I wonder if these reworks will only make the balance gap only bigger. It does look sick! PC users would love to hear more news of the PC port though! Max, what´s your favorite rework of the KI cast now?
glad they finally buffed kan ras shadow sand spike and did something with his sand tornado, but man the overall damage nerf and especially the nerf to damage from swarm really sucks. i feel like it was a bit overkill, but well see with other buffs. cant wait to play as aganos and hisako.
+Unoiled Hakan I think it's because he was hitting those too much. They're suppose to be set-ups for other forms of actual damage, not THE source of primary damage.
+owlflame He was talking about how her reaction to Maya's reworks were like @_@ because that's her character. Everyone wanted to see how she would react more than anything, and it was hilarious. Notice how they also put the camera on Sleep during Kan-Ra until he walked out like a whiny child.
+owlflame it's insulting to people who have actual problems when you spout garbage like this for no reason the camera was on her because she plays maya and the commentators were talking about maya nerfs. viewers might want to get her opinion on the changes to her character the camera also focused on another player when his character was receiving changes
+thetubeaccount I don't blame her. I'm obsessed with Maya as well. I was shivering due to the nerfs and anticipating the buffs for Maya just as she was lol.
Im trying to get good with Aganos, and I was facing a Shago player yesterday. He got full screen and spammed all game, and there was very little way to get any forward momentum. I know Aganos can flick away fireballs with LP, but with little meter and no instinct, what can i do to prevent that from happening again?
Did sleep actually leave the building? Everyones characters took a hit so i dont understand his point. On a side note TJ combo really got nerfed but you didnt see rebello flip out.
Kan-Ra not reworked? Better give him some killer stuff dood, real talk EDIT: One question, if i do shadow spike in the corner, do i get to combo off that with summon scarab? And does that cancel the automated scorpion tail? That giant tornado looks insane, can't wait to ultra into that. My girl Riptor looks fine too, controlling her on a pad was murder on my fingers.
The only thing that always annoy me about Riptor is that her heavy punch is fire. And I know that it's fire. But I always forget and decide to try to break medium because everyone and their mother always use medium attacks. But Riptor is just different because of the damn fire. There's never a match that I don't win against Riptor unless it's by a miracle.
It doesn't seem like they did anything to help Aganos with the standing Heavys break armor thing. Like, they made it easier to manage his chunks, but that doesn't matter much when you can just use a standing heavy and ignore them completely. And as someone who plays Aganos, this makes me sad :(
Heavy breaking armor is a definite head scratcher. I see the idea of the ability to stuff out a heavy with a light or med but armor is there for a reason.
Honestly being able to chunk up at good speed with his recycles, normal auto double speed, and quick walls up is soooo good. I was worried about that too but hopefully these buffs make it up
NightSlash 45 I'd say the faster auto doubles actually hurt him more than help him. They made baiting out counter breakers a lot easier, but now it's going to be harder.
+GameDragonify idk I feel like not having to rely on counter breakers too much is a good thing. Obviously he'll still be easy to break because his auto doubles are still one animation so CB will still have to be used but not as much now (or at least it seems that way)
Sad that Omen didn't get a proper reversal still and the damage nerfs feel bad. The buffs, however, are really cool, Shadow Rashakuken is now a legit pressure tool.
Am I the only one who sees this as out-of-sync? What's even more strange is that I swear the audio and video was in sync last night. EDIT: Scratch that, s'all good.
i dunno maya seemed to get nothing but nerfs in my opinion the only thing i dont mind is mantis cashing out damage, everything else hurt her too much i mean come on no chip on daggers u know i could go through the whole list it all seemed too much
Dude Man And yet you didn't see "Watch the live stream here!" It's kind of obvious. Especially since Max made a video before all this to promote the stream
I am excited for S3, but there are things I really don't like that they changed. Sadira: Nerfed jumping roundhouse..........AGAIN. You can't use her webs during enders. Maya: Dagger ender reworked. I can see a ton of people dropping her for this. I was looking for them to just nerf its damage.
***** Yeah you don't see too many Omens online. This will definitely change. Which is good. I enjoy character variety. I'm actually willing to give Aganos a shot with the changes. Hisako as well. Those two characters I normally never touch online.
+Ian Alatorre Everyone is hoping they add a vampire. Though after arbiter it is going to be tusk as he is already been confirmed. After tusk it's anyone guess. here is hoping they add a vampire.
Coming from a kanra main, i think the changes are fine. I can already see setups being almost worst than what he had XD watch out, kanra aint down and out yet
Wholeheartedly agreed. 5 years later and I'm still very much a Kan-Ra main. The nerfs were necessary, but it changed his gameplay for the better. His setups are still so much fun to this day
Oh jeez thanks for nerfing Hisako, she really needed it. You get rid of the mid catches on the low counter which means we have to read opponents *even harder than before* - which was already fucking disgustingly difficult - and you nerf the air ORZ so that it's no longer + consistently which makes for a random bull shit "I hope I'm + on block after I hit you". Oh but at least we got a worthless shadow move and can cancel into our still shit-tier teleport that doesn't do shit because we have to stand still to get our wrath back now anyway. Yeah great job on nerfing an already sub-par character. Meanwhile Jago and any other char with a dp will still fucking smack you in the face with a DP for punishing a move that's negative on block (wind kick - > dp = nice balancing). Disgusting balance department.
She was already bad against most characters, now she sucks. Only cool thing about her was her damage ender and dagger toss and now the damage ender is gone and her dagger toss all suck now
Yea, causals players won't use her at all. Certain moves work on hit and whiff but not block? That's confusing and unreliable. And no chip damage on a special move projectile is just dumb.
Because it's no longer 1994 where a game is released on a cart with zero way to change it. DLC and minor bug fixes in almost ANY game is a given nowadays. I think what KI is doing makes it a stronger fighter because they're trying to make every character balanced, meaning playing a particular character doesn't give any advantage and it's based totally on the skill of the player to win matches. There are definitely some games that are TRASH upon release and need fixing via DLC (wasn't a recent Batman game guilty of this?) but most games are complete upon released and have the vast majority of bugs caught and repaired. In KI's case I feel the developers are constantly trying to improve the product and that makes me feel like my money is going further than if I just dropped $60 for a game and got zero updates/fixes.
It turns out that Maya's new toy is total junk since you lose the charge if ANYTHING happens to you at all. Like they can be knocked off insanely easily and when they fall the daggers are thrown to the corners practically so the whole thing turns you into garbage.
0:20 - 7:00 TJ Combo.
7:57 - 13:31 Maya.
14:13 - 21:46 Kan-ra
22:00 - 27:53 Riptor
28:18 - 32:45 Omen.
33:11 - 38:50 Aganos.
39:00 - 43:25 Hisako.
43:30 - 48:31 Cinder.
49:00 - 52:30 Aria.
53:07 - 54:40 Shadow Jago.
Thank you
+G'eZz(Gaston) You da real MVP!
i love you
+MacEddieC that's nothing! :3
You sir, are a gentleman and a visionary.
The look of joy on Pink Diamond's face during the Maya buffs is awesome.
I was soooo happy. Maya is not an easy character to use anymore. she actually better Now. im loving her
17:30 - The salt from Sleep tho
+Arkl1te did he chuck his pass on the floor?
+Alex Yarde nah. that was a Kan Ra bead sprite
+Arkl1te He had a good point about Fulgore. Shago is pretty bad too.
I really love the enthusiasm from the players.
Same here.
17:55 sleep isn't happy at all
I wonder if these reworks will only make the balance gap only bigger. It does look sick! PC users would love to hear more news of the PC port though!
Max, what´s your favorite rework of the KI cast now?
+CeeeX nobody but pc beggars care about the port. don't expect news at this event.
+Zurg Goide Haha seems to me you seem triggered about this game coming to PC
Playerz714 why would I? this game is trashy. but pc beggars dont deserve shit.
There is a special announcement that they're doing today so it might be more info on PC.
NightSlash 45 oh sweet, can't wait!
Hey Swordsman...WHAT ARE THOSE!?!?
his face when he said we buffed Kan Ra 13:58
oh my god. lmfaooo thank you i needed that
OH. MY. GOD. Hisako changes. My child. I fucking love it.
I'm on the outside looking in. This vid makes me want to learn how to play fighting games.
+Al Filmore It's the first Fighting game I actually consider purchasing, once the release hits PC.
glad they finally buffed kan ras shadow sand spike and did something with his sand tornado, but man the overall damage nerf and especially the nerf to damage from swarm really sucks. i feel like it was a bit overkill, but well see with other buffs. cant wait to play as aganos and hisako.
+Unoiled Hakan
I think it's because he was hitting those too much. They're suppose to be set-ups for other forms of actual damage, not THE source of primary damage.
Hakan without oil.... no thanks
It's time to oil up buddy
Holy shit that new Shadow Dive Kick for Shago.
Hey Max I appreciate the segment of the video where the camera is locked on PinkDiamond like --> @_@
ahahahahahaha
owlflame to be fair, she is literally obsessed with maya, so it made sense to get her reaction shot
+owlflame He was talking about how her reaction to Maya's reworks were like @_@ because that's her character. Everyone wanted to see how she would react more than anything, and it was hilarious.
Notice how they also put the camera on Sleep during Kan-Ra until he walked out like a whiny child.
+owlflame it's insulting to people who have actual problems when you spout garbage like this for no reason
the camera was on her because she plays maya and the commentators were talking about maya nerfs. viewers might want to get her opinion on the changes to her character
the camera also focused on another player when his character was receiving changes
+thetubeaccount I don't blame her. I'm obsessed with Maya as well. I was shivering due to the nerfs and anticipating the buffs for Maya just as she was lol.
Yes! Been waiting for this :)
When is the PC version coming out?
Same day Season 3 launches
18:05 Geoff the Hero, I see you!
So from what I saw, TJ still doesn't seem to have a reliable normal anti-air. Hmmmm.....
Or different auto doubles.......
22:10 "Another One!" XD
WHEN WILL THEY SHOW THE RASH CHANGES?
You can watch all the highlights on Maximilian's twitch page. His stream officially hosted ALL of KI World Cup.
Whats with the guy throwing down his laynard during Kan-Ra stuff? who was he?
+Keanotix i think it was supposed to be symbolic of him dropping kan-ra
I realise this is a dumb question, but did he have to be a big drama queen about it?
+Keanotix No one should ever be that big of a drama queen about a video game, unless Kan-Ra was making him actual money to make a living.
Keanotix Definitely not. The funny thing is he did it right before all the buffs he got, which were godlike.
+Keanotix he was just being a salty crybaby
My highlight of the whole thing was 31:56. Sajam just going "Keits..." was the funniest thing, I was dying.
Wait. No more Shago diving bicycle kicks now? Say it ain't so.
Is there a part three to this? They say next is Rash, but nothing there....
Im trying to get good with Aganos, and I was facing a Shago player yesterday. He got full screen and spammed all game, and there was very little way to get any forward momentum. I know Aganos can flick away fireballs with LP, but with little meter and no instinct, what can i do to prevent that from happening again?
43:39 WHAT ARE THOOOOOSSSEEE!!!!
Dang the cheers for Cinder's fired up uppercut
Did they actually nail down Omen a bit. I main him and these are great changes, but I can't tell
Please tell me hisako still has her counters
+tyrelle000 yes. Just that her low counter doesn't catch mediums anymore.
+dbzsonic1069 she shuld never have had a catch all counter it was insane.
its was sane for me okay QQ XD
where is the rest of the vid for season 3 characters?
those fight sticks they are using look hot, do they sell that?
cant wait for pc version :)
I've never even played KI before and this was still fun to watch for some reason.
Where is the video with the Rash changes?
Did sleep actually leave the building? Everyones characters took a hit so i dont understand his point. On a side note TJ combo really got nerfed but you didnt see rebello flip out.
What about the Rabbit punches? Is it gone?
I don't play KI therefore I have nothing of value to add. Pink Diamond is really really really pretty.
Not even noon on a monday and that's the dumbest thing I'll read all week. (Provided Trumps keeps his yap shut)
I noticed, thus my snide comment
+biohazard724 lol trump has more intellingence in his ass than you in your brain.
thank u
+Diamond Freeland you're welcome
Kan-Ra not reworked?
Better give him some killer stuff dood, real talk
EDIT: One question, if i do shadow spike in the corner, do i get to combo off that with summon scarab? And does that cancel the automated scorpion tail?
That giant tornado looks insane, can't wait to ultra into that.
My girl Riptor looks fine too, controlling her on a pad was murder on my fingers.
IG put some heavy thought in this build.... nice
Yes part 2!
The audio is super out of sync
cool sound sync
Thank god Kahn rah was my kryptonite. Hated him and riptor so much
+tyrelle000 Riptor was more of my kyptonite because of the damn fire.
ikr XD couldnt figure out how to block it for the life of me
The only thing that always annoy me about Riptor is that her heavy punch is fire. And I know that it's fire. But I always forget and decide to try to break medium because everyone and their mother always use medium attacks. But Riptor is just different because of the damn fire. There's never a match that I don't win against Riptor unless it's by a miracle.
Will this game ever get a full retail release, not just partial... :/
what's the main ki forum
why on jump they dont look up max
It doesn't seem like they did anything to help Aganos with the standing Heavys break armor thing. Like, they made it easier to manage his chunks, but that doesn't matter much when you can just use a standing heavy and ignore them completely. And as someone who plays Aganos, this makes me sad :(
Heavy breaking armor is a definite head scratcher. I see the idea of the ability to stuff out a heavy with a light or med but armor is there for a reason.
Honestly being able to chunk up at good speed with his recycles, normal auto double speed, and quick walls up is soooo good. I was worried about that too but hopefully these buffs make it up
NightSlash 45 I'd say the faster auto doubles actually hurt him more than help him. They made baiting out counter breakers a lot easier, but now it's going to be harder.
+GameDragonify idk I feel like not having to rely on counter breakers too much is a good thing. Obviously he'll still be easy to break because his auto doubles are still one animation so CB will still have to be used but not as much now (or at least it seems that way)
so there's nothing for Orchids? 😩😒
I might play this again. maybe.
That black girl is so cute
That's actually a guy
hat guy has nice tits then. it ain't gay if they got nice jugs and a thin frame.
+smashmaniac2008 So you're calling Pink diamond a guy? lol
+Strictly Games yes that's a guy
Could've fooled me lol
i hope they bring back KI 1 character select theme
tears of hype for riptor dat stagger ughh dat stagger into combo ughh I love it
HOW CAN I CHANGE POISONS COLOR IN 3RD STRIKE OE SOMEONE PLZ REEPLY
+daxixx dulox PLZ
I TRIED BUT I DID NOT FIND ANYTHING
I ALREADY DID AND NOW IM WAITING
+boy_wunda I NOW BUT U CAN CHANGE HER COLOR
+daxixx dulo lol
Audio out of sync
Wheres part 3??
nice to see voldemort playing KI
PC version. Right fucking now.
Sad that Omen didn't get a proper reversal still and the damage nerfs feel bad.
The buffs, however, are really cool, Shadow Rashakuken is now a legit pressure tool.
This is becoming like the game SFXTK was meant to be. And I love it lol
Really, they didn't raise Omen's damage output, and instead nerfed it? And they reduced the throw damage? Still, the HK and DD adjustments look sick.
Dude in the black shirt near the aisle seriously wants attention.
Am I the only one who sees this as out-of-sync? What's even more strange is that I swear the audio and video was in sync last night.
EDIT: Scratch that, s'all good.
I'm just waiting for that Arbiter reveal...
the best fighting game gets even better
Anyone ever notice how Maya is like a GIANT woman? Compared with the size of other human characters.
i dunno maya seemed to get nothing but nerfs in my opinion
the only thing i dont mind is mantis cashing out damage, everything else hurt her too much i mean come on no chip on daggers u know i could go through the whole list it all seemed too much
im turned on by these omen buffs
shorty in the front lookz guud
is there a stream where i can see all of this?
+Justin Harmon You don't look at the description a lot do you?
+rosenrot234 Different account; Actually, I check descriptions a lot. Don't you think that I could have gotten confused?
Dude Man
And yet you didn't see "Watch the live stream here!" It's kind of obvious. Especially since Max made a video before all this to promote the stream
rosenrot234 Whatever man, I found it myself.
Dude Man
No need to be defensive with the "whatever".
So Shadow Jago is gonna be the only character with an ultimate then?
For the time being.
Nathan Lemuel
K cause I'd just love to see what they do for each characters in particular Aganos, T.J. Jago, Spinal and Riptor
Of course TJ needs linkers.
His last name is COMBO
17:52 epic
I am excited for S3, but there are things I really don't like that they changed.
Sadira: Nerfed jumping roundhouse..........AGAIN. You can't use her webs during enders.
Maya: Dagger ender reworked. I can see a ton of people dropping her for this. I was looking for them to just nerf its damage.
+Gabriel “ToastyBlazer15” Torre unfortunate, but I think he made out pretty well
***** Yeah you don't see too many Omens online. This will definitely change. Which is good. I enjoy character variety. I'm actually willing to give Aganos a shot with the changes. Hisako as well. Those two characters I normally never touch online.
Good gob Skolas.
time to learn omen looks like he's going to be a very hard counter to some season 1
nothing warms my heart more than seeing FGC players getting hyped over buffs
how much easier is it to play with an arcade controller?
I have an arcade stick and it's world's better! I'm able to get those breakers off faster and use Hisakos parry effortlessly
+Blader102 It's more of which you prefer, newer players prefer controllers while old school players like max prefer the arcade sticks.
Damn shago is even better nice guy
So tj combo is basically a spamming character
Lmao, I actually liked Sleep until he acted like a 6 year old at 17:55.
Nerf? Buff? Patch? ADAPT!
why didn't shago get a new move?
+misslepack he's too new
everything he does is new lol
Shadow Jago just got his own moveset not too long ago, he doesn't really need anything else new right now lol
I am so pissed my Xbox One broke. Season 3 is looking so dope. Can't wait to see more!
I have no idea what people are talking about here
Yay the did something good for my main Maya.
they*
max bro we need god character in killer instinct season 3
That role will probably be picked up by Gargos.
I hope they put amazing characters in Season 3
Well if you see the end of Kim Wu's trailer you'll see they're adding The Arbiter
Besides, I already know that was him in the teaser
+Ian Alatorre come on man
+Chris Grabenhorst what do you want
+Ian Alatorre Everyone is hoping they add a vampire. Though after arbiter it is going to be tusk as he is already been confirmed. After tusk it's anyone guess. here is hoping they add a vampire.
Was Riptor that bad?
EDIT: Lmao nvm got to the buffs
2nd EDIT: WHAT ARE THOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSE
Fucking nerfs man
Coming from a kanra main, i think the changes are fine. I can already see setups being almost worst than what he had XD watch out, kanra aint down and out yet
Wholeheartedly agreed. 5 years later and I'm still very much a Kan-Ra main. The nerfs were necessary, but it changed his gameplay for the better. His setups are still so much fun to this day
NOOOO! My Maya has been changed!
so....who else here will pick rash?
Arbiter > rash
Joanna Dark > Everybody lol........hopefully she is the 3rd guest character
Damn they basically rapped the combo!!!!! Can't let a black man in any fashion
Wow, they nerfed Kan Ra like a boss. About time too.
Oh jeez thanks for nerfing Hisako, she really needed it. You get rid of the mid catches on the low counter which means we have to read opponents *even harder than before* - which was already fucking disgustingly difficult - and you nerf the air ORZ so that it's no longer + consistently which makes for a random bull shit "I hope I'm + on block after I hit you".
Oh but at least we got a worthless shadow move and can cancel into our still shit-tier teleport that doesn't do shit because we have to stand still to get our wrath back now anyway. Yeah great job on nerfing an already sub-par character. Meanwhile Jago and any other char with a dp will still fucking smack you in the face with a DP for punishing a move that's negative on block (wind kick - > dp = nice balancing).
Disgusting balance department.
ANOTHER ONE
+De Angelo Miles what part did they do that.
I really don't like some maya changes
She was already bad against most characters, now she sucks. Only cool thing about her was her damage ender and dagger toss and now the damage ender is gone and her dagger toss all suck now
Yea, causals players won't use her at all.
Certain moves work on hit and whiff but not block? That's confusing and unreliable.
And no chip damage on a special move projectile is just dumb.
Dude wtf is up with the audio? Really wanted to watch it but it's annoying
They just keep fucking with shit. Why not just release a game when it's finished and leave it the fuck alone.
Because it's no longer 1994 where a game is released on a cart with zero way to change it. DLC and minor bug fixes in almost ANY game is a given nowadays. I think what KI is doing makes it a stronger fighter because they're trying to make every character balanced, meaning playing a particular character doesn't give any advantage and it's based totally on the skill of the player to win matches. There are definitely some games that are TRASH upon release and need fixing via DLC (wasn't a recent Batman game guilty of this?) but most games are complete upon released and have the vast majority of bugs caught and repaired. In KI's case I feel the developers are constantly trying to improve the product and that makes me feel like my money is going further than if I just dropped $60 for a game and got zero updates/fixes.
It turns out that Maya's new toy is total junk since you lose the charge if ANYTHING happens to you at all. Like they can be knocked off insanely easily and when they fall the daggers are thrown to the corners practically so the whole thing turns you into garbage.
They shitted on TJ's damage. Thanks for that bull shit.