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- Kevin Rudd was Australia's former prime minister. And well before that career, he was and is an academic, a Sinologist, a specialist in China. With a PhD on Xi Jinping. He is also author of The Avoidable War, The Dangers of Catastrophic Conflict between the US and Xi Jinping's China. Paul Rudd worries that Beijing and the United States might clash in a hot war.
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I wish we had this type of reporting in the US
You guys have Tucker Carlson lol
@@jonathanbelanger6574 Tucker just wants to watch the world burn.
We do, I'm watching this from the US. Point being, yes our media sucks, but thanks to the internet - and the dominance of English - we can go elsewhere.
DW have been building a good reputation the last couple of years. The place to be for geopolitics, energy discussions and interviews.
@@jonathanbelanger6574 and CanEHduh has? Oh, I forgot, CanEHduh doesn't matter.
So great Germany has this station with this guest and this host to this topic!
Outstanding, very informative!
"Rundfunkgebühren" invested very well!
Funnily enough, DW isn’t actually funded by the Rundfunkbeitrag but through tax money instead. No idea why.
I have to disappoint you. DW has nothing to do with the independent German media and doesn’t get anything from GEZ (or their new marketing names).
DW is fully funded directly by the state through „real“ taxes and is the only government station left in Germany. So they are inherently biased (even if they would deny it ofc).
It is financed from federal taxes.
Kudos to the interviewer here for asking some solid questions.
There's a reason we're building $100 billion worth of microchip plants in the U.S. It's so in twenty (20) years when China does finally invade Taiwan, we can sacrifice it to the Commies without jeopardizing our national security. Don't you just love our leaders standing up for Democracy? >_
Her interview was excellent.
Yup!
Mr. Rudd is a pleasure to listen to. Totally kept my attention. Danke sehr DW
Crystal clarity. I'm much better informed. Thank You Sir....and Thank You DW....
Impressively intelligent interviewer with a genuinely expert interviewee. What a refreshing change from usual media dross.
Impressive to the ignorant
@@sayreharder1541 you’re a clown.
I was thinking the same thing... she is clearly informed enough that she could be the one being interviewed.
"impressively intelligent interviewer", good God, doesn't take much to impress you, does it! nauseating sycophancy!
This was a great interview ! . Hope to see more of Mr. Kevin Rudd.
Next time, ask the question whether the NATO can avoid a war with Russia.
You'd be the only one that wants to see more of this 🤡. Worst PM in Australian history.
No you dont really want to see more of him-and his knowledge of China is very superficial.
@@masterchefmurphy1 unfortunately, a large proportion of the Australian population lack the intelligence to appreciate a PM of such adept standing.
Fortunately for me, I'm not a member of that demographic.
@@masterchefmurphy1 Thats ironic considering in the GFC Australia was one of 5 countries that didn't go into a recession 🤔
FYI you’ve called Kevin Rudd “Paul Rudd” in the description. 🤣
Great interview revealing a lifetime of accumulated knowledge by a serious observer.
Not really. Just a lot of mumble jumble!
I hope Germany is an independent country, but seems not
Dang man we need some good headlines. It’s been 4 years of the razors edge at this point
@DW News this is not a proper 1080p video. Logo overlay is OK, base video is low res.
At the very least he replies to a question with a direct answer, immediately,
That's because he's not a politician any more and he's simply here to sell his book.
@@hermesliteratus882 lol a bit more than that. He heads the asia society. His full time job is chinese analysis.
@@dekumutant That may be so, but to me, he's just another washed up power broker and in my country, no one takes him seriously.
@@hermesliteratus882 why because he doesnt say what you want to hear? this man has done his research and speaks on facts
@@hermesliteratus882 At what point is someone not a "washed up power broker" post politics. He is quite seriously one of the most qualified westeners on earth to talk about this. As an Aussie plenty of people here take him very seriously despite media empires trying to assasinate his character at every moment.
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Wow such expertise, most informative and interesting
Is it me or does 1080P look awfully similar to 720P
This is an exceptional interview.
I've never seen an ex-PM give a speech like this. Awesome N
there’s nothing awesome about this… there’s no explicit criticism for China.
@@alexcipriani6003 he’s talking intellectually about how the west will defeat china, and you think he’s pro china…?
@@L333gok never said that
He is widely regarded to be somewhat self delusional about China. So he has insights for sure but maybe is too close for judgment.
I also think he was very articulate in his thoughts about the two powers, and made a rationale argument why China would not or is very hesitant in challenging the rest of the world. The economic and financial consequences are too great plus they are fearful they would lose in their war efforts.
I have cited Kevin Rudd's articles and works in my post-graduate studies and academic papers. A very solid intellectual with evidence-based knowledge about China and a globally renowned Sino-ethnographic researcher.
Kudos my professor.
Nobody understand china then chinese themself. Kevin rudd still an anglo person point of view
He's the man.
Global 😂 yeah nwo pied piper
Look at all of these angry CCP bots. 😂
@@Love_N_Let_Live at least better then angry blm mobs who destroyed the whole city 😂😂
I can't believe you guys invited Kevin Rudd to Germany! I think he had summed up the key points in the 20th Party Congress report for us audiences and defined the 2 era as a pivot point.
Yeah, he is an insider.
I cant believe they invited this Chinese spie. He was the biggest mistake we the Australian people ever made , i am glad we run him out .
I can't believe that you think statesmen only ever need to talk to US audiences.
@@nathanolson3135 …🦶Rudd 👉…👋
@@neddyladdy except Rudd is a long known supporter of Xi.
Inevitable because an established power will always attack a rising power at a point of time to secure its position imposing it own interests on other
It all depends on the US Arm Industries. If war with China bring in more profits for them and more money for the US Lawmakers n their families pockets, Yes, there will be war. If the war wipe out all their industries or their earnings, and the US Lawmakers will lose all their kickbacks, no way will they start a war with China or Russia.
Beautiful! You have way better understanding about the war than Kevin Rudd. He will not say anything like this!
As a Chinese, I would say don't provoke China. They will fight back like the Korean war with very advanced technology and machines.
@@pingweili3442 yeah nah m8. CCP is dead in a war
A calm and measured report.
What intelligent questions and what a knowledgeable interviewer! Great interview!
Indeed
A very good analysis 👍
PhD in Xin Jinping 😂😂😂 John cena could never
If only all diplomats/politicians were as intelligent as Kevin...
He made a pretty unimpressive PM.
@@howardsimpson489 *cough cough* redirected Australia's economy from being caught up in the 2008 global recession.
@@howardsimpson489 I don’t agree. He was one of the better ones.
@@KeepItSimpleSailor He is a technocrat, not really PM material, made some good decisions, made some bad ones and he definitely is not a people person. But here making analysis is really his calling.
Yep, he wants freedom loving people to co-exist with a government that mirders for organs….a “real trustworthy guy.”
Kevin Rudd is my favourite pundit on the subject of China. An Australian former PM who’s studied and worked in China. One of the very few people from the Western bloc who’s actually familiar with Chinese culture, allowing him to give balanced perspectives on US-China relations.
Almost every other pundit is either a CCP mouthpiece, or a pro-US mouthpiece who’s never actually set foot in China.
The fact that you refer to the government of China as CCP shows that you’re one of the anti-China pro Western pundits.
@@factsmatter6625 ok
I was surprised when he spoke perfect mandarin about the "Chinese renaissance", which i grew up indoctrinated by my teachers etc.
He's awesome! 但以獲取這麼低的Margin來說，十年之後，對國際影響不會太大。Suppose 東南亞如越南和印度在政局穩定發展下，相信十年内可以取替中国经济地位。No worry !
Nah! He just likes to show off his Mandarin every time he talks about China.
Kevin rudd is a valued political advisor for Australia. Great interview. He's a knowledgeable dude.
Great interview
Can the Chinese Winnie the Pooh stop threatening Taiwan?
Revelations 13:2
@@coronavirusisacommunistchi845 I like your ID
Don't cry baby 😂
Such a cry baby. Calling someone Winnie the Pooh on the Internet. lol
@@titaniumskunkogkush4365 Then what? Xi has lots of nicknames in China, most Chinese call him the little pupil.
Who taking interview
The most important question that wasn't put to Rudd was where would his allegiances first lie with, the CCP / China or Australia if Australia became part of any conflict.
Why do they say China is being aggressive? I haven't seen any aggressive action from China towards the US or the West.
China works very hard to limit western reporting of it's actions, it is not surprising but you can find articles on their oppression of the Uighars in what is these days north west China and the Tibetans in what is these days south west China, their attempts to increase China's borders at the expense of India and it's protectorates by force and stealth, their aggression toward Taiwan and their ruthless crackdowns on dissent toward China both within China and overseas with all kinds of force. They also regularly send paramillitary fishing fleets into the waters of other countries and try to ram and sink any military vessels that try to stop them and have seized islands in the South China Sea from other countries based on recently invented claims that the UN has ruled have no historical basis in fact.
As an Aussie Rudd's insights have always been great and he continues to speak lucidly and from a reasoned perspective. Very missed in Aussie politics
He was a disaster for Australia
I agree Max
He is one of the best we have had 🇦🇺
Couldn’t disagree more. Kevin Rudd was an absolute shambles and heralded the decline in Australian politics. Just because those who followed were worse does not make him good.
@@MR-xi2mi Relative to the liberal's decade of catastrophic failure Rudd and his administration look like an angels.
@@weewillywonga he literally kept Australians from the worst of the suffering during the global recession in '08, so well that every democracy used his plans as a scaffold for getting through COVID. You need to stop consuming Murdoch media mate.
And what is the answer?
Interesting, I didn't know "Paul Rudd worries that Beijing and the United States might clash in a hot war", DW :) Aside from that, excellent interview once again.
One of the most indepth conversation I have seen on a new media in a long while.
Excellent interview. Moderator asked the right questions, very professional. I think Kevin Rudd is the most insightful and analytical person of China at the moment. Also his statements are detailed and rich in information not given by the mainstream press.
Thank you DW. Germany‘s best programm.
I´m impressed with his knowledge of languages and pronunciation. He pronounces Chinese names in a Chinese way, French names in a French way and "Deutsche Welle" in a German way :-)
That is a problem for many countries.
Very enlightening! Thank you.
Well spoken
I wish there is a video on Kevin Rudd's PhD thesis.
when it come to the US and war, the question is always not about whether the US can avoid war, but does the US want to avoid war?
They want a proxy war, but not a direct hot war with China, for they had being kicked so badly for 2 times, both time the Chinese was in much low tech and terrible finance support, today, both are that huge of different, just look at the US military reaction now a days when they send war ship near China, they dare not act like 20 years ago, when it comes to military encounter in the sea, the US always ran with their tail between their legs. When they send submarine to South China sea, they "ran into the undersea hill".
Does US want A direct war with China? No. An indirect war with China? Yes.
A direct war between 2 nuke armed country is a disaster for everyone. An indirect war over Taiwan is what USA really wanted to happen. But now the question is any indirect war has the possibility to become a direct war. Is both China and USA’s leaders smart enough to keep fighting an indirect war.
@@eveleung8855 LOL. You are delusional.
@@eveleung8855 🤣 ......The United States was built on war....When was the last time China had a war🤔. Exactly, USA does not run from anyone or anything.
@Seldom_Seen of course of course, the US never ran from anyone or anything, they just "Evacuated" from Vietnam and Afghanistan in a "orderly" style. And they just discussing, use nuclear on China to turn the Korean war tide, of course that just a discussion only.
Great interview. Very informative. Thank you.
You are as Australian or German about as much as I am Chinese...
@@jondoe1622 What has that got to do with the price of duck eggs in downtown Beijing? Is it a requirement to be from one of those countries to find it informative?
@@Bobbydazzlla in my experience people that leave comments such as that aren't people at all.
@@jondoe1622 Maybe trolling just isn't your game?
Tough for you Jon 'Doh'... very human... its was a good interview that's my opinion so suck it... PS thanks Bobbydazzalla... Jon Doh is a sad sad little troll.... thank you for the chuckle
Newscast that tells the truth and asks hard questions....Great interviewer
he is fluent in Mandarin, too. Nice. He speaks it better than me lmaoo
The "One-China Policy" is not about Taiwan being part of China because the Taiwanese government also claims that Mainland China is also part of their territory as much as the CCP claims Taiwan .. It's really about Taiwan claiming to be the "real China" and the true successor government after the last Qing Dnyasty. Taiwan's official name is "Republic of China" after all. As a matter of fact, the CCP and the Nationalist where just one of many warlords fighting each other in a power vacuum when the imperial rulers were over thrown.
I really enjoy the work that DW puts out. It's 1st rate! I wish we had this kind of journalism / dialogue in the US. I don't have anything more than the most rudimentary knowledge of Kevin Rudd and what he's all about but this was a great interview. He seems to have a great depth of knowledge of what he's talking about and a good level of communication skill to be able to put it across.
I found him to be a decent PM. while I certainly did not agree with every decision he made, I thought him an honorable( for a politician) man. He certainly did not deserve to be deposed from leadership by political backstabbery.
He had some decent policy ideas, which i believe caused his downfall. His "sorry" speech while being mostly ceremonial was at least a first step.
And he was a Queenslander, so there's that 🤠
? DW is dog water. Terrible. Just a touch above the BBC but that doesn't say much.
@@supahsmashbro Then don't hang around. No one here will miss you.
@@hughjass1044 Here for Kevin Rudd. Although it seems he's changed into more of a mouthpiece for the interests of the neocons. Still not bad though. If they have another good guest I'll check it out. Otherwise don't worry I wouldn't come to this cesspool
Interesting question. Thank you for the topic. I agree with the rest of those posting here. It is very refreshing to have factual news. Thank you.
Good interviewer!
i would be interested in seeing a corporation war and conflict.
Imagine if politicians across the globe were this well read! Instead of intellectuals like this we get to choose between psychopaths and sociopaths.
DW provides deep insight coming from experts. Much appreciated!
Why its ALWAYS just before a Book Release?
Lol why does it say “Paul Rudd” in the caption
Excellent explanation. Good insight
We all need each other really, it's silly to continue down the path of any war nowadays. Only crazy war leaders create wars. In the end, we are all here on the same planet, it's a shame that we just can't get along and work together to make our human race push forward.
A very rich slice of geopolitical analysis ;
one almost requires two cups of tea to digest this lot.
Doesnt look like it wants to avoid a war with anyone 😅
China is a province of Taiwan.
I wish US media would take notes. This is what journalism is. I have turned exclusively to DW for all my news, including US news.
Same here....
Bloody Kev!
Look up "Kevin Rudd swearing" about the mandarin language.
Fantastic conversation.
Mr Rudd is awesome and articulate!
PM Kevin Rudd is one of the westerners who understand how Chinese think and how the power system is constructed
One of the best PMs Australia has ever had without a doubt!
pretty scary to hear what he thinks about xi and xi's goals.
Wow, only just realised how much K-Rudd looks like Mr. Garrison from South Park.
Can the war get started already please....what's the hold-up?
Just a few men around the world hold the fates of billions in their hands. I'm worried for the fate of humankind.
This woman is a really smart interviewer and this man is very thoughtful and honest. This is my favorite clip on china situation. Thank you both so much.
There was a lot of good info and analysis so n and so forth.
5:23 He had me up until he said "the combined financial market b/t (the US and China) is $5T". Hopefully he just misspoke, but 10x is a big miss.
Sorry...you are wrong and he is right...but then...I would have expected that from an expert on these matters!
The combined trade isn't 500 billion though
@@FrankWinchester Kev said 5 trillion. That's it in a nutshell!
He is talking about the total size of the Chinese and American financial markets.
i think you are referring combined GDP and he was referring the financial market alone but consider US has a huge financial market, 5T actually sounds understated to me
This question can be answered by another question: "How likely is China to invade Taiwan?"
It’s a civil war because Taiwan technically is a province of China
It is unite taiwan, not invade.
is not invatlion, no country can invade itself!
It will. no question about it. The only question is "When"?
@William James Sidis ask scotland
Let's kneel and crawl every minute, and then feel the heart chanting: China, China, China
What war ???
He seems very keen on telling us the answer to these questions are IN THE BOOK! lol
I know because I wrote the policy for Obama... 😆
Politics is all about the grift, if you don't know it by now you better learn it fast.
I live in Taiwan and have read Rudd's book. I didn't love some of his prescriptions which essentially amount to appeasement, but I'm used to politicians reducing Taiwan to an abstract concept, a chess piece, etc. I think it's still worth a read, but I would keep in mind how often he takes China at its word when one should apply more skepticism. "Xi promises to take Taiwan by 2050" is treated as confirmation that it WILL happen, as if the CCP has always kept its promises. I think you can maintain peace without responding to everything China says, threatens, and demands as non-negotiables and absolute truths; it always has and always will be watered down with copious amounts of posturing.
The question is not Can, it is a matter of If.
Politicians systems never works always ends in wars
We are dancing on the edge of a nuclear cliff. I am 71 years old and practiced duck and cover in the first grade. Never have we been so close to nuclear annihilation.
US world hegemony. Just like a cornered, scared animal will lash out, the US is extremely afraid it isnlosong its coercive tactics on the world. More and more countries are not allowing their resources be plundered by the US.
That is why the US has already started its War against Chija.
With how humanity has been ruining the planet, its really just a matter of faster or slower deaths.
The political leaders must aware that people select him with high expectations of him to look after the well being of them. However, most leaders like to take action with their own hands and cause the world plunges into recession. The war between China and USA with his alliant may put the world plunges into deep crisis.
Don't shoot your best customer - Economics 101
_Yes if the US reviews its geographical and foreign historical knowledge_
The real question is: who really is aggressive? If you have a far away country coming to your door and making an awful lot of military manoeuvres with their neighbouring vassals in the area, then you have to be prepared for a potential attack by these 'belligerent' military moves.
China is aggressive. Military manoeuvres are a "deterrent", not a threat to China.
China says it is a threat to gain sympathy.
There is no danger to China, as long as China does not "force" 45 million Taiwanese to become slaves to CCP.
Well that's basically what Putin says. Regardless, I do think you have a point IF China were a peaceful country, a good neighbour, busy on improving the quality of life of its citizens. it would indeed be egregious to practice war games on its very borders, it would be like Canada running aggressive military drills, firing missiles over the top of Ireland.
However this hasn't been true about China for over a decade. Today we see heavy militarism, internal crackdown on individual freedoms, centralization of all power, unparalleled surveillance and monitoring of its own citizens (not even taking about Xinjiang or Tibet), repudiation of its own pledges regarding Hong Kong, belligerent expansion in the South China Sea, harassment of India both directly and through vassal states Pakistan and Myanmar, harassment of Japan and South Korea through vassal state DPRK, bullying peaceful (and defenceless) small neighbours like Bhutan - I have more but let's just stop there!
@@RasheedKhan-he6xx 你需要咨询奥巴马的亚太在平衡政策再来谈中国军国主义。 我们绝不会让鸦片战争发生第二次，即使这意味着人类灭绝也不会让西方人在羞辱中国一次。 美国人想要战争那就进行战争。
He is an Aussie, well done Mr Rudd. 👍
Would love to know Rudd's views on the removal of Hu Jintao from the closing ceremony of the 20th CPC Congess today!
He's a old man. Wasn't feeling well. West always make nothing into something.
@@pgdog888 That is one interpretation I'll admit.
@@pgdog888
"wHy DoN't We AlL jUsT gIvE uP, pArDnEr?"
*"Well that's very convincing..." (SLAP)*
Hu is 80 with dementia…he needed an assistant to lead him. Just watch the videos
@@jeffpotter2934 Xi has decimated Hu's power base - The Communist Youth League - and Hu opposed granting Xi a 3rd term as president so who knows what really is going on!
Like to see a debate between Rudd and Pompeo
i know what you are expecting man
I’m proud that Kevin Rudd was our prime minister in Australia, I wish we had more of that, in our and the worlds politicians.
Buddha taught us that the more we want something the more we become unhappy. Let's the people of Taiwan decide how they want to live.
True ! Let the people in Southern Ukraine decided their fate with Russia
Taiwan should see how India hindus are treating Kashmir before criticizing China
It is easy to quote Buddha but very difficult to follow him
Scots think so too
Give me freedom or give me death.
Yes.
Go kevo out there doing your bit on avoiding a fight with china.
“I know it because I wrote it”
Savage!!
Agreed, not often can one cite oneself as a source for the matter being discussed at hand on a major news show.
general McArthur said nope
there will be a split between currency use, rather than one controlled by just the US dollar. each nation will use a gold standard of exchange.
You won't find anyone more Learned than Kevin Rudd on China's weirdness !
Silly remarks of an ignorant creature
@@yaoliang1580 LIKE YOU
Check out the china show on yt
It would be interesting to see how much Beijing is now so-well-footed in Australia, and who brought them there in the first place should give you a good idea whom to ask when it comes to China.
Rudd was a good PM in oz. He was given a hard time but that’s politics. A smart guy doing the book circuit now. Let’s hope there’s not another war
Stay around Mr. Kevin. We will need you to translate all the Chinese scrolls 📜 in the upcoming war.
They better try to avoid this nightmare. I mean, come on.
Just curious what is Beijing threat??