*My bad at 1:18 the hebrew characters for Leviathan are backwards, I think it was a transfer problem so sorry Edit: Also sorry for not listing all these sources in the video here's some of my sources so go check 'em out: Sources: Dictionary of Deities and Demons in the Bible by Karel van der Toorn and Pieter Willem van der Horst (www.friendsofsabbath.org/Further_Research/e-books/Dictionary-of-Deities-and-Demons-in-the-Bible.pdf) Yahweh and the gods and goddesses of Canaan by John Day God's conflict with the dragon and the sea by John Day From Creation to Babel: Studies in Genesis 1-11 by John Day Indo-European Poetry and Myth by Martin Litchfield West The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, Volume 4 By Geoffrey W. Bromiley The Old Testament: A Historical and Literary Introduction to Hebrew Scriptures by Michael D. Coogan Creation And Chaos in the Primeval Era And the Eschaton Book by Hermann Gunkel
TREY the Explainer I love the video I’d love to share my thoughts with you, in your video you said regardless of country or religion everyone hates snakes but in southern america the snake is a symbol of luck and the Aztecs top god was a serpent
Honestly, Leviathan being one of many interpretations of a proto-myth going all the way back to the PIE culture is *way* cooler than it just being a dinosaur or something.
I know, it gives me chills to think that tens of thousands years ago, someone told the proto-story and it's still going strong. So much more amazing than nonsense about the Dino time line.
The Bible mentions truth, we shouldn't compare it to forgeries and myths. In the crowd of story's it looks no different but the history of the Jews is real and Christianity wouldn't exist without Christ. Jesus was witnessed to be the promised Messiah, the savior of the world.
@@specilegg Just because a document says it's true doesn't mean it is. The earliest known manuscripts of the bible were written hundreds of years after the events they claim to document; plenty of time for mythical elements to be added even if they are somewhat based on stuff that actually happened. Studying these ancient texts can yield fascinating insights into the culture they came from, but only if you're willing to set aside unquestioned religious dogma and approach them just like you would a Norse saga or Chinese legend. I sincerely hope you find the strength to break free of your mental shackles. There's a vast ocean of knowledge out there to explore, but only if you're curious enough to look. (:
@@n.e.v.e.r the dates are fabricated by paid "biblical scholars" that are really propaganda artists. The Bible had to be written before 70 Ad when the temple had not been destroyed and Jesus talked about it's destruction. In the gospel of John it mentions that the disciple that leaned on Jesus's breast at the last supper was the one who wrote the gospel. The Bible is in eye witness Jesus.
1:15 this kind of description is very common in ancient texts. When a text is being re written over thousands of years and entire books or chapters being thrown away every now and then, you end up with characters and events that the authors casually mention as if you are supposed to know, but you don’t know because by the time you are reading the text the previous chapters have been lost.
There is also the fact that the audience of the day would have already been familiar with the story. It would make sense to the authors of the time to not need to go into detail about everything. The way I see it we need to not look at this to the lens of our modern understanding of how the world works. What we're reading in these myths is the general consensus of how our ancestors thought the world worked. It makes sense you're going to find overlap.
Reminds me how in the book of Numbers they quote a book called 'the book of the wars of The Lord' when describing the borders of a place they travelled through, and its done so casually. And later after a battle The Lord commands Moses to write of the battle in 'the book', which is not specified, some scholars think that God was reffering to this book of the wars of The Lord. Theres other books that ocasionally get mentioned, quoted or refferenced and we dont come back to them, which makes sense if the writers knew that their audience was already familiar with it, meanwhile nowadays its lost so we are left to wonder.
I'm fascinated at how ancient humans were so terrified of snakes. It's like an ancestral phobia that stretches to the very origins of humanity. No wonder Lucifer transforms into a serpent in Genesis
Snakes take a perfectly pleasant day and out of no-where your family member or you are dead within minutes. It's the sneaky, limb-less, soul-less, silent sudden life-destroyer of the animal kingdom and that pure danger translates across cultures and species through time and generations. It's essentially what Satan does to the entire human race with a single conversation in Genesis.
I imagine a gigant sea snake being defeated by all the gods of ancient cultures and then every god taking credit for it ignoring the rest of the other pantheons
I remember growing up and going to a christian private school where they would show us these all the time. I believe the theory (mind you this was more than a decade ago for me so take this with a grain of salt) was they taught us this to explain that dinosaurs were vegetarians before the flood. This was a theory by Ken Ham the crazy Christian fundamentalist. I cant remember if the logic was because “well what did the dinosaurs eat on the ark?” or if it was something from Genesis about how Adam and Eve were vegetarians for long time before they ate the fruit of knowledge and evil.
@@paulthehalflingit's actually that all animals were herbivorous before the "fall of man." The "theory" is originally supposed to explain why predatory traits would exist if the original plan god had was for everything to be deathless and perfect. The idea proposed is that carnivore teeth are perfectly adapted to eat melons and stuff
I wonder if the great Leviathan was just flooded rivers, which could explain why Rahab means Egypt, the Nile would flood regularly. It means overflow, it leaves a trail, snake-like with multiple heads like a flooded river going down its many streams and offshoots. Sudden flash floods on rivers were exceptionally dangerous in history but we needed to be near the rivers.
That's the thing, people take everything literally. Take the hieroglyphs, how do we know everything drawn isn't an overly dramatic representation of a society out their face on LSD?
Another thing with this is that rivers flooding were generally seen as good (with influence of civilizations like mesopotamia and ancient egypt), since they provided better farmland. Adding to this, the name of the place the israelites lived in egypt during the old testament was "Goshen" meaning "flooded land".
@in777sight Every generation has had their theory on various prophecies and doomsdays. And yet the world goes on. Also if Ethiopia agrees to fill their reservoir over 7-10 years instead of just 3, Egypt won't be nearly as impacted by it and probably won't go to war.
Job did not say he was a big deal. God let Satan kill his wife, kids, and livestock. He destroyed his home, let him get full body herpes, and then scolded him for losing faith after he collapsed in a literal pile of shit.
@@malachisguides But it’s fine, I mean, God gave him a new wife and new kids, didn’t he? Who cares about those first ones! Silly humans with their interpersonal attachment and shit. Wives and children are resources after all.
so many films about the Crucification of Jesus Christ........ and other stuff in the Bible. i wanna see a Cinematic interpretation of God's Battle with Leviathan now truly the next biggest Biblical Epic since the 10 Commandments ACTUALLY 16:24 ONE OF EACH PLEASE
Man Of Creatons, peolel in the comment sectin have already started running with it. And no, he said Yahweh fought a Sea Serpnt. The Truth is, he didn't base this on actual fact, but supposition. Trey can't show you a single story about God creating the world by fighting a Sea Serpent. Calling i a Demythologised version doesn't matter if ts a lie to begin with.
"there appears to be a popular mythic trope or meme that exists in many religions and mythologies" you mean like, the virgin chaos serpent vs the chad storm god?
Started off with an examination of Leviathan and ended with the religion of the Indo-Europeans. Quite the rabbit hole indeed but those are the best videos. Very informative video!
The Bible be like : "Yeah, here's a cool creature that could use some descriptions and inspire many tales, but let's focus on that farmer questioning God."
@Cactus Juice I get what you mean, I hate it when people do those overly detailed, almost scientific description and analysis of mythical creatures. It's even more frequent in Fantasy sadly. People can't just accept the magic of a tale. But I can't really say I can defend the Leviathan. It's literally a big name drop that comes out of nowhere in the Bible, and looks too much like a paganic symbol that contrast with the overall spiritual theme of the texts. It would be like reading Pride And Prejudice and then for some reason there's a dragon that pops up. Why even focus on Joe the Farmer questioning God as he asks him if he could fish Leviathan when you could do a tale with Leviathan?
@@alexrexaros9837 It's mostly about the fact that the bible is a collection of stories and myths written down. Stories that used to be known by pretty much everyone at the time. Cherry picked stories as well, showing off how great and divine God actually is. Why would a collection of stories, involving the divine and how great they are, have a story about something like the Leviathan and how much destruction and chaos it did? There was probably a story involving the Leviathan, but they chose not to include it.
To be fair, thats what happens when a myth gets to prevalent and became a commonfolk knowledge, you dont re-explain something that everyone who can read have already know at the time. Leviathan might be very famous and mainstream cultural reference at the time, so to put it ridiculously simple, the author was using a meme to show god's flexing game
@@alexrexaros9837 "Magic" itself was a science in many ancient cultures and religions. It wasn't just random supernatural stuff to them, it was a system of logic.
I love how in Job, God reprimands him for questioning him and says he can’t fathom his reasons, but the whole thing started off as basically a bet between God and the devil.
not really... that is the situation but goal was to bring Job closer to his Creator. Satan was just a pawn in a redemption game where God can foresee the outcome already. Pride made the adversary participate in a futile game. It breaks down to, Job was bitching in his mind just not with his mouth... God can read minds.
Craig Richard one thing I always questioned Christianity is .. why do you respect a god that allows something evil to manipulate you.. and then you get doomed to hell forever????
Lisa King - That’s a load of BS. Hardly anything in Genesis comports with reality, nor is it coherent within its own narrative. It’s just an adapted ancient pagan myth historicized by a subgroup of Canaanites who became known as Hebrews. In the story, El lied and told them they would die if they ate from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. After the serpent told them both the truth, they took fruit from the tree. El punished them by making man work hard to toil the soil and women to have pain during childbirth. He banished them from the Garden of Eden to prevent them from eating from the Tree of Life. That’s it, there was never a mention of original sin initially and the serpent was never meant to be Satan; that is a later interpretation. Does it make any sense to give life to creatures with the naïveté and curiosity of a child and then condemn them for eternity for metaphorically ‘touching the hot stove’?? Lisa, if you are going to argue on behalf of Biblical scripture you should at least read it thoroughly first, and understand the context beyond the spoon-fed superficial sermons of the Sunday morning pews..
@@KithandKings it was not the tree of life, it was the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Satan tempted eve to steal that fruit from the LORD God. All they had to do was ask, but instead of letting the LORD God give it to them and explain...they stold it and fear entered into them as a result causing them shame. The disobedience and even the theft is forgivable, but neither Adam nor Eve wanted to take responsibility for their actions. Adam blamed Eve, Eve blamed Satan, then Satan said nothing....just as Jesus did at His trial. This is the moment when Satan gained power over man, God put him on a leash.....this is reality. Satan has no power over man unless man is not willing to take responsibility for his own actions....a.k.a the accuser.....the teee of life remains uncorrupted and protected by cherubims and a flaming sword....that sword is the Word of God, and it can give life and take it away....use it wisely.
"No. This is my God! Leviathan! Lord of the Labyrinth!!" Google it. It's a great scene. The special effects are quite dated but it's still pretty intense.
I wanted to make a story about the Chaos Snake where in it turns out all of the sea dragons of all of the worlds mythologies who have fought countless regional storm gods is actually the same dragon, but nobody has ever seen the whole dragon. It travels around collecting the L's of every encounter it has with all of the storm gods.
This guy gets it. I never heard of Rahab before so I wonder how many people in Melville's time immediately recognize his allusion. I knew Ahab was a minor biblical character as well so maybe that made the correlation a little less obvious? I dunno but I love any book that is enough source material for an entire Mastodon concept album.
No. The adjective we use today, behemoth-later came to mean a huge prophetic Ox or even elephant's and at the discovery of whales, also was used to describe them at the height of whale hunting in the 1800s. The expression was coined from religious and historical writings
Concidering the fact people in the past had more contact to religious texts it is no that hard to assume , they would have noticed the pun . The first atheists have been rised with religion and found it stupid ... so they would have liked the pun even more :D
Glad I'm not the only one who instantly made that connection. Maybe Herman Melville got inspiration for Ahab via Rahab? I wouldn't be surprised: if I'm not mistaken he was a very religious man. Also I visited the house of one of his descendants during yet another Vineyard trip. It was lovely and filled with whales. :)
Dodoraptor and other animals "And other semitic languages like Arabic" All living Isis members are screeching and rage and all the dead ones are rolling in their graves. And for once the expression "___ is rolling in their grave" is used positively.
My jaw dropped when I actually read Job for the first time in my 20's and saw that the "leviathan" """"""""""dinosaur"""""""""""", was not only *a goddamn FIRE BREATHING DRAGON* , but, as if that wasn't insane enough, a *water-dwelling goddamn FIRE BREATHING DRAGON.*
Fantastic analysis. Tremendous level of knowledge. But the bulls-eye was not hit, unfortunately. The world wide dragon legends come from a close contact by a comet, the comet Venus. How is that possible? Thunderbolts Project talks of an Electric Universe, Worlds in Collision, and the Saturn Myth. An improbable answer to a puzzling history.
It always amuse me how there was a person who wrote there's a fire breathing water-dwelling monster. As if fire would be any useful for hunting or battling anything in the bottom of the ocean lol.
Hey Trey just as a heads up Im Israeli and so I speak and write Hebrew. The text you wrote for the word Leviathan in Hebrew is backwards. ןתיול not לויתן its spelled I know its confusing in Hebrew we write from right to left. Anyway great video man :D
My bad, I just copied and pasted the text from one of my mythology books so I guess it might have been messed up over the transfer thanks for the correction ;)
@@christianpathfinder6864 Maybe, or maybe not... There's really no way to know this sort of thing. Unless we find an ancient Coles notes on leviathan & Satan from some 10,000 years ago... Adam
@@timothyfarrand8407 While I agree with your answer to the prior commenter... There's no way to know if those 2 characters originally were intended to describe 1 creature/character or not. There's also no way to know for certain whether or not there was ever a real person that the character of Jesus is based on. There's some reason to believe that the Jesus character was portrayed as a savior/god. However, there's no reason or evidence whatsoever, to believe or think that Jesus (a real person &/or god) actually exists now, in reality, in any way, shape or form. There's even less reasons or evidence, to believe or think, that this "Jesus" (a real human &/or god) can actually do anything, much less save anything from anything. Besides a single set of hands struggling to help a another person, does infinitely more good, then infinite sets of hands clasped together in prayer! Do something useful to help your fellow human, don't just patronize them with useless gestures/words/thoughts! Adam P.S. I'm not saying that you don't do anything to help anyone ever... I am just addressing your Jesus saves comment & commenting on the general fact that prayer is not a legit help with anything for any reason.
Yup. This myth is old. Real old. Leviathan can be a metaphor for winding rivers and floods combined with humans innate fear of serpents. I realize this video is on the older side but I do hope your channel explores the Proto-Indo-European Culture more! Its truly fascinating to talk to people of various cultures and discover how many of our myths and words we have in common which may stem from a shared ancient culture!
The Bible mentions truth, we shouldn't compare it to forgeries and myths. In the crowd of story's it looks no different but the history of the Jews is real and Christianity wouldn't exist without Christ. Jesus was witnessed to be the promised Messiah, the savior of the world.
@@specilegg Job 41:24 KJV 24His heart is as firm as a stone; yea, as hard as a piece of the nether millstone. 25 *When he raiseth up himself, the mighty are afraid: by reason of breakings they purify themselves* I wonder if line 25 could be like a parallel/foreshadow for Christ
No,it is not a metaphor. Because the Bible says Leviathan is the king of pride, a collosal and mighty beast like a dragon. Just think with me, if many cultures that did not have contact with each other had talked about the exact same thing, maybe in the time of their living they actually somehow had ocular experience with such a beast? Maybe it is a "myth" now because we don't have proof, but it doesn't take away the possibility that these cultures somehow saw something we cannot see anymore.
Behemoth (Hebrew) Bĕhēmōth, singular bĕhēmāh [from bāham to be dumb, mute] A beast, a nonspeaking living being; used in Job 40:15-23. Scholars are of the opinion that the reference here is to the hippopotamus or the Leviathan. “Behemoth is the principle of Darkness, or Satan, in Roman Catholic Theology, and yet Job says of him that ‘Behemoth is the chief (principle) of the ways of God’ ” (SD 2:486), and an entity spoken of, however poetically, as the chief of the ways of the divine, can hardly be a physical quadruped of earth.
Behemoth means then what it means now, any animal which is freakishly large. These have to do with various Hebrew Messanich prophecies. In the Torah and the Old testament
So, this is basically a cross between a Creationist claims video and a Cryptid Profile? Neat. I hope you make more content like this. The Behemoth and Ziz are pretty closely-related creatures; if you decide to continue, they'd be good places to start.
I'd also like to see other mythological monsters. Not just ones people still believe in like behemoth, but also ones most people find preposterous, like the unicorn. Seeing their common themes across cultures is just very interesting. One thing I did find him lacking in was acknowledging and exploring the possibility leviathan was based on real animals (the Proto-Indo-Europeans might've known about whales or crocodiles), and I would like to see that more in future videos like this.
The Leviathan stands for Ur-angst (primordial fear) or more precisely: the fear of the unknown; hence the snake because it's physical form and movement invokes fear and the ocean with it's deep water. Chaoskampf is the fight against the chaos. From chaos arises order, or from leviathan's corpse god created the world.
The Greek "Titanomachy", war between gods and titans, is begging for a miniseries adaptation - basically the Hebrew Bible's more comic-bookish bits, but more fun 😂
I'd definitely note these points out: I own Hebrew copies and the word Dragon seem to be an inaccurate substitute for what is in the Hebrew texts the word Tanin which refers to crocodiles or serpents, which are modern day organisms and not supernatural beasts. And on a side note the Hebrew texts does not suggest that Leviathan has multiple heads. it actually says "Leviathan heads", not "*Leviathan's* heads". This means that God crushed multiple Leviathans, not a single. And yes, the word Tanin is also used in Genesis (in its pluralized form "Taninim", from what I recall this substituted with "deep sea creatures" in the English texts). But in general I can definitely see Leviathan as a symbol for chaos and God's almighty power.
Uh, SK Wills, I read your comments. You didn't say this. You said his sources were garbage and he didn't know what he was talking about. Maybe you meant to point out these linguistic details, but it got buried in the insults and rhetoric. As for spinocroc's original comment, this is exactly why translations are so difficult. *something* is going to get lost in the process.
You're right, there is no basis in the Hebrew text for the monster having multiple heads. This interpretation is based on a faulty translation and while it would be cool for it to have multiple heads, there isn't evidence in the original text.
spinocroc123, this is all so wrong i'm not really sure where to begin. trey did his research; while he obviously doesn't read hebrew, he does get all of the relevant facts right. but i'm not really sure you read hebrew, either. see, psalm 74:14 reads רָאשֵׁי לִוְיָתָן. that's ראש (head) + י (the CONSTRUCT state of the plural ים) + לויתן (livyatan). when two nouns are in construct, it implies an "of" relationship. so it clearly does, in fact, say PLURAL "heads" of a SINGULAR "leviathan".
Meowmeow Meow see my above comment. plural "heads" is indeed the correct translation for psalm 74:14. there are very few translations that do not render "heads" here, because, well, "heads" is correct. both the masoretic (hebrew) and LXX (greek) have a plural.
Lord Of Onions Well in all fairness it could be, since there are a lot of bands out there with that name, but I think he was talking about the one-man black metal band from the US.
in the south of chile the native believed in a earth snake god, so i guess is more like the humans seeing snakes as powerfull beings, and each culture choose the moral inclination of that sigular creatures.
Feraligatr 21 that was References about These 3 Creatures Behemoth King Of The Land Creatures and Beasts , Leviathan Queen Or King Of The Sea Creatures and master of the seas and Ziz King Of The Birds Funny about Groudon, Kyogre and Rayquaza for the references for the biblical Monsters
The origin of most of the descriptive details is probably stories about crocodiles. It's "the twisting one", it has the shield-like armor, it has the door-like mouth, drags itself in the mud. It's close enough geographically for the Israelites to have heard of it but yet foreign enough to distort the image.
yup, it's still a story about crocodiles that got out of control. basically the fish got bigger every time uncle bob told the story X"D also the many heads fits crocodiles.
Atanar89, yup. According to Aron Ra the leviathan described in Job is a Nile crocodile. In his video he has a photo of a huge specimen (dead, I think) with a dozen men to show how such a beast could easily pass as a monster.
Pat, please don't listen to Aron Ra. that man has an agenda. I mean, we hear all the Time that Christian Apologists have an agenda and can't be Trusted, but somehow we assume Atheists are always honest and just giving the facts. Aron Ra makes his living abusing Christians and mocking them and tearing them down, so I'd not really see him as an objective source who concerns himself with facts. Hell, I spoke to him about how he blatantly lied, and all he did was try to talk down to me as a "Believer in denial" an change the subject. By the way, what I spoke to him about was his claim that the Bible itself defines Faith as belief without evidence. He has a List of Verses that supposedly prove this. None of the verses he presented say this but all of is followers lapped it up because they didn't even read the list. The Truth is, Atheists are not Neutral and objective, nor are they Logical and base their beliefs ONLY on Evidence. Aron Ra makes claims he uses to trash Christians and has an obvious bias and clear agenda.
S Scholex, drop that crap. Its an old tactic that just dodges the point. If you want to see me as someone who lumps all Atheists together, fine, but how does that validate Aron Ra or other Atheists who clearly do have an agenda?
Same thing with Mayan creation stories, to be honest...it's almost the same thing as said in the video. A giant crocodile lived in the waters of earth and was slayed by the Gods and used it's body parts to create land for the next living beings.
@@joooecool In chilean (south america) mythology there was a battle between two giant sea serpents that gave origin to the land (as in mountains and continents)
Hopefully it was just short-sighted and that statement assumed that humanity as a whole wouldn't grow intellectually. To be fair, it was a long shot to wager at the time we'd land on the moon let alone comprehend wether patterns because let's face it, people over the ages and even today were/are more often than not pretty damn ignorant. Not that it's damming, it's amazing that humanity has advanced by leaps and bounds; we only recently expanded individual social groups from a dozen friends and family to followings of hundreds or thousands, and 1903 was the first flight (so in a little over 100 years we have stealth fighters and missiles that can end all life). So in all honesty, it's pretty damn surprising that we'd come to comprehend most of what was listed in that rant. We can make lightning with tesla coils, seed clouds, etc etc etc. Come to think of it, that rant sounds an awful lot like a floury description of the earth's core and mantle, with the tectonic plates being the scales. Sure, if that's the case, he'd have to use layman's terms and make a big analogy, but when you try to extract the abstract concepts, the circulating current of molten metal and lava which generates our magnetosphere and causes the Aurora Borealis seems to fit the bill. He's essentially explaining cosmic and natural phenomena to children, so makes sense to use vocabulary of relatable everyday items and creatures like snakes as a metaphor.
Yeah it feels weird to get that followed by a list of mysteries that can be decently explained by a sixth grader nowadays. One wonders if that bit about javelins being useless still applies to FGM-148 "Javelins"...
It’s a sea dwelling creature though (?). Aside from having an understandable fear of the sea, and the unknown and danger it brings in its vastness, unseeableness, and lack of humans,...... I do think that when sailing they’ve seen some gigantic creatures. It could just be creatures were thinking of, like the ones that we know of, maybe they decently giant snake like sea creature and it scarred the ancients mentally. Became a good tool for expressing themselves symbolically and metaphorically and literally
This particular myth is said to have originated in India, as it is also spoken about all over the Philippines, as well as all over Indonesia and some other places. If I remember right, it actually started as just a giant floating head that ate the moon and was interpreted differently by Southeast Asia’s various cultures, ending up as a snake-like dragon-like creature to the Visayans and peoples of Luzon. Also fellow Pinoy here 🇵🇭
@@rebeccahughes7766 I won't touch on your lizard people idea because that's a different topic but Serpents being inherently evil is an idea only from Christianity and religions related to it, mostly because of Eve's temptation Hinduism for an example has the Naga which are symbolized for rebirth Trey gives a shout out to OSP and you should check out their video on dragons, serpents of power, similar to gods
Damn there's something so profound about the idea of certain ideas being spread between peoples and remaining strong through thousands of years. It's pretty clear to me that an idea that remains so meaningful to so many people for so long across so many different cultures, is not just arbitrary. There's something very deep about stories that do that. Personally, I can definitely see why the basic tale of "Hero or god slays a terrifying serpent that represents chaos, and out of that comes great things" has been so powerful. There's humbling metaphoric truth in that
Tom Meakin It’s not that the idea itself is fascist, it’s more that things like mythology and ancient culture have been co-opted into far right movements recently.
@@neomcdoom I do find it troubling how people are frequently attempting to associate the far right and western history, tradition and mythology. Yes, the far right (the right generally though) will be likely to hold up these things as valuable, at least more likely than the majority of the left; but that doesn't mean reasonable people can't value these things. I'm pretty much bang in the middle of the right/left divide, but I'm much more libertarian than authoritarian; but I'm kind of annoyed by how modern culture has done a good job of largely ignoring the brilliant foundations of my culture. It's good to be told that you stand on the shoulders of giants, and that your ancestors did a lot right and it's your responsibility to keep this thing going and strive to the same greatness as the best of you ancestors did
Tom Meakin Yes I agree. Although one could argue that as people of the earth we all have a sort of shared history. A black or Asian man in the United States would be able to benefit from western culture just as much a white man. I mean the Bible is a religious text from the Middle East, and it was responsible for a lot of the greatest art and literature in the western cannon.
I know the purpose of this video isn't to necessarily deconvert anyone but it helped pulled me away from a more fundamentalist way of thinking and I value that a lot. This and his nephilim video will always be some of my favorite videos on this platform.
I had a dream of the leviathan once, I was in the middle of the ocean, possibly on a boat and as lightning struck and illuminated the water, Leviathan was standing tall within the waters, it was an interesting dream.
@@joshybosley391 yes and frightening, I stood up in the boat and it was dark but from a far you seen this giant Leviathan shaped dragon in the lightning light staring back at me
Livyatan (pronounced the same as Leviathan) is just hebrew for whale. Any whale. Livyatan katlan (killer whale), livyatan zerrah (sperm whale), livyatan cakhol (blue whale), and so on. As simple as that. It is a reference, as well as a possible modern explaination (the Hebrew language was revived only by the late 19th century to early 20th century) to the mythical biblical entity. Behemoth, by the way, is also a name given to a real-life creature in hebrew: Hippopotamus. And a similar word, Behemah, is used to refer to livestock, as Beh'emott is it's plural.
One thing that came into my mind was the area in Sahara that has tons of whale bones. The area used to be ocean some..... was it over 10000 years ago. But it hasn't been desrt for that long. So I don't know. The legends probably didn't start from that specific area but that's just what I thought of first.
See the legends of the bones hanging outside the Warsaw Cathedral in Poland. They named and referred to them as "Dragon bones that are doomed to fall at a big earthquake signifying the end of the world" or something like that. Modern archaeology confirmed they were, in fact, dinosaur and whale bones.
This whole thing is so interesting because, if you think about it, it makes a lot of sense. To people who have no idea of what venom is or how it works, snakes are kind-of magical in how dangerous they are. One bite and suddenly you feel really weird and usually die. And since many snakes mate in large writhing masses of slithering bodies, it's no wonder that ancient people looked at these weird-looking masses of magic death lizards and thought of it as one body with multiple heads. Then, from there, the creature's just made gigantic to up the danger of it and the deity (personified by another force that can't be explained) is made out to be much more powerful by their ability to defeat such a thing.
Geez calm your tits girl! you give ancient people too much credit, i use to live in the fields deep in the mountains of my country and i can tell you most country people (or people who live withiut too much technology) are dumb as rocks and believe all sort of things, also make al sort of stories to try to explain what happens aroud them, until someone dares to challenge that way of thinking of course, but mostly decades or even centuries pass until that happens, and that is how this stories come to life, is not that hard to understand you know.
KSound Kaiju But according to its biology it’s a theropod. Bipedal, three toed limbs, and according to the fact that they are pretty fast they must have hollow bones so yeah, I think Sceptile is a theropod.
sense this is creationist art portraying the Garden of Eden, this is likely based on the interpretation of the bible that thinks that all animals were herbivores until after the Flood of Noah.
By what I know about my old ancestral line, I have a theory: The people of Judah lived in a mountainous and deserted area while the coastal areas belonged to the now extinct group of the Philistines, meaning they probably didn’t have a lot of connection to the sea. The Mediterranean Sea has grey whales, the second largest animals in the world. The rare encounter of the people of Judah with the grey whale (when some were in the sea), mixed with legends of dragons from other Mediterranean religions, probably mixed together for the legend of the leviathan.
It could also just have been fossilized dinosaur skeletens that they saw as Leviathan. Since God fed the bodyparts of Leviathan to the creatures of the desert. And since sleketons in are sometimes laying on the surface it could have been that they interpreted the bones in this way.
Dinosaur fossils are rare in the Middle East (It was mostly under water during that time). That is a far more likely explanation for Chinese dragons, since China is dripping in dino fossils.
Dodoraptor and other animals That's a good theory, they might've seen it's body floating by the top of the water and went "Holy shit is that just one part of it's massive whole? I'm gonna write this down." I personally think it was supposed to be parabolic, basically just saying "God loves you so much he killed this massive ass, scary ass thing to make you. You worth it girl, love yaself girl" but if that's not the case what you said is probably my go-to theory.
It's also important to note that canaanites were not only the neighbours of the israelites, they were their brothers. Hebrew is a canaanite language. So, the Hebrews were just another canaanite people and thus at some point spoke the same language and had the same myths, but that later due to historical events (most notably the Late Bronze Age collaspe) morphed into a different culture. This different culture did not change at once, for example many Gods were still revered, but some very early notable changes were the beggining of the practice of circumcision and avoiding the meat of pork. This is known mostly through archeological evidence. (the book "the Bible Unearthed" by Finkelstein and Silberman is a good discussion of the archeological evidence related to the Bible).
I know ;) Hebrews were essentially just Canaanites that simply grew distant from the others over time. So it makes sense they would have similar beliefs and myths
Yes, but Semitic languages is a great group that includes a lot of minor families, inside the Northwest semitic languages it's inside the Canaanite language grouping, alonside Ugaritic and Phoenician. That means that the three languages had a mother language (like Latin is the mother language of Spanish, Italian and French), that language is called protocaananite and was the language spoken by the canaanites before the 11th century b.c, after which the different dialects of the language began to separate themselves due to the aftermath of the Bronze Age collapse in the second half of the 12th century BC. To put it clearly canaanite languages is like saying romance language. Both Latin and Spanish are Indoeuropean language, but they have a more improtant relationship as parent and daughter languages. The same hapens with canaanite (or better said proto-canaanite and Hebrew).
Elsenoromniano the phoenicians and hebrews took their language from the egyptians. the hebrews were nomads that were enslaved by the egyptians (shasu of yhw) only later to free there self and befriend the phoenicians and conquer the middle east (amarna tablets). king david and and king Hiram I where friends . the philistines and sea people ( the bronze age killers) where killed by the hebrews , phonicians and egyptians .
No, they didn't take their language from the Egyptians, they took their writing from them, but language and writing are two different things. Second, the Jews were never enslaved by the Egyptians, Canaan was conquered by Egypt, but that well before there was any distinct Hebrew culture. The Amarna tablets are a set of tablets that show correspondence between the Kingdom of Egypt and various allies, the don't make mention to Hebrews in any way (I know fo the term Apiru, but modern scholars taht have studied the texts negate the relationship and point that Apiru seems mroe a social class, like bandits, than any ethnic group). As for being killed by Hebrews, Phoenicians and Egyptians, Ramses III did defeat the Sea People, which the Phillistines were probably part of), but then he resettled them in the Pentapolis area (that concords also with what the Bible says). The Phillistines were ultimately defeated by the Neoassyrian empire and after that they seem to ahve disappeared as a distinct group). By the way when that happened there still was any distinct Hebrew or Phoenician cultures. As I said the distinction between Phoenician and Hebrew culture began in the 11th century. Another interesting fact, today it is believed that the sea people were not the main driving force behind the Late Bronze Age collapse, rather they were jsut another contributing factor about a myriad of others like the introduction of iron working, overrelliance on trade, droughts, famines, civil unrest and a long etc.
Elsenoromniano judea was only one tribe out of 12 tribes .the egyptians enslaved the hebrews and other nomads .they called the hebrews the shasu of yhw. shasu translates to cattle nomads . ywh is the egyptian way of saying yhwh . also apiro is just a word for rebels, outlaws and raiders. who do you think where the raiders if not the shasu of yhw and there phoenicians allies . the hebrews and the phoenicians helped the people living in canaan to rebel aginst the agyptian invaders and killed the Amurru. the hebrews came in to existense in the end of the bronze age . fun fact the tribe of dan where Mercenaries Hired by Egypt as a way to keep order
As for Aztec mythology its tezcatlipoca and quetzalcoatl vs the cipactli. You got the right depictions from the borgia codex, but didn't do it right. Cipactli can be seen on page 39 (at least her head), but to see how big she is, you got to tape the pages around her to get a good idea since the borgia codex was one big document.
I have always wondered about this. If a whale washed up on a beach or if they found bones of a whale or an ancient sea creature on a beach. How would ancient man incorporate the findings in their world view? Everyone would be interested in what was found and someone had to explain it. News and moral stories were spread by use of bards or storytellers, with each one getting more and more elaborate. Maybe bones of the Leviathan story is just from an event like that. It fits with the battle between order and chaos.
That was an extremely interesting and insightful video. I grew up thinking leviathan was a literal description of a fire breathing dinosaur or crocodile. I hadn't heard of the story of Yahweh slaying the leviathan before. I knew mythologies often had similarities, but this really opened my eyes to how much the Hebrews really borrowed from their Canaanite neighbors.
Fun fact: in this context Rahab means the leviathan, Egypt, and the sea in general. Analyzing these passages using Egypt instead of leviathan, gives a slightly historic narrative. It was around the time period of Job (~700-600 BCE) that the Egyptian Empire was being broken up and "feeding" into smaller, growing empires like the Israelites and the Libyans.
@in777sight You don't think it's at all possible rather than the Bronze Age authors of the Bible making predictions of war with submarines over oil reserves 3000 years in the future, that perhaps the Israelis named their submarines and oil field after the creature in the Bible?
@in777sight Wow that's a lot to take in man, including the idea that Jesus founded Nazareth as a tent city. Amazing stuff. Where was that in the Bible? Could you provide some substantiated links to that information? Just for the record though: the myth came first and then the submarine. The chicken and egg thing doesn't work; first the submarine, then the monster story and then another submarine? You see what I'm getting at? "Historians want to deny the Bible by saying the city they found named Nazareth is not old enough to be in the time frame when Jesus lived because they are single minded." That's some proper projection there mate. What single minded notion would lead you to suggest historians, archaeologists, should accept the Bible version without any evidence? Ahh! Of course! But you have the evidence. You have the tents. I look forward to reading your peer reviewed articles on the subject.
Do you know for certain that the symbolism means what you think it does? The meaning of the profecies about the furture are being hidden from our eyes.... About the meaning of things like the number 666 mentioned in revalation is a lot of speculation. You can only know what God means in his prophecies when he explains it to you. Only if He opens your eyes. Did God reveal the meaning of all the things mentioned in the list of ......=..... to you or is it speculation?
I really love that these videos delve into the polytheistic roots of biblical text. It really helps re-mythologicize (real word??) what was forced onto me as wholistic fact and infallible text. I was raised as a Jehovah's Witness and they constantly insist that there is nothing "spiritualistic" (polytheistic/ not easily passable as christian/ anything with any roots or association with any religion not Christian) and seeing that so plainly proven false is a good feeling. Thank you for you and your research and your well of knowledge, my dude.
@@Fryguystudios oh, I KNOW that song by heart! Its one of my favorite Disney songs! But i didnt know what it had to do with this video, but I guess i get what this person was saying now.
Anon B, the book of esther is supposed to represent that even though God does not seem to be around his influence is every where. Noting the fact that God is never mentioned in the book of esther. But there is countless moments that seem so sparatic and influenced by God to happen. For example: mordicai out of nowhere and coincidentally over heard people plotting to kill the king and ended up saving his life.
Jeremy Gonzalez The reason I said Esther, is because the content appears Babylonian in origin. The two main characters Esther and Mordecai have suspiciously similar names to Ishtar and Marduk who were deities of that region. When you couple facts like that with the absence of God in the book (although some additions tried to make up for that), it has one of the weakest cases for being in the Biblical canon. There are several books in the OT which have been squabbled about. Esther is one. The Song of Songs is another, which some people have wanted removed. The Protestants actually did remove a number of OT books as you probably know.
This is very interesting - I noticed earlier the similarities with Thor and Ba'al and wondered if Loki was also related to Lotan / Litan being a shape shifter (with many faces) but then you mentioned Thor and Jormangundr (child of Loki) and then there was also St George and the Dragon
Just ruined your day Basically it's the hypothesis that humans had a semiaquatic stage in their past that gave them many of their unique traits, like hairlessness and a bipedal posture for wading. However, any and all evidence for this hypothesis has been proven false. For example: hairlessness isn't a symptom of being a semiaquatic mammal as demonstrated in otters, capybaras, polar bears, tapirs, etc. But the biggest nail in the coffin is that we have filled in any gaps in the human fossil record big enough for a semiaquatic phase. The only reason this "theory" is still around is because some people think it's being rejected because scientists are being a bunch of stuck-up snobs and not because it has zero evidence towards it and plenty to the contrary.
yo, Christian Representative here...awesome video and good scholarship; I'm a big fan of the Book of Job and love discussion on philosophical interpretation of the Leviathan. Connecting it to the cultural background of its day was the best thing to do, people cheapen and ruin the monster when saying it's a dino. professional research and tops on respecting religious people :-)
Thank you so much :) I'm happy you enjoyed my video! and I'm proud that I made it in a manner that was respectful to religious people because that was my intent ;) I agree I think the dinosaur interpretation of Leviathan is just lazy and doesn't do the creature justice.
I think a lot of the "literalist" approach to the Bible tends to be lazy and fails to do any justice at all to the complex textures of what is actually a complicated collection of documents written over many centuries in a variety of languages, cultural perspectives, and styles, on different subjects, and in different genres, missing especially the subtleties of allegories, parables, allusion, and other techniques that Biblical writers used to reach their audiences through ideas that were not meant to be taken "literally", but rather meant to reach audiences on more illustrative storytelling levels than direct lecturing alone could ever achieve. The "literalist" approach is a sadly Victorian-era limitation - with the Victorian distrust and fear of fiction and imagination - upon the vast palette of communication styles available to Bibilical writers - and by extension to God - to communicate with audiences and impart deeper truths and concepts than the mere veneer of the "literal" layer of what is being imparted through less direct but no less valid literary and communication techniques.
It isn't a sea creature. Actually read Job 41. "Will he speak soft words to you, will he make a covenant with you, will you take him for a servant forever?" So you're saying it's a talking dinosaur whom Christians made a covenant with whom they take for a servant? Surprise, Job 41:15 = Acts 9:18 "Scales fell from his eyes, he rose and was baptized." It's Apostle Paul and his thorn of Satan in his flesh.
I truly love how much research, detail, hard work, and passion you put into your content. Even though it takes a lot of effort to make these videos I can tell that you enjoy doing it and really enjoy sharing the awesome knowledge with others, that you always put together so wonderfully. Every subject you work on you always make it so interesting, exciting, and really unique! I’ll always be a subscriber. I learn so many amazing things from you... things that are rarely spoken about or even known by most people. You’re awesome! 🥰 Knowledge is not only power, but is happiness and it also feeds my imagination/world view even more. Thank you Trey. ❤️👍🏼
TREEEEEYYYYYYY. I just clicked on the video but I'm already commenting because hopefully you'll read this early. YOUR VIDEOS ARE AMAZING AND YOU'RE A GREAT CONTENT CREATOR. WE LOVE YOU!
Phantom, he's good when he talks aboutwhat he knows. The problem is, he knows nothing about the Bible other than his old Young Earth Creationist arguments. What he gave in this Video is an overcompensation for that, but he projected toomuch into it. A lot of what he said has no basis in fact.
No I am not projecting in this video in the slightested dude. That's just something you've made up in your head because you just don't like what the evidence says
If you enjoy treys content then you should check out my stuff, its not as good but i'm getting there and as its early days I would appreciate the view.
As a writer, I love learning about the roots of these mythologies and how they most likely evolved and changed over the centuries. Like, the idea a cavedude saw a snake get hit by lightning and came up with this campfire tale about the sky father and the serpents, that then became a religious tale, and then diverged into so many other tales - that's so cool. like the biggest game of telephone or the longest run of fanfiction ever! I am so thankful for all the channels that have cropped up going into the histories of these mythologies and how far back we can trace them.
Leviathan is a metaphor for God's working with creation, it's a monster but might/did exist. It's the biggest monster serpent/dinosaur in history. The Bible mentions truth, we shouldn't compare it to forgeries and myths. In the crowd of story's it looks no different but the history of the Jews is real and Christianity wouldn't exist without Christ. Jesus was witnessed to be the promised Messiah, the savior of the world.
If you enjoy treys content then you should check out my stuff, its not as good but i'm getting there and as its early days I would appreciate the view.
I find fascinating that so many cultures have huge serpents in their mythology. Even in my country, natives had a tale of two serpents called Tenten and Coi Coi (sometimes with a "vilu" added at the end). One of them hated humanity and raised the sea to drown everyone while the other protected humans raising the earth. And there are so many more like Quetzacoatl, chinese dragons, the Leviathan, Jormungandr and so on. Can't help but wonder where the stories really came from. It really makes me want to believe these huge serpents are real but, to be honest, we should have found some by now. Still, it's cool to believe they might be out there.
when you mentioned that the serpent vs storm god story as a "meme" i can imagine some ancient dude reading a mythos and getting to a part with the storm god vs. the serpent and facepalming because he has seen it so much
I've a year of Comparative Religion under my belt but didn't get to learn much of mythology, so a lot of these similarities are new to me. I welcome the filling of that knowledge gap, thank you.
If you enjoy treys content then you should check out my stuff, its not as good but i'm getting there and as its early days I would appreciate the view.
*My bad at 1:18 the hebrew characters for Leviathan are backwards, I think it was a transfer problem so sorry
Edit:
Also sorry for not listing all these sources in the video here's some of my sources so go check 'em out:
Sources:
Dictionary of Deities and Demons in the Bible by Karel van der Toorn and Pieter Willem van der Horst
(www.friendsofsabbath.org/Further_Research/e-books/Dictionary-of-Deities-and-Demons-in-the-Bible.pdf)
Yahweh and the gods and goddesses of Canaan by John Day
God's conflict with the dragon and the sea by John Day
From Creation to Babel: Studies in Genesis 1-11 by John Day
Indo-European Poetry and Myth by Martin Litchfield West
The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, Volume 4 By Geoffrey W. Bromiley
The Old Testament: A Historical and Literary Introduction to Hebrew Scriptures by Michael D. Coogan
Creation And Chaos in the Primeval Era And the Eschaton
Book by Hermann Gunkel
TREY the Explainer I love the video I’d love to share my thoughts with you, in your video you said regardless of country or religion everyone hates snakes but in southern america the snake is a symbol of luck and the Aztecs top god was a serpent
TREY the Explainer I like the Profile on Andrewsarchus
Can you do Gigantopethicus or maybe Megatherium
TREY the Explainer I’ve been binging your videos since I found your channel keep up the good work
Leviathan is a metaphor for Satan, involving allot of the same descriptions, and includes breathing fire as one of it's ability's.
And that is why it talk about how it is king over all who are proud; and how it talks about how God has power over it.
I love how you throw in your own MS Paint version of the snake around the Earth with all the awesome ancient artwork.
It’s possible that the Milky Way could be what that image is depicting, there’s a point in it that looks like a snake head eating its tail.
I love that the only thing on that earth that looks like anything on our earth is Italy
@@chrisruiz6610 It is common depiction of the Earth by old cartographs, who didn't know anything but Mediterranean
@@gingeeta_creecha3401 well yes but it could be just a really good coincidence
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So technically I could be called a leviathan too, as it is also known as “the circular one”
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Honestly, Leviathan being one of many interpretations of a proto-myth going all the way back to the PIE culture is *way* cooler than it just being a dinosaur or something.
Its a metaphor
I know, it gives me chills to think that tens of thousands years ago, someone told the proto-story and it's still going strong. So much more amazing than nonsense about the Dino time line.
The Bible mentions truth, we shouldn't compare it to forgeries and myths. In the crowd of story's it looks no different but the history of the Jews is real and Christianity wouldn't exist without Christ. Jesus was witnessed to be the promised Messiah, the savior of the world.
@@specilegg Just because a document says it's true doesn't mean it is. The earliest known manuscripts of the bible were written hundreds of years after the events they claim to document; plenty of time for mythical elements to be added even if they are somewhat based on stuff that actually happened. Studying these ancient texts can yield fascinating insights into the culture they came from, but only if you're willing to set aside unquestioned religious dogma and approach them just like you would a Norse saga or Chinese legend.
I sincerely hope you find the strength to break free of your mental shackles. There's a vast ocean of knowledge out there to explore, but only if you're curious enough to look. (:
@@n.e.v.e.r the dates are fabricated by paid "biblical scholars" that are really propaganda artists. The Bible had to be written before 70 Ad when the temple had not been destroyed and Jesus talked about it's destruction. In the gospel of John it mentions that the disciple that leaned on Jesus's breast at the last supper was the one who wrote the gospel. The Bible is in eye witness Jesus.
1:15 this kind of description is very common in ancient texts. When a text is being re written over thousands of years and entire books or chapters being thrown away every now and then, you end up with characters and events that the authors casually mention as if you are supposed to know, but you don’t know because by the time you are reading the text the previous chapters have been lost.
There is also the fact that the audience of the day would have already been familiar with the story. It would make sense to the authors of the time to not need to go into detail about everything. The way I see it we need to not look at this to the lens of our modern understanding of how the world works. What we're reading in these myths is the general consensus of how our ancestors thought the world worked. It makes sense you're going to find overlap.
Reminds me how in the book of Numbers they quote a book called 'the book of the wars of The Lord' when describing the borders of a place they travelled through, and its done so casually. And later after a battle The Lord commands Moses to write of the battle in 'the book', which is not specified, some scholars think that God was reffering to this book of the wars of The Lord.
Theres other books that ocasionally get mentioned, quoted or refferenced and we dont come back to them, which makes sense if the writers knew that their audience was already familiar with it, meanwhile nowadays its lost so we are left to wonder.
@@levlowell Like how we gloss over the death of Uncle Ben or the Waynes now.
Or you have lost the cultural context of the passage in which it makes sense.
Not only due to copying errors, but also cultural references, try watching a marvel movie with all the references cut out.
Lucifer: “who are you?”
Leviathan: “I’m you, but bigger and twisty”
Isabella Aguiar l-/ hmmm I say no
Lucifer isn't even the devil nor an angel.
@in777sight Lucifer was used for jesus and a babylonian king.
@Lucidツ Lucifer was used for a babylonian king and jesus in the Latin.
@Lucidツ "Woe unto your falsehoods"?
Are you from the damn 5th century?
I'm fascinated at how ancient humans were so terrified of snakes. It's like an ancestral phobia that stretches to the very origins of humanity. No wonder Lucifer transforms into a serpent in Genesis
It's called Snake Detection Theory. Almost every primates (including human) have this certain fear of snake.
There is a goddess in Hinduism, the snake goddess, who is worshipped in order to keep her happy and thus, keep the snakes at bay
Snakes take a perfectly pleasant day and out of no-where your family member or you are dead within minutes. It's the sneaky, limb-less, soul-less, silent sudden life-destroyer of the animal kingdom and that pure danger translates across cultures and species through time and generations. It's essentially what Satan does to the entire human race with a single conversation in Genesis.
@@GlennDavey unless the snake isn't venomous, if that's the case, you either get food, or a slithering pet
Also what other creature can potentially eat itself? Freaky animal, snakes. Hey, look up Orangutans learning to fear snakes on YT
I imagine a gigant sea snake being defeated by all the gods of ancient cultures and then every god taking credit for it ignoring the rest of the other pantheons
Knowing the nature of many gods around the world (including the christian god) This is canon to me now
You can’t kill Leviathan. There would be no Earth.
Gods are bitches that way
@@karll977 but it's already dead and its corpse is doing the job just fine
@@thefisherking78 Out of context. That sounds odd
I had to stop and stare at that textbook image of carnivorous dinosaurs happily eating plants while hanging out with humans. Im in awe
I remember growing up and going to a christian private school where they would show us these all the time. I believe the theory (mind you this was more than a decade ago for me so take this with a grain of salt) was they taught us this to explain that dinosaurs were vegetarians before the flood. This was a theory by Ken Ham the crazy Christian fundamentalist. I cant remember if the logic was because “well what did the dinosaurs eat on the ark?” or if it was something from Genesis about how Adam and Eve were vegetarians for long time before they ate the fruit of knowledge and evil.
yes! literally the dumbest shit ever! their fuckin sharp-ass teeth wouldn't even be able to break down the plant matter
@@paulthehalflingit's actually that all animals were herbivorous before the "fall of man." The "theory" is originally supposed to explain why predatory traits would exist if the original plan god had was for everything to be deathless and perfect. The idea proposed is that carnivore teeth are perfectly adapted to eat melons and stuff
I wonder if the great Leviathan was just flooded rivers, which could explain why Rahab means Egypt, the Nile would flood regularly.
It means overflow, it leaves a trail, snake-like with multiple heads like a flooded river going down its many streams and offshoots. Sudden flash floods on rivers were exceptionally dangerous in history but we needed to be near the rivers.
That's the thing, people take everything literally. Take the hieroglyphs, how do we know everything drawn isn't an overly dramatic representation of a society out their face on LSD?
@@Ashleekaa joe rogan would like to have a word with you
Another thing with this is that rivers flooding were generally seen as good (with influence of civilizations like mesopotamia and ancient egypt), since they provided better farmland. Adding to this, the name of the place the israelites lived in egypt during the old testament was "Goshen" meaning "flooded land".
@in777sight Every generation has had their theory on various prophecies and doomsdays.
And yet the world goes on.
Also if Ethiopia agrees to fill their reservoir over 7-10 years instead of just 3, Egypt won't be nearly as impacted by it and probably won't go to war.
Interesting
Correction:
"Leviathan" in the original Hebrew is actually translated as = "The Big Nope Rope"
Don't give up your day job for a career in Hebrew translation.
false gods
Danger noodle
@@loganasproudis4459False gods can't exist. Prove me wrong.
No its not! Strongs H 3882 - sea dragon/monster.
I love that Leviathan, Behemoth, Marduk, and Tiamat are all awesome metal bands.
The greatest contribution to rock and roll was thought to be the invention of the electric guitar, but actually it was Gideons Bibles in hotel rooms
Because they're satanic....
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Don't forget Mastodon's killer record named Leviathan
Yet no love for Chemosh the Abomination of Moab
Job "I'm a big deal."
God "But can you beat this thing I made up that only I can beat? I didn't think so."
Why?......WHY?!!!😂
@@thewatcher9546 Ask the God not him smh.
Job did not say he was a big deal. God let Satan kill his wife, kids, and livestock. He destroyed his home, let him get full body herpes, and then scolded him for losing faith after he collapsed in a literal pile of shit.
@@malachisguides
But it’s fine, I mean, God gave him a new wife and new kids, didn’t he? Who cares about those first ones! Silly humans with their interpersonal attachment and shit. Wives and children are resources after all.
@@rainpooper7088 I love you and your name 😆
I just realized that the Old Testament could actually be a legit Anime especially with Yahweh's point of view.
Is like a generational thing or who's the main character?
dude, im gonna up this till very high
I mean it's pretty much just the Chaos Saga of Sonic X.
Yahweh is the main character
The Nephilim story arc would be great
so many films about the Crucification of Jesus Christ........ and other stuff in the Bible.
i wanna see a Cinematic interpretation of God's Battle with Leviathan now
truly the next biggest Biblical Epic since the 10 Commandments
ACTUALLY 16:24 ONE OF EACH PLEASE
Ze, Trey made up this battle. Its not actually in the Bible. He misunderstood what the Bible said.
SK Wills well he said it was a demythogised version of how the universe was created
Man Of Creatons, peolel in the comment sectin have already started running with it. And no, he said Yahweh fought a Sea Serpnt. The Truth is, he didn't base this on actual fact, but supposition.
Trey can't show you a single story about God creating the world by fighting a Sea Serpent. Calling i a Demythologised version doesn't matter if ts a lie to begin with.
Zé Ninguém God was a ship captain that tried fighting a whale.
the only movie that i know from the old bible is Noah
IT’S THE ALASKAN BULLWORM!!!
Ok, I’ll see myself out.
No please stay, we need your humour 😂😂😂
Michael Thompson
It was either that, or a Dune reference, but only a select few would get it, sadly 🤣 but...
“The Spice must flow”...
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Only YHWH is worthy to ride the Shai Hulud.
Its from sponge bob also
“Detecting multiple, leviathan class, life forms in the region. Are you certain, whatever your doing is worth it?”
Yeah! Subnautica!
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"there appears to be a popular mythic trope or meme that exists in many religions and mythologies"
you mean like, the virgin chaos serpent vs the chad storm god?
Yahweh is totally a Chad, making Satan the first incel
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Satan even sulks alone in a basement trying to be edgy.
Pretty sure Yah is the women hating incel
@@youtubearchive3668 gay and dumb comment
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Started off with an examination of Leviathan and ended with the religion of the Indo-Europeans. Quite the rabbit hole indeed but those are the best videos. Very informative video!
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The Bible be like :
"Yeah, here's a cool creature that could use some descriptions and inspire many tales, but let's focus on that farmer questioning God."
@Cactus Juice I get what you mean, I hate it when people do those overly detailed, almost scientific description and analysis of mythical creatures. It's even more frequent in Fantasy sadly. People can't just accept the magic of a tale.
But I can't really say I can defend the Leviathan. It's literally a big name drop that comes out of nowhere in the Bible, and looks too much like a paganic symbol that contrast with the overall spiritual theme of the texts. It would be like reading Pride And Prejudice and then for some reason there's a dragon that pops up.
Why even focus on Joe the Farmer questioning God as he asks him if he could fish Leviathan when you could do a tale with Leviathan?
@@alexrexaros9837 It's mostly about the fact that the bible is a collection of stories and myths written down. Stories that used to be known by pretty much everyone at the time. Cherry picked stories as well, showing off how great and divine God actually is. Why would a collection of stories, involving the divine and how great they are, have a story about something like the Leviathan and how much destruction and chaos it did?
There was probably a story involving the Leviathan, but they chose not to include it.
To be fair, thats what happens when a myth gets to prevalent and became a commonfolk knowledge, you dont re-explain something that everyone who can read have already know at the time. Leviathan might be very famous and mainstream cultural reference at the time, so to put it ridiculously simple, the author was using a meme to show god's flexing game
I actually believe that it keeping it's narrative focused on "normalish things" rather than the fantastic is probably why it has been successful
@@alexrexaros9837 "Magic" itself was a science in many ancient cultures and religions. It wasn't just random supernatural stuff to them, it was a system of logic.
I love how in Job, God reprimands him for questioning him and says he can’t fathom his reasons, but the whole thing started off as basically a bet between God and the devil.
not really... that is the situation but goal was to bring Job closer to his Creator. Satan was just a pawn in a redemption game where God can foresee the outcome already. Pride made the adversary participate in a futile game. It breaks down to, Job was bitching in his mind just not with his mouth... God can read minds.
Craig Richard one thing I always questioned Christianity is .. why do you respect a god that allows something evil to manipulate you.. and then you get doomed to hell forever????
Lisa King - That’s a load of BS. Hardly anything in Genesis comports with reality, nor is it coherent within its own narrative. It’s just an adapted ancient pagan myth historicized by a subgroup of Canaanites who became known as Hebrews.
In the story, El lied and told them they would die if they ate from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. After the serpent told them both the truth, they took fruit from the tree. El punished them by making man work hard to toil the soil and women to have pain during childbirth. He banished them from the Garden of Eden to prevent them from eating from the Tree of Life. That’s it, there was never a mention of original sin initially and the serpent was never meant to be Satan; that is a later interpretation.
Does it make any sense to give life to creatures with the naïveté and curiosity of a child and then condemn them for eternity for metaphorically ‘touching the hot stove’??
Lisa, if you are going to argue on behalf of Biblical scripture you should at least read it thoroughly first, and understand the context beyond the spoon-fed superficial sermons of the Sunday morning pews..
@@KithandKings it was not the tree of life, it was the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Satan tempted eve to steal that fruit from the LORD God. All they had to do was ask, but instead of letting the LORD God give it to them and explain...they stold it and fear entered into them as a result causing them shame. The disobedience and even the theft is forgivable, but neither Adam nor Eve wanted to take responsibility for their actions. Adam blamed Eve, Eve blamed Satan, then Satan said nothing....just as Jesus did at His trial. This is the moment when Satan gained power over man, God put him on a leash.....this is reality. Satan has no power over man unless man is not willing to take responsibility for his own actions....a.k.a the accuser.....the teee of life remains uncorrupted and protected by cherubims and a flaming sword....that sword is the Word of God, and it can give life and take it away....use it wisely.
@@amenra13 How do you know leviathan doesn't exist!? Have you explored the depths of the sea to tells us 💯% it doesn't exist?
It was a pleasure being a part of this, Trey.
Amazing material as always. Here's to many more videos and collabs! : P
Thanks Rodrigo! You're awesome :D and definitely!
I love the name Leviathan it sounds so badass and extremely powerful
Age of Leviathan i wanna name my kid that
@@obesecatexpert If u like it go for it i like it like i said on my comment 😄
"No. This is my God! Leviathan! Lord of the Labyrinth!!"
Google it. It's a great scene. The special effects are quite dated but it's still pretty intense.
Not that powerful th-cam.com/video/-GEM2xnkX_c/w-d-xo.html
Hahaha right!? How has no car maker made a model of car named that yet
I wanted to make a story about the Chaos Snake where in it turns out all of the sea dragons of all of the worlds mythologies who have fought countless regional storm gods is actually the same dragon, but nobody has ever seen the whole dragon. It travels around collecting the L's of every encounter it has with all of the storm gods.
What a guy. Beaten by every storm god, but still strives to meet his goal. We should all take a lesson from the primordial sea serpent
A giant sea creature named Rahab? An obsessed sailor named Ahab hunting a giant sea creature? Coincidence?
This guy gets it. I never heard of Rahab before so I wonder how many people in Melville's time immediately recognize his allusion. I knew Ahab was a minor biblical character as well so maybe that made the correlation a little less obvious? I dunno but I love any book that is enough source material for an entire Mastodon concept album.
No. The adjective we use today, behemoth-later came to mean a huge prophetic Ox or even elephant's and at the discovery of whales, also was used to describe them at the height of whale hunting in the 1800s. The expression was coined from religious and historical writings
Concidering the fact people in the past had more contact to religious texts it is no that hard to assume , they would have noticed the pun . The first atheists have been rised with religion and found it stupid ... so they would have liked the pun even more :D
Then there's the Leviathan whale which is a bigger, more predatory version of the sperm whale.
Glad I'm not the only one who instantly made that connection. Maybe Herman Melville got inspiration for Ahab via Rahab? I wouldn't be surprised: if I'm not mistaken he was a very religious man.
Also I visited the house of one of his descendants during yet another Vineyard trip. It was lovely and filled with whales. :)
1:20 as a Hebrew speaker I can say that you had it backwards.
Hebrew (and other Semitic languages like Arabic) is written from right to left.
Dodoraptor and other animals "And other semitic languages like Arabic"
All living Isis members are screeching and rage and all the dead ones are rolling in their graves. And for once the expression "___ is rolling in their grave" is used positively.
Vnutri I don'see your point ?
Digicraftmon the Crystal Gem תוכנת העריכה לא מזהה עברית כשפה שכתובה מימין לשמאל, צריך לשנות את זה בהגדרות של התוכנה.
He commented saying he realized he made a mistake
Dodoraptor and other animals bro you watch syntax
My jaw dropped when I actually read Job for the first time in my 20's and saw that the "leviathan" """"""""""dinosaur"""""""""""", was not only *a goddamn FIRE BREATHING DRAGON* , but, as if that wasn't insane enough, a *water-dwelling goddamn FIRE BREATHING DRAGON.*
Fantastic analysis. Tremendous level of knowledge. But the bulls-eye was not hit, unfortunately. The world wide dragon legends come from a close contact by a comet, the comet Venus. How is that possible? Thunderbolts Project talks of an Electric Universe, Worlds in Collision, and the Saturn Myth. An improbable answer to a puzzling history.
I'm right there with you on this Religious Nonsense~!!!
@@naplesbeachfan do you have some medication you should be taking?
It always amuse me how there was a person who wrote there's a fire breathing water-dwelling monster. As if fire would be any useful for hunting or battling anything in the bottom of the ocean lol.
@MegaChickenfish not to mention, it also has multiple heads, making it a hydra
“Biblical cannon” is my favorite phrase ever now.
What you wrote sounds like a gun that fires scriptures
@@bro4539 yeah my bad I guess I spelled it wrong but either way I still like the phrase
@@TupocalypseShakur C'mon, that's way cooler.
That's the original meaning of the word.
I'm waiting for the Biblical torpedoes
Hey Trey just as a heads up Im Israeli and so I speak and write Hebrew. The text you wrote for the word Leviathan in Hebrew is backwards.
ןתיול not לויתן its spelled
I know its confusing in Hebrew we write from right to left.
Anyway great video man :D
My bad, I just copied and pasted the text from one of my mythology books so I guess it might have been messed up over the transfer
thanks for the correction ;)
Digicraftmon the Crystal Gem לִוְיָתָן
TheTravelingClatt hahahaha love ya Rubí
Imposter
Another thing common with arabs. Desert cultures
Satan: I am God's greatest Adversary
Leviathan: Oh you sweet summer child, I was there from the beginning.
XD
They are one in the same, Satan is the serpent
@@GnosticTheist , that doesn't mean they're the same. It doesn't mean they're not the same, either. No way to tell... Yet.
Jesus saves
@@christianpathfinder6864
Maybe, or maybe not... There's really no way to know this sort of thing. Unless we find an ancient Coles notes on leviathan & Satan from some 10,000 years ago...
Adam
@@timothyfarrand8407
While I agree with your answer to the prior commenter... There's no way to know if those 2 characters originally were intended to describe 1 creature/character or not.
There's also no way to know for certain whether or not there was ever a real person that the character of Jesus is based on. There's some reason to believe that the Jesus character was portrayed as a savior/god.
However, there's no reason or evidence whatsoever, to believe or think that Jesus (a real person &/or god) actually exists now, in reality, in any way, shape or form.
There's even less reasons or evidence, to believe or think, that this "Jesus" (a real human &/or god) can actually do anything, much less save anything from anything.
Besides a single set of hands struggling to help a another person, does infinitely more good, then infinite sets of hands clasped together in prayer! Do something useful to help your fellow human, don't just patronize them with useless gestures/words/thoughts!
Adam
P.S. I'm not saying that you don't do anything to help anyone ever... I am just addressing your Jesus saves comment & commenting on the general fact that prayer is not a legit help with anything for any reason.
Yup. This myth is old. Real old. Leviathan can be a metaphor for winding rivers and floods combined with humans innate fear of serpents.
I realize this video is on the older side but I do hope your channel explores the Proto-Indo-European Culture more! Its truly fascinating to talk to people of various cultures and discover how many of our myths and words we have in common which may stem from a shared ancient culture!
Its a metaphor for humans
The Bible mentions truth, we shouldn't compare it to forgeries and myths. In the crowd of story's it looks no different but the history of the Jews is real and Christianity wouldn't exist without Christ. Jesus was witnessed to be the promised Messiah, the savior of the world.
@@specilegg Job 41:24 KJV
24His heart is as firm as a stone; yea, as hard as a piece of the nether millstone.
25 *When he raiseth up himself, the mighty are afraid: by reason of breakings they purify themselves*
I wonder if line 25 could be like a parallel/foreshadow for Christ
No,it is not a metaphor. Because the Bible says Leviathan is the king of pride, a collosal and mighty beast like a dragon. Just think with me, if many cultures that did not have contact with each other had talked about the exact same thing, maybe in the time of their living they actually somehow had ocular experience with such a beast? Maybe it is a "myth" now because we don't have proof, but it doesn't take away the possibility that these cultures somehow saw something we cannot see anymore.
@@specilegg Man, quit spamming your same ignorant paragraph 😂
8:15 award for least expected and most necessary yet unnecessary JoJo's reference in a random TH-cam video NOT about JoJo.
About which Jojo, Jojo Siwa?
Izzy 46, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
I needed someone pointing the Jojo reference
I read Steel Ball Run and ran to the comments immediately lmao
Part 7 of jjba
WHERE IS THE VIDEO CONCERNING BEHEMOTH?!?!?! I NEED IT!! I NEED IT YESTERDAY!!
Great work!! Definitely love it!!
Behemoth (Hebrew) Bĕhēmōth, singular bĕhēmāh [from bāham to be dumb, mute] A beast, a nonspeaking living being; used in Job 40:15-23. Scholars are of the opinion that the reference here is to the hippopotamus or the Leviathan. “Behemoth is the principle of Darkness, or Satan, in Roman Catholic Theology, and yet Job says of him that ‘Behemoth is the chief (principle) of the ways of God’ ” (SD 2:486), and an entity spoken of, however poetically, as the chief of the ways of the divine, can hardly be a physical quadruped of earth.
Behemoth means then what it means now, any animal which is freakishly large.
These have to do with various Hebrew Messanich prophecies.
In the Torah and the Old testament
@@LABCHiMP
Well that's confusing.
So, this is basically a cross between a Creationist claims video and a Cryptid Profile? Neat.
I hope you make more content like this. The Behemoth and Ziz are pretty closely-related creatures; if you decide to continue, they'd be good places to start.
heh. worm.
He does plan to do one for Behemoth, but Ziz is apparently not going to get one due to its lack of prominence.
I did not expect Endbringer-related comments that quickly...
I'd also like to see other mythological monsters. Not just ones people still believe in like behemoth, but also ones most people find preposterous, like the unicorn. Seeing their common themes across cultures is just very interesting.
One thing I did find him lacking in was acknowledging and exploring the possibility leviathan was based on real animals (the Proto-Indo-Europeans might've known about whales or crocodiles), and I would like to see that more in future videos like this.
lasschesteven iirc unicorns could easily refer to Rhinoceros.
Chaoskamp is just a product of two strong human emotions, the love for the hero vs evil history, and the hate of snakes
"Hello Aliens, we are the council of humanity, here to present you our core values. Compassion, Love, Exploration and we fucking hate snakes"
The Leviathan stands for Ur-angst (primordial fear) or more precisely: the fear of the unknown; hence the snake because it's physical form and movement invokes fear and the ocean with it's deep water. Chaoskampf is the fight against the chaos. From chaos arises order, or from leviathan's corpse god created the world.
The Greek "Titanomachy", war between gods and titans, is begging for a miniseries adaptation - basically the Hebrew Bible's more comic-bookish bits, but more fun 😂
Lotan: *Can we copystrike Leviathan?*
XD
TIAMAT ENTERS THE ARENA
gotta contact Wizards of the Coast first. I think they own the rights to Leviathan and all it's magic.
LIKE RIGHT NOW?!?!
Imagine believers copystriking other beliefs
Marvels Thor 6: Return of Jörmungandr
I'd definitely note these points out: I own Hebrew copies and the word Dragon seem to be an inaccurate substitute for what is in the Hebrew texts the word Tanin which refers to crocodiles or serpents, which are modern day organisms and not supernatural beasts. And on a side note the Hebrew texts does not suggest that Leviathan has multiple heads. it actually says "Leviathan heads", not "*Leviathan's* heads". This means that God crushed multiple Leviathans, not a single. And yes, the word Tanin is also used in Genesis (in its pluralized form "Taninim", from what I recall this substituted with "deep sea creatures" in the English texts).
But in general I can definitely see Leviathan as a symbol for chaos and God's almighty power.
I said all of this and was told I just can't accept there is mythology in the Bible.
Uh, SK Wills, I read your comments. You didn't say this. You said his sources were garbage and he didn't know what he was talking about. Maybe you meant to point out these linguistic details, but it got buried in the insults and rhetoric.
As for spinocroc's original comment, this is exactly why translations are so difficult. *something* is going to get lost in the process.
You're right, there is no basis in the Hebrew text for the monster having multiple heads. This interpretation is based on a faulty translation and while it would be cool for it to have multiple heads, there isn't evidence in the original text.
spinocroc123, this is all so wrong i'm not really sure where to begin. trey did his research; while he obviously doesn't read hebrew, he does get all of the relevant facts right.
but i'm not really sure you read hebrew, either. see, psalm 74:14 reads רָאשֵׁי לִוְיָתָן. that's ראש (head) + י (the CONSTRUCT state of the plural ים) + לויתן (livyatan). when two nouns are in construct, it implies an "of" relationship. so it clearly does, in fact, say PLURAL "heads" of a SINGULAR "leviathan".
Meowmeow Meow see my above comment. plural "heads" is indeed the correct translation for psalm 74:14. there are very few translations that do not render "heads" here, because, well, "heads" is correct. both the masoretic (hebrew) and LXX (greek) have a plural.
Leviathan and Behemoth
Both great bands.
Ludwig van Beethoven They will be thrilled to know Ludwig von B. is a fan!
Love the Idiot Sun.
Thank you for being a man of culture, Beethoven.
Lord Of Onions Well in all fairness it could be, since there are a lot of bands out there with that name, but I think he was talking about the one-man black metal band from the US.
I’d even go so far as to call them legendary
"Humans just seem to hate snakes, regardless of the culture"
Snakes: hisss am sad :((
"I'm ssssssssssssad"
it's ok snakes, I still love you.
*disagrees in mesoamerican*
@@SarkanaNightSong Big-ass winged snake bringer of the **K N O W L E D GE**
Not true. This is mostly western thought.
in the south of chile the native believed in a earth snake god, so i guess is more like the humans seeing snakes as powerfull beings, and each culture choose the moral inclination of that sigular creatures.
Did you know ? legendary pokémon Groudon , Kyogre and Rayquaza are based on Behemoth, Leviathan and Ziz respectivly.
I've always though that Rayquaza is based on The Quetzalcoatl
Feraligatr 21 that was References about These 3 Creatures Behemoth King Of The Land Creatures and Beasts
, Leviathan Queen Or King Of The Sea Creatures and master of the seas and Ziz King Of The Birds
Funny about Groudon, Kyogre and Rayquaza for the references for the biblical Monsters
Rayquaza is more of a serpent than Kyogre, though.
I don't think there is any connection. The idea is obvious anyways.
The who is ziz?!
Taxtro Kyogre Is the water the Leviathan pokémon and Rayquaza Is the Dragon the Pokémon Ziz reference
The origin of most of the descriptive details is probably stories about crocodiles. It's "the twisting one", it has the shield-like armor, it has the door-like mouth, drags itself in the mud. It's close enough geographically for the Israelites to have heard of it but yet foreign enough to distort the image.
yup, it's still a story about crocodiles that got out of control. basically the fish got bigger every time uncle bob told the story X"D
also the many heads fits crocodiles.
Atanar89, yup. According to Aron Ra the leviathan described in Job is a Nile crocodile. In his video he has a photo of a huge specimen (dead, I think) with a dozen men to show how such a beast could easily pass as a monster.
Pat, please don't listen to Aron Ra. that man has an agenda. I mean, we hear all the Time that Christian Apologists have an agenda and can't be Trusted, but somehow we assume Atheists are always honest and just giving the facts. Aron Ra makes his living abusing Christians and mocking them and tearing them down, so I'd not really see him as an objective source who concerns himself with facts.
Hell, I spoke to him about how he blatantly lied, and all he did was try to talk down to me as a "Believer in denial" an change the subject.
By the way, what I spoke to him about was his claim that the Bible itself defines Faith as belief without evidence. He has a List of Verses that supposedly prove this. None of the verses he presented say this but all of is followers lapped it up because they didn't even read the list.
The Truth is, Atheists are not Neutral and objective, nor are they Logical and base their beliefs ONLY on Evidence.
Aron Ra makes claims he uses to trash Christians and has an obvious bias and clear agenda.
SK Wills sounds like you have an agenda against atheists and want to lump them all together as one homogeneous group
S Scholex, drop that crap. Its an old tactic that just dodges the point. If you want to see me as someone who lumps all Atheists together, fine, but how does that validate Aron Ra or other Atheists who clearly do have an agenda?
There's even a giant serpent involved in Australian Aboriginal creation stories.
Justin in da house bitches
Was that the Rainbow Serpent?
Same thing with Mayan creation stories, to be honest...it's almost the same thing as said in the video. A giant crocodile lived in the waters of earth and was slayed by the Gods and used it's body parts to create land for the next living beings.
@@doctorsnakeeater1997 aborigine Lake serpent bed off virgin woman are the blood from virgins forgot how to spell it
@@joooecool In chilean (south america) mythology there was a battle between two giant sea serpents that gave origin to the land (as in mountains and continents)
Sorting the comments by most recent in this kind of videos is always very entertaining
"Only God can know the answer to these mysteries"
Bruh moment
Hopefully it was just short-sighted and that statement assumed that humanity as a whole wouldn't grow intellectually. To be fair, it was a long shot to wager at the time we'd land on the moon let alone comprehend wether patterns because let's face it, people over the ages and even today were/are more often than not pretty damn ignorant. Not that it's damming, it's amazing that humanity has advanced by leaps and bounds; we only recently expanded individual social groups from a dozen friends and family to followings of hundreds or thousands, and 1903 was the first flight (so in a little over 100 years we have stealth fighters and missiles that can end all life). So in all honesty, it's pretty damn surprising that we'd come to comprehend most of what was listed in that rant. We can make lightning with tesla coils, seed clouds, etc etc etc. Come to think of it, that rant sounds an awful lot like a floury description of the earth's core and mantle, with the tectonic plates being the scales. Sure, if that's the case, he'd have to use layman's terms and make a big analogy, but when you try to extract the abstract concepts, the circulating current of molten metal and lava which generates our magnetosphere and causes the Aurora Borealis seems to fit the bill. He's essentially explaining cosmic and natural phenomena to children, so makes sense to use vocabulary of relatable everyday items and creatures like snakes as a metaphor.
Yeah it feels weird to get that followed by a list of mysteries that can be decently explained by a sixth grader nowadays.
One wonders if that bit about javelins being useless still applies to FGM-148 "Javelins"...
So does god hate us now for knowing how these stuff work?
God goes not exist. There is no invisible sky man listening to your prayers.
just because you see words on a page doesnt mean you understand shakespeare
You know what I think......
They were so afraid of snakes
They wrote horror fiction about them
One word, India
Can’t be. They often killed snakes lol
It’s a sea dwelling creature though (?). Aside from having an understandable fear of the sea, and the unknown and danger it brings in its vastness, unseeableness, and lack of humans,...... I do think that when sailing they’ve seen some gigantic creatures. It could just be creatures were thinking of, like the ones that we know of, maybe they decently giant snake like sea creature and it scarred the ancients mentally. Became a good tool for expressing themselves symbolically and metaphorically and literally
In Visayan mythology, there's a sea serpent that devours moons. In Tagalog myths, there's also another serpent that is slayed by god (Bathala)
Wow! Cool naman!
Bakunawa
This particular myth is said to have originated in India, as it is also spoken about all over the Philippines, as well as all over Indonesia and some other places. If I remember right, it actually started as just a giant floating head that ate the moon and was interpreted differently by Southeast Asia’s various cultures, ending up as a snake-like dragon-like creature to the Visayans and peoples of Luzon.
Also fellow Pinoy here 🇵🇭
Even Ragnar Lothbrok, semi-mythical, slayed a serpent at the very start of his journey. Seems like something deeply embedded in the human psyche.
The Bakunawa has no killer though. But Bulan has a homosexual husband
I like to think god and leviathan had a crazy anime fight. Then one of gods traveling m8s gets killed. Making god unlock his new form
Lol I love Skeletor, gg
All these religions just have a edgy sea serpant fan Oc
Subnautica fandom religion has a lot of theese beasts.
Dude the world is run by reptilians where do you think it comes from? The serpent/lizard creature introducing "evil" to all cultures might be a hint.
@@rebeccahughes7766 no it’s an edgy sea serpent fan OC
@@rebeccahughes7766 I won't touch on your lizard people idea because that's a different topic but
Serpents being inherently evil is an idea only from Christianity and religions related to it, mostly because of Eve's temptation
Hinduism for an example has the Naga which are symbolized for rebirth
Trey gives a shout out to OSP and you should check out their video on dragons, serpents of power, similar to gods
@@rebeccahughes7766 Do you actually believe reptilians are real
BREAKING NEWS: Trey the explainer announces Despacito 2
"It's gonna be lit and will have owls" says Trey
MλFDOMiNUS What about🅱️🅰️sking sh🅰️rks
Jesus Christ H
I’m gonna have to ask this comment and the replies following to please exit the premise. The door is to your left
Is this loss?
It is red, you know what else is red? *Yep. You guessed it, our soviet mother land*
Damn there's something so profound about the idea of certain ideas being spread between peoples and remaining strong through thousands of years. It's pretty clear to me that an idea that remains so meaningful to so many people for so long across so many different cultures, is not just arbitrary. There's something very deep about stories that do that. Personally, I can definitely see why the basic tale of "Hero or god slays a terrifying serpent that represents chaos, and out of that comes great things" has been so powerful. There's humbling metaphoric truth in that
Tom Meakin
Yes I agree. Let’s not let that turn us into fascist weirdos now!
@@neomcdoom I think you may be taking this further than i am.... Why would that idea lead people to fascism lol?
Tom Meakin
It’s not that the idea itself is fascist, it’s more that things like mythology and ancient culture have been co-opted into far right movements recently.
@@neomcdoom I do find it troubling how people are frequently attempting to associate the far right and western history, tradition and mythology. Yes, the far right (the right generally though) will be likely to hold up these things as valuable, at least more likely than the majority of the left; but that doesn't mean reasonable people can't value these things. I'm pretty much bang in the middle of the right/left divide, but I'm much more libertarian than authoritarian; but I'm kind of annoyed by how modern culture has done a good job of largely ignoring the brilliant foundations of my culture. It's good to be told that you stand on the shoulders of giants, and that your ancestors did a lot right and it's your responsibility to keep this thing going and strive to the same greatness as the best of you ancestors did
Tom Meakin
Yes I agree. Although one could argue that as people of the earth we all have a sort of shared history. A black or Asian man in the United States would be able to benefit from western culture just as much a white man. I mean the Bible is a religious text from the Middle East, and it was responsible for a lot of the greatest art and literature in the western cannon.
I know the purpose of this video isn't to necessarily deconvert anyone but it helped pulled me away from a more fundamentalist way of thinking and I value that a lot. This and his nephilim video will always be some of my favorite videos on this platform.
I had a dream of the leviathan once, I was in the middle of the ocean, possibly on a boat and as lightning struck and illuminated the water, Leviathan was standing tall within the waters, it was an interesting dream.
That sounds badass
@@joshybosley391 yes and frightening, I stood up in the boat and it was dark but from a far you seen this giant Leviathan shaped dragon in the lightning light staring back at me
I know only one Leviathan. It's called Livyatan Melvillei.
Of course they did not coexist with modern humans lol
+Simon Kozlovič The closest thing we've to a true Leviathan are the boringly psycopathic Killer Whales; boring :P
I thought this was going to be a "Your Mom" joke
T2266 #metoo
The DORUK modern sperm whale is the closest. Considering livyathan was a sperm whale.
Livyatan (pronounced the same as Leviathan) is just hebrew for whale. Any whale. Livyatan katlan (killer whale), livyatan zerrah (sperm whale), livyatan cakhol (blue whale), and so on. As simple as that.
It is a reference, as well as a possible modern explaination (the Hebrew language was revived only by the late 19th century to early 20th century) to the mythical biblical entity.
Behemoth, by the way, is also a name given to a real-life creature in hebrew: Hippopotamus. And a similar word, Behemah, is used to refer to livestock, as Beh'emott is it's plural.
Seems to me the ancients discovered bones of a massive prehistoric animal, or maybe a blue whale.
One thing that came into my mind was the area in Sahara that has tons of whale bones. The area used to be ocean some..... was it over 10000 years ago. But it hasn't been desrt for that long. So I don't know. The legends probably didn't start from that specific area but that's just what I thought of first.
Discovered bones? I'm betting they saw live whales.
See the legends of the bones hanging outside the Warsaw Cathedral in Poland. They named and referred to them as "Dragon bones that are doomed to fall at a big earthquake signifying the end of the world" or something like that. Modern archaeology confirmed they were, in fact, dinosaur and whale bones.
@dylinda matiga only if you go with translation of leviathan in Job as a crocodile. Otherwise, no they did not.
It's always a whale right? Lol
Love the use of the original meaning of 'meme'
When you reach the peak of: My Dad can beat up your Dad.
Yahweh from the top rope! 😂
It's a protoreligious monster that spread throughout most of the world. That's amazing! Thank you Trey.
This whole thing is so interesting because, if you think about it, it makes a lot of sense. To people who have no idea of what venom is or how it works, snakes are kind-of magical in how dangerous they are. One bite and suddenly you feel really weird and usually die. And since many snakes mate in large writhing masses of slithering bodies, it's no wonder that ancient people looked at these weird-looking masses of magic death lizards and thought of it as one body with multiple heads. Then, from there, the creature's just made gigantic to up the danger of it and the deity (personified by another force that can't be explained) is made out to be much more powerful by their ability to defeat such a thing.
No problem! It was definitely fun to research ;)
TREY the Explainer
Maybe we can have something for Jurassic Parks 25th anniversary?
trey you did an awaesome video but i am still convince all of this tales come from migrating barn owls
Geez calm your tits girl! you give ancient people too much credit, i use to live in the fields deep in the mountains of my country and i can tell you most country people (or people who live withiut too much technology) are dumb as rocks and believe all sort of things, also make al sort of stories to try to explain what happens aroud them, until someone dares to challenge that way of thinking of course, but mostly decades or even centuries pass until that happens, and that is how this stories come to life, is not that hard to understand you know.
19:04 Magmar used Flamethrower
Jonah Epstein ....Huh....we don't have a Grass Type Theropod
Guess the thing getting hit is some Regional Variant of Tropius
KSound Kaiju Then what's Sceptile?
Mighty Ant43. Mostly lizard
KSound Kaiju But according to its biology it’s a theropod. Bipedal, three toed limbs, and according to the fact that they are pretty fast they must have hollow bones so yeah, I think Sceptile is a theropod.
Ah yes Leviathan... Someone who spend >$5000 for a game
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why the hell is the dinosaurs eating plants with sharp teeth
Because creationists are wicked smaht.
Sauropods also had sharp teeth. Only the ornithischians had chewing teeth.
Because he is hungry
sense this is creationist art portraying the Garden of Eden, this is likely based on the interpretation of the bible that thinks that all animals were herbivores until after the Flood of Noah.
The illustrations from that book (Dinosaurs of Eden) are absurd, I there's a Parasaurolophus BREATHING FIRE. Or Knights fighting a Baryonyx.
By what I know about my old ancestral line, I have a theory:
The people of Judah lived in a mountainous and deserted area while the coastal areas belonged to the now extinct group of the Philistines, meaning they probably didn’t have a lot of connection to the sea.
The Mediterranean Sea has grey whales, the second largest animals in the world.
The rare encounter of the people of Judah with the grey whale (when some were in the sea), mixed with legends of dragons from other Mediterranean religions, probably mixed together for the legend of the leviathan.
Philistines were possibly Indo-European peoples, which may explain how the myth of the world-serpent entered Semitic mythology.
It could also just have been fossilized dinosaur skeletens that they saw as Leviathan. Since God fed the bodyparts of Leviathan to the creatures of the desert. And since sleketons in are sometimes laying on the surface it could have been that they interpreted the bones in this way.
Dinosaur fossils are rare in the Middle East (It was mostly under water during that time). That is a far more likely explanation for Chinese dragons, since China is dripping in dino fossils.
Dodoraptor and other animals That's a good theory, they might've seen it's body floating by the top of the water and went "Holy shit is that just one part of it's massive whole? I'm gonna write this down." I personally think it was supposed to be parabolic, basically just saying "God loves you so much he killed this massive ass, scary ass thing to make you. You worth it girl, love yaself girl" but if that's not the case what you said is probably my go-to theory.
Impiril Knight, God fed the Leviathan to the creatures of the Sea... not Desert...
It's also important to note that canaanites were not only the neighbours of the israelites, they were their brothers. Hebrew is a canaanite language. So, the Hebrews were just another canaanite people and thus at some point spoke the same language and had the same myths, but that later due to historical events (most notably the Late Bronze Age collaspe) morphed into a different culture. This different culture did not change at once, for example many Gods were still revered, but some very early notable changes were the beggining of the practice of circumcision and avoiding the meat of pork. This is known mostly through archeological evidence. (the book "the Bible Unearthed" by Finkelstein and Silberman is a good discussion of the archeological evidence related to the Bible).
I know ;)
Hebrews were essentially just Canaanites that simply grew distant from the others over time. So it makes sense they would have similar beliefs and myths
Yes, but Semitic languages is a great group that includes a lot of minor families, inside the Northwest semitic languages it's inside the Canaanite language grouping, alonside Ugaritic and Phoenician. That means that the three languages had a mother language (like Latin is the mother language of Spanish, Italian and French), that language is called protocaananite and was the language spoken by the canaanites before the 11th century b.c, after which the different dialects of the language began to separate themselves due to the aftermath of the Bronze Age collapse in the second half of the 12th century BC.
To put it clearly canaanite languages is like saying romance language. Both Latin and Spanish are Indoeuropean language, but they have a more improtant relationship as parent and daughter languages. The same hapens with canaanite (or better said proto-canaanite and Hebrew).
Elsenoromniano
the phoenicians and hebrews took their language from the egyptians. the hebrews were nomads that were enslaved by the egyptians (shasu of yhw) only later to free there self and befriend the phoenicians and conquer the middle east (amarna tablets). king david and and king Hiram I where friends . the philistines and sea people ( the bronze age killers) where killed by the hebrews , phonicians and egyptians .
No, they didn't take their language from the Egyptians, they took their writing from them, but language and writing are two different things. Second, the Jews were never enslaved by the Egyptians, Canaan was conquered by Egypt, but that well before there was any distinct Hebrew culture. The Amarna tablets are a set of tablets that show correspondence between the Kingdom of Egypt and various allies, the don't make mention to Hebrews in any way (I know fo the term Apiru, but modern scholars taht have studied the texts negate the relationship and point that Apiru seems mroe a social class, like bandits, than any ethnic group). As for being killed by Hebrews, Phoenicians and Egyptians, Ramses III did defeat the Sea People, which the Phillistines were probably part of), but then he resettled them in the Pentapolis area (that concords also with what the Bible says). The Phillistines were ultimately defeated by the Neoassyrian empire and after that they seem to ahve disappeared as a distinct group). By the way when that happened there still was any distinct Hebrew or Phoenician cultures. As I said the distinction between Phoenician and Hebrew culture began in the 11th century.
Another interesting fact, today it is believed that the sea people were not the main driving force behind the Late Bronze Age collapse, rather they were jsut another contributing factor about a myriad of others like the introduction of iron working, overrelliance on trade, droughts, famines, civil unrest and a long etc.
Elsenoromniano
judea was only one tribe out of 12 tribes .the egyptians enslaved the hebrews and other nomads .they called the hebrews the shasu of yhw. shasu translates to cattle nomads .
ywh is the egyptian way of saying yhwh . also apiro is just a word for rebels, outlaws and raiders.
who do you think where the raiders if not the shasu of yhw and there phoenicians allies .
the hebrews and the phoenicians helped the people living in canaan to rebel aginst the agyptian invaders and killed the Amurru.
the hebrews came in to existense in the end of the bronze age .
fun fact the tribe of dan where Mercenaries Hired by Egypt as a way to keep order
Sounds like in early man’s history, there was significant solar activity which resulted in massive worldwide auroras...
Trey should be in Smash V
Change My Mind
I can't because you're right
There is no argument against this
Trey the barn owl
BusStop’s Pets Who would want to change your mind about that?
can't change what is right
This video gave me so many nicknames for my all Gyarados party in pokemon. :P
All gyrados? :o that sounds sick
As for Aztec mythology its tezcatlipoca and quetzalcoatl vs the cipactli. You got the right depictions from the borgia codex, but didn't do it right. Cipactli can be seen on page 39 (at least her head), but to see how big she is, you got to tape the pages around her to get a good idea since the borgia codex was one big document.
I have always wondered about this. If a whale washed up on a beach or if they found bones of a whale or an ancient sea creature on a beach. How would ancient man incorporate the findings in their world view? Everyone would be interested in what was found and someone had to explain it. News and moral stories were spread by use of bards or storytellers, with each one getting more and more elaborate. Maybe bones of the Leviathan story is just from an event like that. It fits with the battle between order and chaos.
An unexpected TREY video, day just got better.
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The Job Description makes it sound like GodZilla all the way
Where do you think they got the idea of Godzilla from
"Job Description". That could've been a pun.
@@soulrebel6309 Godzilla was inspired by the Lucky Dragon, a Japanese fishing boat that was too close to hydrogen bomb testing in the Pacific.
Godzilla is a movie, this animal was there before godzilla. godzilla is not real
@@richielovy5254 Leviathan is not real too, that was not what he was saying.
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WAS THAT A JOJO REFERENCE?
The leviathan is the golden spiral
Waaaaaaat HOW COULD i BE SO BLIND !!!!!
Dojyaaa~~n!
CienkiTV I just wanted to watch an owl-filled video, not be reminded of sbr
CienkiTV new theory: diego brando can transform whales into the leviathan
That was an extremely interesting and insightful video. I grew up thinking leviathan was a literal description of a fire breathing dinosaur or crocodile. I hadn't heard of the story of Yahweh slaying the leviathan before. I knew mythologies often had similarities, but this really opened my eyes to how much the Hebrews really borrowed from their Canaanite neighbors.
Fun fact: in this context Rahab means the leviathan, Egypt, and the sea in general. Analyzing these passages using Egypt instead of leviathan, gives a slightly historic narrative. It was around the time period of Job (~700-600 BCE) that the Egyptian Empire was being broken up and "feeding" into smaller, growing empires like the Israelites and the Libyans.
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@in777sight I don't entertain ideology that the Bible is prophetic in anyway.
@in777sight You don't think it's at all possible rather than the Bronze Age authors of the Bible making predictions of war with submarines over oil reserves 3000 years in the future, that perhaps the Israelis named their submarines and oil field after the creature in the Bible?
@in777sight Wow that's a lot to take in man, including the idea that Jesus founded Nazareth as a tent city. Amazing stuff. Where was that in the Bible? Could you provide some substantiated links to that information?
Just for the record though: the myth came first and then the submarine. The chicken and egg thing doesn't work; first the submarine, then the monster story and then another submarine? You see what I'm getting at?
"Historians want to deny the Bible by saying the city they found named Nazareth is not old enough to be in the time frame when Jesus lived because they are single minded."
That's some proper projection there mate. What single minded notion would lead you to suggest historians, archaeologists, should accept the Bible version without any evidence?
Ahh! Of course! But you have the evidence. You have the tents. I look forward to reading your peer reviewed articles on the subject.
Do you know for certain that the symbolism means what you think it does? The meaning of the profecies about the furture are being hidden from our eyes.... About the meaning of things like the number 666 mentioned in revalation is a lot of speculation. You can only know what God means in his prophecies when he explains it to you. Only if He opens your eyes. Did God reveal the meaning of all the things mentioned in the list of ......=..... to you or is it speculation?
Could you do a video expanding on the connections between ancient middle eastern religions and myths and Norse paganism?
Otto Taylor yes
I really love that these videos delve into the polytheistic roots of biblical text. It really helps re-mythologicize (real word??) what was forced onto me as wholistic fact and infallible text. I was raised as a Jehovah's Witness and they constantly insist that there is nothing "spiritualistic" (polytheistic/ not easily passable as christian/ anything with any roots or association with any religion not Christian) and seeing that so plainly proven false is a good feeling. Thank you for you and your research and your well of knowledge, my dude.
Definitely needing some sleep when I thought I somehow heard "have you ever heard the wolf cry to the blue corn moon" in the biblical references
Franco can u explain?
Explain?
@@ali773n Probably higher than a cloud
@@ali773n it's a line from Disney's Pocahontas; specifically from the song Colors of the Wind.
@@Fryguystudios oh, I KNOW that song by heart! Its one of my favorite Disney songs! But i didnt know what it had to do with this video, but I guess i get what this person was saying now.
Job is a pretty fun bible book. It's like it was smuggled in from a completely different religion.
Limey Lassen Nah, that would be Esther.
Anon B, the book of esther is supposed to represent that even though God does not seem to be around his influence is every where. Noting the fact that God is never mentioned in the book of esther. But there is countless moments that seem so sparatic and influenced by God to happen.
For example: mordicai out of nowhere and coincidentally over heard people plotting to kill the king and ended up saving his life.
Limey Lassen it's more like a story telling all the people who have doubts about god to stfu and learn their place
Jeremy Gonzalez The reason I said Esther, is because the content appears Babylonian in origin.
The two main characters Esther and Mordecai have suspiciously similar names to Ishtar and Marduk who were deities of that region. When you couple facts like that with the absence of God in the book (although some additions tried to make up for that), it has one of the weakest cases for being in the Biblical canon.
There are several books in the OT which have been squabbled about. Esther is one. The Song of Songs is another, which some people have wanted removed. The Protestants actually did remove a number of OT books as you probably know.
"Hey ma boy job. What's happening? Oh you are having a good life and shit? Welp, better change that."
The only Leviathans I know are those in Monster Hunter.
That and brute wyverns are my favorite monster class.
Lol. But seriously, dalamadur is basically leviathan but spikier, and in a mountain
Heyyyyyyy , oh shit waddup ^^
Lost World hello, monster hunter has two leviathans(dalamadur and raviente) and a mini leviathan( najarala)
Same here!
It’s a highly decayed beluga
Donald Donahue it's clearly a barn shark
This is very interesting - I noticed earlier the similarities with Thor and Ba'al and wondered if Loki was also related to Lotan / Litan being a shape shifter (with many faces) but then you mentioned Thor and Jormangundr (child of Loki) and then there was also St George and the Dragon
Make a video about the aqautic ape theory, and possibly more content about prehistoric life rather than cryptids please:)
Aquatic Ape?
Just ruined your day mermaids
Mermaids are real, but most people call them dolphins "that was a joke btw"
Just ruined your day Basically it's the hypothesis that humans had a semiaquatic stage in their past that gave them many of their unique traits, like hairlessness and a bipedal posture for wading. However, any and all evidence for this hypothesis has been proven false. For example: hairlessness isn't a symptom of being a semiaquatic mammal as demonstrated in otters, capybaras, polar bears, tapirs, etc. But the biggest nail in the coffin is that we have filled in any gaps in the human fossil record big enough for a semiaquatic phase.
The only reason this "theory" is still around is because some people think it's being rejected because scientists are being a bunch of stuck-up snobs and not because it has zero evidence towards it and plenty to the contrary.
Schiller- makes sense. Have anyone shown these findings to them; or do they just downplay it to protect their fragile minds?
yo, Christian Representative here...awesome video and good scholarship; I'm a big fan of the Book of Job and love discussion on philosophical interpretation of the Leviathan. Connecting it to the cultural background of its day was the best thing to do, people cheapen and ruin the monster when saying it's a dino. professional research and tops on respecting religious people :-)
Thank you so much :) I'm happy you enjoyed my video! and I'm proud that I made it in a manner that was respectful to religious people because that was my intent ;)
I agree I think the dinosaur interpretation of Leviathan is just lazy and doesn't do the creature justice.
I think a lot of the "literalist" approach to the Bible tends to be lazy and fails to do any justice at all to the complex textures of what is actually a complicated collection of documents written over many centuries in a variety of languages, cultural perspectives, and styles, on different subjects, and in different genres, missing especially the subtleties of allegories, parables, allusion, and other techniques that Biblical writers used to reach their audiences through ideas that were not meant to be taken "literally", but rather meant to reach audiences on more illustrative storytelling levels than direct lecturing alone could ever achieve. The "literalist" approach is a sadly Victorian-era limitation - with the Victorian distrust and fear of fiction and imagination - upon the vast palette of communication styles available to Bibilical writers - and by extension to God - to communicate with audiences and impart deeper truths and concepts than the mere veneer of the "literal" layer of what is being imparted through less direct but no less valid literary and communication techniques.
Markus Arseneault also , am a fellow Christian as well.
It isn't a sea creature. Actually read Job 41. "Will he speak soft words to you, will he make a covenant with you, will you take him for a servant forever?" So you're saying it's a talking dinosaur whom Christians made a covenant with whom they take for a servant? Surprise, Job 41:15 = Acts 9:18 "Scales fell from his eyes, he rose and was baptized." It's Apostle Paul and his thorn of Satan in his flesh.
irishbreakfast right. all those fire-breathing mosasaurs that lived alongside people.
You: Leviathan
Me, an intellectual: Twisty Boi
Wulf MidKnight basking whale
-the hebrews
😂
Me also an intellectual: the nope rope
Me with a big brain: discount world serpent
Me with a galaxy brain: super superior snek
@Pure_Steve _1153
Such power... could it be?!?? The legends told of this but I never thought I’d see it with my own eyes!!
I truly love how much research, detail, hard work, and passion you put into your content. Even though it takes a lot of effort to make these videos I can tell that you enjoy doing it and really enjoy sharing the awesome knowledge with others, that you always put together so wonderfully. Every subject you work on you always make it so interesting, exciting, and really unique! I’ll always be a subscriber. I learn so many amazing things from you... things that are rarely spoken about or even known by most people. You’re awesome! 🥰 Knowledge is not only power, but is happiness and it also feeds my imagination/world view even more. Thank you Trey. ❤️👍🏼
A Truman Capote quote basically sums up Yahweh’s reply to Job:
“‘Shut up’, He explained.”
"zip it"
TREEEEEYYYYYYY. I just clicked on the video but I'm already commenting because hopefully you'll read this early. YOUR VIDEOS ARE AMAZING AND YOU'RE A GREAT CONTENT CREATOR. WE LOVE YOU!
Phantom, he's good when he talks aboutwhat he knows. The problem is, he knows nothing about the Bible other than his old Young Earth Creationist arguments. What he gave in this Video is an overcompensation for that, but he projected toomuch into it. A lot of what he said has no basis in fact.
Thanks man :) I'm happy you enjoyed it
No I am not projecting in this video in the slightested dude. That's just something you've made up in your head because you just don't like what the evidence says
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My Blackwatch brother how you doin
Fandom intersection, let's go.
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As a writer, I love learning about the roots of these mythologies and how they most likely evolved and changed over the centuries. Like, the idea a cavedude saw a snake get hit by lightning and came up with this campfire tale about the sky father and the serpents, that then became a religious tale, and then diverged into so many other tales - that's so cool. like the biggest game of telephone or the longest run of fanfiction ever! I am so thankful for all the channels that have cropped up going into the histories of these mythologies and how far back we can trace them.
Its a metaphor
Leviathan is a metaphor for God's working with creation, it's a monster but might/did exist. It's the biggest monster serpent/dinosaur in history.
The Bible mentions truth, we shouldn't compare it to forgeries and myths. In the crowd of story's it looks no different but the history of the Jews is real and Christianity wouldn't exist without Christ. Jesus was witnessed to be the promised Messiah, the savior of the world.
@@specilegg Quit spamming, guy. No one bought it last time, and no one's buying it this time 😂
This is actually the ancient summerian creation myth retold
Agreed.
Just like the flood!
I think that the most accurate and unaffected story of creation is "Enuma Elish"
Your channel is so awesome!
Thank you :)
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Now flat earthers are gonna go to the "edge of the world" and see if Leviathan is circling it I bet
YOUR FUNNY .
@@christinedin8515 ?
I would love to go beyond the ice wall. You need permission (Antártica Treaty) and you can’t get it.
@Love Only well said
It says on psalms 27 how god defeated this creature n gave it to the Hebrews to eat in the wilderness
I find fascinating that so many cultures have huge serpents in their mythology. Even in my country, natives had a tale of two serpents called Tenten and Coi Coi (sometimes with a "vilu" added at the end). One of them hated humanity and raised the sea to drown everyone while the other protected humans raising the earth. And there are so many more like Quetzacoatl, chinese dragons, the Leviathan, Jormungandr and so on. Can't help but wonder where the stories really came from.
It really makes me want to believe these huge serpents are real but, to be honest, we should have found some by now. Still, it's cool to believe they might be out there.
It's an ancestral feature. Other Primates are also scared of Snakes.
Still waiting on that Behemoth episode :V
So you're saying this was one of the first man-made memes?
Monika Senpai *beasts are memes, holy shit*
Nope. Leviathan represents CHAOS. It does so across 2250 ancient cultures Cosmologies.
OH BOY! ITS THE ANTI-SPIRAL!
Ur damn right I’m a meme.
Uh oh.
One of the first? Maybe, but things like language far precedes it.
Everyone knows the Earth's foundation is made from turtle(s).
All the way down
Incorrect its Ohio
Giant death owl- baking shark.
Edit- Meant basking shark, but holy shit do baking sharks need to be a thing.
"baking shark"
HEY HONEY WHATS THAT SMELL
Don't worry babe it's just a baking shark.
Horrible demon thing more like an ordinary dolphin that's been crumbled up and kissed with coral blue number 2 lip stick.
Leviathan and Yahweh are both top level Pokemon.
when you mentioned that the serpent vs storm god story as a "meme" i can imagine some ancient dude reading a mythos and getting to a part with the storm god vs. the serpent and facepalming because he has seen it so much
"ugh dead meme"
I had never considered adding Leviathan to my growing list of global commonalities of myths and religions, but here you are giving us this.
Thank you.
No problem :)
I've a year of Comparative Religion under my belt but didn't get to learn much of mythology, so a lot of these similarities are new to me. I welcome the filling of that knowledge gap, thank you.
Trey.... this wasn’t really a break, this is one of your shortest breaks ever!! So this is just a another early Christmas!!
If you enjoy treys content then you should check out my stuff, its not as good but i'm getting there and as its early days I would appreciate the view.
Moth Light I subbed