I have been educating my 9 children for the last 17 years. Recently, I have read The Abolition of Man, Norms and Nobility, Ten Ways to Destroy Your Child's Imagination, Teaching from Rest, and Desiring the Kingdom. I was unable to find a way to organize all of the principles that I had learned. Then I stumbled onto this lecture. The eight points outlined all of main principles that I had learned in the books that I had read. I can't adequately express how grateful I am to have this framework that you have taught. I no longer feel overwhelmed and burdened by too many unconnected thoughts. May God bless you for your scholarship.
Incredible. I'm going through university and this video completely reframed the way that I look at how to study and educate myself, I think this video has value far beyond just teaching others. Thank you.
I am 34 years old and I used to panic over the fact that I had to start working at some point in my life. I was doing one degree after the other, I was so eager to learn and develop as a person and not get trapped into the routine life. I am now working with something completely unrelated to my studies, and I love it. I am using who I am through what I've learnt to enjoy a whole new world. Now I am back to studies, and this time around I've been terrified; will I be motivated? Why would I do this when I have work that I enjoy - and a steady income? Because deep down, I want to learn. I want to get hooked on a subject that will open my eyes a little bit more. Today was the first day for me back to uni. I decided to look for a video on TH-cam about pedagogy before opening the thousands of pages in black and white that I know I have to go through. I chose the right one, I am not scared anymore. I am left with wonder. Thank you :)
Thank you a lot. I'm from Brazil and I'm so glad because i "discovered" what is classical education about when I'm was 18. It means i have time and certain a long path to walk through.
The Eight Essential Principles of Classical Pedagogy Dr. Christopher Perrin Die 8 essentiellen Prinzipien der klassische Bildung Pädagogik 1. Festina lente - Eile mit Weile Nicht überstürzt sondern besonnen zuerst planen. Jeden Schritt perfektionieren dann zum nächsten fortschreiten. 2. Multum non multa - Weniger ist mehr Nicht zu viele Gegenstände gleichzeitig unterrichten. Besser fokussieren und Gegenstände in der Tiefe verstehen als viele Dinge oberflächlich zu streifen. 3. Repetitio mater memoriae - Wiederholung ist die Mutter des Lernens Besonders junge Schüler lieben es zu wiederholen und wir wollen mit dem Strich unterrichten. Aber auch ältere Schüler brauchen in größeren Abständen Wiederholung. 4. Embodied learning - Verkörpertes Lernen Bildung ist kein rein rationaler Ideenaustausch. Es geht nicht primär um Information sondern um Formation des ganzen Menschen, dem aufblühen der Seele in den Tugenden. Atmosphäre, Architektur, Kleidung, Medien, Experimente, Liturgie, Licht ist wichtig damit alle Sinne angesprochen werden. 5. Lieder, Gesänge und Melodien Liebe zur Musik in den Kindern kann besonders in der Wiederholung kreativ eingesetzt werden. 6. Staunen und Neugierde Kultivierung des Entdeckergeistes im Kind. Staunen führt uns zur Anbetung die uns zur Weisheit führt. 7. Bildungstugenden Ein Schüler ist wörtlich “Studere” der Eifrige und Wissbegierige. Um also überhaupt Schüler in diese Sinne zu haben müssen wir diese Tugenden in ihnen kultivieren. 1. Mäßigung 2. Liebe 3. Demut 4. Tapferkeit 5. Ausdauer 6. Standhaftigkeit 7. Fleiß 8. Schole, Contemplation, Muße Das Wort Schule kommt von “Schole” was Freizeit, Muße, Spiel bedeutet. Viel Zeit für Contemplation, Muße, Konversation, Diskussion zu haben. Es soll ein Geist von Ruhe und Contemplation im Klassenzimmer herrschen. K-6 Grammar WonderPiety Gymnastik Musice Arts Liberal Arts Triviu Quadrivium 7-9 12-14 Logik Dialektik Worship Philosophie 10-12 Rhetorik Wisdom Theologie
I feel like I'm listening to a sermon. Preach on! On a serious note, as an early childhood educator, this video has given me a new pair of spectacles that improves my vision to 20/20. Thank you Dr. Perrin!
Thank you so much for confirming how I believe children should be taught. I had my own family daycare for 16 years and it wasn't until I started working in a center that I realized that things were done differently. The children were not having any fun. I wasn't having any fun because things were so scripted and rushed that I have been having a difficult time with going through the process of teaching and watching my kiddos learning. I have to keep the schedule. Everything is about the daily schedule and the curriculum that changes every month. I will find a way. Thanks to your guidance.
I intend to have a repeat view, This talk is helping me to select subjects that I love , slow down and acquire a deeper attachment to the intent of the subject .learning is an ongoing process Thanks.
Sir. I am a Spanish teacher in a classical classroom. I teach HL in Spanish to my students and I appreciate the comment that we should do more by doing less. The latin phrase Multun non multa hits a chord for me as I long for my students to be able to understand the course as a whole and thus allow them to search intelligently about Spanish for the needed parts to create say a sentence and eventually a conversation. The beauty then would be to allow them to see the beauty that the author has left for them in Spanish by the simplicity of words and the volume of meaning. These silent words are there not because we speedily made it through a course in Spanish but that we are aware of what we know and are able to access that information for our own enrichment and that of the beauty of it as we share in it with others.
I knew when i decided to home educate my children i wanted to focus on philosophy the bare bones not all the fluff which came with boxed curriculum school at home. i wanted to follow a socratic method but as i was not taught that way albeit i was taught classically, i was lost. you put a name to what i was looking for and that wonder has stuck me and i am eager to learn more to share with my children. thank you so very much.on a side note my shift key is not working, and this video is not long enough. i will be watching the indebpth principle topics. i wish you could have followed your heart on each and simply cut the video in chunks. try sitting or reclining. i am reminded of the greek image of baacus. the wine god if i am not mistaken. reclining with grapes and wine laughing and talking with guest.
Wow! Your lecture is extraordinarily inspiring , and exceptionally refreshing in the era of corporate-profits oriented core curriculum . Getting back to basics, and retrieving some of our HUMANITY in the realm of education is critical. This video will be plastered across all of my Facebook core curriculum opt out groups and my personal page . As a emerging homeschool mom, and Dr. of Clinical Psychology , this love of learning is what we strive offer my son :-)
Dr Perrin, Many thanks, very enlightening indeed and nope...I have not forgotten 75% of your talk,;one because I have seen it twice, and because I have the old habit of taking notes. :)
I find this to be exactly as I have thought upon education for all my life. We are so hasty with all subjects we do not actually have the contents of the subject learned. For example take the subject I studied in collage and still study history. The lack of depth in our historical education is appallingly low. It is not totally the fault of the teacher I believe we should re-think how children actually learn. Take language my son speaks two languages English and High German and I notice myself it is through slow and steady habit it is as Aristotle wrote in that we are what are habits are in that they shape our characters through life. Much of this talk is very correct in my view.
Really wish people would learn to upload videos with balanced audio. I hate how I hate to either live with it, or unbalance my audio channels just for this one video, meaning I have to watch this video in its entirety while not pausing it to listen to something else, or adjust my channels to listen to something else, or bear it for other audio sources, etc. At least the audio is on the right side.
"75% of what you are introduced to here, will be forgotten within a week." - Certainly something to think about... (at 24 minutes). - BUT... does this also mean that we didn't learn anything from the 75% forgotten...?
I really enjoyed the discussion of the theory and the experience. You caught me confused at the introduction of the idea that the secular world is killing curiosity and awe. Which you seem to associate godliness with these facilities. We're you preaching? Aside from this I loved the introduction to classical pedagogy it's a fascinating subject and thank you for your video.
Is classical education only limited to people who believe in Christianity or in God? I'm interested in the classical education I just have different beliefs.
+Andrea Mariano Madam, I should like to take a moment to communicate with you what classical education will do if you pursue it: 1. Classical education teaches one the power of learning: to gather facts into bodies of knowledge; to correctly organize that knowledge into understanding; and to transform that understanding into wisdom, (which is the right use of knowledge). With wisdom comes the power to succeed in all one's endeavors. 2. Classical education teaches one the power of thinking: to control one's thoughts and actions, thereby granting the power of insight (to see any thought or feelings for what it truly is, one's own or another's), and the self-discipline to act in accord with your insights and decisions. 3. Finally, classical education teaches one to recognize and to love that which is good, true, and beautiful; to refuse that which is evil, false, and grotesque; the head sees, the heart feels, and the body acts. In this way, the head rules the heart and the heart rules the appetites, and one becomes fully human. Classical education came to us by way of Greece and Rome, who were pagan civilizations; These wisest of ancient peoples wanted to be the best humans possible, and this learning method is one of their crowning achievements, the best ever invented for the purpose. When their worlds died, the Christian civilization that followed loved the best in those lost worlds and preserved the classical learning (there is something in true Christianity that demands excellence in everything). Now as classical education concerns you, Madam: the weight of history, the multitudes of others who went on before you and learned by this method - many who were not of Christian faith - bears testament to the fact that you too can learn by this method. It is open to all who will put in the labor! One word of warning: Should you recognize in your other beliefs what is true, good, and beautiful, Madam, the newfound training within you will compel you to believe these beliefs more fervently and to live them more devoutly: but should you discover the reverse - a lack of truth ,goodness, and beauty in your other beliefs - that same training will repel you against what you profess. Take up the sword if you will, but know that it is sharp and keen to its purpose. Sincerely, A Classical Teacher
This is exactly what I found in my own research of the subject. A month into posting my original comment I've already read How To Read a Book by Mortimer J. Adler and Well Trained Mind by Susan Bauer. I got myself Wheelock's Latin and I'm just starting to do the exercises. Being an autodidact myself, I really fell in love with this whole Classical Education.
I really enjoyed the video and most of the knowledge you had to share, I am just not sure it needs to include anything about God. If I do not have similar beliefs does classical pedagogy not apply to me? Thanks again for your post.
It does include God. You might look for something that helps to lay out a more secular version of Classical Education, but it was originally conceived as a Christian way of education...which is why I don't do it.
Nathan (and I'm Not-Sure) Christians happen to be the guardians of classical pedagogy today in the West, but if you look into history you'll see that the methods of classical educators come from Plato, Aristotle, Cicero, and many others who had varying religious beliefs. Just stick with Plato and you'll go far.
Even assuming that the grammar stage of classical, or medieval education is properly reproduced in children with chants or whatever, I strongly question the usefulness of this practice, and am convinced that the conceptual faculty of children should be cultivated as soon as possible, while not using material too abstract. Preschoolers may be able to parrot through rote learning, (maybe with songs of whatnot), Newton's laws of motion, so perhaps they can better learn the subject properly years later, (or for some other ridiculous motive). The attempt can be made to teach the subject to them properly, which would probably be even more ridiculous. Or, in preschool, they can learn the most basic elements of arithmetic that is well-within their capability, (and apparently even with the extremely limited conceptual faculty of some animals), which I think better prepares them for their future studies, (and not only math, which should go without saying), than by mere mimicry, no matter how pleasing it is to the students. Teaching in this way at first I wouldn't say it harmful, and I don't how long classical revivalists think it should last, but as soon as the conceptual faculty can be exercised, it should be. Considering how language and the conceptual faculty are so intertwined, if the child can speak, which is virtually always the case for any child in school, no matter how early, with the occasional exception of those who are developmentally challenged, I would say that this method of teaching by mimicry should almost never comprise the bulk of a child's education, no matter how young. Oh, I see Grammar is supposed to occupy actually the lion's share of a child's primary education. I have nothing more to say. Also, Tree of Life is garbage.
1. Make haste slowly. Festina Lente. But mastery not just ego boasting, we are on … 2. Multum non multa. Checking boxes killing interest. mastery. Less is more if retained. Find the love and appreciated. Fewer things well. 3. Repetitio mater Memoriae. Repetition is mother of memory. Focus on good, true, the beautiful. Creative repetition. 5. Songs, chants and jingles 75% will be lost and not recalled 4. Embodied learning Education is not information. Experience more than thinking. Education-Home not institutional. 6. Wonder and curiosity. 7th grade loses that. 7. Educational virtues 8. School, schole, contemplation and leisure. Business is to not be at leisure. Love what is lovely 12th HS lose wonder and need to be pulled back to K or elementary school…. Back to when they were ignorant, when they did not understand economics and value and transactions, when we did not understand relationships and politics among humans. Sex, marriage, and family value was unfathomable. Pre experience. Grammar (words), logic (reason), rhetoric (questions to consider)
I think the philosophy of the video and comment section was really interesting but by all means, why in the world does everybody want to teach kids Latin? I get that it teaches grammar and all that, but you can do that with so many other languages that are actually still spoken.
the caste system of capitalism has both parents rushing. The slowing down is a luxury these daze. When a man/woman is valued for knowledge and not how many digits are in the bank, when laws don't mandate parents, mandate life, then more can participate in schole. Mom's who can homeschole have more digits. Sad state of babble the world is in.
Maybe the man could review the definition of "alliteration." The words "eight essential" do not alliterate. They do not even create assonance. In fact the man seems to be having a good deal of trouble with language. What is he a doctor of?
alliteration (n): the occurrence of the same letter or sound at the beginning of adjacent or closely connected words. The occurrence of the letter "e" at the beginning of the 2 adjacent words - "eight essential".
Alliteration is the repetition of a consonant sound. Assonance is the repetition of a vowel sound. "Eight" and "essential" do not repeat either vowel or consonant sounds. They repeat letters but not sounds.
I do not know where you found your definition, but it is not the one most people would recognize. These literary devices depend on sound not appearance.
Alliteration occurs with EITHER the repetition of a consonant sound OR the repetition of the consonant letter. By that definition, "crazy cipher" is an alliteration, even though it's not the same sound. "Eight essential" is an assonance. It's not the same vowel sound but is the same letter. Also, "alliteration" is used generally to refer to the repetition of any sound, including vowel sounds.
I have been educating my 9 children for the last 17 years. Recently, I have read The Abolition of Man, Norms and Nobility, Ten Ways to Destroy Your Child's Imagination, Teaching from Rest, and Desiring the Kingdom. I was unable to find a way to organize all of the principles that I had learned. Then I stumbled onto this lecture. The eight points outlined all of main principles that I had learned in the books that I had read. I can't adequately express how grateful I am to have this framework that you have taught. I no longer feel overwhelmed and burdened by too many unconnected thoughts. May God bless you for your scholarship.
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Incredible. I'm going through university and this video completely reframed the way that I look at how to study and educate myself, I think this video has value far beyond just teaching others. Thank you.
I am 34 years old and I used to panic over the fact that I had to start working at some point in my life. I was doing one degree after the other, I was so eager to learn and develop as a person and not get trapped into the routine life. I am now working with something completely unrelated to my studies, and I love it. I am using who I am through what I've learnt to enjoy a whole new world. Now I am back to studies, and this time around I've been terrified; will I be motivated? Why would I do this when I have work that I enjoy - and a steady income? Because deep down, I want to learn. I want to get hooked on a subject that will open my eyes a little bit more. Today was the first day for me back to uni. I decided to look for a video on TH-cam about pedagogy before opening the thousands of pages in black and white that I know I have to go through. I chose the right one, I am not scared anymore. I am left with wonder. Thank you :)
It's four years later. Hope things went well, kind of in the same boat right now! :)
@@VAL420 I'm now doing a master's in pedagogy! :D
How's it going for you??
Thank you a lot. I'm from Brazil and I'm so glad because i "discovered" what is classical education about when I'm was 18. It means i have time and certain a long path to walk through.
The Eight Essential Principles of Classical Pedagogy
Dr. Christopher Perrin
Die 8 essentiellen Prinzipien der klassische Bildung Pädagogik
1. Festina lente - Eile mit Weile
Nicht überstürzt sondern besonnen zuerst planen. Jeden Schritt perfektionieren dann zum nächsten fortschreiten.
2. Multum non multa - Weniger ist mehr
Nicht zu viele Gegenstände gleichzeitig unterrichten. Besser fokussieren und Gegenstände in der Tiefe verstehen als viele Dinge oberflächlich zu streifen.
3. Repetitio mater memoriae - Wiederholung ist die Mutter des Lernens
Besonders junge Schüler lieben es zu wiederholen und wir wollen mit dem Strich unterrichten. Aber auch ältere Schüler brauchen in größeren Abständen Wiederholung.
4. Embodied learning - Verkörpertes Lernen
Bildung ist kein rein rationaler Ideenaustausch. Es geht nicht primär um Information sondern um Formation des ganzen Menschen, dem aufblühen der Seele in den Tugenden. Atmosphäre, Architektur, Kleidung, Medien, Experimente, Liturgie, Licht ist wichtig damit alle Sinne angesprochen werden.
5. Lieder, Gesänge und Melodien
Liebe zur Musik in den Kindern kann besonders in der Wiederholung kreativ eingesetzt werden.
6. Staunen und Neugierde
Kultivierung des Entdeckergeistes im Kind. Staunen führt uns zur Anbetung die uns zur Weisheit führt.
7. Bildungstugenden
Ein Schüler ist wörtlich “Studere” der Eifrige und Wissbegierige. Um also überhaupt Schüler in diese Sinne zu haben müssen wir diese Tugenden in ihnen kultivieren.
1. Mäßigung
2. Liebe
3. Demut
4. Tapferkeit
5. Ausdauer
6. Standhaftigkeit
7. Fleiß
8. Schole, Contemplation, Muße
Das Wort Schule kommt von “Schole” was Freizeit, Muße, Spiel bedeutet. Viel Zeit für Contemplation, Muße, Konversation, Diskussion zu haben. Es soll ein Geist von Ruhe und Contemplation im Klassenzimmer herrschen.
K-6 Grammar WonderPiety
Gymnastik
Musice
Arts Liberal Arts Triviu Quadrivium
7-9 12-14 Logik Dialektik Worship
Philosophie
10-12 Rhetorik Wisdom
Theologie
I feel like I'm listening to a sermon. Preach on! On a serious note, as an early childhood educator, this video has given me a new pair of spectacles that improves my vision to 20/20. Thank you Dr. Perrin!
Thank you so much for confirming how I believe children should be taught. I had my own family daycare for 16 years and it wasn't until I started working in a center that I realized that things were done differently. The children were not having any fun. I wasn't having any fun because things were so scripted and rushed that I have been having a difficult time with going through the process of teaching and watching my kiddos learning. I have to keep the schedule. Everything is about the daily schedule and the curriculum that changes every month. I will find a way. Thanks to your guidance.
I intend to have a repeat view, This talk is helping me to select subjects that I love , slow down and acquire a deeper attachment to the intent of the subject .learning is an ongoing process Thanks.
Sir. I am a Spanish teacher in a classical classroom. I teach HL in Spanish to my students and I appreciate the comment that we should do more by doing less. The latin phrase Multun non multa hits a chord for me as I long for my students to be able to understand the course as a whole and thus allow them to search intelligently about Spanish for the needed parts to create say a sentence and eventually a conversation. The beauty then would be to allow them to see the beauty that the author has left for them in Spanish by the simplicity of words and the volume of meaning. These silent words are there not because we speedily made it through a course in Spanish but that we are aware of what we know and are able to access that information for our own enrichment and that of the beauty of it as we share in it with others.
Two things I can takeout from this
1) Learning takes time
2) Environment has a major impact
I knew when i decided to home educate my children i wanted to focus on philosophy the bare bones not all the fluff which came with boxed curriculum school at home. i wanted to follow a socratic method but as i was not taught that way albeit i was taught classically, i was lost. you put a name to what i was looking for and that wonder has stuck me and i am eager to learn more to share with my children. thank you so very much.on a side note my shift key is not working, and this video is not long enough. i will be watching the indebpth principle topics. i wish you could have followed your heart on each and simply cut the video in chunks. try sitting or reclining. i am reminded of the greek image of baacus. the wine god if i am not mistaken. reclining with grapes and wine laughing and talking with guest.
Please learn how to type. It makes you look idiotic and unclear. Also what grades are you homeschooling your children?
I love the topic & the honest reflections of the speaker....Thanks a lot for sharing..God bless!!!
As I'm having Pedagogy class in school and soon I'm gonna write my first exam this is really interesting and helpful.
Thanx!!!!!
You are an inspiring teacher. This is truly interesting and can be used by those of us who are trying to educate ourselves.
Wow! Your lecture is extraordinarily inspiring , and exceptionally refreshing in the era of corporate-profits oriented core curriculum . Getting back to basics, and retrieving some of our HUMANITY in the realm of education is critical. This video will be plastered across all of my Facebook core curriculum opt out groups and my personal page . As a emerging homeschool mom, and Dr. of Clinical Psychology , this love of learning is what we strive offer my son :-)
Through what grades are you home schooling your child?
Dr Perrin, Many thanks, very enlightening indeed and nope...I have not forgotten 75% of your talk,;one because I have seen it twice, and because I have the old habit of taking notes. :)
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Wonderful lecture, inspiring, extatic. Thank you Christopher.
I find this to be exactly as I have thought upon education for all my life. We are so hasty with all subjects we do not actually have the contents of the subject learned. For example take the subject I studied in collage and still study history. The lack of depth in our historical education is appallingly low. It is not totally the fault of the teacher I believe we should re-think how children actually learn. Take language my son speaks two languages English and High German and I notice myself it is through slow and steady habit it is as Aristotle wrote in that we are what are habits are in that they shape our characters through life. Much of this talk is very correct in my view.
He says: 24:25 ..
Ah say, hell ye, I've been through this quite a few (many) times.
The content, and the delivery. And the voice!!
Superb!!
Than you for sharing this Chris.
Excellent lecture.
I love the honesty 😂❤
excellent video
Thank you very much for this!
So inspiring. Thanks for this!
Damn this guy knows how to teach!
Niels Bohr was Danish, not German. Great introduction, thanks for uploading this.
Really wish people would learn to upload videos with balanced audio. I hate how I hate to either live with it, or unbalance my audio channels just for this one video, meaning I have to watch this video in its entirety while not pausing it to listen to something else, or adjust my channels to listen to something else, or bear it for other audio sources, etc. At least the audio is on the right side.
thank you very very much for this!
Thank you for speaking my language and reminding me how to access what i have forgotten during the rat race. iI
"75% of what you are introduced to here, will be forgotten within a week." - Certainly something to think about... (at 24 minutes). - BUT... does this also mean that we didn't learn anything from the 75% forgotten...?
43:20 through 44:10 Wow!
I really enjoyed the discussion of the theory and the experience. You caught me confused at the introduction of the idea that the secular world is killing curiosity and awe. Which you seem to associate godliness with these facilities. We're you preaching? Aside from this I loved the introduction to classical pedagogy it's a fascinating subject and thank you for your video.
Atheism is doom.
Going to Zulon well enjoy Zulon friend.
Thank you!
i always like to learn principle education
I would like to cite your work do you have any scholarly journals that I can cite.
Up to high school it should be multa non multum, then in college we switch to multum non multa
This is cool.
Is classical education only limited to people who believe in Christianity or in God? I'm interested in the classical education I just have different beliefs.
+Andrea Mariano
Madam, I should like to take a moment to communicate with you what classical education will do if you pursue it:
1. Classical education teaches one the power of learning: to gather facts into bodies of knowledge; to correctly organize that knowledge into understanding; and to transform that understanding into wisdom, (which is the right use of knowledge). With wisdom comes the power to succeed in all one's endeavors.
2. Classical education teaches one the power of thinking: to control one's thoughts and actions, thereby granting the power of insight (to see any thought or feelings for what it truly is, one's own or another's), and the self-discipline to act in accord with your insights and decisions.
3. Finally, classical education teaches one to recognize and to love that which is good, true, and beautiful; to refuse that which is evil, false, and grotesque; the head sees, the heart feels, and the body acts. In this way, the head rules the heart and the heart rules the appetites, and one becomes fully human.
Classical education came to us by way of Greece and Rome, who were pagan civilizations; These wisest of ancient peoples wanted to be the best humans possible, and this learning method is one of their crowning achievements, the best ever invented for the purpose. When their worlds died, the Christian civilization that followed loved the best in those lost worlds and preserved the classical learning (there is something in true Christianity that demands excellence in everything).
Now as classical education concerns you, Madam: the weight of history, the multitudes of others who went on before you and learned by this method - many who were not of Christian faith - bears testament to the fact that you too can learn by this method. It is open to all who will put in the labor!
One word of warning: Should you recognize in your other beliefs what is true, good, and beautiful, Madam, the newfound training within you will compel you to believe these beliefs more fervently and to live them more devoutly: but should you discover the reverse - a lack of truth ,goodness, and beauty in your other beliefs - that same training will repel you against what you profess. Take up the sword if you will, but know that it is sharp and keen to its purpose.
Sincerely,
A Classical Teacher
This is exactly what I found in my own research of the subject. A month into posting my original comment I've already read How To Read a Book by Mortimer J. Adler and Well Trained Mind by Susan Bauer. I got myself Wheelock's Latin and I'm just starting to do the exercises. Being an autodidact myself, I really fell in love with this whole Classical Education.
Mrs. Bauer's book is a standard, and Wheelock's Latin is probably older than time itself. Merry Christmas and God's blessings on your studies!
I really enjoyed the video and most of the knowledge you had to share, I am just not sure it needs to include anything about God. If I do not have similar beliefs does classical pedagogy not apply to me? Thanks again for your post.
It does include God. You might look for something that helps to lay out a more secular version of Classical Education, but it was originally conceived as a Christian way of education...which is why I don't do it.
Nathan (and I'm Not-Sure) Christians happen to be the guardians of classical pedagogy today in the West, but if you look into history you'll see that the methods of classical educators come from Plato, Aristotle, Cicero, and many others who had varying religious beliefs. Just stick with Plato and you'll go far.
Start with the "Life and Death of Socrates" series: Euthyphro, Apology, Crito, Phaedo. Then go to Republic and you're off the races.
I thought the butter over too much toast analogy was Tolkien
Thank you! :)
im going to have my pedagogy retake for 3rd time!!And also it is my last chance i think!!!!!Oh AGod
P.S. It's Terry (or Terrence) *Mallick* (not Maddick).
Even assuming that the grammar stage of classical, or medieval education is properly reproduced in children with chants or whatever, I strongly question the usefulness of this practice, and am convinced that the conceptual faculty of children should be cultivated as soon as possible, while not using material too abstract. Preschoolers may be able to parrot through rote learning, (maybe with songs of whatnot), Newton's laws of motion, so perhaps they can better learn the subject properly years later, (or for some other ridiculous motive). The attempt can be made to teach the subject to them properly, which would probably be even more ridiculous. Or, in preschool, they can learn the most basic elements of arithmetic that is well-within their capability, (and apparently even with the extremely limited conceptual faculty of some animals), which I think better prepares them for their future studies, (and not only math, which should go without saying), than by mere mimicry, no matter how pleasing it is to the students. Teaching in this way at first I wouldn't say it harmful, and I don't how long classical revivalists think it should last, but as soon as the conceptual faculty can be exercised, it should be. Considering how language and the conceptual faculty are so intertwined, if the child can speak, which is virtually always the case for any child in school, no matter how early, with the occasional exception of those who are developmentally challenged, I would say that this method of teaching by mimicry should almost never comprise the bulk of a child's education, no matter how young.
Oh, I see Grammar is supposed to occupy actually the lion's share of a child's primary education. I have nothing more to say.
Also, Tree of Life is garbage.
I wouldnt call these essential principles. They are more like good practices. In other words, praxis, not theory
1. Make haste slowly. Festina Lente. But mastery not just ego boasting, we are on …
2. Multum non multa. Checking boxes killing interest. mastery. Less is more if retained. Find the love and appreciated. Fewer things well.
3. Repetitio mater Memoriae. Repetition is mother of memory. Focus on good, true, the beautiful. Creative repetition.
5. Songs, chants and jingles
75% will be lost and not recalled
4. Embodied learning
Education is not information.
Experience more than thinking.
Education-Home not institutional.
6. Wonder and curiosity.
7th grade loses that.
7. Educational virtues
8. School, schole, contemplation and leisure. Business is to not be at leisure.
Love what is lovely
12th HS lose wonder and need to be pulled back to K or elementary school…. Back to when they were ignorant, when they did not understand economics and value and transactions, when we did not understand relationships and politics among humans. Sex, marriage, and family value was unfathomable. Pre experience.
Grammar (words), logic (reason), rhetoric (questions to consider)
I think all children should learn only Mathematics and Latin; once they master these, they can move on.
I think the philosophy of the video and comment section was really interesting but by all means, why in the world does everybody want to teach kids Latin? I get that it teaches grammar and all that, but you can do that with so many other languages that are actually still spoken.
the caste system of capitalism has both parents rushing. The slowing down is a luxury these daze. When a man/woman is valued for knowledge and not how many digits are in the bank, when laws don't mandate parents, mandate life, then more can participate in schole.
Mom's who can homeschole have more digits. Sad state of babble the world is in.
Maybe the man could review the definition of "alliteration." The words "eight essential" do not alliterate. They do not even create assonance. In fact the man seems to be having a good deal of trouble with language. What is he a doctor of?
alliteration (n): the occurrence of the same letter or sound at the beginning of adjacent or closely connected words.
The occurrence of the letter "e" at the beginning of the 2 adjacent words - "eight essential".
Alliteration is the repetition of a consonant sound. Assonance is the repetition of a vowel sound. "Eight" and "essential" do not repeat either vowel or consonant sounds. They repeat letters but not sounds.
I do not know where you found your definition, but it is not the one most people would recognize. These literary devices depend on sound not appearance.
where is your video Jan ?
Alliteration occurs with EITHER the repetition of a consonant sound OR the repetition of the consonant letter. By that definition, "crazy cipher" is an alliteration, even though it's not the same sound. "Eight essential" is an assonance. It's not the same vowel sound but is the same letter. Also, "alliteration" is used generally to refer to the repetition of any sound, including vowel sounds.
He's so boring!!!!