World Combat Championship October 17th,1995 Charlotte,North Carolina Quarterfinal Bout in the Strikers Division-Fought under Vale Tudo rules but with no submission holds allowed
Submitting and submission holds are 2 different things that have the same outcome. They are called "submission holds" because they make the opponent submit, but you can still submit without being put in a hold. To submit means to give up and you can give up by being punched too many times (which is what happened here) or if you're too tired to continue.
Thank god for You Tube...I taped this event on VHS and couldnt find it...Eric Paulson doesnt get the respect he deserves...this guy trained with Rickson Gracie in the mid 80's....This tourney also shows how much of a animal Renzo was...big difference between him and Royce.
Half the bracket was striking wins only the other had full NHB. The finals had full NHB. The theory was that it would be a show down between strikers and grapple rs in the end. Was an experimental format.
Half the bracket was striking wins only the other had full NHB. The finals had full NHB. The theory was that it would be a show down between strikers and grapple rs in the end. Was an experimental format.
One side of the brackets had the no submission rule, the other (Renzo's) was regular NHB. The winner of the striking (Shootboxing) bracket would fight the winner of the NHB bracket in the finals. Not a bad idea.
I have just about every Erik Paulson DVD instructional there is. Killers Leglocks 1, 2 and 3, 6 armbar DVDs on one DVD, Killer Chicken Wings 1 and 2, Quick Kills, Neck Cranks 1 and 2, the Hilicopoter DVD, Killer Tackles and Takedowns, CSW Student 10 DVDs, Instructor DVDs, CSW Camps, Takedowns from the Knees DVD, Striking DVD, Ground and Pound DVD, Best Defense DVDs, Black Belt DVD, Private Lessons DVD with Erik Paulson, MMA seminar DVD with Erik Paulson and more.
I remember this! I was in to jkd at the time lol Hoped Paulson had skills while assuming the thicker more muscular fighter would win. Great fight a little adversity for Erik, nothing he couldn't handle.
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@nrallenuk Hm, strange. So was this the striker's bracket and that is why they only allowed them to be on the ground for a few minutes without submissions? And if so, why wouldn't Paulson have competed in the grappler's bracket?
erik paulson was barred from rickson gracie's academy because he participated in this event because renzo participated in this tournament in which he won.
It's not stupid. This was during the infancy of MMA where they were trying different sets of rules to see what can draw the most crowds. UFC at that time did not dominate this type of cage fighting and they were all trying to be the premier venue.
As a 5'7 individual I was going for McCully, but, as a person with a beautiful flowing long mane, when he started yanking on that bun I was hoping for no mercy from Paulson.
Like the under arm pit lunchboxes to muscle boys face. Wonder if Lesner picked that up from him. Seriously though, Paulson is badass! Triangle, mount, knees, and combos:D
No submission’s can also be taken as “No willing quitters”. You had to go through the bare knuckle process to get to the other fights. So, no one should be talking shit about this fight. This was hella interesting. You can hair pull and head butt, that changes a lot of things. You can grab the cage, you can grab the shorts, hit the back of the head, neck and spine. Ouch
They had two divisions, strikers and grapplers, and in the end had the winners of each division face each other. Sadly the championship match was mostly Paulson being thrown around by his hair.
P.S. I'm not talking about the new decision to copywrite "Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do". I'm talking about the names of the pre and post-1967 stages of what he taught.
Half the bracket was striking wins only the other had full NHB. The finals had full NHB. The theory was that it would be a show down between strikers and grapple rs in the end. Was an experimental format.
Renzo was lucky he didn't have to take on Vale or Bitonio. I believe Vale or Bitinio would've beat Renzo by sheer strength & brutality. Renzo got a cakewalk against the very unviolent Spijkers, smaller wrestler & the zero-grappling Warring. He was very lucky that Vale & Bitonio eliminated each other.
Dear genius, What did BL call what he was teaching before 1967? "Jun Fan Gung Fu" Even the JKD concepts guys refer to the old style as Jun Fan Kickboxing. Having trained in the JKD concepts (Joe Maffe) school, and the older Gung Fu style (James DeMille), I think I actually do know what I'm talking about, sorry.
World Combat Championship had really weird rules. The can go to the ground but they can’t use submissions? Paulson would have won far quicker if he was allowed to use his submission skill set-of I recall in this same event James Warring latched onto Paulsons hair and never let go-again with Paulson not allowed to use his submissions. Oketely
I think Paulson would have submitted him 10 times in the first round!
WCC: "NO SUBMISSION!"
Also WCC: "Winner by submission...."
There's no point in banning submissions in an event that allows grappling. I can see why WCC could not compete with the early UFC.
Submitting and submission holds are 2 different things that have the same outcome. They are called "submission holds" because they make the opponent submit, but you can still submit without being put in a hold. To submit means to give up and you can give up by being punched too many times (which is what happened here) or if you're too tired to continue.
They separated strikers and grapplers until the finals. If you were labeled a striker, you couldn't win by submission.
'Heartbreak Kid' Erik Paulson.
Eric is super tough. Took a seminar in the Carolinas w him. Super impressive.
Same but in Va
Thank god for You Tube...I taped this event on VHS and couldnt find it...Eric Paulson doesnt get the respect he deserves...this guy trained with Rickson Gracie in the mid 80's....This tourney also shows how much of a animal Renzo was...big difference between him and Royce.
"no submission" no wonder why the WCC went the way of the dinos...
SuperElite27000000
Cecil peoples was the ref......
Fucking of course
Half the bracket was striking wins only the other had full NHB. The finals had full NHB. The theory was that it would be a show down between strikers and grapple rs in the end. Was an experimental format.
The CEO of the promotion, his wife threatened to divorce him if he continued funding the promotion. That's why the WCC ended.
What the fuck kinda rules are these?!? Subs are illegal but grabbing the cage, pulling hair, and headbutting is legal, what?!?!?
that is kinda funny, isn't it. wonder about eye gouging and groin shots.
No submission! No submission!
No submission? Wtf kind of rules is that
Half the bracket was striking wins only the other had full NHB. The finals had full NHB. The theory was that it would be a show down between strikers and grapple rs in the end. Was an experimental format.
1234kingconan
i quit watching as soon as i heard the ref say that.
Pre ufc era
@@ingmard3178 the UFC was still around at this time
@@MrSFblack you are right :)
Erik Paulson's my coach :) I train at his gym.
Lucky
Lucky
i trained with both Sean and Eric. they're both top notch fighters and very good guys. And yes, Eric cut his hair after this fight. -_o
No submissions?? It's like telling a boxer he can't use his jab and hook.
That's the craziest thing I have ever heard with no submissions!!
Half the tournament bracket was set up to encourage strikers to be able to fight without worry of facing someone with submision cross training
I was waiting for Cecil Peoples to jump in when Mcully tapped and yell "NO SUBMISSIONS" in his face.
head butting, elbows to the cerebellum, atomic wedgies.. the good ole days.
So 90's! Love it.
No submission, but hair pulling is ok?🙄😑
I know this is old, but had to mention....and wedgies are good to go!
One side of the brackets had the no submission rule, the other (Renzo's) was regular NHB. The winner of the striking (Shootboxing) bracket would fight the winner of the NHB bracket in the finals. Not a bad idea.
Training wheels bracket
Great fight I remember renting the tape on vhs and me and my buddy shaved our heads the next day (so nobody could grab our hair)
this is awesome
I have just about every Erik Paulson DVD instructional there is. Killers Leglocks 1, 2 and 3, 6 armbar DVDs on one DVD, Killer Chicken Wings 1 and 2, Quick Kills, Neck Cranks 1 and 2, the Hilicopoter DVD, Killer Tackles and Takedowns, CSW Student 10 DVDs, Instructor DVDs, CSW Camps, Takedowns from the Knees DVD, Striking DVD, Ground and Pound DVD, Best Defense DVDs, Black Belt DVD, Private Lessons DVD with Erik Paulson, MMA seminar DVD with Erik Paulson and more.
Ah the golden age of MMA.
Those blows to the back of the head are insane
If he dies he dies.
lol no submission, no gloves, no rounds, headbutt and striking to the back of the head... these fights were very hardcore
I remember watching these early fights. Huge PPV events back in the day. I used to order all of them.
No submissions. The fuck is this. It would be awesome to have match with no gloves, no rounds, and submissions allowed, like the old times ufc.
Dan D
I just don't know why Paulson competed......
I remember this! I was in to jkd at the time lol Hoped Paulson had skills while assuming the thicker more muscular fighter would win. Great fight a little adversity for Erik, nothing he couldn't handle.
His name is Erik Paulson. His name is Erik Paulson. His name is Erik Paulson. His name is Erik Paulson. His name is Erik Paulson. His name is Erik Paulson. His name is Erik Paulson. His name is Erik Paulson.
Cecil Peoples scored it 30-27 for the hot dog vendor
@nrallenuk Hm, strange. So was this the striker's bracket and that is why they only allowed them to be on the ground for a few minutes without submissions? And if so, why wouldn't Paulson have competed in the grappler's bracket?
erik paulson was barred from rickson gracie's academy because he participated in this event because renzo participated in this tournament in which he won.
i can understand no win by sub but cant you apply one to get a better position.
Cecil Peoples looks like the trainer from Mike Tyson's Punchout.
It's not stupid. This was during the infancy of MMA where they were trying different sets of rules to see what can draw the most crowds. UFC at that time did not dominate this type of cage fighting and they were all trying to be the premier venue.
I remember EP when he was a trainer at Hermosa Boxing Works. Good times.
Headbuts hair pulling elbows to the back of the head and no submissions!?!?
Gotta love the early days.
wtf? erik would had subbed that dude in the very beginning
UFC & WCC was the best mma championships of 90's !!
IVC
As a 5'7 individual I was going for McCully, but, as a person with a beautiful flowing long mane, when he started yanking on that bun I was hoping for no mercy from Paulson.
😂😂
Me too unfortunatley he just got stuck in the strikers bracket
@Teabonesteak
what's his name?
Great Coach Paulson won with his indomitous spirit 💪💪💪🥊🥋👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
When will they learn?
Like the under arm pit lunchboxes to muscle boys face. Wonder if Lesner picked that up from him. Seriously though, Paulson is badass! Triangle, mount, knees, and combos:D
This kind of fighting right here is more awesome than the current UFC. These men had NO GLOVES on.
...and no nut cups. Real man fight.
Why no submission
You're lucky - he's brilliant!
Paulson is beast!
No submission’s can also be taken as “No willing quitters”. You had to go through the bare knuckle process to get to the other fights. So, no one should be talking shit about this fight. This was hella interesting. You can hair pull and head butt, that changes a lot of things. You can grab the cage, you can grab the shorts, hit the back of the head, neck and spine. Ouch
His name is erik paulson,
His name is erik Paulson
His name is erik Paulson
Yes
The ONLY mma fight that you couldn't win with a submission. Thats ruthless.
They had two divisions, strikers and grapplers, and in the end had the winners of each division face each other. Sadly the championship match was mostly Paulson being thrown around by his hair.
Corner should have chopped it off between rounds
Yes. Yes he is.
No submission is lije no submission but you can elbow the base of the skull??
Why was there a "2 minutes on the ground/no submissions rule" in an MMA fight? That was stupid as hell, even for MMA fights in 1995.
Why was there no submissions?
@shampar10 It's the WCC shootboxing bracket
i love mma, but vale tudo is a bit too extreme...12-to-6 elbows to the back of the head/neck, headbutts, groin strikes etc...
He had him in a triangle instantly!
Back when this fight originally happened, yes. They know call it Jun Fan Gung Fu.
not a word about catch wrestling in the description of Paulson.
If you can't submit it shouldn't stop submissions going on, just means the can't be ended that way
"NO SUBMISSION"... I want to slap that ref. for yelling that at Paulson when he was just trying to control and pin McCully.
P.S. I'm not talking about the new decision to copywrite "Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do". I'm talking about the names of the pre and post-1967 stages of what he taught.
He is Dan insanstos with student
WHAT COMES IN SMALL PACKAGES?!?
OH MY GOSH!
No submission lol
First saw him in Bloodsport 3 as Kumite fighter,role name Stelio
Great
Nice butterfly sweep to take him out of your guard into side control.
bornfedslaughter lol
No submission, WTF?
Half the bracket was striking wins only the other had full NHB. The finals had full NHB. The theory was that it would be a show down between strikers and grapple rs in the end. Was an experimental format.
Renzo was lucky he didn't have to take on Vale or Bitonio. I believe Vale or Bitinio would've beat Renzo by sheer strength & brutality. Renzo got a cakewalk against the very unviolent Spijkers, smaller wrestler & the zero-grappling Warring. He was very lucky that Vale & Bitonio eliminated each other.
YEAAAA !!!
So then submissions should be legal..
Bro is closing in on a KO and the announcer is talking about Mazza Soup..
Triangle was there for awhile..
Paulson punches look funny
@sisudo21 you use the word ironic incorrectly. It's OK though, I blame Alanis Morrisette.
No submission? wtf
Its stupid for them to say "no submission" when they allow take downs, throws and clinching.
"no submission"=NO AUDIENCE
Those were the days of real mma
Minus submissions lol
I believe what this is vale tudo Match or similar
Wow they get to pull hair and hold onto the cage.
I was wondering if this was the 'hair' fight I remembered? ...it was
James Warring
i think this is why sensei paulson got his hair cut
It’s amazing how shitty refs were back then. He keeps screaming no submission when he’s not even setting up a submission!
Some refs actively look for reasons to interfere in the fights. He was one of the worst.
Stellio! Who remembers that reference
Is it this competition Renzo Gracie won?
Don't you mean the Waring fight? The next one? No hair pulling in this one.
Dear genius,
What did BL call what he was teaching before 1967? "Jun Fan Gung Fu" Even the JKD concepts guys refer to the old style as Jun Fan Kickboxing.
Having trained in the JKD concepts (Joe Maffe) school, and the older Gung Fu style (James DeMille), I think I actually do know what I'm talking about, sorry.
THEN THEY CALL IT SUBMISSION??????? lol
Go ahead and lift all the weights you want but Erik Paulson will fuck you up in all sorts of ways! He is the real deal!!
World Combat Championship had really weird rules. The can go to the ground but they can’t use submissions? Paulson would have won far quicker if he was allowed to use his submission skill set-of I recall in this same event James Warring latched onto Paulsons hair and never let go-again with Paulson not allowed to use his submissions.
Oketely
paulson would probably be a 170 today
No Submission? WTF
Read the rules they all agreed to.
CHAPEAU !!!
Erick rules!...
So tired of being kneed he pulled mount onto himself.