Understanding Sleeping Bag Temperature Ratings!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ส.ค. 2019
- Are you like many who get confused on what a sleeping bag temperature rating means? With all the sleeping products out there, you'd think it would make more sense. But how do you know the difference between all the options and what down vs synthetic means, fill powers and more. I attempt to share some education for any style of backpacker to better understand what sleeping bag temperature ratings mean!
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Really well explained there Dev. I've been using a synthetic quilt recently and I'm impressed how the materials have improved over the years. That said, pound for pound, down insulation is warmer for a significantly smaller pack size.
So thankful for this type of video. Constantly watching about "what's in the backpack?", "how to pack you bag?" gets tiring. I am happy I found THIS video, because it actually breaks down the thinking process and analysis of WHY you choose this over that, what to look for when choosing a product, pros and cons and point by point comparison. Learning is understanding not what a person chose, but WHY and HOW someone made this choice. Thanks again, VERY informative.
Outstanding video man lots of great information.
Great video! Very much needed! Keep up the good work Devin!
Chad Houghton thanks Chad!
Thorough as always. Very well explained!!
Dan Becker thanks Dan!
This is probably the best break down info on this subject I've seen. One of these days I'll get me a Bandit quilt. It should pair nicely with my Klymit static V insulated sleep pad
Z0MB13Redfield thank you! Yes, the Bandit would be awesome!
@@BackcountryExposure it's Ben by the way if you wondering
Legit video bro!!
This was an awesome discussion. Unfortunately many people don't realize that comfort when sleeping is SUPER personal to you. There simply ins't one "best" option for everyone. So the best thing to do is to educate yourself (which you did an awesome job of helping people do here) and then to dial things in through your own personal experience.
Chris Young agree!! That’s why I tried to explain conditional situations too with pads and body type. Important to remember that.
@@BackcountryExposure Exactly! You definitely did an awesome job calling out the things to consider.
Nice video Dev, very informational. I can be really confusing when picking out a sleeping bag. It is almost too much sometimes.
Wasatch Back Explorer here to serve! 😎😜
Excellent info... Myself however, I am a cold sleeper and (for example) a 40 degree bag will only keep me comfortable to about 55 degrees with a proper pad... So some of us will have higher or lower comfort levels with the same bag... and my feet inevitably get cold with wool socks. 🙁
Also keep in mind women get colder than men. Women need a warmer bag than men
This is so helpful! We started with summer temps and froze, then overcompensated with winter bags and roast. I love the down, hubby loves the synthetic, and now we just sleep in the camper.
Also keep in mind women get colder than men. Women need a warmer bag than men
@@noneya6334 Especially our toes... but not all women. Some really are little heaters. It's best if the person buying knows his/her body trends etc.
Great summary of temp ratings! Similar, but a little off topic... Have you ever used a sleeping bag liner with a bag? The Sea to Summit Reactor series claim to add multiple degrees of temp, which varies depending upon the version. I'd be interested to know your thoughts on liners, as well as your thoughts on the added weight.
@Palmetto Trekker thanks for the reply... if you remember, feel free to come back here and comment on how it went. I'd definitely be interested to hear how it goes, sleeping one night without the liner and then another night with it.
@Palmetto Trekker cool, if you do, then definitely let me know how it goes.
What temperature rating would you recommend for backpacking when the deep freeze hits in January / February, at altitudes ranging from 7,000 ft, to 9,500 feet in Utah? I'm thinking -20 degree, but I'm wondering if i can get away with a zero degree bag and still be comfortable.
A zero degree bag and a high r value sleeping pad will do the trick!
@@BackcountryExposure Thanks for the advice. As I'm sure you know, our backcountry is riddled with roads. For the most part, there isn't too many places you can't get to that isn't within a dayhikes distance. Frankly I wish we had fewer roads. It really gets my goat that Herbert wanted to use last years fires as an excuse to plow more roads, but that's a different subject entirely.
Anyway, a good number of the forest service roads close in November, which in my mind, makes backpacking more of a practical option, and one that I'd do more of, if there were fewer roads in general. If I don't get into the backcountry at least once a month i go nuts, which drives my wife nuts. So starting this year, instead of dayhiking with a pair of snowshoes, I plan on going overnight, as it will allow me to cover more ground. Right now, i'm getting my system worked out, and I find myself weighing cold weather survivability with backpacking weight, which is why I'm really scrutinizing 0 and -20 degree bags.
It is all about loft. Fill does not matter in temperature rating. It is loft that matters. Weight is affected by by type of fill. Ray Jardine had a formula for determine warmth based on loft. I find this a better guideline.
Very helpful, thanks. One Q: I have seen a requirement on some made-to-order quilts to specify additional ounces of 'overfill' (including zero, but up to 4 oz). This makes the quilt warmer (and heavier) obviously, but is it just a way to achieve a rating between the standard options available?
NJ G I believe it is a way for someone to further customize the quilt to fit their needs without going to a lower or higher rating. So I can order a 20 degree quilt for 3 season use, and maybe I know that I am a cold sleeper so I want to add 3oz of overfill to have myself a little warmer without having to drop to 15 or 10 degrees depending on what the company offers.
Second is if you know that you’ll have limited availability to wash your bag, then overfill can help mitigate clumping caused by body oils and sweat. Meaning that the extra down gives you a buffer to keep the bag more true to temperature as the down is unable to lift as much.
@@BackcountryExposure Another added benefit of overfilling a quilt is that if your fabric is thin, and down pokes through and you lose it, there's still extra down in your quilt :)
My UGQ Bandit with the M10 fabric loses at least one piece of down whenever I use it.
What do you think is realistic from a comfort point of view when the company has the standard:
-10c comfort (14f)
-18c limit (-1f)
-40c extreme (-40f)
Do you think I'd be in a fetal position at around -10c -12c?
On average I think the temperatures could go down to -7c, but that's usually a 24h avrage at a single point, so -10-12c could happen in different spot.
I got plenty of wool clothing, and two wool blankets (one "Fulled"?? (tovet in norwegian)), and one straight up knited by my mom :)
I'm usually a pretty warm sleeper, but I've never done any camping after peak heat temps in the summer, and back then I used a cheap and old +5c (40f) sleepingbag.
So I'm just wondering if you have any idea if the Extreme rating is anything to be taken seriously, or is it just a rating they give you as a "well at -40c that would be extreme, but you're only hope of waking up is if the search party finds your frozen popsicle piece of ass"
Extreme = a woman can survive a night without getting hypothermia, but probably won't sleep well or won't sleep at all (and frostbites are possible)
Limit = a man can sleep
Comfort = a woman can sleep
And it's with a good (R=4) sleeping pad.
Okay I'm looking to buy a sleeping bag but it's confusion. I'm going to be camping outside -20 probably should I get a bag with negative 50 or 80😂
So rule of thumb as I have researched. Is to deduct 10 degrees form the lower limit to give a rough comfort rating.
Wandering Aloud With Mark yeah that’s fair!
So of comfort is listed 25, limit is listed 15, you deduct 10 from 15 and get that comfort is 5 degrees and not 25 as advertised? Maybe you mean ADD 10 degrees to the losted limit and not deduct 10 degrees?
I believe you were holding the Thermarest and calling it UGQ...
I'm watching this and I'm paying attention, but I'm thinking about warning you: the shrubs behind you, from the vine sticking out on your left and the spot of sunlight on your right, everything below that is poison ivy haha don't go digging around in there!
I was going to write this!
That loft though...
oh yeah!
But my sleeping bag has three ratings, comfort, limit and extreme.
Well... kind of a crap video when you cut out the entire section about the first bag, which is the one I wanted to know the most about.
John Mclain this video wasn’t meant to be a review on these bags.
Sleeping Bag Temperature Ratings but u spook evrything but Temperature
Do your research? Why bother making a video if it cannot be an informative source?