanks!
I tried the old 90's RB liner the seba e3 liner and the twister XT liner. Currently I have the stock FR1 liner and it's the only one that I haven't experienced any foot pain with. I'll probably replace it with another FR liner once this one gives out.
Did you skate the same boot with both these liners? Because it's better to think of the Intuition liner as the downsizeable liner. It's not really a question of which liner is more comfortable. So for example you have a 275 foot, you'd probably get the US size 10. But that is a dual-size shell which is actually *exactly* the same as the US size 11 (which just comes with a bigger liner). Therefore you end up in a 290-295mm shell, which is far from ideal. So the best option in this case is to get the US size 8-9 shell (next shell down and about 280-285mm shell) with the Intuition liner. I.e. the Intuition being about 5-10mm thinner gives you that option. Goal should always be to get into a shell where you are at the top end of the shell sizing. Deluxe is a really bad name for the model as it gives the wrong impression.
Damn I wish I had seen this video before ordering. Now I'm just going to cross my fingers that the hoops I jumped through to get intuition liners in the Fr1 90s I ordered end up fitting my foot well.
You said the FR1 liners are better and more comfortable because they’re thicker, but can you talk about the difference in fit? Such as how much support each liner gives? how each liner holds the ankle? Is there a looser or tighter feeling with each liner after break in? It would be good to know how each of these fit different foot types, like low vs high volume feet etc…
So I ordered fr2 skates eu size 42 boot size 8. Well with the fr liner it is just too tight. I thought I could break them in but my foot starts to ache. I was thinking about getting intuition liners cause if they are thinner it relieve the discomfort.
Yah I have the fr1 90 flat ,the stock liner is cushy and snug, I was considering returning to get the fr1 ufr intuition 90 rockered. What u guys think?
Thanks so much for this review and comparison. I was actually debating whether I should have gone for the FR1 or FR1 Deluxe. I had read some people say that they downsized for the regular FR1 and it fit extremely tight at first, and then broke in where they were very comfortable, but then after a while they packed in even more to become too roomy and loose... so I wanted to ask you since you've skated them for more than a year, do you find that the stock FR1 liner eventually packs in to the point where it feels too roomy and loose fitting? I also wanted to ask if you had any problem getting a good supportive fit by tightening the top buckle due to the top of the regular liner being so thick and cushy? My feet are an E width, so they're considered "wide" on shoe charts, but I also have a pretty low volume foot because I'm skinny, which is why I'm kind of interested in the regular FR1 liners, because it seems maybe the thickness of them will help with filling out the space where the intuitions being thiner may not. I've tried the FR1 in a half size down, and they feel very snug all over the foot (to the point where they feel super constrictive after 10 minutes) yet the fit feels like a potentially good performance fit out of the box, the length feels right... but I'm just not sure if the liner is going to pack down so much to the point where they feel too loose. Would love your feedback on this. Thanks!
So I've found that in my most worn pair of FR liners, the padding will eventually wear in a little, but it will remain very cushy with plenty of ankle support. With the intuition liner made for FR, it already seems to come fairly packed with not much cushion. I'll do a video going in on this topic this week. But, the fit of the standard Fr1 is interesting. I believe they are selling the deluxe version in a wider variety of half sizes. I wear a 44 in standard and a 44.5 in deluxe. I haven't seen one real benefit in buying the deluxe; even my strap broke the other day. My standards are still plugging away after 2 years of almost constant use. The only thing to wear it was my laces. The only other thing I'll touch on briefly is the school of thought that liners are like laces and wheels and eventually should be replaced as well. While not nearly as often, liners could be replaced every year if necessary.
@@tech_know_sk8er Thanks for the response. I look forward to your video. I actually ended up getting the regular FR1, and the thick padding on the inside does hug my ankles and the rest of the foot tightly. I guess my question is, if the regular thick padded liner can really hold your ankle and everything else in place, how can a much thinner liner line the Intuition snuggly hold the ankle and foot in place? I understand that sizing down will make the Intuition more snug, but I just don't understand how it could fill out all the negative spaces the contours of the foot makes. From what I've heard from other people, the Intuition, while being less cushy than the stock liner, is support to be more supportive and responsive, due to it being taller and more dense, but I'd like to hear your experience with that. I find that even if I tighten my laces and straps, I still get a bit of lateral wobble, and I can feel lateral ankle movement... I'm not sure it that's good or bad thing, but I imagine that if you're landing jumps, you probably very good support around the upper cuff? I read that the Deluxe liner is put into one shell size smaller than the equivalent regular liner.
As a beginner, I have the FRX but very curious. If I upgrade is the ability to learn will be easier because of the power transfer can you help shall I get an upgrade or keep to the basic level?
Yes I personally find the original FR brand liner more comfortable than the base version of the intuition liner that is sold with the deluxe FR1 edition. Thank-you so much for watching 💯🎊🎉🎊😃
@@tech_know_sk8er I heard from many others that you have more connection to the skate with the intuition.... I still confused. Should i try the Liner or not... maybe think about again haha
@Roman Werner You're correct to be confused, there's lots of information to try to absorb at once. If my understanding is correct the intuition liners that come with the fr1 deluxe are in no way the same as say the liners sold with the wizard skate or one of the upgraded versions available on intuitions website. In just my personal opinion between the liners I have access to, I prefer the FR liner.
Hi tech-know-sk8r Just got my pair of fr1 deluxe with intuition liners. I already have a normal pair of fr1 which I like. Got to say not impressed with the intuition liners (to stiff and hard) was thinking of sending the lot back then had an idea to save returns and so on etc. could I use my original liners? I’ve tried them they seem fine. Or are the fr1 deluxe with intuition liners only designed for intuition liners does anyone know?
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I’ve had my FRX for 4 years now and learned to freeskate on them. Been through 3 liners, 3 wheelsets, upgraded the frames, even had a crack on one of the boots. Still love them, because they’re very comfortable 😊
Here's the misconception about Intuition liners... they became popular because of their responsiveness amongst the Wizard community & the ability to down size shell size because of their thinner density. Which in either case, they sit atop the ladder. But as their popularity grew, people twisted things up & assumd that responsiveness equates into comfort. How that came about is baffling because those 2 words aren't synonyms nor interchangeable. Then folks just jumped on the bandwagon, started dropping $200 on liners & regurgitated what everyone that came before then said. Manufacturers caught on & had Intuition make a scaled back, dumbed down, oem version of their liner for their skates & all the sheeple thought, "oh snap, I can get this complete skate that comes with an Intuition liner for $250-300 & the liner alone is worth $200...what a score". Then comes the, "not exactly what I expected" because a bunch of urban & aggressive skaters bought into the hype spewed by Wizard skaters. Those 3 genres of skating look for 3 completely different traits in a skate/liner.
Well said, I personally would save my money and go with a complete Freestyle skate for precision skating or wizard skating
@@sebasosorio9084 I am thinking about the same thing, eyeing an FR SL or an Igor.. Dunno which one to choose, or just get a Premium Intuition for my FR1s atm
Thanks for the honest review, my experience the same as yours, sending deluxe back and ordering regular fr1s :)
The J- bars inside the stock FR liners are massive and it's also a thick liner especially when it isn't broken in, great for stiff skates like FR... BUT if you need a more supportive liner for example, people that urban skate with longer frames and want the fastest reacting skate with a tighter fit in the smallerst shell then Intuition is the way but the main points are responsiveness and performance... comfort comes 3rd down the road once they're properly broken in... and if you want the thinnest smallest liner available with minimal support but comfortable, there's the 2nd skin from MyFit...Well done with the vid, keep rolling 🤘
I've gone through a couple of skates. Twisters, Next, k2s, and lastly my Fr2s. It never fit me even though I studied and research so much about sizing, after 20-30 of riding my feet just hurts so much. I found a local shop here in NYC to try and get some opinion from a skater. We tried a couple of sizes from 10-11 skate. my Mondo size is 27cm but the Fr2s I have is actually 28.5cm, so I was confuse but I trust the owner of the store. After the next I tried skating and it didnt even hurt after 30 mins. Now I've practicing basic stops and backward skating cuz I can progress now without worrying about pain. I might get a smaller liner in the future cuz this feels a little bit roomy. Tnx for the video!
Thanks for watching!! I'm so glad you were able to find a good fit!! Happy skating always 😊😊
I see that V shape at the Achilles tendon and that's exactly what my Edge XTs liners have, which are just awesome ones. I see the lack of a V shape in the Intuition and I already know they will not grab your heel as good and I wouldn't like them just because of that. Not sure if you can heatmold that part but you could give it a try.
As a response to this comment, the entire liner is heat moldable. I molded mine that were a bit too tight and now they completely form fit my foot. My heel is completely locked into place with no lift
This is a great review, I've been curious as to how the heel holding is for the intuition but have not managed to find sufficient pictures or reviews about the inner padding is. Especially helpful since I have no local access to the liners to compare. Thanks!
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I really like the fr liners. My frx are now well broken in and thry fit amazing. Have a new pair of fr1 on the way. 280 bucks was an easy decision
I tried the old 90's RB liner the seba e3 liner and the twister XT liner. Currently I have the stock FR1 liner and it's the only one that I haven't experienced any foot pain with. I'll probably replace it with another FR liner once this one gives out.
Did you skate the same boot with both these liners? Because it's better to think of the Intuition liner as the downsizeable liner. It's not really a question of which liner is more comfortable. So for example you have a 275 foot, you'd probably get the US size 10. But that is a dual-size shell which is actually *exactly* the same as the US size 11 (which just comes with a bigger liner). Therefore you end up in a 290-295mm shell, which is far from ideal. So the best option in this case is to get the US size 8-9 shell (next shell down and about 280-285mm shell) with the Intuition liner. I.e. the Intuition being about 5-10mm thinner gives you that option. Goal should always be to get into a shell where you are at the top end of the shell sizing. Deluxe is a really bad name for the model as it gives the wrong impression.
That's a great explanation!! And yes i couldn't agree more with the misleading name "deluxe"
Damn I wish I had seen this video before ordering. Now I'm just going to cross my fingers that the hoops I jumped through to get intuition liners in the Fr1 90s I ordered end up fitting my foot well.
So what's the result?
@@iskindersam7834 they fit perfect I can detail my foot dimensions and skates if you'd like
You said the FR1 liners are better and more comfortable because they’re thicker, but can you talk about the difference in fit? Such as how much support each liner gives? how each liner holds the ankle? Is there a looser or tighter feeling with each liner after break in? It would be good to know how each of these fit different foot types, like low vs high volume feet etc…
So I ordered fr2 skates eu size 42 boot size 8. Well with the fr liner it is just too tight. I thought I could break them in but my foot starts to ache. I was thinking about getting intuition liners cause if they are thinner it relieve the discomfort.
I have the exactly same issue. How you enderd up ?
Have you tried heat molding the fr liner? And did you try the intuition?
@Sam182ever my foot cramps.... badly. I just end up using my same size flying eagle skates.
Yah I have the fr1 90 flat ,the stock liner is cushy and snug, I was considering returning to get the fr1 ufr intuition 90 rockered. What u guys think?
FYI, my FR1 deluxe boot came with an insole. Nevertheless i added yellow hockey insole
Thanks so much for this review and comparison. I was actually debating whether I should have gone for the FR1 or FR1 Deluxe. I had read some people say that they downsized for the regular FR1 and it fit extremely tight at first, and then broke in where they were very comfortable, but then after a while they packed in even more to become too roomy and loose... so I wanted to ask you since you've skated them for more than a year, do you find that the stock FR1 liner eventually packs in to the point where it feels too roomy and loose fitting? I also wanted to ask if you had any problem getting a good supportive fit by tightening the top buckle due to the top of the regular liner being so thick and cushy?
My feet are an E width, so they're considered "wide" on shoe charts, but I also have a pretty low volume foot because I'm skinny, which is why I'm kind of interested in the regular FR1 liners, because it seems maybe the thickness of them will help with filling out the space where the intuitions being thiner may not. I've tried the FR1 in a half size down, and they feel very snug all over the foot (to the point where they feel super constrictive after 10 minutes) yet the fit feels like a potentially good performance fit out of the box, the length feels right... but I'm just not sure if the liner is going to pack down so much to the point where they feel too loose. Would love your feedback on this. Thanks!
So I've found that in my most worn pair of FR liners, the padding will eventually wear in a little, but it will remain very cushy with plenty of ankle support. With the intuition liner made for FR, it already seems to come fairly packed with not much cushion. I'll do a video going in on this topic this week. But, the fit of the standard Fr1 is interesting. I believe they are selling the deluxe version in a wider variety of half sizes. I wear a 44 in standard and a 44.5 in deluxe. I haven't seen one real benefit in buying the deluxe; even my strap broke the other day. My standards are still plugging away after 2 years of almost constant use. The only thing to wear it was my laces. The only other thing I'll touch on briefly is the school of thought that liners are like laces and wheels and eventually should be replaced as well. While not nearly as often, liners could be replaced every year if necessary.
@@tech_know_sk8er Thanks for the response. I look forward to your video. I actually ended up getting the regular FR1, and the thick padding on the inside does hug my ankles and the rest of the foot tightly. I guess my question is, if the regular thick padded liner can really hold your ankle and everything else in place, how can a much thinner liner line the Intuition snuggly hold the ankle and foot in place? I understand that sizing down will make the Intuition more snug, but I just don't understand how it could fill out all the negative spaces the contours of the foot makes.
From what I've heard from other people, the Intuition, while being less cushy than the stock liner, is support to be more supportive and responsive, due to it being taller and more dense, but I'd like to hear your experience with that. I find that even if I tighten my laces and straps, I still get a bit of lateral wobble, and I can feel lateral ankle movement... I'm not sure it that's good or bad thing, but I imagine that if you're landing jumps, you probably very good support around the upper cuff?
I read that the Deluxe liner is put into one shell size smaller than the equivalent regular liner.
As a beginner, I have the FRX but very curious. If I upgrade is the ability to learn will be easier because of the power transfer can you help shall I get an upgrade or keep to the basic level?
Thank you so much 😊 🇨🇭
so you prefer the originl liner? So i go with that
Yes I personally find the original FR brand liner more comfortable than the base version of the intuition liner that is sold with the deluxe FR1 edition. Thank-you so much for watching 💯🎊🎉🎊😃
@@tech_know_sk8er I heard from many others that you have more connection to the skate with the intuition.... I still confused. Should i try the Liner or not... maybe think about again haha
@Roman Werner You're correct to be confused, there's lots of information to try to absorb at once. If my understanding is correct the intuition liners that come with the fr1 deluxe are in no way the same as say the liners sold with the wizard skate or one of the upgraded versions available on intuitions website. In just my personal opinion between the liners I have access to, I prefer the FR liner.
I need less lateral ankle support it just painful I want to take some material out of the liner
Hi tech-know-sk8r
Just got my pair of fr1 deluxe with intuition liners. I already have a normal pair of fr1 which I like. Got to say not impressed with the intuition liners (to stiff and hard) was thinking of sending the lot back then had an idea to save returns and so on etc. could I use my original liners? I’ve tried them they seem fine.
Or are the fr1 deluxe with intuition liners only designed for intuition liners does anyone know?
I also feel the same, to be honest I prefer boots with air holes, when I wear FR1 my feet sweat faster
I always use fr basic boots they are awesome very comfortable.
💯💯💯 thank you for watching 🙌🎊🎊🎉😃
Intuition is great for my wider feet because they're thinner.
fr trash 😂
quit with all the ummm ummm ummm umumum
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm no