I only had the resources to attend one of the canvassing events, but it was honestly a really good experience volunteering; never actually done anything like this before and at least it's encouraged me to be more active politically.
Thanks man that's awesome! You and others like you are probably the reason we have the senate right now considering how close the race was. Thank you so much!
As a fellow Doug, my disappointment in Doug is immeasurable and my day is ruined. He has sullied the good name of dougs everywhere with his communication ineptitude and his scamming of destiny.
I am seeing a pattern! Destiny needs to be cautious on working with people who have "name, preposition, and US State Abbrevation" as their username, lol 🤣!
@@Youboremenow The guy that "helped" Destiny with the canvassing event to get Ossoff and Warnock elected. Turns out he didn't do anything meaningful and was paid 8000 dollars + travel expenses for it because Destiny is far too generous and trusting apparently.
@@ReddoFreddo I get that part :) but who is he in the social media sphere? Or is he just some random guy that hooked up with destiny while he was looking for people to help him? 40 bucks an hour... I mean say what you will about destiny but I bet his editors are the type to ride or die by now if that's how generous he is.
I don't want to harp on this too much but one of the worst things Doug did was not contact any of the 20 media contacts MATHMVMT forwarded him. The lack of local media attention for the last event was partly because of Doug.
it's pretty incredible how bad destiny got taken advantage of here, absolutely brutal. and that christian guy was doing so much work and didn't get paid at first meanwhile the other dude is just printing money
Fuck, Doug took advantage of our boy. This pisses me off. But hopefully it's a lesson learned and Destiny hires some real big guns for the next project. $8k...
The sad thing is the clue was in his username: Doug from Con Artist. We were just hoodwinked into thinking that "CA" was just an innocent reference to a state.
This is "DSP buyer's market for cars" level of naive 🦆 But seriously no matter how many things went wrong, Destiny actually put in the work and the money to improve the country. Great stuff.
@@DavidSmith-wr5sj I don't actually really mind the ads tbh, but I am aware adblocker exists. As someone who adds ads on their videos I don't mind seeing ads on content if its supporting a TH-camr whose content I enjoy.
So he got paid the equivalent of one month of almost a 6 figure salary, and got all his shit comped. And did fuck all. I mean I’m lazy, but I still do shit when I’m paid to.
Christian, Julian, Darian, Doug. The only one who didn't do enough is the one who's name doesn't end in "Ian". You should work with someone called Ian in the future.
Doug has been around in this community and on stream for a while. They discussed politics quite often in the past so I guess that misled Destiny to trust him.
That's what I wanna know too. I bet it's just because he is a friend of a friend though and that he has some sort of background in communication or politics
It's so much more enjoyable listening to Destiny conten where he isn't on edge and screeeeeeching all the time. Excellent drama, great storytelling, good job editor, 9/10
I hesitate to even make a comment like this but, this is one of those scenarios that makes it harder to argue for things like a $15 minimum wage. I still support raising the minimum wage and I think it is something that needs to be done a lot more frequently. But ya, this sorta thing is not all that uncommon. Which is a shame because for every 1 person like Doug, there are 3 or 4 people like Christian, who are doing much more work for much less money. Luckily, Destiny ended up learning the truth about most of this and it sounds like he was able to compensate that guy Christian appropriately.
Unfortunately people like Doug are so common in small town political GOTV and campaign efforts. I worked with so many people exactly like that. It's so pervasive it's like part of the internal culture.
I’m sorry but I remember working 40+ a week and earn $2400. Barely have any personal time and work during Christmas. For someone to earn $8000 and do nothing? That’s crazy.
Well you live and you learn. I'm glad you stepped out there and put in some work. Next time you will be more organized and mayhaps try to reach out to some of these local chapters ahead of time and let them know what you're doing and where. Thanks for the hard work to you and everyone else that showed up
I hope Destiny reads this. No matter where you stand on politics what Destiny did was amazing. So many people have talked about doing something that had tangible impact for ages, and Destiny actually went out there and tried to make it work. I think he did fantastic, but even if he didn't he already did more than 99.999999% of people when he put his money where his mouth was and started his movement. It might mean nothing, but this random person online is proud of you, Destiny.
I did so much cringing listening to this story. As someone who manages roughly 40 people daily in a high demand workplace the thought that someone being compensated 8 grand to do a job they claim to be proficient at and consistently drop the ball due to pure laziness is insane to me and then to make excuses for that. Youd be gone so fast there is no coaching someone like this.
“How Georgia was Sabotaged “ wait but Georgia turned blue in the Senate. “ (roughly) I paid 8k for his services, comped travel and stay and his communication was subpar at best only for most his worked being done on the backend by guy not getting paid or off his scraps.” Wowzers...
Hey Destiny. Been watching you on youtube here for about 2 years now I think. Love your content. Sucks that all this went worse than it ought to have. You were absolutely spot on with the thought of having a point of contact to deal with vendors/contacts. Advise moving forward, you should definitely make an ORG chart then assign duties out as needed. It would/will be nice to outline 'directors'. I.e. director of housing, director of transportation, director of communications, etc. You guys did a good job though. Not great :D but good. Be proud of it man. Cheers to your political future!
Doug sounds like that gamer who's never spoken to anyone outside of the internet. Networking isn't house of cards with people lying/backstabbing each other, its literally just calling and exchanging favors for mutual benefit. He never should've been hired.
Man, I've dealt with a few people with the same pattern of behaviour while organizing small local initiatives in my hometown. Nowhere near as large as your effort so I can't imagine how fucking frustrating this must have felt.
I'm part of the DSA and it's a volunteer dues paying organization. There's downsides to working with volunteers and there was probably some miscommunication or lack of communication, but it sounds like Doug was basically what you'd expect from someone that's just volunteering and he got payed 8k.
Hey, man. I'm sorry your initial foray into political mobilization didn't quite go as expected, but you had some MASSIVE wins in there that you noted, as well! I have no doubt that you significantly impacted the outcome of the Georgia runoffs, and maybe their wins are even due to your events. That really blows that it didn't get the media coverage that it deserved, but I'm grateful for- and inspired by your work!
I've pointed this out in the past and I still stand by it; Destiny is really bad at reading people. So while he may be a good communicator he's far less good at judging other people - and their intent. He's time after time allowing people to get way too to him close and comfortable around him. Now, you can make the argument that the dramas that follow actually help him grow - seeing how he doesnt seem to care much about the drama in itself - but there will probably come a time when this isnt the case anymore. Surely it shouldnt be that hard for him - or the people closest to him - to weed out these shady characters before something happens. Now, Doug may have been one of the less obvious cases but there has been cases where it should have been obvious from day 1 that a character wasnt to be trusted.
The problem is that shady people usually know they are shady and can figure out how to blend into other groups. You throw up a filter, some asshole will find a way past it.
I think he’s actually very hard working and driven and also he’s optimistic, as much as he acts like he isn’t. So he at least expects people to act like and care as much as him, which is not something that should be assumed because he is above average in those respects (at least about some things). The problem is he assumes too much of people, and he wants to assume people are good. It’s a good thing to have, but it’s going to mess him up sometimes.
I'm pretty sure this was him thinking it was much easier than it was and wanted to discredit the work if more left grassroots movements and organizing by showing how easy it is and he fumbled it. Turns out it's kind of difficult.
@@-xphobia What has he said to give you that read of the situation? I only occasionally watch destiny's streams and videos so I can't say I'm super familiar with a lot of stuff he's probably said/done.
@@destiny that's life A lot of hard-work and sometimes watching youtube at the right time at the right place so you get the notification for a video you can comment quickly on.
You put trust in people and sometimes it backfires. Life lesson here. Also destiny said he'd pay him 8k so 1) He obliged to honour that contract even though doug didnt and 2) If you think he has a case to not honour it (and you could make that case and win) the internet backlash from not paying someone for work, and the videos and cancel culture that will follow, isn't worth 8k
I appreciate that you took the time to point out what should be done in this kind of situation from a small business perspective. I dont even care about this drama but i watched the whole thing for that. But i also think you danced around the issue of not holding him accountable. Basically because you were worried about his feelings?
This situation seems so unfortunate and fucked up I'm getting second hand sadness I would straight up cry from the mistake of hiring Doug if I was destiny
$8k for a month of work is extremely generous. I work for my city's local municipality and that is basically what our Line-Workers make. These are the guys that drive around in the bucket truck and repair power lines and utility poles during massive nor' easters. It is widely considered one of the most dangerous jobs in America.... so ya, $8k is pretty solid.
@@backwardthoughts1022 But there are some jobs where you need the person you're paying £8,000 to at least deliver the basics, this was one of those jobs.
I hope he does an event nearer because I’d really like to go to the next event, assuming one even occurs after all of this. I really appreciate a creator who actually understands the importance of local activism and also sees it needs a purpose. Anyway good work in Georgia Destiny!
Without know anything else about Doug or knowing how Destiny found the guy and whether or not he vetted him first but it doesn't sound like he was doing this shit with malicious intent. Seems like he was just way out over his head but probably needed the money.
Quote - I think i pay you for a full time wage, 8000 dollar + hotel 4-5 weeks of work. Man if someone payed me 8000 dollars for 4-5 weeks and payed my hotel i would not sleep until everything is perfect...
i keep trying to think, Have I ever been that unprepared and With that many responsibilities that i couldn't handle? and it's definitely yes, but only in my worst anxiety, wake up at 4am, cold sweat nightmares.
Doug has a long history of political opportunism within and peripheral to DSA. He's known as a political mercenary here in LA. He's an analytics dude who is good with numbers, but has exceptionally weak organizing skills, and has frequently attempted to capitalize off of progressive politics. He saw the rise in progressive political popularity, the financial capacity for Bernie's campaign to raise money. He's an opportunist, and has been ostracized by many in the anti-capitalist political spaces of LA. Also... p sure he's being investigated by the FBI as part of campaign finance/ethics issues.
Though there were seemingly a few bad actors in this event you guys still did a great job and deserve to be proud of what you accomplished. With all the bs hiccups you still managed an amazing canvassing event with very important impact f- doug, love DGG!
I'm not really in the community but I wanted to get involved in this and it was so difficult to find solid information that I ended up going out with a different canvassing group in Georgia
I know very little about this Doug guy and the drama surrounding it, but he sounds exactly like George Costanza when it comes to work and responsibilities
This is my mortal-cringe obsession. Him saying "oh, I have something but it's a little rough, and there's not much there" is such a "I don't have anything" line, I can't.
I'm gonna name my son Destiny and raise him as a lefty just so that one day he can grow old and end up on JLP's show and get told that he has a girl name. Hopefully Jesse hasn't died by then.
@@1999_reborn hopefully Jesse never dies, I feel like destiny would unironically cry if he did die, he's so dumb but it's in such good faith that you can't help but love him, like an uncle.
Doug did everything, believe me. The most out of anyone, ever, frankly. Probably the most since Abraham Lincoln. So many people have come up to me and they say.. You know what they say? They say "Wow. Doug. He's just done everything, it's incredible." And Destiny said it could never be done. They never believed in Doug. But you all believe in Doug because you're smart. And this is only the beginning.
I knew Doug was going to be an issue when they originally linked up on stream to discuss canvassing. They never got on the same page as far as their goals and methodologies. Doug was overly ambitious in his aspirations and what he felt they should work towards achieving. No matter how much Destiny tried to scale Doug's vision back, he kept pressing on all of these bigger ideas. It came off as someone who was trying to stunt and make themselves sound like a political power player running a candidate's presidential campaign. I assumed that would result in Doug trying to do too much and causing a disorganized clusterfuck. To my surprise, he did the complete opposite and worked towards absolutely nothing, causing a disorganized clusterfuck lol. I'm not sure if that was due to a lack of motivation and feeling the delegated tasks were beneath him or if he is just a complete LARPer who's all talk and no action. Either way, he was a toxic person to have on your team and it's ridiculous that he would conduct himself in either manner while being generously paid.
I only had the resources to attend one of the canvassing events, but it was honestly a really good experience volunteering; never actually done anything like this before and at least it's encouraged me to be more active politically.
Thanks man that's awesome! You and others like you are probably the reason we have the senate right now considering how close the race was. Thank you so much!
based, bro
Doing your part in the good fight Pog
It was really wonderful of you to take part in the way that you did, thanks so much for your effort!
Based king
As a fellow Doug, my disappointment in Doug is immeasurable and my day is ruined. He has sullied the good name of dougs everywhere with his communication ineptitude and his scamming of destiny.
Doug from CA and the nostalgia critic, damn I thank god I'm not a Doug
im so glad this showed up
right in my feeeed
Doug seems like he will go far in politics.
It's perfect for him. All talk, no action.
Who is he
@@normalhuman6581 nobody knows
@Spartan
What's his political leaning
@@DivineVTDragon
Centrist? 😂
I am seeing a pattern! Destiny needs to be cautious on working with people who have "name, preposition, and US State Abbrevation" as their username, lol 🤣!
REDACTED from REDACTED?
Steven from NE
TRUE
yessir [REDACTED] from [REDACTED] and now [REDACTED]of[REDACTED]
Same with people with pronouns in their name LUL
Its so unfair to doug that he’s expected to do the job that hes being paid for 🙄
8k a month, who gets out of bed for that?!
It's the exploitative nature of capitalism
@@kevlon_ no but i'm gonna be serios i know you are all joking but 8 k a month is more money then i can imagine.
Destiny out here being a ruthless businessman
That he’s being *overpaid* for
Dougs that guy who doesn’t do anything in the group project.
Who is doug? Just here for the debates
@@Youboremenow The guy that "helped" Destiny with the canvassing event to get Ossoff and Warnock elected. Turns out he didn't do anything meaningful and was paid 8000 dollars + travel expenses for it because Destiny is far too generous and trusting apparently.
@@ReddoFreddo I get that part :) but who is he in the social media sphere? Or is he just some random guy that hooked up with destiny while he was looking for people to help him? 40 bucks an hour... I mean say what you will about destiny but I bet his editors are the type to ride or die by now if that's how generous he is.
Doesn't do anything in the group project but gets paid 8k. Pretty based if you ask me
@@ReddoFreddo Was he the guy that was super excited to work with destiny a few videos back?
This editor is posting videos faster than than the capitol was reclaimed.
LMFAOOOOO
thats not a hard time to beat honestly, it took forever
*queue flight reatcs laugh*
@@Aaronmajowskavitz breh it was like 2 hrs
@@chaseo4557 This is like 4 days after the stream occurred. Is that fast? or do you mean since the last video was posted?
I don't want to harp on this too much but one of the worst things Doug did was not contact any of the 20 media contacts MATHMVMT forwarded him. The lack of local media attention for the last event was partly because of Doug.
Smh this dude dropped the ball so hard
That’s all on Doug, not just part. He shouldn’t get any credit or respect for doing a absolutely nothing.
Doug his own grave.
Hey stupid question but is MATHMVMNT the Andrew Yang voterbase because I can't google the phrase.
@@Thatveganlifestyle yep thats the one
I watched at 2,000x speed and finished the video already
ForsenCD hacker?
I watched it at -100x speed and just finished
Destiny (or his team, idk): *Likes
Me: *Ego up 1000
My friend is an expert in stats and said this speedrun is impossible
I watched at 0.25x speed just finished.
it's pretty incredible how bad destiny got taken advantage of here, absolutely brutal. and that christian guy was doing so much work and didn't get paid at first meanwhile the other dude is just printing money
Kind of weird to me how trusting and charitable destiny is. His personality on stream doesnt give that vibe at all.
@Negopi Lirshar he once bought me dinner after I lost 200$ at a casino. Pretty sure he knew I was sort of broke so that was pretty cool.
@Negopi Lirshar lili said it and if lili says it us comon folks can only believe the wholesome queen.
@@j.rlouis3756 it really show how much of a LARP his persona that he portrays in vegan arguments is.
@@j.rlouis3756 always remember that streamers are often not their full selves on stream ;p. You don't know the content creators you watch.
This is why you always ALWAYS ALWAYS have people sign contracts with clear expectations. Never let go of that much money without something in writing.
the editor was fast with this one, destiny should let them out of the basement.
Nah just throw some more computer parts down the hole
Their wages went to Doug
@@brandonden795 I heard doug edited this video
I think he was allowed 2 mins of sunlight and then back into the hole.
@@brolygvc it cant be it was too fast and efficient to have been done by doug
As Bastiat's editor - I shat myself when Destiny joked about Bastiat being an issue. My lawyer boi can't do wrong
Low-key flexing
'ate commies 'ate neocons love Bastiat. Simple As!!!!
My jaw fell open when he said it, lol. I was like "no way would Bastiat be a bad boy!!!" I was correct.
basediat is a good boi
Fuck, Doug took advantage of our boy. This pisses me off. But hopefully it's a lesson learned and Destiny hires some real big guns for the next project. $8k...
Who is he
@@normalhuman6581 doug from ca
People are acting like this doesn't happen every day.
This happened a while ago... It came at now because he now believes doug is a scammer
@@-xphobia Yeah it happens everyday what's your point? He shouldn't call out lazy/leech behavior?
The sad thing is the clue was in his username: Doug from Con Artist. We were just hoodwinked into thinking that "CA" was just an innocent reference to a state.
Love your stuff man! But I do miss the debates. You keep doing you though! We will always be here !!
Destiny? That sounds like a chad name that had a measurable impact on the important Georgia elections.
And also a girl's namw
Based
That does sound like the name of a real manly man.
@@bulldozer8950 are you from CA?
ALPHA
This is "DSP buyer's market for cars" level of naive 🦆
But seriously no matter how many things went wrong, Destiny actually put in the work and the money to improve the country. Great stuff.
Destiny recouping his 8k loss with all these ad breaks
I hate when people say this but, here it goes, Ad blocker, it can be downloaded onto the task bar in like 20 seconds, no ads.
@@DavidSmith-wr5sj I don't actually really mind the ads tbh, but I am aware adblocker exists. As someone who adds ads on their videos I don't mind seeing ads on content if its supporting a TH-camr whose content I enjoy.
@@thebeardsolution Well shit, more power to ya then doing the right thing, my bad man!
8k small potatoes
I'm happy you're trying to position into a more active roll. Despite the setbacks you did a great job be proud my G
@Negopi Lirshar Gangster
@Negopi Lirshar Gnome
I think that's what you would call a 'career limiting move' by doug
13:23 is when he starts talking
Bless you. Beginning was cringe.
Hey guys it’s scarce here-
So he got paid the equivalent of one month of almost a 6 figure salary, and got all his shit comped. And did fuck all. I mean I’m lazy, but I still do shit when I’m paid to.
Ikr, I'm lazy as fuck if I'm not being paid, but as soon as my wallet starts getting fed well, I'm on it like a hawk.
@@italianwaffle5592 looking for employment *nudge nudge destiny nudge nudge*
Christian, Julian, Darian, Doug. The only one who didn't do enough is the one who's name doesn't end in "Ian". You should work with someone called Ian in the future.
Steveian
Ian Miles Cheong?
tbf, I have never met an Ian who wasn't productive so
I think the 22 missed media contacts maybe the worst part of this close with the financials... holy yikes Doug
Yeah I thought media was just not interested, but holy shit 22 missed contacts is quite a lot.
imagine now after the fallout he reaches out to media for some sort of stunt... :D
It would’ve been a big coverage... Doug can get fucked
Destiny? That's a videogame's name!
a woman videogame's name
@@GhostMishoPlayz BEYTA
@Burton family vlogs 123 what a weird thing to say
A stripper woman video game name 😠
Ah, another banger by Riot Destiny.
Plz Daddy Destiny Heart my comment.
*daddy editor/admin/youtube-guy
My day has been made. :) Thank you.
P.S. The editing lately has been *chef kiss*
Notice me senpai!
Is this a kassadin reference?
Where did Destiny find Doug and what were his credentials? Why did destiny believe he was worthy of trusting with this from the outset?
Doug has been around in this community and on stream for a while. They discussed politics quite often in the past so I guess that misled Destiny to trust him.
That's what I wanna know too. I bet it's just because he is a friend of a friend though and that he has some sort of background in communication or politics
Damn it hurts to hear that you bled money for someone who didn't even give a fuck. Despite that, you still did some genuinely amazing work
I wonder if Steven woulda been more pissed if the dems lost georgia by a very small margin :E
@@Fearcely yikes thats a hot take
It's so much more enjoyable listening to Destiny conten where he isn't on edge and screeeeeeching all the time. Excellent drama, great storytelling, good job editor, 9/10
The thing is that this isn't even that uncommon. A lot of people don't work at all but they go unnoticed.
I hesitate to even make a comment like this but, this is one of those scenarios that makes it harder to argue for things like a $15 minimum wage. I still support raising the minimum wage and I think it is something that needs to be done a lot more frequently.
But ya, this sorta thing is not all that uncommon. Which is a shame because for every 1 person like Doug, there are 3 or 4 people like Christian, who are doing much more work for much less money. Luckily, Destiny ended up learning the truth about most of this and it sounds like he was able to compensate that guy Christian appropriately.
I normally play videos at 1.50x but with Destiny I play at 1.25x
Unfortunately people like Doug are so common in small town political GOTV and campaign efforts. I worked with so many people exactly like that. It's so pervasive it's like part of the internal culture.
I'm glad someone else said it. Lots of good people, but lots of clout chasers that shirk blame and can't organize and communicate for shit.
the energy/synergy between dan and mouton is just magical
I’m sorry but I remember working 40+ a week and earn $2400. Barely have any personal time and work during Christmas. For someone to earn $8000 and do nothing? That’s crazy.
Imagine getting paid 8k for a month of work and doing everything wrong, like holy shit
Doug definitely knew what he was doing
He didn't do anything wrong. How can you do anything wrong when you didn't do anything in the first place?
“Doing everything wrong” bold of you to assume he did anything at all
Communists SMH.
Well you live and you learn. I'm glad you stepped out there and put in some work. Next time you will be more organized and mayhaps try to reach out to some of these local chapters ahead of time and let them know what you're doing and where. Thanks for the hard work to you and everyone else that showed up
I hope Destiny reads this. No matter where you stand on politics what Destiny did was amazing. So many people have talked about doing something that had tangible impact for ages, and Destiny actually went out there and tried to make it work. I think he did fantastic, but even if he didn't he already did more than 99.999999% of people when he put his money where his mouth was and started his movement. It might mean nothing, but this random person online is proud of you, Destiny.
Doug’s real job was managing the ballet dumps
I did so much cringing listening to this story. As someone who manages roughly 40 people daily in a high demand workplace the thought that someone being compensated 8 grand to do a job they claim to be proficient at and consistently drop the ball due to pure laziness is insane to me and then to make excuses for that. Youd be gone so fast there is no coaching someone like this.
8k for a month of work?
Bruh. You hiring? I'll be the most git er done mfer out there.
“How Georgia was Sabotaged “ wait but Georgia turned blue in the Senate.
“ (roughly) I paid 8k for his services, comped travel and stay and his communication was subpar at best only for most his worked being done on the backend by guy not getting paid or off his scraps.”
Wowzers...
Hey Destiny. Been watching you on youtube here for about 2 years now I think. Love your content. Sucks that all this went worse than it ought to have. You were absolutely spot on with the thought of having a point of contact to deal with vendors/contacts.
Advise moving forward, you should definitely make an ORG chart then assign duties out as needed. It would/will be nice to outline 'directors'. I.e. director of housing, director of transportation, director of communications, etc. You guys did a good job though. Not great :D but good. Be proud of it man. Cheers to your political future!
"Deliverables mean nothing without dates".
- Life-coach stripper Destiny.
Fuck it, I'll cry over the 8 grand
That quote is from Lycan actually. He is good friends with Doug before finding out.
@@destiny Blink twice if Steven has you locked in a basement editing videos while chained to the ground.
@@destiny nvm you can't blink through youtube comments rip
@@1999_reborn *blink*
@@destiny q
respect for the editor
dare i say it
this is the most active editor on youtube
Doug sounds like that gamer who's never spoken to anyone outside of the internet. Networking isn't house of cards with people lying/backstabbing each other, its literally just calling and exchanging favors for mutual benefit. He never should've been hired.
Lmao when he said Bastiat he totally got me
Man, I've dealt with a few people with the same pattern of behaviour while organizing small local initiatives in my hometown. Nowhere near as large as your effort so I can't imagine how fucking frustrating this must have felt.
wait wasn't Doug the one saying 'AOC playing Among US for 2 hours was a waste of time'?
@Benito Thambiraj yes
I ain't subscribed but still every video shows up...
Right in my feeed
Wow never been this early to the party, love you man, keep up the good work 👍
I’ve been visited by destiny my life is complete now 😭😂
FirstNamefromStateAbbreviation tends to have problems with Destiny.
I'm part of the DSA and it's a volunteer dues paying organization. There's downsides to working with volunteers and there was probably some miscommunication or lack of communication, but it sounds like Doug was basically what you'd expect from someone that's just volunteering and he got payed 8k.
Hey, man. I'm sorry your initial foray into political mobilization didn't quite go as expected, but you had some MASSIVE wins in there that you noted, as well! I have no doubt that you significantly impacted the outcome of the Georgia runoffs, and maybe their wins are even due to your events. That really blows that it didn't get the media coverage that it deserved, but I'm grateful for- and inspired by your work!
I've pointed this out in the past and I still stand by it; Destiny is really bad at reading people. So while he may be a good communicator he's far less good at judging other people - and their intent. He's time after time allowing people to get way too to him close and comfortable around him. Now, you can make the argument that the dramas that follow actually help him grow - seeing how he doesnt seem to care much about the drama in itself - but there will probably come a time when this isnt the case anymore. Surely it shouldnt be that hard for him - or the people closest to him - to weed out these shady characters before something happens. Now, Doug may have been one of the less obvious cases but there has been cases where it should have been obvious from day 1 that a character wasnt to be trusted.
The problem is that shady people usually know they are shady and can figure out how to blend into other groups. You throw up a filter, some asshole will find a way past it.
Destiny needs to listen to Dan’s input considering his BS meter went off about Doug.
I think he’s actually very hard working and driven and also he’s optimistic, as much as he acts like he isn’t. So he at least expects people to act like and care as much as him, which is not something that should be assumed because he is above average in those respects (at least about some things). The problem is he assumes too much of people, and he wants to assume people are good. It’s a good thing to have, but it’s going to mess him up sometimes.
I'm pretty sure this was him thinking it was much easier than it was and wanted to discredit the work if more left grassroots movements and organizing by showing how easy it is and he fumbled it. Turns out it's kind of difficult.
@@-xphobia What has he said to give you that read of the situation? I only occasionally watch destiny's streams and videos so I can't say I'm super familiar with a lot of stuff he's probably said/done.
Okay now that i'm first
Happy 2021 everyone
Woah. You actually did it. Mad lad
@@Deathsinger99 thanks
you got lucky
@@destiny that's life
A lot of hard-work and sometimes watching youtube at the right time at the right place so you get the notification for a video you can comment quickly on.
Destiny? Sounds like someone who wasted 8k
Sounds like somebody who could waste $8k and it doesn't break him
@@SISTEMAQ pretty sure they're just saying destiny has the privilege of blowing away 8k so you don't have to feel sorry for him
You put trust in people and sometimes it backfires. Life lesson here. Also destiny said he'd pay him 8k so 1) He obliged to honour that contract even though doug didnt and 2) If you think he has a case to not honour it (and you could make that case and win) the internet backlash from not paying someone for work, and the videos and cancel culture that will follow, isn't worth 8k
@Lunatic41521 I think they're trying to say that Black Sheep Nomad is sucking Destiny's cock lol
@@AerisNotAerith People can have privilege and you can still feel sorry for them.
Saw in chat: "8k/10 drama"
More dramastiny this soon?
Let’s goooo!
I appreciate that you took the time to point out what should be done in this kind of situation from a small business perspective. I dont even care about this drama but i watched the whole thing for that. But i also think you danced around the issue of not holding him accountable. Basically because you were worried about his feelings?
Doug couldn't even clout chase properly.
Dougof8K
Doug Pilled
8k Doug
Doug into destiny's pockets
This situation seems so unfortunate and fucked up I'm getting second hand sadness I would straight up cry from the mistake of hiring Doug if I was destiny
damn second hand sadness is a first but definitely a great way to describe this situation
I might have come, but I literally had COVID. So I probably would not have been a welcome presence
Good thing you didn't.
that’s quite responsible of you
$8k for a month of work is extremely generous. I work for my city's local municipality and that is basically what our Line-Workers make. These are the guys that drive around in the bucket truck and repair power lines and utility poles during massive nor' easters. It is widely considered one of the most dangerous jobs in America.... so ya, $8k is pretty solid.
If Doug is bad at his job, why does he have a job?
It's politics, being bad at your job is part of your job.
Checkmate capitalists
are u 10? most jobs and the ppl working them are bs
@@backwardthoughts1022 But there are some jobs where you need the person you're paying £8,000 to at least deliver the basics, this was one of those jobs.
Its so sad to see that things didn't go as well as they could've, all because of a single person serving as a barrier
Growing pains. Next event will be even better and smoother.
Right in my feeeed
Anyone got a time stamp for when Destiny gets destroyed to tears
I hope he does an event nearer because I’d really like to go to the next event, assuming one even occurs after all of this. I really appreciate a creator who actually understands the importance of local activism and also sees it needs a purpose. Anyway good work in Georgia Destiny!
Without know anything else about Doug or knowing how Destiny found the guy and whether or not he vetted him first but it doesn't sound like he was doing this shit with malicious intent. Seems like he was just way out over his head but probably needed the money.
Real virtue goes unnoticed
Massive props to Destiny and those who volunteered for canvassing
whatever, I disliked Doug from the second I first heard him on stream
never trust ppl with fat round faces they're typically dishonest
Quote - I think i pay you for a full time wage, 8000 dollar + hotel 4-5 weeks of work. Man if someone payed me 8000 dollars for 4-5 weeks and payed my hotel i would not sleep until everything is perfect...
Doug of 7.5K pepelaugh
Imagine how many people would come out if it wasn't a freaking global pandemic
I certainly would have been there. I was even in the Discord, just never went due to Covid.
Hey Doug YOU'RE FIRED
destiny won Georgia
i keep trying to think, Have I ever been that unprepared and With that many responsibilities that i couldn't handle? and it's definitely yes, but only in my worst anxiety, wake up at 4am, cold sweat nightmares.
The greatest conman after Donald Trump.
Doug has a long history of political opportunism within and peripheral to DSA. He's known as a political mercenary here in LA. He's an analytics dude who is good with numbers, but has exceptionally weak organizing skills, and has frequently attempted to capitalize off of progressive politics. He saw the rise in progressive political popularity, the financial capacity for Bernie's campaign to raise money. He's an opportunist, and has been ostracized by many in the anti-capitalist political spaces of LA. Also... p sure he's being investigated by the FBI as part of campaign finance/ethics issues.
Interesting fan fiction
Origin story pepega.
Source
This happened a while ago... It came at now because he now believes doug is a scammer
When he Said Bastiat my heart dropped for a second
I didn't know people were flying in
Though there were seemingly a few bad actors in this event you guys still did a great job and deserve to be proud of what you accomplished. With all the bs hiccups you still managed an amazing canvassing event with very important impact f- doug, love DGG!
I'm not really in the community but I wanted to get involved in this and it was so difficult to find solid information that I ended up going out with a different canvassing group in Georgia
I know very little about this Doug guy and the drama surrounding it, but he sounds exactly like George Costanza when it comes to work and responsibilities
YOU FORGOT THE HOT CHOCOLATE DAMN IT.
This is my mortal-cringe obsession. Him saying "oh, I have something but it's a little rough, and there's not much there" is such a "I don't have anything" line, I can't.
Obligated to say destiny is a girl’s name.
I'm gonna name my son Destiny and raise him as a lefty just so that one day he can grow old and end up on JLP's show and get told that he has a girl name. Hopefully Jesse hasn't died by then.
@@1999_reborn hopefully Jesse never dies, I feel like destiny would unironically cry if he did die, he's so dumb but it's in such good faith that you can't help but love him, like an uncle.
AMAZIN!
Doug did everything, believe me. The most out of anyone, ever, frankly. Probably the most since Abraham Lincoln. So many people have come up to me and they say.. You know what they say? They say "Wow. Doug. He's just done everything, it's incredible." And Destiny said it could never be done. They never believed in Doug. But you all believe in Doug because you're smart. And this is only the beginning.
I got one phone call for a location that I hadn't even signed up for, and I got zero emails.
All my homies hate Doug
I don't know who any of these people are or any of the situations but I watched this entire video lol...good drama
I knew Doug was going to be an issue when they originally linked up on stream to discuss canvassing. They never got on the same page as far as their goals and methodologies. Doug was overly ambitious in his aspirations and what he felt they should work towards achieving. No matter how much Destiny tried to scale Doug's vision back, he kept pressing on all of these bigger ideas. It came off as someone who was trying to stunt and make themselves sound like a political power player running a candidate's presidential campaign.
I assumed that would result in Doug trying to do too much and causing a disorganized clusterfuck. To my surprise, he did the complete opposite and worked towards absolutely nothing, causing a disorganized clusterfuck lol. I'm not sure if that was due to a lack of motivation and feeling the delegated tasks were beneath him or if he is just a complete LARPer who's all talk and no action. Either way, he was a toxic person to have on your team and it's ridiculous that he would conduct himself in either manner while being generously paid.
Cant even setup Salesforce LOLW
That cliffhanger at the beginning tho...