Several all ready! One time, I just booted the machine cold and got a Windows Registry error FOR NO REASON!! Another reboot "fixed it". Ah the joys of Windows 98SE :)
MetalJesusRocks I honestly don't get why you chose 98SE as OS for this machine. XP would be much more efficient and I haven't found a single DOS game that refuses to run one way or the other in XP. Man I should boot up my old baby again...
@Stang5.0 killsya yeah, what prevents me from calling Win98 a favorite was the constant crashing... When I finally used XP, I remember my first impression of it being "oh it doesn't freeze anymore!!" But the Win98 themes and sounds blew XP out of the water xDDD
My early childhood was XP and I got vista then I lived mostly with windows 7 until I had to replace my machine with a modern day gaming computer 2 years ago because my old computer just could barely run Windows 7 by late 2016.
My first computer had Windows 98 so I do have a nostalgia feeling for it. However when Windows XP came out I immediately fell in love with it and did not really miss Windows 98 at all. XP was a lot more stable, 98 used to freeze up and crash a lot from what I remember.
In my opinion, vintage PC games are the real hidden gems. People are just now starting to tap into their awesomeness. Jill of the Jungle, Realms of Chaos and really anything that Apogee games and Epic made in the 90's are big-time winners. I'm excited what this means For your channel dude, pump out that 90s 'tude!
Nothing in the computer world has ever had an impression on me as the first time I popped a Voodoo2 into my PC and fired up Quake 2. That was the instant in time that I completely lost interest in consoles until a few years back.
Going from software rendering polygons to full 3D acceleration was MASSIVE. I remember applying the Rendition 3D patch to the original Tomb Raider and being BLOWN AWAY. It was like seeing a brand new game!
Did you have the Sierra Screamin 3D card (Rendition Verite V1000-E from Sierra? I just won one at eBay in a bid a few days ago completely new in the shrink wrap.No one else noticed the bid and I won it for $5 plus $18 shipping.
Oh WOW, I frequent that RE:PC store (and the one in Seattle) daily! They sell wired mice for $1, wireless mice for $2, keyboards for $2, sound cards for $1 and so on. Lots of random tech treasures, but the best thing I found there was a fully functional Grundig Satellit 700 Ham Radio for $15 (worth about $300-$500 on eBay).
I guess I got used to an extremely old computer since I had since I was 5. It was fairly good when I got it but I had to replace it with a modern gaming pc because it couldn't run anything anymore
I enjoyed this video so much! Never thought to build my own "old school" gaming pc, definitely added to my to-do list! Also, I would love to see dedicated episodes to your PC Gamer demo discs! OMG the nostalgia ♥
this is my favorite topic you've covered in a while. I wish I still had my windows 3.1, win 98, & XP machines... really regret tossing those in the trash over the years.
got 3dfx voodoo hardware compatibility on your virtual PC (or any working option to run games that need glide, opengl or directX?) got REAL adlib sound and not some horrible sounding half assed emulation? yeah, thought so. if you are serious about playing retro PC games, a virtual machine does not cut it.
janX9 - you're simply missing the point my friend. Are you not aware that what you speak of is common knowledge? Anyone can do that these days. Not everyone does this. This is called preserving history and a certain gaming era.
Thanks so much for this video. The nostalgia really hit me hard. I didnt know somewhere inside my mind the names of Voodoo and Soundblaster still were there... thank you.
You just opened a door. Now you'll need a 486 for Ultima VII and that 5 1/4" drive. You'll need a Roland MT-32 and an SC55...you'll love the audio. Matching monitor, keyboard, mouse. Then it gets crazy after that...more Retro PC Gaming videos are welcome. Tx.
Agree 100%. Origin and Sierra games sound amazing on Roland hardware. The CM-500 is a good choice because it let's you switch between MT32 and SC mode in a single device!
YES! Awesome video. My family's first computer was in 1998, and we had a pair of 3DFX Voodoo 2's hooked up in SLI mode. PC Gamer provided us with plenty of games to play. MotoCross Madness, Age of Empires, Battlefield 1942...all great demos. Enough that you didn't even need the full game to enjoy them! My favorite game of the time was Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight. It was built on the Quake II engine, but man, the game play and sound still hold up. X-wing vs TIE Fighter was my generation's answer to the old TIE fighter game, and it had a surprising amount of depth to it. Long live 90's PC gaming!
I haven't logged into my TH-cam account in a very long time. I just wanted to say that this video brought me a lot of joy. Seeing that store, Re-PC, was like heaven for me. I've always considered myself to be the world's only "90s computer enthusiast", because nobody ever wants to talk about this stuff. Everybody says "Use a virtual machine or DOSbox", but it's just not the same to me. I've been wanting to do a project like this for a long time, but you know how it is. I'm still planning to do it. There's some valuable insight in this video.
Yeah, my mom got one back in the day when she got her Gateway 2000. We still have it. It’s a good mouse. (The one we have is beige, though. The space gray color of his is cool!)
I've been meaning to do this for a while. I got so many games on floppy I have no way of installing on current computers. Would love to play them authentically too.
U can run a virtual machine to play such games on a new pc just run windows 98 on the vm also their is a patch to fix the "run at 100% all the time" so u don't end up heating up the CPU to much as current computers aren't really designed to be maxed out at all times especially with things like turbo boost. However I'm not sure about gpu support on vm though.
Everybody knows about dosbox and scummvm and such, I just tend to chase the authentic experiences and my experiences with some of those programs have been very lack luster. Things like Dark Seed 2 in dosbox fucking up half the cinematics and other things like the phantasmagoria steam port (Which runs through dos box) having a glitch that deleted my save 20 minutes away from the end. Compatibility is not perfect and I'd rather deal with a new old PC than emulating.
Great video. Speaking of game copy protection. I remember some games back in the day that came with a code wheel that you had to use figure out what code to enter to play the game.
Man my first PC was a 486DX @ 25mgh (33 with turbo button engaged) Kings Quest, Wolfenstein, Eye of the Beholder, Doom, Wing Commander, etc etc. for 15 year old it was heaven. Just getting the IRQ/DMA sound card/audio and the mouse to work was an achievement at times. I remember something about extended/expanded memory too. Thanks for making these videos, they're always a reminder of a very happy time of my life.
If I lived in the Seattle area I'd love to browse around RE-PC, would be like a kid in a candy store :D Look forward to you reviewing more retro PC games from this time, rock on!
You could set up the windows xp pc you got there too dualboot windows 98 se fairly easily as well if you change out the ram too max 512 mb (id go for 386 mb a 256 mb stick + 128 mb.) & add in another soundcard that's a bit more compatible or has good general midi support. & with the generic usb storage drivers you get pretty good storage capabilities too. www.philscomputerlab.com/windows-98-usb-storage-driver.html Got it running fairly well on my pentium mmx machine with a old pci too usb interface card, though you better let it work moving files, installing something from the external harddrive (sata too usb enclosure btw.) (Fat32 partitioned ofc too 60 gb here.) or a usb drive can be used as well. (got a 32 gb stick working fine for it unless i happen to make it freeze by doing something else on it while waiting for the files too move over.)
Its amazing how much you forget when looking back over what you used to game with, 1998 seems so long ago now but golden time right in the boom of the pc world, i totally forgot about those copy protection things like looking in manuals for words or looking at colour wheels etc, they used to do the same on the amiga, good days Re-PC what a place! we don't get things like that here in the uk
Sweet looking system you've got there! Here's the one I put together for my 43rd birthday in 2017: Celeron 400A Socket 370 CPU (from my first ever PC) Tyan Tomahawk 440 BX Socket 370 motherboard 512MB (2x256MB) Kingston PC100 SDRAM 128MB Palit GeForce 4 MX 440 128-bit AGP graphics card Turtle Beach Montego II Aureal Vortex 2 based PCI sound card Yamaha Audician 32 Plus OPL3 based 16-bit ISA sound card Intel 536EP PCI modem card (from my first ever PC, just because) 3Com 3C905-TX (Rev B) PCI network card Belkin USB 2.0 PCI card Firewire PCI card 40GB WD400BB system PATA HDD 120GB WD120BB data PATA HDD Lite-On DVD Combo PATA optical drive (beige) Lite-On DVD-ROM PATA optical drive (beige) Sitecom USB 2.0 front ports & card reader bay (beige) Mitsumi 1.44MB floppy drive (beige) My first ever PC's blue & beige midi tower PC case Mercury 400W ATX PSU Belkin red and yellow rounded PATA cables Belkin green rounded floppy cable Startech (& original) CD drive audio cables Startech CPU cooler & fan Coolermaster 80mm double ball bearing case fan (with Akasa 80mm fan filter & chrome grill) Windows 98 Second Edition
Wienerlord To rebuild my first PC, based around my first PC's original processor, but with additional parts I couldn't get the first time round, for running old Win98se and DOS software.
Metal Jesus how could you take out the clip of you rockin out on the stage, always in the beginning of your intro. That was the best clip you gotta find a way to insert it in somewhere, ITS THE BEST!!
Aw man, that Re-PC warehouse looks so awesome. I wish we had one of those here. We do have Frys and Micro Center, but nothing like that.. That would be so great
Im 31, this takes me back to my"BLOOD, DUKE NUKEM, WOKFENSTEIN, DOOM, DIABLO" days.....but certain explosions and my parents computer would freeze. hahaha.
Although a much newer game, when F.E.A.R first came out, my computer at the time was not good enough and grenade explosions would completely crash the computer every time. I love the memory of that.
So I was inspired to build one too. AMD Athlon 700MHz 128MB PC133 SDRAM 320GB WD 5400RPM IDE HDD 3DFx Voodoo3 2000 16MB AGP Asus A7V133 Sound Blaster Live 5.1 LG DVD Rom LG 52x32x52x CD Burner 17 inch Dell CRT Monitor 3.5-inch floppy drive Old Beige Case and 350 Watt PSU Grand total $220... I guess I got a decent deal, but it's hard to tell sometimes. I went to a few stores and in the classifieds for all the parts. Everything runs great and works stable, so no complaints here. Love having 3DFx to play old games like Unreal and Monster Truck Madness.
if your school has PCs from 2003 and down, then it very likely is better than them. This is the top of the line back then, so it'd still hold up for a while after.
My school has Lenovo ThinkCentre all-in-ones with Windows 7. I believe it has a Pentium D, some of the computers have a Pentium D sticker and some don't. They all appear to be the exact same model, though.
so many memories from this video. i actually have all the original software and parts laying around to build a system and play all my old stuff. i might just have to give this a go some day.
I've been messing around with PCem emulator lately running Windows 98 SE. The nostalgia has been unreal! The games from that era are still as fun to play now. I can't believe your computer was only a couple of hundred bucks! I'd love to do the same sometime and ship it up to Atlantic Canada
A word of warning regarding the power supply in this PC: it uses ATX connectors with non-standard wiring, much like many other Dell computers from this time. Attempting to use a standard ATX power supply with the Dell motherboard, or vice versa, may destroy the power supply and/or motherboard used. Keep this in mind if the power supply breaks or a new motherboard is required.
It actually does not, I connected a standard ATX PSU to a Dell Dimension 4100 Motherboard and the motherboard caused the PSU to smoke. Dell was smart enough back in the day.
I believe it is possible to move the pins around or make an adapter out of an arc extension cable. There is a pin removal tool that pushes the pins out of the arc moles connector. Just look up the pinout online.
I just bought an old dell pc running XP so I could play some of my old games that I loved like Shivers! I found your video telling about you being in the video! How cool! Today I'm looking up how to expand on my new/old pc and I found another video by you! I'm new to doing this kind of thing. Hopefully I can learn some stuff from your videos.
Regarding NFS: Porsche Unleashed - did you play online with the rest of the PU fans back in the day? If so were you a member of any of the [??] teams? I was one of the founders of Team[RS] and had a lot of fun playing it online up until EA finally shut it down for good. 'Course one of the members of Team[RS] eventually came up with "IPLounge" which allowed for online play again. Yep, them were the days. Oh and I was known (originally) as Alt-F4 which when I joined the team became [RS]Alt. Cheers !
Why are you so awesome with this stuff? It would be great if you could somehow reverse time and record footage of Napster, Netscape Navigator, and AOL Channels while you were at it! Maybe even dig into some CompuServe and Prodigy! :P
i have some old pc hardware laying from the late 90s and early 2000s i used netscape a week ago. im thinking of visiting this store and buying some hardware and imitating what MJR did in this video.
That Bald Gamer Dude! Those where the days! I didn't get my own computer until I was 18 back in 1998. I had all that stuff. I taught myself HTML. I designed website graphics and fan art in Paint Shop Pro with a mouse!
Thx so much for posting this! I can’t wait to build mine and play KOTOR 1&2. Buying my 90s games back. There were a lot of good ones from this time. I have the Wing commander series up to the Price of freedom.
Great vid! Takes me right back to my first MMX chipset machine running Win95 and an Apache flight sim called Janes Longbow Gold. Great times.. apart from updating drivers every 10 mins!
So to all the people saying you overpaid. Their pricing assumptions are based on the cost of parts to them on ebay or getting them from scrappers and don't include the time of the technician and the cost of having a brick and motor store and the fact that the owner still has to turn some sort of profit. I was a little disappointed you didn't go ahead and build it yourself because it's more fun. What you really paid for was for a technician to choose all the parts, test all the parts, burn in the system and make sure all the parts were quality, install the OS and drivers and so on. The Voodoo3 and the SB16 are worth about 60-90 on ebay combined. The value of all the other parts is pretty much negligible maybe 10-20 for all the other parts combined. The rest of what you paid for what the work that went into it. So all things being equal you didn't get a bad deal considering to take a computer into a reputable shop to have work done on it costs pretty much a minimum of 50 dollars just to take it in the door.
I bought 10 of these voodoo 3 for 25€ and an SB16 for 2€ last summer, these ebay prices are total bullshit and nobody should pay them (and I'm pretty sure most people don't pay these prices either, these are just offers at 60-90$, not the price people really pay) I can build a better system for 20€. Just give me some time to find all the good deals and that's it. As for the technician, you're right, he has to be paid, but there are so many other ways to do the same thing for much cheaper ...
The problem with retro PCs is that you should know how to do it, even if you don't like it, because it's not because they found parts that work well now that they'll still be up and running later. Capacitors go bad, PSUs go bad, HDDs go bad, Windows 98 can go really wrong, and configuring your hardware often needs some comprehension to be done right. You don't need any grade in IT, but knowing how thing can fail, and how to fix it is almost a requirement imo, otherwise you won't keep your retro PC for really long.
No I wasn't particulary addressing to you, but to your reasoning. A car is more useful than a retro computer, and they cost much more. But fixing them can take hours, while fixing a retro PC can take minutes. If you don't know how to fix your retro computer, you'll end up spending tons of money in a hobby and probably loosing more time than if you fixed it yourself. And I didn't meant that lack of joy = lack of knowledge/skill, that's just what happened to metaljesus I presume. (maybe I just misunderstood that though), but if doing something you find boring for few hours spares you 90% of what you would have paid instead, I don't think you'd choose the other choice (unless you have enough money to spare and that you're lazy which I can understand)
Why build a super powered pc, able to play any game for the next 5 years when you can go back and play pinball again. PS: This stuff brings me back as a young kid using a pc for the first time.
I used to spend hours building tracks on that game back in my younger days..Good times....Space Quest and Leisure Suit Larry games are still my favorite PC titles though...
Stunts was amazing. In that days i was too little to play this type of games, so only thing i did during every play was damaging car and breaking the front window. It wass still fun though... :D
MetalJesusRocks, invite Phil from Phil's Computer Lab to join you as well while you at it. If he travels to NA, that is. Very retro PC focused YT channel author who might offer an interesting fusion episode which can lend additional insight into improving on your Retro PC build.
A single Voodoo2's max res in GLide was 800x600 unless you SLI'd two of them together; then max res was 1024x768. Because of this, the 3dfx miniGL driver that comes with Quake2 limits your resolution selection, so don't use it as it was designed with the limitations of the Voodoo 1 and 2 cards in mind. Instead, use Quake2's full OpenGL renderer for higher resolutions.
Thanks Metal Jesus, I was just talking with a friend the other day about doing this for all eras of PC's. I would love to get this PC running the Police Quest and LSL series, I know they used the booklets as copy protection, at least in some of the games. System Shock 2, such a classic.
Some classics that I remember having from my early childhood (I'm a fair bit younger than metal Jesus) and would like to play again, are Carmageddon and Redneck Rampage (because I loved both) and both the 7th guest and it's sequel the 11th hour (which I have no idea if they were good or not because a very young me could never got either working, but they really intrigued me none the less) but also some shooter game which name escapes me. It was set in the old west and I distinctly remember a level where you were running around some place with caves that was kind of like the grand canyon, looking for gold I think and having to fight bandits. If anyone knows the name of the game I would greatly appreciate them letting me know, because I loved it at the time. Great video anyway Metal Jesus. Keep up the good work.
Use Dosbox. I got 7th guest working on windows 10 now, also the ultima collection works perfect too. Rouge, myst, might and magic, elder scrolls, all work in Dosbox. No need to get an old pc really.
I still remember the first custom PC my dad got when I was a kid. It was an AMD and had enough speed to do anything I wanted finally. Prince of Persia played like a dream. First time having a tricked out case too, that even had drive bay locks. When I got older my dad's friend Alan (who built that custom PC) saw the new build I just made for my dad. I made him a sleeper TJ-08 because he's an accountant, but Alan saw the giant front intake a knew just by looking at it what was lurking underneath. He complimented the design of the build. That compliment still means so much to me. He was my PC building idol. Ah, good memories.
As someone who has a spending problem, I sincerely love your genuine care and excitement for ALL games. Whether it's the biggest AAA game, or obscure and niche forgotten gems. You see the value not in the dollar, but in the fun. Smiles per mile. 😇
Fine machine. I just have a feeling that a V3-3000 will not be used to it's max potential. Why P-II and not P-III-800? A bit more ultimate, would be a K6-3-plus, and V3-3500. For a really kick ass Win98. Then go for a P-III-Tualatin-1400, GF2-Ultra, 512mb Ram and V2-SLI. Or just get a V5-5000 instead of GF2/V2. Regarding the K6-3... It can be downclocked and the cache disabled to simulate a 486, even a 386. Then use a CL-5446 paired with a V2-SLI setup, for max compatibility with Dos/98 games from the entire 90's. For sound. Well... SB-Pro for early 90's. Use GUS as well, and get a real external midi setup. MT32/SC55. For Win98, then get an Vortex2. Now you only need to dual boot Dos-6.22 and Win98.
The level Nostalgia is UNREAL! Loved my windows 98. I used to play European air wars, Medal of Honor Allied Assault, All of the old Need for speeds including Porsche
Man Voodoo graphics card, sound blaster 16....I'm a teenager again. I.cant tell you how many times I sat through the windows 98 installation process because I'd screw something up fiddling with it! Love this video!!!
I really want one of these now so I can play Heretic, Full Throttle, Carmageddon & all the old school multipack games. Ive got the Discs but as of yet no means to play them :/
You just made my life better with this video. I remind myself all this good times of installing demos from PC magazine CD's and playing them enthusiastically.... No Master Race... no weird internet full of trolls... Just pure love for games!
Stunts is one of my all time favs. you can even build your own tracks. I used to play it on my 286 with a 16 color monitor. man those where the good old days
I was playing Quake1 back in 1998. Spear and Doom2 in 1995, Stunts in 1996. - I was quite unbeatable at it, we did a few championship (I was in college back then old guy). But you forgot Blood, best horror shooter for Dos. Quake 2 had the best gameplay. Until came Unreal 1 and 2 And Unreal Turnament. Unreal were tops. I am 48 now, fuck that.
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That's my childhood dream PC right there.
TISQUESUSA 🤨😀
I really need to get one myself.
AAAAAAAAH, yes the good old days, brings up a lot of memories! 😉
Suffocation no breathing....
Voodoo FTW :) :D
Wow this takes me back :-D I bet you'll see a fair few blue screens of death back on that 98 system!
Several all ready! One time, I just booted the machine cold and got a Windows Registry error FOR NO REASON!! Another reboot "fixed it". Ah the joys of Windows 98SE :)
MetalJesusRocks
I honestly don't get why you chose 98SE as OS for this machine. XP would be much more efficient and I haven't found a single DOS game that refuses to run one way or the other in XP.
Man I should boot up my old baby again...
Because 98 is just cooler. XD So why not
yelsew82
Because 98 has compatibility issues (software), tends to blue screen out, has less hardware support then XP and runs slower.
You're missing a big point. It's what he wanted. Also I think he already has an xp machine. >_>
Damn, I miss Windows 98. It's one of my favourite OS's ever.
@Stang5.0 killsya yeah, what prevents me from calling Win98 a favorite was the constant crashing... When I finally used XP, I remember my first impression of it being "oh it doesn't freeze anymore!!" But the Win98 themes and sounds blew XP out of the water xDDD
My early childhood was XP and I got vista then I lived mostly with windows 7 until I had to replace my machine with a modern day gaming computer 2 years ago because my old computer just could barely run Windows 7 by late 2016.
My first computer had Windows 98 so I do have a nostalgia feeling for it. However when Windows XP came out I immediately fell in love with it and did not really miss Windows 98 at all. XP was a lot more stable, 98 used to freeze up and crash a lot from what I remember.
Still better than the school pcs
Meh... I remember I have the powerfull PC in our class, and it has Windows 7 with 2 GB ram
My pc has a core 2 duo and pirated copy of windows xp.
@@alpanasaxena3870 nice joke xD
@MANIA Damn, only two gigs of ram?
Agreed
It's amazing how well most of those games have aged! Please, please do more videos showing us some of these classic PC titles.
In my opinion, vintage PC games are the real hidden gems. People are just now starting to tap into their awesomeness. Jill of the Jungle, Realms of Chaos and really anything that Apogee games and Epic made in the 90's are big-time winners. I'm excited what this means For your channel dude, pump out that 90s 'tude!
Shows "dirty" keyboard:
*I should clean it...
**will never do.
Re-PC is amazing.
They also have esoteric parts from non pc systems fairly often.
I recently upgraded my Mac G4 mystic with parts from Re-PC.
Nothing in the computer world has ever had an impression on me as the first time I popped a Voodoo2 into my PC and fired up Quake 2. That was the instant in time that I completely lost interest in consoles until a few years back.
Going from software rendering polygons to full 3D acceleration was MASSIVE. I remember applying the Rendition 3D patch to the original Tomb Raider and being BLOWN AWAY. It was like seeing a brand new game!
Did you have the Sierra Screamin 3D card (Rendition Verite V1000-E from Sierra?
I just won one at eBay in a bid a few days ago completely new in the shrink wrap.No one else noticed the bid and I won it for $5 plus $18 shipping.
Oh WOW, I frequent that RE:PC store (and the one in Seattle) daily! They sell wired mice for $1, wireless mice for $2, keyboards for $2, sound cards for $1 and so on. Lots of random tech treasures, but the best thing I found there was a fully functional Grundig Satellit 700 Ham Radio for $15 (worth about $300-$500 on eBay).
It's a great store
"Crank it up to 800 x 600" and all the modern HD gamers began to cry.
*fad boys
modern gamers don't realize that we used to game way above 60FPS though. It's the flat screen HD era/standard that castrated us.
Except for switch gamers. Those things drop all the way to 600p on tablet mode and some games struggle to output 720p docked.
@@quattro4468 yep, this is why I held out for the Switch Lite.
I guess I got used to an extremely old computer since I had since I was 5. It was fairly good when I got it but I had to replace it with a modern gaming pc because it couldn't run anything anymore
I enjoyed this video so much! Never thought to build my own "old school" gaming pc, definitely added to my to-do list! Also, I would love to see dedicated episodes to your PC Gamer demo discs! OMG the nostalgia ♥
this is my favorite topic you've covered in a while. I wish I still had my windows 3.1, win 98, & XP machines... really regret tossing those in the trash over the years.
Sickentist you could use a virtual PC and run any version of Windows you want. I have almost every version on Windows running on my W7 machine.
got 3dfx voodoo hardware compatibility on your virtual PC (or any working option to run games that need glide, opengl or directX?)
got REAL adlib sound and not some horrible sounding half assed emulation?
yeah, thought so.
if you are serious about playing retro PC games, a virtual machine does not cut it.
Kenji Umino I can't argue with that, you're right, gaming in a virtual PC is certainly not the ideal option.
janX9 - you're simply missing the point my friend. Are you not aware that what you speak of is common knowledge? Anyone can do that these days. Not everyone does this. This is called preserving history and a certain gaming era.
hey, i still run XP.....D
Nice machine! Looking forward on how you capture footage from it.
Thanks so much for this video. The nostalgia really hit me hard. I didnt know somewhere inside my mind the names of Voodoo and Soundblaster still were there... thank you.
98 was when I got my first PC. Your video brought back nice meories! Lovely game selection btw. Cheers!
You just opened a door. Now you'll need a 486 for Ultima VII and that 5 1/4" drive. You'll need a Roland MT-32 and an SC55...you'll love the audio. Matching monitor, keyboard, mouse. Then it gets crazy after that...more Retro PC Gaming videos are welcome. Tx.
That's just what I was thinking. Sierra games are amazing with MT-32.
Agree 100%. Origin and Sierra games sound amazing on Roland hardware.
The CM-500 is a good choice because it let's you switch between MT32 and SC mode in a single device!
YES! Awesome video. My family's first computer was in 1998, and we had a pair of 3DFX Voodoo 2's hooked up in SLI mode. PC Gamer provided us with plenty of games to play. MotoCross Madness, Age of Empires, Battlefield 1942...all great demos. Enough that you didn't even need the full game to enjoy them!
My favorite game of the time was Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight. It was built on the Quake II engine, but man, the game play and sound still hold up. X-wing vs TIE Fighter was my generation's answer to the old TIE fighter game, and it had a surprising amount of depth to it.
Long live 90's PC gaming!
I haven't logged into my TH-cam account in a very long time. I just wanted to say that this video brought me a lot of joy. Seeing that store, Re-PC, was like heaven for me. I've always considered myself to be the world's only "90s computer enthusiast", because nobody ever wants to talk about this stuff. Everybody says "Use a virtual machine or DOSbox", but it's just not the same to me. I've been wanting to do a project like this for a long time, but you know how it is. I'm still planning to do it. There's some valuable insight in this video.
Hey did you ever end up building your dream 90’s PC 5 years later?
RE-PC sounds like the exact kind of company I wish we had in VA.
Such great games back in the day. 7th Guest, TIE Fighter, and Cyberwar were awesome!
This is such a rad idea for a video
Thanks! I had a lot of fun making it
Oh the memories
Wow, time machine nostalgia en force. Thx Man!
Man you blow my mind, you have such an awesome life! The gaming PC is epic
"Nothin' really special here." Dude, the IntelliMouse is legendary.
Yeah, my mom got one back in the day when she got her Gateway 2000. We still have it. It’s a good mouse. (The one we have is beige, though. The space gray color of his is cool!)
Pink Gamer Princess yours very well could be gray too, just yellowed from long term use
@@gwenmichigander277 I have the same mouse too! Mine's a lighter silver though lol I really like the color of his
Sir, you are the best! So interesting to see such videos) Getting the nostalgy about the childhood.
Thanks for the trip down memory lane. Brought back a lot of great memories for me!
I've been meaning to do this for a while. I got so many games on floppy I have no way of installing on current computers. Would love to play them authentically too.
Tarks Gauntlet You can get an external usb floppy drive for your PC but if they going to work on windows 7 or 10 who knows.
korgpa4x korg just run them in dos box
U can run a virtual machine to play such games on a new pc just run windows 98 on the vm also their is a patch to fix the "run at 100% all the time" so u don't end up heating up the CPU to much as current computers aren't really designed to be maxed out at all times especially with things like turbo boost. However I'm not sure about gpu support on vm though.
Everybody knows about dosbox and scummvm and such, I just tend to chase the authentic experiences and my experiences with some of those programs have been very lack luster. Things like Dark Seed 2 in dosbox fucking up half the cinematics and other things like the phantasmagoria steam port (Which runs through dos box) having a glitch that deleted my save 20 minutes away from the end. Compatibility is not perfect and I'd rather deal with a new old PC than emulating.
get a icy-box. it turns every ide interfaced device in a usb drive.
Man, I love watching all of your videos. The production quality is great, it's like a TV show.
Great Video Dude! I remember this era fondly especially the jump from K62 to the P3 500. Wish I still had them both.
Man.. this really took me back.. Thanx so much for making this video!!!
This is what I've been wanting to get to play my old dos/win 98 games like Rama, warcraft 1,2,&3, dark forces, tie fighter, etc..
Warcraft 3 works on Windows 10
Update video ?? Longevity ? Loved it man hope to see more of it !
Great video. Speaking of game copy protection. I remember some games back in the day that came with a code wheel that you had to use figure out what code to enter to play the game.
Man my first PC was a 486DX @ 25mgh (33 with turbo button engaged) Kings Quest, Wolfenstein, Eye of the Beholder, Doom, Wing Commander, etc etc. for 15 year old it was heaven. Just getting the IRQ/DMA sound card/audio and the mouse to work was an achievement at times. I remember something about extended/expanded memory too. Thanks for making these videos, they're always a reminder of a very happy time of my life.
If I lived in the Seattle area I'd love to browse around RE-PC, would be like a kid in a candy store :D Look forward to you reviewing more retro PC games from this time, rock on!
They have a couple locations here in Seattle...and it's a wonderland!
You could set up the windows xp pc you got there too dualboot windows 98 se fairly easily as well if you change out the ram too max 512 mb (id go for 386 mb a 256 mb stick + 128 mb.) & add in another soundcard that's a bit more compatible or has good general midi support.
& with the generic usb storage drivers you get pretty good storage capabilities too.
www.philscomputerlab.com/windows-98-usb-storage-driver.html
Got it running fairly well on my pentium mmx machine with a old pci too usb interface card, though you better let it work moving files, installing something from the external harddrive (sata too usb enclosure btw.)
(Fat32 partitioned ofc too 60 gb here.) or a usb drive can be used as well. (got a 32 gb stick working fine for it unless i happen to make it freeze by doing something else on it while waiting for the files too move over.)
I've never been more sold on old school pc gaming. Having an authentic 90s rig sounds awesome
Its amazing how much you forget when looking back over what you used to game with, 1998 seems so long ago now but golden time right in the boom of the pc world, i totally forgot about those copy protection things like looking in manuals for words or looking at colour wheels etc, they used to do the same on the amiga, good days
Re-PC what a place! we don't get things like that here in the uk
I need this and a 486 DOS machine. Those two platforms are almost my entire childhood in gaming (I had consoles as well, but nothing like PC).
dude, I got heavy childhood flashbacks :D
Sweet looking system you've got there!
Here's the one I put together for my 43rd birthday in 2017:
Celeron 400A Socket 370 CPU (from my first ever PC)
Tyan Tomahawk 440 BX Socket 370 motherboard
512MB (2x256MB) Kingston PC100 SDRAM
128MB Palit GeForce 4 MX 440 128-bit AGP graphics card
Turtle Beach Montego II Aureal Vortex 2 based PCI sound card
Yamaha Audician 32 Plus OPL3 based 16-bit ISA sound card
Intel 536EP PCI modem card (from my first ever PC, just because)
3Com 3C905-TX (Rev B) PCI network card
Belkin USB 2.0 PCI card
Firewire PCI card
40GB WD400BB system PATA HDD
120GB WD120BB data PATA HDD
Lite-On DVD Combo PATA optical drive (beige)
Lite-On DVD-ROM PATA optical drive (beige)
Sitecom USB 2.0 front ports & card reader bay (beige)
Mitsumi 1.44MB floppy drive (beige)
My first ever PC's blue & beige midi tower PC case
Mercury 400W ATX PSU
Belkin red and yellow rounded PATA cables
Belkin green rounded floppy cable
Startech (& original) CD drive audio cables
Startech CPU cooler & fan
Coolermaster 80mm double ball bearing case fan
(with Akasa 80mm fan filter & chrome grill)
Windows 98 Second Edition
Ooh! WipeOut 2097 too!
Outtheredude why did u build it
Wienerlord To rebuild my first PC, based around my first PC's original processor, but with additional parts I couldn't get the first time round, for running old Win98se and DOS software.
Outtheredude ohh nice :)
yay i used to have that graphics card.it was pure shit even back then...
Metal Jesus how could you take out the clip of you rockin out on the stage, always in the beginning of your intro. That was the best clip you gotta find a way to insert it in somewhere, ITS THE BEST!!
Aw man, that Re-PC warehouse looks so awesome. I wish we had one of those here. We do have Frys and Micro Center, but nothing like that.. That would be so great
OMG. I built something like this in middle school. So many memories of playing jedi knight
Im 31, this takes me back to my"BLOOD, DUKE NUKEM, WOKFENSTEIN, DOOM, DIABLO" days.....but certain explosions and my parents computer would freeze. hahaha.
Although a much newer game, when F.E.A.R first came out, my computer at the time was not good enough and grenade explosions would completely crash the computer every time. I love the memory of that.
That warehouse PC place is *amazing* ! I'd be like a kid in a toy store, wandering through that place.
You took me back to my childhood that I totally forgot about. Thank you.
So I was inspired to build one too.
AMD Athlon 700MHz
128MB PC133 SDRAM
320GB WD 5400RPM IDE HDD
3DFx Voodoo3 2000 16MB AGP
Asus A7V133
Sound Blaster Live 5.1
LG DVD Rom
LG 52x32x52x CD Burner
17 inch Dell CRT Monitor
3.5-inch floppy drive
Old Beige Case and 350 Watt PSU
Grand total $220... I guess I got a decent deal, but it's hard to tell sometimes. I went to a few stores and in the classifieds for all the parts. Everything runs great and works stable, so no complaints here. Love having 3DFx to play old games like Unreal and Monster Truck Madness.
God I would have killed for that PC as a kid! Sweet set up.
Does it run better than Dosbox?
Wish we have Voodoos easy and cheap here. All other parts are great.
1998..... 320 GB + 52x32x52 + DVD ROM? I don't think so
that's a good system!!
Still better than my school pcs
Anything from pre 1720-2017 is better that school pc's
Beter than my smartphone
if your school has PCs from 2003 and down, then it very likely is better than them. This is the top of the line back then, so it'd still hold up for a while after.
My school has Lenovo ThinkCentre all-in-ones with Windows 7. I believe it has a Pentium D, some of the computers have a Pentium D sticker and some don't. They all appear to be the exact same model, though.
We have the MacBook late 2015 ones but when we fuck one of our Macs up we get a fucking ThinkPad with windows 7
so many memories from this video. i actually have all the original software and parts laying around to build a system and play all my old stuff. i might just have to give this a go some day.
I've been messing around with PCem emulator lately running Windows 98 SE. The nostalgia has been unreal! The games from that era are still as fun to play now. I can't believe your computer was only a couple of hundred bucks! I'd love to do the same sometime and ship it up to Atlantic Canada
In my opinion, this is one of the greatest TH-cam videos out there. Such a simple but fantastically fun idea. Love your work, bro!
A word of warning regarding the power supply in this PC: it uses ATX connectors with non-standard wiring, much like many other Dell computers from this time. Attempting to use a standard ATX power supply with the Dell motherboard, or vice versa, may destroy the power supply and/or motherboard used. Keep this in mind if the power supply breaks or a new motherboard is required.
It actually does not, I connected a standard ATX PSU to a Dell Dimension 4100 Motherboard and the motherboard caused the PSU to smoke. Dell was smart enough back in the day.
When I tried this a while back, the PSU whined loudly, but I was able to switch it of without damage to either component, thankfully.
I believe it is possible to move the pins around or make an adapter out of an arc extension cable. There is a pin removal tool that pushes the pins out of the arc moles connector. Just look up the pinout online.
Awesome video man, makes me remember so many games and all the computers we used to have :)
I just bought an old dell pc running XP so I could play some of my old games that I loved like Shivers! I found your video telling about you being in the video! How cool! Today I'm looking up how to expand on my new/old pc and I found another video by you! I'm new to doing this kind of thing. Hopefully I can learn some stuff from your videos.
Regarding NFS: Porsche Unleashed - did you play online with the rest of the PU fans back in the day? If so were you a member of any of the [??] teams? I was one of the founders of Team[RS] and had a lot of fun playing it online up until EA finally shut it down for good. 'Course one of the members of Team[RS] eventually came up with "IPLounge" which allowed for online play again. Yep, them were the days. Oh and I was known (originally) as Alt-F4 which when I joined the team became [RS]Alt. Cheers !
Why are you so awesome with this stuff?
It would be great if you could somehow reverse time and record footage of Napster, Netscape Navigator, and AOL Channels while you were at it! Maybe even dig into some CompuServe and Prodigy! :P
i have some old pc hardware laying from the late 90s and early 2000s i used netscape a week ago. im thinking of visiting this store and buying some hardware and imitating what MJR did in this video.
Surfing the web on Prodigy on my uncle's old Windows laptop was my first taste of the Internet in 1995. I was 8 going on 9.
Audio Galaxy was so fucking awesome!
That Bald Gamer Dude! Those where the days! I didn't get my own computer until I was 18 back in 1998. I had all that stuff. I taught myself HTML. I designed website graphics and fan art in Paint Shop Pro with a mouse!
Wow man with this comment you brought me back 20 years. Naps ter :) good old days downloading music with 56k modem
man the best thing about games back then was the great attention to music, quake 2 had such great and compelling music..
Thx so much for posting this! I can’t wait to build mine and play KOTOR 1&2. Buying my 90s games back. There were a lot of good ones from this time. I have the Wing commander series up to the Price of freedom.
Hey I had proche unleashed too, I rememer thinking at the time "wow, these raplays look just like real life! its like watching the sports channel" XD
Should have just talked to LGR
I was going to write the same thing lol
I actually talk about this PC in an upcoming LGR video. Clint will release it soon!
nice!
MetalJesusRocks looking forward to it!
Great vid! Takes me right back to my first MMX chipset machine running Win95 and an Apache flight sim called Janes Longbow Gold. Great times.. apart from updating drivers every 10 mins!
5:30 That software rendering is *exactly* how I remember Quake 2! That nostalgia!
So to all the people saying you overpaid. Their pricing assumptions are based on the cost of parts to them on ebay or getting them from scrappers and don't include the time of the technician and the cost of having a brick and motor store and the fact that the owner still has to turn some sort of profit. I was a little disappointed you didn't go ahead and build it yourself because it's more fun. What you really paid for was for a technician to choose all the parts, test all the parts, burn in the system and make sure all the parts were quality, install the OS and drivers and so on. The Voodoo3 and the SB16 are worth about 60-90 on ebay combined. The value of all the other parts is pretty much negligible maybe 10-20 for all the other parts combined. The rest of what you paid for what the work that went into it. So all things being equal you didn't get a bad deal considering to take a computer into a reputable shop to have work done on it costs pretty much a minimum of 50 dollars just to take it in the door.
I bought 10 of these voodoo 3 for 25€ and an SB16 for 2€ last summer, these ebay prices are total bullshit and nobody should pay them (and I'm pretty sure most people don't pay these prices either, these are just offers at 60-90$, not the price people really pay)
I can build a better system for 20€. Just give me some time to find all the good deals and that's it.
As for the technician, you're right, he has to be paid, but there are so many other ways to do the same thing for much cheaper ...
The problem with retro PCs is that you should know how to do it, even if you don't like it, because it's not because they found parts that work well now that they'll still be up and running later. Capacitors go bad, PSUs go bad, HDDs go bad, Windows 98 can go really wrong, and configuring your hardware often needs some comprehension to be done right.
You don't need any grade in IT, but knowing how thing can fail, and how to fix it is almost a requirement imo, otherwise you won't keep your retro PC for really long.
No I wasn't particulary addressing to you, but to your reasoning.
A car is more useful than a retro computer, and they cost much more. But
fixing them can take hours, while fixing a retro PC can take minutes. If
you don't know how to fix your retro computer, you'll end up spending
tons of money in a hobby and probably loosing more time than if you
fixed it yourself.
And I didn't meant that lack of joy = lack of knowledge/skill, that's just what happened to metaljesus I presume. (maybe I just misunderstood that though), but if doing something you find boring for few hours spares you 90% of what you would have paid instead, I don't think you'd choose the other choice (unless you have enough money to spare and that you're lazy which I can understand)
Why build a super powered pc, able to play any game for the next 5 years when you can go back and play pinball again.
PS: This stuff brings me back as a young kid using a pc for the first time.
i just found your chanel today and gosh you do make me miss my old sierra game (police quest king quest larry ect)
That's awesome! I've been wanting to build one of these for a while. I wish I had one of those shops here.
Holy crap.... no one remembers Stunts! Now we just need Commander Keen
I used to spend hours building tracks on that game back in my younger days..Good times....Space Quest and Leisure Suit Larry games are still my favorite PC titles though...
Because i never did play it LOL. i was alway playing NFS and gran turismo on ps1 hehee
I remember stunts, never played it.
But I played Hard Drivin' all the time in the Arcades!
You do know Commander Keen is on Steam right?
Stunts was amazing. In that days i was too little to play this type of games, so only thing i did during every play was damaging car and breaking the front window. It wass still fun though... :D
MJR you're a MASSIVE LEGEND
Noah Rogers I so agree with you!
Spooky Skeletons 😅 I noticed
You really made me remember the past, the good times that happened with my dad .. thanks!
Ah, that is a nice beast! I just completed my own old DOs machine (486), and its always a joy to go back in time.
LGR would cry at the amount of pc’s he could mess with in that store! Haha
I've invited Clint out to Seattle, offered to driving him around. We'll see if we can make it happen
Id say clint has a bigger big box collection
MetalJesusRocks, invite Phil from Phil's Computer Lab to join you as well while you at it. If he travels to NA, that is. Very retro PC focused YT channel author who might offer an interesting fusion episode which can lend additional insight into improving on your Retro PC build.
A single Voodoo2's max res in GLide was 800x600 unless you SLI'd two of them together; then max res was 1024x768. Because of this, the 3dfx miniGL driver that comes with Quake2 limits your resolution selection, so don't use it as it was designed with the limitations of the Voodoo 1 and 2 cards in mind. Instead, use Quake2's full OpenGL renderer for higher resolutions.
nGlide
Thanks Metal Jesus, I was just talking with a friend the other day about doing this for all eras of PC's. I would love to get this PC running the Police Quest and LSL series, I know they used the booklets as copy protection, at least in some of the games. System Shock 2, such a classic.
New to this channel, glad i stumbled across this guy! Such great content.
Some classics that I remember having from my early childhood (I'm a fair bit younger than metal Jesus) and would like to play again, are Carmageddon and Redneck Rampage (because I loved both) and both the 7th guest and it's sequel the 11th hour (which I have no idea if they were good or not because a very young me could never got either working, but they really intrigued me none the less) but also some shooter game which name escapes me. It was set in the old west and I distinctly remember a level where you were running around some place with caves that was kind of like the grand canyon, looking for gold I think and having to fight bandits. If anyone knows the name of the game I would greatly appreciate them letting me know, because I loved it at the time. Great video anyway Metal Jesus. Keep up the good work.
Use Dosbox. I got 7th guest working on windows 10 now, also the ultima collection works perfect too. Rouge, myst, might and magic, elder scrolls, all work in Dosbox. No need to get an old pc really.
7th Guest and 11th Hour are both available on Steam.
I for one am curious about how the capture process works for your "new" old pc.. please make a video on it!
I still remember the first custom PC my dad got when I was a kid. It was an AMD and had enough speed to do anything I wanted finally. Prince of Persia played like a dream. First time having a tricked out case too, that even had drive bay locks. When I got older my dad's friend Alan (who built that custom PC) saw the new build I just made for my dad. I made him a sleeper TJ-08 because he's an accountant, but Alan saw the giant front intake a knew just by looking at it what was lurking underneath. He complimented the design of the build. That compliment still means so much to me. He was my PC building idol. Ah, good memories.
A great trip down memory lane. Thank you for this.
Maaan, this is making me regret having had to toss out my two old 90's PCs.
I feel you on graphics nostalgia. I watched some Syphon Filter gameplay from PS1 and was shocked. I remember it looking so much better.
As someone who has a spending problem, I sincerely love your genuine care and excitement for ALL games. Whether it's the biggest AAA game, or obscure and niche forgotten gems. You see the value not in the dollar, but in the fun.
Smiles per mile. 😇
Sweet! Nice Build Voodoo card are the most seeked , Love the Old PC Demo Disks ! I have Quite a few ! collected over the years since the mid 90s
Does the host remind anyone of Gregg Turkington from “On cinema at the cinema” with Tim Heidecker?
Fine machine. I just have a feeling that a V3-3000 will not be used to it's max potential. Why P-II and not P-III-800? A bit more ultimate, would be a K6-3-plus, and V3-3500. For a really kick ass Win98. Then go for a P-III-Tualatin-1400, GF2-Ultra, 512mb Ram and V2-SLI. Or just get a V5-5000 instead of GF2/V2. Regarding the K6-3... It can be downclocked and the cache disabled to simulate a 486, even a 386. Then use a CL-5446 paired with a V2-SLI setup, for max compatibility with Dos/98 games from the entire 90's. For sound. Well... SB-Pro for early 90's. Use GUS as well, and get a real external midi setup. MT32/SC55. For Win98, then get an Vortex2. Now you only need to dual boot Dos-6.22 and Win98.
The level Nostalgia is UNREAL! Loved my windows 98. I used to play European air wars, Medal of Honor Allied Assault, All of the old Need for speeds including Porsche
The first TV I bought is similar to your JVC TV in the background! Cool
dude i just bought a psp because of your psp videos!
Love it! Remember Airborn Ranger? ;)
Oh yeah! Although I played it on the C64. Fun game.
Man Voodoo graphics card, sound blaster 16....I'm a teenager again. I.cant tell you how many times I sat through the windows 98 installation process because I'd screw something up fiddling with it! Love this video!!!
Darn you Metal Jesus and your awesome videos! I wasn't even planning on watching this. I totally opened TH-cam to check out a different video.
I really want one of these now so I can play Heretic, Full Throttle, Carmageddon & all the old school multipack games.
Ive got the Discs but as of yet no means to play them :/
I will have to find a cheat code for Carmageddon so I can spend all day jumping on top of those rooftops
I have two Compaq's
You just made my life better with this video. I remind myself all this good times of installing demos from PC magazine CD's and playing them enthusiastically.... No Master Race... no weird internet full of trolls... Just pure love for games!
I dream to visit this store one day, I can only imagine how many cool equipments you can find it there. Great video as always.
Stunts is one of my all time favs. you can even build your own tracks. I used to play it on my 286 with a 16 color monitor. man those where the good old days
PC and metal? How haven't I found you before
I was playing Quake1 back in 1998. Spear and Doom2 in 1995, Stunts in 1996. - I was quite unbeatable at it, we did a few championship (I was in college back then old guy). But you forgot Blood, best horror shooter for Dos.
Quake 2 had the best gameplay. Until came Unreal 1 and 2 And Unreal Turnament. Unreal were tops.
I am 48 now, fuck that.
3:40 OMG!!! I REMEMBER THE OLD VOODOO 3!!! remember getting so excited to get one too to run need for speed 3 in full graphical detail :D
I love the 90's computer nostalgia. Awesome video. But when you look how far PC components have come, it's just amazing. lol