I mean, this man has written my favourite masterpieces ever, and he's dropping knowledge everywhere in this interview, but all I can think is "what shampoo is Steven using?"
I think you gravely underestimate how many mindless drones are out there, and how many of them are willing to ostracize those who readily take shots at their collective un-intelligence.
I'm the opposite of being afraid when it comes to this stuff. I'm blunt as a hammer and I'm of the mindset that if someone can't handle something I have to say, and if they can't keep something objective, they're not worth being around in the first place. The problem is, I constantly have to associate with people who react quite aggressively to those who have different opinions than them. Not my friends, but those I work with, and have to deal with on a daily basis, for hours on end. The less you share in common with them, the harder life gets; the less willing they are to help you out when you really, really need it, and the less willing they are to network with you. It can literally cost you your career. So for me it's less fear and more common sense. I have, however, spoken with some people who do find it intimidating to simply say what they think about pop music. That's where the initial comment came from. Not necessarily saying it's good to be afraid about criticizing pop; just stating an anecdote.
Literally just started listening to Porcupine Tree today. Steven Wilson is a very smart, likeable, humble guy, considering he's regarded as a Prog God in some quarters. Not sure if I'm gonna be a fan of PT, maybe I'll check out his solo stuff.
"I can't play fast and I can't play clever stuff". The modesty is admirable. SW's guitar playing is some of the most technically perfect work I've ever seen or heard. During the live shows on the last tour he made Dave Kilminster look like a hack.
That was exactly what I was saying to myself. When Steven played guitar solo in "Don't hate me" I was just stunned and Dave was not as good as for me for this band. No hate. You know what I mean.
I miss Porcupine Tree, especially since I never got to see them live. SW can and should do whatever makes sense to him, but it's not unusual to find the quality of output from a long-term collaboration exceeding an artists solo efforts, with Peter Gabriel being a case in point in my view.
However I cannot understand liking the TFF Sowing the Seeds more than their prior or first two albums, esp Songs From the Big Chair which I have loved always since it came out!
steven is really intelligent and all but man come on! theres still great new and legitimately fresh music coming out today! stuff i know ive never heard before! go check out a band called troldhaugen and try to tell me you've heard a band mix folk metal with prog and 80's pop like that before. or even thank you, scientist! those guys are pushing boundaries!
Although I agree with Steven, the word "pop" which he used, originally came from Andy Warhol's concept of "pop-art". So it doesn't mean "popular music". That's why all the bands he's talking about are pop in the way Andy Warhol described it.
"The term "pop song" was first recorded as being used in 1926, in the sense of a piece of music "having popular appeal".[10] Hatch and Millward indicate that many events in the history of recording in the 1920s can be seen as the birth of the modern pop music industry, including in country, blues and hillbilly music.[11]" "According to the website of The New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians, called Grove Music Online, the term "pop music" "originated in Britain in the mid-1950s as a description for rock and roll and the new youth music styles that it influenced".[2] The Oxford Dictionary of Music states that while pop's "earlier meaning meant concerts appealing to a wide audience ... since the late 1950s, however, pop has had the special meaning of non-classical mus[ic], usually in the form of songs, performed by such artists as the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, ABBA, etc".[12] Grove Music Online also states that "... in the early 1960s, [the term] 'pop music' competed terminologically with beat music [in England], while in the USA its coverage overlapped (as it still does) with that of 'rock and roll'".[2]"
I guess it was Stock Aitken Waterman. Some of them are the ones who have produced the songs with singers like Rick Astley, Dead or Alive or Kylie Minogue on United Kingdom. You can watch Embarrassing 80's - Stock, Aitken & Waterman on TH-cam.
I mean, this man has written my favourite masterpieces ever, and he's dropping knowledge everywhere in this interview, but all I can think is "what shampoo is Steven using?"
steven wilson album is breath of fresh air
New Steven Wilson Album equals new Steven Wilson interview on Face Culture. Always nicely done.
I can't get over how he looks 19 years old.
Steven Wilson makes ear chocolate
Great interview - This guy on face culture is always well researched, asks interesting questions and really listens to the answer.
6:00 Steven says what everyone wants to say but is too afraid to say... A++.
Alex I say that everyday to people. The only sad part is that they don't know any better.
I think you gravely underestimate how many mindless drones are out there, and how many of them are willing to ostracize those who readily take shots at their collective un-intelligence.
I'm the opposite of being afraid when it comes to this stuff. I'm blunt as a hammer and I'm of the mindset that if someone can't handle something I have to say, and if they can't keep something objective, they're not worth being around in the first place. The problem is, I constantly have to associate with people who react quite aggressively to those who have different opinions than them. Not my friends, but those I work with, and have to deal with on a daily basis, for hours on end. The less you share in common with them, the harder life gets; the less willing they are to help you out when you really, really need it, and the less willing they are to network with you. It can literally cost you your career. So for me it's less fear and more common sense. I have, however, spoken with some people who do find it intimidating to simply say what they think about pop music. That's where the initial comment came from. Not necessarily saying it's good to be afraid about criticizing pop; just stating an anecdote.
Literally just started listening to Porcupine Tree today. Steven Wilson is a very smart, likeable, humble guy, considering he's regarded as a Prog God in some quarters. Not sure if I'm gonna be a fan of PT, maybe I'll check out his solo stuff.
I fucking love this guy!... He's also the nicest person in the world!
"I can't play fast and I can't play clever stuff". The modesty is admirable. SW's guitar playing is some of the most technically perfect work I've ever seen or heard. During the live shows on the last tour he made Dave Kilminster look like a hack.
That was exactly what I was saying to myself. When Steven played guitar solo in "Don't hate me" I was just stunned and Dave was not as good as for me for this band. No hate. You know what I mean.
He is so adept at descriptions of music!
I was definitely the first guy in my school to have a CD player. May 1985.
nice interview
Well Steven you succeeded, up there with TFF, Kate and Peter IMO
I miss Porcupine Tree, especially since I never got to see them live. SW can and should do whatever makes sense to him, but it's not unusual to find the quality of output from a long-term collaboration exceeding an artists solo efforts, with Peter Gabriel being a case in point in my view.
Quick correction, maybe : I believe "The Colour of Spring" and "So" were released in 1986.
correct on both counts!
The sybillance in the audio is killing me.
However I cannot understand liking the TFF Sowing the Seeds more than their prior or first two albums, esp Songs From the Big Chair which I have loved always since it came out!
He's godlike!
steven is really intelligent and all but man come on! theres still great new and legitimately fresh music coming out today! stuff i know ive never heard before! go check out a band called troldhaugen and try to tell me you've heard a band mix folk metal with prog and 80's pop like that before. or even thank you, scientist! those guys are pushing boundaries!
Although I agree with Steven, the word "pop" which he used, originally came from Andy Warhol's concept of "pop-art". So it doesn't mean "popular music". That's why all the bands he's talking about are pop in the way Andy Warhol described it.
"The term "pop song" was first recorded as being used in 1926, in the sense of a piece of music "having popular appeal".[10] Hatch and Millward indicate that many events in the history of recording in the 1920s can be seen as the birth of the modern pop music industry, including in country, blues and hillbilly music.[11]"
"According to the website of The New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians, called Grove Music Online, the term "pop music" "originated in Britain in the mid-1950s as a description for rock and roll and the new youth music styles that it influenced".[2] The Oxford Dictionary of Music states that while pop's "earlier meaning meant concerts appealing to a wide audience ... since the late 1950s, however, pop has had the special meaning of non-classical mus[ic], usually in the form of songs, performed by such artists as the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, ABBA, etc".[12] Grove Music Online also states that "... in the early 1960s, [the term] 'pop music' competed terminologically with beat music [in England], while in the USA its coverage overlapped (as it still does) with that of 'rock and roll'".[2]"
5:47 What was that
I guess it was Stock Aitken Waterman. Some of them are the ones who have produced the songs with singers like Rick Astley, Dead or Alive or Kylie Minogue on United Kingdom. You can watch Embarrassing 80's - Stock, Aitken & Waterman on TH-cam.
Sounds like While My Guitar Gently Weeps, IMHO
This interviewer sounds Dutch.
how can some one so young looking talk about 80s and 70s
not sure about the merits of SAW over modern pop music. although I don't care much for that argument.
The questions are so stupid and repetitive. Terrible.
Nonsense!!!