This topic has been on my heart for a long time now. I've always been pro-lgbt but since I started to get closer with God and my faith grew deeper, it's like my entire mindset changed on this matter. My sister is Christian but also lgbt, and when she asked if I supported it I said no. She got mad and said that's not Christlike. When I told her that I can't support something that goes against God, she told I am homophobic because I don't support it. I told her that just because I am against it DOES NOT mean I'm condemning anyone. I know I will face many things like these, as I am only still 16, and will surrounded by people who identify with the lgbt community. Please pray for me to respond in a Godly way to sensitive matters like these
I pray in the name of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior that He gives you the wisdom of Solomon and evangelistic tongue of Paul to speak the truth in love to those around you, especially the LGBTQIAP+ community 🙏🏼🙏🙏
You said nothing wrong. Many in the lgbtq+ has been hurt by the church for centuries. Anything that’s perceived, as attacking them they will respond. In the West, one’s sexuality’s seen as someone’s identity. To say that actions associated with that is a sin (Rm 1), they perceive it as a threat to their existence. But, continue to show grace to her, keep the door open, be there for her. You can’t change anyone only God can.
@@Topg1 the problem is that god doesn’t change gay people. No one actually buys the “we love the sinner, hate the sin” nonsense. You are either cool with us or you’re not.
And love is warning them of what will happen if they don't turn from their sin and trust in Jesus Christ. Hate is accepting their sin knowing the punishment that they will suffer for it. True love tells hard truth. That unless they repent and come to Jesus Christ, there will be gnashing of teeth and no rest in the spiritual death that is to come. Love warns them, that they may be pulled to safety from the destruction that is to come
Love is not the issue. Romans 1 "For this cause God gave them up to vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another... I can love gays but that is what the Bible says. Call it homophobic. The belief is that it is unnatural and take up the argument with the Apostle Paul. So was the Apostle Paul not a real Christian? If a Christian sees a chain smoker, does mean that he does not let him know that he could get lung cancer or takes cocaine, will he not warn that person? So yes, I would not hate that person but I might show this is what the Bible says. Is that hate? Let them read it.
Jesus said in John 8:7 “He that is without sin cast the first stone at her.” Everyone’s made mistakes and we’re not any different from you. Just wanted to let you know that you’re loved. ❤️
Kellie it is not a matter going to hell the focal point to realize like a parent who has a rebellious kid who cannot stand his parents They allow them to living on their own knowing they will wreck and ruin their life. Like the story of the prodigal son the father allowed him to go away and sleep with prostitutes even though it hurt the Father Grace is greater than our sin. Yes, there are a lot of homophobic people but there are also people who read Romans 1 and realize that Paul is saying certain things are destructive. Are the words hateful? It may seem that way but it is the truth.
"God gave us not the spirit of fear, but of a spirit of love, and of power, and of a sound mind." (2 Timothy 1:7) Even when the situation seems impossible, we have to remain clinging on to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit no matter what happens. Yesterday was such a tragic day. I shall pray for the lost and affected.
I am an 88 year old gay man who has never had a gay relationship my whole life because of the confused LGBT message I got from my church. Yes, I was married to a woman for 18 years, had four children, and, of course, it broke up because of whom I actually was! While I am happy with my life and the direction I took with it, if I had a child who was gay, I would want a more "Jesus" approach to acceptance. Unfortunately our churches merely tolerate gay people and until they step away from their mere "toleration" approach, our churches will continue their "anti-Jesus" approach to outreach!
Yes, love them. People confuse loving them with accepting their sins as okay. That's not loving them, that's just ignoring their problems. Does God ignore our sin or does he address it and then help us heal? He helps us heal. But he also doesn't shower hatred on us because of our sin. He lovingly guides us to himself so he can heal our brokenness. It takes submission. And submission in that way cannot be forced. Only God can change hearts. Only God can take a broken soul and make it whole again. So let us pray for them and share God's word with them. But know that God is the only one who can change their hearts and minds. That's not something we can do.
@@nathanoosterhuis6232 the same as the definition on line. homophobia /ˌhɒməˈfəʊbɪə,ˌhəʊməˈfəʊbɪə/ Learn to pronounce noun dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people.
This is what most Christians see wrong. Loving your enemy doesn't mean you agree with them. No, you disagree on things that are not of God. Because telling them that sin or wickedness is good is not loving your enemies. Sure your can be thoughtful in how to present how it is. (Matthew 10:16 "I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.) If you love your enemies then you tell them what will save them from hell. Don't sugarcoat sin.
N Oost If you love them, then you wouldn’t deny them the right to have their relationships recognized via the state. You actually have naught but contempt for them, and want their lives to be miserable, simply because they are different than you.
B K Recognition from the state has nothing to do with this in my opinion. Everyone can do as they please in that matter. It comes down to personal choice. I don't want people to be miserable and obstruct their choice. My gfs mother has a female partner. I don't hate them. I like them, because they are nice people. I don't go around telling that they should not be or that they should be miserable. If it comes to it I will share my beliefs. If you read about Jesus and how he spent time with prostitutes and tax collector. People that were despised by the community. That's how I want to present myself, but never dilute what I deem truth or sin.
Hmm I might be mistaken but isn’t Paul talking to Corinthian believers who are indulging in sexual sin? I think we ought to treat non believers who indulge in sexual sin and professing believers who indulge in sexual sin differently. The reason I make this argument is that Jesus often treats non believers who indulge in sexual sin by pushing them gently towards the gospel such as in John 8:1-11 where there was a woman convicted of sexual immorality. However, when Paul talks to the corinthian church, he is talking to people who claim to be believers and hence he must be more strict and tells them to have nothing to do with people who claim to be believers but still indulge in sexually immorality. “I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people- not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people. What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.”” 1 Corinthians 5:9-13 And so I think when dealing the LGBT community, we ought to be loving and gentle and push them to the gospel rather than condemning them unless they are claiming to be believers which then we should do the latter. Lol hopefully im understanding your comment correctly and that im not making a comment on something you also agree with haha
@@ashleycheung2315 I agree to this! The Corinthians had already a brief background of who God is. They knew him! Yet they chose to cling into doing unrighteous works.
@@ashleycheung2315 cause cutting off your gay friends is gonna bring them closer to god. sure. if anything, it's gonna make them turn away from him i think. but hey, what do i know?
How should you respond? Be respectful & understanding towards people especially if their sexual orientation doesn’t cause harm to themselves or others. You have no business judging them.
As a Christian, I do love everyone, including the LGBT community. We need to understand God's definition of love instead following the world's definition of love. Actually, their sexual orientation may harm others especially if they have mothers and fathers who have strong faith in God. Ultimately their worldly sexual orientation does hurt God's feelings because you would reject God's true identity for you.
I do not take this as a positive message towards LGBT. How many times is he going to say we're lost? I'm trans, I'm not lost. I didn't even start to find myself until I stopped trying to bury my true identity and started to embrace who I really am. I'm not lost, I'm not broken or sick. I'm simply different than the majority, God doesn't have an issue with it, man does.
@@happycamper3561 How are you going to tell me I'm deluding myself for my beliefs when you don't even know what they are? I'm not the issue here, you're just getting hung up on the politics and activist while you don't even understand what it truly means to be trans
@@somberaffair2316 with all due respect, every single cell of your body has your gender coded in the strands of your dna. You are never going to be able to change your biology. You can try to change your appearance and even remove/change your organs. But your gender is assigned to you by God. You are living a lie if you think you can change that.
@@happycamper3561 With all due respect, it is silly to tell someone you don't even know that they are living a lie. Not that you care to hear, but I was living the lie before embracing who I am. It didn't matter how hard I tried, I was never going to be a masculine person. I was spiritually dead until I stopped rejecting myself and started embracing who I am. I completely suppressed all trans thoughts for 95%+ of my life up until last year, at 28 years old. The only desires or interest I had were weed and video games, I struggled to hold down jobs, I had to suppress how I wanted to interact with my girlfriend, and got by on fantasies of running away and embracing my suppressed identity. Life felt hopeless, the only things I had any type of interest in were killing me spiritually, and I definitely tried to get into more productive things. I would get addicted to anything that let me escape reality, I went 30 days sober and was pretty much just dead the entire time. After 30 days of healthy eating, exercise, and working at a job I liked, where I was excelling, I still felt dead. I didn't start to come back to life until I started taking estrogen, and now I'm starting to develop a personality. I'm starting to enjoy just being here, my anxiety has started to get better instead of worse, I no longer feel like drugs and video games are a requirement for my life. I'm happier, more stable, more productive. Taking estrogen has done nothing but good for me, and I have common sense, I'm well aware I wasn't born a cis woman, I'm well aware there are biological differences. Are you aware that there are surgeries and treatments that lead to me having a more comfortable existence? Why do you think God is against that? He seemed to be more against suppressing the personality he gave me.
@Mrs Pleasants sorry ur wrong, a phobia is NOT A FEAR!!!!!! A phobia is an irrational hate, dislike or fear or all 3......Got that? According to the WORD homophobia IS a sin. I did not write the WORD and you (no one) can change what it says no matter how much you try to rationalise why you think it is wrong. That does not mean you can't repent (turn away) from sin. That is what you should be preaching...not condoning what is clearly sinful in both the Torah and the New Testament.
@Mrs Pleasants since homophobia is a sin, that does NOT mean I need to agree with you or partake in your sins. Because you may want to remember that grace does not abound if we sin more. Therefore, you should not be teaching that sinful behaviour is acceptable...rather teach repentance from it.
Jobe god doesn’t exist, he’s just a fairytale character. Homosexuality isn’t a sin, is a natural variant of human sexual orientation. Nothing wrong with that
Our true enemy is the dark force of Satan. So many people do things that please the enemy, and not God. They act against followers of Jesus the Messiah, not necessarily willingly, but because they are blinded by this evil, fallen world. We love all people because we are not any better than they are. Not one is righteous (see Romans 3:10), which means there is nothing to lord over anyone. Our own kind is not our enemy, rather, a form of earthly opposition use by the enemy of our hearts, Satan (aka "the devil"). We love people, even those who oppose us, because we are all subject to God's wrath because of sin. Those who realize they are flawed, sinful, and have no eternal life in our own power, can be saved by grace. Jesus called all to repent (change your mind, in this case, to view sin as evil and recognize we are in need of salvation), and ask for salvation. God loves all people, and wants us all to live for Him and be forgiven, saved and heaven bound.
It's funny how we Christians seem so hell bent on blaming ourselves for the hatred the darkness has for us. As if they want us to build relationships with them. They hate us for what we stand for and believe. Jesus was the perfect expression of Love and Goodness from the Father and you see what they did to Him. He said the world HATES Him and so they will hate us. Why do we keep trying to figure out how to get the world to stop hating us? Granted we should certainly not spew hateful words towards them and not ATTACK them, but trying to buddy up with them is a fools errand and will just force us to compromise and water down the Truth making us an impotent laughing stock.
FenderSchonJPX I agree to some extent. While compromising the bible is a symptom of loving our reputation more than Jesus is definitely the wrong way to go, "buddying up" or building friendships with those who oppose us is not a fools errand. Befriending our 'enemies' and building relationships with those who oppose us, can create a mutual trust and respect, and eventually tear down walls that might usually be seen as hatred had it not been for friendship. Keep in mind, we too are sinners.
I believe Jesus died for all sin, and all people. I also believe Jesus sent us to minister to all, with no partiality. There is no soul too broken for God's grace, and if we not be the messengers/vessels then who? So yes, we should reach out to the lost. Period. So in summary: Jesus died for homosexuals. Jesus died for anti-christian organisations. Jesus died for ISIS. Jesus died for all people.
"Trying to buddy up to them would be as foolish as making friends with ISIS." First you pretend you have the ability to speak on behalf of gay people. Then you trash them. Then you go "Boo hoo hoo I'm such a victim because of them". This is what you call your Christian "witness". Right?
dgbx6 Not only did I NOT pretend to speak for them, I did not trash them. I just identify with their hatred towards Christians. You whine like a little girl about us going boo hoo when they try to destroy peoples lives, livelihood and freedom because they won't bake a cake or participate in their perversion. Who's the whiny little cry baby now. Except the problem with a crybaby in an adult body is the amount of damage and destruction they can do. How much hatred do you have to have in your heart to want to wipe out someone's life just because they don't want to participate in your lifestyle? But you are just like all liberals. you project everything.
According to the Teachings of the Bible "All active Homosexuals and Homosexuality Sympathizers (applies to LGBTQ+) are going to Hell for an Eternity, Unless the come to full repentance and God Forgives them".
There’s a lot of self-righteousness when it comes to speaking about lgbt. I don’t like how culturally we ostracize it like it’s greater than any other sin. It makes me angry to see Christians hold people to standards that they could not reach themselves it’s not right. And before anyone says they’re not true Christians, hold your family accountable. They are christians like us do not separate yourselves when you can teach them.
It doesn’t matter if your Gay,Straight,Bisexual,Transgender, or Lesbian Let people love whoever they love! After all, Christianity is about loving the person you want to be with for the rest of your life, right?
Dahveed_Brid Well, I guess it’s just me.I feel that everyone should live their life’s with happiness.I hate it when people discriminate against certain groups just because of what a 10,000 year old book said.You can live your your way and I would like to live my life my way!
@@i-love-poketips1662 , that's what Satan wants you to believe. Satan is fighting for every soul he can get . This is his agenda to battle against god by destroying his most beloved creation.
The Bible says a lot of things that don't seem to make sense in our world today, especially about women and about slavery. But the Bible also says signs and wonders that follow them that believe. If anyone here can work a miracle for me to show me that my lifestyle is sin and to save me...let me know! And if, as I expect, no one is willing or able, then why should I believe the bit about condemnation again?
If you are a true Christian then you SHOULDN'T SUPPORT THE LGBTQ. Hating is a different thing, we know that the Bible says "Hate the sin not the sinner" so HATE THE SIN. STAND AGAINST HOMOSEXUALITY. Even if you don't want to speak against such sins ATLEAST DON'T SUPPORT IT
Homosexuals are turned off by most Christians because we (speaking from experience) would rather judge non-christians for their sin than let the spirit kill our sin. Once He begins killing sin in us, we will begin to look appealing to those lost in their sin. John's recent sermon Make War: a pastor and his people in the battle against sin, really seems to apply here.
Mr Grant sorry for the late comment but it is partly because of how many Christians behave that is the reason why I no longer want to be part of the faith. But I do hold this against or blame all Christians for this as a whole group of people cannot be blamed for the actions of some people
@@amandacogger7014 Judge a philosophy or worldview on its own merit, not by some people you disagree with who happen to say they believe that worldview.
how can their sexuality be considered sin if they claim to be born that way, or to be naturally oriented to the same sex? Jesus is the master of the obvious. Gay folks who love Jesus and want to follow him on the narrow road? they are part of the body of christ.
Billy Graham made a statement in regards to how to approach any person in life, “It is my job to Love and God’s job to judge”. That is what I do. As a Christian, I just choose to love everyone. God doesn’t need my help for anything.
I was a Baptist Pastor and missionary and I am gay. That has been medically proven. Being gay is NOT a choice. The Baptist Church put me through 13 years of reparative therapy including electronic shock therapy. The church have also chemically castrated gays. When all that doesn't work I was told I was not welcome to even attend church. What's more I never was welcome to attend. I am not sexually active. I am not broken because God created me gay. I was married to my very accepting wife for 51 years before she recently passed. She had MS for 26 years and I cared for her all that time. She was not able to stand or walk (ambulate) for the last 15 years. God creates some people gay. Its NOT wrong.
You sound like a really nice guy and I wish there were more like you. I can't imagine being gay and going to a Baptist church. God bless your dear and understanding wife who you clearly loved very much. You are who you are and I'm afraid so are those blinkered people who can't accept you. In contrast though, there are many believers who will accept you. Rely on those people and pray for the others in the clique of bigotry.
God is not the author of confusion, nor does God make anyone sin. Homosexuality is a sin, and the Bible states so in many places. We must not identify with our sins, but find our identity in Christ instead. A Christian who was a liar doesn't say 'I'm a liar Christian" nor does a Christian who formerly practiced adultery say "I'm an adulterer Christian". "I'm a gay Christian shouldn't ever be said." If you are a Christian, your identity is in Christ. 1 Corinthians 6: 9-11 9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
So basically, he says, we love you,... but because you are without God, and because you are LGBT, you need saved. So that's still far from loving LGBT people as equals, which I struggle to believe Christianity can do.
Queer Christians are also children of God and full humans worthy of love and dignity. If you’re concerned about church responsibility and responsibility within your community then there are two scenarios. The first and most likely is that the Queer Christians do not consider the anti-Queer interpretation of scripture as valid(as I don’t). In that scenario you are not going to be able to convict someone of wrongdoing if they have no sense that they are doing anything wrong. Christian history shows us this, people often resist even minor conversions on individual principles even under pain of death. As Martin Luther said: “unless I can be convinced by scripture and good sense, I can do no other.” People are going to live out their convictions. So you have two potential options, splitting the church and ostracization over interpretations isn’t going to change people’s minds so you can either present your interpretation and leave it at that or you and your church community can engage in an interpretational discussion. In the case of a different scenario where the Queer person doesn’t care what the Bible says then you should be careful because there could be many reasons why. It could simply be an uncertainty of faith as is common with many new Christians or new members of a church and any heavy hand on doctrine could be harsh, unwelcoming and counter productive. Many people come into churches unsure of many things and a theology lesson can often leave a bad taste in people’s mouth and push them away. So approaching that on a case by case basis is preferred though it’s not unreasonable to explain your beliefs so long as you aren’t trying to impose that in a way that feels targeted.
As a trans woman, Christian, president of one of the largest transgender support groups in the country, and a leader in the local LGBT community, I know a great many LGBT that want to seek Christ, but have been made to feel or told outright that they were not welcome by a church. I truly believe that we will all have to face God and account for what we have done, and there are 2 things that top my list that I would not want to be guilty of when I do. 1 - Rejecting Jesus. He told us plainly that nobody goes to the father but by him, and if we reject him, he will reject us before the father. 2 - Calling myself a Christian and as such, being entrusted to open the door and welcome ALL who come seeking him, only to be guilty of slamming the door in their faces saying they do not belong because they con't conform to my ideals. I truly fear for these people who think they are living Godly lives when that day comes.
God is also wrath. Tired of lukewarm, milk toast opinions. There is truth in this message...but it's only half truth. Love is ultimate but don't forget the attributes of God. He is perfect In love. He is also PERFECT in judgement and wrath. Need more preachers with backbone, not just what people want to hear. The truth is only hate to those who hate the truth.
Ryan Maes Romans 13:9 - 'For the commandments "You shall not commit adultery," "You shall not murder," "You shall not steal," "You shall not bear false witness," "You shall not covet," and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely "You shall love your neighbour as yourself."' Don't push people away from Christ. All are welcome to come to Jesus and repent. It is not your job nor your right to condemn others, especially as a sinner yourself. The commandment to all believers is to love. To disagree with that is to disagree with the Bible. God bless you.
ProMaxElite you can love but you also need to convict sinners as well as Christians who struggle with sins because Love alone won’t get you into heaven
Spicy Mobb We are saved through faith, not through work. “He has saved us and called us to a holy life-not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace" (2 Timothy 1:9). God desires all men to be saved. Therefore we as Christians need to spread the gospels and the truths to the sinners. We are not in a position to judge, or to convict. Love from God alone will get you into heaven.
Ryan Maes the wrath of God was satisfied on the cross. If it wasn't then why did christ die? All wrath was poured out on Him, when God looks at all persons, he sees the blood of his son and that settles it.
Me being a gay Christian:Christians say I can’t be gay and love god I will raise my kids in church I’m getting baptized soon and already sent my life to Christ once at home and planned to do it at church but COVID happened buttt I’m gay so who cares that’s your logic
It is not respecting a gay person to tell them that the only way to heaven is to deny their essence and very core of their being. To tell a gay person that they must never ever fall in love with the person they desire, to tell them that they must live a life of celibacy (which leads to loneliness and depression) until death. And that if they get to heaven after that life of complete isolation and lack of a relationship with another human being, that when they get to heaven, they will have to continue being alone is unfair to the extreme. Ask any married couple, "How do you two view life in heaven..?" They will always tell you about sharing it with "Their" children and "each other" ... That isn't even a possible for a person who has zero desire or affection or connection to the opposite sex. To tell them that all your remaining years on earth must be void of what we are put on this earth to do. "love one another" is insane. and to tell them after death and going to heaven for "being an incomplete person void of relationship and the God given gift of sex" That they must now look forward to an eternity in heaven with more denying your most loving feelings about a special someone" . That sounds like an eternity in hell to me. I cannot imagine not being able to love who my heart calls me to in heaven" . Is this what they mean by "in heaven as it is on earth".. As a child, I had not acted on any homosexual feelings. (no sex) . but God allowed me to be bullied every single day. I was clinically depressed and suicidal because of these bullies. If Heaven ask us to deny love for another, are bullies in heaven going to be waiting to put me down. No one ever addresses this very real question. How is an eternity in heaven going to be for someone who is attracted to the same sex, but never acts on it and or committing the sexual sin..? To me it sounds like a continuation of the extreme loneliness I experience on earth. If I"m going to be alone in heaven, without my beloved one that I spent 60 years with on earth. Who am I going to get a sense of contentment from.? Who am I going to talk to in heaven..? what is heaven going to be like for the "good, abstinent gay servant of Christ..?" The bible talked about eunuchs, made in the womb, made by man, made by self. Nowhere in the bible does it say that eunuchs are an abomination. (is it the distinction that eunuchs do not commit the sex sin..?) . What about the sin of self mutilation ..?(of the temple of Christ) I would rather enjoy all the happiness, companionship, learning, growing in a good relationship with someone I admire and love, (for next 50 years) . Than give it up only to expect it will be just the same in heaven. BTW Christopher the scientist know the cause of AIDS and it isn't HIV. HIV is a retrovirus and they attack hard, you either die or heal. It is impossible for a retrovirus to lie dormant for 10 years. Ask any honest virologist. AIDS is a syndrome my friend. Syndromes are a series of symptoms. Did you know that developed AZT (dr Gallo) to be used to treat Cancer patients. (funny thing) all ... let me repeat.. ALL of the patients developed kaposi sarcoma. (those little purple/black lesions) . Just one "AIDS symptom" caused by AZT. INTERFERON (which is chemo therapy) destroys the micro-biome and that is where your immune system resides. So now we have (2) symptoms being caused by the drugs they say will treat the disease. Since HIV is not the cause, and they are giving HIV patient that cause them to develop the symptoms in the syndrome called AIDS. What do you make of that. Go to Pubmed.gov and look up the 100's of studies on HIV/AIDS/HepB vaccine. Search: HepB vaccine linked to onset of AIDS.... Don't look up link to HIV because the scientific community knows that HIV is not the cause. Gallo is hailed as the biggest fraud in the Viral/Medical community. It doesn't exist. Millions of people died because they had been convince that "HIV" was going to eventually kill them. So these victims took the prescribed treatments that led to each of the symptoms that eventually killed them. This is a culling of man. All of the recent studies point to following Genesis 1:29-30, This is the perfect diet for perfect health and healing. Only seed bearing plants. That excludes GMO's because they do not bear a usable seed that will germinate. No grains because they cause intestinal permeability. ONLY FRESH LOCAL ORGANIC PRODUCE AND HERBS IF YOU WANT TO HEAL. Listen to what the bible told us in the beginning and get off of the drugs that are causing your body to breakdown and die. As a christian that is also Gay...I speak the truth that God showed me. Contact me if you want references, I have given lectures on the subject of healing thru pure eating and gratitude. Healing begins the moment you believe that HEALING IS POSSIBLE, and not until.
Rob K to address your concerns about heaven, I think you are completely misunderstanding what heaven is and will be like. Here in this life we are plagued with sin, in Jeremiah God says that the human heart is desperately sick, we are all sinners and deserve Gods wrath, however we have a great hope because Jesus' death on the cross took God's wrath off us along with our sin and gave us the right to become children of God! Now all of us still suffer the disease of sin in this life until death or until Christ return when our salvation is revealed. Not to say that we should live by sin, not at all! But by living in Christ we can rule over our sin and have life to the FULLEST and he will sanctify us in the spirit day by day and be our help in our struggles. However one day God will heal us completely from the disease of sin and we will be free from it once and for all. Free to serve God and we will desire what he desires and everything we do will be out of love for our God! People in heave will also not be married but we will all be the children of God as brothers and sisters with our Father. None of us will have a husband or wife, nor do I think we will desire to do so. There also certainly will be no bullies in heaven because we will all love God with all our heart soul and mind and we will be free from our sin to completely love each other as well. Bullies in heaven is unthinkable. Loniness in heaven is unthinkable. Sinful desires, guilt or shame will be foreign to heaven. We will know fully and be fully known by God and all God's people! Now Jesus came that you and me can have life to the fullest, eternal life, which begins here on earth. He prescribed a way of living that is best for his people and is right. Not that will always be easy but he will help you to live in his ways. God did not speak to you because what you say is contrary to his word. A homosexual lifestyle is contrary to what he said and so is contrary to the fullness of life you can have in Christ. Homosexuality is sin and it would be hateful in fact to lead you astray from that fact because I know and believe that the life God gives is the only way to give you complete joy and the only way you will be completely satisfied and have the eternal life he gives in this life and in the life to come.
So like the Eunuchs that were made in the womb, gay people that were made in the womb, must deny their desire to share their lives with the person they love and live a completely lonely and sexless life to get into heaven..? and not have thoughts and desires because that will keep them out of heaven..? I'm curious about the thoughts and desires my heterosexual counterpart has when he looks a a woman and says, "I want to spend my life with this person and there has to be a sexual chemistry..? Won't those desires and thoughts that lead him to want marriage cause him to sin..? "He who even looks at a woman with lust in his heart has sinned.." Why is it that straight men are praised for desiring a woman..? (a clear sin) (why does the church rejoice at the announcement of plans to get married and have children, to have children you have to have thought about sex with a woman) . that is sinful. Why is that ok for the heterosexual and not the homosexual to think about sex that leads to marriage..? I think people are just denying reality and human emotions that come from God. There is a time for everything, says the bible. Why are the rules of love different for gay people..?
Rob K eunuchs are not at all the same thing as homosexuality. And yes we must deny the desires of our sinful flesh everyday, every single one of us because we are all sinners. There is also a completely clear distinction between lust and natural good sexual desire for the one you are married to. If a heterosexual, or homosexual, goes around burning with sexual desires and lust after someone who they are not married to, not that homosexual marriage is ok, then that is wrong and no one should be praising it because it is sin. However, a marriage between a man and a women and sex in that relationship is a good and wonderful gift from God and is in no way sin. I have no delusions that experiencing homosexual desires or emotions would be an extreme struggle. But the cost of following Jesus is giving everything we have. The Bible says "the Kingdom of Heaven is like a treasure hidden in the field, which a man found, and hid. In his joy, he goes and sells all that he has, and buys that field." We must sell all we have and gain Jesus! He is the ultimate treasure and the ultimate joy!
So you're saying that anyone who has never had a desire to marry a woman, and has only has a desire to marry a man must deny the desire that God said is good. It would be a sin for a homosexual to marry a woman because of the deception and lie. A homosexual cannot honestly enter a holy union with a woman if he is not attracted to her. So are you saying that Homosexuals must deny all hope of having a relationship with the only mate that they honestly feel an attraction for...? And Why would God design men to be visually attracted and then deny any kind of hope for a life long marriage and loving relationship...? Doesn't seem fair that a loving man can't follow his natural attractions. Especially if he only wants to spend his life loving another man. Isn't that the golden rule..?
Rob K It’s all one massive misinterpretation. The bible doesn’t say that homosexuals are bad. The Bible says that men lying with men as with a woman, is sinful. That’s not the same thing as having a romantic relationship with someone same-sex yet never having sex.
Some of "these people" already have a relationship with Jesus. Just because you can't understand that doesn't mean they're wrong. It's time to mature your theology.
Its amazing how the LGBT know only about "love others" and all sorts of things about love...they can even quote scriptures about love. Let's go to the foundation of love. Am interested to know, if you're from LGBTQ please, what is your perspective about what "love" is? I'll appreciate the feedback
Well that really depends. Love comes in many forms. But assuming you emna romantic love, here is my take. The feeling of being comfortable with someone, and the feeling of wanting to be with that person. That is a general idea of Love. Notice how I didn't bind my definition to any genders. Now, to dive deeper, romantic love is what I said before, plus the added idea of feeling like you are yourself with that person, and you want them to be happy. That is my idea of love. If a Man and a Woman are capable of having both platonic and romantic love with each other, why can't a Man and a Man or a Woman and a Woman do the same?
Love is a complicated thing with many factors; commitment, partnership, care, aid, support. Love is a feeling and an action, the many factors are intertwined. Love is similar to any other large familiar concept, human words lack the capacity to fully encapsulate its meaning. Much of the poetry in almost every language has a significant portion of it dedicated to love; because it’s not a mystery we see it every day, and yet we don’t understand it. I recall the first time I fell in love, I spent a substantial amount of time worrying if I’d developed some sort of mental illness.
Thanks for asking! It is about bearing one another's burdens, rejoicing with those who rejoice, mourning with those who mourn, sharing your bread with the hungry, and visiting the sick, greeting one another with a holy kiss (ok, well at least a hug), give to those who ask and lend and expecting nothing back.
loving your enemy literally means they are your opponent, they are opponents to truth. It doesn't stop your love, but understand that love is a one way street until the Holy Spirit softens their hearts and converts their souls.
@@otherworld11 sin is natural; animals eat each other, tornadoes, strychnine- all natural. Your argument is technically mute: you are claiming natural is good and God approved. It is not.
@@d.j.wellington I know, satan uses all homophobics to lie in his name. So It's clear that the Devil is using you and it's sad. You really need to repent or you'll learn one day or the other. Be too late then though, still ur choice.
I hate being Christian and bisexual, everyone always thinks it’s a choice, like you really think I chose to be illegal in 74+ countries, you really think I chose for my parents to disown me simply for being bi? I like I can’t just stop being bi, I didn’t want this it’s not fair :(
@@charaabbeytonak6774 Hi Chara. Please pray that I can pay back my debts and that I live the rest of my life in a manner pleasing to God, my parents and that serves other people - by alleviating suffering, bringing hope, joy and leading them to Christ. Thank you! May God bless you!
Brok Homz Ah, Romans 1:30. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, PROUD, and boastful. They invent new ways of sinning, and they disobey their parents. Thanks, bro. I forgot.
You need to change church doctrine then. It clearly states you must be straight to be a Christian because of the scriptures in the bible calling homosexual behavior an abomination to god.
Being gay isn't a choice, just like being straight isn't a choice. No one wakes up one morning in their adolescence and says "You know, I find guys and girls equally attractive, but I've decided I'm going to pursue relations with the opposite sex." Our sexuality is in our DNA, just like our hand dominance and eye color. It's good to see so many Christians opposing god's directives. Jesus never said to disregard the Old Testament's commandments, which include stoning homosexuals to death; in fact, he said quite the opposite: "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." - Matthew 5:17-19. If you believe what's written in the Bible, then you must believe that Jesus himself said that the old law will apply "Till heaven and earth pass". Heaven and Earth are still here, so that means homosexuality remains an abomination punishable by death. Of course, the Bible was written by folks who didn't know where the sun went at night, so you shouldn't believe it anyway, but for those of you that still do, I commend you for defying your celestial dictator's orders. The god of the Old Testament is an immoral, malicious, petty, childish jackass, so any form of defiance is a victory for humanism. It's kinda like when the U.S. finally abolished slavery despite the fact the Bible clearly shows god is in favor of it. Heck, god himself even provides instructions on where to get your slaves, how to pass them on to your children, how badly to beat them without getting in trouble, etc. Freeing people held in bondage against their will was a big ol' "Up yours!" to the god of the Bible. We need a whole lot more of that if we're ever going to rise above archaic 1st century superstition.
If you hate God and seek to destroy his saved you are my enemy. And you are Jesus enemy, and he will cast you into hell. Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? Psalm:139:21 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies. Psalm:139:22
one thing for sure if someone who is title is a "lgbt" person want to seek Christ, they have to abandoned they old life... which is full of "lgbt practice life" many of them realize that is a difficult way of life, going against the flow. they must tried really hard and committed really deep for God many of them finally give up and going back to their old life... and start to blame christian for not accepting them for what they are or the christian rejecting lgbt. but the truth Christ never rejected lgbt, but Christ come for those who is sin and sick. so He can heal them
FallOut!atmyChemicalDisco.....I've seen many videos online of gays and transgenders changing back to being straight and the gender they were born, so........YEAH it's a choice!!!!!!
If someone we know and love eg. A movie star or someone in sports rapes a person do we stop loving them? We may still love the person but dislike what they have done because it's not in keeping of what you stand for. Love the person hate the sin. Man on man woman on woman = sin.
Tony Bonboni rape is an imbalance of power and therefore is harming someone in the act. Consensual love and sex between two people of the same gender is not harmful to anyone. Telling us we are sinners is harmful though. Please stop. You have no idea how much this hurts people like myself and my community.
It's harmful against god because you're choosing your own desires over him. Everybody makes mistakes and everybody sins. But it's not too late to give your life to Christ 😊
The World is our opponent, the World hates us because of Jesus Christ. I hear you talking about the christian way to deal with this. Love! But love is also being honest. Therefore you have to tell transpeople they are living in sin. Love is also being clear. Jesus saved us from sins, and we need salvation. So it doesnt help transgenders if you don t speak out against this corruption. Satan wants humanity being corrupted so he let’s people believe gender is an option. I love you brother, but just remember that Jesus always was loving and honest and true, and without compromise. And i believe you agree, but you could have pointed this out.
The Catholic Church in my country doesn't pay tax to the government, but instead to the Vatican. And the universities they own usually have the most expensive tuition fees (sometimes not worth the money)
I find your words rather condescending. The LGBTQI Community should not be looked upon as something that needs to be tolerated and 'loved' despite their 'choice of lifestyle' (not quoting Mr Yuan here, referencing the general attitude). Being LGBTQI is not a choice - 'God' made everything just the way it is. We are all from the same Light, suggesting otherwise is very damaging and suggests 'God' makes mistakes.
Shamot...God doesn't make mistakes. We are all born sinners. But it's not wrong to call sin..'sin'. And the fact that we are born sinners is NOT God's fault. There just has to come a time that we must accept the fact that God makes the rules. I don't know why He said that homosexuality is a sin and He didn't want us to live like that, but again, He makes the rules and we have the freewill to follow and strive to live according to His will, or reject and live any way we wish.
Dear Darinwaynec, the Jesus you look to is the one men have created. Your problem is you have only listened to preachers who use the Old Testament to put words into the mouth of Jesus. This is blasphemy of the worst kind. Jesus was the new wine that could not be put into old wine skins (OT). Jesus lived with people who were considered ‘sinners’ & unclean by the Pharisees (Jewish leaders). In doing so He taught us that we are a soul wrapped in useless flesh. When you define someone by the flesh - this includes their sexuality, you become Satan. Jesus rebuked Peter calling him Satan for thinking like men, not God. God did indeed create everything - including the LGBT Community. Genetic tests prove that homosexuality is something an individual is born with. Remember that Jesus came with a new message, one of love & acceptance. That’s why He was killed, because it challenged the Jewish hyerarchy. In His sacrifice all (perceived) sins are abolished. That’s not to say being Gay is a sin. It means nobody has the right to judge & condemn others. This would denigrate the greatest gift Jesus gave us - freedom! Those who do not understand this do the work of the satan. Peace.
@@gospelofthomas77thpearl22 First off, I have listened to anointed ministers, because they are just that, anointed to preach the true word of God, but I also have learned from the Holy Spirit and let it teach me as well. I am a teacher of others now, a professor in a Bible college and I know a little something about the Bible. Jesus did teach love and not to judge but he also told us to not live in sin. Reference the woman caught in adultery...'Go and sin no more.' He embraced Mary Magdalene ,who was indeed a harlot, but He also cast 7 devils out of her. He does not want us to continue living in sin. And there comes a time that we have to look at the Bible as the gauge of what God considers righteousness and what He calls sin. You can pretend that it doesn't call homosexuality sin, but it does. It's also new testament, not just old. We have to understand that God makes the rules, we either follow them or we choose not too.
“When you define someone by the flesh - this includes sexuality - you become Satan” The LGBT community define themselves by their sexuality. So it turns out you have just condemned the LGBT community. If you love God, you must give up EVERYTHING for Him - including your temptations and urges.
The LGBT Community have been ‘labelled’ by people like you as different because of their sexuality. That’s not their choice. However, in order to protect their rights they have embraced the title - based on sexual preference. I do not define anyone by the flesh - this is the virus of your kind. The kind that hate everything that isn’t like you. Give up your judgement based on lies & hatred for Him. He died for everyone to show YOU the Spirit is above & beyond the flesh.
That's what I've been saying! I don't think love is a sin, even if it's the same gender. Even though others keep saying that they will go to hell, I know they shouldn't, we should be able to have our own feelings and listen to our hearts.
Tell them to read the Bible...and make a choice. You warn them, and they cant claim ignorance. Game over. Its their choice from there on out. You did your part, if they ask for help, help them, if they scoff, wave goodbye...forever. Very simple.
Very good point Jesus was rejected. He left without giving any kind of blessings upon those who rejected Him. When He sent His disciples out 2x2 He gave instruction. If you are rejected by the Gospel shake the dust off your feet and move on. Many don't want to change their ways because the church looks so much like the world. Jesus said to come out from among them we are a peculiar people. Our light should make others wonder who we are and want what we have.
yet homophobics read the bible and stay homophobic. So Game over. Its their choice from there on out. You did your part, if they ask for help, help them, if they scoff, wave goodbye...forever. Very simple.
The bible is meant to stop sin if your a doing what the bible tells you not to do no matter what it is and don't want to stop then dont even go to church
2:36 A lot of the hurt is intentional on the part of straight Chrisitans (including those not divorced{) to stand with Pharisaical pride to shout "God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican [or homosexual]." (Luke 18:11 with added phrase) to draw attention away from the myriads of divorcees sitting in church pews daily living in violation of Matt. 5:32 "whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery." Jesus is crystal clear as to what he meant in this verse. Not once does he condemn same-sex desire or couples. NOT ONCE!!!!!!! In Matt. 8:5-13 and Luke 7:1-10, Jesus actual healed a centurian's servant. The Greek work the centurian used to describe him in παῖς (pais) which is translated as "servant." But pais does not mean “servant.” It means “lover.” In Thucydides, in Plutarch, in countless Greek sources, and according to leading Greek scholar Kenneth Dover,--an authority on ancient Greeks and their sexual lives, παῖς (pais) refers to the junior partner in a same-sex relationship. Jesus' response to the centurian was not condemnation. He praised him saying: “Truly I tell you, in no one in Israel have I found such faith. I tell you, many will come from east and west and will eat with Abraham and Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven, while the heirs of the kingdom will be thrown into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” (Matt. 8:10-12) Also, Jesus "was amazed at him [the centurion], and turning to the crowd following him, he said, 'I tell you, I have not found such great faith even in Israel.'" (Luke 7:9)
So we are suppose to love them but at the same time oppose there entire life? Think clear. If a gay person said I love you to a Christian and yet tried to push laws to tear down churches and keep you from worship and praying to God you would still say they love you? Such a foolish man trying to hold to tradition because he fears man and not God. psa.139.21-22 Do I not hate those who hate you, Lord , and abhor those who are in rebellion against you? I have nothing but hatred for them; I count them my enemies.
1988joshua i see what you mean. so we hv to put a balance here with our love for them but not forgetting the rebuking as well, like God, He passes judgement and He shows His mercy too.
The church is commanded to forsake its sins. Romans Chapter one is where God says all that must be said about our times. They are willingly ignorant. They don't do what Jesus said and cast out these devils. Pastors must protect the flock by causing unrepentant sinners to leave. Gays or straight. Do what the Bible says. God does not bless sin.
Jesus and God love everyone, and don't hate. I was born in a Cathloc family, and I was taught to accept and consider and not hate and judge. And I was scared when I came out to my family, but instead of sticking me in a homophobic camp, they loved me, and accepted me. I am now a proud lesbian and a proud Cathloc too. 🌈🌈🌈 ⛪⛪⛪❤❤❤❤❤❤ 👬👭 👬👭
If God and the Bible say that LGBTQ and same sex marriage is a sin, then I must agree with what God and the Bible say, but we can still show love and respect to people who are in sin. Loving and respecting someone don’t mean we have to agree with them
@PotHeadPandaBear Understand but I didn’t say anything about denying their rights they have. Yes we live in a free nation where LGBTQ and same second marriage is legal but that still don’t change Gods stance on homosexuality and whatever God declares right and wrong I must agree with at the end of the day. But I can still despise sin and love thy neighbor at the same time
the law kills, the spirit gives life. these folks say they are born that way, or that they oriented to the same sex. that's their business not mine. the issue is are they willing to follow Jesus on the narrow road. as with straights, most are not.
God never said anything about “LGBTQ” or rather even about Queer people or homosexuality. God certainly doesn’t ever address gay marriage. The brief mentions of homoeroticism in the Bible are in unique contextual niches that do not apply generally: rape, idolatrous pagan practices, temple prostitution. “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.” Galatians 5:22-23 NIV I appreciate that you are willing to respect the God-given dignity of Queer people but I’d invite you to consider the foundation upon which your beliefs lie.
Yes we love them and show compassion, but we shouldn't encourage and support this behaviour.. love them and lead them to God. Dont dont encourage sin,, the point IS we may have tendencies but we put God before our desire.. God his will ne done .to show our love to God we trust his word and he keeps up on the right path.. if we put all our sexual desire first than we are basically putting ourselves before God and not really trusting his word..the point is the love all, and lead them to God.. dont force and jugde. Love them as yourself and help them heal and understand why its important to trust God and put his will before our.. there a Good reason.. not to ruine your fun. But to save you and bring you to paradise. Amen YESHUA is king. Good day to you all. Peace and love God be will us always. Emmanuel.
What about teachers/pastors who embrace and accept same sex relationships, and also claim to be Christians? How can one be Christian, yet be accepting of homosexuality?
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Thank you I agree :3 I always say to myself that god chooses the bravest to be them selfs and that’s all his children and thank you this really helped me my dad pushes lgbt in the church and how there limited and my anxiety always starts to kick in so this really helped me thank you god bless you :3
The bravest people are the ones that are themselves. Typically that sentiment is applied to Queer people, especially those who brave danger to live authentically.
Jesus loves all of us calls us into repentance and to be born again unless they hear gospel truth of rather than a gospel that pleased itchy ears!!! Truth of gospel is Jesus loves you calls us to share gospel in love but in that love not fudging truth of God's word. Jesus died for me died for you truth is he said I am truth way and life his truth sets us free but he said Jesus you must be born again have renewed heart
Romans 1:26-27 New International Version 26 Because of this, God gave them over(A) to shameful lusts.(B) Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.(C) 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.(D)
Showing the right path is something that must be done in love. It is not the opportunity to relish the suffering of others or make their lives painful for not adhering to advice.
Trouble is you can tell them but if they refuse to listen then as Jesus sed wipe your feet walk away there's only so much we can do I was Gay 40 years but had encounter with God but even friends I thort were friends hate me now so......
Ginja Ninja Good for you! 2 Corinthian 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. Your proclamation and decision is between you and God. You know right from wrong, and you have made your choice, everyone here respect your choice. However, there is no guilt trip here for those standing up for righteousness after all he who knows to do right and does not do it is sinning. God has the final word for all of us. In His Majesty's Kingdom God My Creator,PJohn
Who said they are our enemies? What are you trying to stir up? I would submitt that they are the enemies of God even though God loves them but must still condemn them. As a Christian I hate sin because my God hates sin. We need to be be obvious that we reject sin, not hide and cower to it regardless of whether it offends the sinner. The world would have the Christian be tolerant and accepting to sin. Love the sinner enough to show them they are wrong, tell them the gospel truth
***** That's similar in asking why there is evil in the world. This isn't a perfect world for a reason... earth isn't heaven. And love wouldn't be real, authentic love if it was programmed. A robotic love for God would be pointless.
Так говорит Господь! Пророчество: Голубым. Кастоньезо не такой. Он герой. Хоть и был он голубой. Я вижу тебя на сквозь. Аминь. Руки убери от него. Не насилуй его. Весь мозг проел ему сначала, а потом накинулся на него, как зверь. Гнилое это все. Оставь это все. Ради Меня оставь. Не будет такого, что бы Я принял тебя. Покайся и живи так, что бы мы встретились с тобой. Я люблю тебя, не так, как вы любите друг друга. Аминь. Прощу тебя вскоре, когда раскаешься предо Мной. Я мир даю, а ты жизнь попрал. Время близко тебе, как всем впрочем. Тороплю тебя, приди ко Мне, не умирай без Меня. Аминь. Аминь. Все. 07.01.2015 г. Пророчество - Юродство: Голубым. Этот грех твой знаю Я. Ты свинья. Так говорю Я. Не ходи за Мной теперь. Покайся Мне. Выход есть. Ты герой или нет? Что делаешь ты? В пустыне мира ты засел и ждешь Меня там. А Я говорю: остановись! Ты ночью не пой. Будь со Мной. Аминь. Я - антихрист, говорю тебе. Не так это. Аминь. Я злой. Не так это. Аминь. Ты хочешь есть? Иди ко Мне. Я в любви живу у тебя. А ты злой. Понял Меня? Я знаю тебя. Аминь. Ты злое возлюбил, а Меня нет. Не гнилой - пророк Мой, а ты гнилой. Лишь малая часть у него не верна. Какая? Еда. Говорю всем. Пиши, что есмь, а ты хочешь есть. Духота... В фильме было. Это они: сатанисты земли. Убили Меня и думают: что Я спасен был ими. А не то. Возомнили о себе: крутые они. Я герой. Аминь. Я знаю вас всех: кто насилует детей. Грех твой вскрою, что бы стыдно было. Аминь. Я знаю всех. Аминь. 23.07.2015 г. + Похоть: Ты злой. Я герой, а ты нет. Ты раздет, а Я да, одет. Минус ты, а Я плюс. Сойдемся вместе? В любви не живи, раз ты такой - голубой. Я знаю тебя, не любишь Меня. Аминь. Черви вылезли из него теперь за это слово, а ты хочешь есть и спать, насиловать себя членом своим. Аминь. Я могу так сказать или нет? Бог Я или кто? Ты бог себе. А Я нужен тебе? Нет, скажешь ты. А Я с тобой, не умер еще. Аминь. 23.07.2015 г. Пророчество - Юродство: Голубым. Ты кто такой, что перечишь Мне? Я вижу тебя, не греши. Куличи купи Мне. Аминь. И отнеси на паперть. Я там буду стоять и петь о любви. Ты злое забудь. Покайся Мне во всем и не делай греха. Аминь. Ты злой. Я вижу тебя везде. Похоть твоя - не знает границ. Аминь. Ты хочешь жить или грешить? Я знаю тебя всего. ЛГБТ - убери, не фанатей. Фанатик Я или ты? Фантик ты без Меня. А Я люблю тебя по настоящему. Убудь. Ты злой. Вниз. Там много таких было. Аминь. И сей час есть. 23.07.2015 г. Источник: Портал Пророчеств.
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This topic has been on my heart for a long time now. I've always been pro-lgbt but since I started to get closer with God and my faith grew deeper, it's like my entire mindset changed on this matter. My sister is Christian but also lgbt, and when she asked if I supported it I said no. She got mad and said that's not Christlike. When I told her that I can't support something that goes against God, she told I am homophobic because I don't support it. I told her that just because I am against it DOES NOT mean I'm condemning anyone.
I know I will face many things like these, as I am only still 16, and will surrounded by people who identify with the lgbt community.
Please pray for me to respond in a Godly way to sensitive matters like these
I pray in the name of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior that He gives you the wisdom of Solomon and evangelistic tongue of Paul to speak the truth in love to those around you, especially the LGBTQIAP+ community 🙏🏼🙏🙏
You did the right thing. No hating the person or the sin. Praying for her and so sorry you had to endure that
That's fine as long as you don't try changing others.
You said nothing wrong. Many in the lgbtq+ has been hurt by the church for centuries. Anything that’s perceived, as attacking them they will respond. In the West, one’s sexuality’s seen as someone’s identity. To say that actions associated with that is a sin (Rm 1), they perceive it as a threat to their existence. But, continue to show grace to her, keep the door open, be there for her. You can’t change anyone only God can.
@@Topg1 the problem is that god doesn’t change gay people. No one actually buys the “we love the sinner, hate the sin” nonsense. You are either cool with us or you’re not.
Real Christians will love all people.
Watching them perish isn't loving though. Need a balance.
And love is warning them of what will happen if they don't turn from their sin and trust in Jesus Christ. Hate is accepting their sin knowing the punishment that they will suffer for it. True love tells hard truth. That unless they repent and come to Jesus Christ, there will be gnashing of teeth and no rest in the spiritual death that is to come. Love warns them, that they may be pulled to safety from the destruction that is to come
yes we also love homophobics
@@michaelnewzealand1888 no I don't want to see homophobics perish as its not loving.
Love is not the issue. Romans 1 "For this cause God gave them up to vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another... I can love gays but that is what the Bible says. Call it homophobic. The belief is that it is unnatural and take up the argument with the Apostle Paul. So was the Apostle Paul not a real Christian? If a Christian sees a chain smoker, does mean that he does not let him know that he could get lung cancer or takes cocaine, will he not warn that person? So yes, I would not hate that person but I might show this is what the Bible says. Is that hate? Let them read it.
Me looking for the gay hate comments realizing this is one of the only places I won't be told I'm going to hell
As a Christian I'm so sorry if any Christian has condemnd you...
God holds us to the standards we hold other
Jesus said in John 8:7 “He that is without sin cast the first stone at her.” Everyone’s made mistakes and we’re not any different from you. Just wanted to let you know that you’re loved. ❤️
Kellie it is not a matter going to hell the focal point to realize like a parent who has a rebellious kid who cannot stand his parents They allow them to living on their own knowing they will wreck and ruin their life. Like the story of the prodigal son the father allowed him to go away and sleep with prostitutes even though it hurt the Father Grace is greater than our sin. Yes, there are a lot of homophobic people but there are also people who read Romans 1 and realize that Paul is saying certain things are destructive. Are the words hateful? It may seem that way but it is the truth.
Jesus Christ loves you bro
"God gave us not the spirit of fear, but of a spirit of love, and of power, and of a sound mind." (2 Timothy 1:7) Even when the situation seems impossible, we have to remain clinging on to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit no matter what happens. Yesterday was such a tragic day. I shall pray for the lost and affected.
I still pray for lost homophobics
I am an 88 year old gay man who has never had a gay relationship my whole life because of the confused LGBT message I got from my church.
Yes, I was married to a woman for 18 years, had four children, and, of course, it broke up because of whom I actually was!
While I am happy with my life and the direction I took with it, if I had a child who was gay, I would want a more "Jesus" approach to acceptance.
Unfortunately our churches merely tolerate gay people and until they step away from their mere "toleration" approach,
our churches will continue their "anti-Jesus" approach to outreach!
Do it the Jesus way. LOVE THEM ANYWAY. -_- It can be difficult but it's simple.
love is never hard.
People need SPICE in their life. SPICE and Jesus love.
only hate makes things difficult.
The gay community is not blinded...this guy is... he is teaching institutionalized homophobia... Jesus never spoke of this.... wake up!
how is love difficult?
Yes, love them.
People confuse loving them with accepting their sins as okay. That's not loving them, that's just ignoring their problems.
Does God ignore our sin or does he address it and then help us heal? He helps us heal. But he also doesn't shower hatred on us because of our sin. He lovingly guides us to himself so he can heal our brokenness. It takes submission. And submission in that way cannot be forced. Only God can change hearts. Only God can take a broken soul and make it whole again. So let us pray for them and share God's word with them. But know that God is the only one who can change their hearts and minds. That's not something we can do.
yes we must never accept homophobia
@@pastorbri what do you mean when you say homophobia?
@@nathanoosterhuis6232 the same as the definition on line.
homophobia
/ˌhɒməˈfəʊbɪə,ˌhəʊməˈfəʊbɪə/
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noun
dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people.
@@pastorbri yeah, which true Christians are not guilty of.
@@bean7496 ONLY religious folk get homophobic, real Christians reject the homophobic lifestyle.
This is what most Christians see wrong. Loving your enemy doesn't mean you agree with them. No, you disagree on things that are not of God. Because telling them that sin or wickedness is good is not loving your enemies. Sure your can be thoughtful in how to present how it is. (Matthew 10:16 "I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.) If you love your enemies then you tell them what will save them from hell. Don't sugarcoat sin.
N Oost
If you love them, then you wouldn’t deny them the right to have their relationships recognized via the state. You actually have naught but contempt for them, and want their lives to be miserable, simply because they are different than you.
B K
Recognition from the state has nothing to do with this in my opinion. Everyone can do as they please in that matter. It comes down to personal choice. I don't want people to be miserable and obstruct their choice. My gfs mother has a female partner. I don't hate them. I like them, because they are nice people. I don't go around telling that they should not be or that they should be miserable. If it comes to it I will share my beliefs. If you read about Jesus and how he spent time with prostitutes and tax collector. People that were despised by the community. That's how I want to present myself, but never dilute what I deem truth or sin.
There is no such thing as sin...now grow up
The Bible is nothing but trash plan & simple
@R H
The only delusional people are you guys who buttfuck each other.
The question is: what does the Bible say about this subject and how did Paul tell the Corinthian church to deal with sexual sin?
Hmm I might be mistaken but isn’t Paul talking to Corinthian believers who are indulging in sexual sin? I think we ought to treat non believers who indulge in sexual sin and professing believers who indulge in sexual sin differently.
The reason I make this argument is that Jesus often treats non believers who indulge in sexual sin by pushing them gently towards the gospel such as in John 8:1-11 where there was a woman convicted of sexual immorality.
However, when Paul talks to the corinthian church, he is talking to people who claim to be believers and hence he must be more strict and tells them to have nothing to do with people who claim to be believers but still indulge in sexually immorality.
“I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people- not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people. What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.””
1 Corinthians 5:9-13
And so I think when dealing the LGBT community, we ought to be loving and gentle and push them to the gospel rather than condemning them unless they are claiming to be believers which then we should do the latter.
Lol hopefully im understanding your comment correctly and that im not making a comment on something you also agree with haha
Amen and Amen.
@@ashleycheung2315 I agree to this! The Corinthians had already a brief background of who God is. They knew him! Yet they chose to cling into doing unrighteous works.
@@paololopez3951 and homophobia is unrightious
@@ashleycheung2315 cause cutting off your gay friends is gonna bring them closer to god. sure. if anything, it's gonna make them turn away from him i think. but hey, what do i know?
How should you respond? Be respectful & understanding towards people especially if their sexual orientation doesn’t cause harm to themselves or others. You have no business judging them.
homophobics love to judge
@@pastorbri true
As a Christian, I do love everyone, including the LGBT community. We need to understand God's definition of love instead following the world's definition of love. Actually, their sexual orientation may harm others especially if they have mothers and fathers who have strong faith in God. Ultimately their worldly sexual orientation does hurt God's feelings because you would reject God's true identity for you.
@@christiansnaturestudio6599 These are some fair points 👍
@@christiansnaturestudio6599 lmao i can't believe you said their sexual orientation 'hurt God's feelings'
I do not take this as a positive message towards LGBT. How many times is he going to say we're lost? I'm trans, I'm not lost. I didn't even start to find myself until I stopped trying to bury my true identity and started to embrace who I really am. I'm not lost, I'm not broken or sick. I'm simply different than the majority, God doesn't have an issue with it, man does.
Indeed
God absolutely had an issue with it. You are deluding yourself by thinking you can change your sex. It’s simply not possible.
@@happycamper3561 How are you going to tell me I'm deluding myself for my beliefs when you don't even know what they are? I'm not the issue here, you're just getting hung up on the politics and activist while you don't even understand what it truly means to be trans
@@somberaffair2316 with all due respect, every single cell of your body has your gender coded in the strands of your dna. You are never going to be able to change your biology. You can try to change your appearance and even remove/change your organs. But your gender is assigned to you by God. You are living a lie if you think you can change that.
@@happycamper3561 With all due respect, it is silly to tell someone you don't even know that they are living a lie. Not that you care to hear, but I was living the lie before embracing who I am. It didn't matter how hard I tried, I was never going to be a masculine person. I was spiritually dead until I stopped rejecting myself and started embracing who I am. I completely suppressed all trans thoughts for 95%+ of my life up until last year, at 28 years old. The only desires or interest I had were weed and video games, I struggled to hold down jobs, I had to suppress how I wanted to interact with my girlfriend, and got by on fantasies of running away and embracing my suppressed identity. Life felt hopeless, the only things I had any type of interest in were killing me spiritually, and I definitely tried to get into more productive things. I would get addicted to anything that let me escape reality, I went 30 days sober and was pretty much just dead the entire time. After 30 days of healthy eating, exercise, and working at a job I liked, where I was excelling, I still felt dead. I didn't start to come back to life until I started taking estrogen, and now I'm starting to develop a personality. I'm starting to enjoy just being here, my anxiety has started to get better instead of worse, I no longer feel like drugs and video games are a requirement for my life. I'm happier, more stable, more productive. Taking estrogen has done nothing but good for me, and I have common sense, I'm well aware I wasn't born a cis woman, I'm well aware there are biological differences. Are you aware that there are surgeries and treatments that lead to me having a more comfortable existence? Why do you think God is against that? He seemed to be more against suppressing the personality he gave me.
I'm a Christian and respect everyone
Yes respect is important, but tolerate sin not ✝️
Thanks. I was trying to figure out how to do this as a Christian.
just say homophobia is a sin
@Mrs Pleasants sorry ur wrong, a phobia is NOT A FEAR!!!!!! A phobia is an irrational hate, dislike or fear or all 3......Got that?
According to the WORD homophobia IS a sin. I did not write the WORD and you (no one) can change what it says no matter how much you try to rationalise why you think it is wrong. That does not mean you can't repent (turn away) from sin. That is what you should be preaching...not condoning what is clearly sinful in both the Torah and the New Testament.
@Mrs Pleasants since homophobia is a sin, that does NOT mean I need to agree with you or partake in your sins. Because you may want to remember that grace does not abound if we sin more.
Therefore, you should not be teaching that sinful behaviour is acceptable...rather teach repentance from it.
@@JKALEDGENDZ than i dont need that god for my life
Jobe god doesn’t exist, he’s just a fairytale character. Homosexuality isn’t a sin, is a natural variant of human sexual orientation. Nothing wrong with that
They are not our enemies
Jesus says love your enemies
...
Our true enemy is the dark force of Satan. So many people do things that please the enemy, and not God. They act against followers of Jesus the Messiah, not necessarily willingly, but because they are blinded by this evil, fallen world. We love all people because we are not any better than they are. Not one is righteous (see Romans 3:10), which means there is nothing to lord over anyone. Our own kind is not our enemy, rather, a form of earthly opposition use by the enemy of our hearts, Satan (aka "the devil"). We love people, even those who oppose us, because we are all subject to God's wrath because of sin. Those who realize they are flawed, sinful, and have no eternal life in our own power, can be saved by grace. Jesus called all to repent (change your mind, in this case, to view sin as evil and recognize we are in need of salvation), and ask for salvation. God loves all people, and wants us all to live for Him and be forgiven, saved and heaven bound.
homophobia is an enemy
It's funny how we Christians seem so hell bent on blaming ourselves for the hatred the darkness has for us. As if they want us to build relationships with them. They hate us for what we stand for and believe. Jesus was the perfect expression of Love and Goodness from the Father and you see what they did to Him. He said the world HATES Him and so they will hate us. Why do we keep trying to figure out how to get the world to stop hating us?
Granted we should certainly not spew hateful words towards them and not ATTACK them, but trying to buddy up with them is a fools errand and will just force us to compromise and water down the Truth making us an impotent laughing stock.
FenderSchonJPX *Amen brother!
FenderSchonJPX I agree to some extent. While compromising the bible is a symptom of loving our reputation more than Jesus is definitely the wrong way to go, "buddying up" or building friendships with those who oppose us is not a fools errand. Befriending our 'enemies' and building relationships with those who oppose us, can create a mutual trust and respect, and eventually tear down walls that might usually be seen as hatred had it not been for friendship.
Keep in mind, we too are sinners.
I believe Jesus died for all sin, and all people. I also believe Jesus sent us to minister to all, with no partiality.
There is no soul too broken for God's grace, and if we not be the messengers/vessels then who? So yes, we should reach out to the lost. Period.
So in summary:
Jesus died for homosexuals. Jesus died for anti-christian organisations. Jesus died for ISIS. Jesus died for all people.
"Trying to buddy up to them would be as foolish as making friends with ISIS." First you pretend you have the ability to speak on behalf of gay people. Then you trash them. Then you go "Boo hoo hoo I'm such a victim because of them". This is what you call your Christian "witness". Right?
dgbx6 Not only did I NOT pretend to speak for them, I did not trash them. I just identify with their hatred towards Christians.
You whine like a little girl about us going boo hoo when they try to destroy peoples lives, livelihood and freedom because they won't bake a cake or participate in their perversion.
Who's the whiny little cry baby now. Except the problem with a crybaby in an adult body is the amount of damage and destruction they can do. How much hatred do you have to have in your heart to want to wipe out someone's life just because they don't want to participate in your lifestyle?
But you are just like all liberals. you project everything.
According to the Teachings of the Bible "All active Homosexuals and Homosexuality Sympathizers (applies to LGBTQ+) are going to Hell for an Eternity, Unless the come to full repentance and God Forgives them".
There’s a lot of self-righteousness when it comes to speaking about lgbt. I don’t like how culturally we ostracize it like it’s greater than any other sin. It makes me angry to see Christians hold people to standards that they could not reach themselves it’s not right. And before anyone says they’re not true Christians, hold your family accountable. They are christians like us do not separate yourselves when you can teach them.
Christians do STRUGGLE with sin, but do not embrace nor publicly present it as an example of godliness.
We aren't enemies, nor are we lost. Though do try and listen to lgbt members. You may learn and understand something new about us.
Hear ! Hear !
People seem to forget John 3:16...
It doesn’t matter if your Gay,Straight,Bisexual,Transgender, or Lesbian
Let people love whoever they love!
After all, Christianity is about loving the person you want to be with for the rest of your life, right?
I-love-poke-tips...well, it matters to God. He makes the rules.
darinwaynec
God lets us live the life that makes us happy!
❤️
@@i-love-poketips1662 How did you come to that conclusion?
Dahveed_Brid Well, I guess it’s just me.I feel that everyone should live their life’s with happiness.I hate it when people discriminate against certain groups just because of what a
10,000 year old book said.You can live your your way and I would like to live my life my way!
@@i-love-poketips1662 , that's what Satan wants you to believe. Satan is fighting for every soul he can get . This is his agenda to battle against god by destroying his most beloved creation.
The Bible says a lot of things that don't seem to make sense in our world today, especially about women and about slavery. But the Bible also says signs and wonders that follow them that believe. If anyone here can work a miracle for me to show me that my lifestyle is sin and to save me...let me know! And if, as I expect, no one is willing or able, then why should I believe the bit about condemnation again?
If you are a true Christian then you SHOULDN'T SUPPORT THE LGBTQ. Hating is a different thing, we know that the Bible says "Hate the sin not the sinner" so HATE THE SIN. STAND AGAINST HOMOSEXUALITY. Even if you don't want to speak against such sins ATLEAST DON'T SUPPORT IT
Homosexuals are turned off by most Christians because we (speaking from experience) would rather judge non-christians for their sin than let the spirit kill our sin. Once He begins killing sin in us, we will begin to look appealing to those lost in their sin. John's recent sermon Make War: a pastor and his people in the battle against sin, really seems to apply here.
Lynn Grant Amen!
Mr. Grant Yes. Loving Christians turned me to God. Not the hateful ones.
Mr Grant sorry for the late comment but it is partly because of how many Christians behave that is the reason why I no longer want to be part of the faith. But I do hold this against or blame all Christians for this as a whole group of people cannot be blamed for the actions of some people
@@amandacogger7014 Judge a philosophy or worldview on its own merit, not by some people you disagree with who happen to say they believe that worldview.
@@lynngrant7 that I can respect thank you for the reply
how can their sexuality be considered sin if they claim to be born that way, or to be naturally oriented to the same sex? Jesus is the master of the obvious. Gay folks who love Jesus and want to follow him on the narrow road? they are part of the body of christ.
Gay people are children of God and that is exactly how Christ would see them.
Start by not calling it a community. Is there an adultery community? Stop conforming.
My God is too wise to be mistaken.
homophobics sadly are mistaken.
And you sir, are a false prophet corrupting scripture. Read romans 1.
@@JClovesAC 1 Cor 5 :9-13
pastor brian You don’t need to call people names who disagree with you.
yet homophobics mistake God.
Billy Graham made a statement in regards to how to approach any person in life, “It is my job to Love and God’s job to judge”. That is what I do. As a Christian, I just choose to love everyone. God doesn’t need my help for anything.
I was a Baptist Pastor and missionary and I am gay. That has been medically proven. Being gay is NOT a choice. The Baptist Church put me through 13 years of reparative therapy including electronic shock therapy. The church have also chemically castrated gays. When all that doesn't work I was told I was not welcome to even attend church. What's more I never was welcome to attend. I am not sexually active. I am not broken because God created me gay.
I was married to my very accepting wife for 51 years before she recently passed. She had MS for 26 years and I cared for her all that time. She was not able to stand or walk (ambulate) for the last 15 years. God creates some people gay. Its NOT wrong.
You sound like a really nice guy and I wish there were more like you. I can't imagine being gay and going to a Baptist church. God bless your dear and understanding wife who you clearly loved very much. You are who you are and I'm afraid so are those blinkered people who can't accept you. In contrast though, there are many believers who will accept you. Rely on those people and pray for the others in the clique of bigotry.
God is not the author of confusion, nor does God make anyone sin. Homosexuality is a sin, and the Bible states so in many places. We must not identify with our sins, but find our identity in Christ instead. A Christian who was a liar doesn't say 'I'm a liar Christian" nor does a Christian who formerly practiced adultery say "I'm an adulterer Christian". "I'm a gay Christian shouldn't ever be said." If you are a Christian, your identity is in Christ.
1 Corinthians 6: 9-11
9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
So basically, he says, we love you,... but because you are without God, and because you are LGBT, you need saved. So that's still far from loving LGBT people as equals, which I struggle to believe Christianity can do.
But what about Christian members of the LGBTQ community?
Queer Christians are also children of God and full humans worthy of love and dignity.
If you’re concerned about church responsibility and responsibility within your community then there are two scenarios.
The first and most likely is that the Queer Christians do not consider the anti-Queer interpretation of scripture as valid(as I don’t). In that scenario you are not going to be able to convict someone of wrongdoing if they have no sense that they are doing anything wrong. Christian history shows us this, people often resist even minor conversions on individual principles even under pain of death.
As Martin Luther said: “unless I can be convinced by scripture and good sense, I can do no other.”
People are going to live out their convictions.
So you have two potential options, splitting the church and ostracization over interpretations isn’t going to change people’s minds so you can either present your interpretation and leave it at that or you and your church community can engage in an interpretational discussion.
In the case of a different scenario where the Queer person doesn’t care what the Bible says then you should be careful because there could be many reasons why. It could simply be an uncertainty of faith as is common with many new Christians or new members of a church and any heavy hand on doctrine could be harsh, unwelcoming and counter productive. Many people come into churches unsure of many things and a theology lesson can often leave a bad taste in people’s mouth and push them away. So approaching that on a case by case basis is preferred though it’s not unreasonable to explain your beliefs so long as you aren’t trying to impose that in a way that feels targeted.
As a trans woman, Christian, president of one of the largest transgender support groups in the country, and a leader in the local LGBT community, I know a great many LGBT that want to seek Christ, but have been made to feel or told outright that they were not welcome by a church. I truly believe that we will all have to face God and account for what we have done, and there are 2 things that top my list that I would not want to be guilty of when I do. 1 - Rejecting Jesus. He told us plainly that nobody goes to the father but by him, and if we reject him, he will reject us before the father. 2 - Calling myself a Christian and as such, being entrusted to open the door and welcome ALL who come seeking him, only to be guilty of slamming the door in their faces saying they do not belong because they con't conform to my ideals. I truly fear for these people who think they are living Godly lives when that day comes.
melanieshub trans women? so what does "thou shalt not lie" mean to you?.. pretending to be a women when really your a man?? intresting..
Viki Tofa That’s not how it works. This woman really is a woman. She’s not a man pretending to be a woman.
@@xTwilightWolvesxonly kind of trans woman there is is a man pretending
God is also wrath. Tired of lukewarm, milk toast opinions. There is truth in this message...but it's only half truth. Love is ultimate but don't forget the attributes of God. He is perfect In love. He is also PERFECT in judgement and wrath. Need more preachers with backbone, not just what people want to hear. The truth is only hate to those who hate the truth.
Ryan Maes
Romans 13:9 - 'For the commandments "You shall not commit adultery," "You shall not murder," "You shall not steal," "You shall not bear false witness," "You shall not covet," and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely "You shall love your neighbour as yourself."'
Don't push people away from Christ. All are welcome to come to Jesus and repent. It is not your job nor your right to condemn others, especially as a sinner yourself. The commandment to all believers is to love. To disagree with that is to disagree with the Bible. God bless you.
ProMaxElite you can love but you also need to convict sinners as well as Christians who struggle with sins because Love alone won’t get you into heaven
The holy spirit convicts! Not us. It's mot our job to change, punish, or convict anyone. Its our job to witness. Tell the truth IN LOVE!
Spicy Mobb We are saved through faith, not through work. “He has saved us and called us to a holy life-not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace" (2 Timothy 1:9).
God desires all men to be saved. Therefore we as Christians need to spread the gospels and the truths to the sinners. We are not in a position to judge, or to convict. Love from God alone will get you into heaven.
Ryan Maes the wrath of God was satisfied on the cross. If it wasn't then why did christ die? All wrath was poured out on Him, when God looks at all persons, he sees the blood of his son and that settles it.
I was denounced as an abomination when I was NINE YEARS OLD in a Church of Christ.
Imagine how I feel about xtians now.
Me being a gay Christian:Christians say I can’t be gay and love god I will raise my kids in church I’m getting baptized soon and already sent my life to Christ once at home and planned to do it at church but COVID happened buttt I’m gay so who cares that’s your logic
Lol a “gay Christian”
It is not respecting a gay person to tell them that the only way to heaven is to deny their essence and very core of their being. To tell a gay person that they must never ever fall in love with the person they desire, to tell them that they must live a life of celibacy (which leads to loneliness and depression) until death. And that if they get to heaven after that life of complete isolation and lack of a relationship with another human being, that when they get to heaven, they will have to continue being alone is unfair to the extreme.
Ask any married couple, "How do you two view life in heaven..?" They will always tell you about sharing it with "Their" children and "each other" ... That isn't even a possible for a person who has zero desire or affection or connection to the opposite sex. To tell them that all your remaining years on earth must be void of what we are put on this earth to do. "love one another" is insane. and to tell them after death and going to heaven for "being an incomplete person void of relationship and the God given gift of sex" That they must now look forward to an eternity in heaven with more denying your most loving feelings about a special someone" . That sounds like an eternity in hell to me. I cannot imagine not being able to love who my heart calls me to in heaven" . Is this what they mean by "in heaven as it is on earth"..
As a child, I had not acted on any homosexual feelings. (no sex) . but God allowed me to be bullied every single day. I was clinically depressed and suicidal because of these bullies. If Heaven ask us to deny love for another, are bullies in heaven going to be waiting to put me down. No one ever addresses this very real question. How is an eternity in heaven going to be for someone who is attracted to the same sex, but never acts on it and or committing the sexual sin..? To me it sounds like a continuation of the extreme loneliness I experience on earth.
If I"m going to be alone in heaven, without my beloved one that I spent 60 years with on earth. Who am I going to get a sense of contentment from.? Who am I going to talk to in heaven..?
what is heaven going to be like for the "good, abstinent gay servant of Christ..?" The bible talked about eunuchs, made in the womb, made by man, made by self. Nowhere in the bible does it say that eunuchs are an abomination. (is it the distinction that eunuchs do not commit the sex sin..?) . What about the sin of self mutilation ..?(of the temple of Christ)
I would rather enjoy all the happiness, companionship, learning, growing in a good relationship with someone I admire and love, (for next 50 years) . Than give it up only to expect it will be just the same in heaven. BTW Christopher the scientist know the cause of AIDS and it isn't HIV. HIV is a retrovirus and they attack hard, you either die or heal. It is impossible for a retrovirus to lie dormant for 10 years. Ask any honest virologist. AIDS is a syndrome my friend. Syndromes are a series of symptoms. Did you know that developed AZT (dr Gallo) to be used to treat Cancer patients. (funny thing) all ... let me repeat.. ALL of the patients developed kaposi sarcoma. (those little purple/black lesions) . Just one "AIDS symptom" caused by AZT. INTERFERON (which is chemo therapy) destroys the micro-biome and that is where your immune system resides. So now we have (2) symptoms being caused by the drugs they say will treat the disease. Since HIV is not the cause, and they are giving HIV patient that cause them to develop the symptoms in the syndrome called AIDS. What do you make of that.
Go to Pubmed.gov and look up the 100's of studies on HIV/AIDS/HepB vaccine. Search: HepB vaccine linked to onset of AIDS.... Don't look up link to HIV because the scientific community knows that HIV is not the cause. Gallo is hailed as the biggest fraud in the Viral/Medical community. It doesn't exist. Millions of people died because they had been convince that "HIV" was going to eventually kill them. So these victims took the prescribed treatments that led to each of the symptoms that eventually killed them. This is a culling of man. All of the recent studies point to following Genesis 1:29-30, This is the perfect diet for perfect health and healing. Only seed bearing plants. That excludes GMO's because they do not bear a usable seed that will germinate. No grains because they cause intestinal permeability. ONLY FRESH LOCAL ORGANIC PRODUCE AND HERBS IF YOU WANT TO HEAL. Listen to what the bible told us in the beginning and get off of the drugs that are causing your body to breakdown and die. As a christian that is also Gay...I speak the truth that God showed me. Contact me if you want references, I have given lectures on the subject of healing thru pure eating and gratitude. Healing begins the moment you believe that HEALING IS POSSIBLE, and not until.
Rob K to address your concerns about heaven, I think you are completely misunderstanding what heaven is and will be like. Here in this life we are plagued with sin, in Jeremiah God says that the human heart is desperately sick, we are all sinners and deserve Gods wrath, however we have a great hope because Jesus' death on the cross took God's wrath off us along with our sin and gave us the right to become children of God! Now all of us still suffer the disease of sin in this life until death or until Christ return when our salvation is revealed. Not to say that we should live by sin, not at all! But by living in Christ we can rule over our sin and have life to the FULLEST and he will sanctify us in the spirit day by day and be our help in our struggles. However one day God will heal us completely from the disease of sin and we will be free from it once and for all. Free to serve God and we will desire what he desires and everything we do will be out of love for our God! People in heave will also not be married but we will all be the children of God as brothers and sisters with our Father. None of us will have a husband or wife, nor do I think we will desire to do so. There also certainly will be no bullies in heaven because we will all love God with all our heart soul and mind and we will be free from our sin to completely love each other as well. Bullies in heaven is unthinkable. Loniness in heaven is unthinkable. Sinful desires, guilt or shame will be foreign to heaven. We will know fully and be fully known by God and all God's people! Now Jesus came that you and me can have life to the fullest, eternal life, which begins here on earth. He prescribed a way of living that is best for his people and is right. Not that will always be easy but he will help you to live in his ways. God did not speak to you because what you say is contrary to his word. A homosexual lifestyle is contrary to what he said and so is contrary to the fullness of life you can have in Christ. Homosexuality is sin and it would be hateful in fact to lead you astray from that fact because I know and believe that the life God gives is the only way to give you complete joy and the only way you will be completely satisfied and have the eternal life he gives in this life and in the life to come.
So like the Eunuchs that were made in the womb, gay people that were made in the womb, must deny their desire to share their lives with the person they love and live a completely lonely and sexless life to get into heaven..? and not have thoughts and desires because that will keep them out of heaven..? I'm curious about the thoughts and desires my heterosexual counterpart has when he looks a a woman and says, "I want to spend my life with this person and there has to be a sexual chemistry..? Won't those desires and thoughts that lead him to want marriage cause him to sin..? "He who even looks at a woman with lust in his heart has sinned.." Why is it that straight men are praised for desiring a woman..? (a clear sin) (why does the church rejoice at the announcement of plans to get married and have children, to have children you have to have thought about sex with a woman) . that is sinful. Why is that ok for the heterosexual and not the homosexual to think about sex that leads to marriage..? I think people are just denying reality and human emotions that come from God. There is a time for everything, says the bible. Why are the rules of love different for gay people..?
Rob K eunuchs are not at all the same thing as homosexuality. And yes we must deny the desires of our sinful flesh everyday, every single one of us because we are all sinners. There is also a completely clear distinction between lust and natural good sexual desire for the one you are married to. If a heterosexual, or homosexual, goes around burning with sexual desires and lust after someone who they are not married to, not that homosexual marriage is ok, then that is wrong and no one should be praising it because it is sin. However, a marriage between a man and a women and sex in that relationship is a good and wonderful gift from God and is in no way sin. I have no delusions that experiencing homosexual desires or emotions would be an extreme struggle. But the cost of following Jesus is giving everything we have. The Bible says "the Kingdom of Heaven is like a treasure hidden in the field, which a man found, and hid. In his joy, he goes and sells all that he has, and buys that field." We must sell all we have and gain Jesus! He is the ultimate treasure and the ultimate joy!
So you're saying that anyone who has never had a desire to marry a woman, and has only has a desire to marry a man must deny the desire that God said is good. It would be a sin for a homosexual to marry a woman because of the deception and lie. A homosexual cannot honestly enter a holy union with a woman if he is not attracted to her. So are you saying that Homosexuals must deny all hope of having a relationship with the only mate that they honestly feel an attraction for...? And Why would God design men to be visually attracted and then deny any kind of hope for a life long marriage and loving relationship...? Doesn't seem fair that a loving man can't follow his natural attractions. Especially if he only wants to spend his life loving another man. Isn't that the golden rule..?
Rob K It’s all one massive misinterpretation. The bible doesn’t say that homosexuals are bad. The Bible says that men lying with men as with a woman, is sinful. That’s not the same thing as having a romantic relationship with someone same-sex yet never having sex.
Some of "these people" already have a relationship with Jesus. Just because you can't understand that doesn't mean they're wrong. It's time to mature your theology.
Its amazing how the LGBT know only about "love others" and all sorts of things about love...they can even quote scriptures about love. Let's go to the foundation of love. Am interested to know, if you're from LGBTQ please, what is your perspective about what "love" is? I'll appreciate the feedback
Well that really depends. Love comes in many forms. But assuming you emna romantic love, here is my take.
The feeling of being comfortable with someone, and the feeling of wanting to be with that person. That is a general idea of Love. Notice how I didn't bind my definition to any genders. Now, to dive deeper, romantic love is what I said before, plus the added idea of feeling like you are yourself with that person, and you want them to be happy. That is my idea of love. If a Man and a Woman are capable of having both platonic and romantic love with each other, why can't a Man and a Man or a Woman and a Woman do the same?
No. What is bible love? It is kindness, mercy, and correcting people when they hurt themselves, because God is a father.
Love is a complicated thing with many factors; commitment, partnership, care, aid, support. Love is a feeling and an action, the many factors are intertwined.
Love is similar to any other large familiar concept, human words lack the capacity to fully encapsulate its meaning. Much of the poetry in almost every language has a significant portion of it dedicated to love; because it’s not a mystery we see it every day, and yet we don’t understand it.
I recall the first time I fell in love, I spent a substantial amount of time worrying if I’d developed some sort of mental illness.
Thanks for asking! It is about bearing one another's burdens, rejoicing with those who rejoice, mourning with those who mourn, sharing your bread with the hungry, and visiting the sick, greeting one another with a holy kiss (ok, well at least a hug), give to those who ask and lend and expecting nothing back.
Should the church excommunicate a professing Christian who still practices homosexual relationship?
loving your enemy literally means they are your opponent, they are opponents to truth. It doesn't stop your love, but understand that love is a one way street until the Holy Spirit softens their hearts and converts their souls.
yes - I believe the premise itself is wrong- homosexuality is not sin if someone is born that way, or naturally oriented to the same sex.
God said man for women Not women for women no THE DEVIL IS PERVETING WHAT GOD INTENDED TO BE GOOD
God said man for women Not women for women no THE DEVIL IS PERVETING WHAT GOD INTENDED TO BE GOOD
@@otherworld11 sin is natural; animals eat each other, tornadoes, strychnine- all natural. Your argument is technically mute: you are claiming natural is good and God approved. It is not.
How do you even know gays are going to hell? Christians are in idolatry. They worship a system Jesus did not create and they celebrate pagan holidays.
Very sensitive topic. How do we respond Biblically simultaneously showing the Love of Christ?
we need to think more on how to respond to homophobics as christians
It's clear that the Devil is using you and it's sad. You really need to repent or you'll learn one day or the other.
@@d.j.wellington I know, satan uses all homophobics to lie in his name. So It's clear that the Devil is using you and it's sad. You really need to repent or you'll learn one day or the other. Be too late then though, still ur choice.
@Greg Jacques Lucifer's Jizz Gargler you do know levitical law is dead to christians, well so God said over 35 times in the NT?
@@d.j.wellington The devil is using you
I hate being Christian and bisexual, everyone always thinks it’s a choice, like you really think I chose to be illegal in 74+ countries, you really think I chose for my parents to disown me simply for being bi? I like I can’t just stop being bi, I didn’t want this it’s not fair :(
I wish I can know God and Jesus the way Christopher knows him. I messed my life up and need God to fix me so bad.
@@charaabbeytonak6774 Hi Chara. Please pray that I can pay back my debts and that I live the rest of my life in a manner pleasing to God, my parents and that serves other people - by alleviating suffering, bringing hope, joy and leading them to Christ. Thank you! May God bless you!
Thank you michael reeves
Lmfaoo he does kinda look like him
This comment section:
90% sensible Christians
5% atheists
4% Homosexuality is okay (it is)
1% GAYS ARE RICH BILLIONAIRES HAHAHAHA
homophobia is not ok
Yeah no
Actually if you read Romans, homosexuality is a judgement on a proud heart
Brok Homz What is your comment in relation to?
Brok Homz Really, interesting. What Verses?
Amir Valdera Romans 1
Brok Homz Ah, Romans 1:30. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, PROUD, and boastful.
They invent new ways of sinning, and they disobey their parents. Thanks, bro. I forgot.
Brok Homz Actually, that's a gross misunderstanding of Romans 1, and in general a fallible point.
hate the sin, love the person. That simple. I don't condone homosexuality but love them enough to tell them that it isn't right to be doing.
God gave them up to a reprobate mind. Skipping over that one....
yes homophobics have yes
You need to change church doctrine then. It clearly states you must be straight to be a Christian because of the scriptures in the bible calling homosexual behavior an abomination to god.
Love the sinner, not the sin.
Being gay isn't a choice, just like being straight isn't a choice. No one wakes up one morning in their adolescence and says "You know, I find guys and girls equally attractive, but I've decided I'm going to pursue relations with the opposite sex." Our sexuality is in our DNA, just like our hand dominance and eye color.
It's good to see so many Christians opposing god's directives. Jesus never said to disregard the Old Testament's commandments, which include stoning homosexuals to death; in fact, he said quite the opposite:
"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." - Matthew 5:17-19.
If you believe what's written in the Bible, then you must believe that Jesus himself said that the old law will apply "Till heaven and earth pass". Heaven and Earth are still here, so that means homosexuality remains an abomination punishable by death.
Of course, the Bible was written by folks who didn't know where the sun went at night, so you shouldn't believe it anyway, but for those of you that still do, I commend you for defying your celestial dictator's orders. The god of the Old Testament is an immoral, malicious, petty, childish jackass, so any form of defiance is a victory for humanism.
It's kinda like when the U.S. finally abolished slavery despite the fact the Bible clearly shows god is in favor of it. Heck, god himself even provides instructions on where to get your slaves, how to pass them on to your children, how badly to beat them without getting in trouble, etc. Freeing people held in bondage against their will was a big ol' "Up yours!" to the god of the Bible. We need a whole lot more of that if we're ever going to rise above archaic 1st century superstition.
homophobics however do choose to that lifestyle.
If you hate God and seek to destroy his saved you are my enemy. And you are Jesus enemy, and he will cast you into hell.
Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
Psalm:139:21
I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
Psalm:139:22
:) The Only Ememy is Satan That's It
one thing for sure if someone who is title is a "lgbt" person want to seek Christ, they have to abandoned they old life... which is full of "lgbt practice life"
many of them realize that is a difficult way of life, going against the flow. they must tried really hard and committed really deep for God
many of them finally give up and going back to their old life... and start to blame christian for not accepting them for what they are or the christian rejecting lgbt. but the truth Christ never rejected lgbt, but Christ come for those who is sin and sick. so He can heal them
Being gay is not a choice. I don't see why anyone would choose to be lgbt+
FallOut!atmyChemicalDisco exactly. I would pray more that I wasn’t than to pray that I can be accepted by Christ
it seems harder for homophobics to give up their lifestyle, which oddly would make things more easy!
FallOut!atmyChemicalDisco.....I've seen many videos online of gays and transgenders changing back to being straight and the gender they were born, so........YEAH it's a choice!!!!!!
@@kingdavid4466 Ive seen homophobics change back to normal which proves homophobia is a choice...an evil one.
If someone we know and love eg. A movie star or someone in sports rapes a person do we stop loving them? We may still love the person but dislike what they have done because it's not in keeping of what you stand for. Love the person hate the sin. Man on man woman on woman = sin.
Tony Bonboni rape is an imbalance of power and therefore is harming someone in the act. Consensual love and sex between two people of the same gender is not harmful to anyone.
Telling us we are sinners is harmful though. Please stop. You have no idea how much this hurts people like myself and my community.
It's harmful against god because you're choosing your own desires over him. Everybody makes mistakes and everybody sins. But it's not too late to give your life to Christ 😊
Yes as a Christian we should love all people and our enemy but Jesus didn't said us to love sins or things against him
The World is our opponent, the World hates us because of Jesus Christ. I hear you talking about the christian way to deal with this. Love! But love is also being honest. Therefore you have to tell transpeople they are living in sin. Love is also being clear. Jesus saved us from sins, and we need salvation. So it doesnt help transgenders if you don t speak out against this corruption. Satan wants humanity being corrupted so he let’s people believe gender is an option. I love you brother, but just remember that Jesus always was loving and honest and true, and without compromise. And i believe you agree, but you could have pointed this out.
I am a Christian and a homosexual and I believe that this guy is full of crap
I think you should be truthful and never reject Christ ,but show compassion ❤
"How should the church respond to the RICH, and WEALTHY!
Stop it! That's where they get their money. Look at these nice suits and jewelry they're wearing.
The Catholic Church in my country doesn't pay tax to the government, but instead to the Vatican. And the universities they own usually have the most expensive tuition fees (sometimes not worth the money)
I find your words rather condescending. The LGBTQI Community should not be looked upon as something that needs to be tolerated and 'loved' despite their 'choice of lifestyle' (not quoting Mr Yuan here, referencing the general attitude). Being LGBTQI is not a choice - 'God' made everything just the way it is. We are all from the same Light, suggesting otherwise is very damaging and suggests 'God' makes mistakes.
Shamot...God doesn't make mistakes. We are all born sinners. But it's not wrong to call sin..'sin'. And the fact that we are born sinners is NOT God's fault. There just has to come a time that we must accept the fact that God makes the rules. I don't know why He said that homosexuality is a sin and He didn't want us to live like that, but again, He makes the rules and we have the freewill to follow and strive to live according to His will, or reject and live any way we wish.
Dear Darinwaynec, the Jesus you look to is the one men have created. Your problem is you have only listened to preachers who use the Old Testament to put words into the mouth of Jesus. This is blasphemy of the worst kind. Jesus was the new wine that could not be put into old wine skins (OT). Jesus lived with people who were considered ‘sinners’ & unclean by the Pharisees (Jewish leaders). In doing so He taught us that we are a soul wrapped in useless flesh. When you define someone by the flesh - this includes their sexuality, you become Satan. Jesus rebuked Peter calling him Satan for thinking like men, not God. God did indeed create everything - including the LGBT Community. Genetic tests prove that homosexuality is something an individual is born with. Remember that Jesus came with a new message, one of love & acceptance. That’s why He was killed, because it challenged the Jewish hyerarchy. In His sacrifice all (perceived) sins are abolished. That’s not to say being Gay is a sin. It means nobody has the right to judge & condemn others. This would denigrate the greatest gift Jesus gave us - freedom! Those who do not understand this do the work of the satan. Peace.
@@gospelofthomas77thpearl22 First off, I have listened to anointed ministers, because they are just that, anointed to preach the true word of God, but I also have learned from the Holy Spirit and let it teach me as well. I am a teacher of others now, a professor in a Bible college and I know a little something about the Bible. Jesus did teach love and not to judge but he also told us to not live in sin. Reference the woman caught in adultery...'Go and sin no more.' He embraced Mary Magdalene ,who was indeed a harlot, but He also cast 7 devils out of her. He does not want us to continue living in sin. And there comes a time that we have to look at the Bible as the gauge of what God considers righteousness and what He calls sin. You can pretend that it doesn't call homosexuality sin, but it does. It's also new testament, not just old. We have to understand that God makes the rules, we either follow them or we choose not too.
“When you define someone by the flesh - this includes sexuality - you become Satan”
The LGBT community define themselves by their sexuality. So it turns out you have just condemned the LGBT community. If you love God, you must give up EVERYTHING for Him - including your temptations and urges.
The LGBT Community have been ‘labelled’ by people like you as different because of their sexuality. That’s not their choice. However, in order to protect their rights they have embraced the title - based on sexual preference. I do not define anyone by the flesh - this is the virus of your kind. The kind that hate everything that isn’t like you. Give up your judgement based on lies & hatred for Him. He died for everyone to show YOU the Spirit is above & beyond the flesh.
I'm not a Christian but I completely agree
Im christian and disagree
man , it's really interesting to see how one's ideologies change over the years
I used to be such a homophobe but oh well
people really do change huh
@@aaron6807 we must pray for homophobics.
Quick tip...
Its lgbtq+
There are much more ppl included in this community. You probably didn't mean to but yea
That's what I've been saying! I don't think love is a sin, even if it's the same gender. Even though others keep saying that they will go to hell, I know they shouldn't, we should be able to have our own feelings and listen to our hearts.
Tell them to read the Bible...and make a choice. You warn them, and they cant claim ignorance. Game over. Its their choice from there on out. You did your part, if they ask for help, help them, if they scoff, wave goodbye...forever. Very simple.
Very good point Jesus was rejected. He left without giving any kind of blessings upon those who rejected Him. When He sent His disciples out 2x2 He gave instruction. If you are rejected by the Gospel shake the dust off your feet and move on. Many don't want to change their ways because the church looks so much like the world. Jesus said to come out from among them we are a peculiar people. Our light should make others wonder who we are and want what we have.
R H No one is born gay idiot. Stop your ignorance.
yet homophobics read the bible and stay homophobic. So Game over. Its their choice from there on out. You did your part, if they ask for help, help them, if they scoff, wave goodbye...forever. Very simple.
@@drewbricks7934
Sexual orientation is not a choice, and not a sin.
Pick out the plank from your eye.
I'm pansexual
*fight me*
. I'm bi😂
@@dorisuhlman7926 me too :p
@@ididntmeanto5636 I'm actually a lesbian 😂I was just figuring it out then.
@@ididntmeanto5636 and that's good
And I'm a Catholic guy that doesn't cares
The bible is meant to stop sin if your a doing what the bible tells you not to do no matter what it is and don't want to stop then dont even go to church
2:36 A lot of the hurt is intentional on the part of straight Chrisitans (including those not divorced{) to stand with Pharisaical pride to shout "God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican [or homosexual]." (Luke 18:11 with added phrase) to draw attention away from the myriads of divorcees sitting in church pews daily living in violation of Matt. 5:32 "whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery." Jesus is crystal clear as to what he meant in this verse. Not once does he condemn same-sex desire or couples. NOT ONCE!!!!!!!
In Matt. 8:5-13 and Luke 7:1-10, Jesus actual healed a centurian's servant. The Greek work the centurian used to describe him in παῖς (pais) which is translated as "servant." But pais does not mean “servant.” It means “lover.” In Thucydides, in Plutarch, in countless Greek sources, and according to leading Greek scholar Kenneth Dover,--an authority on ancient Greeks and their sexual lives, παῖς (pais) refers to the junior partner in a same-sex relationship. Jesus' response to the centurian was not condemnation. He praised him saying: “Truly I tell you, in no one in Israel have I found such faith. I tell you, many will come from east and west and will eat with Abraham and Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven, while the heirs of the kingdom will be thrown into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” (Matt. 8:10-12) Also, Jesus "was amazed at him [the centurion], and turning to the crowd following him, he said, 'I tell you, I have not found such great faith even in Israel.'" (Luke 7:9)
So we are suppose to love them but at the same time oppose there entire life? Think clear. If a gay person said I love you to a Christian and yet tried to push laws to tear down churches and keep you from worship and praying to God you would still say they love you? Such a foolish man trying to hold to tradition because he fears man and not God. psa.139.21-22 Do I not hate those who hate you, Lord , and abhor those who are in rebellion against you? I have nothing but hatred for them; I count them my enemies.
1988joshua Jesus actually said something about hating enemies and all, but I guess you do not care about that part of the Bible, right?
1988joshua i see what you mean. so we hv to put a balance here with our love for them but not forgetting the rebuking as well, like God, He passes judgement and He shows His mercy too.
John 3:16
Ok what is your point?
I agree with you but don't put law to suit your evil desires... you and LGBTQ community must obey the bible
Yes love, but dont encourage sin, smen understanding and love can change hearts. And the word 9f God educates us.
Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. Matthew 16:24 NIV
The church is commanded to forsake its sins. Romans Chapter one is where God says all that must be said about our times. They are willingly ignorant. They don't do what Jesus said and cast out these devils. Pastors must protect the flock by causing unrepentant sinners to leave. Gays or straight. Do what the Bible says. God does not bless sin.
Jesus and God love everyone, and don't hate. I was born in a Cathloc family, and I was taught to accept and consider and not hate and judge. And I was scared when I came out to my family, but instead of sticking me in a homophobic camp, they loved me, and accepted me. I am now a proud lesbian and a proud Cathloc too. 🌈🌈🌈 ⛪⛪⛪❤❤❤❤❤❤ 👬👭 👬👭
Y'all need to wake up, what the fuck did I just watch
If God and the Bible say that LGBTQ and same sex marriage is a sin, then I must agree with what God and the Bible say, but we can still show love and respect to people who are in sin. Loving and respecting someone don’t mean we have to agree with them
@PotHeadPandaBear Understand but I didn’t say anything about denying their rights they have. Yes we live in a free nation where LGBTQ and same second marriage is legal but that still don’t change Gods stance on homosexuality and whatever God declares right and wrong I must agree with at the end of the day. But I can still despise sin and love thy neighbor at the same time
the law kills, the spirit gives life. these folks say they are born that way, or that they oriented to the same sex. that's their business not mine. the issue is are they willing to follow Jesus on the narrow road. as with straights, most are not.
Then maybe God is wrong. Why is it a sin? It really shouldn't be.
God never said anything about “LGBTQ” or rather even about Queer people or homosexuality.
God certainly doesn’t ever address gay marriage.
The brief mentions of homoeroticism in the Bible are in unique contextual niches that do not apply generally: rape, idolatrous pagan practices, temple prostitution.
“But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.”
Galatians 5:22-23 NIV
I appreciate that you are willing to respect the God-given dignity of Queer people but I’d invite you to consider the foundation upon which your beliefs lie.
Yes we love them and show compassion, but we shouldn't encourage and support this behaviour.. love them and lead them to God. Dont dont encourage sin,, the point IS we may have tendencies but we put God before our desire.. God his will ne done .to show our love to God we trust his word and he keeps up on the right path.. if we put all our sexual desire first than we are basically putting ourselves before God and not really trusting his word..the point is the love all, and lead them to God.. dont force and jugde. Love them as yourself and help them heal and understand why its important to trust God and put his will before our.. there a Good reason.. not to ruine your fun. But to save you and bring you to paradise. Amen YESHUA is king. Good day to you all. Peace and love God be will us always. Emmanuel.
What about teachers/pastors who embrace and accept same sex relationships, and also claim to be Christians? How can one be Christian, yet be accepting of homosexuality?
because homophobia is wrong
@methjuice if only christians were more like u then......Its so sad to find so many Atheiests who are more clued up and more educated than christians.
I think we need apologetics on Love in facing this matter. Just saying
We should love them, but we don't have to support them
Walang masama magsabi ng salvation pero pag sabi ka ng ending ng tao
At judgement
Si lord na un
Wala na kayo tinira sa kamay ni lord
Dahil nasa kamay nionword nya
Walng masamang magsabi mali
Pero para sabihin impyerno or langit bagsak i think
Hndi na sakop ng faith ninuman yan
Ni isa satin lalo sainyo
Hndi kayo ksali sa judgement na magjujudge
Nagawa nionna ung responsibility ibahagi ipalaganap salita ni lord
Parang kc nagiging mali na pag sumusobra at inaalisan nio na ng freedom ung tao magkamali
Wala bang tiwala sa gagawin ng dios sa buhay ng taong un
Ni isa sa preacher
Wag na wag magsabi impyerno bagsak mo
Dahil hndi ikaw magsasabi kahit alam mo
Once again alam mo nabasa mo
Pero hndi padin ikaw DAPAT MAGSASABI NUN KHIT UN NALNG HAYAAN NIO SA DIOS
AT DUN SA TAO
KC BELIEVE IT OR NOT ALAM NA DN NILA UN MISMO
DUN PALANG TINGIN MO WALANG DIOS NA UMUUSAP SA TAONG UN
AT KUNG HNDI NYA ALAM
THE FACT NA NASABI AT NAISIP MONA
TAPOS NA UNG RESPONSIBILITY AT PAGKAKASALA MO
HNDI MO SYA HINIKAYAT
MALAWAK ANG PAGIGING MALI
MAS MALAWAK PADIN UNG PAGMAMAHAL NG DIOS
Thank you I agree :3
I always say to myself that god chooses the bravest to be them selfs and that’s all his children and thank you this really helped me my dad pushes lgbt in the church and how there limited and my anxiety always starts to kick in so this really helped me thank you god bless you :3
The bravest people are the ones that are themselves.
Typically that sentiment is applied to Queer people, especially those who brave danger to live authentically.
Jesus loves all of us calls us into repentance and to be born again unless they hear gospel truth of rather than a gospel that pleased itchy ears!!! Truth of gospel is Jesus loves you calls us to share gospel in love but in that love not fudging truth of God's word. Jesus died for me died for you truth is he said I am truth way and life his truth sets us free but he said Jesus you must be born again have renewed heart
But sir, what about jesus himself kicked out those ppl that were selling things outside the chruch who were ruining the chruch s' env
That is righteous anger. He pushed them out because they were defacing the church. Disrespecting the Father's house
Romans 1:26-27
New International Version
26 Because of this, God gave them over(A) to shameful lusts.(B) Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.(C) 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.(D)
Nice watered down stance against sin sir.
Your Bible has almost killed me 3 times.
yeah f*ck the bible
In Bible love them means, show them the right path.
Showing the right path is something that must be done in love. It is not the opportunity to relish the suffering of others or make their lives painful for not adhering to advice.
Trouble is you can tell them but if they refuse to listen then as Jesus sed wipe your feet walk away there's only so much we can do I was Gay 40 years but had encounter with God but even friends I thort were friends hate me now so......
Yes love ALL people that doesn't mean LOVE their sin too.
Fully accept them.
I'm bisexual.
*Waiting for haters*
Ginja Ninja Good for you! 2 Corinthian 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
Your proclamation and decision is between you and God. You know right from wrong, and you have made your choice, everyone here respect your choice. However, there is no guilt trip here for those standing up for righteousness after all he who knows to do right and does not do it is sinning. God has the final word for all of us.
In His Majesty's Kingdom God My Creator,PJohn
P John Too much words 2 lazy to read
Ginja Ninja Awwww......Free will. Gotta respect it.(: (: (: (: In His Majesty's Kingdom God My CreatorPJohn
That’s awesome! I am gay myself.
Same. 💖💜💙 not waiting for anyone to come for me though, lol. Live your best life buddy.
Jesus Christ came to seek and save that which was lost. Amen.
even the homophobics
@@pastorbri Yes, the homophobic and the homosexual, and all the others who are neither, but still lost without Jesus Christ.
@@brandonburrell8517 but there are gay christians, so they are ok.
Who said they are our enemies? What are you trying to stir up?
I would submitt that they are the enemies of God even though God loves them but must still condemn them.
As a Christian I hate sin because my God hates sin. We need to be be obvious that we reject sin, not hide and cower to it regardless of whether it offends the sinner. The world would have the Christian be tolerant and accepting to sin. Love the sinner enough to show them they are wrong, tell them the gospel truth
I am a Christian male and I am not lgbtq+ but I do support lgbtq+. I mean, my favorite cartoon ship atm is luz x amity from the owl house.
How do you know they are lost???
Wow. Are you serious. You can be gay and "married" in Texas now? Wow. Jesus came to save the lost.... sigh.
***** What?
***** That's similar in asking why there is evil in the world. This isn't a perfect world for a reason... earth isn't heaven. And love wouldn't be real, authentic love if it was programmed. A robotic love for God would be pointless.
praise Jesus for same sex marriages eh
You can be LGBT and Christian no problem
Так говорит Господь!
Пророчество: Голубым.
Кастоньезо не такой. Он герой.
Хоть и был он голубой.
Я вижу тебя на сквозь. Аминь. Руки убери от него. Не насилуй его. Весь мозг проел ему сначала, а потом накинулся на него, как зверь. Гнилое это все. Оставь это все. Ради Меня оставь. Не будет такого, что бы Я принял тебя. Покайся и живи так, что бы мы встретились с тобой. Я люблю тебя, не так, как вы любите друг друга. Аминь. Прощу тебя вскоре, когда раскаешься предо Мной. Я мир даю, а ты жизнь попрал. Время близко тебе, как всем впрочем. Тороплю тебя, приди ко Мне, не умирай без Меня. Аминь. Аминь. Все. 07.01.2015 г.
Пророчество - Юродство: Голубым.
Этот грех твой знаю Я. Ты свинья. Так говорю Я. Не ходи за Мной теперь. Покайся Мне. Выход есть. Ты герой или нет? Что делаешь ты? В пустыне мира ты засел и ждешь Меня там. А Я говорю: остановись! Ты ночью не пой. Будь со Мной. Аминь. Я - антихрист, говорю тебе. Не так это. Аминь. Я злой. Не так это. Аминь. Ты хочешь есть? Иди ко Мне. Я в любви живу у тебя. А ты злой. Понял Меня? Я знаю тебя. Аминь. Ты злое возлюбил, а Меня нет. Не гнилой - пророк Мой, а ты гнилой. Лишь малая часть у него не верна. Какая? Еда. Говорю всем. Пиши, что есмь, а ты хочешь есть. Духота... В фильме было. Это они: сатанисты земли. Убили Меня и думают: что Я спасен был ими. А не то. Возомнили о себе: крутые они. Я герой. Аминь. Я знаю вас всех: кто насилует детей. Грех твой вскрою, что бы стыдно было. Аминь. Я знаю всех. Аминь. 23.07.2015 г.
+ Похоть: Ты злой. Я герой, а ты нет. Ты раздет, а Я да, одет. Минус ты, а Я плюс. Сойдемся вместе? В любви не живи, раз ты такой - голубой. Я знаю тебя, не любишь Меня. Аминь. Черви вылезли из него теперь за это слово, а ты хочешь есть и спать, насиловать себя членом своим. Аминь. Я могу так сказать или нет? Бог Я или кто? Ты бог себе. А Я нужен тебе? Нет, скажешь ты. А Я с тобой, не умер еще. Аминь. 23.07.2015 г.
Пророчество - Юродство: Голубым.
Ты кто такой, что перечишь Мне? Я вижу тебя, не греши. Куличи купи Мне. Аминь. И отнеси на паперть. Я там буду стоять и петь о любви. Ты злое забудь. Покайся Мне во всем и не делай греха. Аминь. Ты злой. Я вижу тебя везде. Похоть твоя - не знает границ. Аминь. Ты хочешь жить или грешить? Я знаю тебя всего. ЛГБТ - убери, не фанатей. Фанатик Я или ты? Фантик ты без Меня. А Я люблю тебя по настоящему. Убудь. Ты злой. Вниз. Там много таких было. Аминь. И сей час есть. 23.07.2015 г.
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