Jimmy Page may be controversial, but no one can deny his influence on Led Zeppelin and the entire rock music scene. Whether live or in the studio, his music continues to stand the test of time
Page wrote the guitar parts for "The Rain Song." Blackmore never composed anything as complicated or as beautiful as "The Rain Song." Not to mention "Stairway." To me Page is better than Blackmore.
@@robertgarcia3031 you have to separate guitar playing , with all the other facets of being a musician , no one is better or worse, when you’re at their level of musicianship, so next step , Rain song Achilles etc are compositions of guitar Keyboards. Drumming , that elevate the songs , straight rock guitar playing, their in the same league, but for the whole song and diversity, Page and Zeppelin, are in a league of their own , respect to Ritchie !!!
Jealous is what I see from Blackmore & Richards, they both knew Page was better than them. Yes later in Led Zeppelin there were some conflicts, two wanted to go in one direction, & two in another. Stop acting like Jimmy was the only addicted musician, thankfully he survived & overcame his addictions. The Rolling Stones still touring, still aren’t as great as Led Zeppelin. Deep Purple, some great songs, but not the top of the trifecta many mention. Jimmy’s multi musical genius outshines them all, playing writing producing mixing etc. JPJ chose to be more behind the scenes, but fans know of his genius & contributions.
My only complaint about Page is his theft of riffs from blues greats without compensation or even praise and acknowledgement of the Blues great’s he stole them from. Clapton and the Stones did a lot to be sure these men got the attention and respect they deserved. Also , even though the estate of Randy California lost the lawsuit about the lifting the acoustic guitar prelude to Stairway to Heaven from Spirits song Taurus. Listen and compare the two songs and tell me you can’t hear the similarities. It’s not a coincidence that they were on the same bill together often in 68 and 69 and Page heard it played at the shows they did together .
@ Page could could improvise amazingly live, creating even greater solos on the spot, & fall right back into the song. I guess we each have our favorites, & Page is mine.
@@RonaldJohnson-p4r well a court decided they were different. I’m guess he figured songs were different enough, & didn’t know he had to give credit. Odd how those like you, forget all the other great songs & masterpieces he/they created.
Blackmore is a great guitar player no doubt , and he praised Page from as far back when Jimmy was a studio musician, both great players , but Jimmy has so much more that he brings to the table , he almost single handed, put arguably the greatest debut album, especially considering that was an inventive time 1968 , sept until April 69 at Fillmore was the number one band , beating the Beatles by the begging of 1970 , after the first album took off then Zeppelin became the group effort , but with out Pages vision of what he wanted , picking the best musicians that shared his vision . He doesn’t get enough credit , he’s not just a riff master , he almost single handed changed rock music , not Hendrix not , Blackmore , not Clapton or Beck could have done what he did , some might be better players , or this and that , but he piloted the thing at the beginning, his money , his connections, his business savvy, all those things had to come together For them to get a chance. Amazing ,
Page is a thieving git who never ensured royalties were paid for songs & riffs he stole. A great creative guitarist, but technically lacking, even then.
Blackmore also stole heavily and didn't pay anybody their due. His most famous riff was a direct lift of Carlos Lyra's song "Maria Moita". But, at least Blackmore admits to stealing ideas. Having said that, they did both turn something simple into rock classics.
@@NorsePJPurple stole parts from Smoke on the Water, Fireball, Black Night, Child In Time etc and never credited. Luckily they weren't sued. They got away with it.
Both greatest guitarist of all time. Very defferent styles, but Richie was definitely more technically proficient. Remember Jimmy created the music for Led zeppelin. I think it was jealousy from Richie. It's like comparing Neil Peart to John Bonham.
If anyone says Jimmy page is technically bad or sloppy, I know they can't play a guitar, or they have no idea how to play good lead. The solo in No Quarter live is likely the greatest of all time.
Bass-ist? a largemouth bass-ist? Come on. I doubt it was any kind of a "rivalry" I mean they aren't beating each other up on a football pitch. They have opinions about each other and that's normal. They do that all the time. people do that all the time. Both were stratospheric in their skills and both should be respected and enjoyed for what they created. For me Jon Lord and Ritchie were the best one-two sonic punch ever put together. Does not mean I like Zeppelin and page any less.
Where is the source to this? Sounds like "Golden stars" have built up a lie around some remarks that Blackmore has made at some point. Besides, "Blackmore's precision vs. Page's improvisational style". If the person who wrote the script to this mumbo jumbo knew anything about these guys's playing styles they would instead high-light that Page's style is more loose. SInce about have alot of improvisation in their playing. I absolutly HATE this type of made up "documentaries".
Why can't talented people see that music has many aveanews to go down, just except that fact and let it go, most people of fame are spoiled little egotistical maniacs with inferiority complexes
Blackmore is an ego, yes, but nothing wrong with being ego in the music business. We would never get THAT music if not. BUT if you notice in this video we never get to know where they have taken the "info" from. And we never hear Blackmore say anything in this video. Even if he has been critical at some point, no doubt he has things about Page, but the persons behind the video is clearly making a goose out of a feather.
GRFrailroad was forced to stopp their act as opening band for LZ by LZ-manager Peter Grant, because Grant knew immediately that LZ could never top GF. Farner and Brewer then watched the LZ-performance and said that they watched two posers. Live unbearbable for me to watch a singer in a ridiculous bolero jacket with just one pose only LZ is the Numberone rock band of all time. However, I always prefered Deep Purple and Blackmore. Greg Lake once said: show me a successfull band and I show you a band that fights.
Glen Campbell, Roy Clark, Jeff Beck, Terry Kath, Duane Allman, Prince, Paco de Lucía, Al Di Meola, Eddie Van Halen, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Buckethead, and Ritchie Blackmore could play circles around the most overrated, over-hyped, guitar player called Jimmy Page. Just listen to "Made in Japan" and compare and contrast it with "The Song Remains the Same" (the original vinyl release not the edited re-issue) ! Page is also a proven plagiarist; look at the songwriting credits on Zeppelin's original album releases and compare them to the songwriting credits on Zeppelin's re-issues. NOTICE ANY DIFFERENCE ????? There it is in written form for all the world to see that Led Zeppelin were the biggest douche bags in popular music ! When the Rolling Stones, Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, Stevie Ray Vaughn, and Van Halen covered other people's songs they,unlike Led Zeppelin, gave credit where credit was due ! It's called integrity, something Jimmy Page never had !
DANNY GATTON, Lenny Breau, Django Reinhardt, Wes Montgomery, Scotty Anderson, Johny Smith, Hank Garland, Jeff Beck, Alan Holdsworth, John Williams, Jimmy Bryant, Jerry Reed, Roy Clark, Frank Gamballe, Guthrie Govan, Matteo Mancuso, Greg Koch, SRV, Steve Morse, Eric Johnson, Brent Mason, Chet Atkins, Glen Campbell, Michael Schenker, Eddie Van Halen, Randy Rhodes, Uli Jon Roth, Yngwie Malmsteen, Gary Moore, Richie Blackmore, Johny Winter, BBKing, George Bensen, Pat Martino, Joe Pass, Alvin Lee, Rory Gallagher, Julian Bream, Andy Wood, Josh Smith, Richard Smith, Michael Hedges, Tommy Emanuel, Doyle Dykes.
That is a helluva list, all masters of the craft, but You missed one. Chet Atkins. I once saw him play two songs at the same time. He said he did it because he didn't have time to play each one. 😃 Twinkle little star and mary had a little lamb, one play high and one played low. Then reversed them,
Jimmy was "very loose" playing live. His party high at that time was usually whiskey and LSD and it really took a toll on his guitar prowess. Actually, I don't think his brain ever really fully recovered. But Jimmy's talent was in his studio work, where he felt most comfortable.
Jimmy's forte was playing live for three hours and having the talent and genius for coming up with stuff on the spot and never playing the same things over and over again. You never hear an identical version of a song live. They are all different. Zeppelin were unique.
Jimmy Page may be controversial, but no one can deny his influence on Led Zeppelin and the entire rock music scene. Whether live or in the studio, his music continues to stand the test of time
They stole almost everything. Most Led Zeppelin hits were stolen. Page has been constantly sued over this.
Blackmore is jealous of Page’s success and wealth.
Page wrote the guitar parts for "The Rain Song." Blackmore never composed anything as complicated or as beautiful as "The Rain Song." Not to mention "Stairway." To me Page is better than Blackmore.
The Rain Song is without doubt one of the greatest songs ever written, regardless of genre. Truly stunning....
Ten Years Gone and Kashmir as well. Next level compared to Purple.
@@robertgarcia3031 you have to separate guitar playing , with all the other facets of being a musician , no one is better or worse, when you’re at their level of musicianship, so next step , Rain song Achilles etc are compositions of guitar Keyboards. Drumming , that elevate the songs , straight rock guitar playing, their in the same league, but for the whole song and diversity, Page and Zeppelin, are in a league of their own , respect to Ritchie !!!
@@22julip Well said.
As far as technical proficiency and mastery of the guitar, Blackmore was light years ahead of Page.
Pretty obvious. Anyone who doesn't know is kidding themselves.
Bet your ass he was! Still love Rainbow too
RB tunes were much less complicated, not to mention how many people did he piss off?
Never composed anything worth a damn. And Page was equally great on the acoustic.
Jealous is what I see from Blackmore & Richards, they both knew Page was better than them. Yes later in Led Zeppelin there were some conflicts, two wanted to go in one direction, & two in another. Stop acting like Jimmy was the only addicted musician, thankfully he survived & overcame his addictions.
The Rolling Stones still touring, still aren’t as great as Led Zeppelin. Deep Purple, some great songs, but not the top of the trifecta many mention. Jimmy’s multi musical genius outshines them all, playing writing producing mixing etc. JPJ chose to be more behind the scenes, but fans know of his genius & contributions.
You think Page was a better guitarist than Black more ? Interesting. Blackmores talent is undeniable...but Page was a wiz, in the studio. 🤔
My only complaint about Page is his theft of riffs from blues greats without compensation or even praise and acknowledgement of the Blues great’s he stole them from. Clapton and the Stones did a lot to be sure these men got the attention and respect they deserved. Also , even though the estate of Randy California lost the lawsuit about the lifting the acoustic guitar prelude to Stairway to Heaven from Spirits song Taurus. Listen and compare the two songs and tell me you can’t hear the similarities. It’s not a coincidence that they were on the same bill together often in 68 and 69 and Page heard it played at the shows they did together .
@ Page could could improvise amazingly live, creating even greater solos on the spot, & fall right back into the song. I guess we each have our favorites, & Page is mine.
@@RonaldJohnson-p4r well a court decided they were different. I’m guess he figured songs were different enough, & didn’t know he had to give credit. Odd how those like you, forget all the other great songs & masterpieces he/they created.
Blackmore is a great guitar player no doubt , and he praised Page from as far back when Jimmy was a studio musician, both great players , but Jimmy has so much more that he brings to the table , he almost single handed, put arguably the greatest debut album, especially considering that was an inventive time 1968 , sept until April 69 at Fillmore was the number one band , beating the Beatles by the begging of 1970 , after the first album took off then Zeppelin became the group effort , but with out Pages vision of what he wanted , picking the best musicians that shared his vision . He doesn’t get enough credit , he’s not just a riff master , he almost single handed changed rock music , not Hendrix not , Blackmore , not Clapton or Beck could have done what he did , some might be better players , or this and that , but he piloted the thing at the beginning, his money , his connections, his business savvy, all those things had to come together For them to get a chance. Amazing ,
They didn't like him because he was talked about too much and was famous,etc ! Who cares really !!
precision does it right every time and creativity does it once right every time
Painting a fictional picture that Page cares what Blackmore has to say.
@@64north20west thing is, Page never stoops that low to criticize others, only the jealous do that.
When people attack the greatest band of all time, they don't know they are attacking a legend. Every great man or legend has a flaw.
Ole ritche sore that Pagey bought crowley home before he could
1:11 is NOT Ritchie Blackmore.
Page is a thieving git who never ensured royalties were paid for songs & riffs he stole. A great creative guitarist, but technically lacking, even then.
Blackmore also stole heavily and didn't pay anybody their due. His most famous riff was a direct lift of Carlos Lyra's song "Maria Moita". But, at least Blackmore admits to stealing ideas. Having said that, they did both turn something simple into rock classics.
@@NorsePJPurple stole parts from Smoke on the Water, Fireball, Black Night, Child In Time etc and never credited. Luckily they weren't sued. They got away with it.
Spinal tap was mostly inspired by deep purple they're a joke compared to zeppelin
Yeah in Spinal Tap the guitarist plays his guitar with a violin; rightfully mocking Jimmy Page's idiotic gimmick.
LOL !
You completely missed the jokes in Spinal Tap, like Nigel playing with a violin. The solo was a swipe at Page and Blackmore.
They both worked their asses off i know that!
Both greatest guitarist of all time. Very defferent styles, but Richie was definitely more technically proficient. Remember Jimmy created the music for Led zeppelin. I think it was jealousy from Richie. It's like comparing Neil Peart to John Bonham.
If anyone says Jimmy page is technically bad or sloppy, I know they can't play a guitar, or they have no idea how to play good lead. The solo in No Quarter live is likely the greatest of all time.
ITS ALL ABOUT JIMMY ,RICH WAS MISSED OUT 😊
Bass-ist? a largemouth bass-ist? Come on. I doubt it was any kind of a "rivalry" I mean they aren't beating each other up on a football pitch. They have opinions about each other and that's normal. They do that all the time. people do that all the time. Both were stratospheric in their skills and both should be respected and enjoyed for what they created. For me Jon Lord and Ritchie were the best one-two sonic punch ever put together. Does not mean I like Zeppelin and page any less.
Theatrics can just distract from the playing. In the classical music world, theatrics aren't taken seriously. Why are they necessary?
So you’re saying they were a rock band that had arguments and drug use….very enlightening …
Zeppelin Rules !!!
Ritchey Blackmore? Never heard of her.
Where is the source to this? Sounds like "Golden stars" have built up a lie around some remarks that Blackmore has made at some point. Besides, "Blackmore's precision vs. Page's improvisational style". If the person who wrote the script to this mumbo jumbo knew anything about these guys's playing styles they would instead high-light that Page's style is more loose. SInce about have alot of improvisation in their playing. I absolutly HATE this type of made up "documentaries".
Why can't talented people see that music has many aveanews to go down, just except that fact and let it go, most people of fame are spoiled little egotistical maniacs with inferiority complexes
Blackmore is an ego, yes, but nothing wrong with being ego in the music business. We would never get THAT music if not. BUT if you notice in this video we never get to know where they have taken the "info" from. And we never hear Blackmore say anything in this video. Even if he has been critical at some point, no doubt he has things about Page, but the persons behind the video is clearly making a goose out of a feather.
Jimmy stole songs from friends, heros, and traditional arrangements.
Who did nt
I take that back. I read something? That doesn't mean anything.
Ok. I still wasn't there and I can't prove anything. Only Blackmore knows lol.
GRFrailroad was forced to stopp their act as opening band for LZ by LZ-manager Peter Grant, because Grant knew immediately that LZ could never top GF. Farner and Brewer then watched the LZ-performance and said that they watched two posers. Live unbearbable for me to watch a singer in a ridiculous bolero jacket with just one pose only LZ is the Numberone rock band of all time. However, I always prefered Deep Purple and Blackmore. Greg Lake once said: show me a successfull band and I show you a band that fights.
Glen Campbell, Roy Clark, Jeff Beck, Terry Kath, Duane Allman, Prince, Paco de Lucía, Al Di Meola, Eddie Van Halen, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Buckethead, and Ritchie Blackmore could play circles around the most overrated, over-hyped, guitar player called Jimmy Page.
Just listen to "Made in Japan" and compare and contrast it with "The Song Remains the Same" (the original vinyl release not the edited re-issue) !
Page is also a proven plagiarist; look at the songwriting credits on Zeppelin's original album releases and compare them to the songwriting credits on Zeppelin's re-issues. NOTICE ANY DIFFERENCE ?????
There it is in written form for all the world to see that Led Zeppelin were the biggest douche bags in popular music !
When the Rolling Stones, Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, Stevie Ray Vaughn, and Van Halen covered other people's songs they,unlike Led Zeppelin, gave credit where credit was due !
It's called integrity, something Jimmy Page never had !
DANNY GATTON, Lenny Breau, Django Reinhardt, Wes Montgomery, Scotty Anderson, Johny Smith, Hank Garland, Jeff Beck, Alan Holdsworth, John Williams, Jimmy Bryant, Jerry Reed, Roy Clark, Frank Gamballe, Guthrie Govan, Matteo Mancuso, Greg Koch, SRV, Steve Morse, Eric Johnson, Brent Mason, Chet Atkins, Glen Campbell, Michael Schenker, Eddie Van Halen, Randy Rhodes, Uli Jon Roth, Yngwie Malmsteen, Gary Moore, Richie Blackmore, Johny Winter, BBKing, George Bensen, Pat Martino, Joe Pass, Alvin Lee, Rory Gallagher, Julian Bream, Andy Wood, Josh Smith, Richard Smith, Michael Hedges, Tommy Emanuel, Doyle Dykes.
Love Jimmy ! Yoohoo
That is a helluva list, all masters of the craft, but You missed one. Chet Atkins. I once saw him play two songs at the same time. He said he did it because he didn't have time to play each one. 😃 Twinkle little star and mary had a little lamb, one play high and one played low. Then reversed them,
This is false information.
Shameful.
Do your homework, son
This is a load of bollocks. Totally misinformed
Wrong
False
Incorrect
Ritchie is a goofball kids.
Jimmy was "very loose" playing live. His party high at that time was usually whiskey and LSD and it really took a toll on his guitar prowess. Actually, I don't think his brain ever really fully recovered. But Jimmy's talent was in his studio work, where he felt most comfortable.
Actually it was mostly Jack Daniels and heroin, not LSD
Jimmy's forte was playing live for three hours and having the talent and genius for coming up with stuff on the spot and never playing the same things over and over again. You never hear an identical version of a song live. They are all different. Zeppelin were unique.
The greatest guitarist is Steve Howe.