I've always replaced the bearing,originaly sourced the bearing from Stihl then just took the bearing to my local bearing supplier to get it.Theres a long nosed snap ring plyers that stihl makes to remove the snap ring on the clutch hub nose.Then you use a brass punch to drive out the hub but you have to loosen the screw holding the bearing in a little at a time until its free.$6 bucks verses $200.
Also, its sometimes required to keep the head from being damaged with the missing guard integral with the design. Trick you can do is cut from one side as the sting goes FORWARD and throwing grass forward instead of spraying back towards yourself.
Haven't ran guards for over 22 years, multiple trucks on the road, commercial use, only wore down a few clutches, engines don't seem to be hurt. Since I switched to Redmax, the BCZ260TS, haven't seen any problems.
I once pulled one of those type of covers apart as they didnt make the housing anymore and it was a regular bearing off the shelf, you just have to take to a bearing shop and HOPEFULLY they will have them if not propriety made by the dealer. My Stihl was way old and retro and all steel beauty so i found all the bearings they used on the head , clutch ect all have size numbers and pretty common.
@@adamfink5046yep, I've got a 98 srm 3100 31.4cc that still runs great. Just put a used shaft from a srm 225 with a burnt engine. My other personal trimmer is a fs 100 rx Stihl, great 4mix,,imo
I don't have anything against Stihl but I chose the Echo because I like the Echo PAS-2620 Powerhead and it's so easy to change out my Trimmer with the Straight Shaft Edger etc... During the plan-demic and shortly afterward, it was so difficult to locate the Echo PAS system locally here in North Florida, but I found a great deal shipped from a popular dealer in the Great State of Aba-Lama. I'm going to have to completely clean it up and flush it out, because our house, garage, and barn were quickly drowned in 4' feet of water during Hurricanes. Hurricane season is when I miss ye olde Hoosier state the most.
Also another reason they run the string out is to not have to go grab a push mower and cut where the big mower won’t go, and do it quickly. One thing I would also add is even tho it sounds contradicting about not wearing the string down, if you like to run it out farther I’ve found sometimes .80 or .85 diameter string is better for not over loading the trimmer when doing so. Some find it easier to edge overgrown sidewalks when the string is out more bec of how it stabilizes the trimmer head more and really whipps the grass more. I guess that implies that the echos that have the gear reduction head would spin the .95 diameter better when it’s ran past the guard, most of the newer “orange” echos spin at 2:1 so it’s geared higher. My older grey srm-230 I think had the lower gear ratio head
Worn out equipment in commercial use is just the cost of doing business. The cost will be passed along to the consumer. Commercial use is a killer of all tools because of the use. Always appreciate your explanations.
As a commercial guy, for the amount of hours you get from the trimmer by the time it gets that worn it’s long paid for itself so pitch it and keep fresh equipment.
It's not a terrible idea but of course that's exactly what they want you to do and that's what makes it wrong instead of selling parts they would rather price you out to pay up for a new machine and it may not even be necessary and its wasteful it theirs nothing else wrong with the machine or especially if your already got money into it with other parts
As a professional lawncare company. I can tell you terryl that I've used the echo commercial trimmers with no guard and have never had a problem. We obviously use the string a little longer, but not an exaggerated amount
@JMSynthetics, I agree. I’m not much of a fanboy or brand supremacist for anything really. But Echo is one brand that I actually like a lot and go out of my way to buy when looking for new equipment. They usually strike a nice balance of affordable, reliably and performance. Although I will say I normally buy their professional grade line of stuff and only use it for non commercial. But even so they normally offer a much better value in comparison to the other more popular “commercial” brands.
I'm really pleased to step up from the box-store trimmer (More Trouble Daily = MTD) to a SRM-225 six years ago as I have only had one issue and it was the brand of oil mix leaking grease out of the muff-kin. Switched to some all-purpose (Pro-Select) mix oil at lowes and no more spooge.. Operators know more than engineers if it makes their life easy.
Good information Daryl. I agree on what you say. People abuse the weed wackers I retire from landscaping. It's called O'Connell landscaping in California. That's where I live in Orange county California. So keep up the good work. The good videos and God bless you and your family. Amen
I run the line a little longer when I need to blend, or cut large areas. Doing so requires good technique not to bog the motor down but results in a faster, cleaner, more consistent height. Also, bogging the motor depends more on the type of string/line than length, i.e. not all trimmer line is the same.
Your dedication shines through, Your consistency and dedication to this channel are commendable! Kudos to your hard work! - "Hard work is the bridge between dreams and reality."
I've got an old echo srm bought used for $100.00 20 years old and 5 of it landscaping with me no guard and 5 doing my house and all the neighbors every week. I just now need a rebuild. Piston is all black no rings left probably would have gone another 20 if the cutting/gaurd was left on. Echo makes a good product. With reasonably priced parts and great prices on the product itself. I don't know why people don't buy more echo products. I'll be rebuilding my old echo.
I bought a echo srm 261-s in 2003 . $400 ish back then and I used it for trimming and cold weather small limb cutting with blade and metal guard. I replaced fuel lines and filter, air filter, spark plug but runs like new. Greased trimmer head and zero issues. Mine is gray aluminum housing.
I took mine off because of the added weight and it gets tall grass clogged or wrapped around the guard. I dont seem to have trouble with the line getting too long because the thick grass, large rocks and concrete wear the line down quickly enough that the line stays at a pretty optimal length. Also I listen for the engine and can tell when I’m bogging the engine(pull back and let just the end of the line wear down before I go back into the heavy grass, or run it against a rock until it is short again) etc. also I can tell when the line is too short (stops cutting well and engine rpms are higher)and needs to be bumped to let some line out.
@@OutBackSmallEngine Yeah that 6 oz when you swing it back and forth all day in a sweeping motion matters, and you can get into tighter areas and don't have to clean the guard. Do you even mow commercially?? I have since 1992. Michael is right. Worried about your eyes? Wear safety glasses. Worried about your legs wear pants, should be anyway regardless.
We have 8 or 9 of those at work, the 110R and 111R's, the guys run the heck out of these things we have all the guards but one is missing the cutter, Taryl's right about the long string. It takes awhile to wear the clutch out though ours are still working they look as beat up as that one and they don't always get the maintenance they need carb work and what not, but they keep running our guys are rough on these so, STIHL makes a good product I'm impressed.
Sono un panettiere, ma in passato ho usato qualche semplice decespugliatore, ed ho sempre lasciato tutto come era, in base alla mia poca esperienza, penso che chi mette il filo molto più lungo di quanto dovrebbe, lo faccia per fare più veloce a fare tutto il lavoro, mi spiego meglio, per avere una circonferenza più grande e di conseguenza tagliare più erba in meno tempo, ma da come hai detto non é predisposto per quella forza maggiore é sulriscaldando da molti problemi. Un attrezzo molto utile per piccoli lavoretti exstra o magari a casa propria.
Well I have two FS 130 R that where given to me from a lawn service company that closed down that where use in salt water area . They look like they have been drugged behind the trailer and they are very old . I inherited them without no gaurds on them . The only thing I have had to do to them was rebuild the carbs and finally had to put new crank seals in them and natural reseal them with that Stihl Dirko stuff . I haven't had any other problems with them and they are a beast . Still running original clutch and drum and bearing , but then again the clutch and bearings aint in no plastic housing 💩
I bought a top plate with toothed triangles that fits on top of the trimmer head from japan ,very cheap and stops grass build up even in long grass . No need to remove the guard, but why cant i find them in the west?
I don't ever run my trimmer at full speed. I just bump the throttle. This method also saves me a lot of line. I also pull the mufkin off and take the stupid screen out. It chokes the engine and will cause it to overheat as well.
Take my advice, you SHOULD be wearing a face shield anyway and not just glasses. I got a piece of poison parsnip in my eye a few years back and I was wearing glasses. Most painful experience of my life. I don't recommend it.
Yeah, That tree out front of your place sure is getting skinny down at the bottom. And that funny looking chopped up line going along the bottom of your garage looks like rats been eating it.
Man I've got a fs 100 rx and had a fs 90 r prior to it and they have the torque to cut some heavy vegetation that a 2 cycle won't last long in. But I've heard complaints about the 4mix trimmers problems but I've been fortunate in that mine have been very dependable. The 100rx is probably 10-12 yo and I just put a new carburetor on it last week, the only repairs it has needed
I'll take an Echo over a Stihl any day! Thanks, Taryl! I hope everyone here in the midwestern states are safe and sound during the winter storm, we're getting hit pretty hard here in south central Illinois.
Had a pile of trimmers collected from side of the road trash and people giving me broken ones, went through them all, made a few usable again but my favorite that I kept using for many years now is an old yellow MAC. With centrifugal clutch and angle gears. It’s been the perfect one.
I had my Echo SRM-210 Trimmer for over 15 years ate least. I cut 3 regular residents grass every week. (Older Neighbors) Had 0 problems even leaving gas in it over the winter. I think the last time I changed the plug was about 6 years ago and still starts and runs like new.
I used to take the guard off, but if you bump it too much and your string is too long you have to cut it, so you have to carry a knife or something with you. I keep the guard on now, it gets in the way sometimes for certain situations. I also noticed that the guard protects your body and face from grass clippings. You still get hit in the face with the guard on but way less.
We take every guard off for over 35 years. They get in the way in the cemetery mows. I don’t know anyone on a pro level that runs a guard but I can see where large companies would leave them on, because a lot of the help they have, won’t know how to bump out the right amount of string. The guard helps make things ‘dummy proof’.
@skreebduchank1501 8 hours ago I've always replaced the bearing,originaly sourced the bearing from Stihl then just took the bearing to my local bearing supplier to get it.Theres a long nosed snap ring plyers that stihl makes to remove the snap ring on the clutch hub nose.Then you use a brass punch to drive out the hub but you have to loosen the screw holding the bearing in a little at a time until its free.$6 bucks verses $200.
I have FF 90s in my area, bread and butter in my area for a lot of those parts,shafts and the nose cones,they get used,get rained on then put away for winter,after a few years that bearing will freeze up,,shafts wear out ,great video thumbs up
I have an echo weed whacker and I've been running it for years with the guard on it. The same guard that I have and I've left it on there. It is a good idea to keep it on there. You're right.🚜🛩🛻🛬
Taryl I have a echo curved shaft, but I don’t have a bump and go for the string feeder. I cut my own string and stick it in the head as it runs out and I don’t make it any longer than it is when it would be cut off originally I do know that it’s nice to have that guard on there. It helps hold the thing up when you can free stand it and I’m just a residential person. I may use it for 1/2 hour 2 times a year i generally only trim 2 times per year . But i understand what you’re saying about if it’s to long
I have the guards off of my three trimmers. As the video says, you just have to watch your line length. My Echo trimmer is my favorite, followed by my old Honda 4-cycle and then my giant Stihl FS120 which is like a lawnmower on a stick. I bought each of them used for 20 bucks apiece. Just lucky, I guess.
Hi Taryl what can you do to stop grass sticking to your trimmer? I’ve been thinking maybe wd40 before use as it’s a nightmare to clean or maybe silicone spray
I talked to my lawn guy about this in the past. He implied he runs the line at about the same length, he said he can tell by the sound . The guard off just allows him to squeeze into tight places.
This kind of policy by Stihl seems like the details will get out to the commercial guys and this model would be avoided like the plague. Sounds like echoes a better deal anyway. it’s been a while, but I never had any problem with echo stuff, Stihl was always kind of hit and miss. You could be right, and I’ve got a lot of respect for you Taryl, but when somebody tells me I have to buy an entire assembly or housing just to get a bearing my hackles come up. It would take some serious searching, but I almost always found with a good bearing guy, somebody makes these bearings and somebody sells these bearings and somewhere there’s a cross reference number. Now if there’s no way to remove the bearing safely that could be a problem, however if we can get it out and we can see a brand and number on it I wouldn’t wanna bet on Stihl’s no repair policy! Because that’s why this crap is terrible, it’s a no repair policy and we probably shouldn’t be buying their products anymore… Stuff that up your caboose Stihl!
@skreebduchank1501 8 hours ago I've always replaced the bearing,originaly sourced the bearing from Stihl then just took the bearing to my local bearing supplier to get it.Theres a long nosed snap ring plyers that stihl makes to remove the snap ring on the clutch hub nose.Then you use a brass punch to drive out the hub but you have to loosen the screw holding the bearing in a little at a time until its free.$6 bucks verses $200.
I been telling people that for years. Taryl you should do a video next on why people shouldn't run regular motor oil as bar and chain oil. I know people that do that and then go to crying because the oil is running out of the saw after they sit it down and also complain about always having to buy a bar and chain.
I have the guard off when using blades, mostly the guard doesn't help deflect much with a blade, and the heavy grass constantly clogs the blade up some times of year. I do generally run the guard with the string head though, just might not run the extended skirt. I find people running trimmers at part throttle a bit perplexing, those machines are basically slipping the clutch most of the time...
Thanks Taryl, awesome message you have here. When is the English Bloke visiting again? You know, the one who does the fireside chat about small engine service bulletins and stuff! Have a great upcoming week!!!!
I have the guard on my trimmer and I still get a good amount of small rocks and dirt hitting me. I couldn’t imagine how much more it would be hitting me if I took it off as well as the damage it’s would do to vehicles.
Great info. I knew some of the carnage that would happen. You and Steve should get together for a brew. Maybe with the coming snow it might help some to cover snowblower starters that give problems like not extending the drive gears, burnout prevention, connection issues . . .
I never ran one long without one but some jobs it was worth it .. I made my guard a lil longer on my dewalt .. it had a 17" now it's closer to 20".. not noticed any shorter battery life and no clutch to deal with and if I have to get in to super think I have a 13" 3 prong blade that flys thru stuff ..
i have an older Echo that i got from a family member who passed, recently had to replace the carb (primer broke and one of the fuel line nipples snapped off of it) then had to replace the recoil starter assy last season (literally gave it a tug and it flew apart) other than that, the things been a tank, runs great, still plenty of power, and gets into the tight spaces in the yard that i need to clear out without too much issue, mine didn't have the shield but it has a brush blade, i had to convert back to a string trimmer so i didn't chop down the fence we installed like tim did on that episode of home improvement, so an Echo can use a Stihl shield? i might look into that, thanks for the info Taryl
Good information!, I would think the manufacturer would make the string cutting radius as large as possible while optimizing the power band of the engine. Your average grass rat does not have the benefit of the research and testing of the manufacturer…just leave the guards on, unless you train your crew to be aware of the string length.
On my Echo rapid loader head, I take the guard off because the strings are all the same length so it doesn't make a difference. However, if I use the speed feed head on my Troy Bilt, then I leave it on.
This was definitely dinner and breakfast. I has Echo curved. I took the gaurd of ans loved it . Never knew I was doing damage thanks. It seemed like it was cutting a way string to quick
You should really just get a bigger/more powerful trimmer. My experience with these little trimmers is that they are terribly underpowered, and don't last long in real world conditions. I upgraded to an echo 410 myself and it's a major improvement in power and durability. Now it's a little heavy so I certainly can understand why a landscaper who's cutting golf course type lawns wouldn't want one, however in the real world where you are cutting 15 foot high brush and weeds it's certainly worth getting something bigger and more powerful. It certainly can handle a lot more line than a small trimmer can without bogging down. I generally run a .130 line in mine when I don't need a blade and I can run a lot of line before it starts to bog the engine. It has lasted an entire season so far that's more then I can say for any of the smaller trimmers I've owned from both Stihl and Echo.
I think if any company has to payout for damage thay should look at the trimmers for guards. I think the safety is the biggest issue and seeing the need for a guard should be a no brainer.
I run mine on my husky 525L a bit back so i can get a bit more line. I killed my echo 225 trimmer without the guard. So i moved it out a bit and its decent
When he said the price of that housing I remember why I quit running stihl Trimmers 😂 That's absurd. Those bearings don't last even when you use them regularly. They're probably just pressed in that housing and clutch drum. I'm going to have to investigate 🔎
@skreebduchank1501 8 hours ago I've always replaced the bearing,originaly sourced the bearing from Stihl then just took the bearing to my local bearing supplier to get it.Theres a long nosed snap ring plyers that stihl makes to remove the snap ring on the clutch hub nose.Then you use a brass punch to drive out the hub but you have to loosen the screw holding the bearing in a little at a time until its free.$6 bucks verses $200.
The shafts have a lifetime warranty from Stihl. Our local dealer didn't tell me for years that they were warranted. They let me pay for them on all of our units. When I found out that they were warrantied, they tried to lie about it. I told them to call Stihl while I was standing there. They decided to warranty it instead of calling
No complaints here. Just leave the guard on.
Love the way he explains thing’s. What a wonderful character.😂
I've always replaced the bearing,originaly sourced the bearing from Stihl then just took the bearing to my local bearing supplier to get it.Theres a long nosed snap ring plyers that stihl makes to remove the snap ring on the clutch hub nose.Then you use a brass punch to drive out the hub but you have to loosen the screw holding the bearing in a little at a time until its free.$6 bucks verses $200.
That echo sound effect is awesome! Reminds me of Ted Striker on Airplane!
I like the guard because it keeps all the crap off of me!
Keep up the good work Taryl!
Ft. Wayne, IN.
Also, its sometimes required to keep the head from being damaged with the missing guard integral with the design. Trick you can do is cut from one side as the sting goes FORWARD and throwing grass forward instead of spraying back towards yourself.
Haven't ran guards for over 22 years, multiple trucks on the road, commercial use, only wore down a few clutches, engines don't seem to be hurt. Since I switched to Redmax, the BCZ260TS, haven't seen any problems.
@ 5:10, you have "Echo String Trimmer" under the Stihl part number. Good info, to keep the shield on, for safety, too.
I once pulled one of those type of covers apart as they didnt make the housing anymore and it was a regular bearing off the shelf, you just have to take to a bearing shop and HOPEFULLY they will have them if not propriety made by the dealer. My Stihl was way old and retro and all steel beauty so i found all the bearings they used on the head , clutch ect all have size numbers and pretty common.
As a homeowner with a small yard, I love my 2006 Echo 210. Straight shaft with guard… Still runs great.
Back when they were Gray.
@@adamfink5046yep, I've got a 98 srm 3100 31.4cc that still runs great. Just put a used shaft from a srm 225 with a burnt engine. My other personal trimmer is a fs 100 rx Stihl, great 4mix,,imo
I don't have anything against Stihl but I chose the Echo because I like the Echo PAS-2620 Powerhead and it's so easy to change out my Trimmer with the Straight Shaft Edger etc...
During the plan-demic and shortly afterward, it was so difficult to locate the Echo PAS system locally here in North Florida, but I found a great deal shipped from a popular dealer in the Great State of Aba-Lama. I'm going to have to completely clean it up and flush it out, because our house, garage, and barn were quickly drowned in 4' feet of water during Hurricanes.
Hurricane season is when I miss ye olde Hoosier state the most.
Also another reason they run the string out is to not have to go grab a push mower and cut where the big mower won’t go, and do it quickly. One thing I would also add is even tho it sounds contradicting about not wearing the string down, if you like to run it out farther I’ve found sometimes .80 or .85 diameter string is better for not over loading the trimmer when doing so. Some find it easier to edge overgrown sidewalks when the string is out more bec of how it stabilizes the trimmer head more and really whipps the grass more. I guess that implies that the echos that have the gear reduction head would spin the .95 diameter better when it’s ran past the guard, most of the newer “orange” echos spin at 2:1 so it’s geared higher. My older grey srm-230 I think had the lower gear ratio head
Worn out equipment in commercial use is just the cost of doing business. The cost will be passed along to the consumer. Commercial use is a killer of all tools because of the use. Always appreciate your explanations.
As a commercial guy, for the amount of hours you get from the trimmer by the time it gets that worn it’s long paid for itself so pitch it and keep fresh equipment.
It's not a terrible idea but of course that's exactly what they want you to do and that's what makes it wrong instead of selling parts they would rather price you out to pay up for a new machine and it may not even be necessary and its wasteful it theirs nothing else wrong with the machine or especially if your already got money into it with other parts
As a professional lawncare company.
I can tell you terryl that I've used the echo commercial trimmers with no guard and have never had a problem.
We obviously use the string a little longer, but not an exaggerated amount
Echo is a great brand. I have never had an issue with them. They just keep going and going
@JMSynthetics,
I agree. I’m not much of a fanboy or brand supremacist for anything really. But Echo is one brand that I actually like a lot and go out of my way to buy when looking for new equipment. They usually strike a nice balance of affordable, reliably and performance. Although I will say I normally buy their professional grade line of stuff and only use it for non commercial. But even so they normally offer a much better value in comparison to the other more popular “commercial” brands.
I'm really pleased to step up from the box-store trimmer (More Trouble Daily = MTD) to a SRM-225 six years ago as I have only had one issue and it was the brand of oil mix leaking grease out of the muff-kin. Switched to some all-purpose (Pro-Select) mix oil at lowes and no more spooge.. Operators know more than engineers if it makes their life easy.
Love the great explanations
Awesome advice. Another tip that works for me, I store my trimmer line in a bucket of water. Maintains line flexibility.
I thought I was the only one who did that !! 😏
Good information Daryl. I agree on what you say. People abuse the weed wackers I retire from landscaping. It's called O'Connell landscaping in California. That's where I live in Orange county California. So keep up the good work. The good videos and God bless you and your family. Amen
Happy New Year.
I'm ready for a good fireside reading of an old repair manual and stories.
I'll 2nd that. Maybe some old wheelhorse stuff
Sounds good. Missing some fireside reading.
I run the line a little longer when I need to blend, or cut large areas. Doing so requires good technique not to bog the motor down but results in a faster, cleaner, more consistent height. Also, bogging the motor depends more on the type of string/line than length, i.e. not all trimmer line is the same.
Thanks!
I just took the guard off of my Stihl . But after watching this video, I’ll put it back on. Thanks Taryl. You give great advice.
The Stihl is going to burn up no matter what you do with it .
@@MUUKOW3
But it will take longer to "burn up" if you use it as per manufacturer's designed use....
Your dedication shines through, Your consistency and dedication to this channel are commendable! Kudos to your hard work! - "Hard work is the bridge between dreams and reality."
Taryl is so just the best in here! Thanks man!
I got a old makita rbc251 and love it . Best weedeater i ever used .
I hope to see some snowblower videos as your gonna get some snow!
I've got an old echo srm bought used for $100.00 20 years old and 5 of it landscaping with me no guard and 5 doing my house and all the neighbors every week. I just now need a rebuild. Piston is all black no rings left probably would have gone another 20 if the cutting/gaurd was left on. Echo makes a good product. With reasonably priced parts and great prices on the product itself. I don't know why people don't buy more echo products. I'll be rebuilding my old echo.
Good morning guys! I like it when you say echo
I bought a echo srm 261-s in 2003 . $400 ish back then and I used it for trimming and cold weather small limb cutting with blade and metal guard. I replaced fuel lines and filter, air filter, spark plug but runs like new. Greased trimmer head and zero issues. Mine is gray aluminum housing.
I have a 1998 3100 that's still strong as new
I took mine off because of the added weight and it gets tall grass clogged or wrapped around the guard. I dont seem to have trouble with the line getting too long because the thick grass, large rocks and concrete wear the line down quickly enough that the line stays at a pretty optimal length. Also I listen for the engine and can tell when I’m bogging the engine(pull back and let just the end of the line wear down before I go back into the heavy grass, or run it against a rock until it is short again) etc. also I can tell when the line is too short (stops cutting well and engine rpms are higher)and needs to be bumped to let some line out.
Ooooo a whole 6oz lighter.
@@OutBackSmallEngine Yeah that 6 oz when you swing it back and forth all day in a sweeping motion matters, and you can get into tighter areas and don't have to clean the guard. Do you even mow commercially?? I have since 1992. Michael is right. Worried about your eyes? Wear safety glasses. Worried about your legs wear pants, should be anyway regardless.
@@NoNORADon911agree 100% plus I actually get hit less without the guard. Echo can handle it all day
I got a toothed top plate from Japan that solves the problem perfectly but I can't find them in the west.
I got a big 51.7 cc trimmer off amzn back in 2021. Some generic china brand but that thing is a beast. Still starts n runs great.
We have 8 or 9 of those at work, the 110R and 111R's, the guys run the heck out of these things we have all the guards but one is missing the cutter, Taryl's right about the long string. It takes awhile to wear the clutch out though ours are still working they look as beat up as that one and they don't always get the maintenance they need carb work and what not, but they keep running our guys are rough on these so, STIHL makes a good product I'm impressed.
Do you have a man that services these on your payroll..
the same guy that mixes all the fuel and services all the trucks?
Lots of cool learning here boy, so much to know. Thank you
Rotary Vortex is the best trimmer line I have found, lasts the longest of any I used.
Sono un panettiere, ma in passato ho usato qualche semplice decespugliatore, ed ho sempre lasciato tutto come era, in base alla mia poca esperienza, penso che chi mette il filo molto più lungo di quanto dovrebbe, lo faccia per fare più veloce a fare tutto il lavoro, mi spiego meglio, per avere una circonferenza più grande e di conseguenza tagliare più erba in meno tempo, ma da come hai detto non é predisposto per quella forza maggiore é sulriscaldando da molti problemi. Un attrezzo molto utile per piccoli lavoretti exstra o magari a casa propria.
Awesome..never knew that...thanks buddy...
Thank you for sharing.👍
Well I have two FS 130 R that where given to me from a lawn service company that closed down that where use in salt water area . They look like they have been drugged behind the trailer and they are very old . I inherited them without no gaurds on them . The only thing I have had to do to them was rebuild the carbs and finally had to put new crank seals in them and natural reseal them with that Stihl Dirko stuff . I haven't had any other problems with them and they are a beast . Still running original clutch and drum and bearing , but then again the clutch and bearings aint in no plastic housing 💩
Thank you Taryl.
I bought a top plate with toothed triangles that fits on top of the trimmer head from japan ,very cheap and stops grass build up even in long grass . No need to remove the guard, but why cant i find them in the west?
I don't ever run my trimmer at full speed. I just bump the throttle. This method also saves me a lot of line. I also pull the mufkin off and take the stupid screen out. It chokes the engine and will cause it to overheat as well.
That is so true about the longer the line the engine can't handle it then the shorter the faster the engine runs beyond the set speed
Losing my eye sight is a good reason to leave guard in place.
Not to mention all the guarding of clippings on you legs...
Take my advice, you SHOULD be wearing a face shield anyway and not just glasses. I got a piece of poison parsnip in my eye a few years back and I was wearing glasses. Most painful experience of my life. I don't recommend it.
Yeah, That tree out front of your place sure is getting skinny down at the bottom. And that funny looking chopped up line going along the bottom of your garage looks like rats been eating it.
Also sending stones flying into someone else or damaging a car or taking out a window and what not.
When I saw the title on the video,leave the guard on,fewer broken windows, and hitting other people and stuff
As a home owner leave the guard i mow lawns on the side no guards no issues i dont run the line super long like the landscapers do for some reason
Excellent video. Always safety first.👍👍👍👍👍
Not a fan at all of those Stihl 4-mix trimmer. Echo, Redmax or Maruyama all day long.
Man I've got a fs 100 rx and had a fs 90 r prior to it and they have the torque to cut some heavy vegetation that a 2 cycle won't last long in. But I've heard complaints about the 4mix trimmers problems but I've been fortunate in that mine have been very dependable. The 100rx is probably 10-12 yo and I just put a new carburetor on it last week, the only repairs it has needed
Good video mate ... Ta for sharing your knowledge 😅
Thanks Mick!
I have a troy built four stroke, and I don't have the guard on and I don't have a bump stop on my string trimmer
I'll take an Echo over a Stihl any day! Thanks, Taryl! I hope everyone here in the midwestern states are safe and sound during the winter storm, we're getting hit pretty hard here in south central Illinois.
Had a pile of trimmers collected from side of the road trash and people giving me broken ones, went through them all, made a few usable again but my favorite that I kept using for many years now is an old yellow MAC.
With centrifugal clutch and angle gears. It’s been the perfect one.
I had my Echo SRM-210 Trimmer for over 15 years ate least. I cut 3 regular residents grass every week. (Older Neighbors)
Had 0 problems even leaving gas in it over the winter.
I think the last time I changed the plug was about 6 years ago and still starts and runs like new.
Excellent video and advice. Many thanks Taryl. Happy New Year
Happy New Year
I have an old Crapsman. The line roll is a headache, before you know it the line is long! Anyway... Happy january.
I used to take the guard off, but if you bump it too much and your string is too long you have to cut it, so you have to carry a knife or something with you. I keep the guard on now, it gets in the way sometimes for certain situations. I also noticed that the guard protects your body and face from grass clippings. You still get hit in the face with the guard on but way less.
Thanks for sharing. 😉👌🏻
Yep I've learned that tried many different types the only one that seems to hold up is the echo
honda and husqvarna are good too
We take every guard off for over 35 years.
They get in the way in the cemetery mows.
I don’t know anyone on a pro level that runs a guard but I can see where large companies would leave them on, because a lot of the help they have, won’t know how to bump out the right amount of string.
The guard helps make things ‘dummy proof’.
Taryl I get why as a shop you have to replace the housing for liability reasons but can you change the bearing or is it fused to the housing somehow?
@skreebduchank1501
8 hours ago
I've always replaced the bearing,originaly sourced the bearing from Stihl then just took the bearing to my local bearing supplier to get it.Theres a long nosed snap ring plyers that stihl makes to remove the snap ring on the clutch hub nose.Then you use a brass punch to drive out the hub but you have to loosen the screw holding the bearing in a little at a time until its free.$6 bucks verses $200.
Always a good idea to use the recommended trimmer line weight also...
Love your videos but that's more money in your pocket and have a blessed day today 🙏
I have FF 90s in my area, bread and butter in my area for a lot of those parts,shafts and the nose cones,they get used,get rained on then put away for winter,after a few years that bearing will freeze up,,shafts wear out ,great video thumbs up
Landscapers are ROUGH as hell, never buy used stuff from them.
I have an echo weed whacker and I've been running it for years with the guard on it. The same guard that I have and I've left it on there. It is a good idea to keep it on there. You're right.🚜🛩🛻🛬
Taryl I have a echo curved shaft, but I don’t have a bump and go for the string feeder. I cut my own string and stick it in the head as it runs out and I don’t make it any longer than it is when it would be cut off originally I do know that it’s nice to have that guard on there. It helps hold the thing up when you can free stand it and I’m just a residential person. I may use it for 1/2 hour 2 times a year i generally only trim 2 times per year . But i understand what you’re saying about if it’s to long
Have a newer orange echo and they still use the metal clutch housing but more plastic towards the front
I have the guards off of my three trimmers. As the video says, you just have to watch your line length. My Echo trimmer is my favorite, followed by my old Honda 4-cycle and then my giant Stihl FS120 which is like a lawnmower on a stick. I bought each of them used for 20 bucks apiece. Just lucky, I guess.
Good morning everyone 😊😁
Hi Taryl what can you do to stop grass sticking to your trimmer? I’ve been thinking maybe wd40 before use as it’s a nightmare to clean or maybe silicone spray
I talked to my lawn guy about this in the past. He implied he runs the line at about the same length, he said he can tell by the sound . The guard off just allows him to squeeze into tight places.
oop typo, I didn't know that echo made the FS111R xD 5:09. Love the content you grass rats! Happy New year!
I like being able to control line length within reasonable bounds: Longer when edging tall sod edges, shorter in tall grass to prevent tangles.
This kind of policy by Stihl seems like the details will get out to the commercial guys and this model would be avoided like the plague. Sounds like echoes a better deal anyway. it’s been a while, but I never had any problem with echo stuff, Stihl was always kind of hit and miss. You could be right, and I’ve got a lot of respect for you Taryl, but when somebody tells me I have to buy an entire assembly or housing just to get a bearing my hackles come up. It would take some serious searching, but I almost always found with a good bearing guy, somebody makes these bearings and somebody sells these bearings and somewhere there’s a cross reference number. Now if there’s no way to remove the bearing safely that could be a problem, however if we can get it out and we can see a brand and number on it I wouldn’t wanna bet on Stihl’s no repair policy! Because that’s why this crap is terrible, it’s a no repair policy and we probably shouldn’t be buying their products anymore… Stuff that up your caboose Stihl!
@skreebduchank1501
8 hours ago
I've always replaced the bearing,originaly sourced the bearing from Stihl then just took the bearing to my local bearing supplier to get it.Theres a long nosed snap ring plyers that stihl makes to remove the snap ring on the clutch hub nose.Then you use a brass punch to drive out the hub but you have to loosen the screw holding the bearing in a little at a time until its free.$6 bucks verses $200.
I been telling people that for years. Taryl you should do a video next on why people shouldn't run regular motor oil as bar and chain oil. I know people that do that and then go to crying because the oil is running out of the saw after they sit it down and also complain about always having to buy a bar and chain.
Look up industrial tackifiers.
This tacky liquid can and is mixed with oil to become bar chain oil.
I have the guard off when using blades, mostly the guard doesn't help deflect much with a blade, and the heavy grass constantly clogs the blade up some times of year. I do generally run the guard with the string head though, just might not run the extended skirt. I find people running trimmers at part throttle a bit perplexing, those machines are basically slipping the clutch most of the time...
Thanks Taryl, awesome message you have here. When is the English Bloke visiting again? You know, the one who does the fireside chat about small engine service bulletins and stuff! Have a great upcoming week!!!!
I have the guard on my trimmer and I still get a good amount of small rocks and dirt hitting me. I couldn’t imagine how much more it would be hitting me if I took it off as well as the damage it’s would do to vehicles.
Take it off and try it. Every time that I've broke a window its when the guard was on. 26 years mowing grass 6 days a week all season.
I'm not a safety nut but, the guard is there to cut the line and without it the performance is definitely lowered.
Great info. I knew some of the carnage that would happen. You and Steve should get together for a brew.
Maybe with the coming snow it might help some to cover snowblower starters that give problems like not extending the drive gears, burnout prevention, connection issues . . .
These videos are great. I get a lot of good information from a guy that looks like Wayne from Wayne’s World.
I never ran one long without one but some jobs it was worth it .. I made my guard a lil longer on my dewalt .. it had a 17" now it's closer to 20".. not noticed any shorter battery life and no clutch to deal with and if I have to get in to super think I have a 13" 3 prong blade that flys thru stuff ..
i have an older Echo that i got from a family member who passed, recently had to replace the carb (primer broke and one of the fuel line nipples snapped off of it) then had to replace the recoil starter assy last season (literally gave it a tug and it flew apart) other than that, the things been a tank, runs great, still plenty of power, and gets into the tight spaces in the yard that i need to clear out without too much issue, mine didn't have the shield but it has a brush blade, i had to convert back to a string trimmer so i didn't chop down the fence we installed like tim did on that episode of home improvement, so an Echo can use a Stihl shield? i might look into that, thanks for the info Taryl
Good information!, I would think the manufacturer would make the string cutting radius as large as possible while optimizing the power band of the engine. Your average grass rat does not have the benefit of the research and testing of the manufacturer…just leave the guards on, unless you train your crew to be aware of the string length.
Thanks for the tip
Good information !
On my Echo rapid loader head, I take the guard off because the strings are all the same length so it doesn't make a difference. However, if I use the speed feed head on my Troy Bilt, then I leave it on.
This was definitely dinner and breakfast. I has Echo curved. I took the gaurd of ans loved it . Never knew I was doing damage thanks. It seemed like it was cutting a way string to quick
Thanks 🇺🇸
You should really just get a bigger/more powerful trimmer. My experience with these little trimmers is that they are terribly underpowered, and don't last long in real world conditions. I upgraded to an echo 410 myself and it's a major improvement in power and durability. Now it's a little heavy so I certainly can understand why a landscaper who's cutting golf course type lawns wouldn't want one, however in the real world where you are cutting 15 foot high brush and weeds it's certainly worth getting something bigger and more powerful. It certainly can handle a lot more line than a small trimmer can without bogging down. I generally run a .130 line in mine when I don't need a blade and I can run a lot of line before it starts to bog the engine. It has lasted an entire season so far that's more then I can say for any of the smaller trimmers I've owned from both Stihl and Echo.
Have used Shindaiwa for about 11 years...only issue was the primer bulb.
I think if any company has to payout for damage thay should look at the trimmers for guards. I think the safety is the biggest issue and seeing the need for a guard should be a no brainer.
I run mine on my husky 525L a bit back so i can get a bit more line. I killed my echo 225 trimmer without the guard. So i moved it out a bit and its decent
When he said the price of that housing I remember why I quit running stihl Trimmers 😂
That's absurd. Those bearings don't last even when you use them regularly. They're probably just pressed in that housing and clutch drum. I'm going to have to investigate 🔎
@skreebduchank1501
8 hours ago
I've always replaced the bearing,originaly sourced the bearing from Stihl then just took the bearing to my local bearing supplier to get it.Theres a long nosed snap ring plyers that stihl makes to remove the snap ring on the clutch hub nose.Then you use a brass punch to drive out the hub but you have to loosen the screw holding the bearing in a little at a time until its free.$6 bucks verses $200.
I give you credit for your dedication wearing that wig and teeth but all the years I been watching, that’s a Taryl.
As usual taryl another good video
So its cheaper to buy the housing and drum separate vs buying the housing with the drum?
I noticed one of the Echos had a blade on it, any advice on running cutting blades? do the cause extra stress on the system?
Always great content you old crazy coot❤
Me startin to perkup to that there Ecco bran stuff and sayin 👋 to Stilch. Ifin it goognuff for T D then it goodnuff for me.
Ouch $$$! Thanks for the tip!!
Every single thing he said is 1000000% CORRECT. You tell-um bro👍🏻
The shafts have a lifetime warranty from Stihl. Our local dealer didn't tell me for years that they were warranted. They let me pay for them on all of our units. When I found out that they were warrantied, they tried to lie about it. I told them to call Stihl while I was standing there. They decided to warranty it instead of calling