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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 พ.ค. 2019
- Alec goes over the most commonly found patterns in Clone/Guitar Hero.
Ripped from 2019/04/30 stream vod.
Timestamps:
00:03 Ladders
01:40 Chimneys
03:55 Reverse Chimneys
04:31 Zig-Zags
09:53 Triplets
09:57 Quadruplets
10:01 Ascending Triplets
10:05 Ascending Quadruplets
10:12 Chimneys and Reverse Chimneys again
10:33 ?
11:34 Trills/Castles
13:16 Ghosting
13:36 Spamming
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oh shit i just remembered you messaged me once about you making this vid. enjoy everyone!
god bless brown man!
Merry Halloweensgiving-mas
Yo
Do in masterclass or something
Ghosting ? The girls I talk to are very very good at that technique
I feel you, brother.
Oof lol
2:24
you just opened my eyes
I agree with whom in chat asked if the yellow note should be simultaneous with the green though - if you look at houses, their chimneys aren't floating :D
I think acai kinda misunderstood the question about it, reverse chimneys (likely) isn't what the person in chat meant
The slowed down zoom actually made it easier, cause when he plays he just covers it with his tapping hand and mashes it and you have no idea how he’s doing it. Thank you!
He also did that in his Soulless tutorial video, but that was like 4 hours long or whatever, so I decided it would be nice to have a shorter, more compact video discussing patterns and techniques.
In case you're looking for something specific
*Ladders* - 0:05
*Chimneys* - 1:45
*Zig-Zags* - 4:37
*Triplet and Quadruplet Practice Song* - 9:39
*Castles/Trills* - 11:09
*Ghosting and Spamming* - 13:16
That chimney explanation actually blew my mind.
Same
Same like wahhhhhht
This is so fascinating watching this and reading comments on patter theory and getting in depth with how to play certain sections. Back in my day (GH1-3), we just mashed buttons and hoped to hit a majority of them
less than bread Im sure he played guitar hero 3 too
Acai: 4:10 nails that 100% three times in a row
Also Acai: 1:25
I've realized that even as a player that doesn't know two hand tapping, I've done ghosting just on my own before, and on that exact section of Hangar 18, no less.
i play on keyboard, and two hand tapping is my worst enemy coz you like elbow strum to save a hopo
i thought ghosting was when olivia doesn't call back
This is super useful thanks!
I got mindblowned by the Chimney explanation. I would never have thought about this on my own
3:26 lol
my personal thoughts on spamming and ghosting, I believe that the're multiple types of spam. Some are fine and others are just lazy work-arounds for quick patterns. An example of fine spamming would be when you anchor the green and have to tap the red like 30 times for a part but instead of tapping it 30 times you end up tapping it 45 times or more. I find this fine because you only have two notes, one is an anchor so all you are left with is taping a single colour. spamming that one note lets you turn off your brain and regain focus but at the cost of stamina later on in the song. When you have a sweep or a more complex pattern and all you do is just rapidly hit every note with green anchored then that is bad spamming. Ghosting however I find less of a cop-out and more of its own technique. By adding in a non needed note in a sequence such as G, R, B, O. I find that you can maintain more of a consistent motion with your hand thus making it easier for you to keep tempo with the song and can aid in reading a chart. Still at the end of the day you should only ghost until get down an exact method of hitting it, otherwise it becomes a crutch for hitting quad zigs and sweeps and in allot of faster more difficult songs you won't really have the time to ghost a note as you would be holding down a higher note (the ghosted note) when you only have time to really hit what is presented in the chart, unless you spam but then that brings us back to using spamming as a quick cop-out.
Imagine the nerves oh wait the meme died
"Are zig zags spammable?"
*Spams frantically*
"yes"
Thank you
I needed this before I jumped into the full difficulty charts of both Soulless 4 & 5. Maybe I can practice getting better
Im getting a guitar soon because I've always played with a regular controller and I think this is gonna help
10:28 got me I don't know why
look at the house!
lOoK aT tHe cHiMnEy!
Very helpful for beginners like me
Really helpful stuff
It would be super cool if we had a single song dedicated to practicing patterns like these.
I mean, there are several songs that are made for specific patterns. Some are even displayed in this video, iirc.
if someone spammed that solo in hanger 18 after playing the whole song normally I would actually be impressed lmfao
3:26 the sneeze of the century
The hyped up sneeze
What tapping pattern would you use to hit alternating chimneys, where it goes: (chimney, chimney, reverse chimney, reverse chimney and repeat)? Cause I cant find a tutorial anywhere
there's no switch up. just tap the "chimney" note with one finger then when it's reverse use 2 fingers like a triplet. Or if you want the easy way out just do reverse chimneys the whole time
Play them normally. If you want, there’s a pattern that is both a chimney and reverse and the same time. It’s regular chimneys but instead of hitting just yellow on the chimney part you hit yellow AND red. Makes chimneys to reverse chimneys easier
For me, if the reverse chimney is slow enough, I just think of it as an alternating trill. I’m assuming that the section you are referencing is Remembrance B for S4, which also includes sections like the one before the chords that lead to victory verse, which is sort of how I learned reverse chimneys
try setting speed to 0.25 and listen to him talking
Go home brown man, you're drunk
I am Acai, and this is my Guitar Hero Masterclass.
i'd definitely attend that
Fuck I would too honestly
I still wanna figure out how the tap notes register on zigzag even though i see the red is partially delayed while green is held?
I mean if the tap has a red pull, wouldn't you hold red?
13:36 leafgreen method
I need to learn how to two have these. Only thing I know how to two have is ttfaf intro. I can hit the free bird rollers and all the other slow ones but those fast ones are evil.
The castle example he showed looks a lot like ladders, but faster. Am I missing something?
You're correct. That being said, since they are so fast, the method for doing them is completely different when compared to the 'standard' ladder method, so it essentially becomes a new pattern.
@@KKappaccinno/videos/videos I posit that it is, in fact, not a new pattern. It is the same pattern that is too fast for a lower-speed method.
(I can't get rid of "/videos" after your name no matter what I do)
@@Deus_Auto unless we flip it and say that the pattern refers to your finger movement
@@dopaminecloud Fair enough.
I'm really bad at ladders. Even the one in "Carry on My Wayward Son" gives me trouble.
I think I asked for the patterns explanation myself.
Talking about ghosting being a unfair practice...back in 2007 people were against hyperspeed, cause it makes game easier and considers a cheating.
The chat got a bit heated when he played soulless 2
I love the strum bar on the wor guitar the only problem is the green button is pressed in too much the good thing is! I love the xplorer buttons they make me tired much faster which is not good but they have grip to them if someone can mod professionally I would like to have a gh5 shaped guitar with wor strum bar and xplorer buttons this would be so fire 🔥🎸 if it's fully functional I would pay 150 Euro or so for it.
chad
5:17 waaaait...how is he able to hold red down the whole time? Shouldn't those be double notes since he is never letting go of the red? And how can he automatically play the reds when he doesn't lift his finger up? Whenever I do zig zags I never keep pressing one finger down the whole time cause I thought the game would think I'm playing a double note instead of one.
"Anchoring in Clone Hero / Guitar Hero is keeping a lower fret held down while playing a higher note.
"
In your question, it *automatically* hits the reds, because before the red notes, he hit some note other than the red. This is probably the least technical explanation you could get, but from experience, it works like that.
Say you have a chart where there's only red notes (HOPOs or opens), you can keep holding red down, while tapping any other color between two reds.
I've practiced ladders in slow practice mode but I still can't play them in full speed
yes
why yes indeed, my friend
Fast forward to this day, i now found people spamming mostly for jokes but Carny takes it srsly
I wonder if spamming can work in GHWT
My problem is I feel like I'm mechanically skilled enough its just actually making sense of what I am seeing lol
Will die knowing I’m better at guitar hero than anyone I’ve meet personally. But you always gotta check that ego.
for the zigzag, does he click the green button ?
Nope.
As long as you're not hitting a chord, you can always hold down a fret that's lower than the note you need to hit.
so as a complete noob i see you holding one color the whole time with zigzags and i was just wondering why and how that works? cause i always thought you have to let go off green to hit red, then let go off red, hit yellow, then let go off yellow, hit red again and so on.
"Because that’s how a real guitar works. It’s not like a piano where each note gets its own string / strings and the strings run perpendicular to the layout of the keys. It’s like a guitar where fretting in different places on one string can create different pitches. So basically, only the highest note gets played which means you can anchor notes so there’s less effort to play a pattern. It’s not only zig pattens either. Any pattern can have an anchor note."
Originally commented on this video by @Josh Cronshaw
@@Lada333 damn thanks for the detailed response! makes a lot of sense to me now!
I still don't have that confidence to tap over hopo notes. I just dio it on tap notes since I'm using a keyboard and it's easier to recover when I miss :v
Arent castles just reverse ladders?
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Me over here who cant even do ladders but can somehow get 91% TTFAF expert on keyboard
Why are you able to keep it down on the green for zig zags?
This is literally what everyone's been waiting for
Because that's how the game's engine works
Because that’s how a real guitar works. It’s not like a piano where each note gets its own string / strings and the strings run perpendicular to the layout of the keys. It’s like a guitar where fretting in different places on one string can create different pitches. So basically, only the highest note gets played which means you can anchor notes so there’s less effort to play a pattern. It’s not only zig pattens either. Any pattern can have an anchor note.
What kind of witchcraft is this 7:04
i watched multiple times but i still dont get the sliding tap one
Slow it down and look at his finger movements very closely and the way the colors light up on the strike line and it should be easier to decipher. I had to look at it a few times and pause right in the middle/end of every movement. Everything on this game is easy to understand if you just take it slow.
yes good
11:34 aren't those ladders?
yes they are quick ladders but they are techniquelly *trills* and sry for my english and im very late lol
I've started to learn it in 2017 still can't tap it I'm almost one handing it tho 😂
3:27
play 7:52 at 2x speed
Tapping is almost impossible playing lefty, been playing for years and don't even know what to do still
To be honest if someone spams on Satch boogie it looks really bad but at the end of the day if you like to spam. Do it I mean it's not competitive at least now so who cares but at least just tell people I spammed or so but if you play for yourself no one cares and there are songs that you just can not get away with spamming.
How is he playing strum notes by tapping?
@@Lada333 He's on about elbow strumming- Alec strums with his elbow on a strum note while his 2 hands are tapping the other notes.
@@alexch You're totally right, my mistake, completely forgot about those parts in the video!
@@Lada333 haha no problems man
6:15 doesnt work for me
It is a chimney of a house that has a chimney attached to the wall outside, not in the middle, the image used in the comparison was not very good.
*you guys like m e m e s, right?*
Kachi ye
Wouldnt a house be green, red, yellow, red, green? With a yellow/blue falling somewhere there as a double note?Like they aren't always perfectly half way up one side?
i will never acheive anything like this. my hands just cant take it. whole hand just locks up when i try to do anything remotely close to any of these patterns. permastuck on hard i suppose. gonna return the guitar to amazon and give up on this stupid shit
Lmao no need to return it. I can't do any of these patterns either. I haven't ever really tried tbh, I just accepted that I'm shit. Regular practice helps a lot though. Keep grinding.
was hoping to learn something from this video, was disappointed.
Care to elaborate what you would've liked to have seen?
@@Lada333 what i was expecting to see was like a tutorial on how to do these patterns, but instead he just said "ok this is x pattern * does it * ok thats that pattern" if i wanted to slow the video down to see what hes doing with his hands i wouldve just watched a regular video instead of him 'explaining' them
to answer your question. what id like to have seen is a breakdown of how these are actually done. the only thing i saw that was kinda like that was the zig zags. the rest just look like him smacking the guitar.
@@andrew66769 Ah, I see where you're coming from.
Truth be told, this was never meant to be a stream to focus on patterns, iirc I asked him something that led us down into this rabbit hole, where he went over some patterns.
He has a Soulless 4 tutorial (which, if I'm not mistaken, I linked at the end of this video), he might go more in-depth over there, not sure, have not seen the whole video.