Just understand it's an aggressive compressor mainly used by professionals for many years to tame transients. That's why you use your ears like the pros
Although I knew this and it may be with it says on the website but from my experience with the CLA specifically not all the other clones I found it to be the opposite despite the history of the knobs being backwards I think a test would be best with the Waves CLA 76
I did know that the A/R values where reversed, but WHAT I had no idea the attack length on an 1176 was THAT short? But that would make sense seeing how so many engineers treat the 1176 like a limiter more than a compressor. Super fast attack times are of course ideal when taming transients in a vocal and such
@@m.digidy4457exactly. Most professionals who used it throughout the years probably have no idea of the exact numbers it'd irrelevant just know that it's an aggressive compressor and use your ears
I got a question then. Since the attach is always very quick in comparison to others, is it better to use other compressors on the kick or snare for example since they have a slower attack?
In my opinion, yes. Unless you’re trying to tame the transient on your drums. I do like the 1176 on vocals because it contains the vocal peaks really well.
So... whats the sifferwnce between the fastest and slowest attack time? Do you hear that difference? Fastest is virtually instant and the skowest is the equivalent of the fastest on any ither conpresssor
So this means that this compressor doesn't let the transients through? Cuz 1-millisecond-sound must look like something like just a microclick. I'm a little bit confused.
Could you do a video on how to decide how much low end should come off of a vocal. Everyone seems to have different opinions or just cuts at 80-100 khz. I feel like there’s some quality tone in that range and I hate having to cut it all out
It depends on the artist voice mic but it obviously also depend on what your going for. To me cutting around 85-100 keeps enough to make it sound more full and sorta like you’re in the studio w the artist and the more u cut the More it starts to sound pushed back in the mix obviously w less of the vocal cutting through
Or… as sound engineers, we could use our EARS and instantly realise the attack knob was orientated that way because we would HEAR what the compressor is doing to our transients? No?? I’ve never understood how people don’t figure this out instantly - unless of course they aren’t LISTENING, and are just twisting knobs for the sake of it just so they can say “look everyone, I used a vintage compressor - doesn’t my tracks sound good!” No… no it doesn’t sound good - because you literally haven’t listened to the affect of the compressor and have just dialled in what the internet told you to. Anyone who needed the information in this video is clearly not opening their ears to hear what their settings are doing to their signal.
For me, I use it on parallel compression tracks for kick, snare, and vocals to squash the peaks. I’ll also use it lightly on the main vocal to catch peaks.
I feel like the 1176 overrated however it can be used to great effect but for my vocals it has this effect where it adds color to it in a weird way idk
this is compressor, an audio plugin which makes loud peaks quieter, so it can brings overall volume up without distorting it, and this is one of fast ones that react to loud peaks very soon after they hit to tame attack from sound. this one differ from other compressors that intentionally pass more attack to make sound punchier
"This is a very fast attack" when you get home and your wife is already nagging you
True 😂
I learned it too late LOL. appreciate you
Fr 😂
@@predatorx8081That's a plus. I learned with this one and despised every other one for the longest time 😂
Jerry you've taught me that the manual is always the best before the general knowledge i got
Fr I thought 1 on the attack meant fastest
Theo Von is truly a man of many talents
This is the main reason for parallel processing with this device. Good on you for posting this.
Just understand it's an aggressive compressor mainly used by professionals for many years to tame transients. That's why you use your ears like the pros
Damn I knew 1176 has a fast attack, but I would have never guessed how much. That's super interesting
No wonder I've always liked the sound of a slow or slow medium attack on vocals with this comp
Quality information and straight to the point. Keep it up bandito
That’s a gem I didn’t know that
This may be the first time I've actually learned something useful from a youtube short
Lesson here is RTFM.
Thanks for this video, you're going to save a lot of frustration for a lot of people 👍
RTFM and "if it sounds good, it is good" were my school's main mottos
Never knew about the figures. Thanks for dropping this gem
It's in the manual
Thank you so much. So many are Confused about this because most other compressor plugins from other companies confused a lot
Thank you for this for real.
That explains a lot about it's popularity. Nice one. :)
Wow. I had no idea for real. That’s insane
Thank you for this for real. Finally a clear video
Although I knew this and it may be with it says on the website but from my experience with the CLA specifically not all the other clones I found it to be the opposite despite the history of the knobs being backwards I think a test would be best with the Waves CLA 76
Yup
100th time I've son a video on this. This can't be fulfilling bro.
I don’t think I’ve seen one video on this.
This is what makes it ideal for rap
This is dope info i appreciate it
What? I have to subscribe right away.. good information I know this today been using it wrong
U are the greatest😊
I did know that the A/R values where reversed, but WHAT I had no idea the attack length on an 1176 was THAT short? But that would make sense seeing how so many engineers treat the 1176 like a limiter more than a compressor. Super fast attack times are of course ideal when taming transients in a vocal and such
You wouldn’t even know how much this video is needed 😂😂
Thanks! Make it so we can hear it in the next vid!
I owned a real Tube-Tech CL-IB.
After years of magical service, I had to sell it. A long story!
wow the amount of tracks ive used this wrong on 😅😅😅
😂 But if it sounds good; it is good.
@@m.digidy4457exactly. Most professionals who used it throughout the years probably have no idea of the exact numbers it'd irrelevant just know that it's an aggressive compressor and use your ears
+1
1176 greatest of all times
Thanks for sharing this!
I JUST learned this a few weeks ago.... Had to go back and adjust each of my tracks 🤦
Instructive thanks !
Thanks so much for this
my fav comp
Good to know!! :-) Thank you!
Thank alot for this tip bro
Great info.
Nice.
Thank you 🎉
very true thank you
Yuuup. It’s what took me so long to start using one. Never sounded right.
😮 didn't know! Thanks
thank you sir i did not kno this!!!
Thanks for this
Damn, Thanks!!!
Thank you.
that’s wild
The attack knob fastest setting is to the right.
Thanks man 👍🏾
How did I not know this earlier
Some manufacturers make those knobs backwards to make it more “normal.”
bruh this whole fucking time i been using it wrong no wonder my mixes been a lil harder to mix😂 whole time it was backwards lol
Wow... i didnt know that
I have no idea what the hell any of this means but I'm glad your music has a good offensive stat
I love 1176
Thank dude
It’s actually audible. Oh my heavens to Betsy. If you can’t hear attack and release enough to know you need to stop.
This only waves or all plugins of this model compressor?
Thanks
Thank you! -=80)
"i'm fast as fk boy"
So how does it make it better being super fast
So how would you use it differently compared to a regular compressor?
😊😊
I got a question then. Since the attach is always very quick in comparison to others, is it better to use other compressors on the kick or snare for example since they have a slower attack?
In my opinion, yes. Unless you’re trying to tame the transient on your drums. I do like the 1176 on vocals because it contains the vocal peaks really well.
When would you even use that slow of an attack? Maybe to level off transients? Feels like you might as well set it to instant.
Yep, that’s what it sounds like, CLA-76’ attack is slower than it should be.
I always though that it felt off. Now I know why. lol
newbie here, would this be useful on percussive elements and stuff with very sharp and quick transients?
Wow
How make the right sec on vocals
never knew.
YUP
❤❤
it is still worth for a mastering chain or better a vari-mu type?
voila, the manual is the secret. ;)
So... whats the sifferwnce between the fastest and slowest attack time? Do you hear that difference?
Fastest is virtually instant and the skowest is the equivalent of the fastest on any ither conpresssor
So this means that this compressor doesn't let the transients through? Cuz 1-millisecond-sound must look like something like just a microclick. I'm a little bit confused.
Could you do a video on how to decide how much low end should come off of a vocal. Everyone seems to have different opinions or just cuts at 80-100 khz. I feel like there’s some quality tone in that range and I hate having to cut it all out
I’ll put it on the list.
It depends on the artist voice mic but it obviously also depend on what your going for. To me cutting around 85-100 keeps enough to make it sound more full and sorta like you’re in the studio w the artist and the more u cut the More it starts to sound pushed back in the mix obviously w less of the vocal cutting through
Does anybody kno a good setting for rap vocals im still learning🥴
Holy shit my guy 😅
That’s a Titan Attack… 😊
does it work the same way also on Slate Digital’s VMR with all the colors of compressor (black one, blue one also)?
I don’t have those plugins but I’d assume so if they’re emulations of the 1176.
Which is this mic and your interface? I guess neumann and.?
Or… as sound engineers, we could use our EARS and instantly realise the attack knob was orientated that way because we would HEAR what the compressor is doing to our transients? No?? I’ve never understood how people don’t figure this out instantly - unless of course they aren’t LISTENING, and are just twisting knobs for the sake of it just so they can say “look everyone, I used a vintage compressor - doesn’t my tracks sound good!” No… no it doesn’t sound good - because you literally haven’t listened to the affect of the compressor and have just dialled in what the internet told you to. Anyone who needed the information in this video is clearly not opening their ears to hear what their settings are doing to their signal.
Sadly, it's the typical modern scenario.
Mixing with their eyes and not their ears.
💯
that's why my vocals sound awful when I used it. I know I'm doing it wrong 😭
!!!!!!‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
finally someone is talking about that. Producers need to study more their own craft lol
Didn’t know
So what are you guys using this 1176 comp for ? More for kicks ?
For me, I use it on parallel compression tracks for kick, snare, and vocals to squash the peaks. I’ll also use it lightly on the main vocal to catch peaks.
I never knew that. Hm. So this is really only a fast attack compressor.
Except if you gotta Bluey lol! The attack is reversed!
I feel like the 1176 overrated however it can be used to great effect but for my vocals it has this effect where it adds color to it in a weird way idk
But does it go to 11?
Let's hear the difference then
What is this?
where is the puppet ?
I think you talking about an other engineer "Reid Stefan".
I swear the serum FX rack compressor attack is 1 sample lol
Can someone explain the context? And what software this is? What it's used for?
this is compressor, an audio plugin which makes loud peaks quieter, so it can brings overall volume up without distorting it, and this is one of fast ones that react to loud peaks very soon after they hit to tame attack from sound. this one differ from other compressors that intentionally pass more attack to make sound punchier