What size dive watch is right for me? The Seiko SKX007 vs SKX013
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ต.ค. 2024
- In today's video, we put the legendary Seiko SKX007 watch up against its little brother, the mid-size SKX013. Which one is right for you? We put them side by side and show you all the size specs so you can make an informed decision for yourself.
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don't apologise Mark for doing another Seiko Video, yes we love to look at Pateks and Vacherons , but most of us here "implying" are mid tier budget consumers who like Japanese watches.
22 true that bro.
Here here... long term am thinking Tudor or Sinn... real long term... ha ha.. but in the meantime, I'm enjoying my Seikos and Orients..... for the value, Japanese, German, micro-brand; I couldn't find anything else that suits my needs for decent everyday watch.
Thanks!
I think the SKX-171 is the best looking out of all the SKX series watches. I purchased one from Marc and tossed on a coin edge bezel...beautiful! www.kalman.org/chris/Images/PMMM1.JPG www.kalman.org/chris/Images/PMMM2.JPG
the 38mm, what is the accuracy per day on these?
You don't need to apologies Mark, we all love Seiko's and your videos !
Appreciated!
You're very welcome !
Oh hi mark.
Hahaha
Lmaooo!
Hadi Masood That’s how I’ve been greeted consistently for a few years now.
To give other users a rule of thumb... A good ratio for the wrist circumference and the diameter of the watch is between 4.5 and 5. Bigger ratio, watch is too small, smaller ratio, too big. Lets say you have an wrist with 16 cm of circumference , a watch with 45 mm will have a ratio of 3,55 (watch is too big), 38mm ratio of 4,2 ('perfect size') and with 3,2 5 (too small). Off course it's just a 'starting point'. Some watch styles must be bigger (lets say aviator watches) and others smaller (like dress watches). Also your preferences matter (of course)... But i think this is a good tip. The idea isn't mine... I saw in a watches forum a long time ago, so i can't credit the author. (EDITED)
Wow, that is great! I am going to pocket this idea for a future video!
Genius!
i think the lenghts from tip to tip is more important.
A ratio between 4.5 and 5 is good? So you're saying a wrist with 16.5 cm needs to wear something between 33mm - 36mm? That just doesn't make sense.
When will people (even watch pros) realize that lug-to-lug is about 80 billion times more relevant than diameter?
Love my SK013 I bought from you going on 2 years ago. Put a Nato strap on it immediately, as the rubber was too stiff. It's been in the ocean several times, so it's definitely not a desk diver.
I love my SKX013! Great size and proportions. I even bought an extra bracelet from you "in case" I can't find one in the future.
There is a defining moment in every man's life when must decide a
question that will profoundly effect his future: 'which Sieko Diver
should I get, The SKX007, or the SKX013?'
After watching this video, for me, the answer is now clear.
Though I might prefer that needle w/ lollipop second hand on the SKX007,
I've got other watches like that and the second hand w/pointer is nice
too. I like the minute hand of the SKX013 better and I think the SKX013
looks better on Mark's wrists, and his wrists are a little bigger than
my own. So the SXK013 it is!
Thanks for this very helpful video Mark!
LOL, thank you!
I just purchased the SKX013K1 myself. I debated for so long and finally pulled the trigger. I can't wait for it to arrive!
Let's have both! LOL!
Brother What is your wrist size ?
Wish they made this in a 40mm, the 013 is too small and the 007 too big for me
Try the seiko snzf17
Your wrist size?
Just get the smaller one , curious how can the 013 is too small and 007 is too big for you . You must have really weirdly shaped wrist lol .
I think most people wish Seiko would make some 40mm divers. Unfortunately Seiko is Tone-deaf
Too small watches are never exist.
I've owned both an SKX009 (same as the 007 but with a different color scheme) and an SKX013. I bought the 013 because it's larger counterpart wore too large for it to be comfortable on me. I'm quite pleased with it; it's easily my favorite and most practical watch. However, there are a few minor differences between the two than just the size and the different hands:
1. The markings on the chapter ring are significantly thinner on the 013 than the 009/007. I actually find the 013 easier to read, but I've seen people who prefer the 009/007.
2. There is a dent at 3:00--without minute markers--in the 013's chapter ring, presumably to make room for the day-date window. Although I've never had an issue with telling the time because of this, it seems to annoy a lot of people.
Both of these can be hard to notice in pictures of the 013, and that's principally because of:
3. The bevel on the glass can obscure the chapter ring. This can happen with both the 007/009 and the 013, but it is far more pronounced on the 013. This is a minor complaint for me, but it may be more of a nuisance for others. I can still read the time without issue on the 013, so don't let this be a deal breaker.
I love my SKX013 so much. I wish there were more 36-38mm watches. 99.99% of them nowadays are 40mm and up and I absolutely hate that I cannot wear so many great watches.
Very true. The 013 remains one of the last mid-size divers. It is a shame.
a single white female the struggles of being female. I feel ya
Check out the Zodiac Sea Wolf 53 Skin reissue....Zodiac lists it at 40, but I measure the bezel at 39 and the case is ~38.2. I don't like big watches either.
I like that Zodiac somewhat, but once I get to that price range I would probably go for a Christopher Ward C60 in 38mm first.
I strongly considered that watch myself but ultimately what killed it for me was the spring bars are positioned really close to the case limiting how thick a strap I could put on. I also decided it was too dressy for my tastes.
Don’t apologize for another Seiko video! Seikos rock! Great channel thanks !
Well, you KNOW what they say about guys who wear large watches. They're over-compensating for some ... (hey, wait a minute... I wear a Sumo... that's 45mm) ... never mind.
LOL
Or they have large arms.
It amazes me all the people pushing for 38mm watches.
They look so small on my 8 and a bit inch wrist.
Or, like the commenter below, you have a large 8.75" wrist like me. The bone structure of my wrist is 78mm wide. A 51mm or even greater lug spacing is comfortable on me. That's my "cold" measurement. I love my Seiko's, some purchased 20+ yeras ago, but my 42mm Seikos (which were considered 'huge' back then; a Sub was 40mm) look kinda small on me. 45mm looks ok, and 47 is just about perfect. And my wife is perfectly happy with all my other measurements, which match my size 13 EEE shoes. Just sayin, "if the watch fits"...
@@zakofrx Yeah, me too. A 40mm watch looks like I taped a quarter to my wrist, lol.
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I wear a 49.5mm Nautica chronograph diver on my 8.25 inch wrist. I love the heft and presence of it. I couldn't imagine going to a smaller dive watch.
glad you do these skx videos. even though your shop charges more than others. my skx came from you because of your videos and reputation.
Thanks for clearing up the SKX 013K1 and K2 bc I’m trying to find one used on eBay. I have a small wrist and decided to try to get the SKX013. So at first I thought the K1 and K2 might be a case finish difference and one being polished and the other being brushed.
I just got back into collecting watches, after slowing down about 8 years ago. The first affordable Seiko watch I was looking for was the SSB031, but found out that model was discontinued also.
Great video and thanks Mark!
Wow, that SKX013 really is a perfect size. I can tell I would enjoy it much than my SKX007J I had some time ago. Now I need to try it buy one back.
“a picture is worth a thousand words and I think a video is worth a million words” 0:13
fabulous comment:)
Got my skx013 yesterday from you guys and I love it! Fits me perfectly
Thank you!
Thanks for the comparison video Mark. Super helpful to see. Just purchased a SKX013K1 (the midsize). Time to order a couple 20mm NATOs. I own an Oris Divers 65, but I don't feel comfortable wearing that while changing the oil in the truck, etc. Excited to have an automatic with class for just $200 that I can bang around!
Thank you! Your informative videos combined with this one gave me the confidence to buy a SKX013 from your store!
Thanks so much for that.
Just got it in the mail, the 013 looks even better in person than it does on the videos! Thank you so much.
Hi Mark, I've just purchased my Seiko (SKX007) from you guys after watching this video! Hopefully I'll buy from you guys again :) Gotta love the SKX007, it's a classic!
Thank you!
So I just bought the SKX013 because I have a very small resp. thin wrist (16.5cm). But the SKX007 fits way better. Imho the size of the 13 doesn't really do the watch justice. It looks a bit like a kid's watch, even on a small sized wrist.
Mark KNOWS watches 👍 thanks for sharing your experience and expertise
Answering viewer questions, and talking about Seiko -- nothing to apologise for there.
Please do more of both!
I just bought the skx 007 from you. I can't wait till I get it. Super excited!
I’ve always preferred the 013 to the 007 but simply by looking at them the 007 just seems better proportioned, to the point where that is my favourite between the 2 now
The problem with sizing a diver is how wide and tall the bezel is. As a result the dial is much smaller than on a regular watch, and it is deeper inside a watch. People say that 42 mm is big (SKX00x), but what is the size of the dial? 28 mm? On a dress watch, that would be a 33 - 35 mm watch. How many would say, "oh, yeah, that's a big watch"? Also, because of the height of a diver, it looks like you have a small chimney growing out of your wrist. To me, a diver watch to look proportional, needs to be ~ 45 mm, perhaps slightly bigger depending on the bezel. In the end one also needs to answer the question "do I really need a diver or do I just want a robust and reasonably water proof field watch" because the latter can be had with better proportions (larger dial for overall size of the case) and thinner case (hiding an SKX00x inside a shirt cuff is not as easy as people think, particularly on a rubber strap).
Yes, very true. There is so much more to knowing how large a watch really is, other than strictly size.
just got my Seiko snk795 yeasterday from long island watch. love it
Thank you for your business!
I always thought I had small wrists, so I chose to buy a SKX013... Turns out it is too small and I actually have a 7" wrist. I should have measured my wrist before...
Just ordered a 013. Can't wait!
Just got mine a week or two ago. I now feel like I'm married to this watch. LOVE IT
@@phamily-tv how is it going ? What size is your wrist? Still happy with the watch ?
Thanks for the comparison, you have the same wrist size as me so this was a big help in me making a decision.
An informative,honest and succinct video! One of the best vlogs about watches in youtube!
Thank you!
Good video! The short lug-to-lug dimension of these watches and the Orient Ray/Mako is what makes them so wearable for almost all wrists. Some other makers should take note. 🤔
Yes, absolutely!
Mark - I just discovered your channel and love it. I have a crazy question you might be able to answer. Have you ever seen a small rubber O-ring keeper that protects the crystal? I’m dating myself, but I’ll try and describe what I’m talking about. I learned to SCUBA dive in Okinawa, JP in the early 80s. I bought a Seiko on the local economy and it came with a “ wishbone “ looking rubber piece. The two circle parts of the wishbone were slipped over the band and the straight part went over the crystal. On the straight part was a small O-ring that slid back and forth over the crystal. Back then, it was to protect the crystal from getting scratched on the coral. It was kind of odd, but all the American and Okinawan divers had them on their watches. I’d like to buy one for old times sake. Thanks Doug
Great video Mark. Unbelievably, it addresses the very question I am asking myself right now. I'm still not sure, but it has given me something to think about. If only they did the SKX013 case with a dial like the SKX173. I have a 7.25" wrist, but I still think I prefer the 38mm size, and I love the more elegant lugs too. Anyway, thanks very much. Subscribed. 😁
Thanks for the sub. At 7.25" you would love the 007 or the 173.
Could you tell me if the end links on the original bracelet are interchangeable between these two watches?
Just got myself a new SKX013 with the ugly rubber straps but couldn’t say no to the price (£150 brand new, boxed).
Cheers!
Thanks for the detailed information about the two versions Marc! Very helpful. I have a pretty small wrist but I prefer the 007 because of the more balanced dial (Day/Date is not so far on the outside of the dial).
Good point!
Many thanks for the heads up Mark, you have probably saved me the guts of €200..I have seven and a half inch wrists, and was gonna buy an SKX013... Now I will purchase an SKX007 instead....
Excellent review. I decided to go with the Seiko SKX 007J. The wrist review was particularly useful. Thank you.
Thanks for checking it out.
I have a 7.25-7.5in wrist and I have grown to love the SKX015 (has the same size dimensions as the SKX013) since it is a handy down watch from my father. I have tried the SKX007 and while I like it's proportions a lot more it just does not seem practical to get another SKX when there are better diver watch options out there.
Hi, I have the pulse of 17cm (6, 7) which I recommend:
SKX013 or SKX007?
Thank you
Hi Marc, big question here, is the crown the same diameter on both watches? (Is the movement the same size too?)
Thanks in advance
Mark, you make the best watch video ever! This is a compliment from one engineer to another.:) Especially the "watch and learn" ones.
Thank you! I appreciate that.
Awesome Mark. Been pondering the SK's for some time and this is very helpful...as always. All I have to do is get over my crush on the Ray Ii you sold me and the 007 could get wrist time.
Haha, okay, in time then!
Hi Mark, I appreciate this video since I have same size wrist, I don't like large watches, and I'm considering a modded 007 but I've been concerned about it being bigger than I'd like. Also, I wonder if you could tell me if the similar sized Squale 1521 appears smaller or larger on the wrist than the SKX007?
Thank you Mark, answered everything I wanted to now between the two and which model works best for this new Seiko SKX007 owner. Enjoy all your videos and content and appreciate you always make sure to show the watches on your wrist which not all videos do :)
I have read some reviews that the rubber strap is uncomfortable to wear. What is your opinion of the rubber strap?
Great review!
Ive got a 6 inch wrist with a width of 2.16 inches. I really like the 007s looks and the greater options to mod it which I plan to do when funds roll in. Which one would you recommend?
Hey Mark, it would nice if you could put a still shot of both wrist shots side by side.
Is there a beautiful diver you recommend for an 8.25 inch wrist? Currently wear a 49.5mm Nautica Chrono tri-tone (steel, black, copper). I've had it for 9 years.
Id like to know where I can have my 009 modded. I would like to change the crystal to a double domed and switch the second hand to one with the pip on the other side. Any suggestions?
so the skx007 is just 1mm longer from tip to tip which will suit the same people that can wear a skx013. There are watches with 50mm tip to tip or 48mm which is a different case but 44mm to 45mm is not much.
Seiko make beautifully designed watches ,and are of superb quality. So don't apologize for a product you sell, if people don't like it to bad for them, they can tune in when you put a 20,000 watch on for review. And thanks for the comparisons good job Mark cu next time⌚
Thank you!!!
Hi Mark just wondering about the Quality control of the alignment markers? Also how accurate is the movement on average please? Great vid by the way!
The Urban Gentry sent me here. Great video. Thank you.
Great, thank you.
Amazing how there’s a Marc video for the exact thing I want to know!
I have wrists of about 6.3 inches which is pretty small, so I bought the 013 from Long Island Watch after viewing this video. I also bought the Oyster bracelet from Mark and installed and sized it myself. The sizing was easy, but attaching the bracelet to the case was a little tricky. The watch looks fantastic, but after wearing it for a while I was bothered by the size. It just seemed too small for me. Maybe because I'm tall for a person with 6.3 inch wrists.
So I've ordered the 007 Super Oyster from Mark and I'll resize the bracelet and see if I'm more comfortable with it. I have a friend who wants the 013. It is a really fine watch, especially for the price.
Marc, Yet another great video. With my 7" wrists, I can also wear either one. Never apologize for another Seiko video. I love them! I'm glad you are carrying the new Recraft SNE448 & SNE447! I am also happy that Seiko had made the Grand Cocktail Time (SDGM001) available in the US. I am shocked that they put it in with the Core Series, and saddened that it is a Boutique Exclusive. Anyway, all it all great content presented very well.
do you have any recommendations on where to buy a seiko 007 for the best price.. I see so many reviewers and stuff having a ton of these.. I wonder if any of them sell or trade them off anywhere?
I like them both and cant decide wich one to buy in near future damn.. The second hand like arrow on 013 looks very good and sharp.
Although I have large wrists, I'm a big fan of the SKX013 because it's more manageable of a size. I've had an SKX007 and felt it was fairly bulky, which makes sense for a dive watch, but didn't work too well for everyday use.
My watch rarely fails to sync with the atomic clock. I’ve never set the time on my watch yet since I bought it last year. I don’t regret the upgraded square one bit.
If the 'K' means 'not made in Japan', where are they made. Does it affect the quality or the cost? Please reply.
Barclay Sauers it does cost a little bit less if they are the k version. It doesn’t affect the quality or anything but if you really want the skx made in Japan then look for the j version. Hurry and buy one because they are a discontinued model
Love your videos and I think this one convinced me to pick up a 13!
Hi Mark and good morning from Paros island greece.i want to ask you something.I have a Seiko 0030 and I want to put a super oyster bracelet.which you recommend for it;thank you.
Dumb question: Since the distance from lug to lug is pretty much the same, wouldn't the lugs hang out a bit on a small wrist anyway? I have a small 6inch wrist but I prefer the roundish 007 to the long/slim 013. Should I buy for the fit or the look? Thank you.
Yes, but it still looks "better" on a smaller wrist, more in-proportion. There are many dimensions that tell how a watch fits; thickness, diameter, crown protrusion, lug length and even the bezel size!
Hello, I am looking at purchasing a Sk013k1 can I take the rubber strap off and use a jubaliee bracelet? Thankyou!!!!!!
Ty for this video. Learned so much from this. Im getting a skx013 :)
Nice choice!
Not sure if you guys notice but if you have OCD, the smaller skx013 crystal glass cuts in with the daydate causing it to see double for example at 5:40. You can change to a different crystal to fix it. It may or may not bother you. To me its one of those imperfection cringes.
Hi Mark, great video. I recently bought SKX013K2, great dive watch and thank you for reviewing it. I have a question for you.
I inherited from my late father Seiko 66-8050 from 1971. on original Seiko jubilee bracelet in very good condition. Only the crystal has little scratches. Should I go for for crystal replacement or leave the watch in original state?
Greetings from Croatia
replace it unless you want to sell it. considering that it is a inherited watch, i assume that you don't want to sell it. so buy a decent sapphire and wear it with that. it will not scratch and look better.
Can you tell me if the Seiko SKX007K is the same as the Seiko SKX007K1 ? Is there any difference ?
I just wish the 013 was a bit slimmer. 13mm is really thick
It's made with purpose ,as a diver's watch
What's the slimest seiko. Fit under a long sleeve
I have the 009 and it feels a little bulky for me, I also have a 6 3/4 wrist this review really helped me out to see is the 013 would be too small or not! Thanks mark!
Thanks for watching.
A Seiko watch is for life. Great tool for a decent price.
Great review, very informative as always. Thanks again. I'm a sucker for a dive or sports watches in general. I actually prefer a larger face watch , my wrist is 8.5 inch around , what is the largest auto diver you sell at your place please Marc??
Largest auto diver would likely be an Orient M-Force at around 46mm, or a Tauchmeister at around 48mm
Great update Marc , is there a reduced size for the 009??
There used to be the SKX015, but I haven't seen it in years.
Hello Mark, probably a stupid question but on the 007 I wonder how the seconds hand indicate where it is. The reason for my confusion is that the short end of the hand has the illuminated ball which seem to me of importance to show the correct position when the visibility in the water is poor or simply in the dark; especially when you are diving with oxygen when time really counts, even seconds. Can you clarify this please.
The needle end is the seconds display.
Thanks for the info
nice vid. can you comment about the day of week options? one is blue, the other black? do either models have Japanese Kanji option on the day of week? If not, how about the Made in Japan model? Thanks!
Hey Mark, you said that serial number shows the year it was made. Can you do a quick demonstration? Thanks
The SERNO's start with '6', which is 2016. Seiko runs a single digit year designator. So how do you know what year it is? 2006 or 2016? Well then you have to know what version of movement is inside it. Like the 7S26 has many versions (a, b and c). Next then you see what decade the movement was made in, then you figure out what year.
Getting ready to pull the trigger on the 007. Watch for my order! lol
:)
Love your work, put in an order for the 007 while I was watching.
Perfect. Then it was "Watch and Sell" LOL
The SKX013 fits you so well!
I have the 007 and decided to get my girl the 013. She loves it and it looks good in her. His and hers SKXs. Is there anything better than that?
You aren't the only one!
Does Seiko make a J version of the SKX013? I've been searching for one online and haven't found one. Thanks.
Never seen one.
Guys witch do you think looks better in a 7 inch wrist ? Please answer i will buy one
I just received the 013. Great watch. However, it wears smaller than it's 38mm size, even compare to my sarb033. I have a relatively small 6 inch wrist, can I pull off the 007 or 009, or is it too big for my wrist?
I want to know , too.(I have a 5.9 inch wrist)
Please I need this question answered: I have bought a SKX007, the size of watch itself it nice but my 5:9 inch wrist puts the strap at the second last hole. Hence the strap sticks out on the outher side and looks ugly. My question is if the rubber band is SHORTER on the SKX013, I would then consider getting that one instead.
No, it will not fit. Wrong size. Just cut the rubber neatly on the 007 strap.
Long Island Watch Thanks for getting back to me Marc!
Thanks for this video.
Question: Thoughts on the Steinhart OVM?
Looks like a great watch; but never actually held one.
which is better movement skx007 or skx013 sir?
Thanks for this video exactly what I was looking for! SKX007 it is for me!
Thanks for your reply mark. I appreciate it. 😀👍
I think I am about to buy myself a SKX013, never realised it existed until today, I was originally looking at the 007 as I had heard it wore smaller than its size would suggest, I don't have particularly small wrists but I have a technical hands on profession, and big bulky watches do my nut in when I forget to take them off. Currently daily wear a CWC G10 36mm, but really wanting another Auto (previously wore my Bulova marine star 43mm, always felt it was way to bulky)
Great video!
Would you mind telling the width of your wrist? I find it to be a better reference than circumference.
I have a flat shaped wrist, though it is small in circumference, many large watches do not overlap the edges so they look quite fine.
Thank you.
2.5 inches; and yes, it is a good indication and I did plan to do a video on it!
Seiko videos are the best 😌
Great!
Mark,
Any definitive answer on whether or not Seiko has discontinued the SKX007/009 watches?
Doubt it severely.
So many people on the Seiko watch forums swear that Seiko has discontinued that watch. The only thing I would see is Seiko possibly changing the movement to the upgraded 4R36 and possibly placing it into the Prospex line.....the watch is too popular to discontinue.
I like most of your videos, Mark. They are informative and enjoyable. I intend to buy a few pcs from your website, but living in Cambodia is a bit more f an issue on that matter.
Yes, true. Sorry : (
Hi Mark.What's your wrist size?Rob
I love how informative your videos! Thank you!
Great, I appreciate that!
I browsed through as many replies as possible... But is there a Pepsi bezel version of the 013? Looked around online but didn't see much
Not currently, no.
The lug to lug on the 007 is so small and the case makes it measure bigger than it looks so the 007 isn't too big for even a small wrist.