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Awesome catch! I really do wonder why Wheeling & Lake Erie had their own engines and their own hoppers pulling trains in and out of Baltimore on CSX tracks 9 to 10 years ago.
Oh wow... it's like you took a camera back to 1986 and recorded EMDs in their prime with modern equipment. This is what UP should have done with their Tunnel Motors(Both SP and D&RGW), but instead of embracing their heritage, they wore them down, then let them rust and rot on dead lines, and turned them into unrecognizable Frankenstein engines until they were literally unusable, then they sold the salvageable ones to random class 3 roads, and scrapped the rest. What a disrespectful and tragic end to such an iconic and legendary engine, and all because they didn't make it... you would never see them treat a UP locomotive like a DD40 like that, but because it wasn't theirs they abused them until there was nothing left, and sold them off like used needles. Of course SP and D&RGW did not shy away from pushing these units to their limits, but they did not neglect them, or disrespect them, it was just the nature of their freight operations, and as they were the ones who came up with the design, I'd say they earned the right to wear them down a little. On the bright side, the smaller roads that did acquire some tunnel motors(Like the guys in the video) have consistently been treating them with respect, probably because they feel lucky they even managed to get any locomotive for that price, let alone such a hidden gem such as a Tunnel Motor. Just proves the quality of EMD 2nd generation diesels, you can use and abuse them for years, and actively try to wear them down, and all it takes is a few replacement parts from the local scrapyard, and a fresh coat of paint, and voila you now have a working 3800hp locomotive to do with as you please.
scrapped...………..I don't think so...…...I suggest you make a visit to Brasil…..a lot of ex SP and DRGW SD40T-2s serve America Latina Logistica, and FCA (now VL!)………..
The good thing about EMD is that they allow third party manufacturers to be licensed to make replacement components for the older EMD's. GE does not do that, they're very anal about such things, and as such, there are very few old GE's (-7/B-Boat and "U" series/U-Boats) in use today.
@@BenjaminEsposti there are a lot of dash 7 still running....emission controls retired them off class 1s....some regulated to shortlines….however Estonia, Brasil, Bolivia, and Colombia now own nearly all the C30-7s, C36-7s. as well as B36, and B30 models....
There's still DRGW tunnel motors still around? That's so cool! What are these units doing now? Hopefully still running on the W&LE. They kept the paint in great shape, considering they haven't been repainted since 1989.
Awesome video i love tunnel motors I saw some on the trona railroad in sp paint! There was also a Kodachrome sd40r in the lashup i like tunnel motors and its good to know that some are still kickin nice video
wow awesome.....also #6351 was AWVR #7346!.......1 of the sd40-2's that exploded in the movie! :O its a nice video i wish this was mixed freight rather than coke....wat made it interesting were the sd40t-2's leading
Nice video👍🏼. So do the tunnel motor SD40s still have the 645 v16 prime mover? I take it they just have a bigger radiator than a standard SD40? They look similar to an SD45 with the long hood part running all the way to the back
I may be repeating myself from an earlker vjdeo, but there is nothing better than the sound of ang loco from tge SD-40 family winding up. How did thkse Rio Grandes survive this long in that paint and thosd road numbers?
Actually both still are around, if your ever in Brewster, Ohio. They usally run on the Wheeling there. and yes both still have the same paint and numbers.
Well, it would seem that W&LE has a little bit of a thing for D&RGW, notice the third unit is painted in their own colours which strike me as being almost criminally similar to the old D&RGW colours. I can't say for certain, but it looks almost like W&LE has been secretly maintaining these two units and keeping the Rio Grande lettering as a tribute, there is no way in hell they came off of the Southern Pacific, or Union Pacific looking like THAT. If I were to guess, I'd say that these two are gonna stay like that for a long time.
Supposedly, with the lower air intake grills on the sides, the locomotives can take in cooler air, which does not rise like warmer air does. There is less air within a tunnel so to provide cooling of the locomotive's prime movers, therefore, it was a said to be a simple solution to lower the air intake grills. The Bessemer and Lake Erie Railroad has acquired some of these locomotives, being numbered starting with 9##. Myself, I have been seeking more information about them, is why I am watching other videos about them.
Awesome catch! Does anybody know the origins of the Standard SD40-2 (3rd unit back)? It has a straight sidesill and I'm thinking it might be an ex-BC Rail unit.
Due to the radiators set up. The large grill at the rear bottom. Designed to pull cooler air from lower to the ground through the radiators to cool engine block instead of the much hotter air from the top of the locomotive. SP started this for their mountain routes which had alot of tunnels. Their standard locomotives would overheat in them. They went to EMD with their issue and this was the solution. Union Pacific jumped on the bandwagon after SP showed good results and ordered some. The SP and DRGW had the best looking units.
In my opinion, tunnel motors should never meet the scrappers torch. All because they are innovative. At most, I'd put in a 710 just to keep the EPA silent. Or perhaps a 265 H engine. I'd rather keep these beasts running for many more years to come
The 265-H engines were unreliable, consumed too much fuel, and badly polluted the environment. Diesel locomotives (except ALCO's) shouldn't smoke like steam locomotives! LOL
The 265H was a perfectly good engine. Unfortunately the sd9043 gave it a bad name. Nowadays the 265H would be cleaner. And way more efficient than a 710
Johnnie Williams No, that wasn't the case. The 265-H engines were indeed powerful, though they had issues with their crankshafts, pistons, electrical wiring wiring, etc. which is why UP retired all of their SD90MAC-H units in exchange for SD70ACe units (some early SD70ACe's were even kitbashed from SD90MAC-H's!) The SD9043MAC is practically a fuel-consuming (gas-guzzling) SD70ACe, and was the main and only other problem that UP ever really had with it!
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You have to love that sound of the engine revving up
Always good to see the Grande's in action! Even if it's not in the Rockies anymore, Great catch!
My favorite locomotive of all time. I love DRGW Tunnel Motors.
Sights and sounds of the 90s. Best era in modern railroading. Plenty of fallen flags mixing in with the new stuff, EMDs, and no high security bs.
Awesome catch! I really do wonder why Wheeling & Lake Erie had their own engines and their own hoppers pulling trains in and out of Baltimore on CSX tracks 9 to 10 years ago.
Nothing better than the 16-645 engine sound... good catch!
I can watch this video over and over....
thanks for watching! :-)
Great video. Thanks for sharing and a thank you to the engineer for not blowing his horn!
Oh wow... it's like you took a camera back to 1986 and recorded EMDs in their prime with modern equipment.
This is what UP should have done with their Tunnel Motors(Both SP and D&RGW), but instead of embracing their heritage, they wore them down, then let them rust and rot on dead lines, and turned them into unrecognizable Frankenstein engines until they were literally unusable, then they sold the salvageable ones to random class 3 roads, and scrapped the rest.
What a disrespectful and tragic end to such an iconic and legendary engine, and all because they didn't make it... you would never see them treat a UP locomotive like a DD40 like that, but because it wasn't theirs they abused them until there was nothing left, and sold them off like used needles.
Of course SP and D&RGW did not shy away from pushing these units to their limits, but they did not neglect them, or disrespect them, it was just the nature of their freight operations, and as they were the ones who came up with the design, I'd say they earned the right to wear them down a little.
On the bright side, the smaller roads that did acquire some tunnel motors(Like the guys in the video) have consistently been treating them with respect, probably because they feel lucky they even managed to get any locomotive for that price, let alone such a hidden gem such as a Tunnel Motor.
Just proves the quality of EMD 2nd generation diesels, you can use and abuse them for years, and actively try to wear them down, and all it takes is a few replacement parts from the local scrapyard, and a fresh coat of paint, and voila you now have a working 3800hp locomotive to do with as you please.
scrapped...………..I don't think so...…...I suggest you make a visit to Brasil…..a lot of ex SP and DRGW SD40T-2s serve America Latina Logistica, and FCA (now VL!)………..
The good thing about EMD is that they allow third party manufacturers to be licensed to make replacement components for the older EMD's. GE does not do that, they're very anal about such things, and as such, there are very few old GE's (-7/B-Boat and "U" series/U-Boats) in use today.
@@BenjaminEsposti there are a lot of dash 7 still running....emission controls retired them off class 1s....some regulated to shortlines….however Estonia, Brasil, Bolivia, and Colombia now own nearly all the C30-7s, C36-7s. as well as B36, and B30 models....
When tunnel motors blast off, the whole world hears them!
That has to be a reroute, man that's one hell of lash-up. Awesome catch and lash-up
Great clip! Thanks for sharing! Love that Rio Grande paint scheme...my favorite!
There's still DRGW tunnel motors still around? That's so cool! What are these units doing now? Hopefully still running on the W&LE. They kept the paint in great shape, considering they haven't been repainted since 1989.
The most beautiful machines on earth!
GREAT catch. I have not seen tunnel units in Colorado.
I think I will have to put this in the Top 5 Greatest Catches I have seen so far. Great video.
God, I love these locomotives, especially, when it comes to SP or D&RGW, nice catch, man!
Thank you very much!
LOL Wrong horn! K5LA's were only used on some of the DRGW's SD50's! They primarily used P3's, P5's, and S3L's!
Thanks for sharing! Nice catch! Thumbs up as always! Happy Sunday!
Cool video! The sound engine is perfect!
Awesome catch love to see tunnel motors still around!!!
Beautiful times when the train goes round and recorded .. I like this vodeo. greetings from Indonesia
nice part is they're not UP engines they are Wheeling & Lake Erie, hence why they still where Grande colors:)
Isn't the President of the W&LE a former Rio Grande guy or somesuch? Thought I heard that somewhere.
Rio Grande Locos in 2011? Enlighten me plz, i thought it was a fallen flag. Thanks !!
I love This locomotive and Paint scheme ❤
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Awesome video i love tunnel motors I saw some on the trona railroad in sp paint! There was also a Kodachrome sd40r in the lashup i like tunnel motors and its good to know that some are still kickin nice video
Very cool! And thx, but this video is a little old, I'm not sure if they're still around
Cool to see that train switch over to the far left lane. Awesome power
that person drivng the locos is hard on them
wow awesome.....also #6351 was AWVR #7346!.......1 of the sd40-2's that exploded in the movie! :O its a nice video i wish this was mixed freight rather than coke....wat made it interesting were the sd40t-2's leading
Awesome catch, hope to get those tunnel motors someday.
Sad most of these units were either scrapped, stored, or exported but good thing there is some units like these running today
+BaltimoreAndOhioRR that on a coal train,definitely a awesome catch,especially now.
Nice video👍🏼. So do the tunnel motor SD40s still have the 645 v16 prime mover? I take it they just have a bigger radiator than a standard SD40? They look similar to an SD45 with the long hood part running all the way to the back
They look almost as if they had come out just yesterday
A rare and great catch.
Omg more foreign power! great catch!
"long black train coming down the line......feeding off the souls that are lost & crying........."
"Rails of steel, only evil remains, watch out, brother, for that long black train..."
WOW!!!! That's amazing!!!! Great video!!!!!
What an awesome catch they are very rare beautiful shot !
Listen to him run those notches up.... What great catch,
Nice catch.
2 SD45T-2'S and a SD40-2
holy crap.there was a boxcar and 2 gons still in rio grande paint that passed thru whiting indiana
WOW! Two DRGW SD40T-2's.
Nice video Dave!
It sounds like train simulator when you notch up
Great catch, was this Wednesday? Ill be in Baltimore Baileys Wye area Sunday if you're around.
Keep up the great work!
Davis
I may be repeating myself from an earlker vjdeo, but there is nothing better than the sound of ang loco from tge SD-40 family winding up. How did thkse Rio Grandes survive this long in that paint and thosd road numbers?
JAMES MARK Good question! It may not be around anymore...
Actually both still are around, if your ever in Brewster, Ohio. They usally run on the Wheeling there. and yes both still have the same paint and numbers.
Well, it would seem that W&LE has a little bit of a thing for D&RGW, notice the third unit is painted in their own colours which strike me as being almost criminally similar to the old D&RGW colours.
I can't say for certain, but it looks almost like W&LE has been secretly maintaining these two units and keeping the Rio Grande lettering as a tribute, there is no way in hell they came off of the Southern Pacific, or Union Pacific looking like THAT.
If I were to guess, I'd say that these two are gonna stay like that for a long time.
They must have had a good painter and good paint!
Historical units. Originaly for Colorado Rockies Route. Do you know where coal is loaded and then delivered by this train?
EMD- "ROCK ON!
Wowbthat was a rare catch amazing how he crossed over all tracks and speed up sweet
Didn't this happen every morning at 8:00 am in 2010-2011?
im not sure how often it ran. probably not as much as that, or i would have seen it more often!
WHERE DID THIS COME FROM
SD40T-2s!!!!
Nice Catch!
Long live the Rio Grande!
If them locomotives could talk it would be a hell of a story👍
Shoulda told bout this train. Great catch
Why are they called Tunnel Motors? Cool video 😎
Supposedly, with the lower air intake grills on the sides, the locomotives can take in cooler air, which does not rise like warmer air does. There is less air within a tunnel so to provide cooling of the locomotive's prime movers, therefore, it was a said to be a simple solution to lower the air intake grills.
The Bessemer and Lake Erie Railroad has acquired some of these locomotives, being numbered starting with 9##.
Myself, I have been seeking more information about them, is why I am watching other videos about them.
@@williamh.jarvis6795 Thanks for the information. Gary from Michigan 🚂
Wow! Rare is right! Thanks
thx for ur comments!
☹️i used to see them but that was when i wasnt filming yet
Ultimate Railfan You're still lucky you got to see them in person tho.
Awesome
Awesome catch! Does anybody know the origins of the Standard SD40-2 (3rd unit back)? It has a straight sidesill and I'm thinking it might be an ex-BC Rail unit.
It's a former Delaware and Hudson GP-38 REBUILT UNIT SOLD TO RIO GRANDE
Thats a Choice location High action mains.
Wow!
It's really cool when I Short Line railroad has a fallen flag railroad heritage Roster of Their Own
Was this a phosphate , coal , or gravel train
Tunnel motors doing what they were meant to do, haul long coal drags!
long live the W&LE
いい音ですね(^^)
It is a good sound
awesome
That makes my flanges ache! ;)
why, just why, I love K5LAs but why on these tunnel motors, why won't they just keep their original horns like the P3 or M3
Why are they called tunnel motor?
Due to the radiators set up. The large grill at the rear bottom. Designed to pull cooler air from lower to the ground through the radiators to cool engine block instead of the much hotter air from the top of the locomotive. SP started this for their mountain routes which had alot of tunnels. Their standard locomotives would overheat in them. They went to EMD with their issue and this was the solution. Union Pacific jumped on the bandwagon after SP showed good results and ordered some. The SP and DRGW had the best looking units.
Cool catch
Endgeil!!!
Lmao I thought it was a csx train
k thanx
In my opinion, tunnel motors should never meet the scrappers torch. All because they are innovative. At most, I'd put in a 710 just to keep the EPA silent. Or perhaps a 265 H engine. I'd rather keep these beasts running for many more years to come
ya!
The 265-H engines were unreliable, consumed too much fuel, and badly polluted the environment. Diesel locomotives (except ALCO's) shouldn't smoke like steam locomotives! LOL
The 265H was a perfectly good engine. Unfortunately the sd9043 gave it a bad name. Nowadays the 265H would be cleaner. And way more efficient than a 710
Johnnie Williams
No, that wasn't the case. The 265-H engines were indeed powerful, though they had issues with their crankshafts, pistons, electrical wiring wiring, etc. which is why UP retired all of their SD90MAC-H units in exchange for SD70ACe units (some early SD70ACe's were even kitbashed from SD90MAC-H's!) The SD9043MAC is practically a fuel-consuming (gas-guzzling) SD70ACe, and was the main and only other problem that UP ever really had with it!
Ok. What of 265H engines that could be built? Could they be cleaner?
Cool
Who would hve guessed this .......
Wtf?! This is weird!
Bad Ass!
I hope you had a coin on the track.
I LIKE THE IT.
a gift to 5ee that:)
Umm so are these bought by a company like what the fuck is rio grande engines doing over there in csx lines