Yes people, duct tape is a must especially if you plan on passing Tech inspection at a track day. He is a former racer and the ones laughing at the duct tape are not.
Duct tape is not there to hold the weights on. It's added insurance to keep weights on if they get a little loose. It's a racing thing, not absolutely necessary. But won't hurt anything.
Dude that is a huge amount of weight for a front wheel, in this case I think it would be a good idea to rotate the tire on the wheel 180 degrees to the valve stem to see if the weights can be dropped. You can't see if the tire balance mark is lined up in the video.
Without a balance machine this is exactly the way to do it. But with that many I would split the weights and put half on each side. No reason that's just me.
Yeah, professionals measure the lateral imbalance as well as the radial imbalance. If you had no lateral imbalance, after putting all weight on one side, you definitely do now
Do this to the bare rim first, mark the heavy spot, then again the the tyre. Then oppose the heavy spots when fitting the tyre to the rim and this will minimise the weight to be added for balancing.
hey. Is the side on which the weights are placed indifferent? because you put the weights on the right side of the wheel, could you put it on the left side? thanks for the video
That tyre must have been fitted wrong to need so many weights, never seen so many before and I used to change tyres for a living lol I think someone must have got confused with the heavy and light marks on the tyre when fitting it.
As someone who commutes on shitty highways and streets 5 days a week the vibration and pot holes eventually knock weights off my front wheel. My last balance I literally lost all my weights
While i agree with the method, i do want it more secured. I don't want to do the math but I'd be worried about a gram of anything taped down to a 25" wheel spinning over 800rpm.
@@markgallagher2386 if you put a coin without glue it will stay there till you stop. Tape is doesnt help on a double side sticker with centrifugal force.
András Papp most rims aren’t flat they taper to the outside of the wheel so the coin would slide off, but as mentioned several times the tape is required by tech for racing and some track days. I’ve never used it on the road.
The weights being on both or one side will have nearly no effect. Some bikes(even higher end ones) come from the factory with weights only on one side of the rim, i'd think that the manufacturer of higher end bikes, know what they do. Also the tape is quite normal, just an extra insurance the weights wont fall due to rain getting to the glue (mostly important for cheaper weights)
Its actually semi common practice, keeps rain and shit from the weights and helps to keep them on, Ive had tireshops do it too, some do it, some dont, also depends on what quality weights you use, the cheap ones have a tendency to come loose if you ride in the rain alot, and some good tape will prevent it.
looks like he is trying to show the balancing stand is crap😂 the wheel needs to turn extremely easily. either buy better bearings or maybe heat them so the grease gets thinner
Most of those static balance rigs are shite....cones very badly drilled. Wish you had of taken the wheel off turned it 90 deg....I bet it would no longer show in balance.
Dude. Everything in this video screams wrong! From the amount of weights to the duct tape to all of them on one side. I`m pretty sure this fixed nothing
DO NOT DO THIS!! That's a truing stand. That's for correcting run out and hop of the rim. It has absolutely nothing to do with balancing the wheel. A static balancer is a tool that uses a bubble window and the wheel lays horizontal.(Dirt bike riders know what I'm talking about). Take it from an M.M.I. graduate, do not use this technique balancing.
You are wrong. The stand used is a balancing stand. A truing stand is similar in design. I have one that serves both purposes. Please pay attention to the bearings on each end of the stand. The axle is placed on the bearing couple on each end allowing it to rotate freely, much more freely than using just the original wheel axle, where the grease or seals would create some level of friction. I've been balancing my wheels this way for decades and this method works.
I doesn't matter. You could use two jack stands and an axle, or two milk crates and a threaded rod. I accomplishes the same thing via static balancing.
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Yes people, duct tape is a must especially if you plan on passing Tech inspection at a track day. He is a former racer and the ones laughing at the duct tape are not.
Duct tape is not there to hold the weights on. It's added insurance to keep weights on if they get a little loose. It's a racing thing, not absolutely necessary. But won't hurt anything.
Dude that is a huge amount of weight for a front wheel, in this case I think it would be a good idea to rotate the tire on the wheel 180 degrees to the valve stem to see if the weights can be dropped. You can't see if the tire balance mark is lined up in the video.
Jack stands and some conduit work well also. Nice video!
Great video as I am planning on buying the Rabaconda tire changer and wanting to balance the tire too for my KTM 890 Adventure R.
I thought you would put half the weights on the otherside opposite!
Without a balance machine this is exactly the way to do it. But with that many I would split the weights and put half on each side. No reason that's just me.
what a nice simple video
Would like to have seen the vice method done. Was it just any old smooth steel bar? Does it need to be the right diameter?
That's quite alot of weights on there..
Wouldn`t it be better if you split the weight in two and stick them in both sides of the rim?
absolutely.
Yeah, professionals measure the lateral imbalance as well as the radial imbalance.
If you had no lateral imbalance, after putting all weight on one side, you definitely do now
Its not as important on motorcycles.
@@MqKosmos how do you measure lateral imbalance tho?
Do this to the bare rim first, mark the heavy spot, then again the the tyre. Then oppose the heavy spots when fitting the tyre to the rim and this will minimise the weight to be added for balancing.
Or just mount lightest part of tyre ( indicated by yellow or red dot and varies from companies to companies) to valve stem area , it's done ✅
Couldn't you do this with the tire initially being put on, but before adding air and setting the bead?
Four times the work to save on 4 cents of weights.
Brilliant 😎
This is much easier than I thought it would be lil
hey. Is the side on which the weights are placed indifferent? because you put the weights on the right side of the wheel, could you put it on the left side? thanks for the video
I like how you show the vice 😏
Is that something that I can really do, because I did not see you do any adjustment?
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I opted to use duct tape as my weights, I may have a 1 inch brick of tape on my wheel, but it ain't comin off leme tell ya
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Great video
Thanks, going to buy one of these stands.
Is there anything duck tape can't do?? lol
It doesn't work on ducks, I tried it! LoL
yeah, we have the same 'balancer', only mine is black
Put weights on both sides of the rim, not just one like in this video. Duct tape is not needed for road use.
What about the bearing spacer? It is free to move and alter the balance.
Stan Rodgers, the spacers job it's to keep the wheel a set distance from the forks.
Being so close to the centre will have very little impact on the rim
How do you know of need be on left or right side of the wheel?
Omg thats what those bits of metal are on my rim, and i was tempted to pull them off haha
Good video
That tyre must have been fitted wrong to need so many weights, never seen so many before and I used to change tyres for a living lol
I think someone must have got confused with the heavy and light marks on the tyre when fitting it.
Really good video
Not sure why you need to tape the weights on, the original tape an centrifugal force should do the job.
As someone who commutes on shitty highways and streets 5 days a week the vibration and pot holes eventually knock weights off my front wheel. My last balance I literally lost all my weights
Very straight forward but: you need to split the weight and put it on both sides, and don't use duct tape.
Duct tape is a track thing
That looked like a lot of weights. I’d have tried spinning the tyre through 180 degree 1st to see if it made a difference.
While i agree with the method, i do want it more secured. I don't want to do the math but I'd be worried about a gram of anything taped down to a 25" wheel spinning over 800rpm.
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What is wrong with the Duct?
Looks 👍
Nobody does this in India
I do it for my Interceptor as DIY
perfect
the axis doesn't have to be perfect level. Even the axis is a little bit of tilt, the heaviest part of the wheel still goes down
i use to be work in tyre service for few years, never ever was hear about this duct tape thinks. Centrifugation will force the weight on the wheel.
András Papp duct tape tends to be used on race bikes as extra security against loosing the weights.
@@markgallagher2386 if you put a coin without glue it will stay there till you stop. Tape is doesnt help on a double side sticker with centrifugal force.
András Papp most rims aren’t flat they taper to the outside of the wheel so the coin would slide off, but as mentioned several times the tape is required by tech for racing and some track days. I’ve never used it on the road.
But who wants to ride around with Duck Tape on the tire rim all the time? Surely someone could come up with a method to prevent this?
/Oh, but is nut some shitty ductape! It's Gucci, PacoRabanne kinda tape! Fancy right?
It's a track thing you tart
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Wrong,i wouldn stick all weights on one side of the rim .
And duct tape ? Cmon....
The weights being on both or one side will have nearly no effect. Some bikes(even higher end ones) come from the factory with weights only on one side of the rim, i'd think that the manufacturer of higher end bikes, know what they do. Also the tape is quite normal, just an extra insurance the weights wont fall due to rain getting to the glue (mostly important for cheaper weights)
Haha. Never balanced wheels before and no track huh?
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You had me until the duct tape...
me too... he is the second guy I've seen doing "that" until "that"... was cool
At most race tracks they require tape on top of the weights for added protection against losing weights.
My local shop also uses duct tape over the weights..
Its actually semi common practice, keeps rain and shit from the weights and helps to keep them on, Ive had tireshops do it too, some do it, some dont, also depends on what quality weights you use, the cheap ones have a tendency to come loose if you ride in the rain alot, and some good tape will prevent it.
T rex and gorilla tape would be better. At least it won't stick out like a sore thumb as much lol
Hvac tape instead of duct tape, hold up to heat better
2 thumb up..
looks like he is trying to show the balancing stand is crap😂 the wheel needs to turn extremely easily. either buy better bearings or maybe heat them so the grease gets thinner
Duct tape lmao :D
Most of those static balance rigs are shite....cones very badly drilled.
Wish you had of taken the wheel off turned it 90 deg....I bet it would no longer show in balance.
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Y dont u just stick the weights on the same place where it was before
Duck tape?
It takes 24 hours for the weights adhesive to cure, thus the duct tape
If you're going to use duct tape why waste money on weights...use flat washers instead lol
Duct tape is needed for track. It is for insurance incase the weights lose tackiness and help prevent water getting into adhesive.
Dude. Everything in this video screams wrong! From the amount of weights to the duct tape to all of them on one side. I`m pretty sure this fixed nothing
Duct tape!!!!!! Really?
You also didn't show how you worked out the amount of weights to fit or if they only fit on one side of the rim??
DO NOT DO THIS!! That's a truing stand. That's for correcting run out and hop of the rim. It has absolutely nothing to do with balancing the wheel. A static balancer is a tool that uses a bubble window and the wheel lays horizontal.(Dirt bike riders know what I'm talking about). Take it from an M.M.I. graduate, do not use this technique balancing.
You are wrong. The stand used is a balancing stand. A truing stand is similar in design. I have one that serves both purposes. Please pay attention to the bearings on each end of the stand. The axle is placed on the bearing couple on each end allowing it to rotate freely, much more freely than using just the original wheel axle, where the grease or seals would create some level of friction. I've been balancing my wheels this way for decades and this method works.
I doesn't matter. You could use two jack stands and an axle, or two milk crates and a threaded rod. I accomplishes the same thing via static balancing.
Ha get fucked.
Duct tape? Really?
This is the worst way to balance a tire. Get a machine
Its classic static balancing and there is nothing wrong with this method.