I was watching the video and then happened to open up the patch notes and saw they nerfed and came back and saw you already posted this. Its actually so incredibly sad because feels like theres no decent decent way to make good amounts of gold now if not in merchant guild
@@FrozenSentinel you're way more knowledgeable than me and it seems like youve done research on components in the game. for someone like me who is around lvl 75 and hasnt hit empowered monoliths yet or gone deep in arena, would you recommend i stay in CoF at this point or just switch over?
Check out my update video; th-cam.com/video/1GMLrk-a0KA/w-d-xo.html@@geezusotl4021 Not much actually changes in the big picture, IMO. If you already don't really enjoy trade, this won't be what tips the balance. That set, if you enjoy playing off meta builds you may do better with Merchant's guild, as those niche items are just as hard to find for CoF players, but much cheaper for Merchant's
One thing to add to this: experience reward monos are much more likely to appear at the start. So the strategy is often to run until you get a corruption you like, then just do the whole area around the center until 3-4 tiers deep, then reset with the least amount of -corruption, and repeat the process. If your corruption drops too low, just push out and kill the shade to get back to your "happy" corruption
someone who's been grinding monos for gold to buy more stashes this is very helpful - didn't notice the keys sells that well. Thank you so much. You have earned a new sub.
Thank you I appreciate that. I work as a Software Engineer so I often have to explain complex technical problems, find that helps with this sort of thing
@@FrozenSentinel Oh, that's good to know. I'm a PhD in linguistics and I find it enjoyable when people speak clearly. I'm happy that we are all having fun playing this great game.
Your compliment means a lot to me then, coming from a true language expert. I'll be honest though, I do touch up my video in editing to reduce pauses, rambling, "uhm"s, etc. as I find it makes the flow feel a lot smoother and concise.@@alexanderpavlenko6332
Thank you. I horde as any good circle of fortune member would and man my gold just started dropping so fast as I started buying stash tabs and narrowing my loot filters especially as I got to higher corruption levels. Idk when the stash tab cost tops out if at all but I love organization and I need about double or triple the tabs to feel awesome. Hope I don’t have to buy stash tabs every cycle.
Unfortunately this trick was nerfed in the 1.0.2 patch, if you need to farm gold fast you should take the gold blessing, it stacks with the double mono rewards.
And it's gone. Latest Patch reduces the gold you get for an arena key to something ~300 gold from 6-7k before the patch :(. Additionally XP tomes can no longer be doubled by CoF.
Arena keys are now worth 175gold each :( , I guess its because of people using the phantom dupe exploit and selling them to NPC's , (5mins for 728k gp/ full key inventory) Update 1.0.2 changed arena key prices from 6500 to 175 g
Thanks for the info. I just hit lvl9 on mechants guild and am working putting an item settogether to level up my CoF. I am looking to farm gold as efficiently as possible in CoF and then use it to complete my set in merchants guild
All you really need to know to calculate gold per hour is your XP/HR since 750xp = 1 favor. I haven't personally timed myself for this as I just grab a few keys here and there when I want more stash tabs among other prophecies.
i also wanna know how much per hr since im playing trade and some streamers are saying that this ruined the economy but im not sure about it. Can you stimated some numbers? please frozen ;D I was doing about 5-10m each day playing trade at around 600-900corruption for example
@@zMezzanine511 at rank 10 with efficient play you can get 250k ish gold per xp echo on average. If you take 2 minutes per echo to account for time spent grabbing prophecies and clearing inventories, you could do 30 per hour. You might be able to get 50% of your echos to be xp tome if you do the reset trick, so maybe 15 per hour. That would be about 3.75M per hour. You also get some xp from just killing monsters at a rate lower than that, so probably over 4M total. Even if it takes twice as long, you could be at over 2M/hr. That said, they just nerfed this to the ground so it doesn't matter; th-cam.com/video/1GMLrk-a0KA/w-d-xo.html
great video as always frozen. i just have 1 question if you can help me. i am lvl 10 in CoF already, but when i finish prophecies it does not trigger the double reward unlocked at lvl 10. have you experience the same issue? or am i bugged? thanks for sharing
Specifically for keys or for anything? I haven't had any issues with duplication from Rank 10 myself but it's possible it doesn't work for non gear items. I know for certain all of my LP drops were duplicated but it's harder to tell if a consumable is duplicated since they all look the same anyway.
How did you get so many bone helmets? guides ive seen say black sun timeline rare nodes but ive farmed for near 10 hours up to 300 corruption never seen one
You are probably looking at old guides, you should just get the unique helm prophecy and spam them. Use 2x use 2x quantity lenses + unique lens if Rank 9+
u should use the pin'd tactic and your optimization and check how much u can get an hour with this . Even though u need to farm favor u can just farm enough for a 3 hour session of this . Depending the ammount of gold might be worth the shot. Good video !
It would depend heavily on your build, how well / fast you play, and RNG, but yeah you could do that. Though it would probably be better to just create a formula with input time per map, average amount of xp echos per X amount of maps, and average rerolls needed for arena key. From that you could get a pretty accurate expected gold per hour
Run the XP Reward Echos in Monoliths, then use the favor to take the Arena Key prophecy in the region labeled "idols", then fulfill the prophecy, then sell the keys
Hey buddy, thanks for the great video, made my CoF progress waaaay faster with the tomes of xp. Do you happen to know why you sometimes get 6 tomes of xp instead of 3, I can't seem to figure out why, or if it's a bug? Thanks in advance
Now I'm wondering if I would run 10% more exp or 70% more gold from the first blessing to get more gold, I assume gold since the exp blessing doesnt effect tomes and gold doesnt effect selling prices so it's only for my regular mob killing that its relevant. I would have to test my avg gold and exp gain over a few echoes and then see how that exp transaltes into favor into selling keys vs just getting the gold+bonus
This is a really weird take, I'm just providing players with a legitimate way to farm gold fast without using any exploits. Bad actors are always going to find a way to abuse the system, and hopefully be banned as a result. I'm not going to withhold useful information to thousands of legitimate players, just because it might also have a benefit to a small number of bad ones.
THIS HAS BEEN NERFED! th-cam.com/video/1GMLrk-a0KA/w-d-xo.html
I was watching the video and then happened to open up the patch notes and saw they nerfed and came back and saw you already posted this. Its actually so incredibly sad because feels like theres no decent decent way to make good amounts of gold now if not in merchant guild
Yea the disparity was already big between the top Merchant players vs top CoF players, it just gets wider. @@geezusotl4021
@@FrozenSentinel you're way more knowledgeable than me and it seems like youve done research on components in the game. for someone like me who is around lvl 75 and hasnt hit empowered monoliths yet or gone deep in arena, would you recommend i stay in CoF at this point or just switch over?
Check out my update video; th-cam.com/video/1GMLrk-a0KA/w-d-xo.html@@geezusotl4021
Not much actually changes in the big picture, IMO. If you already don't really enjoy trade, this won't be what tips the balance.
That set, if you enjoy playing off meta builds you may do better with Merchant's guild, as those niche items are just as hard to find for CoF players, but much cheaper for Merchant's
One thing to add to this: experience reward monos are much more likely to appear at the start. So the strategy is often to run until you get a corruption you like, then just do the whole area around the center until 3-4 tiers deep, then reset with the least amount of -corruption, and repeat the process.
If your corruption drops too low, just push out and kill the shade to get back to your "happy" corruption
Thanks for mentioning that, good point for optimizing
Not all heroes wear capes, some just used spreadsheets.
Haha, love it!
someone who's been grinding monos for gold to buy more stashes this is very helpful - didn't notice the keys sells that well. Thank you so much. You have earned a new sub.
Great work, and thank you for not making this an hour long.
You are the best, dude. Keep it up. I like the way you speak - it makes an impression that you are a smart and a well-educated person. Cheers!
Thank you I appreciate that. I work as a Software Engineer so I often have to explain complex technical problems, find that helps with this sort of thing
@@FrozenSentinel Oh, that's good to know. I'm a PhD in linguistics and I find it enjoyable when people speak clearly. I'm happy that we are all having fun playing this great game.
Your compliment means a lot to me then, coming from a true language expert. I'll be honest though, I do touch up my video in editing to reduce pauses, rambling, "uhm"s, etc. as I find it makes the flow feel a lot smoother and concise.@@alexanderpavlenko6332
Thank you. I horde as any good circle of fortune member would and man my gold just started dropping so fast as I started buying stash tabs and narrowing my loot filters especially as I got to higher corruption levels. Idk when the stash tab cost tops out if at all but I love organization and I need about double or triple the tabs to feel awesome. Hope I don’t have to buy stash tabs every cycle.
Unfortunately this trick was nerfed in the 1.0.2 patch, if you need to farm gold fast you should take the gold blessing, it stacks with the double mono rewards.
And it's gone. Latest Patch reduces the gold you get for an arena key to something ~300 gold from 6-7k before the patch :(.
Additionally XP tomes can no longer be doubled by CoF.
Brutal CoF Nerfs when Merchant is already better on the absolute top end
When someone opens a spreadsheet before starting to explain, you know you can blindly trust him...very well played man
trust the sheet
Jeezus, you did it again! Awesome tip, thanks a lot! 😄
Arena keys are now worth 175gold each :( , I guess its because of people using the phantom dupe exploit and selling them to NPC's , (5mins for 728k gp/ full key inventory)
Update 1.0.2 changed arena key prices from 6500 to 175 g
fantastic work, deserving of a sub 👍
Thanks for the info. I just hit lvl9 on mechants guild and am working putting an item settogether to level up my CoF. I am looking to farm gold as efficiently as possible in CoF and then use it to complete my set in merchants guild
be aware the faction drops need faction rank to use, do not drop your faction before checking what items you can continue using
How much gold per hr u were able to make with this strat?
All you really need to know to calculate gold per hour is your XP/HR since 750xp = 1 favor. I haven't personally timed myself for this as I just grab a few keys here and there when I want more stash tabs among other prophecies.
@FrozenSentinel nevermind they nerfed it to the ground prices of keys are now ~200
yup, can't help but feel like I helped make that nerf happen :(@@brzozx7651
i also wanna know how much per hr since im playing trade and some streamers are saying that this ruined the economy but im not sure about it. Can you stimated some numbers? please frozen ;D
I was doing about 5-10m each day playing trade at around 600-900corruption for example
@@zMezzanine511 at rank 10 with efficient play you can get 250k ish gold per xp echo on average. If you take 2 minutes per echo to account for time spent grabbing prophecies and clearing inventories, you could do 30 per hour. You might be able to get 50% of your echos to be xp tome if you do the reset trick, so maybe 15 per hour. That would be about 3.75M per hour. You also get some xp from just killing monsters at a rate lower than that, so probably over 4M total.
Even if it takes twice as long, you could be at over 2M/hr.
That said, they just nerfed this to the ground so it doesn't matter; th-cam.com/video/1GMLrk-a0KA/w-d-xo.html
great video as always frozen. i just have 1 question if you can help me. i am lvl 10 in CoF already, but when i finish prophecies it does not trigger the double reward unlocked at lvl 10. have you experience the same issue? or am i bugged? thanks for sharing
Specifically for keys or for anything? I haven't had any issues with duplication from Rank 10 myself but it's possible it doesn't work for non gear items. I know for certain all of my LP drops were duplicated but it's harder to tell if a consumable is duplicated since they all look the same anyway.
i tried with legendaries and idols and hour ago and it works fine, it seems like keys arent count as items kinda sad tbh@@FrozenSentinel
EXP Tomes also net the most gold on merchants
I was not aware, good to know!
How did you get so many bone helmets? guides ive seen say black sun timeline rare nodes but ive farmed for near 10 hours up to 300 corruption never seen one
You are probably looking at old guides, you should just get the unique helm prophecy and spam them. Use 2x use 2x quantity lenses + unique lens if Rank 9+
@@FrozenSentinel will give it a try thanks
u should use the pin'd tactic and your optimization and check how much u can get an hour with this . Even though u need to farm favor u can just farm enough for a 3 hour session of this . Depending the ammount of gold might be worth the shot. Good video !
It would depend heavily on your build, how well / fast you play, and RNG, but yeah you could do that. Though it would probably be better to just create a formula with input time per map, average amount of xp echos per X amount of maps, and average rerolls needed for arena key. From that you could get a pretty accurate expected gold per hour
I see makes sense to me
@@FrozenSentinel Ty for answering !
I watched this twice and I'm a bit lost =p.
Is there a summary of what I should do?
Run the XP Reward Echos in Monoliths, then use the favor to take the Arena Key prophecy in the region labeled "idols", then fulfill the prophecy, then sell the keys
You are a genius! Thank you!
what exactly is the point of the arena?
You don't run Arena, you sell the keys to the NPC for 6500 gold
Giga-brain content as always.
very good, subscribed
Hey buddy, thanks for the great video, made my CoF progress waaaay faster with the tomes of xp. Do you happen to know why you sometimes get 6 tomes of xp instead of 3, I can't seem to figure out why, or if it's a bug? Thanks in advance
It's the faction bonus at rank 5 I think, you have a chance to double your mono reward
As the other commenter said, it's CoF Rank 5
lastepoch.tunklab.com/faction/circle_of_fortune
@@justan0therday140 Oh man, of course that makes a lot of sense, thanks both of you!
Now I'm wondering if I would run 10% more exp or 70% more gold from the first blessing to get more gold, I assume gold since the exp blessing doesnt effect tomes and gold doesnt effect selling prices so it's only for my regular mob killing that its relevant. I would have to test my avg gold and exp gain over a few echoes and then see how that exp transaltes into favor into selling keys vs just getting the gold+bonus
I'm not sure the xp blessing impacts favor gain from monster xp, it might just be base xp. Would need to test this
nvm voice volume is way better on this one :)))
Yea I made the fix after the suggestion, I don't see a way to fix the already uploaded video though :(
I kinda hate doin arena coz sometimes they spawn slow moving zombies and i have to find em
I don't follow. You aren't running the arena, you sell the keys to the NPC
@@FrozenSentinel i thought u were running them lol
lol definitely not, hate arena@@xozneenzox8485
OK, why do we even need so much gold in this game?
Mostly tabs, if you are a CoF player. Lightless too but I don't think it's that useful with how good prophecies are
nice
Sub! Thank you.
Without fix this will 100% break the MG market.
They could just set arena key sell value to 200 like the other keys
Videos like this are facilitating gold sellers, which have shown up in the last two days or so.
This is a really weird take, I'm just providing players with a legitimate way to farm gold fast without using any exploits. Bad actors are always going to find a way to abuse the system, and hopefully be banned as a result. I'm not going to withhold useful information to thousands of legitimate players, just because it might also have a benefit to a small number of bad ones.
Bro, Circle of Fortune people can't trade with Merchant Guild people.
Can they?
@@VitchAndVorty i think they can switch between both faction with their unethical playtime
You don't lose the gold if you switch, I do know some players have used this trick then switched to Merchant's@@VitchAndVorty