Another large wind project that just broke ground is TransWest Express Transmission Project which is a 732 mile combination of HVDC and HVAC to bring wind energy from Wyoming to Nevada, Arizona, and California.
I dont mind if my country comes to the party late, as long as they get there! Im proud of each new large installation of wind or solar and hope we will not stop!
The U.S. could lead the world in new nuclear if not for the Nuclear Regulatory Commission and its death grip on the throat of nuclear. One day, when climate catastrophe is taking humanity down the drain, a serious attempt at nuclear will be unavoidable, and mankind will exclaim collectively, WTF, why didn't we solve this problem with clean safe energy dense nuclear sooner. We've had it for over half a century, and have 25 billion years worth of Uranium.
The massive increases in Germany's energy cost is due to the USA selling Germany LNG after getting Russian sanctions to stop selling Germany cheap gas. As an Americans, I think we owe Germany an apology.@@robertfonovic3551
Maybe when your property becomes worthless due to drought or flooding, you will realize those high tension towers didn't look so bad after all.@@phillipbanes5484
News alert posted 3 hours ago! "GE Vernova Announces 2.4 GW Order for Pattern Energy's SunZia Wind Project" So Vestas is not the only turbine company participating. Nice to se GE getting some orders!
Your optimism is refreshing. Unfortunately, all that funding seems to be sucked up by opportunists and bureaucracy with much of burden shouldered by the middle class like me.
Your optimism for the energy present used to make me wonder if you really understood the daunting task that for my entire life fighting for renewable energy and electric cars was in front of me. However, your optimism wasn't based on the future yet unseen, but a real optimism based on what is happening very fast right now. I'm totally infected with your optimism now. What I've been fighting for is coming to pass. I want to thank those who are making it happen, but instead I'll just thank the messenger. Thanks Sam. You have made me happy for the energy transition that I can easily see now is here.
Ironic that this project is in New Mexico where Tesla and other EV makers with online sales are not allowed sales outlets or service centers without a traditional dealership. Any such Tesla outlets are all on Native American land, outside of State reach.
Not outside States' reach. (US gets to judge cases it's party to, so, like Lavar Ball, they #NeverLost.) Like with casinos, States allow it... for a cut of the $.
@@pin65371As Finland is close to Russia, a nuclear power plant must stand a nuclear bomb! When talking about 20 years, we use the expertise that is available in Europe/EU, and build according to European standards. Other countries follow other standards. My brother actually lives in the small municipality where the new Finnish nuclear power reactor has been built.
@@leiflillandt1488 there would be more expertise if they built more nuclear power plants. Its sorta difficult when they go decades without building them. I work in the trades and work on multi billion dollar infrastructure projects so that is my experience.
Sam. 3500 Megawatt is 3.5 Gigawatt. In Nederland we have Completed last Year 2023 4.7 Gigawatt North Sea Wind. In Time on Budget. This month a Tender for 4.5 Gigawatt in Nederland North Sea Wind Power. Ready in 2028, no Subsidie, in Time on Budget. 10 Gigawatt Offshore Windpower. More Tenders on the go for 20 Gigawatt Offshore Windpower in Nederland. Find facts on the Net.
Tesla's Megapack business is booming. The factory in Lathrop, Calif is ramping up to capacity of 10k Megapacks/year, another such factory just started construction in Shanghai. Backlog is about two years last I heard.
One of the most powerful forces in the world is economics and wind energy turns out to be much cheaper than traditional. Add to it the savings in reduced losses from long distance transmission and large scale adoption was bound to happen.
"Solar Wind Energy Tower" San Luis Arizona - $1B They never built the prototype. Somebody must have bought it out Destroyed it. How come nobody or you ever mentions it or probably doesn't even know about it.
In Colorado we currently have 70mph winds and snow. All the wind towers are shut down so they don't break. Have to admit I absolutely hate those hundreds of turbines and red blinking lights at night. They really destroy the sunrise. 3 or 4 days ago one of them caught on fire. I think they ought to switch to the horizontal turbines near the ground. I'd be curious how those might work out.
They need to buy better wind turbines! Here in the UK our turbines work fine in snowy Scotland. They even work fine in the North sea, with all the waves and salt water spray. It sounds to me like they bought turbines with no internal heating elements and now their regretting it
@@billw6903 There's actually a solution for that. The wind turbine companies are looking to put radars on them, which would activate the lights only when an aircraft is nearby. Personally I think their needs to be state regulations to force them to implement that (consider starting a petition in your jurisdiction about it).
World is spending so much money for renewable energies. Instead, we should send a couple of space shuttles with ability to thickening that Ozone layer cheaply. That will prevent thinning of the Ozone layer up there !
Despite this huge investment (if it is delivered on budget - big if) this scheme (if U.S. energy information administration is to be believed) will only provide about 2% of Arizona’s electricity demand and is guaranteed to put up electricity cost. To get rid of their gas fired power plants they will need 20 more project this size.
Hey Sam, I believe we can turn all our AC units into carbon capture devices, collecting CO2 while we cool our homes. The captured C02 could be picked up with our weekly trash pickup and then turned back into fuel and useful items. I don't know why this on one has looked into this?
Any links? I assume the major issue is energy efficiency. Current direct air capture systems have efficiency of < 1%. Put in 100 units of energy equivalent of burning pure carbon. You only get less then 1 units out from the air. It makes no sense unless you run the entire AC from pure renewable sources. But it's likely more efficient just selling the power you generated back to the grid so we use less coal and gas. (Efficiency can't get higher then 100% due to laws of thermodynamics)
I hope that those building this are smart enough not to build on land belonging to native American tribes so that this project doesn't have to be bulldozed like the 300 wind turbines illegally built without permission on land belonging to the Osage tribe in Oklahoma.
Wind is really bad, you don’t have electricity when there is no wind. In Sweden we have lots of windpower, and the price hikes it 3 dollars per kilowatthour
Now keep it coming! More of these are needed on this scale... SMR's will work in theory but they'll take way to long to be economical or practical when battery storage and renewables combined will do it cheaper, faster and greener!
This is good news because we desperately need high power transmission lines to transmit electricity from wind farms to big cities. However, I wish these high voltage HVDC lines could be buried. Even though burying lines cost more, it can reduce the maintenance because the buried power lines are protected from the weather. Buried power lines could run next to interstates and make them easily assessable if necessary. The blight from ugly power lines traveling thousands of miles can be greatly reduced by burying as much of the power lines as possible.
To bury these lines would require DC instead of AC power transmission. Possible in the lab, not yet in practice. Much research is currently going to this.
Has Americans ever thought about consuming less to reduce environmental damage? All these new green tech is also consuming lots of resources and can only slow down so much if all the government is pushing for more and more gdp growth
Really annoying when Sam Evans says that SunZia will have 242 of the biggest wind turbines in the world. Pattern Energy's SunZia project will use 242 Vestas V163-4.5MW turbines to build 1.1GW in wind farms. Those aren't even close to the largest wind turbines, nor the most efficient. The largest installed offshore wind turbine is currently the MySE 16.0-260 and the largest onshore one is an 8.5MW Goldwind turbine at Changyi Wind Farm. The largest planned onshore turbine is the Goldwind GWH24X-12.X which is 12MW and the largest planned offshore turbine is the Mingyang MySE 22MW with a 310 meter rotor. The V163-4.5 is puny compared to these turbines.
The United States extracted more oil and gas than ever before in 2023, a year that was the hottest ever recorded. The US’s status as the world’s leading oil and gas producer strengthened in the year 2023. The latest federal government data shows a record 12M barrels of crude oil per day was extracted in 2023, more than double what was produced a decade ago. Japan builds nuclear plants in 39 months; the Nuclear Regulatory Commission is killing nuclear in the U.S., and has for decades, despite it being the cleanest, safest, most energy dense, and most reliable form of energy generation.
What is the estimated return on investment to this project? ROI not the Environment will definitely decide the future on renewables. How much storage is being assigned to this project? Storage and the associated arbitrage profit will make the investors very happy. Is this just expansion to the grid or are any "Peaker" plants being shut down?
ok so what goes into making a wind turbine, the transmission lines, the machinery to mine and extract the minerals and the oils to build them? this isnt including the machinery and i qoute this from an environmental page 'A 5-MW turbine has three roughly 60-meter-long airfoils, each weighing about 15 metric tons. They have light balsa or foam cores and outer laminations made mostly from glass-fiber-reinforced epoxy or polyester resins. The glass is made by melting silicon dioxide and other mineral oxides in furnaces fired by natural gas. The resins begin with ethylene derived from light hydrocarbons, most commonly the products of naphtha cracking, liquefied petroleum gas, or the ethane in natural gas. The final fiber-reinforced composite embodies on the order of 170 GJ/t. Therefore, to get 2.5 TW of installed wind power by 2030, we would need an aggregate rotor mass of about 23 million metric tons, incorporating the equivalent of about 90 million metric tons of crude oil. And when all is in place, the entire structure must be waterproofed with resins whose synthesis starts with ethylene. Another required oil product is lubricant, for the turbine gearboxes, which has to be changed periodically during the machine’s two-decade lifetime' why do you think oil companies are 'heaviliy investing' in renewable energy? is it clean? i will leave that for you to decide
Have you computed how much electrical energy will be generated by those turbines over their lifespans? You should. Then look at how much coal/gas it would take to produce that much energy. Then ask yourself again if it’s a worthwhile investment.
Nevermind, I’ll do some math for you. 2.5TW of installed wind power, at a 33% capacity factor, would produce about 7 trillion megawatt-hours of energy per year. By way of contrast, 90 million tons of oil contains about a billion megawatt-hours of energy. So the oil you’re concerned about? That many wind turbines would replace seven thousand times as much energy as that oil contains - each year. For what, 25 years? So over their lives, the oil used to make those blades would lead to around 175,000 times more energy produced than is contained in the oil.
@@davestagner by the time you factor into the replacement costs of the blades and gearboxes every 10years along with grease etc and production of new parts wind turbines will surpass the usage of oil for energy generation .... But you continue with your dreams .. you forget this has been tried before.. .. and to make it sting a bit more for you there is bio LPG .. we have just taken delivery of 3700lts in an effing big tank to heat our home 👍
@@davestagner but turbines only work efficiently when the winds are at the right m/per second, the 2 turbines i have have never worked to the optimum since i gave permission for them to be erected on my fields and to comment what the maintenance guys say 'i keeps people happy so thats why we do it' so if you want to go the route that actually makes gas and coal more efficient than wind or solar prime example you would require over 100 million acres to power America at the same capacity as oil & gas.... so how many to power the uk? im sure im not sacrificing anymore land to erect that something that isnt going to work, Capital costs tend to be low for gas and oil power stations than wind turbines ... the issue is everyones jumped on the worlds burning bandwagon and co2 is going to end all of mankind and the answer is already there with biolpg from plant mass ..... renewable DOESNT EXIST it is utter crap
@@vandamonium1731 I actually accounted for the inefficiencies, computing normal capacity factor into my calculations. But somehow, I don’t think you will care.
Shut the coal plants down now and replace them with wind power two years from now. Triple the price of electricity, that should wipe out the electric car.
This is project will cost more then 60 billion ( if your lucky)and it won't get finished and the company building it will go bankrupt and with the guarantee the US government would of have to put in place for a private company to take such a risk, the US taxpayers will pickup the tab, so yes let's all get excited and clap for this new boondoggle.
I said already in the 90s that wind energy has to solve the storage problems first. I thought Statoil in Norway solved it already 10 years ago, though. Tesla's Megapack is not the solution. Hence 50% federal subsidies in the US (and only 24% profit margin). It is just a corporate socialism pump-and-dump solution at the moment. 50% federal subsidies should be illegal.
No really. Very affordable and the key is reliable. We are stepping back and not forward as a civilization. But so be it and let's see how this shakes out in the future. @@JakobFischer60
Well. I study history and it does repeat itsself. So, here is what will happen with this project. Actual costs will be at least double the "expected" $11B, deliver half of the estimated power and then be obsolete in half the "expected" life of the windmills. This in the real world will have delivered a whopping 12% of what was paid for. IF that came to fruition, would you still feel the same about the investment in our future, or would that money have been better used elsewhere?
If so called private companies build something they have some kind of margins in their calculations. The end bill (the delay) of the last Finnish nuclear reactor was at the end paid by the French taxpayers as the builder, main entrepreneur, went bankrupt more or less. I don't think the French government pays for another high risk project far away from its borders. Theory and reality are two different things in this business.
This is hilarious not because they are actually building it but because eventually no one will be able to live there. This is a "bridge to nowhere". Water will cost too much to import into the desert and the snake river will be dry. People will buy anything if they get excited about it.
I think that these massive projects are going to fail in the long run. I'd vote them down, but I don't get to vote. Many things are shoved onto the public whether they like them or not. I do not trust politicians at all. Although such projects create a lot of jobs, they can also create a lot of backroom deals. There are contracts to be awarded. There are stocks that can be purchased. Politicians know this and they can get rich--no matter if they create a boondoggle or not. The public pays for boondoggles, but somewhere along the line a handful of people got rich. Don't be naive all buy all this green energy save the earth rhetoric, because it's mostly bullshit.
So I asked AI (Copilot) this question: How does America comparte to other similar countries when it comes to "Clean Energy"? AI: Compared to other countries, the United States lags behind in terms of clean energy adoption. According to a report by Our World in Data, the United States ranks 11th in the world in terms of renewable energy consumption per capita, behind countries such as Germany, Denmark, and China 3. However, the country has set ambitious targets to increase the share of renewable energy in its energy mix. The Biden administration has set a goal of achieving 100% clean electricity by 2035 ============= A year from now a new US President is going to gut all these unneeded projects and the USA will shrink to last place Life is good.
Climate change is here or haven't you read about it. The facts and evidence is irrefutable, the amount of data beyond most peoples' ability to comprehend.
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Another large wind project that just broke ground is TransWest Express Transmission Project which is a 732 mile combination of HVDC and HVAC to bring wind energy from Wyoming to Nevada, Arizona, and California.
I dont mind if my country comes to the party late, as long as they get there! Im proud of each new large installation of wind or solar and hope we will not stop!
As German, I welcome this kind of progress everywhere! The US could lead green energy development, if they really went for it even more!
Ich bin zwar gegen EV´s dennoch geht der Zug klar in die Richtung. Und dank eines WEF wird unsere Wirtschaft ehe zerstört
The U.S. could lead the world in new nuclear if not for the Nuclear Regulatory Commission and its death grip on the throat of nuclear. One day, when climate catastrophe is taking humanity down the drain, a serious attempt at nuclear will be unavoidable, and mankind will exclaim collectively, WTF, why didn't we solve this problem with clean safe energy dense nuclear sooner. We've had it for over half a century, and have 25 billion years worth of Uranium.
Are you enjoying your never ceasing electricity price increase ?
The massive increases in Germany's energy cost is due to the USA selling Germany LNG after getting Russian sanctions to stop selling Germany cheap gas. As an Americans, I think we owe Germany an apology.@@robertfonovic3551
Maybe when your property becomes worthless due to drought or flooding, you will realize those high tension towers didn't look so bad after all.@@phillipbanes5484
News alert posted 3 hours ago! "GE Vernova Announces 2.4 GW Order for Pattern Energy's SunZia Wind Project" So Vestas is not the only turbine company participating. Nice to se GE getting some orders!
Your optimism is refreshing. Unfortunately, all that funding seems to be sucked up by opportunists and bureaucracy with much of burden shouldered by the middle class like me.
Your optimism for the energy present used to make me wonder if you really understood the daunting task that for my entire life fighting for renewable energy and electric cars was in front of me. However, your optimism wasn't based on the future yet unseen, but a real optimism based on what is happening very fast right now. I'm totally infected with your optimism now. What I've been fighting for is coming to pass. I want to thank those who are making it happen, but instead I'll just thank the messenger. Thanks Sam. You have made me happy for the energy transition that I can easily see now is here.
@@howardj602Can't disagree. Every study of late shows a worse future than predicted prior.
More of this!
Great project America
Ironic that this project is in New Mexico where Tesla and other EV makers with online sales are not allowed sales outlets or service centers without a traditional dealership. Any such Tesla outlets are all on Native American land, outside of State reach.
Blame NADA: National automotive dealer Association, a very powerful lobbying group.
No problems here in California the land of the free #1 Always and Forever💙 🇺🇸💙
Not outside States' reach. (US gets to judge cases it's party to, so, like Lavar Ball, they #NeverLost.) Like with casinos, States allow it... for a cut of the $.
In other words, Native nations are sovereign 🥳...
Till they want something that US/States don't.
Thermal solar can store Heat as molten sand for the night at a much lower cost than batteries, without the high cost of batteries.
Yes there are sand, concrete and carbon bricks baterry storage now for cheap.
nuclear power plant are more like 20 years to build and start up; Finland, UK.
The average is 6 years. They have been built in 39 months before.
@@pin65371As Finland is close to Russia, a nuclear power plant must stand a nuclear bomb!
When talking about 20 years, we use the expertise that is available in Europe/EU, and build according to European standards. Other countries follow other standards.
My brother actually lives in the small municipality where the new Finnish nuclear power reactor has been built.
@@leiflillandt1488 there would be more expertise if they built more nuclear power plants. Its sorta difficult when they go decades without building them.
I work in the trades and work on multi billion dollar infrastructure projects so that is my experience.
Japan and Sth Korea build them in 4 yrs. Too much red tape and political bungling in Western countries,which adds costs to the projects as well.
@@robertfonovic3551could also be more concerned for environmental impacts and safety.
Sam. 3500 Megawatt is 3.5 Gigawatt. In Nederland we have Completed last Year 2023 4.7 Gigawatt North Sea Wind. In Time on Budget. This month a Tender for 4.5 Gigawatt in Nederland North Sea Wind Power. Ready in 2028, no Subsidie, in Time on Budget. 10 Gigawatt Offshore Windpower. More Tenders on the go for 20 Gigawatt Offshore Windpower in Nederland. Find facts on the Net.
I assume on-shore projects are cheaper than off-shore.
Massively cheaper on shore off shore less objections.
Who’s supplying the batteries?
We use the most oil. We should be leading toward a green future. A lot of catching up to do.
Tesla's Megapack business is booming. The factory in Lathrop, Calif is ramping up to capacity of 10k Megapacks/year, another such factory just started construction in Shanghai. Backlog is about two years last I heard.
Look at who is 3/4 oil and double CO2
The other green leader building 2 coal plants a week
One of the most powerful forces in the world is economics and wind energy turns out to be much cheaper than traditional. Add to it the savings in reduced losses from long distance transmission and large scale adoption was bound to happen.
"Solar Wind Energy Tower"
San Luis Arizona - $1B
They never built the prototype.
Somebody must have bought it out
Destroyed it. How come nobody or you
ever mentions it or probably doesn't even know about it.
In Colorado we currently have 70mph winds and snow. All the wind towers are shut down so they don't break. Have to admit I absolutely hate those hundreds of turbines and red blinking lights at night. They really destroy the sunrise. 3 or 4 days ago one of them caught on fire. I think they ought to switch to the horizontal turbines near the ground. I'd be curious how those might work out.
Horizontal turbines near the ground don't work very well.
They need to buy better wind turbines! Here in the UK our turbines work fine in snowy Scotland. They even work fine in the North sea, with all the waves and salt water spray.
It sounds to me like they bought turbines with no internal heating elements and now their regretting it
😢the blinking lights gotta go
Boeing does renewables?@@domtweed7323
@@billw6903 There's actually a solution for that. The wind turbine companies are looking to put radars on them, which would activate the lights only when an aircraft is nearby.
Personally I think their needs to be state regulations to force them to implement that (consider starting a petition in your jurisdiction about it).
World is spending so much money for renewable energies. Instead, we should send a couple of space shuttles with ability to thickening that Ozone layer cheaply. That will prevent thinning of the Ozone layer up there !
Despite this huge investment (if it is delivered on budget - big if) this scheme (if U.S. energy information administration is to be believed) will only provide about 2% of Arizona’s electricity demand and is guaranteed to put up electricity cost. To get rid of their gas fired power plants they will need 20 more project this size.
Oil use to be skimmed from the ground by hand long ago. Be patient.
Is that a typo? I calculate about 12% of Arizona's consumption, which creates a rather different picture.
Hey Sam, I believe we can turn all our AC units into carbon capture devices, collecting CO2 while we cool our homes.
The captured C02 could be picked up with our weekly trash pickup and then turned back into fuel and useful items.
I don't know why this on one has looked into this?
Any links?
I assume the major issue is energy efficiency. Current direct air capture systems have efficiency of < 1%. Put in 100 units of energy equivalent of burning pure carbon. You only get less then 1 units out from the air.
It makes no sense unless you run the entire AC from pure renewable sources. But it's likely more efficient just selling the power you generated back to the grid so we use less coal and gas.
(Efficiency can't get higher then 100% due to laws of thermodynamics)
Cool info/vid but not a fan when half the clip is stock footage and no commentary. Otherwise good job.
I hope that those building this are smart enough not to build on land belonging to native American tribes so that this project doesn't have to be bulldozed like the 300 wind turbines illegally built without permission on land belonging to the Osage tribe in Oklahoma.
Thank you for your wonderful video and the good news that it contains.
Our pleasure!
Wind is really bad, you don’t have electricity when there is no wind. In Sweden we have lots of windpower, and the price hikes it 3 dollars per kilowatthour
What do you think the batteries are for? They cover the times when there is no wind or solar.
There is a concern about wind turbines blades being not recyclable and need to be replaced periodically.. how green is it really?
Now keep it coming! More of these are needed on this scale... SMR's will work in theory but they'll take way to long to be economical or practical when battery storage and renewables combined will do it cheaper, faster and greener!
This is good news because we desperately need high power transmission lines to transmit electricity from wind farms to big cities. However, I wish these high voltage HVDC lines could be buried. Even though burying lines cost more, it can reduce the maintenance because the buried power lines are protected from the weather. Buried power lines could run next to interstates and make them easily assessable if necessary. The blight from ugly power lines traveling thousands of miles can be greatly reduced by burying as much of the power lines as possible.
To bury these lines would require DC instead of AC power transmission. Possible in the lab, not yet in practice. Much research is currently going to this.
Underground power lines are hugely more expensive to lay, and to maintain. Better get used to the towers.
@@ebx100HVDC lines are already in production. The EU have a bunch of them to balance electrical needs between countries.
See Hornsea 1 and 2 England.
All my conservative friends say it's a bad idea.
All conservatives say everything new is a bad idea.
Has Americans ever thought about consuming less to reduce environmental damage? All these new green tech is also consuming lots of resources and can only slow down so much if all the government is pushing for more and more gdp growth
Really annoying when Sam Evans says that SunZia will have 242 of the biggest wind turbines in the world. Pattern Energy's SunZia project will use 242 Vestas V163-4.5MW turbines to build 1.1GW in wind farms. Those aren't even close to the largest wind turbines, nor the most efficient. The largest installed offshore wind turbine is currently the MySE 16.0-260 and the largest onshore one is an 8.5MW Goldwind turbine at Changyi Wind Farm. The largest planned onshore turbine is the Goldwind GWH24X-12.X which is 12MW and the largest planned offshore turbine is the Mingyang MySE 22MW with a 310 meter rotor. The V163-4.5 is puny compared to these turbines.
It takes 3800 wind turbines to power New York city and the oil need for the turbines would be 304,000 gallons of refined oil. This does not look good.
The United States extracted more oil and gas than ever before in 2023, a year that was the hottest ever recorded. The US’s status as the world’s leading oil and gas producer strengthened in the year 2023. The latest federal government data shows a record 12M barrels of crude oil per day was extracted in 2023, more than double what was produced a decade ago. Japan builds nuclear plants in 39 months; the Nuclear Regulatory Commission is killing nuclear in the U.S., and has for decades, despite it being the cleanest, safest, most energy dense, and most reliable form of energy generation.
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What is the estimated return on investment to this project?
ROI not the Environment will definitely decide the future on renewables.
How much storage is being assigned to this project?
Storage and the associated arbitrage profit will make the investors very happy.
Is this just expansion to the grid or are any "Peaker" plants being shut down?
Nukes pollute; taxpayers pick up the clean-up tab.
ok so what goes into making a wind turbine, the transmission lines, the machinery to mine and extract the minerals and the oils to build them? this isnt including the machinery and i qoute this from an environmental page
'A 5-MW turbine has three roughly 60-meter-long airfoils, each weighing about 15 metric tons. They have light balsa or foam cores and outer laminations made mostly from glass-fiber-reinforced epoxy or polyester resins. The glass is made by melting silicon dioxide and other mineral oxides in furnaces fired by natural gas. The resins begin with ethylene derived from light hydrocarbons, most commonly the products of naphtha cracking, liquefied petroleum gas, or the ethane in natural gas.
The final fiber-reinforced composite embodies on the order of 170 GJ/t. Therefore, to get 2.5 TW of installed wind power by 2030, we would need an aggregate rotor mass of about 23 million metric tons, incorporating the equivalent of about 90 million metric tons of crude oil. And when all is in place, the entire structure must be waterproofed with resins whose synthesis starts with ethylene. Another required oil product is lubricant, for the turbine gearboxes, which has to be changed periodically during the machine’s two-decade lifetime'
why do you think oil companies are 'heaviliy investing' in renewable energy? is it clean?
i will leave that for you to decide
Have you computed how much electrical energy will be generated by those turbines over their lifespans? You should. Then look at how much coal/gas it would take to produce that much energy. Then ask yourself again if it’s a worthwhile investment.
Nevermind, I’ll do some math for you. 2.5TW of installed wind power, at a 33% capacity factor, would produce about 7 trillion megawatt-hours of energy per year. By way of contrast, 90 million tons of oil contains about a billion megawatt-hours of energy. So the oil you’re concerned about? That many wind turbines would replace seven thousand times as much energy as that oil contains - each year. For what, 25 years? So over their lives, the oil used to make those blades would lead to around 175,000 times more energy produced than is contained in the oil.
@@davestagner by the time you factor into the replacement costs of the blades and gearboxes every 10years along with grease etc and production of new parts wind turbines will surpass the usage of oil for energy generation .... But you continue with your dreams .. you forget this has been tried before.. .. and to make it sting a bit more for you there is bio LPG .. we have just taken delivery of 3700lts in an effing big tank to heat our home 👍
@@davestagner but turbines only work efficiently when the winds are at the right m/per second, the 2 turbines i have have never worked to the optimum since i gave permission for them to be erected on my fields and to comment what the maintenance guys say 'i keeps people happy so thats why we do it' so if you want to go the route that actually makes gas and coal more efficient than wind or solar prime example you would require over 100 million acres to power America at the same capacity as oil & gas.... so how many to power the uk? im sure im not sacrificing anymore land to erect that something that isnt going to work, Capital costs tend to be low for gas and oil power stations than wind turbines ... the issue is everyones jumped on the worlds burning bandwagon and co2 is going to end all of mankind and the answer is already there with biolpg from plant mass ..... renewable DOESNT EXIST it is utter crap
@@vandamonium1731 I actually accounted for the inefficiencies, computing normal capacity factor into my calculations. But somehow, I don’t think you will care.
Shut the coal plants down now and replace them with wind power two years from now. Triple the price of electricity, that should wipe out the electric car.
Yippee! More more more! Bring on the wind and solar. F fossil fuels!
This is project will cost more then 60 billion ( if your lucky)and it won't get finished and the company building it will go bankrupt and with the guarantee the US government would of have to put in place for a private company to take such a risk, the US taxpayers will pickup the tab, so yes let's all get excited and clap for this new boondoggle.
The US is currently number 2 in the world for wind energy.
Will customers be forced to buy their energy from this project? Yes! Will it be cheap, 24/7/365 provider? No.
Are customers forced to buy fossil energy? Yes. Are they expensive? Yes.
I said already in the 90s that wind energy has to solve the storage problems first. I thought Statoil in Norway solved it already 10 years ago, though.
Tesla's Megapack is not the solution. Hence 50% federal subsidies in the US (and only 24% profit margin). It is just a corporate socialism pump-and-dump solution at the moment. 50% federal subsidies should be illegal.
No really. Very affordable and the key is reliable. We are stepping back and not forward as a civilization. But so be it and let's see how this shakes out in the future. @@JakobFischer60
Hello mate
Hopefully we stay behind. Nuclear > Solar, wind, and city sized batteries.
Hopefully this will be a wake up call for others to also step up their game.
Well. I study history and it does repeat itsself. So, here is what will happen with this project. Actual costs will be at least double the "expected" $11B, deliver half of the estimated power and then be obsolete in half the "expected" life of the windmills. This in the real world will have delivered a whopping 12% of what was paid for. IF that came to fruition, would you still feel the same about the investment in our future, or would that money have been better used elsewhere?
You’re talking nonsense. Study history? 😂 Where did you see wind farm projects going double budget? Get lost with your s…d statements…
They’re working just fine here in the UK, delivering more than projected. But you knew that😊
If so called private companies build something they have some kind of margins in their calculations.
The end bill (the delay) of the last Finnish nuclear reactor was at the end paid by the French taxpayers as the builder, main entrepreneur, went bankrupt more or less.
I don't think the French government pays for another high risk project far away from its borders.
Theory and reality are two different things in this business.
3GW... How is that even helpful? That's not even close to run a city let alone revolutionary. We need better projects
This is hilarious not because they are actually building it but because eventually no one will be able to live there. This is a "bridge to nowhere". Water will cost too much to import into the desert and the snake river will be dry. People will buy anything if they get excited about it.
What does the Snake river have to do with Arizona and California?
Cheers mate
20 billion dollar solar farm destroyed by hail
They are also going to use solar panels as pavement on bicycle roads!
@@leiflillandt1488 that won't work
I think that these massive projects are going to fail in the long run. I'd vote them down, but I don't get to vote. Many things are shoved onto the public whether they like them or not. I do not trust politicians at all. Although such projects create a lot of jobs, they can also create a lot of backroom deals. There are contracts to be awarded. There are stocks that can be purchased. Politicians know this and they can get rich--no matter if they create a boondoggle or not. The public pays for boondoggles, but somewhere along the line a handful of people got rich. Don't be naive all buy all this green energy save the earth rhetoric, because it's mostly bullshit.
So I asked AI (Copilot) this question:
How does America comparte to other similar countries when it comes to "Clean Energy"?
AI:
Compared to other countries, the United States lags behind in terms of clean energy adoption. According to a report by Our World in Data, the United States ranks 11th in the world in terms of renewable energy consumption per capita, behind countries such as Germany, Denmark, and China 3. However, the country has set ambitious targets to increase the share of renewable energy in its energy mix. The Biden administration has set a goal of achieving 100% clean electricity by 2035
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A year from now a new US President is going to gut all these unneeded projects
and the USA will shrink to last place
Life is good.
We need more coal and nat gas and ban EVS and green energy scams.
Climate change is here or haven't you read about it. The facts and evidence is irrefutable, the amount of data beyond most peoples' ability to comprehend.
Hurry up breaking the grounds before Trump reverses it later this year 😂
Nitpick: Even in the unfortunate situation of him being elected, he won't be inaugurated until 2025.
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Total waste of money
Makes sense and even when the turbines are done, they can be recycled.