How To Balance a Motorcycle Tire and Wheel from SportbikeTrackGear.com
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In this video we show you how Van balances a front wheel from his Yamaha YZF-R6. He also offers up a couple of useful hints to make the job go smoothly. Please use the link above to visit our site and view the entire ""How To"" Series of Videos.
The purpose behind this video is to offer a look a what it takes to do this job. Every motorcycle is a little different so the procedure will vary accordingly. As always if you are not comfortable working on your own bike please take it to a licensed motorcycle technician. This video is for entertainment purposes only.
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Before I seat the bead. I balance the rim and tire together. Moving the tire on the rim. A lot of times you can eliminate 1/2 of the weights.
That's a solid idea! - Van
Smart. I'd use a red marker. Shows up better on the tire.
There was a guy on TH-cam showing where usually stands the heaviest part of the tire itself and then the rim heaviest part is where the valve is. So I guess if I counter balance and put the heaviest part of the tire opposite to the valve, them I would need way less balance weights at the end
@@bulltivation7846 the valve stem isn't always the heaviest part. use the balancer to find the heaviest part and mark it with a red circle. then you just match the red circles everytime
This is awesome! I knew what balancing was for, but I never knew it was such as simple process to do! great vid.
Thanks for the video's Mr. Brian Van.... I just love reading and commenting on some of these intelligent comments people leave under your video's :)
You are welcome and thank you for the support! - Van
Great video, thanks very well explained
You are welcome and thank you for watching! - Van
Great video! I was gonna replace my tires and bearings and take the wheels to a garage for balancing. Thought it would be to diffucult to do myself. But this video showed me that it is easy to do at home. Thanks !! :)
Simple and very effective
great job. I m buying one of these tomorrow! thank you!
You are welcome and thank you for watching! - Van
best video tutor yet on properly aligning tires and wheels after installation.
Thank you very much for this video.
Hey! I found a question! You just did a perfect balance weight… and you also glued extra weight on wheels one side!!! Should you split this weight to both wheel sides left and right?😮
If the assembly only requires a small amount of weight I will put it all on one side. For those which require more weight I will split it in half and fix one to each side. - Van
Cool seeing you did this eight years ago to! Knew something was off when I first started watching 😆 great info as always Van!
We have been doing these videos for a long time now. Thanks for watching! - Van
Should I leave the cush drive on when balancing my rear wheel? Also, when installing a new rotor, should I rebalance a wheel? Thanks.
Great little tutorial on basic wheel balancing, cheers mate :-)
Agreed
Hey, I love this video and am seriously considering this as an option for tyre installation going forward, tho I am curious to know if the side of the wheel you attach weight to matters?
Any reason you don't split the weights on left and right side of the wheels? Instead of putting all the weights on just the one side?
*Edit* Nevermind, misread your comment.
+Ryan K i was thinking the same thing, maybe he just got lazy. I'm sure if it was his wheel he would have split the weights and put them evenly on both sides of the wheel...
+Ryan K It doesn't matter really, by this balancing method only static balance(radial) can be achieved... to dynamically balance the wheel (both radial and side force) this method cannot be used.
hi..should we put the weight on both sides? left & right side of the rims?
4 years too late, but yes, in this case there are 4 of the same amount of weight, just divide it into two and put it on both sides.
@@ViezeVingertjes I think not.. because the heaviest part was exactly across the spot he marked.. That's why he only put the weights on the marked spot. If he was to put more weights on the place you guys mention.. he would just dis-balance the tire again..
Lets just over complicate everything, never actually do it.
I will be getting one of those for sure!!!
Thank you video teaching and i tell you, the yamaha repair guide of wheel balance step same this video step.
i use 2 chairs, and a poll through the axle and the axle through the wheel
and i don't stop it with my hand
That will do in a pinch. - Van
Wow amazing video it is very helpful video
Is it normal to have external wheel Balancer in newly purchased bike?
I am not really sure what you are asking here. You should only really need to balance the tires on your bike when you are replacing them. - Van
this video was on point man for real
Thanks for watching! - Van
Do you want to have the rear sprocket and carrier on the wheel when balancing the rear tire?
How does this compare to using a speed machine?
You can get an excellent result with this method. This is all we use. - Van
THANKSSS
You are welcome and thank you for watching. - Van
Wouldn’t a person peal the identifier tape off of the tire first?
Negative, the label has no impact on the balance of the tire. - Van
When you're balancing a rear wheel, do you do it with the cushdrive and sprocket on or off? Or doesn't it matter?
thanks! just replaced a tire which had a nail through tread and sidewall and estimate for balance $30. so I turn to youtube to get the story and bingo! now how do I inspect my own bikes to avoid that hassle?...
Sorry we do not have any state inspections here in MI. That said I am not familiar with any of the inspections some of the states do have. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear you just answered / solved another problem, move to MI- hahaha
i didnt hear it, did you say you use brake cleaner for the rim? if so, what is its benefit over soap and water?
How do you mount the tire with the white dot in relation to the valve stem & core to minimize weights needed?
Standard practice on tires that have a dot is to line it up with the valve stem. With good tires you will not typically see a very big difference in placement IMO. - Van
Also since on motorcycle wheels the brake rotors are attached, the chance of contaminating/dirtying up with residue/film is reduced with brake cleaner. Soap can leave a residue. Brake cleaner(itself) evaporates away clean, while providing a much more powerful surfactant than soap to remove road grime/brake dust.
Wheel weights only go on 1 side of the rim ?
If you need to use a lot of weights you can spread them out to both sides. When you don't need a ton they can all go on the same side. There is no notable effect. - Van
Great video, Great info.. appreciate the tips..
Ive balance stacks of car tyres have you ever found swapping the weights in the same spot to the left or right side make a difference.... id expect track wheels to be in better shape than road wheels obviously smashing bad bumps and potholes will knock the wheel out of shape ?
For sure there are no real potholes on the track like riders will find on the street. That said odds are the wheels would be in better condition. - Van
Do you need to balance quad bike wheels.
do you need to put tape on it? that seems really ghetto
If you are riding on the street you can leave it. Riding on the track you will need to have duct tape over the wheel weights to pass tech. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear I was wondering that too. I dont ride on the track and Ive never seen ductape over the wheelweights
I want to know if it matters what side of the rim you place the weights, I have no experience with balancing wheels on motorbikes but I've seen how they are done on cars and the wheel balancer machine will tell the tech which side of the rim the weights need to be placed. Should the same principle apply?
With a motorcycle wheel, it's common practice to just mount it at the center of the rim, for the light spot that needs the weight. Motorcycle physics characteristics differ from 4 wheel machines in that they use a gyroscopic effect as well as have a changing contact patch based on lean angle that uses a concaved profile unlike the cars flat even contact patch. Also because motorcycle wheels are usually narrower, it matters even less. I'm sure someone much more intelligent can explain it much better and mre scientifically accurate, but I hope that answer helps a little.
Very good video what brand is the static balancer thanks .
Jorge Alberto That is a Handy I believe. In the end they are all pretty similar. We have several on the site. - Van
Muy buenos tus videos, una sugerencia estaría bueno que pusieras la traducción al español
By balancing wheel technique we can find if the rim is bent????
Similar tool, use a truing stand. Will look similar except has added indicators and mount for a warpage spec guage. Same tool used to lace and true spoked wheels
thanks for the video A++. What do you think if you just place the lightest spot of the tire to the heaviest spot of the rim, i heard good results, with that configuration you sometimes don't even need to use weights to balance it out, and if you do it would be with minimum weight attachment, if you would make a quick video showing that method it would be fantastic :)
You can try to match them up, it takes a lot more effort to do that IMO. I suggest using the method we show here. It is quick and gets the result you need. - Van
how heavy was the sticky label.
Richard Wallinger i assume u mean the wheel weights. he added 4 of them which added up to one ounce of weight so they are quarter oz. wheel weights.
+SneakyBastrd59 No, the sticker on the tyre.
+Erelyes I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or serious. Either way, the weight of that sticker is irrelevant. The label sticker on the tire probably weighs in around a few thousandths of an ounce. So the tire would rip itself apart before that little of weight would have any effect on the balance of the wheel spinning.
50 lbs, great question ..... Stay off of anything motorized sir ..... Thank You
Well done, that's half of the procedure. Now how's the dynamic balance on that wheel? For the same reason, why did you add the weights just on the other side of the rim instead of balancing them on both sides?
It's quite clear you're trying to advertise your product and that's okay, but you could at least mention about dynamic balancing to people who don't know anything about physics, before giving them such beliefs about wheel balancing as in this vid.
Lol. Half the procedure? Not everyone has a fancy dynamic balancing machine.
Wrong. If you don't have a wheel balancer and need to do this in an emergency you can use your axle as the rod and use two jack stands as the base and it will get you "close". At least closer than the method you describe. It wont be perfect though as the your wheel bearing have grease and drag, the wheel balancers bearings are very smooth and have a light lubricant in them to impart very little drag.
Need to balance rear tires?
Yes you should balance both the front and rear tires whenever you replace the tires or notice a vibration. - Van
Sportbike Track Gear well replaced rear tire to new. Drove about 100km speed upto 250kmh didnt noticed any vibrations etc.
If you do not feel any vibrations then you are most likely good to go! - Brian Van
Stay off of a motorcycle sir .... Thank you
Awesome ,how do you know which side the weights goes? thanks
Either side works, get it as close to the center point of the wheel as possible is best practice. - Brian Van
In the video it used multiple weights. Is there any benefit to splitting the weights between the 2 sides of the wheel. ie 2 weights on each side instead of 4 weights on the same side. THX
how du you know on wich side you must install the weight, left, right??? this method is not good!
a car balancer is very very much better to balance the tires, it says where, on wich side and how much you must install the weight. sorry for my english
This static type of balancing method works just as well because on motorcycle tires you always put the weight in the center, you don't need weights on multiple sides like a wide wheel on a 4 wheel vehicle, they operte on completely different physics characteristics. Also when the wheel is no longer wanting to roll at any direction, than you know that you added the exact amount of weight needed to the wheels lightest spot, now making it perfectly balancec, or as perfect as you would need to never feel vibration up to the bikes top speed even. Racers, including world Superbike Race team Technicians and engineers even use this method. When done properly this way, it will always be impossible to prove an electronic laser balancer is going to make it any more balanced. At Motorcycle mechanic schools and factory motorcycle dealerships, technicians often balance a wheel this way by hand on a static balancer like this and then put it on the dynamic electronic laser type balancers to make sure the electronic balancer is in spec, it never finds the wheel out of balance or makes any difference.
very2 good...!!!
Ah you forgot where to mount the tyre on the rim...the red zero or black “0” is technically the heaviest part of the tyre and should be located opposite of the valve stem so you don’t need to add a whole bunch of weight unnecessarily. Common miss step....
Usually will balance out without weights “now-a-days”
Michelin does not use the marker on the tire, no need for it with they way they build the tires. - Van
Sportbike Track Gear agree
Is this guy a pro? He shows how NOT to balance - by leaving the label on.
Have you ever been to a professional race and seen the tires changed? Well I have raced there and built bikes that are raced there. All of the labels are left on the tires when they are balanced and they are balanced using the exact same method. If you do not know what you are talking about don't spread your bullshit. - Van
You do realize the label weighs next to nothing right? If you think leaving the label on is going to throw the balance off.. well you must be high
If you balance the rim alone before you mount the tire would there be any avantages.
should ant you take the sticker off??
No need really, just take it easy for a lap, maybe your warm up lap or something and it comes right off. ~Aubrey
No you should ant......geeeezzz
Hey dad
Take the paper tag off.
Paper tag has no measurable impact on the balance. - Van
wish my balance went dat fukn fast. put a good used tire on my 82 goldwing n it took fukn 30min & 4oz total in various locations
Pull that tape off tire bro lol
The labels wear off in the first lap. - Van
SHOULD SPLIT the 4 BY PUTTING 2 ON EACH SIDE of RIM , INSTEAD of 4 ON 1 SIDE 🤨🤔😒
If he put them on the other side it would be out of balance....
Oh wait I get what you meant
@@alstonz5558 👍🙏😎
@@davidson2004fatboy I feel stupid lmao
@@alstonz5558 NO ISSUES Bro. WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES ! TAKES a REAL MAN to ADMIT IT ! 👍🙏😎 YOU JUST DIDN'T READ IT CORRECTLY the FIRST TIME.
is that fucking Brian Van?
In a word yes.
Before you do anything you need to take the label off the tire...EZ.
That label doesn't change a thing. Most of the time I just let the track wear them off in the first lap or two. - Van
I went to harbor freight and saw a tire balancer on clearance similar to yours for $28.97 before tax. Thanks to your video, I know how to use it now! Thank you!
You are welcome and thanks for watching! - Van
Ideally you want the weight as close to the centerline of the rim as possible but I know the cast wheels don't always have a smooth spot in the middle for tape weights. In that case, no, just do as best you can. M/c wheels aren't all that wide to induce an imbalance side to side like car wheels or bigger do. Also for track riders put the weights on the flattest part of the wheel as well if using tape weights. I've had some smear off at high speed due to the centrifugal force on them.
Just a quick one, i was always advised to split the weights so they are equal, in your case 1/2 oz on each side of the rim opposite each other to maintain true balance on both rotation and also side movement.
I will split them if it takes more than six segments typically. End of the day I do not think this will make any notable difference. - Van
If you're sending a machine to Mars, I'd say yes, split the weights.
On my bike, nah, wrap a little solder around a spoke.
I'd peel off that paper tag tho....
All joking aside, this is the best vid I've seen on this topic, and will recommend it to others.
Wouldn't it have been smart to remove the tire label and trim access rubber before balancing?
Sir please stay off of anything with a motor and or wheel's.... Thank you
Yes
@@raydolinger1980 LOL
Ray Dolinger lmao
@@raydolinger1980 lol... Well said
In certain situations maybe.. You can see how far the wheel itself is out of balance, if its not then there is not advantage obviously. If there is you can match the heavy spot of the tire (usually marked with paint dot) directly opposite the heavy spot of the rim to make it easier to balance out (less weights).
Remove the sticker!!
The sticker is negligible. But if you wish you can remove it on street tires. The reason they leave them on race/track tires is because when you yank the sticker off it leaves sticky crap on the rubber, then you throw your tire warmers on, it melts the glue and makes the inside of your warmers a mess.
You're welcome :-)
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Glad I just read this. Thank you!!!
@@selenajackson7395 no
Sir please stay off of anything motorized ........ Thank you and have a nice day :)
@Spacecoastz BUT if you planned to use tire warmer you would RUIN your warmers. He did say it was getting ready for a track day.
What about the back wheel? Balance with or without the sprocket carrier?
Süper master 😇
Thanks for watching! - Van
I bought the Motion Pro Axis balancer. They should have you do the tutorial video on their product. 👍🏾
For sure Motion Pro makes some excellent tools. - Van
Why can't you just put the wheel on the bike( remove brake pads and obviously belt or chain) and just balance off the wheel bearings?
This is the best way to do it, you need to reduce the drag so it can spin freely. - Van
Just curious, why are wheel weights only on one side of the wheel, once you find out how much weight it takes can't you divide that in half and put equal amounts on both sides of the wheel? Why would you want all the weight on one side of the wheel instead of equally distributed on both sides. Thanks for your help if anyone knows.
If it takes a lot of weight then we will split it over the 2 sides. In this case there was so little there is no point as there will be no notable difference. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear Thank you for that info and the video👍
Wow that was easy. I’ll be balancing my own tires from now on, thanks!
No worries, thanks for watching! - Van
What balance stand have you used for your tires?
Nice video man. Now gotta watch one how to mount my own tires and I’ll be set! That’s too easy for me to pay someone $100 each ($200 total) my whole life. I guess tape and the sticker on the wheel doesn’t weigh anything?
The tape will not have any real influence on the balance. - Van
Wouldn't need to do this if tire companies had a higher standard of ensuring rubber was balanced somehow. And that red balancer would be nice if it had some laser to help mark the tire verse "eye-balling" it. Still a great video.
I have been balancing tires like this for years and feel this is more than adequate. Thanks for watching. - Van
Probably a dumb question but what is the purpose of balancing tires ? Is it really necessary say for someone who rides street ? My bike doesn’t have any of those stick on weights on the rim and I’ve been riding fine but I just found out about this.
You will only need to balance the tires when they are replaced on a street bike. This is a good question. - Van
Thank you for the feedback Neigal Cox, the tape stays. Most track day and racing organizations require that you tape over the wheel weights so they do not fall off on the track. All items are available on our website, you should be able to follow the link in the description above. Thanks! ~Aubrey
+Sportbike Track Gear is there any chance these weights can come off (from the front tire) and hit the radiator? what about on the road, should you keep the tape? temporarily ?
NoShadowOfDoubt1 That is a possibility but very unlikely. From a safety stand point I would probably tape the weights, you can never be too careful with things rotating at a high speed ;)
At what speed would you notice things ate amiss supposing you didn't balance correctly?
Depends on how far out. Most likely freeway speeds. - Van
Strange question perhaps? With the chain not attached to the rear sprocket, and the brake disconnected from the rear tire, and the bike on its center stand can this be done on the bike. Is it possible to balance the rear tire on the bike using its own axle. Will it spin freely enough?
That would be a ton of work to balance a tire. Not sure if that would spin freely enough to get a good result. The balancer has its own bearings on top of those in the wheel. - Van
Do you use 5gm wheel weights? My OEMs were 10g's. Current tires have eight 5g tape weights. Seems excessive!!
The weights we are using now are 1/8 oz segments. If the wheel needs more than 4 segments I like to split the total putting half on each side of the wheel. - Van
This is the way we all did it when I was racing in the 90,s and it still works just fine today on my road bikes and dirt bikes ,yes the computer ones do a more accurate job but as long as you follow this vid you will be in the ball park ,good job.
What do u do if u get shit ton of oil on your bran new tires
You could try to clean them off and see where that leaves you. Personally if it is a lot I would replace them before taking the chance. Crashing is expensive. - Van
Thanks for the video, I finally found someone that knows what they are doing. I have watched a ton of balancing videos and you are the first to use reasoning behind the amount of weight to start with. This validates the whole video ( for me anyway). You need to know the reason you do something ( unless you are 5 years old ,and then BECAUSE I SAID SO is enough). Just found your channel,and subscribed. Thanks again.
Thank you for the kind words and for watching! - Van
if the rim does not allow to stick weights right in the center one can split the total weight and stick half on each side
If you need a lot of weight to get the assembly in balance you can split the weights and put half on each side. If it does not require much weight just put them on one side and send it. - Van
Nice and simple. Only one question.. Why don't you remove the big tyre sticker before balancing? It doesn't weight much but it sure does have some effect
I just put on a new front Dunlop q3 on my 09 Gsxr, so from coming you is it highly recommend that I balance the front tire? I got on the free way and got up to about 110 and it shakes not to violently but I can definitely notice the difference I know that should answer my question or could it be something else??
+Jorge Moran Yes you would balance the tire and wheel anytime you replace the tire. - Van
The side you put the weights doesnt matter ? Like it is better on the right or left side ?
If you will need to use 7 wheel weight segments or more I will split them between the two sides. 6 or under just put them on one side. - Van
What happens when we corner without balanced wheel???
Unless the wheel is grossly out of balance you will not notice much difference. That said it is best practice to keep the wheels in balance. - Van
You sir should not be riding a motorcycle....
I wold do this.Can there be a secondary imbalance?
If you balance the tire and wheel as shown here you will be good to go, nothing more needs to be done. - Van
You need to REMOVE your cush drive. You want the cones solidly touching the wheel bearings of the rim to make sure its centered or your balance will be skewed. The cush drives will move and skew your results!
best balancing video out there. thanks for taking the time to film it.
Thank you for watching and for the kind words. - Van
wat about car tire??? can do this of car tire???
This balancer will not work with a car tire. - Van
What's the best way to line up the DOT logo?
For tire brands that have a dot on the sidewall you need to get this as close to the valve stem as possible when you mount the tire. - Van
where can we get one of those handy balance stands
Here is a link to one on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/bikemaster-wheel-balancer/ - Van
Great video for the front. How about the rear? Leave sprocket and cush drives in?
Yes, the closest you can keep the wheel to how it will be when on the bike, the closer and more accurate your balance will be. All of that is fixed to the wheel and adds to rotational mass, so by balancing it with that on, it effectively balances it as a whole.
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Let's go for a ride!
I see you gots them bars!!
though this video is 10yrs ago, it is still very useful for me, thank you for making this video, i am about to get one of the balancer. At 03:48 your weight is about 3in to the right of your marking. Is that the way to do it? And also what weight should i have in stock?
Just order a pack of the Motion Pro Wheel Weights. Here is a link to them on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/motion-pro-steel-wheel-weights/
Make sure the balancer is level too
Good call! - Van
Hello. Did you ever use balancing beads and what were your results? Thank you for a very professional video
Thank you for watching the video. We replace our tires more frequently than street riders, sometimes as much as 4 sets a weekend. For that reason the best solution for us is to use a traditional method of wheel balancing. - Van
You can't use balancing beads in tubed tires
I just use the box of weights, they aren't all that expensive or you could use duct tape. The only one we sell is more than what you are looking to spend but I have heard of people using the Harbor Freight one without issues. ~Aubrey
Still going strong! Great video man💪🏼💪🏼
Thank you for watching! - Van