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The four beasts at in the intro scene are Genbu the turtle, Byakko the tiger, Seiryu the dragon, and Suzaku, the phoenix. They are the four guardian spirits of the city, each one representing one of the four cardinal directions. "Was that just a hell box?" It was a well. There's an old legend of a monk who went down a well and found it was actually a portal to hell.
the four beasts of the directions have also been a major motif in at least one Final Fantasy game (I'm actually pretty sure more than one), as well as in the first SaGa game as bosses (titled "The Final Fantasy Legend" in the US, but never actually supposed to have been a Final Fantasy game)
@@vanessaashford9203 they were also the villains of a whole arc in Yu Yu Hakusho, but that whole show is pretty much Japanese mythology/folktale retellings in a really fun way
@@dustbunny6381 They also played the role of major antaagonists in Digimon Tamers, and they're represented in Castlevania by the animal familiars Maria Renard can call upon. Much like the Four Heavenly Kings, it's one of those things that just naturally ends up appearing in metric shittons of Japanese media.
@@vanessaashford9203dogpiling in this thread to say that Pokemon also references them. Tornadus (phoenix), thundurus (dragon), landorus (tiger), and enamorus (turtle) are also meant to represent the four beasts of direction, with their therian forms taking the rough shape of each animal. Looks like a lot of media pays homage to this mythology. I enjoyed learning about the other references in the comments!
The irony is there are 32 animated scenes of hell in the game, (8 layers of hell, 4 tortures in each). Vinny only got sent to hell once and saw 4 tortures. There is only one heaven scene, and he got sent there like 3 times! I have heard there is this belief that passing through hell is simply part of the journey towards enlightenment, not lasting indefinitely. Like sure, it's bad, but that's the price you pay for enlightenment.
Japanese hell follows a lot of the buddhist hell customs. In life you build up karma for the stuff you do, you go to 'hell' to remove that karma through bad stuff happening to you. Then you are sent back to reincarnate into whatever based on the torture for one final lifetime of karma before becoming human again. Then you reincarnate into a human and then have the chance to attain enlightment. Or go through the eternal cycle of suffering if you like. Funnily enough, even the demons and gods go through this cycle when they die.
I wish modern game devs would take notes from stuff like this, where the horror comes from the psychological impact of being subjected to disturbing situations and imagery that play on primal fears rather than leaning into the "you're going crazy and seeing shadow people, but collect several photos/objects and you'll learn it's all just an allegory for your grief of a dead loved one" angle that has basically become a horror game cliche at this point
While I do want horror devs to dip their toes on primal fear phycology route, the "going crazy" route could work well given the correct devs work on it. Take the game Atama for example. That game really combines both aspect of the aforementioned concept imo. Really unsettling stuff
vinny bungled it and put the scary fucked up shit in the sunday segment and the weird wacky stuff in the spooptober segment seriously though the way that kid was just killed with zero followup was genuinely uncomfortable
The practice is called Kiri-sute gomen, and it did require a session in court with witnesses. After all, in a feudal system run by landlord warrior hybrids, you have to be careful about killing the tenants and retainers who serve your fellow samurai without some legal procedures.
"I keep getting, like, I keep getting tricked by ghouls in this game." I love how unexaggerated Vinny is and yet he says things that are just hilarious but still entirely genuine and organic.
wiki says they need justifable cause, but it's still kinda bullshit, all it takes for a samurai to kill you is insulting them and then not apologizing. Which is the equvalent of getting banned on discord, except u re being banned from real life.
@@serv3534 apparently all you had to do was go to the local authorities and report that what you did. All you got was like 20 days of house arrest for what is essentially murder.
This has the distinction of being the only videogame reviewed by Roger Ebert, and apparently the only one he enjoyed. He gave it a glowing review, in which he praised it for it's artistic merit. Ironic, given his later stance that videogames are "categorically not art".
I swear to god, one of these days I'm gonna be doing the dishes or something and the crusty "namu amida butsu" sound clip is just gonna pop into my head for no reason.
Absolutely unsettling game, but I love the artstyle and the lores, also the fact they have fully voiced lines makes this game so much better I love the old kyoto accent and the old jp, still hard to study
One of the big "old japanese" i noticed was the change from Arigatou Gozaimasu to simply "Arigata ii" Edit - I have been informed that my Atama is NOT ii
@@Atylonisus I think arigatai is still used among the elderly in modern japan it's more of the speaking manerism that are outdated/changed like example, calling people rude was bureimono, it's now shitsurei (nobody uses bureimono in everyday life)
I actually thought about that while watching - if this is set over a thousand years ago, are the voice lines in an old version of Japanese? Is there a Kyoto accent? Not knowing Japanese myself, this comment was informative.
Vinny got reincarnated in heaven like 3 times wtf, he got a hell once and didn't get any of the other paths, I really want to see his reaction to the hungry ghost reincarnation
Chat getting shocked and feeling squeamish on the hell part is just priceless This is how HELL was portrayed back then in the classic Japanese artstyle (and honestly not even that far off from Christiaan kind of hell portrayal either) so it's really unsurprising that it has pretty gory stuff in it honestly
@@Enecororo97 Exactly. I think all the cute monster girls and cute anime artstyle make people forget how gory the depiction of real monster/youkai and hell back then
@@Enecororo97 oh yeah, I randomly found that movie on DVD for 5$ years ago. I was surprised because Criterion films tend tend to be super expensive. Genuinely unsettling for a 1960 Japanese movie.
The issue with the white text box in the game, has to do with the outdated DOSBox emulator you got from that repack post someone made on my abandonware website, cuz i tried running that and gotten the same results as well too. So i instead found a more updated dosbox emu to replace it and once i did, i finally was able to text in anything in the textbox and everything else was running correctly too. If you want i can send you my fixed one or unless you got someone else to do so for you or u good on playing it anymore.
@@EmoDuck13 I was able to fix it just by using DOSBox-X instead of DOSBox, without having to change any game files or configuration. It seems like it really is just a bug in DOSBox, not the game itself.
it's because most modern horror is just the same thing over and over again, everyone seems to have decided that jumpscares are the scariest thing possible (they're not, they're literally the equivalent of coming up behind someone and yelling "boo!"), along with gratuitous (and often uncomfortably fetish-y) torture imagery. More subtle horror that relies on building a pervasive atmosphere of suspense and dread that never really gets resolved, being conceptually disturbing, as well as playing mind games with the audience, is a dying art, and in games it's practically already dead (FNaF I feel like really fucked everything up when it came to this, like jumpscares were already overutilized before, imho, but those games seemed to redefine horror as *just* jumpscares)
This game really messed me up. Especially with the "hot kool-aid" part, where the ogres were pouring molten gold into the man's throat. I know a lot of people saw it first from Game of Thrones, but It's a form of torture that started from ancient china, but also extends towards the roman era and Spanish inquisition, where they poured hot silver instead of gold down people's throats, and sometimes their ears and eyes. Really messed up stuff.
@@eveandaedrulCuriosity, passion, and rage. When you get all three of these in a species, you get horrific results. Dolphins and chimps also exhibit these traits to lesser capable degrees. They're also pretty savage, if you read into them. In humans, the more stress someone is under, the more dulled their empathy is. The less one cares about another, the more likely they are to be violent to anything they fear or disagree with. In knowing that, one must always be self aware. The past was stressful because of this lack of security and communication. It's not exactly great now, but, in comparison? We're having this conversation instead of struggling to secure food for the next night. We don't suspect we could be dead next month. We know we likely won't wake up to someone slitting our throats.
Weird and out of nowhere, but I'm pretty sure 38:26 is in reference to the practice of viewing horrifying images of decomposing bodies by monks as a method of deterring sexual urges. It really works!
I love that one samurai who was just chilling and saves you from a demon/goblin disguised as a woman. After seeing those who served the lord kill both an innocent child and you, just because of a minor disruption, seeing an actual good samurai do his job properly was really satisfying, even if it’s probably because he was just traveling and coincidentally met you.
I'm glad that it looks like I went to bed only minutes before the end of this. Probably one of the overall highlights for me; this game is amazing. Very strange and ominous, like The Museum of Anything Goes. The moment when the kid is murdered, and then we're all just waiting there, trying to process, with the eerie music in the background and the little sprite corpse on screen is going to take up space in my head forever.
I remember watching ManlyBadassHero play this years ago, I liked it so much that I've recomended it to multiple people even outside of just playing it just for spooptober, it really is just an amazing experience filled with so many esoterical mysteries, knowledge about real japanese figures and famous beliefs and tales of what demons are like in japanese folklore and mythology.
I'm really glad I got to watch this live! Everything in this game is so surreal, vivid, and strange. I actually cracked up at how incredibly violent the animations are because I was so caught off guard. This game feels like being a stranger wandering around in the apocalypse.
@@dswizzy2946 almost all indie horror games are just glorified haunted houses with a gimmick. This was actually haunting, the Japanese have great folklore that goes beyond just spooky bullshit that makes TH-camrs overreact.
Probably because it portrays a different perspective on japanese culture. Most of the time we see the things from glorified or beautiful perspectives, like in anime. Therefore, getting hit with this run-down, depressing and violent world catches us of guard. Of course the old depictions are still around, though we barely are confronted with it.
90s point and clicks are some of the most fascinating Vinesauce content. I still think about Burn Cycle. So much to the point where when Buddha showed up here I expected him to say "IT'S A BITCH"
The worst part about this game? That samurai. Because things like that actually happened, and fairly often, especially when you get to the Sengoku era. This is the Heian period from what I can tell. They were not honorable warriors, and neither were knights. They were brutal, trained killers.
I think the most horrifying part of this game (to me at least) is how the Japanese people during this time genuinely lived like this; petrified of demons and living in a brutal caste system.
After seeing this, I don't know why Vinny has never considered playing Snatcher? Would be definitely his kind of thing. Elements of blade runner, horror and more. Made by genius Kojumbo too.
Good lord, what a nightmare. I'm glad I never saw this game as a kid, because it would have truly traumatized me. MS-DOS games were always scary because they were so cryptic and weird to my child brain.
damn I saw this game on a iceberg image back in 2020, and seeing you play it 2 years later feels pretty crazy to me even though this is like one of those sunday stream games you would play
I know this game thanks to very old 2012ish videos that talked about underground or not so well-known games, mostly PC point & click adventures, similar to Sluggish Morss, Eastern Mind: The Island of Tong Nou, etc, have been interested on it since it includes a lot about the Japanese culture, folklore and story (yet iirc they had to change some stuff like names of historical figures I think, even if it can be weird or grotesque I like the artstyle of the characters and the environments), still I'm glad that Vinny gave it a check because haven't been able to play it by myself
It seems that horror games in Japan in the 80s and 90s were largely divided into two categories. Exorcism in a suspicious place or Experience everything like an adventure game. For some reason, the main character(player) doesn't die. And surprisingly, many people in the Western world are new to this and don't know that it was criticized as a mannerism at the time.
I saw an in-depth video about this a few days ago. Then this popped up on the home page. No idea Vinny played this last year. This game is a trip and a half. Hope he does something like phantasmagoria or I have no mouth eventually.
I was wondering why this name was familiar and then I saw the gameplay. I believe the World of Horror dev cited this as an inspiration for its aesthetic. If we’re lucky maybe that game can also get an update in time before Spooptober ends
The space that is Kyoto works like a mirror that projects the depths of the human mind. You gotta come down to the club, man. Club Kyoto. It's got midgets, there's mirrors, there's frankfooters, there's Frankensteins, there's frank and beans, there's psychic journeys across a thousand years of space and time! It's in Manhattan. It's got everything! You gotta go!
This game is so good at getting across just how fucked up the samurai and upwards could be as classes (though this did vary somewhat across time and place). Yeah, samurai aesthetics are undeniably cool as hell, but I doubt the lower classes really cared much about that when the samurai could do shit like *this* with relative impunity.
Its amazing how Vin makes a joke about certain commercials. I wonder how many doses he took of that one thing from the same company since that one was totally different than everything else they sell right?
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The four beasts at in the intro scene are Genbu the turtle, Byakko the tiger, Seiryu the dragon, and Suzaku, the phoenix. They are the four guardian spirits of the city, each one representing one of the four cardinal directions.
"Was that just a hell box?"
It was a well. There's an old legend of a monk who went down a well and found it was actually a portal to hell.
the four beasts of the directions have also been a major motif in at least one Final Fantasy game (I'm actually pretty sure more than one), as well as in the first SaGa game as bosses (titled "The Final Fantasy Legend" in the US, but never actually supposed to have been a Final Fantasy game)
and his name was...
THE DOOMSLAYER.
DURURUDURURU DOO DOO DOO
@@vanessaashford9203 they were also the villains of a whole arc in Yu Yu Hakusho, but that whole show is pretty much Japanese mythology/folktale retellings in a really fun way
@@dustbunny6381 They also played the role of major antaagonists in Digimon Tamers, and they're represented in Castlevania by the animal familiars Maria Renard can call upon. Much like the Four Heavenly Kings, it's one of those things that just naturally ends up appearing in metric shittons of Japanese media.
@@vanessaashford9203dogpiling in this thread to say that Pokemon also references them. Tornadus (phoenix), thundurus (dragon), landorus (tiger), and enamorus (turtle) are also meant to represent the four beasts of direction, with their therian forms taking the rough shape of each animal. Looks like a lot of media pays homage to this mythology. I enjoyed learning about the other references in the comments!
The irony is there are 32 animated scenes of hell in the game, (8 layers of hell, 4 tortures in each). Vinny only got sent to hell once and saw 4 tortures. There is only one heaven scene, and he got sent there like 3 times!
I have heard there is this belief that passing through hell is simply part of the journey towards enlightenment, not lasting indefinitely. Like sure, it's bad, but that's the price you pay for enlightenment.
Japanese hell follows a lot of the buddhist hell customs. In life you build up karma for the stuff you do, you go to 'hell' to remove that karma through bad stuff happening to you. Then you are sent back to reincarnate into whatever based on the torture for one final lifetime of karma before becoming human again. Then you reincarnate into a human and then have the chance to attain enlightment.
Or go through the eternal cycle of suffering if you like.
Funnily enough, even the demons and gods go through this cycle when they die.
@@samuraijackoff5354 in other words, you go to hell before you die, Luigi
I think he went to the heaven because he chanted namu amida butsu many times in the start, lol
@@alexkozliayev9902karmamaxxing heavenpilled vinny
In the game there's also the possibility to get reincarnated as a dog, though it's not working properly from what I've heard.
I wish modern game devs would take notes from stuff like this, where the horror comes from the psychological impact of being subjected to disturbing situations and imagery that play on primal fears rather than leaning into the "you're going crazy and seeing shadow people, but collect several photos/objects and you'll learn it's all just an allegory for your grief of a dead loved one" angle that has basically become a horror game cliche at this point
💯 agree
True that!
While I agree with you assessment of modern horror games. This isn’t the direction I’d like to see followed, personally :p
While I do want horror devs to dip their toes on primal fear phycology route, the "going crazy" route could work well given the correct devs work on it. Take the game Atama for example. That game really combines both aspect of the aforementioned concept imo. Really unsettling stuff
when you say it like that im starting to think people took the wrooooong lesson from silent hill 2
vinny bungled it and put the scary fucked up shit in the sunday segment and the weird wacky stuff in the spooptober segment
seriously though the way that kid was just killed with zero followup was genuinely uncomfortable
sunday stream is always about fucked up content wym
this game unsettled me more in minutes than the entirety of the first spoop segment.
My jaw dropped when that happened. It's realistic for Feudal Japan but I still was not expecting it
So out of left field but yeah then the realism set in to just give continuous horror beyond the initial surprise
The practice is called Kiri-sute gomen, and it did require a session in court with witnesses. After all, in a feudal system run by landlord warrior hybrids, you have to be careful about killing the tenants and retainers who serve your fellow samurai without some legal procedures.
"I keep getting, like, I keep getting tricked by ghouls in this game." I love how unexaggerated Vinny is and yet he says things that are just hilarious but still entirely genuine and organic.
amazing fish out of water comedy
"Cosmology of Kyoto" sounds like a Touhou subtitle.
12:00 "Did they really do that?"
Yes, its called the Kiri-sute-gomen I think, Samurai could just kill you for insulting their honor.
wiki says they need justifable cause, but it's still kinda bullshit, all it takes for a samurai to kill you is insulting them and then not apologizing. Which is the equvalent of getting banned on discord, except u re being banned from real life.
Samurai could kill you for pretty much any reason honestly.
@@crimsonlanceman7882 I assume they were allowed to do this because most of them were hired by powerful generals and lords, is that about right?
@@crimsonlanceman7882 Yup, basically insulting a discord mod and instead of being warned, you get banned like an execution
@@serv3534 apparently all you had to do was go to the local authorities and report that what you did. All you got was like 20 days of house arrest for what is essentially murder.
This has the distinction of being the only videogame reviewed by Roger Ebert, and apparently the only one he enjoyed. He gave it a glowing review, in which he praised it for it's artistic merit. Ironic, given his later stance that videogames are "categorically not art".
Ebert was just some guy, people forget that. His opinion only ever had as much or as little value as you gave it yourself.
I wasn't the only one who had "namu amida butsu" stuck in their head for hours after watching this, right?
I swear to god, one of these days I'm gonna be doing the dishes or something and the crusty "namu amida butsu" sound clip is just gonna pop into my head for no reason.
it was going off in my head and I couldn't remember what it was from so I had to find my way back here
i started chanting along with them so ye lol
That's literally the Japanese pronunciation of Namo Amitabha, a common Buddhist chant.
I've had that stuck in my head since I've played this as a child.
Absolutely unsettling game, but I love the artstyle and the lores,
also the fact they have fully voiced lines makes this game so much better
I love the old kyoto accent and the old jp, still hard to study
One of the big "old japanese" i noticed was the change from Arigatou Gozaimasu to simply "Arigata ii"
Edit - I have been informed that my Atama is NOT ii
@@Atylonisus I think arigatai is still used among the elderly in modern japan
it's more of the speaking manerism that are outdated/changed like example, calling people rude was bureimono, it's now shitsurei (nobody uses bureimono in everyday life)
Arigatai is a word we still use today, and quite regularly. It translates to “thankful”.
@@HowDoYouPronounceGIF oh yeah deff still used ww my brain went thought of "arigata ii" on smth else my bad
I actually thought about that while watching - if this is set over a thousand years ago, are the voice lines in an old version of Japanese? Is there a Kyoto accent? Not knowing Japanese myself, this comment was informative.
Vinny got reincarnated in heaven like 3 times wtf, he got a hell once and didn't get any of the other paths, I really want to see his reaction to the hungry ghost reincarnation
Chat getting shocked and feeling squeamish on the hell part is just priceless
This is how HELL was portrayed back then in the classic Japanese artstyle (and honestly not even that far off from Christiaan kind of hell portrayal either) so it's really unsurprising that it has pretty gory stuff in it honestly
@@Enecororo97 Exactly. I think all the cute monster girls and cute anime artstyle make people forget how gory the depiction of real monster/youkai and hell back then
@@Enecororo97 oh yeah, I randomly found that movie on DVD for 5$ years ago. I was surprised because Criterion films tend tend to be super expensive. Genuinely unsettling for a 1960 Japanese movie.
@@dvdlesher A lot of the depictions of monsters are straight up terrifying. They do a good job
i spent my childhood in asia (expat) and the depictions of that hellscape the just have as illustrations in some of their parks
Hieronymus Bosch's Hell paintings should be well know enough, they're bizarrely fucked up.
Everyone's a badass and immune to jumpscares, but when a samurai pulls out his katana on a kid...
The issue with the white text box in the game, has to do with the outdated DOSBox emulator you got from that repack post someone made on my abandonware website, cuz i tried running that and gotten the same results as well too.
So i instead found a more updated dosbox emu to replace it and once i did, i finally was able to text in anything in the textbox and everything else was running correctly too.
If you want i can send you my fixed one or unless you got someone else to do so for you or u good on playing it anymore.
Bump this
@@EmoDuck13 I was able to fix it just by using DOSBox-X instead of DOSBox, without having to change any game files or configuration. It seems like it really is just a bug in DOSBox, not the game itself.
you should probably email him this
Could i get the repack too? I'm dying to play this gime myself
If you're able to hook me up with how to play this game and add that fix I'll hit you with a Namu Amida Butsu
I love games like these so much, there's something so ethereal and unique about them. Thanks for introducing so many of them to me Mr. Vinny Vine
Same
You should check out harvester. I always wanted vinny to play it too.
@@sofern2681 Harvester is one of my favorites, unmatched atmosphere
@@Jaies_ YESSIR YESSIR
Like Sanitarium.
This game gives me a feeling of dread, like some fever nightmares I had as a kid. Much better than most horror games
Exactly this, this is the only type of scary stuff that can get me these days, everything else pales in comparison
@@elwiwi4638glad both of you aren’t completely dead inside.
I like this game. It's as if someone took Zork Nemesis and made it more about surreal creepiness rather than puzzle solving.
This might be an old game but feels really refreshing at the same, this kind of horror is incredibly unique, I'm amazed
it's because most modern horror is just the same thing over and over again, everyone seems to have decided that jumpscares are the scariest thing possible (they're not, they're literally the equivalent of coming up behind someone and yelling "boo!"), along with gratuitous (and often uncomfortably fetish-y) torture imagery. More subtle horror that relies on building a pervasive atmosphere of suspense and dread that never really gets resolved, being conceptually disturbing, as well as playing mind games with the audience, is a dying art, and in games it's practically already dead (FNaF I feel like really fucked everything up when it came to this, like jumpscares were already overutilized before, imho, but those games seemed to redefine horror as *just* jumpscares)
This game really messed me up. Especially with the "hot kool-aid" part, where the ogres were pouring molten gold into the man's throat. I know a lot of people saw it first from Game of Thrones, but It's a form of torture that started from ancient china, but also extends towards the roman era and Spanish inquisition, where they poured hot silver instead of gold down people's throats, and sometimes their ears and eyes. Really messed up stuff.
That's just classic portrayal of hell to be honest
Why are humans so messed up.
@@eveandaedrulCuriosity, passion, and rage. When you get all three of these in a species, you get horrific results. Dolphins and chimps also exhibit these traits to lesser capable degrees. They're also pretty savage, if you read into them. In humans, the more stress someone is under, the more dulled their empathy is. The less one cares about another, the more likely they are to be violent to anything they fear or disagree with. In knowing that, one must always be self aware. The past was stressful because of this lack of security and communication. It's not exactly great now, but, in comparison? We're having this conversation instead of struggling to secure food for the next night. We don't suspect we could be dead next month. We know we likely won't wake up to someone slitting our throats.
Hope Vinny revisits this at some point. It was unsettling as hell but perfect for Spooptober.
Weird and out of nowhere, but I'm pretty sure 38:26 is in reference to the practice of viewing horrifying images of decomposing bodies by monks as a method of deterring sexual urges. It really works!
Decomposing women to be exact.
This game is so fucking weird and cursed, perfect spooptober material 10/10
Vinny learning about Pure Land Buddhism was *not* on my October bingo.
I love that one samurai who was just chilling and saves you from a demon/goblin disguised as a woman. After seeing those who served the lord kill both an innocent child and you, just because of a minor disruption, seeing an actual good samurai do his job properly was really satisfying, even if it’s probably because he was just traveling and coincidentally met you.
what part is that?
@@unityofvitality-587545:32
I'm glad that it looks like I went to bed only minutes before the end of this. Probably one of the overall highlights for me; this game is amazing. Very strange and ominous, like The Museum of Anything Goes. The moment when the kid is murdered, and then we're all just waiting there, trying to process, with the eerie music in the background and the little sprite corpse on screen is going to take up space in my head forever.
Edit: Sorry, please try not to spoil things.
@@alobowithadhd6191 Bro just don't read the comments before hand 💀
@@alobowithadhd6191 Yeahhhhh this is a 30-year-old non-linear point and click game. And even if it wasn't, why are you reading the comments first? :/
@@alobowithadhd6191 Next time just try not to look at comments first, it may help you out.
Man, Japanese mythology tends to go fucking hard, don't it?
11:57 welcome to old japan
26:14 Suddenly these Voicelines are Uncompressed.
If anyones interested the title 京都千年物語 means Kyoto 1000 year story
I remember watching ManlyBadassHero play this years ago, I liked it so much that I've recomended it to multiple people even outside of just playing it just for spooptober, it really is just an amazing experience filled with so many esoterical mysteries, knowledge about real japanese figures and famous beliefs and tales of what demons are like in japanese folklore and mythology.
This game reminded me of the famous Worlds stream Vinny did so long ago. What an interesting piece of media
Old games have this uneasy atmosphere to them. It's hauntingly charming for sure
58:19 instantly thought vinny was messing with us lolll
Oh, this was a great game to stream. Cosmology of Kyoto is an incredibly strange and unique game. There's nothing else in the world like it.
I'm really glad I got to watch this live! Everything in this game is so surreal, vivid, and strange. I actually cracked up at how incredibly violent the animations are because I was so caught off guard. This game feels like being a stranger wandering around in the apocalypse.
This game was lowkey amazing. Way more unsettling than the actual horror games.
Like chat members were saying, THIS was the highlight of the night.
@@TrueLadyEvilChan true lol, got more creeped out on this game than every other indie horror games that's out.
@@dswizzy2946 almost all indie horror games are just glorified haunted houses with a gimmick.
This was actually haunting, the Japanese have great folklore that goes beyond just spooky bullshit that makes TH-camrs overreact.
Probably because it portrays a different perspective on japanese culture. Most of the time we see the things from glorified or beautiful perspectives, like in anime. Therefore, getting hit with this run-down, depressing and violent world catches us of guard. Of course the old depictions are still around, though we barely are confronted with it.
90s point and clicks are some of the most fascinating Vinesauce content. I still think about Burn Cycle. So much to the point where when Buddha showed up here I expected him to say "IT'S A BITCH"
46:31 Everything about this part plays perfectly lol
The worst part about this game? That samurai. Because things like that actually happened, and fairly often, especially when you get to the Sengoku era. This is the Heian period from what I can tell.
They were not honorable warriors, and neither were knights. They were brutal, trained killers.
it just dawned on me that the girl who was catching snakes was also the same girl who sold Vinny dried fish
gotdam
I think the most horrifying part of this game (to me at least) is how the Japanese people during this time genuinely lived like this; petrified of demons and living in a brutal caste system.
This game is cursed for real. I can't take these eyeballs.
After seeing this, I don't know why Vinny has never considered playing Snatcher? Would be definitely his kind of thing. Elements of blade runner, horror and more. Made by genius Kojumbo too.
Good lord, what a nightmare. I'm glad I never saw this game as a kid, because it would have truly traumatized me. MS-DOS games were always scary because they were so cryptic and weird to my child brain.
damn I saw this game on a iceberg image back in 2020, and seeing you play it 2 years later feels pretty crazy to me even though this is like one of those sunday stream games you would play
what iceberg? :0
@@mikotoh its the first image when you search "video game Iceberg" I can't post the link cuz youtube deletes my comment when I do that.
Vinny finally plays Yakuza
14:39 Oh that's why Vinny had a hard time progressing with the Buddhist monk after this. He needed to type "namamdabu" in the text box.
Great work from whoever translated this not giving a single hint to us. I know it's an old game but darn
@@Voc_spooksauce technically it did. But it was so much earlier there's no way you'd remember it
spoopy, cool, and has a speen water fairy, 10/10 game
god, after what happened to the kid and the girl, im so glad nothing happened to the dog. pretty sure vin felt the same way, too
7:51 Dark Souls message moment.
This game is amazing. There definitely should be more horror-edutainment games in this world.
I know this game thanks to very old 2012ish videos that talked about underground or not so well-known games, mostly PC point & click adventures, similar to Sluggish Morss, Eastern Mind: The Island of Tong Nou, etc, have been interested on it since it includes a lot about the Japanese culture, folklore and story (yet iirc they had to change some stuff like names of historical figures I think, even if it can be weird or grotesque I like the artstyle of the characters and the environments), still I'm glad that Vinny gave it a check because haven't been able to play it by myself
i think the collection chamber on blogspot might have a version of Cosmology of Kyoto that works out of the box?
It kind of reminded me of Shin Megami Tensei.
@@TrueLadyEvilChan and World of Horror
oh man this game is awesome and disgusting
This is revolting!
More?
Please!
Really hope he comes back to this with some bit of help so we can see everything. It's so interesting and ominous
I wasn't expecting this game to be genuinely so unsettling goddamn.
42:34 killed by butthead
Strange and unsettling, I want see more of it
What an awesome segment. I do hope Vin comes back to this one just for old times sake. I agree with him, I’ll probably never forget this game.
This game really knows how to get under your skin.
I love this game so much. Never in my life I would have thought I'd see Vinny play it. This is unreal.
It seems that horror games in Japan in the 80s and 90s were largely divided into two categories.
Exorcism in a suspicious place or Experience everything like an adventure game. For some reason, the main character(player) doesn't die.
And surprisingly, many people in the Western world are new to this and don't know that it was criticized as a mannerism at the time.
YO THIS IS THAT SHIT I LIVE FOR
Man I'd love a return to this it's super interesting.
I saw an in-depth video about this a few days ago. Then this popped up on the home page. No idea Vinny played this last year. This game is a trip and a half. Hope he does something like phantasmagoria or I have no mouth eventually.
Collection Chamber has a really simple download and installer for anyone that wants to play this.
OMG! I'm so excited to see him play this! I saw this years ago on ManlyBadassHero's page; love to see it get more playtime!
I love early 3d effect it just makes me go full nostalgia..specially playing so many pc games in the early 2000s
imagine your town was like this and you couldn't go to the bathroom at night cause there are demons everywhere
This game feels like a cursed fever dream that you dont want to play while you are ill and with a headache.
Man I've wanted to see this game being played for so long, what a treat
I was wondering why this name was familiar and then I saw the gameplay. I believe the World of Horror dev cited this as an inspiration for its aesthetic.
If we’re lucky maybe that game can also get an update in time before Spooptober ends
Man, this new SMT game looks pretty sick.
was not expecting the video at the end! wild (and educational of course) stream, thanks :)
5 months have passed, this is still one of my favourite streams of all time. I need to play this game
This has been the most profound experience on this channel.
museum of anything goes was pretty cool too
This was an excellent intro to the October celebration events with actual discomfort and disgust.
The space that is Kyoto works like a mirror that projects the depths of the human mind. You gotta come down to the club, man. Club Kyoto. It's got midgets, there's mirrors, there's frankfooters, there's Frankensteins, there's frank and beans, there's psychic journeys across a thousand years of space and time! It's in Manhattan. It's got everything! You gotta go!
Ava. Mendez.
paused the video and closed my laptop to go to work, opened it up several hours later and got jumpscared by the namu amida butsu guy
Religious horror is the scariest horror
This feels like my sleep paralysis demon made a point and click game on nights when I couldn't sleep
How many times do you see your Demy in a month?
This was based on actual real world folklore and history.
@@AzafuseKingTorano way really??????!?!?!!?!?!?!??!
This game looks like a really good way to look into how life in the medieval japan looked liked, and how people saw it
This game is so good at getting across just how fucked up the samurai and upwards could be as classes (though this did vary somewhat across time and place). Yeah, samurai aesthetics are undeniably cool as hell, but I doubt the lower classes really cared much about that when the samurai could do shit like *this* with relative impunity.
I will have nightmares about this, it's great.
New surrealsauce dropped
This was disturbing and I will now have nightmares
18:43 I second that idea for an emote, makes for a good one for October
I just noticed around 44:00 some of the screams are the same used by Eustace in Courage. I never knew those were stock.
the beginning of this game reminds me of incantation, scariest movie i’ve seen this year
Sometimes Japanese mythology in general feels like it came from another planet entirely. And this game perfectly encapsulates that.
i deeply respect this game for getting a bunch of pasty nerds to chant nembutsu
i hope theres more horror this spooktober! maybe some suda51? 🤩
I'd love a remaster of this with del toro directing or something because I love this.
This was awesome
i wanna see more of this it would be fun for vinny
such a great spooptober game, noice find
Ahh I see. This is why they call it the Twilight era.
Its amazing how Vin makes a joke about certain commercials. I wonder how many doses he took of that one thing from the same company since that one was totally different than everything else they sell right?
This reminds me a bit of the Inscape games, and that's not a bad thing imo
What a fascinating game.
Fascinating game
I seem to remember one of Manlybadasshero's oldest videos - at least 10 years old - is playing this game. He sounds so different yet the same lol.