Even if a few schools are able to leave the ACC that doesn’t mean it will fold. With the three recent additions the conference should remain viable. As a Tech fan I’d prefer to stay in the ACC. The B12 is a lateral move at best. Personally, I think it is a step down.
@@CouzsCornerSports Even if the ACC "just" lost FSU and CLEMSON, the new BIG12 would be a step down on all material factors, especially from the perspective of the remaining ACC schools. The question isn't BIG12 interest but rather mutual interest.
@@CouzsCornerSports BTW Couz... If you represent WVU's point of view when comparing the new BIG12 vs, the future ACC presented in this scenario, WVU should stay in the new BIG12. That suggests WVU putting little to no value in academic association and non-revenue sports.
Thanks for digging into this topic. I would have liked to see a Big 12 map, just to help visualize the potential footprint changes, as you discussed different additions. It would help me understand the geography of the rivalries.
I would love it if Syracuse and WVU were in the same conference again. The thing that is really screwed up about the modern-day college football climate is that, if the B12 brought in Pitt, VT, Louisville, and Syracuse, WVU would be thrilled, but would also move to the SEC or B10 in a heartbeat, if offered.
@@CouzsCornerSportsI think that might happen in the future where Pitt, Cincinnati, WVU, UVA, VaTech, UNC, NCST, & Clemson end up in the SEC. BiG1O grabs FSU, Miami, GT and then nabs Utah and Arizona and leaves a spot open for Notre Dame. That’s what I think what will happen most likely but hopefully it won’t and no one else is grabbed from the Big12 and only SEC and BiG10 grab a total of 7 schools between them and ACC is mainly intact and backfill as I said a previous stand alone comment here. If the SEC & BiG10 go hunting in the Big12 again, then it becomes survival of the fittest and if can lure ACC schools or candidates to join the Big12 before ACC, so be it.
@@michaelwall3393 The SEC is going to expand outside of the greater Southeast to take two schools (PITT & CINCY) in which the B1G has the dominant flagship?
Adding Syracuse, Georgia Tech, Pittsburgh and Louisville would add some much needed historical teams to the conference. Adds several national titles and Heismans.
In this scenario considering we can only take 4, then my preference would be Virginia Tech, Louisville, Georgia Tech (over Pitt) and UConn (over Syracuse) when LOCATION & PERFORMANCE are the priority.
I would like GT, Syracuse, and Lousiville. For Pitt I'd prefer them over WVU any day but not sure if I want both, but I guess almost defensive at that point you have to. Depending on how it shakes out I think NC St, VT, Miami (in no order) are the top 3 choices if an option, and if you can get those 3 and only take 1 more GT makes sense
The better question is what eastern BIG12 members should consider moving to a future rebuilding ACC, as there won't be a material difference in payouts.
@@CouzsCornerSports Again, the BIG12 has already lost its top 6 (net). Review the then BIG12 when it signed its ~$30M per deal and also consider that ESPN sees all P5 remainders with that fungible media value per the BIG12's pro rata clause.
@@tarheel7460 Again, every conference doesn't have a contract past a certain date. There's no reason to believe that ESPN won't renew (assuming there is a unilateral option). UNC will be fine. An ACC death just puts the new BIG12 deeper in the grave.
Actually, Syracuse would bring in the NYC fans tv! NYC has one of the largest Syracuse alumni population in the country. For football, they trail only Notre Dame. They lead the market in college basketball. Syracuse has invested into athletics again, maybe a little too late, but, we have an Chancellor and AD who (kind of) understands the value of athletics. Major renovations to the Dome, new football and athletics training facilities and over raised over $50m to be added to NIL funds. Football is on its way back, Top 25 recruiting class for 2024 & 2025. Probalby lose out coach in 3 years, but hopefully lays a good foundation. Coach Red has bball moving in the right direction, he far exceeded my expectations in his first year give the players left over from Coach B. Some good recruits and transfers coming in. Athletics has been revitalized at Syracuse. I would love to see Cuse in the Big XII, think they are a better fit for both basketball and football, than the ACC. They have the viewership, the academics, history and matches up very well with all current Big XII teams in all sports, major and olympics. Maybe it would also get them to restart baseball! Cuse is 3-3 with Kansas, taking 2 of the last 3, one for the NC! Tis has the making of a good basketball rivalry!!! How could you not want Cuse?
Couz, well done! As far as the blue blood, Georgia Tach has won 4 national titles, and was a founding member of the SEC. That individual college trophy that they hand out every year was named after Georgia Tech coach John Heisman. So yeah, they are a blue blood. Syracuse is slightly less storied with only 1 national title, but they do have 4 players and 3 coaches in the College Football Hall of Fame, and 8 more in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Names that you might have heard include: Ernie Davis, Jim Brown, Art Monk, Marvin Harrison, Larry Csonka, and Floyd Little.
Not until they have made a large attempt at Miami, Louisville…..first……then Pittsburgh /Va. Tech, NCSt…second…..then Duke…third….Syracuse, GTech…fourth and last Boston College. Need Partners for WVa. CInn, and UCF ….at least 3 … best 5….or last standing. ..can still pull a northwest play ..WSU/OSU …but only if ACC / teams are reluctant and stay with the remnants in little acc. ….wait out the remaining years to the B12 contract ! If we get shutout of Florida….we might strongly consider USF !
Couz, I'm going to do this as a if->then equation. First, the group we would want but probably can't get are Note Dame, Florida St., Clemson and North Carolina. Let's agree they are unattainable but we'll leap at the chance to get them if they were available. Next, I'll assume we could get Pitt and Louisville and should leap at the chance to get them. Solid programs in the Midwest with natural rivalries in both football and basketball. Next, I'll include Miami (FL), an in-state rival for UCF with solid football and basketball programs in a major market. That leaves one spot for five possibilities: Duke, Georgia Tech, N. Carolina St., Syracuse and Virginia Tech. IMO, Virginia will not want to come here and they aren't normally good enough at football to be considered. If Virginia and Virginia Tech have to come together, I'd rather say no to both then yes to both. Syracuse gives something the others can't which is NY State and access to NYC. N. Carolina St. and Duke give you a slice of a growing state but they're mediocre at best. With Duke, however, you add another basketball blue blood to add to our relevancy in basketball. If Miami does not come to the Big 12, I'd consider a NC State/Duke tandem as 3-4. I love Georgia Tech because it plants another flag in SEC country and Atlanta is close enough to Orlando to form a rivalry eventually with UCF but I just don't think they offer enough on the field/court to stay relevant. They're the last good option. So, to summarize - 1) Pitt, 2) Louisville, 3) Miami, 4) Syracuse although I could replace 3/4 with NC State and Duke if Miami says no.
I can see it. Because if Miami ends up in the Big 10, Ga Tech would be another school in the southeast. Syracuse would be interesting 🤔. Because maybe the ACC move was just a bad move for them. With the point you brought up. Like Pitt. Pitt likes being in the ACC and may not be thrilled exactly about possibly having to leave. But, that move to the ACC hasn't done that much for Pitt's brand. Heck..... Pitt didn't even realize how far behind WVU their facilities were until all this realignment. That's not good.
Absolutely agree, all four of the teams in your last video should be ahead of GaTech or Cuse. GaTech is sadly the fifth ranked team in the Atlanta market, per the Atlanta Journal and Constitution. UGa, Bama, FSU, and Auburn are all ahead of GaTech in Atlanta. (FYI, the FSU football stadium in Tallahassee is about 20 miles or so from the Georgia border, so FSU has also lots of fans in Southern GA, which does not include Atlanta by any means.) According to the Syracuse U web site, Cuse has 55,000 alumni in the NYC market. That is out of 21 million people. Insignificant. (By the way, as a comparison, Rutgers has more than 300,000 alumni in the NYC market and more than 40,000 undergraduate and grad students). A survey taken by the NY Times in the NYC market showed the ranking of interest in schools. Not surprisingly, Rutgers was first by a huge margin, since it is the only Division 1 football team in the market. Next was Notre Dame, then Michigan and Penn State. After them came Syracuse and UConn. Yes, Cuse was good decades ago. Is that what the Big 12 wants? How large does the Big 12 want to get? There are a lot better choices than Syracuse. GaTech is probably the better choice of the two (though not a great choice) because of academics and, as you said, maybe the Big 12 can get a little bit more excitement in Atlanta. I do not see the Big 12 moving the needle in upstate NY.
Idk, but somebody from the CRT needs to contact Tegan Moore, a true freshman SG playing for the Western Kentucky hilltoppers. Seriously!!! And he'll actually be eligible!!!
Okay I personally don’t think any ACC schools will join the Big12 before 2030 at the earliest most likely. The only ACC schools that might join are Louisville and either Pitt or Duke or Wake Forest. I foresee at least 2-3 schools headed to BiG10 and at least 2-4 schools headed to SEC. The BiG10 would probably top out at 4-5 additional schools and SEC would top out at 6-8 schools added. But I think both conferences would also consider a few schools from the Big12 as part of their plan to get to 22-24 schools a piece if is their desired size outcome. I also anticipate that if defections happen from the ACC to the SEC and BiG10, it will be in rounds. This will lead to corresponding backfilling or forward-filling, before schools leave the ACC, with top G5 candidates and the remaining PAC-2 members most likely to take place. And it not be until second round or third round of exits that the Big12 could grab a few or two schools from ACC. At that point the ACC will have filled in adequately. There is a chance that a couple of the schools that the ACC backfills or refills with could be better candidates and additions than any of the four teams I mentioned above that could potentially join the Big12. What if the SEC wants to do to the BiG10; and step in to their backyard just, as the BiG10 is trying to do in SEC territory? The SEC would add UNC, NCST, UVA, VaTech, but also add Pitt and 3 Big12 schools that are in the northern part of the conference and eastern. They would and could do that. These are the school I expect to leave ACC for the power2A4. BiG10:: GT/or/Duke FSU Miami Maybe:; Notre Dame and Stanford & Cal SEC:: UNC NCST UVA VaTech Maybe:; Pitt & Clemson plus 2-3 Big12 schools These are the backfilling schools over the next 2-10 years and not all are added at once or all period. These are just the schools that will get grabbed by ACC per approval by networks obviously, unfortunately, and not solely because of athletic and or academic performances, although it should. These schools will be all in and not just football or Olympic sports schools. And remember, this is just a list of schools that would meet the ACC standards and network standards for the most part and would make schools such as Stanford and Cal happy. But I am not saying these are all the schools of consideration and that they all will be added. No. Some of these schools will be but not all unless 9-11 schools leave the ACC in a span of 4 years or less. Top Half List Most Likely Added --------------- WazzU OzzU San Diego St Colorado St Air Force Army Navy UCONN Villanova USF Memphis Tulane Rice JMU ________________________ CCU Liberty UTSA Nevada App Store George Town Georgia St Temple Buffalo Toledo Old Dominion Marshall Ohio Assuming no one goes to the Big12 and no one leaves the Big12 in the future to either SEC or BiG10, this would be the potential probable outcome for ACC moving forward: BC UConn Syracuse Army Navy Air Force Villanova JMU Louisville Pitt Duke Wake Forest Clemson USF Tulane Memphis SMU Rice Colorado St San Diego St Stanford Cal OzzU WazzU
Again, the BIG12 has already imploded. No ACC member leaves a viable rebuild that pays within ~$10M per for the BIG12. Consider that the broadcasters valued the conference below at ~$30M per annually: IOWAST KANSAS KSTATE OKSTATE BAYLOR TXTECH TCU WVU CINCY BYU UCF HOUSTON
When that Pac 12/UT and OU thing almost happened, the Big East and Big 12 were going to merge. But basically, ESPN blocked that when they gave Texas that horrible LHN contract.
I thought that The Big East was strictly a basketball only conference after the football side of it collapsed beck when Syracuse and the rest went to the ACC
If you can you'd better....those 2 + pitt and Louisville would be a strong 20....and "IF" somehow things went bonkers and you went to 24 then you swing back west....takeover the bay area with Stanford and Cal....then the northwest for Oregon State and Washington State
Even if a few schools are able to leave the ACC that doesn’t mean it will fold. With the three recent additions the conference should remain viable. As a Tech fan I’d prefer to stay in the ACC. The B12 is a lateral move at best. Personally, I think it is a step down.
It won’t be a step down if FSU & Clemson leave. With those two in the league, though, I can see how you’d view it that way.
@@CouzsCornerSports Even if the ACC "just" lost FSU and CLEMSON, the new BIG12 would be a step down on all material factors, especially from the perspective of the remaining ACC schools.
The question isn't BIG12 interest but rather mutual interest.
@@CouzsCornerSports BTW Couz... If you represent WVU's point of view when comparing the new BIG12 vs, the future ACC presented in this scenario, WVU should stay in the new BIG12. That suggests WVU putting little to no value in academic association and non-revenue sports.
Thanks for digging into this topic. I would have liked to see a Big 12 map, just to help visualize the potential footprint changes, as you discussed different additions. It would help me understand the geography of the rivalries.
Sorry. I don’t know how to do that, or even what software to use. Lol. I’m technologically challenged. Lol
@CouzsCornerSports for a quick and dirty job ms paint could actually do the trick, just need the logos and a map image to add to the template
I would also prefer Louisville to GT. Also would like NC State
I would love it if Syracuse and WVU were in the same conference again. The thing that is really screwed up about the modern-day college football climate is that, if the B12 brought in Pitt, VT, Louisville, and Syracuse, WVU would be thrilled, but would also move to the SEC or B10 in a heartbeat, if offered.
Well said.
@@CouzsCornerSports Thanks, Couz.
@@CouzsCornerSportsI think that might happen in the future where Pitt, Cincinnati, WVU, UVA, VaTech, UNC, NCST, & Clemson end up in the SEC. BiG1O grabs FSU, Miami, GT and then nabs Utah and Arizona and leaves a spot open for Notre Dame. That’s what I think what will happen most likely but hopefully it won’t and no one else is grabbed from the Big12 and only SEC and BiG10 grab a total of 7 schools between them and ACC is mainly intact and backfill as I said a previous stand alone comment here. If the SEC & BiG10 go hunting in the Big12 again, then it becomes survival of the fittest and if can lure ACC schools or candidates to join the Big12 before ACC, so be it.
@@michaelwall3393 The SEC is going to expand outside of the greater Southeast to take two schools (PITT & CINCY) in which the B1G has the dominant flagship?
Adding Syracuse, Georgia Tech, Pittsburgh and Louisville would add some much needed historical teams to the conference. Adds several national titles and Heismans.
In this scenario considering we can only take 4, then my preference would be Virginia Tech, Louisville, Georgia Tech (over Pitt) and UConn (over Syracuse) when LOCATION & PERFORMANCE are the priority.
No. The BIG12 should wait and grab the 6 biggest schools left starting with UNC and Miami.
Louisville, probably have to take NC state, you have 2 more. Georgia Tech maybe Syracuse absolutely not
I'd rather have Stanford than either of those schools. Better academics by far, more money, better ratings and yeah Notre Dame.
After what feasible chain of events ends with UNC in the BIG12?
I would like GT, Syracuse, and Lousiville. For Pitt I'd prefer them over WVU any day but not sure if I want both, but I guess almost defensive at that point you have to. Depending on how it shakes out I think NC St, VT, Miami (in no order) are the top 3 choices if an option, and if you can get those 3 and only take 1 more GT makes sense
Why Pitt over WVU? Just curious.
The better question is what eastern BIG12 members should consider moving to a future rebuilding ACC, as there won't be a material difference in payouts.
That’s definitely a possibility, but if all the top brands leave the ACC like is anticipated, I’m not sure the payout will be the same.
@@CouzsCornerSports Again, the BIG12 has already lost its top 6 (net). Review the then BIG12 when it signed its ~$30M per deal and also consider that ESPN sees all P5 remainders with that fungible media value per the BIG12's pro rata clause.
@@tarheel7460 So dumb. Every conference doesn't have a contract past a certain date.
@@tarheel7460 Again, every conference doesn't have a contract past a certain date. There's no reason to believe that ESPN won't renew (assuming there is a unilateral option).
UNC will be fine. An ACC death just puts the new BIG12 deeper in the grave.
Either or both would be good IMO
Nc state, va Tech, Ga Tech, Louisville & UConn to replace KU
Not sure. I think the roots run deep in the ACC.
No. Florida St. Pitt. North Car. Duke
After what feasible chain of events ends with either UNC or DUKE in the BIG12?
Actually, Syracuse would bring in the NYC fans tv! NYC has one of the largest Syracuse alumni population in the country. For football, they trail only Notre Dame. They lead the market in college basketball.
Syracuse has invested into athletics again, maybe a little too late, but, we have an Chancellor and AD who (kind of) understands the value of athletics. Major renovations to the Dome, new football and athletics training facilities and over raised over $50m to be added to NIL funds.
Football is on its way back, Top 25 recruiting class for 2024 & 2025. Probalby lose out coach in 3 years, but hopefully lays a good foundation.
Coach Red has bball moving in the right direction, he far exceeded my expectations in his first year give the players left over from Coach B. Some good recruits and transfers coming in.
Athletics has been revitalized at Syracuse. I would love to see Cuse in the Big XII, think they are a better fit for both basketball and football, than the ACC. They have the viewership, the academics, history and matches up very well with all current Big XII teams in all sports, major and olympics. Maybe it would also get them to restart baseball!
Cuse is 3-3 with Kansas, taking 2 of the last 3, one for the NC! Tis has the making of a good basketball rivalry!!! How could you not want Cuse?
Great comment. I do think Cuse is an underrated brand.
GT I think is a lot better fit into the Big 12 just where it is a bridge into Atlanta. Yes, I know Atlanta is an UGA city.
Couz, well done! As far as the blue blood, Georgia Tach has won 4 national titles, and was a founding member of the SEC. That individual college trophy that they hand out every year was named after Georgia Tech coach John Heisman. So yeah, they are a blue blood.
Syracuse is slightly less storied with only 1 national title, but they do have 4 players and 3 coaches in the College Football Hall of Fame, and 8 more in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Names that you might have heard include: Ernie Davis, Jim Brown, Art Monk, Marvin Harrison, Larry Csonka, and Floyd Little.
I would not take GT or S without Pitt & VA Tech
Those two teams bring absolutely nothing to the table.
If you exclude ND, UNC, FSU, Clemson, UV & Miami who would I take first/last?
VT, NCST, PIT, Louisville, Duke, GT, SYR, BC, WF, Stanford, SMU, Cal
Not until they have made a large attempt at Miami, Louisville…..first……then Pittsburgh /Va. Tech, NCSt…second…..then Duke…third….Syracuse, GTech…fourth and last Boston College.
Need Partners for WVa. CInn, and UCF ….at least 3 … best 5….or last standing. ..can still pull a northwest play ..WSU/OSU …but only if ACC / teams are reluctant and stay with the remnants in little acc. ….wait out the remaining years to the B12 contract ! If we get shutout of Florida….we might strongly consider USF !
If 2nd Tier ACC flight risks like MIAMI, VATECH & NCSTATE remain, why would any move to the already Tier 2 BIG12?
Couz, I'm going to do this as a if->then equation. First, the group we would want but probably can't get are Note Dame, Florida St., Clemson and North Carolina. Let's agree they are unattainable but we'll leap at the chance to get them if they were available.
Next, I'll assume we could get Pitt and Louisville and should leap at the chance to get them. Solid programs in the Midwest with natural rivalries in both football and basketball. Next, I'll include Miami (FL), an in-state rival for UCF with solid football and basketball programs in a major market.
That leaves one spot for five possibilities: Duke, Georgia Tech, N. Carolina St., Syracuse and Virginia Tech. IMO, Virginia will not want to come here and they aren't normally good enough at football to be considered. If Virginia and Virginia Tech have to come together, I'd rather say no to both then yes to both.
Syracuse gives something the others can't which is NY State and access to NYC. N. Carolina St. and Duke give you a slice of a growing state but they're mediocre at best. With Duke, however, you add another basketball blue blood to add to our relevancy in basketball. If Miami does not come to the Big 12, I'd consider a NC State/Duke tandem as 3-4. I love Georgia Tech because it plants another flag in SEC country and Atlanta is close enough to Orlando to form a rivalry eventually with UCF but I just don't think they offer enough on the field/court to stay relevant. They're the last good option.
So, to summarize - 1) Pitt, 2) Louisville, 3) Miami, 4) Syracuse although I could replace 3/4 with NC State and Duke if Miami says no.
Also need Creighton & Gonzaga
Bring them on.
I can see it. Because if Miami ends up in the Big 10, Ga Tech would be another school in the southeast. Syracuse would be interesting 🤔. Because maybe the ACC move was just a bad move for them. With the point you brought up. Like Pitt. Pitt likes being in the ACC and may not be thrilled exactly about possibly having to leave. But, that move to the ACC hasn't done that much for Pitt's brand. Heck..... Pitt didn't even realize how far behind WVU their facilities were until all this realignment. That's not good.
🕵️♂️ How is West Virginia Going to Fix Their Basketball Program? 😬
A new coach.
Absolutely agree, all four of the teams in your last video should be ahead of GaTech or Cuse. GaTech is sadly the fifth ranked team in the Atlanta market, per the Atlanta Journal and Constitution. UGa, Bama, FSU, and Auburn are all ahead of GaTech in Atlanta. (FYI, the FSU football stadium in Tallahassee is about 20 miles or so from the Georgia border, so FSU has also lots of fans in Southern GA, which does not include Atlanta by any means.)
According to the Syracuse U web site, Cuse has 55,000 alumni in the NYC market. That is out of 21 million people. Insignificant. (By the way, as a comparison, Rutgers has more than 300,000 alumni in the NYC market and more than 40,000 undergraduate and grad students). A survey taken by the NY Times in the NYC market showed the ranking of interest in schools. Not surprisingly, Rutgers was first by a huge margin, since it is the only Division 1 football team in the market. Next was Notre Dame, then Michigan and Penn State. After them came Syracuse and UConn.
Yes, Cuse was good decades ago. Is that what the Big 12 wants?
How large does the Big 12 want to get? There are a lot better choices than Syracuse. GaTech is probably the better choice of the two (though not a great choice) because of academics and, as you said, maybe the Big 12 can get a little bit more excitement in Atlanta. I do not see the Big 12 moving the needle in upstate NY.
I wouldn’t mind either of them, would rather have Louisville(Cincinnati) Pittsburgh(WV) VT, and somehow Miami is left out of SEC/B10
Idk, but somebody from the CRT needs to contact Tegan Moore, a true freshman SG playing for the Western Kentucky hilltoppers. Seriously!!! And he'll actually be eligible!!!
Gt brains TNT and TBS and true TV as patterns
...and Mizzou?
Okay I personally don’t think any ACC schools will join the Big12 before 2030 at the earliest most likely. The only ACC schools that might join are Louisville and either Pitt or Duke or Wake Forest. I foresee at least 2-3 schools headed to BiG10 and at least 2-4 schools headed to SEC. The BiG10 would probably top out at 4-5 additional schools and SEC would top out at 6-8 schools added. But I think both conferences would also consider a few schools from the Big12 as part of their plan to get to 22-24 schools a piece if is their desired size outcome.
I also anticipate that if defections happen from the ACC to the SEC and BiG10, it will be in rounds. This will lead to corresponding backfilling or forward-filling, before schools leave the ACC, with top G5 candidates and the remaining PAC-2 members most likely to take place. And it not be until second round or third round of exits that the Big12 could grab a few or two schools from ACC. At that point the ACC will have filled in adequately. There is a chance that a couple of the schools that the ACC backfills or refills with could be better candidates and additions than any of the four teams I mentioned above that could potentially join the Big12.
What if the SEC wants to do to the BiG10; and step in to their backyard just, as the BiG10 is trying to do in SEC territory? The SEC would add UNC, NCST, UVA, VaTech, but also add Pitt and 3 Big12 schools that are in the northern part of the conference and eastern. They would and could do that.
These are the school I expect to leave ACC for the power2A4.
BiG10::
GT/or/Duke
FSU
Miami
Maybe:; Notre Dame and Stanford & Cal
SEC::
UNC
NCST
UVA
VaTech
Maybe:; Pitt & Clemson plus 2-3 Big12 schools
These are the backfilling schools over the next 2-10 years and not all are added at once or all period. These are just the schools that will get grabbed by ACC per approval by networks obviously, unfortunately, and not solely because of athletic and or academic performances, although it should. These schools will be all in and not just football or Olympic sports schools. And remember, this is just a list of schools that would meet the ACC standards and network standards for the most part and would make schools such as Stanford and Cal happy. But I am not saying these are all the schools of consideration and that they all will be added. No. Some of these schools will be but not all unless 9-11 schools leave the ACC in a span of 4 years or less.
Top Half List Most Likely Added
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WazzU
OzzU
San Diego St
Colorado St
Air Force
Army
Navy
UCONN
Villanova
USF
Memphis
Tulane
Rice
JMU
________________________
CCU
Liberty
UTSA
Nevada
App Store
George Town
Georgia St
Temple
Buffalo
Toledo
Old Dominion
Marshall
Ohio
Assuming no one goes to the Big12 and no one leaves the Big12 in the future to either SEC or BiG10, this would be the potential probable outcome for ACC moving forward:
BC
UConn
Syracuse
Army
Navy
Air Force
Villanova
JMU
Louisville
Pitt
Duke
Wake Forest
Clemson
USF
Tulane
Memphis
SMU
Rice
Colorado St
San Diego St
Stanford
Cal
OzzU
WazzU
Again, the BIG12 has already imploded. No ACC member leaves a viable rebuild that pays within ~$10M per for the BIG12. Consider that the broadcasters valued the conference below at ~$30M per annually:
IOWAST
KANSAS
KSTATE
OKSTATE
BAYLOR
TXTECH
TCU
WVU
CINCY
BYU
UCF
HOUSTON
@@tarheel7460 So dumb. Every conference doesn't have a contract past a certain date.
No
Funny Big 12 will have all old big east schools possibly
When that Pac 12/UT and OU thing almost happened, the Big East and Big 12 were going to merge. But basically, ESPN blocked that when they gave Texas that horrible LHN contract.
It not funny
Gt no, I'd be fine with syracuse and uconn for bball only
🕵️♂️ Some of These Teams Will Be Joining the Big East and Would Be Good Fits! 🤑
I thought that The Big East was strictly a basketball only conference after the football side of it collapsed beck when Syracuse and the rest went to the ACC
If you can you'd better....those 2 + pitt and Louisville would be a strong 20....and "IF" somehow things went bonkers and you went to 24 then you swing back west....takeover the bay area with Stanford and Cal....then the northwest for Oregon State and Washington State