Are Filters Cheating In DBD? | Dead By Daylight Discussion

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  • @MrCoolGuyJr
    @MrCoolGuyJr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I think a lot of people instantly jump on any excuse of why they lost, so when they see something that gives the teeniest of tiny advantages they immediately go “oh, that’s why I lost, they have filters.” And this message quickly spread and is now just ingrained in the minds of a lot of players.

    • @sillysokka1130
      @sillysokka1130 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This is exactly it bro. Similar to Kaiser, I have been in top 500 in apex, masters in overwatch and I am half decent at DBD.. the amount of players who cant improve past a certain point, is because they stop looking at things they can do to improve their gameplay, and will find things to blame to explain why they lost instead. You said it so well dude! 😊

    • @eternaloverdrive1176
      @eternaloverdrive1176 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Still gives a pretty big environment on maps like midwich tho

  • @Catlover69307
    @Catlover69307 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    completely agree its like calling crosshairs cheating!

    • @thefakebanette3483
      @thefakebanette3483 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Voltar_99 Channel members get so see the videos early

    • @azurefoxbh9280
      @azurefoxbh9280 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      devs encouraged you you use it??

    • @Catlover69307
      @Catlover69307 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nickmyers3065 it’s not that big of a deal and it’s not cheating even behaviour says that maybe changing contrast and colours is more cheating but even then.

  • @Moderately_Merciless
    @Moderately_Merciless 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My rule has always been: "If you're using a 3rd-party program to give yourself an advantage not possible in the regular game; you're cheating."

  • @GutoGerbase
    @GutoGerbase 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    If you can achieve very similar results with your monitor settings, it is not cheating. It would be like: using an oLED monitor is cheating. Nope

  • @jonson116
    @jonson116 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think people that think filters are cheating are just coping. I've been playing with them in the past for around 500hours and compared to now where I dont use them anymore I gotta say theyre as you've said completly fine and dont make that big of a difference.
    The graphic settings in this game are abysmal and I'm happy we have the possibility to change that through filters.

  • @James-uw9ww
    @James-uw9ww 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I don't believe its an insanely "unfair" advantage from filters but I do believe they give an advantage. Filters allow you to see clearer, it can make certain colours stand out more (such as red glow or scratch marks). Don't get me wrong I think they are super ugly and I don't personally use them, but I still believe they give an advantage because otherwise why would anyone use them? The discussion about crosshairs (while back) being okay was wild to me, could be a cool video idea trying games as huntress with and without a crosshair and seeing if it makes a difference. I believe the devs said both are fine so is that it is, I guess my view point is they are clearly fine and not against the rules but I still believe filters give enough of an advantage for someone to make their game super ugly for the slight edge.

    • @ragabashmoon1551
      @ragabashmoon1551 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The main problem is, even if they decided its cheating, how would they stop you? They can't stop you from changing your monitor settings. They can't stop you from changing your Nvidia settings. They can't stop you from taping a crosshair to your monitor. Changing the game itself is something they can control, that's hacking the game. But filters and even a crosshair is outside the game, and therefore not something they can control, even if they wanted to. The most they could do is ban any streamers using filters or crosshair software that shows up on stream, but no developer in their right mind would ever do that.

    • @James-uw9ww
      @James-uw9ww 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ragabashmoon1551 Oh I completely agree that they will never ban it nor is it a major issue, I was just saying I do believe it gives an advantage

  • @hirammontesdeoca3826
    @hirammontesdeoca3826 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Filter (excluding accessibility options) users in DBD are not cheaters, but they'll definitely would main King K. Rool in Smash.

    • @Cedisium
      @Cedisium 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i don't play smash but i can confirm i have an unhealthy lust for King K. Rool 🥵

  • @Dwoppin
    @Dwoppin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I believe filters do give you an advantage over the normal filter, but that's just because the normal filter blows. They need to brighten scratchmarks by 50% and have them get darker the longer they're active. It's SO hard to see scratch marks in tall grass maps

  • @ScytheIX
    @ScytheIX 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Some people like to argue that "anything that gives an advantage = cheating".
    If one side brings meta and the other doesn't, the side that does is at an advantage, too. Are meta perks/items cheating too then?
    It is a reoccurring theme though. If I have to "cheat" in the eyes of biased folk so that I can actually see what I'm doing/what's going on, so be it.
    A shader doesn't make you a god at the game. Cheats though? They arguably do.
    But why complain about the rise of cheaters, if one can complain about someone having slightly brighter scratchmarks, right?
    Why complain about the horrible map colors, if you can complain about someone counteracting bad design choices that shouldn't have been made by the dev/design teams to begin with?
    Why complain about the horrible game pacing, if you can just complain about the aura reading build killer that saw you crouching in a bush, because they got their brightness turned up a little and your Distortion didn't do jackshit?
    At this point we are fighting a losing battle. If little Timmy with 120 hours in the game says that it's cheating, it surely is. Can't argue with the logic there.
    According to them I should win 100% of my games, because I'm obviously cheating. Funny how in reality I rarely win my games.
    (This is mostly sarcastic, if people haven't noticed.)

  • @V_Urizen
    @V_Urizen 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    when i play killer sometimes its hard for me to see scratch marks they r not red enough for me and still i dont like to use reshade i also dont like to turn the volume up to hear survivors cause by doing so everything else like chase music and ambiance will also turn up and change display settings cause i am bad in terms of computer things and dont know what could work best for me .. i wish bhvr could implement something in game to improve sound and graphic settings for people like me who r just an andy that doesnt know how to use a pc xD just launch the game and play

    • @lucasasa6831
      @lucasasa6831 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      you could use Audio normalization. This makes very loud noises quieter and silentish noieses (like footsteps) louder. Im doing this with razer Synapse cuz i have da razer headset. but there are different ways to normalize audio

    • @AndOK-qy2tv
      @AndOK-qy2tv 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      To summarize: you know all the ways to fix you problem but you’re too lazy to do so and you want the developers to solve your problem you could just solve with a little bit of effort.

    • @V_Urizen
      @V_Urizen 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AndOK-qy2tv u r right but trust me i barely can use my phone or my computer i dont understand what settings should i change and stuf or should i download a certain app or what exactly i must always see on youtube and most of the time i couldnt solve my problem especially the hearing thing and my english is not perfect its not all about laziness i think i am dumber than average person xdd thats why i wish there is more simple ways in game ,there is few vedios on yt and its all about reshade or invidea thingy thats it

  • @Shiokishisan
    @Shiokishisan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    First take before watching it:
    I used to say they are. Know i would say "while it does give you an advantage, it certainly isnt enough to help you being ridiculously good when ur usually bad at the game". Just like for example crosshairs (that i use(d) on certain characters as an example, HOW DARE I)
    But yes, some filters are so extreme that they hurt. And it just starts to get ridiculous when those people tell you that its for the optic.
    Edits while watching:
    5:28 i see hardware gaps being a thing but an old tv will not be the reason for someones losses. pc vs console will make a difference (certain techs not working, max fps difference, etc) but i think thats about as big as the differences get

  • @BrightWulph
    @BrightWulph 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As someone who's become light sensitive in my old age, I have my monitor dim after a certain hour or turn on the blue light filter.
    And because I'm old, and an idiot, I often forget to turn this filter off before I play DbD so everything becomes a very crushing black that I can't see anything.
    Which causes me to use a brightness filter through NVidia just so I can see what I'm doing.

  • @Ronin-ou2bu
    @Ronin-ou2bu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And the end of the day its a workaround the lack of visual options in dbd, things that have been standart in most games. so no its not cheating. it actually makes the game playable to some ppl and that's fine. i just hope we actually get more settings in game to help with this, like how long it took a fov slider to come

  • @FungiGamer
    @FungiGamer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why do they not just add a contrast filter in game? Why do I have to download some shady file on some random website just to be able to see the game?

  • @wazapxd565
    @wazapxd565 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    People act like you have to go and mess with the game files to put on filters, dbd literally greenlit the geforce experience to allow filters. That along with the fact you pointed out that youve literally always been able to turn on the brightness in your tv/monitor. Instead of people arguing to take away just give console the same settings. Being able to see better helps both sides not just one, as well as people who cant see due to a medical situation or the envionment theyre in.

  • @AlsoMeowskivich
    @AlsoMeowskivich 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "He cheated, officer! He used his eyes!"

  • @callumlong1521
    @callumlong1521 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Filters are fine unless they're purposely used to counter a killers power, like the dredge.

    • @pimpalertpimpalert2447
      @pimpalertpimpalert2447 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      filters do not change nightfall it only makes the area you can see brighter but doesnt make you see further

  • @arandoml0gan117
    @arandoml0gan117 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Use the same TV that I used for the Wi U. It has the old red white and yellow plug ins in the back

  • @rushingtide1710
    @rushingtide1710 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Personally, I think any time you tamper with files and gain an advantage, it's cheating. The filters are not in game, you have to tamper with the game actively, and it gives you a visual change to what is available in game. If it's a setting in the base game/irl that you alter to gain an advantage, you're just using the tools given to you (such as the colour blindness modes).

  • @OMGWTFROFLCOPTERBBQ
    @OMGWTFROFLCOPTERBBQ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Short answer: If you are using it to make a very dark game easier to see, whether for comfort or due to personal physical issues? No.
    If you are using it specifically for an unfair advantage, or program it to GIVE an unfair advantage? Yes.

  • @royalbridge
    @royalbridge 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well said my man. I got filters literally 1 month after starting playing because it’s so easy to install

  • @Lusius8879
    @Lusius8879 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    my opinion is very simple; have the devs ever either taken action against or made a statement negatively about it?
    if yes? --> cheating
    if no? --> fair game
    I do not recall the devs EVER taking action against filters, nor saying it isn't allowed. so to me, it's fine. (yet for some reason they took action against custom perk icons?)

  • @ItzYourValentine
    @ItzYourValentine 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    imo it’s not cheating and honestly i wish dbd would update its graphics because i can’t go back. its actually so depressing.

  • @TheMango999
    @TheMango999 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As long as people using filters admit that they use them for the advantages they give i'm cool with it. What makes me cringe is when people use excuses like "game looks better this way", like they did when stretched res was still a thing. It's as if they are ashamed of it or something. Also I don't understand the streamers/content creators who use filters, just seems like it would cause more trouble than worth, seeing as some troll can just disregard your skill in game as "cheating".

  • @NotTThunderBird
    @NotTThunderBird 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    EAC whitelisted Reshade till it's not it is not cheating.

  • @chxlsxasmilx
    @chxlsxasmilx 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    To be fair, the only people complaining are probably the ones who can’t use the filters or don’t know how to turn their monitor brightness up.

  • @cristian3107
    @cristian3107 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use the game mode filter on my monitor, which turns up the sharpness, brightness to a point where you can easily identify targets faster. Nvidia filters apparently dont work on dbd on my end so i had to resort to that i dunno. Even so, its not really cheating since you can literally do that in every game anyway regardless. The tools are there, might as well use em because i sure as hell i'm not gonna play to barely see shit

  • @ragabashmoon1551
    @ragabashmoon1551 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think it's one of those cases where it's reasonable to an extent, but it does become cheating when players purposely set their filters to allow them to see in a way that the developers did not intend. Is it something the developers can do anything about? No, they can't. However if you are turning your brightness and gamma up or changing saturation and colors so much that you are able to see for example Midwich as a well-lit area, then yes that's technically cheating. It's supposed to be kind of dark and hard to see.

  • @gtrgaming2227
    @gtrgaming2227 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its only unfair against trapper. Some of these filters make it impossible to step in a trap unless you’re brain dead.

  • @Korpse_Klaunz
    @Korpse_Klaunz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Valid Video as ever even tho I both, agree and disagree, filters as a whole aren’t cheating for sure, the bright ugly ones, and especially that GAWD awful NEON GREEN everywhere one (you know it) isn’t cheating, but ofc there’s always those few exceptions which in my opinion are kinda iffy, like ones where everything is like the Sin City Movies, everything Grey except overly saturated red or could make vault yellow tape neon bright you might as well have five perks, kinda push the limit but for most regular cosmetics filters used for atmospheric, more pretty are fine, but that’s just me

  • @oldbadwolf4074
    @oldbadwolf4074 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I sense a lot more comments of people giving their own takes coming.
    so treat it as sanity regenaration spot lol
    your content is great and i love watching each of your new releases.
    I have stopped playing dbd months ago, best decision in my life. but your channel is one of few that i still watch since its just so nice to watch those videos. keep up the good work :)

  • @aroace7913
    @aroace7913 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    They are not, it be the same as saying turining up the volume to hear survivers easier.

  • @thefakebanette3483
    @thefakebanette3483 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When I tell the people that say it's cheating I make my game darker to help me see they are never sure how to respond

  • @Acehealer829
    @Acehealer829 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People who complain about filters are just making up excuses about why they lost. If filters are cheating, does that mean people with expensive monitors with built in filters + crosshairs cheating? What about people who play at a higher FPS?

  • @MurkyTheWolf
    @MurkyTheWolf 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here is my arguments for why it's ridiculous to call filters cheating
    A colorblind person that has red/green colorblindness (Deuteranomaly) is using a filter to change the Red colors to something they can perceive better, let's say a blue. So since they changed their colors to be blue instead of red, which is easier for them to see are they cheating? Most people would say they are at a disadvantage anyway since they have a disability and cannot see red so using filters is fine. Now what they might not realize is every single humans vision is slightly different, even if two people are both "color sighted" they might perceive colors differently. Some people might be able to naturally see red better than others.
    Now let's take someone who has "normal color vision". If they use a filter to make the Reds brighter how is this any different than the colorblind person changing the Blue to a Red. All it does is make it more easy to see, just as the colorblind person did. Why should it only be someone with a disability that is able to use something that makes accessibility/perception easier, shouldn't anyone be able to make the game more accessible, even if they do have "perfect vision"? If you think a colorblind person isn't cheating using it then you have to conceit the argument that someone with "normal color vision" should also be allowed to use this.
    A third part of my argument is a hardware argument. EVERY monitor on this planet is ever so slightly different in color, sometimes this can actually even be drastic. So now would you make the argument that using a monitor that naturally has more vibrant Red colors is cheating? If you do think it is then how would you even regulate that? It is nearly impossible to standardize colors digitally for any monitor/screen. If you want a good video that explains this on this Linus Tech Tips made a video on the Pantone Plus Plastic Standard Chips and how they set the standard for color physically since on a monitor colors are not the same.

  • @lillipton8838
    @lillipton8838 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This game doesn't have a brightness slider and basic graphics settings like every other game. It took them 7 years to add an fov slider, it took them 6 years to basic graphical settings. Also, on the topic of an fov slider, this whole discussion about filters reminds about survivor players not wanting an fov slider because "it would give an advantage" and that "the killers fov is supposed to be low". Yes, a higher fov gives a slight advantage over a smaller fov, but an fov slider is the most basic thing in first person games, even rocket league has it. Yes, the game started as a hide and seek game and hiding was a major part, but those times are far gone, nobody cares about it anymore. Also, is a person who changes the settings in nvidia control pannel, an app that literally comes installed with your pc that has an nvidia graphics card cheating?

  • @WeskintimeASVAL679-89
    @WeskintimeASVAL679-89 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tldr - No

  • @Dipping_Eggs
    @Dipping_Eggs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't even play with a monitor (I am always blindfolded while playing dbd) so yeah if you play with a monitor you're cheating

  • @Raccuy
    @Raccuy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:05 I get what you're saying and very cool video, but when you spear someone you are supposed to walk backwards while reeling them, you will hit themm 100% of the times if they don't damage chain with enviroment

  • @EmberTsuji
    @EmberTsuji 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It ain't cheating to my eyes
    Like comon, anybody can have filters/if not filters, can tweak monitor/screen settings
    Saying its cheats is like you complain about killers using a meme/meta build WHILE YOU use meta
    C'mon now its a stupid thinking method
    Plus the game (to me at least) the game is darker then survivor's side
    i got called a cheater awhile back WHILE PLAYING WELL WITH MY MAIN(legion)
    brother why thats stupid. At least we are able to be on somewhat on even ground

    • @EmberTsuji
      @EmberTsuji 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      AND AGAIN
      The devs (Behaviour) LITERALLY whitelisted damn filters jeesus, use your brain

  • @ShadySir162
    @ShadySir162 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dont let tru3 see this

  • @2bstiff584
    @2bstiff584 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it depends if u got the scratch marks shining or glowing to see them real easy yes. using them to change icons no

  • @AndOK-qy2tv
    @AndOK-qy2tv 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s just like stretch res, it’s scummy and ugly but not exactly cheating. Anyone who does it *can* but if you really need a crutch THAT niece to play the game don’t expect to be respected.

  • @Zakon673
    @Zakon673 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The most unconstructive conversation I've ever had on reddit was someone VEHEMENTLY arguing with me that filters are cheating. Paragraphs of text. And my replies were just short posts laughing at them and making fun of them. I'm not normally like that but I couldn't believe someone was this worked up over filters.

  • @azurefoxbh9280
    @azurefoxbh9280 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    by your own definition this is cheating?? something unintended by the devs that the other team cant have access to unless they download a third-party client (nvida in this case) that creates an unfair advantage. trapper is already weak his traps don't need to be spotted even easier than they already are

    • @KaiserDaGaemer
      @KaiserDaGaemer  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You have access to the same settings through TV and Monitor options built into the very device you are using to view the game. So everyone DOES have access to these. Pay attention

  • @deinodan
    @deinodan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you use comp filters youre cringe lil stinker but if u use them to make the game prettier then thats fine. I like to win but i aint gonna break my back doing so and I find filters to be unesscary and just kinda eye rolling

  • @sionathan7718
    @sionathan7718 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    filters for me are def a form of cheating, the same way people who play FPS set all of their settings down in order to maximize their framerate to gain an advantage but the difference between framerate and filters is the fact that its not intended for people to brighten their screens and make colors pop more giving an unfair advantage to those who dont use them, the difference between a maxed out filter surv vs vanilla surv on macmillan is insane it goes from a dark map thats made for horror to a bright colored fun house

  • @SkaterBlades
    @SkaterBlades 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It depends. Filters that make everything look brighter and more vibrant, definitely cheating. Colourblind filters, not really

  • @eternaloverdrive1176
    @eternaloverdrive1176 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's cheating gg

  • @ahrivixen5594
    @ahrivixen5594 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    for filters its a messy thing, i mean people abuse filters to get an advantage so in a sense it kinda is cheating, especially when most people have to use 3rd party programs to use it to use filters,
    however at the same time for instance my friend wants to use filters because of motion blur and bhvr not having an option to turn it off,
    for instance someone having filters to make tracking red things more vibrant, that would make tracking so much easier if u use filters compared to the base game, so much so that it would be an advantage *shrugs*