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Hey, Shipwrecked 64 Dev here, and I wanted to apologize for the experience you've had. I wholeheartedly agree that I should have given more direction, that was on me, I figured that by saying the game was horror-related, players would draw the connection that there's something not right when they get a bad ending. I'm unsure of the full experience you had as I'm still watching, but based on the closing thoughts, I just wanna say that I'm sorry. I'll do better with my next projects. I should add, by the way, since someone mentioned that this is a video that is basically Game Theory bait, I'm not a huge fan of the channel and I'm not really interested in having a theory made on this game, I made it for part of an ARG i was working on, and last minute decided to release it onto Itch. I'm sorry if it came across like I was trying to capitalize, it was a year's worth of development and it was far before the trend of Found Footage horror became popular. I just chose an unfortunate time to release. Either way, that's all. I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the game.
Don't apologize for offering us a piece of your work and creativity, you did a great job, learn from the weaknesses of your project and please continue giving great content :)
@@Samusamu57 I'm gonna do the best I can, I'm already working on a followup that's more of an actual game than just walk-to-task-and-get-scared-simulator. I've made shooting mechanics, enemies, and everything, all accurate to that of an actual N64's control mapping. I'd be lying if i said I wasn't bummed out by the fact he didn't like it, but i'm gonna at least try to do better in hopes that the next game I put out will be more fun. I'm not mad at them, what they said about the game is 100% valid, I'm just mad at myself for putting the ARG elements over the actual game on my priority list. I'm definitely trying to fix that
@@SuperStar-ss1pn I mean tbf that's not really my fault, there's only so many things you can do to make a beaver look less like a bear when the style's so limiting
Hey man, I'm in agreement with Buscemi-- don't worry about one streamer's experience being the end-all-be-all of your project. While it's dope that you're taking it into account and seeing how you can improve, don't forget all the positive experiences people have had with your work! I was first exposed to Shipwrecked 64 through Manly's channel, and I'm certain I'm not the only person who felt genuinely intrigued by the story-- it's a good 'ole rabbit hole to fall down into, and it put you on the Cool Horror Dev radar for me. Not to mention judging by this comment, you care pretty deeply about your projects. So long as you keep creating, you will only get better and better. 👍
"You enter a spooky area. After going around in circles for fifteen minutes, you get startled by a squirrel and die of a heart attack. The life of a Great Ranger has ended".
Hey, On Your Hands is my game! It sucks Vinny didn't really get a chance to get to the actual horror segments, they tend to be buried deeper within each episode. Wasn't a great fit for the type of thing he was going for here, but I'll watch through the segment and write up a more full comment. Ah, yeah, that softlock in Map02 was identified after this video came out. That's since been fixed. Overall, I get where chat was coming from, the game does *look* like a walking simulator based on the first few levels alone. We're slowly easing the player into the puzzle and horror aspects; it's mostly just atmosphere building and story exposition. I hope Vinny might give this another chance in a format more conductive to the kind of game we're trying to go for.
I think it would make a great Sunday-type stream (for Vinny's type of content anyway)- it definitely looked like an interesting game. Even from the limited view I got watching Vinny play, I REALLY enjoyed the voice acting. :) Good luck on your future projects, dev!
@@warbossgegguz679 How possible or recognizable would those be? Plasma essentially gives the same look as OLED if it's not burned in, projection is just washed out maybe slightly blurry 480 - 720.
This game was found in the 90s behind a taco bell and gamestop. The card was so damage it took 30 years to repair it. This is what they could get from it.
He needs to play Deadly Premonition first. As a fan of David Lynch and bizarre crusty-yet-fun games astonished he hasn't played it yet. Literally the perfect game for Vinny imo.
I do think that certain games have their audience - ManlyBadassHero is one of those who thoroughly tries to get all the lore/endings of videogames, and Shipwrecked 64 is one of them, where as Vinny and others like RPGminx have played the same games like Manly and either didn't connect with or had any intention to want to get everything/see more than beyond the basic playthrough, which I think is fine all things considered. Vinny's expressed in multiple playthroughs through the years that he'll get what he can find as long as he's still engaged with it, but I don't expect the full playthrough/endings like Manly does, so it's cool to see demographic-wise how some games jive with people and others don't
Alisa is another really good PS1-style horror game, though it's around 4 hours long so I doubt Vinny would play it for this segment. It's a Resident Evil/Silent Hill clone with a victorian doll theme, since Vinny has liked both of those franchises I really think he'd enjoy it.
As someone who normally assumes PSX graphics are gonna be cheap thrill cash grab bs, I was genuinely impressed with Alisa both with the quality of the game and how far they went to make it actually feel like a 90s Survival horror game. The proper pre-rendered cutscenes were especially sick.
Omg yes I love that game, Vinny definitely needs to at least see it (if he hasn't already) A PROPER PS1 survival horror inspired game that actually tries to emulate that feel and doesn't just do it for a cheap nostalgia cash in or to be lazy with the graphics
@@QB_L Genuinely, you could have told me it was like a sourcenext port of a PSX game to PC a la the RE1, 2, and 3 ports and I might've believed you had I not known otherwise. The attention to detail between the cutscenes, internal resolution, and VA was crazy, yet it still has enough modern QOL to feel good. I don't usually care that much about presentation (in fact I'mkind of getting sick of the retro graphics thing in horror), but the attention to detail when it comes to trying to replicate that era as much as possible coupled with the fact that the game is an above average RE/SH style survival horror game makes it a huge recommendation to people looking for good spook.
A bit of a shame that Vin, as well as chat, lost interest in the Shipwrecked 64 game because the spoopy secrets that game has is wild. Understandable if it didn’t float since it would have taken more than the given time of this segment to explore what it offered (I am a sucker for these seemingly innocent games turning more sinister as it progresses).
Yeah, but then again I can't really blame him, there should have been better instructions I feel, I kind of just imagined people would make the connection of "Hey, the game said it was horror, but there was nothing scary, i'll try again but do something different". I should've accounted for the fact that wasn't obvious.
@@orelpuppington5846 Thanks man, i'm glad you guys at least aren't being too harsh about it. I'm definitely not good at gamedev yet, I'm 17 and just barely moved from Clickteam, so I've got a lot to figure out before I'm able to make anything that's really all that good
I hate to say it, but watching this whole segment both live and now just reminds me why I'm so jaded about 95% of indie horror games and why I don't usually look for them on itch anymore. Everything feels like it's either a walking sim but "spooky", le dark eversion "innocent turned evil" game, or just running around and hiding from an insta-kill jumpscare monster because "vulnerable = scary" (thanks Outlast and Amnesia). And thanks to Puppet Combo everything has a bunch of crust filters because it's supposedly scarier (and, ya know, cheaper to make). I know not all horror games have to be lock-step traditional survival horror, but this current glut of cheap thrills ain't doin it for me. There's a few bright spots like Tormented Souls, Them and Us, Fobia, Alisa, Remorse the List, and interesting experimental stuff like Little Nightmares that are all great, but there's just SO MUCH generic and cheap stuff that it feels as barren as browsing through budget horror movies looking for a decent one.
I'll also throw The Enigma Machine and Mothered into the pile of good indie horror (I think they're indie anyway). They're kinda the le inversion type but it's clear from the offset that something's wrong, the games are about figuring out what and have some pretty good twists
@@naransolongoboldbayer8030 I'll have to check that one out. I think the main problem with a lot of Inversion type games is that it's so highly telegraphed from the start, and that the devs tend to lose focus on the actual game and subverting expectations. I said this to the dev of Shipwrecked, but something like Toree 3D comes to mind when I think of a good attempt at it because it genuinely seems like there's 0 going on from the outset, and when things do go dark it's jarring but doesn't detract from the actual gameplay.
Security Booth was pretty interesting, while being short and not exactly scary I think it nailed the paranoid atmosphere of working a night shift at one. Also the endings were fun.
@@NekkoBlue That one was a good short cinematic experience. Not really my cup of tea, but I can at least see the appeal and there was decent production value. Sort of like Stanley Parable, but spooky. And I mean, it's 5 bucks. It's inoffensive and quaint, and it's not trying to set itself up as anything grander. As said, I'm more of a Survival Horror type of guy, though I can get down with weird and experimental stuff. Problem is both of those are fairly lacking in the current indie horror scene. Most of it is stuff clinging to what's trendy. Hell, I look up survival horror games on steam and like 75% of what I get is either asymmetric MP games, Phasmophobia clones, FNAF and derivatives, Rust but with "spooky" stuff, or games like Outlast or Amnesia where the only strategy is run and hide until the spooky goes away. They all just feel so shallow... It's ironic given the whole reason indie horror blew up in the early 2010s was because Capcom, Tecmo, and Konami fumbled the ball for so long, yet nowadays most indie horror games feel more like streamer bait cinematic games or just constant derivatives of whatever is trendy. Meanwhile AAA horror is doing better than it had been in a decade.
I can't hear the title "Our Lady of Sorrow" without thinking of the MCR song, tbh. Though I will admit the line "how wrong we were to think that immortality meant never dying" sounds like a good horror prompt
catching up on my spooptober-- man i am so glad chat came through with some reccomendations! i see darkwood made it in- i'm super hype to watch that. :) thank you vin, johnny, & everyone who makes vinny's content creation possible ♥
I swear I'd watch Vinny's streams more if it weren't for the fact that his chat throws a complete fucking tantrum whenever anything on the screen isn't a complete 10/10.
Our Lady of Sorrow relies too much on the VHS effect to the point that it’s hammed up. Do you think a church would take the time to program a cassette to have the VCR text in it instead of cheesy home made dollar budget church graphics? And why is the bad tape getting wiggly corrupted and repeating text? It’s a tape, not sonic.exe. I honestly felt like it was using the filter because they saw it and thought it looked spooky because it was from technology 10 years before they were born 😅
I think Shipwrecked 64 could have made the friend missions much harder to complete in order to see the spooky stuff, but still possible to do correctly if you really wanted to and it'd, IMO, have been a better experience. If you ask the player to collect treasure, coconuts, etc then they're gonna do it unless willingly being silly so missing all of the point of your game by unknowingly doing the "wrong" thing is kinda ehhh. There's definitely something here, but, again IMO, with some slight changes to make the horror stuff more likely to be seen on a first playthrough would do wonders.
I also think the fact that there isn't really anything spooky on a "all success" playthrough was a mistake. In any other game, it would have been more clear that's the BAD ending. Like maybe a scene over/after the credits suggesting there's something the player missed, as opposed to just acting like nothing else is afoot
Oh, neat! I know the people that made On Your Hands. Really cool to see it on this channel. It definitely gets spookier later, probably too long for a multi-game segment.
the oyh devs JUST found out about this, apparently the game wasnt submitted for the spooptober, the mods mustve just picked it out of previous submissions
I think what makes Vinny playing game collections work for me, is that he doesn't play too much of each game, which gives you a good introduction if you want to try them out for yourself.
“Technical limitations add to a game’s whole vibe” - Totally agree! Some of the older stuff is menacing beyond intention, due to its limitations. A case-in-point would be Ecstatica, which is warped and unnerving anyway, but is made more sinister by its primitive graphics. Or Weird Dreams, which is enough to give you nightmares.
I think it's very much a matter of how the primitive graphics are used and how committed the game is to them. The games on display here though are not a good example of how that can work. I don't hate retro-inspired visuals, I hate when a game acts like that automatically makes things spooky without trying very hard.
It's a shame Vinny didn't get to experience Shipwrecked 3D the way it was meant to be experienced. I liked it, tbh. It's great for a first game, especially from a teenager. There are definitely things that could be improved, obviously, but it's not all that bad. I hope the dev comes up with more games in the future.
Yeah that concept would've worked if they were actually harder, either a shorter time limit or some other augment, that way to get the "good ending" where everything's fine is actually a bonus whereas the horror elements become more forced the more you fail.
It begins, Spooktober 2022! Orange leaves, skeletons comin’ out, and SPOOP GAMES! I wonder if Vinny will delve into Silent Hill 4 this year, besides the Tommy Wiseau jokes I just think it would mesh pretty well with the chill spoop vibes. A revisit to Spooky’s Jumpscare Mansion some day considering all of the updates would be neat too. Maybe Endless Mode? That way he can witness the Speicmen changes AND the Endless-exclusive Specimens!
He's mentioned somewhere on the stream recently that he's most probably not going to play Silent Hill 4 this year and I'm inclined to believe that. To be honest, I'm not sure if I'd want to see him play it... because SH4 is, objectively, quite convoluted, a bit draggy, overly cryptic, and he will get a bad ending if chat doesn't backseat him really hard.
A miracle port was starCraft 64, I don't know how they managed to get that many sound effects for a game like that to work mostly and the compression wasn't too bad either.
I'm not into analog horror at all, but some of the death screens from Shipwrecked 64 were genuinely pretty unnerving. It's a shame Vinny experienced the game the way he did.
@@cowboyluigi5275 His boomer shooters and dad music is just our speed. The Granny Coalition started following his career after Cyber Grannies, you know
Heres a challenge for all the horror game developers of today Make a horror game that actually scares people, without vhs effects and ps1 style If you dont, i infinite dog dare you.
I don't get why people supposedly find the 32/64 bit visuals inherently creepier. If anything for me it takes shit straight OUT of the uncanny valley into silly turf. And it's annoying because limited graphics can be creepy af if you did something like Siren/Forbidden Siren, but they all go for just generic PSX visuals and models, but don't commit to the aesthetic enough for it to be convincing or interesting. The only exception that comes to mind is Alisa, but the rest seem to do it just because it's trendy and cost effective.
Idk if it’s just me but I’d rather see Vinny play a cheesy Halloween themed game then something that’s actually meant to be scary. Like do you remember 2 years ago when he played that super cheesy fmv Halloween game I wouldn’t mind more fun stuff like that.
I would love if vinny played Deadly Premonition or more comedy horror games. My favorite genre of horror (since I already can't take horror very seriously 90% of the time).
I know a lot of people are tired of the analogue horror vhs schtick.. but I'm NOT! I eat that stuff up like candy. Its been a long long time since there's been a fad that i've actually really liked.
Shipwrecked64 is such a peaceful game! Weird people find it scary (kappa). For real, each of these games sort of show how the "retro walking sim" game style can't succeed as a horror game alone if the unnerving stuff is too spaced out and the graphical limitations are only there to make "old thing is scary because old." Putting them all together like this, after Kyoto was not the fault of the game designers, but just seeing one game, from the 90's even, out shine them in genuine creepiness.
The chat during this stream and the comments on this VOD are a great reminder that most of the Vinesauce community still thinks 2009 /b/ was the peak of comedy
man, that vhs crust sound effect during the non-gameplay bits of our lady of sorrow was extremely grating, it was way too loud and persistent. i had to skip all those parts which completely took away from the experience :(
No, they do. This was just genuinely a terrible roundup of games when it comes to "quick horror games" 1 was borderline comically generic, 1 was too big for the stream, 1 was an ARG, and the last one was a first person platformer. If you're looking for good horror in small bursts, this was a terrible collection.
I dunno why some games still think it's a good idea to have "PRESS BUTTON TO SKIP" on the screen indefinitely, and not just appear when you press a button or something, it's ugly.
shame there were fairly few spooks, but each of these games are either great on their own (Nowhere, MI and On Your Hands), or have good ideas, but fall short in execution and spookiness (Shipwrecked64, Our Lady of Sorrow). I think the devs of Shipwrecked and Our Lady can make something better in the future, but both games felt like they missed the mark in different areas.
Apparently it was a first game from a teenage dev who did a lot of it themselves, which makes it even more... I dont really want to say impressive as much as promising.
I am so tired of ""VHS""/ps1 style horror games. They are basically 0 effort gameplay for a style gimmick. AND HALF OF THEM ARE MADE BY THE SAME PERSON I'M PRETTY SURE??? stop playing them streamers pls its so boring
@@SqueakDCorgeh I mean, idk if you're new to Vinesauce, but vinny has finished and played plenty of longform stuff over the course of several sunday streams. They're just not usually ARG related. That's more Jeff/Vidyabum's turf.
@@SqueakDCorgeh I'll tell you what, I'm just some rando, but I'm not at that part of the stream yet, but I will give it a go! Too bad I know it's an Eversion-Type (?) in advance, but... We'll see what happens! I will let you know what I think
@@SqueakDCorgeh Thanks for the reminder, actually. Very long day, but once night falls... I'll check out that shipwreck... And I will let you know! I have played... like, all of these kinds of games, so I promise my "review" will be in good faith!
Barnyard seemed fine to me. I could tell he enjoyed Kyoto, it just wasn't a game that warranted funny reactions due to its weird nature, and he was having a good time with Nowhere, MI. I think he was just disappointed ending the night with this section since the games weren't what he was expecting.
He liked both Cosmology of Kyoto and Security Booth, what are you talking about? He sounds tired at the end of the stream because (having been there live) it was past 1 AM. He was bored with the indies other than Nowhere MI though, and reasonably so imo.
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SPOOPTOBER 2022 YESSS!
THX VINNY!!
first chat message is from "AmogusToilet"
nice
Hey, Shipwrecked 64 Dev here, and I wanted to apologize for the experience you've had. I wholeheartedly agree that I should have given more direction, that was on me, I figured that by saying the game was horror-related, players would draw the connection that there's something not right when they get a bad ending. I'm unsure of the full experience you had as I'm still watching, but based on the closing thoughts, I just wanna say that I'm sorry. I'll do better with my next projects.
I should add, by the way, since someone mentioned that this is a video that is basically Game Theory bait, I'm not a huge fan of the channel and I'm not really interested in having a theory made on this game, I made it for part of an ARG i was working on, and last minute decided to release it onto Itch. I'm sorry if it came across like I was trying to capitalize, it was a year's worth of development and it was far before the trend of Found Footage horror became popular. I just chose an unfortunate time to release.
Either way, that's all. I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the game.
Don't apologize for offering us a piece of your work and creativity, you did a great job, learn from the weaknesses of your project and please continue giving great content :)
@@Samusamu57 I'm gonna do the best I can, I'm already working on a followup that's more of an actual game than just walk-to-task-and-get-scared-simulator. I've made shooting mechanics, enemies, and everything, all accurate to that of an actual N64's control mapping.
I'd be lying if i said I wasn't bummed out by the fact he didn't like it, but i'm gonna at least try to do better in hopes that the next game I put out will be more fun. I'm not mad at them, what they said about the game is 100% valid, I'm just mad at myself for putting the ARG elements over the actual game on my priority list. I'm definitely trying to fix that
I doubt he'd enjoy it much I mean he called bucky a freddy
@@SuperStar-ss1pn I mean tbf that's not really my fault, there's only so many things you can do to make a beaver look less like a bear when the style's so limiting
Hey man, I'm in agreement with Buscemi-- don't worry about one streamer's experience being the end-all-be-all of your project. While it's dope that you're taking it into account and seeing how you can improve, don't forget all the positive experiences people have had with your work! I was first exposed to Shipwrecked 64 through Manly's channel, and I'm certain I'm not the only person who felt genuinely intrigued by the story-- it's a good 'ole rabbit hole to fall down into, and it put you on the Cool Horror Dev radar for me.
Not to mention judging by this comment, you care pretty deeply about your projects. So long as you keep creating, you will only get better and better. 👍
Vinny trying SOOOOOOOOOOO hard not to sound disappointed with the games falling short of expectations for the segment.
as soon as i saw the shitty overwhelming VHS filters on the first one I lost all hope of any of these being good. it's all the same shit.
Nowhere was the only good one
"You enter a spooky area. After going around in circles for fifteen minutes, you get startled by a squirrel and die of a heart attack. The life of a Great Ranger has ended".
Hey, On Your Hands is my game!
It sucks Vinny didn't really get a chance to get to the actual horror segments, they tend to be buried deeper within each episode. Wasn't a great fit for the type of thing he was going for here, but I'll watch through the segment and write up a more full comment.
Ah, yeah, that softlock in Map02 was identified after this video came out. That's since been fixed.
Overall, I get where chat was coming from, the game does *look* like a walking simulator based on the first few levels alone. We're slowly easing the player into the puzzle and horror aspects; it's mostly just atmosphere building and story exposition. I hope Vinny might give this another chance in a format more conductive to the kind of game we're trying to go for.
A shame he didn't even get to the two-hand gameplay!
I think it would make a great Sunday-type stream (for Vinny's type of content anyway)- it definitely looked like an interesting game. Even from the limited view I got watching Vinny play, I REALLY enjoyed the voice acting. :) Good luck on your future projects, dev!
Maybe it just needs a more obvious hook for the short attention-spanners...
I like it.
Don't worry
three years from 1998 dvd will become mainstream and then you can get all the 480i crust you could ever want
We're gonna go from CRT to Projection/Plasma filters probably too.
@@warbossgegguz679 How possible or recognizable would those be? Plasma essentially gives the same look as OLED if it's not burned in, projection is just washed out maybe slightly blurry 480 - 720.
Nowhere, MI had some very “Vinny video game” dialogue lol, looking forward to seeing more of it!
This game was found in the 90s behind a taco bell and gamestop. The card was so damage it took 30 years to repair it. This is what they could get from it.
It wasn't worth it
All these games have a combined 5 polygons.
LOL
From the crust we are born and to the crust we shall return.
There is nothing new under the crust.
The crust of a tan man imbibed by the sand
Fear the old Crust
If Vinny doesn't play Harvester this year I'm going to drink all the toilet water
He really was a kiddler
He needs to play Deadly Premonition first. As a fan of David Lynch and bizarre crusty-yet-fun games astonished he hasn't played it yet. Literally the perfect game for Vinny imo.
I'd recommend stocking up on some crystal light. Their cherry pomegranate flavor is pretty tasty.
You were always a kidder fiendishshape
This but if he doesn’t do Silent Hill 4 (I haven’t watched this VOD idk if he says that here)
I do think that certain games have their audience - ManlyBadassHero is one of those who thoroughly tries to get all the lore/endings of videogames, and Shipwrecked 64 is one of them, where as Vinny and others like RPGminx have played the same games like Manly and either didn't connect with or had any intention to want to get everything/see more than beyond the basic playthrough, which I think is fine all things considered. Vinny's expressed in multiple playthroughs through the years that he'll get what he can find as long as he's still engaged with it, but I don't expect the full playthrough/endings like Manly does, so it's cool to see demographic-wise how some games jive with people and others don't
Alisa is another really good PS1-style horror game, though it's around 4 hours long so I doubt Vinny would play it for this segment. It's a Resident Evil/Silent Hill clone with a victorian doll theme, since Vinny has liked both of those franchises I really think he'd enjoy it.
As someone who normally assumes PSX graphics are gonna be cheap thrill cash grab bs, I was genuinely impressed with Alisa both with the quality of the game and how far they went to make it actually feel like a 90s Survival horror game. The proper pre-rendered cutscenes were especially sick.
Omg yes I love that game, Vinny definitely needs to at least see it (if he hasn't already)
A PROPER PS1 survival horror inspired game that actually tries to emulate that feel and doesn't just do it for a cheap nostalgia cash in or to be lazy with the graphics
@@QB_L Genuinely, you could have told me it was like a sourcenext port of a PSX game to PC a la the RE1, 2, and 3 ports and I might've believed you had I not known otherwise. The attention to detail between the cutscenes, internal resolution, and VA was crazy, yet it still has enough modern QOL to feel good.
I don't usually care that much about presentation (in fact I'mkind of getting sick of the retro graphics thing in horror), but the attention to detail when it comes to trying to replicate that era as much as possible coupled with the fact that the game is an above average RE/SH style survival horror game makes it a huge recommendation to people looking for good spook.
A bit of a shame that Vin, as well as chat, lost interest in the Shipwrecked 64 game because the spoopy secrets that game has is wild. Understandable if it didn’t float since it would have taken more than the given time of this segment to explore what it offered (I am a sucker for these seemingly innocent games turning more sinister as it progresses).
Yeah, but then again I can't really blame him, there should have been better instructions I feel, I kind of just imagined people would make the connection of "Hey, the game said it was horror, but there was nothing scary, i'll try again but do something different". I should've accounted for the fact that wasn't obvious.
I will give him that ya, what to do to see the spoops is very obtuse and kinda annoying.
@@orelpuppington5846 Well, they're easy, you just fail the tasks. They're just so badly explained. Again, that's a problem on my end I've got to fix
@@SqueakDCorgeh godspeed fellow Dev.
@@orelpuppington5846 Thanks man, i'm glad you guys at least aren't being too harsh about it. I'm definitely not good at gamedev yet, I'm 17 and just barely moved from Clickteam, so I've got a lot to figure out before I'm able to make anything that's really all that good
I hate to say it, but watching this whole segment both live and now just reminds me why I'm so jaded about 95% of indie horror games and why I don't usually look for them on itch anymore. Everything feels like it's either a walking sim but "spooky", le dark eversion "innocent turned evil" game, or just running around and hiding from an insta-kill jumpscare monster because "vulnerable = scary" (thanks Outlast and Amnesia). And thanks to Puppet Combo everything has a bunch of crust filters because it's supposedly scarier (and, ya know, cheaper to make).
I know not all horror games have to be lock-step traditional survival horror, but this current glut of cheap thrills ain't doin it for me.
There's a few bright spots like Tormented Souls, Them and Us, Fobia, Alisa, Remorse the List, and interesting experimental stuff like Little Nightmares that are all great, but there's just SO MUCH generic and cheap stuff that it feels as barren as browsing through budget horror movies looking for a decent one.
I'll also throw The Enigma Machine and Mothered into the pile of good indie horror (I think they're indie anyway). They're kinda the le inversion type but it's clear from the offset that something's wrong, the games are about figuring out what and have some pretty good twists
Growing your grandpa
@@naransolongoboldbayer8030 I'll have to check that one out. I think the main problem with a lot of Inversion type games is that it's so highly telegraphed from the start, and that the devs tend to lose focus on the actual game and subverting expectations. I said this to the dev of Shipwrecked, but something like Toree 3D comes to mind when I think of a good attempt at it because it genuinely seems like there's 0 going on from the outset, and when things do go dark it's jarring but doesn't detract from the actual gameplay.
Security Booth was pretty interesting, while being short and not exactly scary I think it nailed the paranoid atmosphere of working a night shift at one. Also the endings were fun.
@@NekkoBlue That one was a good short cinematic experience. Not really my cup of tea, but I can at least see the appeal and there was decent production value. Sort of like Stanley Parable, but spooky. And I mean, it's 5 bucks.
It's inoffensive and quaint, and it's not trying to set itself up as anything grander.
As said, I'm more of a Survival Horror type of guy, though I can get down with weird and experimental stuff. Problem is both of those are fairly lacking in the current indie horror scene. Most of it is stuff clinging to what's trendy. Hell, I look up survival horror games on steam and like 75% of what I get is either asymmetric MP games, Phasmophobia clones, FNAF and derivatives, Rust but with "spooky" stuff, or games like Outlast or Amnesia where the only strategy is run and hide until the spooky goes away. They all just feel so shallow...
It's ironic given the whole reason indie horror blew up in the early 2010s was because Capcom, Tecmo, and Konami fumbled the ball for so long, yet nowadays most indie horror games feel more like streamer bait cinematic games or just constant derivatives of whatever is trendy. Meanwhile AAA horror is doing better than it had been in a decade.
I can't hear the title "Our Lady of Sorrow" without thinking of the MCR song, tbh. Though I will admit the line "how wrong we were to think that immortality meant never dying" sounds like a good horror prompt
Oh ha ha, they're looking for truffles because they're pigs (Nowhere, MI)
It begins! I love the Spooptober videos, they are the highlight of my October ❤️
catching up on my spooptober-- man i am so glad chat came through with some reccomendations! i see darkwood made it in- i'm super hype to watch that. :) thank you vin, johnny, & everyone who makes vinny's content creation possible ♥
I swear I'd watch Vinny's streams more if it weren't for the fact that his chat throws a complete fucking tantrum whenever anything on the screen isn't a complete 10/10.
that our lady of sorrow game is about as scary as a trip to the museum, with half as much gameplay
Even a trip to the museum would be more interesting...don't you remember "The Museum of Anything Goes"? :P
Nowhere, MI is slowly becoming one of my most antecipated games. Right there with Silksong and Tears of the Kingdom.
And Peeb's adventure too!
Honestly I think this was a really fun segment, because it was funny how Vinny was trying to find the horror in these horror games
Our Lady of Sorrow relies too much on the VHS effect to the point that it’s hammed up. Do you think a church would take the time to program a cassette to have the VCR text in it instead of cheesy home made dollar budget church graphics? And why is the bad tape getting wiggly corrupted and repeating text? It’s a tape, not sonic.exe.
I honestly felt like it was using the filter because they saw it and thought it looked spooky because it was from technology 10 years before they were born 😅
I think Shipwrecked 64 could have made the friend missions much harder to complete in order to see the spooky stuff, but still possible to do correctly if you really wanted to and it'd, IMO, have been a better experience. If you ask the player to collect treasure, coconuts, etc then they're gonna do it unless willingly being silly so missing all of the point of your game by unknowingly doing the "wrong" thing is kinda ehhh. There's definitely something here, but, again IMO, with some slight changes to make the horror stuff more likely to be seen on a first playthrough would do wonders.
I also think the fact that there isn't really anything spooky on a "all success" playthrough was a mistake. In any other game, it would have been more clear that's the BAD ending. Like maybe a scene over/after the credits suggesting there's something the player missed, as opposed to just acting like nothing else is afoot
I can confirm that Nowhere, MI is exactly what living in Michigan is like.
Oh, neat! I know the people that made On Your Hands. Really cool to see it on this channel. It definitely gets spookier later, probably too long for a multi-game segment.
the oyh devs JUST found out about this, apparently the game wasnt submitted for the spooptober, the mods mustve just picked it out of previous submissions
@@_kieran_6875 Unfortunate that it got lumped into this segment, but I'm glad it got featured at all :)
@@snugglebunnyskullcrusher yeah, skull emailed vinny to maybe see if he could do a longer segment or something
I think what makes Vinny playing game collections work for me, is that he doesn't play too much of each game, which gives you a good introduction if you want to try them out for yourself.
At the first game: SHOW, DON'T TELL! SWEET CRIMINY!
That nowhere mi game has some huge space funeral/crypt worlds vibes
“Technical limitations add to a game’s whole vibe” - Totally agree! Some of the older stuff is menacing beyond intention, due to its limitations. A case-in-point would be Ecstatica, which is warped and unnerving anyway, but is made more sinister by its primitive graphics. Or Weird Dreams, which is enough to give you nightmares.
I think it's very much a matter of how the primitive graphics are used and how committed the game is to them. The games on display here though are not a good example of how that can work. I don't hate retro-inspired visuals, I hate when a game acts like that automatically makes things spooky without trying very hard.
the vhs one made my eyes feel like they had bad bitrate
God, I want Nowhere, MI’s soundtrack so so bad
I just want the full game to be released. Finding the secrets were good fun and the gameplay itself is also very fun
That shoegaze on the main menu had me feelin' things
@lettuce thank you so much omg
It's a shame Vinny didn't get to experience Shipwrecked 3D the way it was meant to be experienced. I liked it, tbh. It's great for a first game, especially from a teenager. There are definitely things that could be improved, obviously, but it's not all that bad. I hope the dev comes up with more games in the future.
What do you mean, he experienced it the way it was presented. The dev even admitted this.
@@Vaguer_Weevil calm down buddy, you’re commenting everywhere about the dev. keep the obsessing to a minimum
@@scrung
You mean this and the one comment directly to the dev? I guess 2 is a pretty high number if you can't count.
@@Vaguer_Weevil ummm ur mad & jealous 😜
I feel like shipwreckeds content should'nt have been hidden behind failure because the mini games are piss easy
Yeah that concept would've worked if they were actually harder, either a shorter time limit or some other augment, that way to get the "good ending" where everything's fine is actually a bonus whereas the horror elements become more forced the more you fail.
It begins, Spooktober 2022! Orange leaves, skeletons comin’ out, and SPOOP GAMES!
I wonder if Vinny will delve into Silent Hill 4 this year, besides the Tommy Wiseau jokes I just think it would mesh pretty well with the chill spoop vibes.
A revisit to Spooky’s Jumpscare Mansion some day considering all of the updates would be neat too. Maybe Endless Mode? That way he can witness the Speicmen changes AND the Endless-exclusive Specimens!
He's mentioned somewhere on the stream recently that he's most probably not going to play Silent Hill 4 this year and I'm inclined to believe that. To be honest, I'm not sure if I'd want to see him play it... because SH4 is, objectively, quite convoluted, a bit draggy, overly cryptic, and he will get a bad ending if chat doesn't backseat him really hard.
@@Mike_Whickdale ok but why is it bad to get the bad ending tho
@@rando843 it's not bad, it's just a fact ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
been waiting for this all year
Really hope Vinny revisits some of these in the future, namely shipwrecked 64
Why does Nowhere, MI remind me so much of Le Fantabulous Game from 2015?
That and Cryptworlds.
It's all the flat green plains + quirky dialog.
My BF worked on On Your Hands actually, super cool that Vinny played it!
Who, @SkullCrusher? it looked like a fun game - that was a good preview
Some solid vinespooks you got there. October 👻👻👻
Wish more could be done to help Vinny's hearing, that's gotta be rough on them, I appreciate their work on the streams.
39:02 is that the track "some music" from jordan go to sleep's "This is my house" video?
A miracle port was starCraft 64, I don't know how they managed to get that many sound effects for a game like that to work mostly and the compression wasn't too bad either.
Crazy they fit both the original and Brood War campaign on one cart.
I'm not into analog horror at all, but some of the death screens from Shipwrecked 64 were genuinely pretty unnerving. It's a shame Vinny experienced the game the way he did.
College stuff caught up, pumpkin spice coffee by my side, warm fuzzy socks on, crochet project in lap... I'm ready to check out some spookiness
God I wish that was me
had no idea grandmas watched vinny!
@@cowboyluigi5275 His boomer shooters and dad music is just our speed. The Granny Coalition started following his career after Cyber Grannies, you know
I read it as "crotch-et" at first
Heres a challenge for all the horror game developers of today
Make a horror game that actually scares people, without vhs effects and ps1 style
If you dont, i infinite dog dare you.
I don't get why people supposedly find the 32/64 bit visuals inherently creepier. If anything for me it takes shit straight OUT of the uncanny valley into silly turf. And it's annoying because limited graphics can be creepy af if you did something like Siren/Forbidden Siren, but they all go for just generic PSX visuals and models, but don't commit to the aesthetic enough for it to be convincing or interesting.
The only exception that comes to mind is Alisa, but the rest seem to do it just because it's trendy and cost effective.
still waiting for the spoops
Idk if it’s just me but I’d rather see Vinny play a cheesy Halloween themed game then something that’s actually meant to be scary. Like do you remember 2 years ago when he played that super cheesy fmv Halloween game I wouldn’t mind more fun stuff like that.
I would love if vinny played Deadly Premonition or more comedy horror games. My favorite genre of horror (since I already can't take horror very seriously 90% of the time).
I'm sorry, what? A monastery built in 1458 being subjected to viking raids? Almost 400 years after the end of the Viking age? Lol.
I know a lot of people are tired of the analogue horror vhs schtick.. but I'm NOT!
I eat that stuff up like candy. Its been a long long time since there's been a fad that i've actually really liked.
when will we get to the horror DVD and horror Blue Ray stuff
@@ghoulbuster1 fish is USB
i would understand if any of them did something new
It's a shame you can't fix the tracking on that vcr.
Shipwrecked64 is such a peaceful game! Weird people find it scary (kappa).
For real, each of these games sort of show how the "retro walking sim" game style can't succeed as a horror game alone if the unnerving stuff is too spaced out and the graphical limitations are only there to make "old thing is scary because old." Putting them all together like this, after Kyoto was not the fault of the game designers, but just seeing one game, from the 90's even, out shine them in genuine creepiness.
Gnorts, please protect us from these spoopy games, forever octobers to come.
Ayylmao.
I love that the thumbnail face is just Sids dog from Toy Story 1. The eyes made me lol
I hope one day Vinny plays SCP containment breach
Someone mentioning ManlyBadassHero made my day. Thank you, chat member.
The chat during this stream and the comments on this VOD are a great reminder that most of the Vinesauce community still thinks 2009 /b/ was the peak of comedy
epic troll
I hope your comment goes viral
By the way have you heard of this great new song called Friday, by Rebecca Black?
I don't even know what this is supposed to mean. I was 11 in 2009.
Are you saying comedy is better now by comparison? Outed yourself, zoomer
No one pointing out the Xen lights from On Your Hands
The sad thing is that Shipwrecked _does_ get genuinely spooky if you know what you're doing... Ah well.
Yeah... if you play the game "right" nothing goes "wrong"
*_DISCLAIMER:_*_ don't forget to fup it up!_
man, that vhs crust sound effect during the non-gameplay bits of our lady of sorrow was extremely grating, it was way too loud and persistent. i had to skip all those parts which completely took away from the experience :(
My favorite part of the year
Best month
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1:02:26 Sounds an awful lot like the Tomb Raider 2 floating islands theme.
This Spooptober is not starting off strong.
I don't think I've seen chat ever say anything positive about a horror game, chat literally complains more than game journalists
It's almost like 99% of indie "horror" is just the same hilariously silly regurgitated nonsense.
No, they do. This was just genuinely a terrible roundup of games when it comes to "quick horror games" 1 was borderline comically generic, 1 was too big for the stream, 1 was an ARG, and the last one was a first person platformer. If you're looking for good horror in small bursts, this was a terrible collection.
54:30 Sounds like a pitched-up Sphere Hunter!
I dunno why some games still think it's a good idea to have "PRESS BUTTON TO SKIP" on the screen indefinitely, and not just appear when you press a button or something, it's ugly.
shame there were fairly few spooks, but each of these games are either great on their own (Nowhere, MI and On Your Hands), or have good ideas, but fall short in execution and spookiness (Shipwrecked64, Our Lady of Sorrow). I think the devs of Shipwrecked and Our Lady can make something better in the future, but both games felt like they missed the mark in different areas.
It's the most wonderful time of the year
You should play the building 71 incident it is a “found footage” game that’s very unsettling
shipwrecked has potential
Apparently it was a first game from a teenage dev who did a lot of it themselves, which makes it even more... I dont really want to say impressive as much as promising.
YEAH SPOOPTOBER
No, don't go to Michigan, not even as a joke ;-;
pls more creatively bankrupt horrer games, bonus point if its theory bait
resident evil 2 on the n64 is literal black magic witchcraft
I am so tired of ""VHS""/ps1 style horror games. They are basically 0 effort gameplay for a style gimmick.
AND HALF OF THEM ARE MADE BY THE SAME PERSON I'M PRETTY SURE??? stop playing them streamers pls its so boring
Vance, push the up arrow key on the numpad to jump in the first game. Thank me later.
Did they never make the next worm game?
U better finish shipwrecked 64
or else what?
@@warbossgegguz679 ill be s ad :C
@@Hamburgaga I don’t think he’s interested in long form games like SW64
@@SqueakDCorgeh I mean, idk if you're new to Vinesauce, but vinny has finished and played plenty of longform stuff over the course of several sunday streams. They're just not usually ARG related. That's more Jeff/Vidyabum's turf.
@@warbossgegguz679 Ah, okay I see, yeah admittedly I’m kinda new here, I enjoy the content but I’m not a frequent viewer per-se
ah shit here we go again
I'm kind of amazed how disappointed he was. I liked the last 3 games and thought On Your Hands was more horror than Nowhere, MI...
bc he has played almost 30 other games just like them
SPOOKS! ITS SPOOK TIME
Shipwrecked 64 should have it's own stream
Wholeheartedly agree, I put a lot of stuff in there that usually most players miss on their first run
@@SqueakDCorgeh I'll tell you what, I'm just some rando, but I'm not at that part of the stream yet, but I will give it a go!
Too bad I know it's an Eversion-Type (?) in advance, but...
We'll see what happens! I will let you know what I think
@@RedSpade37 if you do, lemme know! Curious to hear what you think
@@SqueakDCorgeh Thanks for the reminder, actually. Very long day, but once night falls...
I'll check out that shipwreck...
And I will let you know!
I have played... like, all of these kinds of games, so I promise my "review" will be in good faith!
I'm guessing whoever put shipwrecked 64 in the pack had the safe assumption vinny would do a lot worse than he did xd
Pooptober
(Lols ensue from this clever and original joke)
SPOOP! 👻
Speeen & spoops
"Some witch was burned here let's offer her wine among the ash mannequins."
Man some horror protags are a bit dumb.
LETS FCKING GOOOO
spoopy
SPOOOOOOOKER
wtf already? spooptober was not that long time ago. Oh wait...
Vinny, I recommend Little Nightmares for a Spoopy game
Thumbnail makes me think of that dude from megamind
Is it just me or Bipyort was not having fun that day???? He disliked both Shipwrecked 64 & Cosmology of Kyoto, he sounded tired...
Barnyard seemed fine to me. I could tell he enjoyed Kyoto, it just wasn't a game that warranted funny reactions due to its weird nature, and he was having a good time with Nowhere, MI. I think he was just disappointed ending the night with this section since the games weren't what he was expecting.
He liked both Cosmology of Kyoto and Security Booth, what are you talking about? He sounds tired at the end of the stream because (having been there live) it was past 1 AM. He was bored with the indies other than Nowhere MI though, and reasonably so imo.
Spooptober gettin weird with it games
11 Days.
Vinny really needs to stop playing videogames that are longer than 10 minutes. They just aren't for him.
OCTTOBER
spoOooOoOOoky