I always had a theory that Goku actually was the first one to achieve ssj grade 2 and he did it off screen during the Frieza battle right after Frieza goes 100% and spears Goku into the planets core when Goku comes back he is clearly much more buff and looks exactly the same as he is when he showed gohan the form as he also was stronger and since Frieza was slowly fading the speed was never an issue hence why Goku already knew about it an it's weaknesses when talking to gohan
OH MY GOSH! You have more reasons besides just design. I have reasons like that 2. Like how Super Saiyan, Super Saiyan 3, and Super Saiyan 4 all get new moves. Super Saiyan might just be a Ki Color change for some or enhancing their attributes because of how powerful the initial transformation is and the payoff for most Pure Saiyans even if they don't know it. This might be why Hybrids might not be as affected. Super Saiyan 3 just seems to have such an increase in power and something that it allows for new techniques or maybe it seems naturally made Goku has Dragon Fist, Super Dragon Twin Fists, that one KAmehameha like thing and many more moves which show the power of this form along with his KAmehameha being upgraded again to it's TRUE form. Vegeta has the Galick Blazer in Dokkan and Galick Shooting as well as some other moves I've heard. Bar-/ Broly has his Meteor moves I think upgraded from what I remember although I haven't played those games only seen clips and Gigantic Omega almost seems like he is copying the Kamehameha with his own energy. Bardock has one of the coolest having his Rebellion Edge them blades go crazy. Gotenks is a weird one also I guess he should have been second technically but he is a fusion which fusion's even in base or SS show new techniques and then Gotenks has SS3 one thing I can say is that it seems his techniques at least increase from what I remember of the games he goes from 1 Donut - 3 and increases the scale of his attacks. Gohan I don't know if he made a new tech or Trunks. Gogeta and Vegito are fusions but I think they can also use the other techs but I don't know about them either. Who else uses this form in other media? OH yeah Cumber but he's like this MAdara figure I don't even know his base techniques so I don't know how they change when he activates the form. = SS4 is more blatant. 10X Kamehameha. Final Shine improvements. Broly has Gigantic Destruction. I've heard Gohan has his MAsenko upgraded but I haven't seen it and I don't think Dokkan shows it. Vegito and Gogeta most likely can upgrade their variations we've already seen the Big Bang KAmehameha go beyond so this even stems to fusions although I guess maybe Galactic Spirit sword is the closest to their made up techniques until we see if Gogeta Upgrades Soul Punisher! 12? You must be using mainly canon material because if not you can go further I probably could rank like 20+ Goku forms. Although I think I agree and these would most likely be the bottom for me as well they do a bit in Dokkan but they are not really forms Goku gets to show off and don't really end up being that impressive overall they rank higher on Vegeta's list because the forms fit him more. 11: UI concept with God&Blue. I actually like this a lot but Goku doesn't get to do much with it. It's a step of becoming closer to the angels but it seems saiyans more function with this state like a transformation rather than a casual state which could be stacked with other powers if they so have it. 10: Blue Kaioken I actually rank above Blue because of the appearance at the start maybe... 9: Super Saiyan 2 for me is actually higher because I love the fight and the techniques used although I don't believe SS2 might give it's own techniques I do believe the concept of more power alone can allow you to make techniques and he probably made most of those cool tech's when he was training in otherworld. The use of instant transmission to fight is underrated but I understand other forms could use it. I guess I understand the lack of originality I do feel like if I were to make 1 change that it would be finding a way to make each SS2 look more distinct from each other depending on the user. Yeah Gohan higher on his list. 8: WOW? I wouldn't have this that high... Although I get that lore implications... 7: Super Saiyan. Let's get it. Maybe I would have it around this tier I know SS is quite high. Yet not top. 6: Oh wow... 5: Yes this is high... 4: "Canon" is a weird term but SS4 I feel deserves its place on the list more than Heroes, Game content, and other movie content. One interesting Detail of this form that I give Vegeta in this form is that he has Blue eyes unlike Goku's family which has Yellow and the fusions take more of Vegeta's eye color. Broly well... We can't even see his eyes when he goes like this but I would assume they would be closer to red off only Dark Broly. SS one below. 3: Yeah this might be a hot take for this list. Not for being on the list but the LEVEL! Although I do get it because of how you are ranking it. 2: HERE WE GO! 1: HUH? SS? What is here? My prediction is SS. Wow... I thought you were ranking fully powered as SS but wow... Well I guess I understand but for me even though before watching this I had a hint of the idea of how I ranked the forms and now after watching this I understand that maybe I need to expand upon how I exactly rank them I have never ranked SS as 1 it has been Top 3 or Top 5 depending on what I've been ranking but never in the No. 1 spot. So this is quite shocking. ===== Anyways this was quite a fun video I never expected someone else's opinion to create such a discussion from me. I did enjoy this list and how you went about it so I felt like I had to comment with a style that would allow me to discuss what I wanted to about the video. I usually do this when it comes to ranking vids but I try to be vague when talking about the points as so if anyone reads my comment before they finish the video or get to a certain point I don't end up the spoiler comment would be easier if I could just put more blatant spoiler tags but even then it might not be in my personality to do such a thing. Other forms that could be ranked or that I would rank include and I'm going off the wiki for these. Note: This is counting forms that can be ranked not my order of how I would rank them because if it was SS4 Variations and Potential Unlock True would be higher. 1: Unlock Potential(Ultra Divine Water) 2: Agile Style? (Weighted Cloting) I guess I could count this in a way. 3: Ginyu Body(This one is just funny) 4: Pseudo SS/Fasle SS(This one is just cool)! 5: Spirit Bomb SS(This one just works) 6: Super Kaio-ken(Comparable to Kaio-Ken) 7: Saiyan Beyond God 8: Zamasu's Body(Worse than Ginyu's Body spoiler alert) 9: True Ultra Instinct (I'm not that far in the Manga yet) 10: Super Saiyan Berserk or Super Saiyan 2 Berserk(Interesting) 11: Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan (Berserk) (But I like this one better) 12: Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan (Universe Tree Power) This Aura looks GREAT! 13: GT Forms... I don't know if I would rank these each or separately he just transforms into 1-3 as a child I guess maybe SS3 deserves it's mention here but if I rank everything maybe I would rank them although most would just go under their other variations as they don't get enough time and Tail SS3 while it does look quite cool might not compare to SS3 at best it would be just above it because relative. 14: Golden Great Ape 15: Super Full Power Saiyan 4 or Ultra Full Power Super Saiyan 4(It's cool what do I have to say)? 16: Change(Great form). 17: Vegeta's body (Xenoverse) Ok this one might be comparable to Ginyu I actually like this weird hoop concept. 18: Super Saiyan 4 Kaio-Ken(I don't know how to rank this compared to the other stacking's of Kaioken it might be lower as Gogeta uses it better). 19: Potential Unleashed(Extreme Butoden) (I LOVE THIS FORM) 20: I can't find anything else that wasn't already mentioned on this list so honorable fan made mention but close enough is SS5 which would compare to SS4 because that's the best it can get. SS5 as a child was THAT form like SS4 was very cool and SS5 ended up finding a way to be a good enough successor it took the traits of SS4 and the Long hair of SS3 a color style and made the controversial decisions of both forms work for some who didn't like SS3's long hair were fine with SS5 just because the overall form and how it used them and I feel in past media had little possible nods with Gogeta alter costumes in SS4 having the Grey of Silver like color. 21: Weird technically didn't get the form and questionable if it exists Super Saiyan 3 Full Power for Goku. Rose has it in his Rose form but I think it's like a design thing in that one sketch of SS3 it probably wouldn't be above but comparable. Anyways while I rambled a lot of things you probably don't care about I'm here at the end to say I truly enjoyed this video as I don't think I've ever seen someone rank the forms in such a way that is so understandable and explained really felt like I was watching some different content from a different person almost and I like this kind of vibe/aura. Also the forms on the right was great editing and I really enjoyed that helped me get a gauge of how I feel you might feel when looking at the forms.
How did I forget Limit Breaker Super Saiyan 4? Well it's similar to SS5 but it has a lot because that aura and it's appearance along with it's usage is just so great.
For power it goes: (From weakest first to strongest last) Oozaru Kaioken Ssj grade 3 (might be weaker than kaioken) Super saiyan Super saiyan grade 2 Super saiyan grade 4 Super saiyan 2 Super saiyan 3 Super saiyan god Super saiyan 4 Super saiyan blue Blue Kaioken UI + SSG/SSB Ultra Instinct
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I personally like super Saiyan god the most. The look really does for me. And in the anime the music that plays when it comes out really does it.
yeah the music is fire but i wished they added a little more than just the red hair and aura
i agree
this video speaks for itself bro i 100% agree and this editing is awesome bro. pls rank vegeta's transformations next
Super Saiyan at #1 immediately establishes this as legit
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@@MindAndMythfor you Goku has more won or lost these count the all fights db dbz dbgt dbs and movies dbz ?
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I always had a theory that Goku actually was the first one to achieve ssj grade 2 and he did it off screen during the Frieza battle right after Frieza goes 100% and spears Goku into the planets core when Goku comes back he is clearly much more buff and looks exactly the same as he is when he showed gohan the form as he also was stronger and since Frieza was slowly fading the speed was never an issue hence why Goku already knew about it an it's weaknesses when talking to gohan
Here for the masterclass editing
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like literally the only thing good is the editing so good shi wit that
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Super Saiyan 4 is my favorite design
Not my favorite but I do think it looks cool.
@@MindAndMyth It just felt strong
For me as far as the main transformations go i would rank them from best to worst (none are bad ): Ssj4, Ui, Ssj1,ssjgod, ssj3, blue and ssj2
in my opinion SSJ5 is the coolest and best looking form to be created even if its non cannon.
I dont love the really long strand of hair it has but ive always thought the gi goku had in that form looks cool.
@@MindAndMyth the gi was pretty cool but SSJ5 is my favourite it can differ for you tho so yea
Can you rank all vegeta’s transformations
I don't plan on doing another video exactly like this right away. But I'll think about it for sure.
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OH MY GOSH!
You have more reasons besides just design.
I have reasons like that 2.
Like how Super Saiyan, Super Saiyan 3, and Super Saiyan 4 all get new moves.
Super Saiyan might just be a Ki Color change for some or enhancing their attributes because of how powerful the initial transformation is and the payoff for most Pure Saiyans even if they don't know it.
This might be why Hybrids might not be as affected.
Super Saiyan 3 just seems to have such an increase in power and something that it allows for new techniques or maybe it seems naturally made Goku has Dragon Fist, Super Dragon Twin Fists, that one KAmehameha like thing and many more moves which show the power of this form along with his KAmehameha being upgraded again to it's TRUE form.
Vegeta has the Galick Blazer in Dokkan and Galick Shooting as well as some other moves I've heard.
Bar-/ Broly has his Meteor moves I think upgraded from what I remember although I haven't played those games only seen clips and Gigantic Omega almost seems like he is copying the Kamehameha with his own energy.
Bardock has one of the coolest having his Rebellion Edge them blades go crazy.
Gotenks is a weird one also I guess he should have been second technically but he is a fusion which fusion's even in base or SS show new techniques and then Gotenks has SS3 one thing I can say is that it seems his techniques at least increase from what I remember of the games he goes from 1 Donut - 3 and increases the scale of his attacks.
Gohan I don't know if he made a new tech or Trunks.
Gogeta and Vegito are fusions but I think they can also use the other techs but I don't know about them either.
Who else uses this form in other media?
OH yeah Cumber but he's like this MAdara figure I don't even know his base techniques so I don't know how they change when he activates the form.
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SS4 is more blatant.
10X Kamehameha.
Final Shine improvements.
Broly has Gigantic Destruction.
I've heard Gohan has his MAsenko upgraded but I haven't seen it and I don't think Dokkan shows it.
Vegito and Gogeta most likely can upgrade their variations we've already seen the Big Bang KAmehameha go beyond so this even stems to fusions although I guess maybe Galactic Spirit sword is the closest to their made up techniques until we see if Gogeta Upgrades Soul Punisher!
12?
You must be using mainly canon material because if not you can go further I probably could rank like 20+ Goku forms.
Although I think I agree and these would most likely be the bottom for me as well they do a bit in Dokkan but they are not really forms Goku gets to show off and don't really end up being that impressive overall they rank higher on Vegeta's list because the forms fit him more.
11:
UI concept with God&Blue.
I actually like this a lot but Goku doesn't get to do much with it.
It's a step of becoming closer to the angels but it seems saiyans more function with this state like a transformation rather than a casual state which could be stacked with other powers if they so have it.
10:
Blue Kaioken I actually rank above Blue because of the appearance at the start maybe...
9:
Super Saiyan 2 for me is actually higher because I love the fight and the techniques used although I don't believe SS2 might give it's own techniques I do believe the concept of more power alone can allow you to make techniques and he probably made most of those cool tech's when he was training in otherworld.
The use of instant transmission to fight is underrated but I understand other forms could use it.
I guess I understand the lack of originality I do feel like if I were to make 1 change that it would be finding a way to make each SS2 look more distinct from each other depending on the user.
Yeah Gohan higher on his list.
8:
WOW? I wouldn't have this that high... Although I get that lore implications...
7: Super Saiyan.
Let's get it.
Maybe I would have it around this tier I know SS is quite high.
Yet not top.
6:
Oh wow...
5:
Yes this is high...
4:
"Canon" is a weird term but SS4 I feel deserves its place on the list more than Heroes, Game content, and other movie content.
One interesting Detail of this form that I give Vegeta in this form is that he has Blue eyes unlike Goku's family which has Yellow and the fusions take more of Vegeta's eye color.
Broly well... We can't even see his eyes when he goes like this but I would assume they would be closer to red off only Dark Broly.
SS one below.
3:
Yeah this might be a hot take for this list.
Not for being on the list but the LEVEL!
Although I do get it because of how you are ranking it.
2:
HERE WE GO!
1:
HUH?
SS? What is here?
My prediction is SS.
Wow...
I thought you were ranking fully powered as SS but wow...
Well I guess I understand but for me even though before watching this I had a hint of the idea of how I ranked the forms and now after watching this I understand that maybe I need to expand upon how I exactly rank them I have never ranked SS as 1 it has been Top 3 or Top 5 depending on what I've been ranking but never in the No. 1 spot.
So this is quite shocking.
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Anyways this was quite a fun video I never expected someone else's opinion to create such a discussion from me.
I did enjoy this list and how you went about it so I felt like I had to comment with a style that would allow me to discuss what I wanted to about the video.
I usually do this when it comes to ranking vids but I try to be vague when talking about the points as so if anyone reads my comment before they finish the video or get to a certain point I don't end up the spoiler comment would be easier if I could just put more blatant spoiler tags but even then it might not be in my personality to do such a thing.
Other forms that could be ranked or that I would rank include and I'm going off the wiki for these.
Note: This is counting forms that can be ranked not my order of how I would rank them because if it was SS4 Variations and Potential Unlock True would be higher.
1: Unlock Potential(Ultra Divine Water)
2: Agile Style? (Weighted Cloting) I guess I could count this in a way.
3: Ginyu Body(This one is just funny)
4: Pseudo SS/Fasle SS(This one is just cool)!
5: Spirit Bomb SS(This one just works)
6: Super Kaio-ken(Comparable to Kaio-Ken)
7: Saiyan Beyond God
8: Zamasu's Body(Worse than Ginyu's Body spoiler alert)
9: True Ultra Instinct (I'm not that far in the Manga yet)
10: Super Saiyan Berserk or Super Saiyan 2 Berserk(Interesting)
11: Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan (Berserk) (But I like this one better)
12: Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan (Universe Tree Power) This Aura looks GREAT!
13: GT Forms... I don't know if I would rank these each or separately he just transforms into 1-3 as a child I guess maybe SS3 deserves it's mention here but if I rank everything maybe I would rank them although most would just go under their other variations as they don't get enough time and Tail SS3 while it does look quite cool might not compare to SS3 at best it would be just above it because relative.
14: Golden Great Ape
15: Super Full Power Saiyan 4 or Ultra Full Power Super Saiyan 4(It's cool what do I have to say)?
16: Change(Great form).
17: Vegeta's body (Xenoverse) Ok this one might be comparable to Ginyu I actually like this weird hoop concept.
18: Super Saiyan 4 Kaio-Ken(I don't know how to rank this compared to the other stacking's of Kaioken it might be lower as Gogeta uses it better).
19: Potential Unleashed(Extreme Butoden) (I LOVE THIS FORM)
20: I can't find anything else that wasn't already mentioned on this list so honorable fan made mention but close enough is SS5 which would compare to SS4 because that's the best it can get.
SS5 as a child was THAT form like SS4 was very cool and SS5 ended up finding a way to be a good enough successor it took the traits of SS4 and the Long hair of SS3 a color style and made the controversial decisions of both forms work for some who didn't like SS3's long hair were fine with SS5 just because the overall form and how it used them and I feel in past media had little possible nods with Gogeta alter costumes in SS4 having the Grey of Silver like color.
21: Weird technically didn't get the form and questionable if it exists Super Saiyan 3 Full Power for Goku. Rose has it in his Rose form but I think it's like a design thing in that one sketch of SS3 it probably wouldn't be above but comparable.
Anyways while I rambled a lot of things you probably don't care about I'm here at the end to say I truly enjoyed this video as I don't think I've ever seen someone rank the forms in such a way that is so understandable and explained really felt like I was watching some different content from a different person almost and I like this kind of vibe/aura.
Also the forms on the right was great editing and I really enjoyed that helped me get a gauge of how I feel you might feel when looking at the forms.
How did I forget Limit Breaker Super Saiyan 4?
Well it's similar to SS5 but it has a lot because that aura and it's appearance along with it's usage is just so great.
can you do this again but Just based on power?
Well this would be a bit dumb then,because super saiyan blue x20 kaioken and MUI would at the very top obviously
For power it goes:
(From weakest first to strongest last)
Oozaru
Kaioken
Ssj grade 3 (might be weaker than kaioken)
Super saiyan
Super saiyan grade 2
Super saiyan grade 4
Super saiyan 2
Super saiyan 3
Super saiyan god
Super saiyan 4
Super saiyan blue
Blue Kaioken
UI + SSG/SSB
Ultra Instinct
@@MindAndMyth Putting SSG and SS4 right beside each other respectable!
@@zelz3011 actually 4 goes first
@@ilikecatsalot4688 Still Relative that's the point.
We aint talking about the granolah arc :)
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Goku Ultra Instinct kinda cute 🙊
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Acknowledge ssj4
Lets goooooo
This list is questionable in my opinion
Im not trying to say my list is some sort of divine truth. Its mostly just my opinion with some reasoning as to why.
Vegeta is better