How to Enjoy India as a Foreigner
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- Meet Jean-Pierre, a Frenchman who lived in India for 25 years. He shared with me how he managed to keep both Indian and French passports, his thoughts on the caste system in India, and why he's happy living in Mumbai. Enjoy!
Jean-Pierre on Instagram: / jeanpierremumbai
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 INTRO
00:18 Indian Passport
01:20 Being a foreigner in India
03:00 How has India changed in 25 years?
03:44 Renting in Mumbai
04:35 Best thing about life in India
05:07 Favorite food in India
06:16 Moving to India advice
08:07 Castes and culture shocks
13:37 Slums in India
14:45 How India changed Jean-Pierre
16:29 Why are there watches on both hands?
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Do you agree or disagree with my today’s guest?
I agree with him, thanks for this video👍
Agree with him on everything except the caste and Hindu-Muslim stuff! He has a very archaic and 'media' view on the issue.
The caste issue is complex and historical. Things are improving every generation. 2 of my friends are SC/ST who married UC girls. One with consent and the other without the consent of the family. One of my Brahmin friends married an OBC girl. There is an undercurrent and things will be dramatically different at least in the cities by 2050!
Hindu-Muslim issues are here to stay!
Not completely he is wrong about the caste system in India.
There are a lot of things you need to understand about the culture. It depends on the kind of people you meet. In big cities people don't trust the caste system.
Caste is a Foreign gift/curse to us. It is not 4000 years old. We had "Jati-Varna" system and it was fluid. People have used caste system to get and stay in power (corrupted brains) .
disagree
As a dalit myself I can say the caste issue comes either in romantic relationships or marriage nothing else
Yes,I have met many people who oppose the caste system but at the time of their child marriage, job, colour, beauty etc
I'm a brahmin, I agree with you. But for us getting admissions in college, marks issue in college and govt jobs etc. All this get erased as time goes. No problems.
@@geethascharlu7098 Now there is a GEN-EWS category where 10% reservation is given to general category who earn less than Rs.800000/year. So i don't think there is any problem atleast for the economically poor people from these communities.The rich always gets the advantage of good school/private personal tuition classeswhich is and advantage for them, which inturn is an added disadvantage for the poor. so u get some u loose some.
Here uncle/guest has given some misinformation about love marriages yes there is love j!h@d and there is a slab based reward given to the mu$l1m boy if he marries a hindu/ bramin/vaishya/kshatriya girl there is a documented evidence which is available in the public, so it's natural for every parent to make his/her child aware of the traps that are laid out in the society to target a particular community to acheive their world wide goal of converting every single individual into their rel!gion, as a converted guy from his original christian background to mu$lim it definitely pains uncle/guest that why people are objecting the marriage of a h1ndu girl with a mu$lim boy.
He is also spreading misinformation about caste system that it is 4000 yrs old practice and blah blah blah there is no such system prior to the arrival of british yeah we used to have Jati/varna system which is fluid and not rigid as mentioned by him in our purana/itihasas where children born out of same parent some of them became kshatriya, some became Brahmin, some Vaishya and some Shudra based on their natural abilities, and not by the caste system. if the system is rigid this would not have happened and the caste sytem has been instilled upon us by the britishers.Just a google search about this man Sir Herbert Hope Risley who first applied the caste structure to the Indian society when he was made census commissioner in 1881 tells a lot about how it all started.
Gotras form an important part of the hindu society, people with some gotras do not marry each other. I've seen the some SC population sharing the same gotra as the Brahmin so if we go by the gotras they belong to the same family but somewhere in the time they have lost connection may be due to various reasons, adopted different food habits and customs but did not gave up their gotra, this only tells that classifying people based on the caste is the most senseless thing which was imposed on us by the britishers in order to divide and rule, the same is being followed by different political parties to use them as vote banks.
Bro, it's all about money. Even lower castes are not ready to marry in poor upper caster families.
perhaps in the cities. In rural india caste based discrimination is common place. You read stories about people besting up grooms because they were riding horses, or children in schools refusing to eat midday meals because it was cooked by a Dalit women, or Dalit children being made to clean toilets in schools, or Dalit man being beaten because he entered the temple or upper caste people creating a wall to divide them and the Dalits. And majority of Indians live in the rural areas. All the incidents I have mentioned are reported in newspapers. Imagine all the cases that aren't even reported.
As an obc in india i never face any type of discrimination in acquiring every govt service or job
Meanwhile we get extra benifit from the government
I myself score 670 in medical exam and currently studying i aiims there is no discrimination between the caste system
Only merit matter
If any one from other caste never willing to grow thats their problems
Govt provides scholarship from class 6 up to 12 std . Only talent matter
" survival of the fittest" ❤
it's not about benefits from the government. it's all about how people treats you based on the caste and restrict what job you should do etc.
It's bcoz of constitution and mandal commission...😂....but the fact is castism is still exhist....in metro cities also
@@vijayprabhakar8565 in our state all caste are treated equally but
The caste matter in case of marriage only bcz family prefer same caste marriage but they also accept spouse of other caste through some ritual.
@@helloneet321 Can a Dalit do pooja inside the temple? If all the people accept that, then come and tell me that you people treat everyone equally.
@@vijayprabhakar8565 in assam yes!
As per Indian law, we cannot have two Passport or hold Two nationalities at a time. He must be having OCI overseas citizen of India, which looks like a Passport. Once anyone have OCI, They can stay inside India with full rights, except voting and buying land.
Yes, I got confused as well with that.
It's oci. Citizens get passports and cannot be blocked from voting. Also citizens cannot be asked to leave.
I think buying property is still possible
Not everyone in India is obsessed with caste system. Caste system is more prevalent in rural areas..
In America caste system is growing. Recently am employee from Google faced discrimination because she was dalit. When she complained nothing was done.
Please don't give wrong information. Come to Delhi you will see it with your own eyes. In many areas if your sur name belongs to schedule caste they won't even be given a house for rent !
@@premierradio7642 changed the surname lol
that's just an upright lie!
@@iamzayed..muslims also have caste system like Maulana ..etc are upper people..also there are no of sects in Islam as well ( shia Sunni.. ahmadia etc etc)
The only problem is, he didn't talk about how muslims react (from any class) when their daughters fall in love with a Hindu boy. He should have said both parties react the same way instead he chose to criticise hindus. Clearly he is a Muslim and a Muslim sympathiser.
Muslims can be just as patriarchal.. Sadly
He stressed the Hindu girl in love with a Muslim guy but failed to point out the reverse. Nevertheless, he's an iconoclast eating pork and drinking whiskey when he's a convert to Islam.
He has an OCI card, not an Indian passport. The OCI is lifetime visa. He cannot, for instance, get a visa in it to go to a country which requires visa for entry from both French and Indian citizens. Such a visa has to be on the French passport.
Agree! Because Indian citizens can't have two citizenship at once so technically he can never have two countries' valid passport at once
how did he acquire OCI without ever having indian citizenship
@@TsebT a person who marries an Indian citizen can get an OCI card. I’ll need to recheck to confirm but you don’t even need to marry an Indian citizen, but to someone who has an OCI card and still get an OCI card, and so will their children.
I do know that a person retains their OCI card, if the person they’re married to revokes their Indian citizenship after marriage. An American colleague of mine married a dude from Kerala, and got her OCI, and then a few years later, the husband also took up American citizenship, and got an OCI himself.
THE FRO has identified rightly to submit his OCI if he divorces his wife - This man looks sketchy - either missionary or an state or non state agent - chri name diff religion - no clear purpose of marriage at his age.- If i was from immigration i would do a thorough background check
Don't think he is eligible for either OCI.
OCI is Overseas Citizenship of India. It is an immigration status authorising a foreign citizen of Indian origin to live and work in India for an indefinite period
In Malayalam there is a saying, “Panathinu Mele Parunthum Parakkilla” roughly translates to: even the eagle doesn’t fly above money, meaning money controls everything. Not caste, religion, race, etc.
India does not allow dual citizenship... As per Indian law, it is illegal to hold any other valid passport along with valid Indian passport !!!
OCI simply...
@@jean-pierreforgeneuf1973 OCI is given to people who
1. have either or both of the parents of Indian origin
OR
2. has spouse either holding Indian passport or Indian OCI AND their marriage has subsisted for at least 2 years
But in no case a person can hold Indian passport as well as a foreign passport...
OCI is NOT a PASSPORT. OCI is a type of visa for lifetime and not a passport!!! The video says in the beginnibg that the person holds Indian passport as well as French passport which is not legal in India...0:05
@@whatisinthenameshakespeare0015he mistakes OCI card for Indian Passport. His wife is Indian
@@whatisinthenameshakespeare0015 doesnt matter Indian passport has to be surrendered
@@MCBC_5 exactly, that is what I am saying... no dual citizenship... and also OCI is not same as passport... although OCI allows you to work and live indefinitely in India, it does not give you voting right, you cannot buy agricultural land and has few other restrictions... I have been holder of OCI for more than a decade myself...
Even after living for 20 years in India, he didn't understand any thing. He thinks people's minds are blocked but it's his mind which is blocked failing to understand the diversity and vibrant culture
Exactly.
really, He gave his honest opinion! yes there is still caste systen india, marrigeas are predominatly within the caste. don't be so defensive ..
Caste system is around the world in every society….it’s the economic status of the individual…..in the West : upper, middle upper, lower upper….upper middle, lower middle, low, upper lower caste, middle lower, and the homeless……agree he’s closed-minded ….but it’s because he’s Islamic…….he didn’t discuss the same differences in his cultural background….he’s not a representative of France……don’t be fooled by his French accent…….
Lol he's right
@@CW-rx2jsand you?🫵
Caste word itself is a term from portuguese language and the word 'dalit'- was coined by so-called reformers themselves which ultimately lead to the separation of the 'untouchables' from the mainstream.... in ancient Indian society there was 'varna' system which was based on the occupation of people that is categorization of people based on occupation, it wasn't hereditary as it is today, and the most important point for all foreigners here is that the document called the constitution of India which is claimed to provide equality among all Indians is in itself a discriminatory document which divides people in four classes : general, obc, sc, st on the basis of reservation so don't put blame on 'upper caste people' and make them villains in the story because there is no 'upper class' or 'lower class' based on caste,
yes, upper class and lower class exists but on the basis of economic conditions that is how much money you have in present time, not on caste system,
if you have got wealthy enough then you can dictate rules and everything and act the way you are pleased and if you have no money then be ready to be forever suppressed and in a way oppressed all the time!! that's the rule and law here.
Politicians and so-called intellectuals just need to hide their own crimes, inability and shortcomings and put the blame on someone's head so caste system is their scapegoat so just cut the crap of debate of caste, in today's world anywhere and everywhere, including India, money is god, money is religion, money is education, food, family, mother-father everything in present day, it's a global thing,
for example, if a woman is wealthy enough and belongs from a so-called regressive state of the country, no matter what but she can buy the system and act her way out!! Caste thing and 'upper and lower class based on caste' is an idea or campaign of large number of political parties to distract people from real issues and shamelessly ask for their votes on the basis of caste! Caste thing was always a political card and in present era also remains so! Caste - Just a political card to win elections and come into power, nothing else! They just need some villain to throw all the blames on it and escape from their duty of accountability! Caste is just a jhunjhuna by politicians to distract people from real issues!
People earn/gain respect or lose it on the basis of their bank balance, power, influence, and everything, all comes from money! that's the ultimate truth!! the whole fabric of society depends on money!! so don't go on repetitive mode asking the same caste system question again and again to gain views.
Our honorable PM was achai wala and our President is from a lower so called tribe. Enough said. Caste is the Western imposition that this Government will stamp out of the British implementaion of the ideoligy. It just takes time. Congress loved this to play divide and rule.
No need to be over sensitive about it
It exists and our society is stagnant
Nothing is moving especially for the poor
There is reason
It is our own inability to query our mindset rigorously enough
There is a problem for sure regarding this..but to make a blanket statement that it has been there for 4000 years is ridiculous.. I’m not offended here but it’s also not very cool to talk something so surely of something you are not actually sure of🙏🏻
@@sunilthakore5715 yes it's finally happening and it's good to see
@@KN-gq2wn I think you need to be sensitive about this as the whole world still sees us as part of this formula. If cast exists, if you are from a high caste you are suppoosidly not to drink water from a low caste or even a muslim. When you go out, do you ask the street seller who is giving you Pani Puri what caste he is from? Enough said. This has been a policatcal divide and rule policy implemented by the British and contined by the foreign educated leaders of the Congress. You can see this now, when they play caste and religion as the basis of their campaigs..
I'm an Indian from Maharashtra & worked with many French, British,Americans & some 15 - 20 nationality people ...I observed European, American culture is very much different than India or probably Asia....In Asia, Family, Children's education, festival, food etc are very important part of life which is not for westerners
Looks like you lied - most Europeans take family very seriously
they are materialistic bcoz of their capitalistic society.
and we are family oriented coz being a relatively young country family was and is the only wealth we have, most of us.
@@beezlebub9 then you haven't lived in south asia fully yet to grasp the context of what he/she meant.
I grew up in India and lived in the US for many years. What you say is a total misconception since you have not had a chance to know the culture. Here parents pay as much attention to kids as in India and festivals are important too.
@@prijak we understand good families are present there too. you are focusing on a miniscule portion ... you'll find the mind boggling remaining side just with a little research.
The Indian system of Varna and Jaati were never hierarchical or discriminatory. Varna is purely a model of societal functional role, while jaati is professional communities, who help each other professionally, monetarily and anything else, especially in times of need. Caste is a word of Portuguese/Spanish origin, which has hierarchical and feudal class system inherrent in it. It was imported and imposed during colonial times, specifically by Lord Risley, fused into the Indian society forcibly and made rigid for political and administrative purposes. Missionaries use it as a stick or stigma stuck on India, as though it is an Indian system, for purposes of conversion. Political parties in India, use it to divide and rule, just as the colonists had done before. Caste has nothing to do with the original Sanatana Dharma or Hinduism.
The VarNa vyavastha is not a division of the society into professions, but merely a model for understanding the roles/duties/responsibilities and preferences (karma and guNa) in every society. It is not based on birth. You can find references to VarNa in the Shastras.
Jaati is birth based, we will not find references in the Shruti (Vedas), but you may find references elsewhere. However, it is not the same as caste which is of Spanish and Portuguese origin. Caste is a corruption of the concept of jaati. Jaati is never hierarchical as the western scholars would like us to believe and never discriminatory. It is a set up of communities of people belonging to similar professions to help each other out and to grow the professions for the good of the society. It is a non-competitive, cooperative arrangement. Conversions in India did not work because of strong bond with the jaati.
Hinduism survived to a large extent due to the strong bonds within each jaati and community helping each other with loans and physical help when the other person in the same community had problems. People who converted missed that and it discouraged others from converting, although others are trying to copy the strong community helping each other concept.
Whatever explanation you may give today it's followed by majority of hindus and the politicians too enjoy it.
Today, we are living in a country where a police force has to be deployed for scheduled caste bahrat to cross the upper caste street
@@premierradio7642 It is alive today in all its discrimination and hierarchy only because the corrupt Congress party dynastic mafia family rule and its allies use the system for dividing the people to wield political power. Don't forget that Islam has 72+ divisions, usually at war with the other divisions calling them Kaafirs, so are Christian denominations, and the fundamentalists of all of them are attacking the Hindus.
What about the 72 firkas in Islam? They call each other kafirs.
Thank you so much brother for speaking up the truth
@@premierradio7642 no Hindu follows it, only politicians and so-called intellectuals are keeping it alive
And what u have just said? Cross upper class street by lower caste? Force deployed? Tell me! You aren't Indian? Right? You have just come here to spread your propaganda! I caught you!
Now let me tell you something, because you are doing so much upper caste lower caste shit, I share my rental home with a so-called lower class person, we share food, clothes, medicines, water everything and we are very close friends. Our families also have very cordial relationship and we stand by each-other in times of need. For us, things like caste, creed, race doesn't matter because what matters the most is people, their nature, their values and ethics, morality and humanity. And this is the case with all the families here in India, but people like you won't understand and will always spread fake news because that's the only way you can continue with your propaganda!
.2023 The most important thing that should be on everyone's mind today should be to invest in different sources of income that are not dependent on the government. Especially with the current economic crisis around the world. This is still a great time to invest in various gold, silver, and digital currency stocks..
trading should on every wise individuals bucket list. You will be ecstatic of the decision you made today.
This is good I guess I'm not alone in this world
Crypto trading has really changed my financial status positively. I got my first house the year I started investing and today networth is over £732k
all you mention are all good but I’ll advise you venture into fx first because it will help you grow your portfolio very fast and it require not so much to start
sorry i was busy with the kids
13:44 He called Love Jihad as "Love Hijack" lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
no no he purposely used the term love hijack, because he was taking side of muslims boys in such cases, he dont want to mention love jihad
What are even saying cow worshipper?
he is batting for muzblim being from the same team
@@daviddiveroli9331 okay pork workshipper
David why so much hatred. So what if we worship cows. We don’t hump toddlers
Still it's very hard for westerner to completly understand Indian thought... They take it as they see on surface
Can you elaborate?
Well he said that those belong to Dalit or untouchable cannot progress and are blocked.. but he doesn't acknowledged about those people becoming ministers, officers, business holders and providing their share of responsibility into the progress of this nation they have freedom to move... I think he is comparing progress with caste...
even after living in India for 25 years this french man dont know how Indian people think.....his opinion is completely wrong. and his thoughts on caste system , fact-more than 80% of today's generation dont believe in caste system.
@@MaxChernov
@vedpan3360 I didn't watch the full video. Did the the "knowledgeable" French talked how EVERY other government jobs are reserved for so called lower caste people?
Its not that they take it as they see on the surface. They take it as they have been taught by their western media and communist /christian/islamic propaganda.
Love this French guy- his style is so simple and he is lovable, so positive.
LOL. You found him "positive" ? amazing.
First off, what this French guy is doing is ILLEGAL. Bharat doesn't allow dual citizenship. He should have given back the INDIAN passport the moment he continued to have his French Passport. But say tata & bye bye to Indian passport, he was stupid enough to post this video 🤣🤣The sad part is that the WEST even after staying for 25 years still couldn't understand even an IOTA about Bharat.
@RampageOG exactly no one is allowed dual nationality in india . He is a muslim who wants hindus girls to marry muslims and lose religion. Not an indian passport holders indians fall for whites and are naieve.
India doesn’t have dual citizenship…..
He gives the standard leftists garbage shitting on locals and a white supremacists likes it as it makes him feel good
This was so nice, i wish all the very best to this French Indian gentleman. Thank you for filming him, he was happy as well as I was watching this interview.
Thank you!
Caste was never such a big issue only because of the British It became an issue because they used it to divide and rule. Unfortunately, the successors of the British empire never actually abolished cast, which they should have even now. The same party called the Congress party, are still doing the same politics of cast. They are making new senses of caste in state which they are in power. That is why we need to get rid of Congress party entirely.
The 🐌 progress of this country after its independence
The Congress party is definitely the reason, they have no idea and plan to boost Indian economy
They failed badly to use the huge Indian population for any economical benefits other than there votes.
probably you have never been to rural areas of India where caste is visible in everyday life.
@nikhilkay1 not saying it's completely wiped out just saying it's not because of the religion that there's a divide rather the British used this to create hierarchy which still exists and will exist for a long time to come
This was such a French conversation! Other foreigners stick to everyday living details and initial culture-shock. But, a Frenchman must discuss social issues. To be fair to him, he is probably the longest resident foreigner you have interviewed. As someone who studied at the AFdB in the 2000s, I might have run into him. His name sounds familiar. Good to hear the French accent again. 😊
haha I was thinking the same thing. You can always count on the French to get stuck into it. But for them, you agree, you dont agree. No big deal. They don't seem to get as triggered about it as others do.
I m challenging anyone
Tell me the country name
where there is no discrimination among ppl based on caste, Religion ,Race, Sex,Rich poor status
The most discriminative people live in europe still they preach others
Well I was born in this city and the chaos is an organized chaos which you need to learn, you will always have someone to help you regardless of your caste or skin color and this is the spirit of this City of dreams!
0:27
It’s not an Indian passport just a permanent residency. I have an OCI too and many mistake it for citizenship when it’s more of a glorified residence permit; the Indian government is very strict in saying no dual citizenship.
Overseas citizen of India, right?
@@MaxChernov
Correct, although the term "citizen" is sort of a misnomer, since it's more like PR than actual citizenship. It's essentially a lifetime visa which will always give you the right to live in India.
If it was actual citizenship you would get the same passport that all Indians do, but you don't.
So if there is a war or pandemic etc. in their country of residence can an OCI move back/enter as freely into India as an Indian citizen? If yes then to me it sounds as good as citizenship with only minor compromises
@@samararora5481
This was actually one of the major issues. For the most part OCIs are on parity with normal citizens but in times of crisis like pandemic, war etc. the Indian government puts up more restrictions.
During the pandemic there were a few months where OCI holders outside india couldn’t go back, but if you were already in India you could stay; there were also exceptions if you had a close family member in India and such.
My main issue with the OCI program is that they can add restrictions at any time, so there is a lack of permanence.
@@MaxChernov It's not a passport. You have no right to vote and no right to public office and it is a privilege that can even be cancelled in extreme circumstances.
Max should next interview Sonia Gandhi, an Italian with 40 years of Indian citizenship 😉
@@MaxChernovshe is the head of most corrupt party world has ever seen. Even ruled India for a decade by putting her puppet as PM
@@MaxChernov bro he baited you, she is head of the congress party 😁
Why ? She too will only tell him about 'caste". "cow" "sati" "toilet" "slum" and "corruption" . Just like her pappu son.
Please nautanki Sonia can’t even speak Hindi, living in india for 50 years. She needs to go and retire in her village with fascists.
as a fellow indian, i agree with him, caste system should be obliterated completely
Agree. And will the racism and class system in France be eliminated.
So you are against "50% Reservation" for dalits in schools and Jobs ?
@@Likha489 what kind of comment is this? Are you supporting caste system?
@@odomangulati7079 kaise
@@biswaranjandas728 How can "dalits" and "50 % reservation" exist without "caste" forced onto us by the constitution ?
The constitution ensures Hindus are forced to have caste so that "dalits" can continue to get 50% reservation in education and jobs.
JP reminds me , my best friends father . They French Canadians. Lovely gentleman, full of life ❤
No , he is muslim , hates bharmins and Catholics , see 9:30 , his cult has so many discusting things , but he is talking bad on others .
He's definitely a missionary ..caste system exist but it's not a medium for discrimination whereas it is looked as mode for history ex- rajputs - brhamans -gjjrs-jaats-valmikis etc
yess...and how is telling about muslim boyfriend and always giving an example of hindu girl. not telling having a Muslim gf can take ur life
@@aayp6617he is practicing muslim and sure he has muslim wife
@@abhijeetraushan3484lol are you mad or what?
@@aayp6617 idiot watch this video again... somewhere you wild find ..he is muslim.
@@abhijeetraushan3484 you are right. He is John Pierre..and french but now practicing muslim.. now we all know how he has become Muslim.. answer is his in-laws have mind 'not blocked' ... 😅😅😅😅😅
Even after 25 years staying in India, his French accent is so sharp.
Such a wonderful guest, lovely episode😊
The new super caste in India is rich caste. If you are from this caste then you are loved/accepted by all. Although the caste system does exist in India it is not so vicious as described by this gentleman (although the viciousness depends upon the state or rural background of the practitioner). In rural India it is still prevalent and will take some time to go out. In middle class India it is there and comes out during the time of marriage but again if the other person is rich usually it does not matter unless in rural areas/villages (where conservatism still prevails). The thing about inter religious marriage that he was talking about is actually called the "love Jihad", which is a term coined by the sociologists to understand the concept of conning the partner for the sake of conversion into Islam by the Muslim girl or boy to earn a place in the heaven. This was more prevalent in the last few decades when the radicalism due to ISIS, etc influenced the social fabric of India. If you want to understand this then there is a movie called the Kerala Story (which is available on the net) which has bought this aspect of love Jihad in the Indian sub continent to the fore as a case study.
Good wishes from Multani Indians, #multaniindians, our elders migrated from Multan in 1947, They use to speak Multani language but now this language is on the death bed in India. India is a multilingual, multicultural and diverse country with large population.
He does not have Indian Passport.
India does not allow a person to have dual citizenship.
What he has, is an OCI card (Overseas Citizen of India). Despite the name, it is not a citizenship of India in any way. It is just a life long visa + work permit.
This was initiated way back by Vajpayee government as initial steps towards dual citizenship. Manmohan Sigh govt did little in this regard. Modi government has been slowly but actively pushing back on the idea.
Anyway, what a lovely person. It was great listening to his perspectives.
Thank you❤
I’m from a small town in India and I visited Mumbai many years before only for two days. Believe me I hated it I found it too overwhelming I’ve never been there again 😂😂
Yes, it is hugely polluted, terribly crowded
Living there is like following a celebrity who don't care for your life.
But you like that celebrity because everyone is doing it too.
i think what he means is the OCI card. It is not a citizenship but more of a PR for life
Things have changed a lot.even untouchability has reduced
Really ? how often have to enquired about a persons "caste" in your entire life ?
How often has others enquired about your "caste" before offering any service to you or making a sale to you or offering a job to you ?
@@odomangulati7079 Talking of myself, never have i enquired about anyone else's caste or religion before getting any service.
@odomangulati7079 Never my friend. Never !! Nobody asks the vendors, shopkeeper, friends, co workers, doctors, house helps what their caste creed status or religion is. Things have changed
@@uss9542 That was sarcasm.
@@odomangulati7079, exactly. #Never.
Except at the time of marriage 😂
I eat at place which is clean, proper organised & provide value for money, not who is making or owner. (I am pure vegetarian).
Lovely video.
Very interesting and knowledgeable video
Excellent video ❤❤❤❤
What an intersting guy.. He needs to write a Book about his experiences in India.
i'm sure people would be interested..
Thinking of this. My memories in progress... merci
im subscribed!
Hey Max, thank you for making these videos! Loved them. I hope you are having a wonderful time here.
Glad you like them!
@@MaxChernov I hope you have interviewed foreigners living in southern India as well. I would love to see that too.
@@MaxChernov I completely agree with Jean-Pierre with transportation here in India. In western countries, their city expands but here in India the city contracts.
@@saadbinrehman8186 transportation is very good I travelled there many times but then the crowd was horrible.
The thing is that.. I lost myself everytime whenever I got stuck in a crowded areas
Beautifully described.
Caste system is complicated, and politically volatile, foreigners are advised to stay away from such sensitive issue, plus on that caste untouchability no longer exists in India(it is crime under constitution as well), caste preference are only used in weddings, for rest of cases no one cares about each other caste.
Bro he is muslim..do you really think muslim will leave any opportunity to criticize hindu
Caste system will never go away so long as we perpetuate it by continuing caste and religion based reservation, every time we are filling that colum in application forms that ask for our caste, we are perpetuating it.
Wow amazing how you pull out these questions and make the interview so engaging. I’m about to make my video about one year living in india 🇮🇳 so this is my inspiration to go by.
Well done you adjusted and happy. Nobody can make you happy but yourself. I am Indian born in South Africa.Our forefathers came here as sIaves in 1860.I love India. Been there 4x.Wish to go again and again. Feel at home in India. Enjoy your stay. Love from South Africa. ❤❤❤
Me being from general caste its a pain for us,We cannot grow😅😅
Cast system is fading away in India, in big cities mostly people don't care. I had a friend/room mate he was SC and i didn't even knew for around a year even after i came to know it didn't matter to us.
He was even well off than most of us.
Not in the countryside sadly and also not in the mind of many people...
Would you be OK with your sister marrying him?
@@EagleOverTheSeawould you? Not just he ask anyone from any religion would they? Everyone likes to marry within their community. How is that against any lower cast. They are progressing in their life. People can choose what they want to do with their personal life. Just bcoz someone doesn't want to marry their girl in lower marriage doesn't mean they are doing attrocities towards lower caste🤣🤦 grow up n get some sense. Hindus are way more open in these cases. You guys always target hindus in these cases. Ask any other religious lower caste sect if they will be even ready/ ok to marry their daughter with high caste hindu Brahmin? Don't be a hypocrite when it comes to one religion. People literally kill the boy if girl is from muslim family. Atleast hindus doesn't do that. Even after that girl literally ruined their families name by having relation with a muslim guy like this guy said in the video n sleeping around them.🤦 Ask some muslim or any other religion person what will they do if their daughter is in relationship with hindu guy or sleeps with him before marriage. Most likely the guy will be beaten to death or murdered 🤦
@@shasha0076 I think the question is will you be ok if your sister wants to marry the guy?
@@GeethaSindhuriBarabari ??
I am from India too worst part is when 10% rent goes up - what if a person can only afford a fixed amount? Unless you find someone very generous but all over world this happening, what can a man do?
Ultra pro honest and humble man❤
Wow such a wonderful man. Thoroughly enjoyed the accent as well.
He is muslims , he is literally abusing Hindus are bad , 9:30 he said bharmans and Catholics are bad , in 12:00 he said gird drop the muslim boyfriend , muslims mindset is what he is showing.
@@AnjaliD-nb7cr i wish you had a recieved a better education to have a broader understanding. Save yourself from drowning communal poison and hate. Get out of it. Good luck. ❤️
@@subysudhakaran people like you who have less brain or no brain prize these type of people , if he is a foreigner you will support them blindly . In your view foreigner are most intellectuals , idiot .
@@AnjaliD-nb7cr he was not abusing, but that was his observation and to be fair this is common in the whole world. 😂
Marrying outside of your religion.
@@nikhilPUD01 If he said that then okay , but he didn't, he only targeted Hindus and Christians , not muslims , this is how a muslim mindset works.
When I saw him first,I thought he was an Italian but he is actually an Algerian French...That's why he is Muslim....Anyway,he's conceptions about India are very good by the way and he already know how to manage conditions and priorities within two different socities..Absolutely brilliant!
I am french not algerian...😅
He is muslim , he is talkings Hindus are bad , they do this and that .
Algerian but he didn't mention it anywhere in this video?
@@jean-pierreforgeneuf1973 your name is different for a muslim
@@jean-pierreforgeneuf1973 your talk is so good I really enjoyed your interview. 👍
❣❣❣ Wonderful gentleman ..Hope you enjoy the rest of the stay in India.
Great guy! Humble and interesting
such a wholesome story :D
His mannerisms remind me of many French men I worked in my professional life. All French have the same movement of their hands and the way of speaking!!!
LOTS OF LOVE FROM INDIAN STUDENT IN PARIS
Brilliant!
What a fascinating person.
It was amusing to see the fancy footwork, the evasion of a difficult subject, by people who have commented on the matter of caste. Jean-Pierre was brutally frank and entirely truthful.
It's sad that he saw things which he wanted to. Caste over the period has become fluid, in next 10 years it might remain as a parameter or word on Paper. But the religion, It will not. When we talk about caste, why didn't he see the caste in other faiths. Are they not discriminatory? In case you are not aware, the very gentlemen's religion has 3-4 classes(Ashraf, Ajlaf, Pasmanda etc). And there is Shia and Sunnis. There is also fight between different sects. But no, it is the only "Hindu" caste that is discriminatory. Our PM is from OBC, our President is from Tribal community, did he not see that?
If he will start 'seeing' those things, how will he be able to spread his fake news and propaganda then?
The caste system is 4000 years old but they can move there is no top low caste in ancient time caste movement stopped around 400 years back
British introduced "caste" in India around 200 years back.
You can google "Limpieza de Sangre and the origins of the Caste system" .
Caste rigidity was introduced around 2000 years ago. Prior to that there was a lot more intermixing. Refer to latest genetic studies
@@nirvanabliss73 How can genetic studies show caste you fool.
11 months rent agreement is usually done in India, because for one year and more time, the rent agreement requires to be registered agreement (in government records), which folks want to avoid.
In other words, a 'leave-and-license' agreement. It is invalid over 11 months, and for such longer durations, becomes, effectively, a rent agreement.
No in hyd and Andhra we don't have such agreement for 11 months. Only required 2 months advance
@@anishu9428 In Delhi, usually it is one month security deposit and one month advance rent, plus half month broker takes (if flat found by broker). Normally, rent agreement not done in Delhi. But if it is done, then it is normally for 11 months. Why? Because as per Indiian law, if rent agreement is for 12 months or more, then the rent agreement has to be registered, which means that both parties will have to hire advocate, go to registrar office near revenue department, buy stqmp paper, pay registration charges etc, and such trouble is best avoided by landlords and tenants. So, 11 month rent agreements require no registration and is preferred by landlord/tenants in India. Suppose tomorrow government changes law and makes law that rent agreements over 2 years are required to be registered, then folks in India will start having 23 month rent agreements!
He says that people from other states treat their women badly, but doesn't mention that it's mostly Muslims who do that.
He is a Muslim and a French so I would give him benefit of doubt that he don't know much about the history and philosophy of caste/class system in india and he also haven't spend one hour to think and research on this topic in 25 years. I would like to point out things that I believe he was wrong about and I would like to get opinions of other who will read this msg.
1. Historically he is wrong about "you can't move from one class to other" but yes in this modern society there are a lot of uneducated Hindus that are backward thinker are still stuck to their colonial ideology of caste but HINDUTVA is trying to change it.
2. He is also wrong about that there are some state that don't respect women , Its not specifically about respecting women there are state/religion/community which have quite low literacy rate hence all kind of backward thinking is more common there.
3. His attacks on brahmins and catholic shows once a leftist always a leftist and on top of that he is Muslim so that is quite expected. I wonder what he think about caste system in Indian Muslim communities. Historically Brahmans have lost a lot to preserve the HINDU religion that you see in today's INDIA and yes there are Brahman families that are quite orthodox thinker but they are not the problem causer, every community have and needed those kind of people. They are quite peaceful and firm believer of their faith they don't cause any problem in the society.
4. I don't know what Bollywood movie he was watching last night before giving this interview. If a adult boy and girl get legally married their marriage is protected by the constitution and police can't do anything about it, let me tell you Intercaste or inter religion marriage are more common in HINDU community in INDIA then Muslim community. Muslim community is most introvert community when it comes to marriage except if its a boy getting married to Hindu or other religion's girl then the rules completely changes. I also don't think if a community is more introvert towards marriage its not a problem, many communities in ASIA (Japanese, Koreans, chinese etc) even in EUROPE(French,GERMAN etc) thinks the same way.
other then that i agree on everything what he said.
Explains a lot about him 😆..
As it should be
His attitude towards life is great so full of energy and happiness.
I forgot the name of the person and the village. He has been living in Punjab for 40 years and became a Sikh. He is also from France.
Lovely man!
Wonderful
Biriyani is not a Muslim food.. It's an Indian food.
No but half of the Indians also thought it is main dish of Muslims....
Excellent. Very interesting.
Nice interview. He is at liberty to say what he thinks.
No matter what foreigners can't understand india completely
No Shit. You mean India is NOT 'caste". "cow" "sati" "toilent" "slum" and "corruption" ? What a surprise.
@odomangulati7079 why are you commenting everywhere? 😂
Especially the French, they are very closed minded and averse to change!
Listen to his accent, barely understandable after 25 years of living in India and French people who live in France speak English exactly like this.
Also his views of caste system is outdated, people don't go around asking for caste in job interviews or any other area of life.
I don't know where he gets all this from, living in the richest parts of Mumbai, his bias is definitely showing!
He teaches French. If he let go of his accent, he would not be able to teach the language. You are just annoyed with the Caste system discussion. Nobody has to inquire about caste at least within their own states because we carry a caste label in the form of a surname. It is institutionalised in that way.
@@EagleOverTheSea Only an Idiot would think anybody would forget his mother tongue which is spoke for 70+ years, if he lets go of his accent.
He has no business discussing "caste" since it is quite irrelevant to his interview.
Everybody in the world has a surname, only a bigot would link it to caste.
THIS is what normalizing Hinduphobia looks like.
He is talking about Overseas citizenship of India card maybe. That's not passport or makes one citizen. However it gives near- to -all rights of citizens to it's holder. Lifetime unlimited visa, starting a business, etc. However, you cannot vote, hold public offices or buy agricultural land. Indian laws don't allow for dual citizenship. I am also wandering how he got the OCI card as because I thought only people with Indian ancestry and foreign citizenship can get it. Maybe some other rules exist.
I start my life in India with a PR, then a PIO and OCI in 2014... followed all the laws...
@@jean-pierreforgeneuf1973 Ahh, okayy, thanks.😃 I thought only Indian ancestry people can get PIO or OCI. love your way of life and deeply respect your experiences. You are such a gentleman.🤍
I really don't understand why people question this french sir because he said all the things correct about India according to Indian mentality....
The best thing he said is that to except the things whether ur in India or French...✌️✌️✌️
He told everything with full honesty,nothing i can disagree with
Every Racist on this planet says thing with full honesty and every Racists agree with them.
That is what makes them Racists. Their twisted world view and their expression of this prejudice.
@@odomangulati7079 what is racist?
@@nirvanabliss73 His view of India from a prism of "caste", "poverty", "slum", "corruption", and "religion" is what Racism looks like.
But this racism has been so normalized that sepoys like you will not recognize it even when it slaps you in the face.
@@odomangulati7079 Totally agree bro 👍
But he never told about Muslim side when a Muslim girl fall in love with a Hindu boy .
Very beautiful life lessons in conversation
I exactly knew where his mind is working as soon as he said he practice islam
His pronunciation is still like that of a typical Frenchman. I'd love to meet this man one day in Mumbai.
The most welcome...❤
@@jean-pierreforgeneuf1973Hello Jean... My best wishes for your good health... .. enjoy suces secretly and have good happy life...don't worry about Jannah . And 72..all those are fake .. only reality is good healthy life here on this earth... All the best Uncle Ji .. Love You ❤❤❤❤
Once a communist is always a communist,he was sounding like any other leftist sounds in india.
He doesn't mention that there is also a reservation system in india and it's going higher and higher that some States has crossed 50% reservation mark.
He doesn't mention india is socialist country which uses large chunk of the annual fund to provide subsidy to poor.
He doesn't mention that only 1.6 % of total. population pay tax in india.
He doesn't mention there several incidents where hindu women killed, chopped and dead body found in suitcase.
They willingly choose to ignore facts and truths for their own propaganda to spread!
Very interesting person. ❤️
You earned a sub
Excellent interview Max ❤
As a fellow Indian, I'm 100% agree with him that this caste system must be obliterated.
We want more interviews like this 🔥
13:44 i think he means "Love Jihad" well, and it goes both ways. Sometimes there is real love and society crushes it. Sometimes it's not real love but a trap to convert religions and scam.
Nope. "Love Jihad" only goes ONE WAY. Muslim men/women Trap Non Muslim women/men and ask them to convert if their "love is true". For Hindus they first pretend to be Hindus, take advantage of the girl, film her or maker her pregnant and THEN ask her to convert to islam. THAT is "love jihad".
He said he is leftist
@@abi-wg4jtAh he is leftist so he is asking his God to forgive for eating sausage 😂😂😂
@@abi-wg4jt Yeah, all muslims who want to hide their Hinduphobia claim to be "leftist".
He is a real French man , lovely man, the French are a proud people, lovely review greetings from the Netherlands
Caste system is not the name for what he's referring to.
Very animated & fun to listen to 😂 & he's right about caste system & about many other things he talked about
He sounded nice, but the caste system is incomplete without mentioning reservations.
@@thesagarmahapatra For a colonized mind that worship white men, they always "sound nice" and even forces Indians to simp for them.
India is a country that respects all religions, everyone gets equal rights, all types of people are welcome in our country, now there is no discrimination against anyone, no matter what caste or religion he belongs to.
Quite a learning :)
He really does understand the Indian culture very well . I respect that
He understands nothing about India
No, he understands nothing. He is just rambling. He know nothing abt caste system but talking like an expert. Caste system is everywhere in every single religion, society, country, history.
Society was, is and will be divided on the basis of something here we named it caste. Take any country history u will fell this caste system.
And foreigners and even Indian have wrong information of caste system. First of all that's not what it's called and second of all it was dependent on profession of the person not birth.
He actually know India better than many Indians. Maybe because he doesn't have to be defensive about it. Many educated Indians will say we don't care about caste and it might be true in their own little world but it is very alive in rural India and among the very rich.
Lol !
Intresting exp......🖒🖒
One thing in India is that a lot of opinions are encouraged:
There is a great left leaning film from Kerala called Great Indian Kitchen.
Then there is another great Kerala film which is right leaning called Biriyaani with Kani Kasturi.
Then in Mizoram there is an artist called Remkimi Cherput who glorified Indian army in the song When You Go.
Also Young Fella from Mizoram released a new song called 1966 in which he glorified the Mizo rebels of 1966 and showed Indian army officials beating up MNF cadres.
Unfortunately those people who espouse free speech will be triggered by films like Biriyaani and songs like When you go.
He may be a decent man, but he clearly has pre conceived notions about things & has some negative stereotypes and expectations. Mostly because of his leftist world view.
For instance when he talked about love affair he said how a Muslim boy will get beaten up if he love a Hindu girl, but never talked about the reverse which is way more prevalent.
Such kind of subtle biases arising from defective & coloured world view, can be observed in this interview.
He is a Muslim.What more can u expect from him...
They have their agenda and they are very clear about it!
his observation about the class and caste divide in India is amazing
He is showing his hatred against bhramans and Catholics , 9:30
I really like your videos but I wish you would ask more questions about how those people ended up the country, what brought them there. Also what they do there, how they got work etc. From this video I think he married someone, thats why he moved to Mumbai? And he is a teacher at Alliance Francaise, but how did he get work and find jobs? Anyway thanks
your best and most innocent guest ( what a good innocent soul). Cheers.
He will offend both Muslim and Hindus 😂 but he’s not wrong
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OF course. How can anyone commenting on "caste", "cows", "Sati", "toilets", "women abuse" be ever "wrong".
This is the "reality" of India as per Bigots.
@@odomangulati7079 what exactly are you objecting to? which statement and at what timestamp?
@@nirvanabliss73 I don't have the patience to watch the video again to timestamp it. His view of India from the prism of "caste", "slums", "corruption", "religion" and "women abuse" is normal only for the blind and those with low self esteem.
@@odomangulati7079 Very difficult to know what you are specifically referring to, hence difficult to understand and comment
The current PM of India is Dalit / OBC - There are a huge number of so-called Dalits in politics as Cheif Ministers and business tycoons who now discriminate against other Dalits- which means it was never entirely about the caste but maybe hygiene issues back then - The WEST usually like to blow this out of proportion and use it as a stick ti beat us for several years. The caste system is western term - we call it varna profession or jati community
If he’s lived in India 25 years he’s Indian at this point (I say this as a French-passport holder of Indian descent and OCI holder)
I have lived in USA and France … now living in india. I don’t think caste system is really that prevalent in modern India. India consists of a large number of young people and majority of them have no interest in the caste system. I would say it is more of a socioeconomic class system .. the rich taking advantage of the poor as he said… irrespective of the caste. When it comes to arranged marriage .. it is a matter of personal preference … people of the same community have similar habits and so it is naturally easier to get along in an intimate relationship. But in love marriage … it does not matter.
spot on, nail on head. perfect explaination for those who didnt understand
Your guest is right in some aspects and wrong in some,,,
As a Muslim,he seems biased
can u pls elaborate
You mean India is NOT 'caste". "cow" "sati" "toilent" "slum" and "corruption" ?
How dare you question a white man. shame shame puppy shame.