House Fire on Camera - Long version
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ต.ค. 2022
- House fire in Inner West, Sydney Australia caused by electrical fault in dehumidifier. Security camera captured 12min 5sec of footage in the home before camera tripped off.
Shows good example for fire training on smoke timing and how smoke descends and how to get down low and go, go, go!
Short version available on this link: • House fire caught on c... for fire safety training purposes.
No-one was hurt (including pets), just extensive smoke damage throughout the house.
Spooky. This is a good example how important it is to have smoke alarm.
Oh yes. You can hear the smoke alarm goes off at 0:42, so you would have enough time to get out.
Even better, get a Google Nest Protect
How could they film this?
@@moemcgovern7345it's a security camera genius 🙄🤦🏻♂️
But, even better, a smart smoke alarm that can send notifications to the smartphone
I know others have already mentioned this, but it can’t be over emphasized enough: MAKE SURE YOUR SMOKE DETECTORS WORK! Thank goodness no one and no pets were hurt. I feel terrible for the homeowner(s).
This could make a good instructional video for school kids.
Also keep doors closed!
It will take a lot of trips to do that
@@MatthewPierce128 to do what
Close them
@@user-dp5tv8ze7y it’s worth it and you get exercise
Electrical fires ARE scary. My husband, young daughter and I had one New Year's morning 2016, 2 months after we just moved into our new house. It was in the ceiling of our living room. Only clue was that half the house lost power. Luckily, my husband couldn't sleep during New Year's eve and was up all night. He woke me around 7:15 and asked me if I could smell anything. I went room to room and told him I didn't smell anything except for in the living room. It smelled like someone was burning a brush pile or something. He called the fire department and the chief came with a thermal imaging gun. He had other crew members on stand-by. He imaged kitchen then dining room the foyer and then the living room ceilings. Living room glowed HOT on the imaging. I got my 9 year old daughter Emma up, dressed and out of her room, which is off the living room, and took her down the street to one of her sister's house and told my then son in law that I needed to leave her there because my house was on fire. By the time I returned to my house, the fire crew had already busted through the ceiling and had extinguished the fire. But my living room, entertainment center, movie collection, sofa and such were smoke and water damaged. Took 4 months and a LOT of depreciation from the insurance company but we restored it ourselves except for the rewiring of the entire house. Fire Marshall said that it was caused by the fact that newer wiring was connected to older "knob & tube" wiring and it shorted out and smoldered for at least 12 hours before we noticed anything wrong. That was 8 years ago. First fire. LAST fire.
I hope you got your house re-wired and new electrical box installed. I thought the old ones were outlawed. They cause too many problems.
Glad you were safe but you saying last fire isn’t technically true. You didn’t cause it but a house fire can be caused by just lighting strike
Yeech...a novel ...Relax, Francis!!
We had one when i was teenager in 1975.They were remodeling the high school and temporarily were using the building across the street from us as the high school. We didnt ,know that our hotse had old aluminum wiring in it. We had lived there for eight years. No problem. Then we had the fire. It gutted the downstairs. It was started by the vibrations by the school busses causing the wires to rub against each other.
We had one when i was teenager in 1975.They were remodeling the high school and temporarily were using the building across the street from us as the high school. We didnt ,know that our hotse had old aluminum wiring in it. We had lived there for eight years. No problem. Then we had the fire. It gutted the downstairs. It was started by the vibrations by the school busses causing the wires to rub against each other.
The way that black smoke creeps downward is scary
Like a scary ghost.
Yes! That was so freaky!
The dog knew something was wrong. You can hear it barking long before there was any sign of smoke.
This!!!
That
Probably smelled something before the alarms detected it.
Smoke alarms and seat belts are the two most important safety devices ever conceived. I've worked many fires where long after extinguishment and overhaul we still found melted smoke alarms trying to do their job.
If you don't have or use these things you are stupid.
Important to note a few things:
1. The smoke line in that hallway was lower than this room. Hence, the importance of getting low (where the fresher air is) and going out.
2. The cessation of the alarms at 12:00 (the clock time noted on the video). This could be turned off by an alarm company at being told all occupants were out of the building -OR- that there was a power loss and the alarm stopped sounding due to no battery backup.
3. If you look closely towards the end of the video, you can see a lighter layer of smoke under the black smoke. Visible by the TV and tabletop. Not visible on the floor but that doesn't mean there's no smoke or less visible toxic gases there.
The alarms went on after 45 seconds, turned off within 2 minutes and then back on again at minutes 5 or 6.. weird.
@@TheStabbyMedic , indeed! Malfunction?
@@Kihsiimawa absolutely!
No. It's intended to go on and off so it's not lost in noise of other things....
@@TheStabbyMedic the original poster said his neighbor is a firefighter and have the ability to turn it off (which only firemen have the ability to do) as well as get more crews on scene quickly
I lost a few friends last month to a house fire. No working alarms, faulty electric caused it. The younger of the two (they were siblings) was thought to have been awake when it started. You can't expect it to happen, but you can take measures to prevent it from happening. Do what you can to protect your loved ones!
sorry to hear that
My sincerest condolences . ☹😢
Sorry for your loss. 🙏 That’s my biggest fear is a fire. In a house, or trapped in a car after an accident. It’s so absolute. 😢
I remember going through the fire training and we simulated this scenario with a fog machine. Didn't believe that the room would go completely pitch black but it did. Then we had our live burn, the smoke gets so thick that you can't even see the fire 10 feet in front of you.
My house caught fire last August (26-8-2022) because of a faulty air fryer. Luckily everyone is okay and no pets were harmed, but this shows how important it is to have working smoke alarms. Stay safe y'all.
What was the make of your air fryer? I have a Cosori that was recalled due to fire hazard
@@tesscod2561 We had a Cosori as well. We used it almost every day, and it would overheat a lot. When I first heard about the recall, I immediately sent mine back and got a new one.
I have heard a lot of fireman and woman say air fryers should never be left plugged in when you are not home because they have caused many fires.
My aunts house also caught fire due to an air fryer. They couldn't prove that it was but they were 99% sure it was the cause. It was unplugged but not fully cooled off yet so it caught fire.
@@iamReddington so the new one was the one that caught fire?
That would be horrifying to be sitting at work and watching your house catch on fire through the cameras linked to your phone. You would feel so helpless
It is and you do
Especially hearing your dog barking
You can call 911 (or whatever your country’s emergency number is) from work if your camera alerts you that the smoke alarm is sounding. Rather a broken down door than a completely burnt down home.
Well now you see the point of putting cameras everywhere 🙄 just to live in fear and anxiety
@@kayleefreiling14abv19are you saying having camera in your house is a bad thing?
Watching this gave me so much anxiety! I'm so happy that no lives were lost. This is a really great example on the importance of working smoke detectors & why you hit the ground and crawl out. It looked like a crazy bad storm blowing in. Eerie! Thank you for sharing this video. The knowledge of what happens following the initial smoke detector alarm will very likely save some lives in the future.
Yikes. This is so freaking scary and anxiety ridden. But a really important lesson.
Goes to show why it’s important to have your smoke alarms up and running as they can detect the smoke very quickly so you have time to get out and get help. And look at how thick the smoke got! That would kill you fast.
I’m so glad to hear that this had a happen ending. All home owners and animals were not hurt and the house wasn’t completely destroyed.
Me too!
Wyze offers a monitoring service now that recognizes smoke alarm sounds...I think I may add that at my place having watched this. Crazy.
No, get a monitored security system with monitored smoke detectors.
Wow, @4:35 you can finally see the hallway wall start to shine red…
Any kind of fire break out upsets me. One thing I am very serious about is, preventing fire, because of the damage it causes and the lives it takes. Sometimes, like this house, it's in the wiring. I hope this family didn't lose much, and has home insurance. Good thing nobody was home or had pets trapped in there.
Dehumidifiers are a fire hazard. Most of the dehumidifiers you'll find in retail stores are mass produced by just a couple companies in China for many different companies and there have been several recalls because of fire hazard. Never leave it run or even plugged in while you aren't home or while you sleep.
Then what's the point to have one? Mine has been plugged in in the basement since the day I got it.
@geniferteal4178 You do what you want. I used to have these things as part of my stock when I had a job selling appliances and I saw more than one fire hazard recall come down the line. And, when they came it affected several different brands at one time. I won't leave mine on. I upgraded to a commercial unit to get the same results in a shorter amount of time so I don't have to run it 24/7. There was a recall as recently as August of 2023 affecting millions of units sold under multiple brand names. The reason was overheating and fire hazard.
@brob-zy8zi I appreciate the info and I'll take a look at it. For clarification, while I have it plugged in 24/7. I have it set to 75%. It only turns on and off when the humidity is higher. It's cycles a lot.
@@geniferteal4178 👍👍👍
It's not an issue limited to dehumidifiers. A lot of electric things are made very cheaply and rating labels are quite often counterfeit. Every electrical item in your home is a risk. Everything.
Glad they got the fire out before the whole house was destroyed I watch so many fire vids where house burns down
this I found scary to watch and glad no one including their fur fam was hurt!
Sorry for your loss, but thanks for sharing, I'm sure you have educated some people.
Wouldnt it be nice if the camera device could alert fire dept of whats developing
That is actually a thing. Wyze can detect fire alarm sounds and call the fire department for you. You have to have the correct plan.
This is so interesting, now I understand how smoke is the killer😢
Yep, that's why they say 'get down low and go go go!'
Me too. I hope everyone know how dangerious the smoke is and know how to survive.
This is very educational but also sad for the poor home-owners. I keep three fire extinguishers here, one in the entrance hall, one close to the kitchen and one next to my desk. I've never had to use them but if the day comes ... then they're there for me. Every home should have at least two placed at strategic locations, the expense is a worthwhile investment that few people even think about. (And do your smoke alarm checks every few months.)
I remember once I was studying past midnight in the living room at my dad's apartment. His apartment was at the top of the building. Suddenly I start to see smoke, not black smoke but grey. I rubbed my eyes thinking I might be sleepy but no, I was right, that was smoke but didn't smell like it. I checked all the rooms, nothing was on fire... I wake up my father and sibilings, opened the front door and there's no noise, but the smoke was still there, now sticking to my throat. I told my family to take the stairs. My dad had crutches so me and my younger brother helped him. By half the floors we barely could see the stairs but we managed somehow. When we finally got out the fire dpt was already there taking out the fire that originated on the first floor. An old woman left her clothes OVER the oven to dry them faster. I always think what would have happened if I wasn't awake that time.
That smoke is vicious, I see why the fire department bust out every last window of the house.
With the proliferation of power strips and better wiring house fires have become less common but we are also using more electronics than ever before, especially devices with batteries that require chargers. I'm a bit of a techie and have a lot.
I always use good quality power strips with overload and fuse protection. This vid has actually made me worry a bit about leaving things chaging overnight.
This fire was very silent and I'm sure I wouldn't have woken up without the fire alarms blaring.
Heart breaking to watch. First thought: smoke detectors are a genius idea, second thought, if only the smoke detectors could put out small fires or at least text us and the Fd, third thought: is anyone home/asleep, are there pets at home…
There are smoke detector systems that will notify you and the monitoring company and the company will call the fire department for you.
sprlinklers put fires out... and yeah new ones like the nest protect do alert you in the app when it detects smoke or other alarms.
You can hear dogs barking cuz they hear the alarms from outside. Always pay attention to your animals
That loud pop at 7:43 was that some sort of sprinkler system popping off? Shortly after that the fire was out it looks like?
I'm guessing electrical or an electrical device as the cause. Scary how fast the smoke builds up. Thank God for smoke alarms. Never take a alarm sound off lightly. Even if you can't see it. Electrical fires and known for traveling inside walls floors and attic spaces. By the time you see the flames burning through it is more than likely already well involved. If you hear the alarm or alarms and smell smoke get your family and you out.
Do you see a burnt humidifier at the end? I asked the poster of the video and they said that was the culprit that caught fire.
@@jayasmrmore3687 no but that's scary. That's exactly why I shut off All non essential electronics when going to sleep or whatever I leave.
@@shawndubay4050 I think there is a short version of this video in which you see the burnt humidifier. I agree though to keep things turned off or low especially when not home or sleeping. I also keep a fire extinguisher in my car and might choose to keep a few in my house.
@@jayasmrmore3687 that is a great idea. I have four in the house two on the top floor and two on the bottom floor and thank God that I had them. My neighbors car caught fire under the hood BIG FIRE. Grabbed one of the extinguishers and was able to put the fire out. The flames were taller than the fully open hood and the middle sized extinguisher put it completely out.
@@shawndubay4050 yup. I almost have to use mine once I saw a car smoking but I saw the fire department had been called and was only about a block away from reaching so they told me that they have it taken care of. One time I saw smoke on a couple of vehicles but they just had a transmission that went out from what they told me and that they will get towed. But yes you never know when you will need one.
videos like this are why I always unplug everything if im not using it.....
Hello i would like to use your Video for a lecture. Are you the owner of the rights of the Video and can we find a agreement That i can use your Video.
I am the owner and I am sure we can come to an agreement
Now I see why they say stay low because the smoke rises. This is scary to see happening
What happened towards the end there?
My house has almost caught on fire twice. First time it was the sump pump in the basement. Called the fire department as I have a very good sense of smell and I knew I smelled burning wires and plastic. They found the cause and we got the old sump pump replaced. Shit was throwing sparks all over the place when they found the cause; which could have easily burnt the house down.
Second time was a few months ago when I smelled burning metal. My gf didnt smell it until about 20 min after I did. I ran all over the house and everywhere trying to find the source of the smell. Then she screamed, FIRE FIRE!!!!! The couch had just started to ignite and the plug for multiple plugs was under the couch and just started to catch it on fire. I busted out the fire extinguisher and put it out immediately and threw the smoldering plug out onto the sidewalk. She fucking spilled salsa onto the plug without knowing it and it caught on fire.
Anyways, point being, always be fucking aware and never keep stupid ass plugs in places where one could easily spill shit onto them. I've always been mega afraid of my house catching on fire and often look for things that could easily ignite. But no matter how careful you are, you could still get fucked and that scares the shit out of me.
Wow.
Thank God you were home and have a good nose and fire extinguisher.
Check to see if your electric panel is a Federal Pacific.. which usually don't trip off when they are supposed to. If you do, have it changed out immediately!!
If not, I'm surprised because both instances should have tripped the breaker.
I am an electrician and I've seen this too many times.. they don't make these panels any more and the company has had so many law suits.
That's a good reminder, thanks. We have those damn things everywhere.
And that kids is why you stay low in a house fire hot air rises
THIS IS WHY YOU SHOULD TEST YOUR SMOKE ALARMS EVERY WEEK
Did house in US have fire alarm that connected to fire station ?
What is the cause of the fire?
I hope the dog is okay!
That is my thought too !!!!
same here! in the description it says no persons or pets were injured. thank God for that 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
so upsetting watching this and hearing the dog bark 😢
Sounds like the dog was outside
Honestly sounded like something kept popping or exploding such as ammo I feel really bad for the homeowners looked like whatever started the blaze was up the staircase and it spreaded fast at least the whole house didn't burn
The exploding items were probably compressed air cans in the kitchen, they're used for cleaning products as well as some grocery items.
Body spray,antiperspirant,various cleaning products, wood, in Australia armo/guns, plastic toy pellets, coins, air fresheners spray, electric equipment, can all cause knock you said.
Was there a dog in there please tell me know?
Good time to get a Professional Fire Alarm System installed in your home, Security Companies such as Vivint can monitor them . Crawl onto the floor because that’s going to help you keep from getting smoke inhalation, also cover your mouth and nose with a cloth, feel the doors before opening them, My Grandfather was a Lieutenant Fireman. 👨🚒
Wonder if this is what it looks like with long time as a smoker?
Electrical fires always make paranoid. I went to school for residential electrical construction and know how easy it can be for something to happen. Hell we had a machine at the school that started smoking had to hit the emergency shutoff
This is why it's good to have cameras but glad everyone made it out okay! Smoke alarms save lives!
7:46 this view is particularly handy. Now I fully understand why they say it is best to get low to the ground in a fire. I know it’s obvious in that heat rises and all of that. But looking at this you can see exactly where all the smoke heads and where it takes a while to go.
Huge gap at the bottom. Hopefully it’ll never be advice that comes in handy.
The smoke alarms in this home is from before 1996 when NFPA required the 3 beep pattern for fire evacuation. So it’s very likely if they were AC powered they didn’t have battery backup. Scary to think about. Change your smoke alarms every 10 years!!
The glow and smoke man, thats scary
Not what I expected... thought it would be a full fire.
4:40 smoke alarm
9:30 fire begins to fade
10:45 smoke alarms turn off.
This has scared me so bad.
Shows how when you need to escape a fire. You stay low
Our neighbor's house burned down last night. Smoke detectors saved their lives.
So sad. Hope they got all back plus some.
What started it
Very very sad😢
U can really start to see the glow of it at 4:31. Terrifying
me watching this late at night as if fires arent one of my biggest fears
I had a dryer fire once. The training that smoke goes up and air low is clear is 100% right. Trust me been there done that.
I wish I could have smoke alarms and carbon monoxide detectors in my house. Unfortunately my crazy mom took them all down cuz she refused to change the batteries in them. I have found one but I think the rest are gone. Someone had said sometimes fire stations give them out or will help you install them but I don't think my mother will allow that. I am certain this house will burn to the ground, it's not safe at all, many electrical problems. I live in constant fear of fire. My mother has set the kitchen on fire and burns many things, she just leaves things cooking on the stove/oven and walks away to watch tv, can't smell when things are burning. My room is above the kitchen so I can smell when things are cooking/burning, I go downstairs to oblivious mother and smoke filled kitchen often.
Show her this video
Tell your mother that: You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. Not replacing smoke detector batteries is definitely playing a stupid game. She's essentially gambling with her life.
At least have a plan to get if (or more likely when) a fire breaks out that you know immediately where to go. And maybe invest in a fireproof safe box, so if there’s a fire then at least a couple of valuables/important documents will be safe.
Go get some and put them somewhere she might not notice them. Or just tell her to f___ off because you don't want to die in a fire. They do make a special one for kitchens that won't go off just from cooking - maybe that's what you need. It's a photoelectric smoke detector. Stay safe 🙏
Oh also: they make detectors that have a 10 year internal battery now. No 9V battery to change every year. Maybe that would help?
Is the dog ok
What I don't get is why the smoke alarm in the house Stopped Working/Chirping after just a couple of minutes. Also, I Swear at some point in this during the 1st 4 minutes or so, I was hearing what to me sounded like sirens from an emergency vehicle, that I instantly took to be fire truck sirens rushing to the scene of this house, to save the day, now was I just losing it or did I actually hear that on here, and was that maybe another totally different emergency vehicle going to a completely different situation altogether, seems strange though, I mean what are the chances of two events going on within the same area, at around the same time.
Some tend to do that during a fire, unsure if its a feature or just a function type of thing. Worth a google search thats for sure
Their definitely a bunch of very old alarms
It depends one whether it’s run on battery only or if it’s hardwired. If it’s hardwired the sensor might’ve gotten confused. The circuit for the alarms is typically in a central location or somewhere that’s easy to access for repairs. That also looks like an older model alarm. So the sensor may not work as well as it could anymore.
A few things can happen to cause them to go off. If they are tied to an alarm company the company can remotely turn them off and/or reset them, then wait to see if they come back on to see if it was an anomaly. They will only turn them on once they confirm no one is at home. Second sometimes the detectors will turn on but if the air system kicks on blowing smoke away from the detector it will shut off until it has enough smoke to reactivate. Third if the detectors are damaged by the fire or lose power with no battery backup they will shut off. But after them being shut off a second time I’m guessing these were tied to an alarm company that had confirmation the home was unoccupied.
I hope the poor dog 🐕 isn't in the house. 😢
Why did the smoke alarm stop????
Maybe it overheated due to the hot smoke
What was that??? Was it a window shattering from the intense heat or was that your neighbor that broke the window? 7:45
My guess is the FD? Breaking the window to access the fire? You see the glow go out not long after.
@@JJGeneral1 i work on the fire department and as a firefighter, we would most likely come inside to make sure there are no damages to the rest of the house and make sure everything is secure and all smoke and fire is gone through the house
@@JuneBug468 well yeah, but you do see the camera cuts between the smoke filled and then no smoke, right? The time cut. What do you think happened in that time?
Did the fire go out on it's own? I didn't see any fireman breaking in.
No. House fires dont just go out on their own. The smoke obscured your view of the flames being reflected off the wall. The fire is still burning in there.
3 smoke alarms. Neighbors hello?!?#
3:35 Please tell me the dog I hear wasn't in danger.
Wow 😮
I had to take down 2 smoke detectors the other night, and replaced the battery for one of them, but it doesn't seem to go on or turn on when I push buttons. The other is out as well because I don't have that square kind of battery. Don't know what to do
I just learned recently that many smoke alarms have a 10 year life for the smoke detection capability, and can’t be safely used past that point, even with fresh batteries. I had one that would not stop beeping, even with known good batteries installed correctly. It had hit its 10 year limit.
@tomedmonson501 The guy that came to fix the issue noticed that they were from 2011!!! Thankfully he had new ones to replace them with!
what was that bursting sprinkler? 7:45
Probably glass shattering as the window burst from the heat and pressure
That was the refrigerant gas blowing out of the dehumidifier after being on fire for awhile. A typical dehumidifier is just a small self contained refrigeration unit that chills the air down to near freezing then rewarms it blowing the cooled air over the condenser coil, with a bucket at the bottom to catch the water. Air is like a sponge, the warmer it is, the more water it can contain. By chilling the air, this water get's "squeezed out" and when warmed back up, the air will a lot more dry. Same effect happens in a warm house in winter if it's very cold outside, the air gets to very low RH.
DID THEY GET ALL THE PETS OUT !
Don't leave appliances an electronics running when you're not around.
Man yelling: FIRE!!! EVERBODY OUT
This is why you're more likely to be killed by the smoke than the actual fire
IS THE DOG OKAY!?
This is very sad. I hope no one or no pets were hurt .
RFD (read fked description) of video ;)
How about the people
Wow, scary
Good job there's fire alarms. The fire happened on my 30th birthday 😅
A good thing is the fire going out by itself.
Someone left a candle burning unattended 😮
What started this fire??
Someone mentioned a humidifier
it was believed to be an electrical fault with an dehumidifier
@@DwayneJohnson158❗❗DAMN THAT HUMIDIFIER❗❗
Do y’all ever read the descriptions?
@@Josb_Bluebird2143No they stupid
Did the fire go out by itself or was put out by the firies?
The door to room was partly closed so the fire ran out of oxygen and snuffed itself out
@@lifestribulations6802 Good to hear. House fires can be devastating.
@@lifestribulations6802 good to hear when stuff like that happens
@@satos1 And then there's the issue of smoke damage. Half of everything in this house is going to have to be replaced because the smell of smoke cannot be sucked out of some things.
@@lifestribulations6802 And that's why people should always have all the doors closed in case of a fire like this, ESPECIALLY when you are sleeping
Where is the dog barking from?
Y qué pasó? La casa se quemó? O llegó bomberos?
Well that was 12 minutes I’ll never get back.. gee, wonder how it ends?
This is so sad everything you've worked hard for gone in a flash.
when I was little in the early 1970's, a fire broke out at a friends house, in the parents bedroom. I happened to be walking over there to see him anyway, not knowing what was going on. as I got closer, I smelled and saw a lot of smoke around their house and heard yelling "Call the Fire Dept!" and my friend and mother were just standing outside of their bedroom window watching the fire. in shock. the father had already gone to call the fire dept on the neighbors phone, we just stood there watching in shock and I heard the TV tube explode. it was like BOOOM! but the fire dept was there pretty quick. the bedroom was gutted, and most of the house was badly smoke damaged and unlivable. so they had to live in a small mobile home on their property for about a month or two before the insurance investigation and repairs were finished. I felt so bad for them ☹
but they did get it repaired tho., and continued to live there up until the 90's
Thats what my kitchen looked like when i put a pizza on 😂
Chairs like at my home
кроме пожарной сигнализации необходимо иметь автоматическую систему пожаротушения.
This is why I don’t like crating animals when not at home. Imagine if their fur buddy was in that room crated? I understand why people do it, please don’t come at me. It’s just something to think about if you do. Maybe there should be something people can buy for the outside of their house that’s connected to the fire alarms inside. So if neighbors can’t hear them going off in your house, they’ll know to at least check around if they are sounding off outside? And always put signs on your windows and doors about the pets inside. Security systems connected to a company and/or cameras seem to be the best way to go when you have any animals that live in your house.
I don’t understand how this accident happened? But I am sorry that it did
Check your detectors start of winter and summer
5:20 smoke starts to fill the door way and you can see a orange glow on the wall.
If you're in that house you're definitely Gonna
Cough 🤒
This is a nice video and everything, but I'm going to stick with the old 'you don't have any time - get out now' scenario.
Hi from Scotland
WHAT ABOUT THE POOR DOG
So ominous, so insidious..😮