@@DeludedisMind yes, when I get hooked by kingpin I get mad but i still think that if I played better I could have been fine, thats not the case for Hudson at all, everytime I die to a Hudson it feels totally unfair, I think it would be better if he had a mechanic where he could not shoot his minigun forever, like if every 5 seconds of shooting he has to reload for 1 sec or maybe his minigun overheats if he shoots it for too long and he has to wait for it to cool down.
@@affirazer im a hudson otp, meaning I get a lot of people asking me what counters him. my answer is always "another hudson with better armor, weapons, powers, or teammates....and Jin"
9:44 also something about Hudson for actual new players watching. There are quite a few times where you literally cannot approach a hudson cus of the terrain. In situations like that either just don't fight. Or get around and surround him if possible. If you have a stun or grounding ability that also like insta takes the guy down
then go elsewhere. Hudson stomps every comp (without jin) in 50% of the map and loses elsewhere. force him out of chokes fight him in the open and dont stack as his shots penetrate (for fucking reason idk why). hes still op tho👍
Paz, do you think it's possible to rank up with Elluna? I play Elluna, I'm Master, but now, with a limited squad, I can't kill and I receive 20 points if I win.
It's nice to see more and more Supervive content creators pointing out that Shrike is a skill issue instead of a character issue, instead of feeding the "she's OP" delusion. Also, delete Hudson.
yeah lets just get close to shrive because she has no long distance dash either, will shut ur ass while flying and still deal 2/3 of ur hp in ONE shot. buff her melee dmg but goddamn nerf that bs on high range
didn't have the chance to watch this video earlier but yeah after playing hudson for a bit i can confirm, being overwhelmed with angles does suck a lot lmao
idk why everyone hates on Hudson so much like yea he is annoying but its so easy to counter him. Personally I just hate Oath but I play Joule so.. Overall I feel like the game is balanced fairly well, especially for a Beta.
Bro that hundson tip is BS and you know it lol only way to kill hudson is to stun lock him you cant flank him unless you are on jin end of story. he will get a nerf soon for sure not sure what it will be tho prob wind up on his gun so you cant just toggle it off and back on right away
thats just not true. youre right thats hes op but that is not the reason. Shrike flank, Kp flank or grab (hud slows himself so its free), myth rain of arrows, late game oath wall, and void swap are all ways to get an easy flank. hes op but hes weakness is still getting flanked
@ right right except 90% of the time he can’t be flanked like my guy that’s one of if not the biggest reasons he is as OP as he is rn unless your whole team dives him with CC you just lose there is a reason his pick/WR is as high as it is rn and it’s because his ONLY WEAKNESS is his back and only 1 champ can get to it and unless you run at him with your whole team he just toggles off his right click and turns around
@@The_Geni @The_Geni 1. "champ" aka league player aka ur inherently whiny af. ill absolutely use ad hominem here. 2. any 2 hunters that arent Oath or Elluna can flank him. just walk at him from 2 diff angles and he literally cannot turn fast enough. 3. Void doesnt need to flank, he just kills hudson through the wall. Myth is great into him as she out ranges him and heart piercer is easy to land on the slow target. Joule can use her pull from behind cover and kill before you can ramp up your fire rate again. Jin is Jin. boom thats 4 inherent counters to hudson. 4. he cant just toggle it on and off, it winds down over time meaning his turn rate is slow for a few seconds before during and after shooting. hudson is super broken, but there still a ton of counter play. the game has too many variables for literally anything to not have numerous weaknesses. like fundamentally every hunter, item, power, comp, and strategy has multiple counters
@@PopersIRL right see as you seem to be that stupid and you feel like looking like a clown and think because I used common language that a play league is hilarious Hudson’s own kit yards counter everyone but Jin lol and obv you’ve not played him acting like the super short turn slow when you stop winding it up is a prob So I’ll just let you tell me seeing as you keep saying it everywhere what do you think makes him OP?
delete hudson
@@affirazer Fr. Every single interaction with that character is unfun af
@@DeludedisMind yes, when I get hooked by kingpin I get mad but i still think that if I played better I could have been fine, thats not the case for Hudson at all, everytime I die to a Hudson it feels totally unfair, I think it would be better if he had a mechanic where he could not shoot his minigun forever, like if every 5 seconds of shooting he has to reload for 1 sec or maybe his minigun overheats if he shoots it for too long and he has to wait for it to cool down.
@@affirazer im a hudson otp, meaning I get a lot of people asking me what counters him. my answer is always "another hudson with better armor, weapons, powers, or teammates....and Jin"
@@knop9030 hudson otp here, this would be sick. get rid of the backshot dmg at the cost of a reload mechanic
@@knop9030 Ayy that needs to happen asap. Make it so he has to reload like ghost and every reload stops hudsons M2
"The way to counter Shiv is to play around her bad dagger throws"
Ah yes, I see you have been watching my gameplay
9:44 also something about Hudson for actual new players watching. There are quite a few times where you literally cannot approach a hudson cus of the terrain. In situations like that either just don't fight. Or get around and surround him if possible. If you have a stun or grounding ability that also like insta takes the guy down
yea except most of the time it just not possible to get around him unless you have a jin to start the fight
then go elsewhere. Hudson stomps every comp (without jin) in 50% of the map and loses elsewhere. force him out of chokes fight him in the open and dont stack as his shots penetrate (for fucking reason idk why). hes still op tho👍
Bro really had to put elluna in the thumbnail
LMAOOOO
Paz, do you think it's possible to rank up with Elluna? I play Elluna, I'm Master, but now, with a limited squad, I can't kill and I receive 20 points if I win.
someone who actually give Celeste some credit
It's nice to see more and more Supervive content creators pointing out that Shrike is a skill issue instead of a character issue, instead of feeding the "she's OP" delusion. Also, delete Hudson.
8:07 coordination=solo hudson with rampage
Shrike isnt even a crazy good character but as a shiv player knowing if i miss one dash shot its over makes me so mad LOL absolutely hate her in duos
yeah lets just get close to shrive because she has no long distance dash either, will shut ur ass while flying and still deal 2/3 of ur hp in ONE shot.
buff her melee dmg but goddamn nerf that bs on high range
didn't have the chance to watch this video earlier but yeah after playing hudson for a bit i can confirm, being overwhelmed with angles does suck a lot lmao
idk why everyone hates on Hudson so much like yea he is annoying but its so easy to counter him. Personally I just hate Oath but I play Joule so..
Overall I feel like the game is balanced fairly well, especially for a Beta.
I really want to get efficient with Shiv. They’re so fun, and the movement is nasty.
Game needs serious balancing. Other than that super fun for now
Bro that hundson tip is BS and you know it lol only way to kill hudson is to stun lock him you cant flank him unless you are on jin end of story. he will get a nerf soon for sure not sure what it will be tho prob wind up on his gun so you cant just toggle it off and back on right away
thats just not true. youre right thats hes op but that is not the reason. Shrike flank, Kp flank or grab (hud slows himself so its free), myth rain of arrows, late game oath wall, and void swap are all ways to get an easy flank. hes op but hes weakness is still getting flanked
@ right right except 90% of the time he can’t be flanked like my guy that’s one of if not the biggest reasons he is as OP as he is rn unless your whole team dives him with CC you just lose there is a reason his pick/WR is as high as it is rn and it’s because his ONLY WEAKNESS is his back and only 1 champ can get to it and unless you run at him with your whole team he just toggles off his right click and turns around
@@The_Geni @The_Geni 1. "champ" aka league player aka ur inherently whiny af. ill absolutely use ad hominem here. 2. any 2 hunters that arent Oath or Elluna can flank him. just walk at him from 2 diff angles and he literally cannot turn fast enough. 3. Void doesnt need to flank, he just kills hudson through the wall. Myth is great into him as she out ranges him and heart piercer is easy to land on the slow target. Joule can use her pull from behind cover and kill before you can ramp up your fire rate again. Jin is Jin. boom thats 4 inherent counters to hudson. 4. he cant just toggle it on and off, it winds down over time meaning his turn rate is slow for a few seconds before during and after shooting. hudson is super broken, but there still a ton of counter play. the game has too many variables for literally anything to not have numerous weaknesses. like fundamentally every hunter, item, power, comp, and strategy has multiple counters
@@PopersIRL right see as you seem to be that stupid and you feel like looking like a clown and think because I used common language that a play league is hilarious
Hudson’s own kit yards counter everyone but Jin lol and obv you’ve not played him acting like the super short turn slow when you stop winding it up is a prob
So I’ll just let you tell me seeing as you keep saying it everywhere what do you think makes him OP?
@@PopersIRL oath wall dies in less than a sec lol