The reason "Many Saints" was awful is because it's a story told by Christopher Moltisanti -- we already knew he was a bad scriptwriter so the movie stayed true to that fact. Lol
The movie sucked so much. They shouldv shown Tony being made and dickie being the man who made him but in the movie dickie died when Tony was just a kid. We got barely any mafia stuff. Instead they wasted half of the movie on harolds storyline just because woke politics.
If I had to rewrite young Tony and baby Christopher's interaction in the movie, Chrissy wouldn't be scared of Tony and reaches up to grab and squeeze Tonys nose that Tony finds amusing, just to tie in how he ended up ironically killing Christopher that way
The old wives tale I was told: we are born knowing everything but forget shortly after birth. An angel puts a finger to our lips saying, "shhh" sending us on our way to forgetting, leaving a dimple under our noses. Infant Chris knows Tony will kill him but forgets very soon.
I thought Sally Moltisanti was the wisest character in the Sopranos-verse. He went to jail and became a book nerd put the life behind him and used that time behind bars to better himself. But what do I know he’s a murderer
The fact they had ray liotta play him too made the movie even more confusing than it already was, even as someone who already watched the sopranos series as a whole a couple times
A lot of it is fixed by Dickie actually being a drug addict. Better justification for the Italian girl cheating on him, and a better justification for Junior having him popped.
Dunno why he wasn’t I think they wanted to show in fact his addictions were just a rumour but didn’t display that too well could’ve had Harolds gang start the rumour and that in part gets him whacked
They should make him stay being a junkie of some sort. This movie weakens his "legend", just makes him look like a normal made man, can say maybe even a weak soldier, gets killed for nothing, half of his crew got gunned down
@@ultrasx1147 yea that would of been best for Dickie… but I hate the fact that Chase actually made them look like a glorified crew going against Harold and his people smdh
Pure Kino: It's tough nowadays to just put a drama out there in theaters with no streaming service backing. Everything out there now are the comic books. David Chase: You know, Quasimoto predicted all of this
Usually when content creators try to "fix" movies it reads like some nonsense christopher would write. But this is actually really really good and is my new headcanon.
Don't forget about the inconsistencies with the characters' age. Paulie stated to Silvio "I go back to this family to John. Before you even!" And Tony also stated in the Happy Wanderer how Junior used to chase him and Silvio when they were kids. So how is Silvio almost as old as young Paulie in this film? And Tony was a kid during the riots 🤣
I look forward to hearing about your changes. Personally I thought Dickie was going to be a junkie, an addict and became a rat. That would explain Tony's concern for Chris when he went to rehab in season 4. Then a soprano would clip Dickie.
@Ale well it's only Tony who glorifies Dickie. And he wasn't in the Life when Dickie died so he didn't know and likely wasn't told. Or in my theory, just a beginner.
Right! Chris said dickie was a junkie and he’s partly who gave him “the disease”. In the movie all we saw was dickie having a quick sip of vodka😂 It’s like the script was written by someone who watched the show during the initial airing only
The Junior/Dickie dynamic was my favorite part of this re-write. Actually adding layers to their feud makes the ending with Dickie's death so much more fleshed out.
Honestly this version of the movie would be perfect. You gave every character an interesting and fleshed out arc and tied them all together using historical figures and details from the show and the actual Newark riots. I also think “not thinking before acting” is a great central theme for Dickie and could be shown in more details and could even connect to some of Tony’s habits later on. The pace also seems like it would flow nicely and keep the movie building at an entertaining rate to a thrilling climax. Overall amazing work 🙏. I swear this channel makes me wanna drop my current major and study film 😂😂
I like this version 100 times better than the original. The only thing I would change about it is that the two assassination attempts occur at the same time. Seems too coincidental
@@PureKino Lets all just pray that David Chase 5 year WarnerBro's deal is in fact for a multi season Soprano prequel show and he does all the characters in the Soprano verse good ... My biggest want if a series is created is that TERRANCE WINTER is in fact the head writer & producer working along side with Chase ,, if this happens you know for sure it's going to have a great story and writing
Yeah man it was actually a better version then the original there no narrative and flaws but you actually put time into it then chase I would of done the same quick question what year did you make tony 16 cause his birthday is 1959 cause he would of been 16 in 1975 that’s how I would lay it out but it’s all good
Honestly your video made me realize how flawed the movie was. I enjoyed it a lot, but your version is much more cohesive and sensible. You included smarter references to the show than shitty one-liners, while still maintaining the spirit of a new story. Good work as always!
One of my biggest letdowns from the many saints of Newark is that Joey Diaz didn't play fat fucking Jerry Anastasia who used kill Tony at benihana's with all the tabs he picked up ovah the years!
Pure Kino... this is pure gold. Very very well done. I agree with other comments, your improved storyline highlights the issues with "Many Saints" and ties everything together really well. We appreciate the hard work! Thank you.
I was trying to find some constructive criticism, but honestly this is so much more engaging and coherent; I can’t find anything I don’t like. Anthony Imperiale is such a clever figure to use. Not only does he link the varying movie storylines, but characters from the show too, and in a meaningful way. Good job Kino, this might be your best work yet.
Yeah but there's still little focus on Tony Soprano. We wanted to see how TONY rose to the top. In the first season he was already a capo. Show him hustling like Christopher did. Show when he made his bones. It's still so much both versions are lacking when it comes to Tony. I can think of plenty constructive criticism. It's not as perfect as you make it out to be. Oh and it would be perfect if they added the card game Tony (if he didn't have a panic attack) and the guys would have robbed. It would tie in Jackie Jr trying to rob the card game in the series.
@@wadewilson8011 yes what you're suggesting would've most likely been more in line to what we all really wanted fo see but it would've been a whole other movie altogether though. Kino's story suggestions here maintain basically the same time period, main plot points, and characters but creates a much more cohesive, purposeful and all round better story for them.
This movie should’ve just been entirely about Tony and Dickies relationship. Show Tony’s perspective, show dickies perspective then have them come together. And just have it go back and fourth until Dickie gets whacked by uncle junior. Idk why Harold was so prominent in this movie.
Yeah, that was its main flaw. I get wanting to mention the riots, but Harold is a highly useless character, and having him cuck Dickie was just lame and unnecessary.
This is my first time on this channel and honestly, I feel like David Chase should hire you for the series being produced right now. I couldn’t find any flaw in your re-write and it all made SO MUCH MORE SENSE. I feel like I just re-watched The Many Saints of Newark in the way it was supposed to be. Can we just scrap the one that came out and restart with you in the Director’s chair?
This is an absolute masterpiece by you sir. I had my hesitations, especially with you keeping in Harold. However you used him perfectly. Bravo!! This is what this movie should’ve have been!!
It didn’t have Ralph in it, the most insulting omission. they need a good actor to play him, or Deepfake and de-age Joey Pantalone or at least him him overdub the dialogue. that alone would make it worth watching. I HAVE COME TO RECLAIM ROME FOR MY PEOPLE!
The movie was directed by Alan Taylor who wrote some of the best stuff for the show and was co written by Lawrence Konner who also wrote some stuff of first half of show as well. Although I do agree that David Chase really dropped the ball on this one idk how it turned out so bad.
As much as I enjoyed the film, I think your pitch sounds like a much more complete story, as both a standalone crime film and a prequel to The Sopranos. Seriously, great job. One thing from Many Saints I would keep is Giuseppina. Though in this version, she'd be an immigrant who Dickie stumbles upon and tries to put through school as a 'good deed' to ease his consciensce, but eventually begins sleeping with and gets her addicted to heroin, resulting in her overdose that causes Dickie to plummet into depression and guilt near the end of the film.
That would have been thematically so much more satisfying than his saintly acts of coaching kids or whatever. Anything to change her arc into making sense!
The thing I "hated" the most about this movie were the stupid refrences of characters that made no sense whatsoever. Along with the age gaps (Silvio and tony) for example. Also really like this rewrite you did here, I like the politic plot a lot.
@@crispyrabbit3455 i dont get how the king of « OHs » didn’t get one « OH » in throughout the movie there was a great opportunity there when harold insulted him and speaking of which…he does absolutely nothing to harold
Very good fix, you combined the original with the prequel and stuck to history of the riots. You also brought in the addiction aspect of Dickie, which Christopher was so pissed off about at the party at his house. Great fix 👍
I like ur rewrite of this, good structure, balance of the show and new, and a mix historical view points and different characters, which makes it interesting 👍 good work
Bro, I love your movie version. The parallels and the flow of the story, it's clean and straight to the point. I hope someday they remake it just like the version you presented. 10/10 Pal
I think you might've put more work into this than the actual screenwriters, lol. I'd love to see your version as a movie, though I suspect it might be hard to fit all that context into a standard film runtime
I like that in your version there are so many call backs to existing characters; i was really hoping to see that in this movie, even if was just going to be small cameos
In the early seasons it seems like Silvio is much older than Tony/Jackie Sr./Ralphie. And Tony refers to Silvio as "no spring chicken." Says he is getting "strange in his old age"
Then there’s Sil saying “I’ve known you since you were a kid Tone.” Instead of him saying we’ve known each other since we were kids. I always figured Silvio had 5-6 years on Tony
It’s displayed correctly though no? Sil was a balding man in his late 20s I assumed in many saints (cracked up when I saw it never realised sil was bald😂)
@@jeremiahlawson6575 « when we was kids we had our own little crew me, your dad, tony and silvio dante « This was a direct quote from ralphie telling jackie junior about the card game Sil was about two years older than tony
Even as you call it an imperfect version of the movie.. It beats the hell outta what Chase wrote, he's left a thousand holes.. While being way out side the way we'd pictured it playing out from the show.. At least yours puts the parts of the show & movie together!! Well played sir, well played indeed!!
Tony can't be the one to kill Dickie, because in all of the Sopranos we have a large acces to his mind-his memories, his psyche, his dreams, his day to day thoughts. I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't ever recall Dickie, or that he'd never feel guilt and remorse over the killing of his "nephew's" and protege's father
Saints of Newark gets a pass for a couple three reasons- 1 everything covid era released has been garbage 2 it’s sopranos, you are supposed to hate it for a bit 3 *redacted via youtube*
Kino. You should review Dune. Become the HBO reviewer. Theres so much content on HBO just waiting for you to break down and review. The throne is yours
I think we all should have known no matter what story was being told, it was never going to work as long as it was in movie format. What made Sopranos so good was the quiet and ordinary moments and you just don't have time for that in a movie like you do a TV show. The Sopranos had unfocused plot lines but it didn't matter because that wasn't the most important part of the show. But in a movie, what happens is everything.
I would say that was definitely a lottt more solid Kino! It'd be interesting filming the scene where Dickie loses it and starts the riot, I think that would be challenging to film, but is doable. As an important scene you'd have to nail showing the crowd escalation and Dickie's flip from cool wise guy to raging mobster monster. I still feel like Junior should have had more of a specific final trigger in deciding to kill Dickie, than just a laugh after a slip and fall. Definitely something a writer would flesh out. The slip and fall embarrassment to murder of a made man just doesn't work for me as this is. And why wouldn't the crew potentially think it's Harold that got Dickie? Despite what Junior says about Jilly Ruffalo. Also I wish there was at least one touch of the supernatural in this all to really capture the Sopranos spirit. Like the house from Tony's dreams and coma. But all in all a great "How they should have done it"!
I would also add in Johnny going to jail just like it happened in the movie, which would further cement Dickie's relationship with Tony And on the reason Dickie and Joanne get into a fight, which would be him drinking and seeming drunk, in addition to not caring for Chrissie as much. I don't see why Joanne would bring up Tony tho
@@BlazeWill it brought a 3-D perspective to the story. You got what we seen dickie to truly be, the perspective of how people thought of dickie when he was alive, and our perspective based on the things we know that some characters never find the truth about. In the show one rumor destroyed Dickies legacy by allowing Chrissy to think his father was a dope fiend... the same thing that made them think Dickie was an addict, is the same thing that led them to believe Tony was going to therapy to snitch and complain... Livia 😭
This Movie isn’t a “bad” movie, It’s just that we hold The Sopranos to sucha high standard. I still think considering how many “Main Plots” this movie had it’d be better as a mini-series
Not really talked about sopranos fact Jackie Aprile was 44 in 1998 but tony was 39 idk if it's just me but I just think that's a bit far in age to be childhood friends
The one thing I wish we had more details on is Livia whittling Johnny Boy down to a nub. Imagine her screaming him into a panic attack, and when he wakes up she is still screaming at him.
The movie didn’t feel like the show. It was shot with different lenses or filters or something that made the whole thing look like an old time photo or something. It was like another universe
What does black glorification mean? That film's portraiture of Afro-Amer. is glorified compared to the tv show? I'm really asking, not trying to provoke or insult enibody (I'm not from us)
I like how your version puts a lot of the different pieces together, which was missing from the original movie. WhIle I was watching the scene where Dickie is disposing his father's body, I was expecting him to dump him in the middle of the riots and make it look like he had been murdered by the african american protesters, which would then escalate the conflict between them and the italian americans. It could have also added some more depth to the film as it would give the opportunity to explore how Dickie deals with being responsible for escalating a tension between the two groups. At least even a small change such as that could have brought the storylines together a bit more.
I like this, a lot. I'm pretty impressed lol Nice work. I always took the fact that Zelman and Maurice said they renounced violence to mean they advocated violent revolution, like many revolutionary organizations of the time, not that they necessarily used it. But I like this version too 👍 I'd just add too that Anthony Imperiali was a controversial figure even back then and probably no more so than among Italians and Sicilians. At this point (and to some degree still today, like with a lot of my family) Southern Italians and Sicilians didn't/don't consider themselves as "white" (Michael Imperioli even said this in a Talking Sopranos episode and his family was from a totally different area, so this is clearly not uncommon and even less so back then) so "Keep Newark White" wouldn't be much of a rallying call for em. I know most of my family would have opposed him and they wouldn't have been alone. I'm "mixed" Sicilian and black because when my family came over they went south to escape the bs of the City and ended up subject to Jim Crow Laws and lived, worked, and socialized with the kids of former slaves sharecropping til they ran back to NYC and lived in mixed areas of immigrants and southern black folks. This wasn't all that long before this era. It's mad complicated and most people don't seem to really understand it, but I am living proof that Anthony Imperiali types were not the norm and didn't have anything like widespread support. Unfortunately the situation was bad for a lotta our relatives that came over and some chose to sell out their culture to assimilate and in doing so were some of the loudest bigots around to gain acceptance from the "white" majority. But not all did. And sadly the ones that refused to do so get erased more often than not. Also, Zelman is a Jewish civil rights guy, not sure why he'd intern for Imperiali? Or if Imperiali would even have him?
Bruh. During the Newark riots Italians were against the blacks rioting in Newark. Imperioli would definitely fit the narrative in this movie. To say Italians wouldn't be for Imperioli during that time is dumb. Most Italians from that time hated blacks anyways. Stick to slip and fall school kid.
Bravo, Kino! You have weaved your vast knowledge of the original series into a uniquely creative screenplay. Your well-presented story is engaging, and tastefully carries the soul of the Sopranos, as a Prequel I would line up to see.
I thought your version was much better than the movie, but I would also make it so that Dickie and Harold were childhood friends like in the movie, so that there's more emotional weight to their conflict
Not a bad rewrite! I can't think of any specific ideas for this movie, probably because the whole thing felt unnecessary. I would have loved Chase making a prequel film (I really love his movie 'Not Fade Away') but that's not what we got. I don't see how a movie that incorporates a black narrative can relate to The Sopranos, a series that for 7 years lacked a black central character. This movie needed to just be about Tony and Dickie EDIT: I just couldn't buy the the Junior I know never hinted that he killed the father of his nephew's protege whom he interacted with constantly
Junior, in truth, never had the makings of a varsity athlete or the mobster equivalent of a varsity athlete, but he knew the rules well enough to know the consequences for killing a made man without going through proper channels. He can fuck up just about any given situation in the Sopranos/mob universe, but he could still know how to weasel out of trouble because that’s all Junior ever has been. A weasel.
The black side of the story felt more like a Mafia 3 movie than a part of a sopranos movie to me. The whole time, to me it just reminded me of Mafia 3 and felt more like that game than anything. Especially when Harold was working with the Italian mob and it’s clear there’s tension
Wow ten minutes into this video and it’s already ALL BETTER. Damn bro THIS was the movie we needed… htf did Chase wind up with what we got??? This version here seems not just perfect but SO OBVIOUS.
I dont see how Satriale's was mob run in 1967. wasn't there an episode depicting how Johnny Boy took control of the pork store in the 1970s through old man Satriale's gambling debts? Johnny cuts off his finger and later on its said Satiale killed himself.
Bro i dont understand how they let things like this happen i get they are little details but the show itself was built on tiny details that brought the whole thing together i know the show came out 20 years ago but couldn’t the writers at least rewatch the show so there wouldn’t be so many plotholes?
It was a disgrace how they ended the movie with Harold coming out on top over Moltisanti, while The Sopranos theme is playing in the background. Slap in the face
How u gon tell me one TH-camr actually constructed a more coherent narrative with more understandable and satisfying character arcs than the ACTUAL CREATOR OF THE SHOW. My estimation of David Chase as a writer just fuckin’ plummeted.
WOW! You totally fixed it! This would have been great to see and it makes way more sense the way it connects. The only thing I would add is a little more Tony. Great job!
My estimation of Christopher Moltisanti as a baby just fucking plummeted. To cry like a woman !!
Fucking disgrace
Even Cinderella didn't cry.
Lol his coach turned into a pumpkin
That’s why I had to take a disc man and ram it in his mother’s box
Give me break will ya. It’s an emotional time being born an all that.
The reason "Many Saints" was awful is because it's a story told by Christopher Moltisanti -- we already knew he was a bad scriptwriter so the movie stayed true to that fact. Lol
😄😄😄😄 The Scrip, "Rocco: I thought I was daed but i manuged to get the drip"
Loyle😂
Danny baldwin took em to fuckin actin school
Yeah. I'd rather watch Cleaver in it's entirety, than Many Saints again, though
“What’s my arc?”
I am just going to head canon that the whole movie was a dope withdrawl fever dream Christopher had.
@Ricardo Spatafore he had the flu I can vouch for him
The movie sucked so much. They shouldv shown Tony being made and dickie being the man who made him but in the movie dickie died when Tony was just a kid. We got barely any mafia stuff. Instead they wasted half of the movie on harolds storyline just because woke politics.
@@freebee8221 barely any mafia stuff? Did you expect 50 bodys in 2 hours? More than enough violence
@@ChannelVideoTH-cam theres a bit more to mafia than just"bodies".
I did dent
If I had to rewrite young Tony and baby Christopher's interaction in the movie, Chrissy wouldn't be scared of Tony and reaches up to grab and squeeze Tonys nose that Tony finds amusing, just to tie in how he ended up ironically killing Christopher that way
Too on the nose.
@p d lol
@@KMcNally117 perfect comment
The old wives tale I was told: we are born knowing everything but forget shortly after birth. An angel puts a finger to our lips saying, "shhh" sending us on our way to forgetting, leaving a dimple under our noses. Infant Chris knows Tony will kill him but forgets very soon.
@@weldsj8847 thats actually very true. We all choose our own circumstance so before birth
Just when Kino thought he was out.
They pulled him back in!
The most clever comment of all time!!!
Excellent comment lol
I thought Sally Moltisanti was the wisest character in the Sopranos-verse. He went to jail and became a book nerd put the life behind him and used that time behind bars to better himself. But what do I know he’s a murderer
I'm a jazz nut bring me a jazz record haha. Ray playing twins was great. I'd watch a movie of that.
He's still a lot better than most of the characters combined though.
The fact they had ray liotta play him too made the movie even more confusing than it already was, even as someone who already watched the sopranos series as a whole a couple times
@@Brian-er7pyThey had to do the twins thing. Sopranos had 3 sets of twins I believe.
A lot of it is fixed by Dickie actually being a drug addict. Better justification for the Italian girl cheating on him, and a better justification for Junior having him popped.
Idk but my estimation of Junior Soprano as a man just fucking plummeted
Especially works cause the line Junior says in the series "what do you do to your dog when it gets rabies you put it to sleep" (paraphrasing)
Dunno why he wasn’t I think they wanted to show in fact his addictions were just a rumour but didn’t display that too well could’ve had Harolds gang start the rumour and that in part gets him whacked
They should make him stay being a junkie of some sort. This movie weakens his "legend", just makes him look like a normal made man, can say maybe even a weak soldier, gets killed for nothing, half of his crew got gunned down
@@ultrasx1147 yea that would of been best for Dickie… but I hate the fact that Chase actually made them look like a glorified crew going against Harold and his people smdh
David Chase (struggling for ideas): “You gotta help me.”
Pure Kino: “I’ll fuckin’ help you!!!”
😂
I feel like you can say any random sentence in the sopranos and I’d know exactly what it is
“Who told you to do that?!”
Pure Kino: It's tough nowadays to just put a drama out there in theaters with no streaming service backing. Everything out there now are the comic books.
David Chase: You know, Quasimoto predicted all of this
Usually when content creators try to "fix" movies it reads like some nonsense christopher would write. But this is actually really really good and is my new headcanon.
Kino: I must be loyle to the source material
‘I’m doin the dialogue first!’
yo, I was thinking about that when I saw some of the stuff Crissy wrote. I thought about the stuff I write and was like "Is my stuff trash too."
Don't forget about the inconsistencies with the characters' age. Paulie stated to Silvio "I go back to this family to John. Before you even!" And Tony also stated in the Happy Wanderer how Junior used to chase him and Silvio when they were kids. So how is Silvio almost as old as young Paulie in this film? And Tony was a kid during the riots 🤣
Chase can't write for sh!t now these days
Timeline got fucked up
@@gachapinCUEVAListen to him, he knows everything
@@shamdogg😂😂😂💯
@@shamdogg😂
I look forward to hearing about your changes.
Personally I thought Dickie was going to be a junkie, an addict and became a rat. That would explain Tony's concern for Chris when he went to rehab in season 4.
Then a soprano would clip Dickie.
same
@Ale well it's only Tony who glorifies Dickie. And he wasn't in the Life when Dickie died so he didn't know and likely wasn't told. Or in my theory, just a beginner.
@@roguebritgravy1 nah he was like an uncle to him
Right! Chris said dickie was a junkie and he’s partly who gave him “the disease”. In the movie all we saw was dickie having a quick sip of vodka😂 It’s like the script was written by someone who watched the show during the initial airing only
The Junior/Dickie dynamic was my favorite part of this re-write. Actually adding layers to their feud makes the ending with Dickie's death so much more fleshed out.
Honestly this version of the movie would be perfect. You gave every character an interesting and fleshed out arc and tied them all together using historical figures and details from the show and the actual Newark riots. I also think “not thinking before acting” is a great central theme for Dickie and could be shown in more details and could even connect to some of Tony’s habits later on. The pace also seems like it would flow nicely and keep the movie building at an entertaining rate to a thrilling climax. Overall amazing work 🙏. I swear this channel makes me wanna drop my current major and study film 😂😂
Thank you! I actually have no formal film education. Just a lifetime of watch movies and TV lol
I like this version 100 times better than the original. The only thing I would change about it is that the two assassination attempts occur at the same time. Seems too coincidental
@@PureKino Lets all just pray that David Chase 5 year WarnerBro's deal is in fact for a multi season Soprano prequel show and he does all the characters in the Soprano verse good ... My biggest want if a series is created is that TERRANCE WINTER is in fact the head writer & producer working along side with Chase ,, if this happens you know for sure it's going to have a great story and writing
Yeah man it was actually a better version then the original there no narrative and flaws but you actually put time into it then chase
I would of done the same quick question what year did you make tony 16 cause his birthday is 1959 cause he would of been 16 in 1975 that’s how I would lay it out but it’s all good
I literally watch this video then after I watch the sopranos over again
Honestly your video made me realize how flawed the movie was. I enjoyed it a lot, but your version is much more cohesive and sensible. You included smarter references to the show than shitty one-liners, while still maintaining the spirit of a new story. Good work as always!
His version sucked too.
So real
One of my biggest letdowns from the many saints of Newark is that Joey Diaz didn't play fat fucking Jerry Anastasia who used kill Tony at benihana's with all the tabs he picked up ovah the years!
Tremendous
Nor did he ever encourage Harold to "stay black!"
I'm a "Sopranos can do no wrong" kinda guy, but I gotta say, what you're layin' down here is vastly superior...and I'm only on act one!
Kino never had the makings of a varsity writer
Hugh being 15-16 during the end of WW2 some what makes sense. There have been stories of many drafties being younger than 18
Pure Kino... this is pure gold. Very very well done. I agree with other comments, your improved storyline highlights the issues with "Many Saints" and ties everything together really well. We appreciate the hard work! Thank you.
I was trying to find some constructive criticism, but honestly this is so much more engaging and coherent; I can’t find anything I don’t like.
Anthony Imperiale is such a clever figure to use. Not only does he link the varying movie storylines, but characters from the show too, and in a meaningful way.
Good job Kino, this might be your best work yet.
Yeah but there's still little focus on Tony Soprano. We wanted to see how TONY rose to the top. In the first season he was already a capo. Show him hustling like Christopher did. Show when he made his bones. It's still so much both versions are lacking when it comes to Tony. I can think of plenty constructive criticism. It's not as perfect as you make it out to be.
Oh and it would be perfect if they added the card game Tony (if he didn't have a panic attack) and the guys would have robbed. It would tie in Jackie Jr trying to rob the card game in the series.
@@wadewilson8011 yes what you're suggesting would've most likely been more in line to what we all really wanted fo see but it would've been a whole other movie altogether though.
Kino's story suggestions here maintain basically the same time period, main plot points, and characters but creates a much more cohesive, purposeful and all round better story for them.
My estimation of Kino as a man, just fuckin skyrocketed
This movie should’ve just been entirely about Tony and Dickies relationship. Show Tony’s perspective, show dickies perspective then have them come together. And just have it go back and fourth until Dickie gets whacked by uncle junior. Idk why Harold was so prominent in this movie.
It’s virtue signaling
Yeah, that was its main flaw. I get wanting to mention the riots, but Harold is a highly useless character, and having him cuck Dickie was just lame and unnecessary.
@@SSAVAGEEEyeah cause the black mob totally didnt exist
@@SSAVAGEEEeither black people do all the crime or black people do no crime apparently
This is my first time on this channel and honestly, I feel like David Chase should hire you for the series being produced right now. I couldn’t find any flaw in your re-write and it all made SO MUCH MORE SENSE. I feel like I just re-watched The Many Saints of Newark in the way it was supposed to be. Can we just scrap the one that came out and restart with you in the Director’s chair?
His rewrite sucked too.
let's pretend this movie never happened
Especially for how long we had to wait to see it, very disappointing .
Just a series of gags and references done poorly. Would have been better even if fucking little Carmine directed it
Were not making a western here
The Many Saints of Newark, whatever happened there.
Without a doubt THIS is how the film should've gone down. Excellent job.
Just a small critique. You have Harold realizing that Dickie shot his friend like 3 times. Otherwise it was really good.
it's a real tragedy
This is an absolute masterpiece by you sir. I had my hesitations, especially with you keeping in Harold. However you used him perfectly. Bravo!! This is what this movie should’ve have been!!
It didn’t have Ralph in it, the most insulting omission. they need a good actor to play him, or Deepfake and de-age Joey Pantalone or at least him him overdub the dialogue. that alone would make it worth watching. I HAVE COME TO RECLAIM ROME FOR MY PEOPLE!
THEY DIDN’T HAVE FLAT TOPS IN ANCIENT ROME!
@@joanbighorn9778 They didn't have the movie Gladiator IN ANCIENT NEWARK!
@@Adski975 That was the movie Spartacus with the flattops.
Make him the narrator
To me the film feels like the first part of a trilogy! It would have made a much better miniseries actually
This movie makes sense when you realize Chase wrote it. He rode the laurels of other writers in the show.
The movie was directed by Alan Taylor who wrote some of the best stuff for the show and was co written by Lawrence Konner who also wrote some stuff of first half of show as well. Although I do agree that David Chase really dropped the ball on this one idk how it turned out so bad.
As much as I enjoyed the film, I think your pitch sounds like a much more complete story, as both a standalone crime film and a prequel to The Sopranos. Seriously, great job.
One thing from Many Saints I would keep is Giuseppina. Though in this version, she'd be an immigrant who Dickie stumbles upon and tries to put through school as a 'good deed' to ease his consciensce, but eventually begins sleeping with and gets her addicted to heroin, resulting in her overdose that causes Dickie to plummet into depression and guilt near the end of the film.
That would have been thematically so much more satisfying than his saintly acts of coaching kids or whatever. Anything to change her arc into making sense!
The thing I "hated" the most about this movie were the stupid refrences of characters that made no sense whatsoever. Along with the age gaps (Silvio and tony) for example.
Also really like this rewrite you did here, I like the politic plot a lot.
Silvio looked older than Paulie 🤦🏻♂️
@@joemonteirosportsshorts3343 Paulie and Sil should have swapped roles in the movie, as well as ages
@@joemonteirosportsshorts3343 He also acted way too goofy.
@@crispyrabbit3455 i dont get how the king of « OHs » didn’t get one « OH » in throughout the movie there was a great opportunity there when harold insulted him and speaking of which…he does absolutely nothing to harold
Very good fix, you combined the original with the prequel and stuck to history of the riots. You also brought in the addiction aspect of Dickie, which Christopher was so pissed off about at the party at his house. Great fix 👍
we need to get kino on this prequel series.
Chase was injecting some good dope when he wrote the original script. I love this version.
I like ur rewrite of this, good structure, balance of the show and new, and a mix historical view points and different characters, which makes it interesting 👍 good work
This Kino kid is more creative than Spielberg. Great vid bro. U got a new subscriber.
Welcome to the crew!
12:49 is when you had me. Quite impressive the depth you've explored with the characters from the show in a meaningful way!
How much more betrayal can I take
Do you feel like you've been stabbed in the heart?
Bro, I love your movie version. The parallels and the flow of the story, it's clean and straight to the point. I hope someday they remake it just like the version you presented. 10/10 Pal
A thousand times better. You should send this to David Chase.
I'd pay to see your version, honestly! You did some great work here, buddy!!
Not me. It sucked too.
I think you might've put more work into this than the actual screenwriters, lol. I'd love to see your version as a movie, though I suspect it might be hard to fit all that context into a standard film runtime
I thought you were gonna rewrite it into a Richie Aprille origin story 😯😅🤣
We'll save that for the sequel!
Richie Aprille: The Many Jackets of Essex County 😁
@@elgamerico YES YES
Beansie would make a better antagonist than Harold.
I like that in your version there are so many call backs to existing characters; i was really hoping to see that in this movie, even if was just going to be small cameos
In the early seasons it seems like Silvio is much older than Tony/Jackie Sr./Ralphie. And Tony refers to Silvio as "no spring chicken." Says he is getting "strange in his old age"
Then there’s Sil saying “I’ve known you since you were a kid Tone.” Instead of him saying we’ve known each other since we were kids. I always figured Silvio had 5-6 years on Tony
It’s displayed correctly though no? Sil was a balding man in his late 20s I assumed in many saints (cracked up when I saw it never realised sil was bald😂)
@@jeremiahlawson6575 « when we was kids we had our own little crew me, your dad, tony and silvio dante «
This was a direct quote from ralphie telling jackie junior about the card game
Sil was about two years older than tony
Wow someone really should have hired Purekino for this film, extremely well done 👌🏻
Even as you call it an imperfect version of the movie.. It beats the hell outta what Chase wrote, he's left a thousand holes.. While being way out side the way we'd pictured it playing out from the show.. At least yours puts the parts of the show & movie together!! Well played sir, well played indeed!!
Just seeing this video now (2 yrs later) and just going to pretend this was the actual movie!!!
I would also set up the possibility of Eckley, Johnny Boy, and Tony killing Dickie.
Tony can't be the one to kill Dickie, because in all of the Sopranos we have a large acces to his mind-his memories, his psyche, his dreams, his day to day thoughts. I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't ever recall Dickie, or that he'd never feel guilt and remorse over the killing of his "nephew's" and protege's father
When you said "Artie runs" you so should have used the clip from the Christopher Columbus episode lol
This would be so cool! If only it didn’t cost so much to either produce or animate!
In all honesty, I think your version was a pretty good interpretation of the past and future playing together. Well done.
Saints of Newark gets a pass for a couple three reasons-
1 everything covid era released has been garbage
2 it’s sopranos, you are supposed to hate it for a bit
3 *redacted via youtube*
10.51 in and I’m already sold on your version. Silvio pushed me over the edge.
Outstanding analysis. Big congratulations.
Kino. You should review Dune. Become the HBO reviewer. Theres so much content on HBO just waiting for you to break down and review.
The throne is yours
Hell yea. I'd love for him to do a breakdown of The Leftovers.
The Harold subplot was fucking unnecessary and horrible
The movie should have been much longer. Your re-write was spot on.
I would’ve kept the scene where Tony calls Dickie and beats up Jackie cos it fits in
I think we all should have known no matter what story was being told, it was never going to work as long as it was in movie format. What made Sopranos so good was the quiet and ordinary moments and you just don't have time for that in a movie like you do a TV show. The Sopranos had unfocused plot lines but it didn't matter because that wasn't the most important part of the show. But in a movie, what happens is everything.
I would say that was definitely a lottt more solid Kino! It'd be interesting filming the scene where Dickie loses it and starts the riot, I think that would be challenging to film, but is doable. As an important scene you'd have to nail showing the crowd escalation and Dickie's flip from cool wise guy to raging mobster monster.
I still feel like Junior should have had more of a specific final trigger in deciding to kill Dickie, than just a laugh after a slip and fall. Definitely something a writer would flesh out. The slip and fall embarrassment to murder of a made man just doesn't work for me as this is. And why wouldn't the crew potentially think it's Harold that got Dickie? Despite what Junior says about Jilly Ruffalo.
Also I wish there was at least one touch of the supernatural in this all to really capture the Sopranos spirit. Like the house from Tony's dreams and coma. But all in all a great "How they should have done it"!
I would also add in Johnny going to jail just like it happened in the movie, which would further cement Dickie's relationship with Tony
And on the reason Dickie and Joanne get into a fight, which would be him drinking and seeming drunk, in addition to not caring for Chrissie as much. I don't see why Joanne would bring up Tony tho
'this might be a little on the nose'
I see what you did there 😂
I’m sorry but I think the dickie not being a drug addict was one of the stronger choices of the movie
Definitely
tony literally says he only had a problem drinking but a huge problem with it so making him a drug addict is dumb
@@BlazeWill it brought a 3-D perspective to the story. You got what we seen dickie to truly be, the perspective of how people thought of dickie when he was alive, and our perspective based on the things we know that some characters never find the truth about. In the show one rumor destroyed Dickies legacy by allowing Chrissy to think his father was a dope fiend... the same thing that made them think Dickie was an addict, is the same thing that led them to believe Tony was going to therapy to snitch and complain... Livia 😭
This Movie isn’t a “bad” movie, It’s just that we hold The Sopranos to sucha high standard. I still think considering how many “Main Plots” this movie had it’d be better as a mini-series
I still can't believe they didn't show feech get robbed
It’ll be in the sequel
bro really wrote a full length movie to honor the “Christopher” episode
Not really talked about sopranos fact Jackie Aprile was 44 in 1998 but tony was 39 idk if it's just me but I just think that's a bit far in age to be childhood friends
The one thing I wish we had more details on is Livia whittling Johnny Boy down to a nub. Imagine her screaming him into a panic attack, and when he wakes up she is still screaming at him.
Tbh a big change I'd do to the og movie is if silvio wasnt in it and paulie did all the dialogue that silvio did
The movie didn’t feel like the show. It was shot with different lenses or filters or something that made the whole thing look like an old time photo or something. It was like another universe
This movie rewrite captures everything about Sopranos, even the black glorification intentional or not, it's an overlooked part of the show.
How could it be "an overlooked part of the show" that was about Italians.?
That's like Scarface being about Cubans.
What does black glorification mean? That film's portraiture of Afro-Amer. is glorified compared to the tv show? I'm really asking, not trying to provoke or insult enibody (I'm not from us)
alright man silvio was always said to be older than tony, he's like 10 years older than tony
I like how your version puts a lot of the different pieces together, which was missing from the original movie.
WhIle I was watching the scene where Dickie is disposing his father's body, I was expecting him to dump him in the middle of the riots and make it look like he had been murdered by the african american protesters, which would then escalate the conflict between them and the italian americans. It could have also added some more depth to the film as it would give the opportunity to explore how Dickie deals with being responsible for escalating a tension between the two groups. At least even a small change such as that could have brought the storylines together a bit more.
I like this, a lot. I'm pretty impressed lol Nice work.
I always took the fact that Zelman and Maurice said they renounced violence to mean they advocated violent revolution, like many revolutionary organizations of the time, not that they necessarily used it. But I like this version too 👍
I'd just add too that Anthony Imperiali was a controversial figure even back then and probably no more so than among Italians and Sicilians. At this point (and to some degree still today, like with a lot of my family) Southern Italians and Sicilians didn't/don't consider themselves as "white" (Michael Imperioli even said this in a Talking Sopranos episode and his family was from a totally different area, so this is clearly not uncommon and even less so back then) so "Keep Newark White" wouldn't be much of a rallying call for em. I know most of my family would have opposed him and they wouldn't have been alone. I'm "mixed" Sicilian and black because when my family came over they went south to escape the bs of the City and ended up subject to Jim Crow Laws and lived, worked, and socialized with the kids of former slaves sharecropping til they ran back to NYC and lived in mixed areas of immigrants and southern black folks. This wasn't all that long before this era. It's mad complicated and most people don't seem to really understand it, but I am living proof that Anthony Imperiali types were not the norm and didn't have anything like widespread support. Unfortunately the situation was bad for a lotta our relatives that came over and some chose to sell out their culture to assimilate and in doing so were some of the loudest bigots around to gain acceptance from the "white" majority. But not all did. And sadly the ones that refused to do so get erased more often than not.
Also, Zelman is a Jewish civil rights guy, not sure why he'd intern for Imperiali? Or if Imperiali would even have him?
Bruh. During the Newark riots Italians were against the blacks rioting in Newark. Imperioli would definitely fit the narrative in this movie. To say Italians wouldn't be for Imperioli during that time is dumb. Most Italians from that time hated blacks anyways. Stick to slip and fall school kid.
Bravo, Kino!
You have weaved your vast knowledge of the original series into a uniquely creative screenplay.
Your well-presented story is engaging, and tastefully carries the soul of the Sopranos, as a Prequel I would line up to see.
I'm not even halfway into this and this is the film I want to see.
“Haroland and the riots need to be the central part of the film…”
Ok imma head out.
I thought your version was much better than the movie, but I would also make it so that Dickie and Harold were childhood friends like in the movie, so that there's more emotional weight to their conflict
You have made new video again. Thank you!
Not a bad rewrite!
I can't think of any specific ideas for this movie, probably because the whole thing felt unnecessary. I would have loved Chase making a prequel film (I really love his movie 'Not Fade Away') but that's not what we got. I don't see how a movie that incorporates a black narrative can relate to The Sopranos, a series that for 7 years lacked a black central character.
This movie needed to just be about Tony and Dickie
EDIT: I just couldn't buy the the Junior I know never hinted that he killed the father of his nephew's protege whom he interacted with constantly
Junior, in truth, never had the makings of a varsity athlete or the mobster equivalent of a varsity athlete, but he knew the rules well enough to know the consequences for killing a made man without going through proper channels. He can fuck up just about any given situation in the Sopranos/mob universe, but he could still know how to weasel out of trouble because that’s all Junior ever has been. A weasel.
Sounds like you just don't like black people.
@@REDEEMERWOLF lol, where is that from? I forget.
@@avega2792 In the show and the movie it was never clear if Dickie was made though.
@@MrRjh63 Dickie is a captain in the Dimeo family when he is killed. You don’t become captain if you’re not made first.
The black side of the story felt more like a Mafia 3 movie than a part of a sopranos movie to me. The whole time, to me it just reminded me of Mafia 3 and felt more like that game than anything. Especially when Harold was working with the Italian mob and it’s clear there’s tension
There could have been that shit with the Columbians or Old man Baccala being the Terminator but we got Harold and a def jam poetry session.
If I live to be a billion I still won’t have any idea why Frank Lucas was in this movie.
One thing I didn't get was I thought Silvio was supposed to be Tony's age, not 25 pushing 40 in the movie.
Silvio is 9 years older than Tony on the original sopranos show
Wow ten minutes into this video and it’s already ALL BETTER. Damn bro THIS was the movie we needed… htf did Chase wind up with what we got??? This version here seems not just perfect but SO OBVIOUS.
I dont see how Satriale's was mob run in 1967. wasn't there an episode depicting how Johnny Boy took control of the pork store in the 1970s through old man Satriale's gambling debts? Johnny cuts off his finger and later on its said Satiale killed himself.
Idk i think Chase was doped out of his mind… I guess he’ll say “The Many Saints of Newark is Canon”
Bro i dont understand how they let things like this happen i get they are little details but the show itself was built on tiny details that brought the whole thing together i know the show came out 20 years ago but couldn’t the writers at least rewatch the show so there wouldn’t be so many plotholes?
It was a disgrace how they ended the movie with Harold coming out on top over Moltisanti, while The Sopranos theme is playing in the background. Slap in the face
How u gon tell me one TH-camr actually constructed a more coherent narrative with more understandable and satisfying character arcs than the ACTUAL CREATOR OF THE SHOW. My estimation of David Chase as a writer just fuckin’ plummeted.
I can't take the betrayal
WOW! You totally fixed it! This would have been great to see and it makes way more sense the way it connects. The only thing I would add is a little more Tony. Great job!
this movie; i feel like I've stabbed in the heart
Dickie’s shot heard round the world starting the Newark riots is what I call a Gump.
The intro was very similar to the intro to Pet Cemetary (Stephen King). Very allegorical.
if Darth Vader had 5 minutes of screen time then Michael G. got 10 seconds of screen time as Tony
See that's the problem, a movie should have a tight story. But not having a tight story is what made the Sopranos tv show so engaging.
They picked the worst time to make this. How did quid games get made at the same time and not be garbage
Where’s this movie Kino cause this would have been sooo much better!!
It's a revenge fantasy.
Still wondering wtf the Harold story line was for