Vigorth makes sense under dozing. It's the *only* Pokémon that cannot go to the Dream World due to it's ability preventing sleep. Other Pokémon with the Vital Spirit ability have alternative abilities, making them able to fully sleep to enter the Dream World. So any "deeper" sleep wouldn't have made sense for it lore wise.
I live with my pops. The best for me is when I rush home from work, tap a nap (shower and cook dinner while the naps in place) and my dad comes home from work and screams “YO BUDDY WASSUP!!!” 😂🤦♂️
From my experience, the snoozing "window" (time between movements) starts around 5 minutes; possibly even less, but I haven't tested too thoroughly. I typically set up my ++ on a cushion, and then every 10-15 minutes I push down around it (just once) to create the slight/gentle movement. Naps come out as pure snoozing every time (after the initial slumber). Looking at how DruWevr's charts sometimes hit dozing, it looks like the 3 rock method is more than you need.
Yes it's possible 3 rocks is too much. We've tested various other times as well. But the "max" time so far is around 19 minutes. It's best to look at "max" time as we can always go a bit shorter than that between movements.
@@Bropenings Totally agreed; knowing the maximum time is very valuable as it helps us make our efforts more efficient. 20 minutes to re-enter slumbering also seems like a nice, round, reasonable number that the devs would set.
I get Dozing and Slumbering the most. I remember I couldn't even get Snoozing sleep for like a month at times lol... Then for about 7 straight days straight out of every month, I get snoozing and it's ALWAYS during the time I do not need it! I put my POGO ++ on a flat surface in my closet for anywhere between 15 mins to about 2.5+ hours before I pick it up and actually put it under my pillow, inside the pillow case LOL (If I'm aiming for Slumbering, I'll wait a long time to move it into bed lol) (If I want Dozing sleep, I'll put my POGO ++ to sleep and then go grab it from the room/closet for about 20-30 mins and then move it under my pillow.) (For Snoozing sleep... My best trick is that I'll leave it on the flat surface, in sleep mode for about 1 hours. Then I'll put it under my super nice pillow, inside the pillow case, BUT, I'll use a neck pillow and that all works wonders!) All seriousness though... With a POGO ++, once you've figured out most of it, it's almost impossible to mess up your recording of your sleep! I even play the game, while it's "asleep" lol Quick tip too... It's super hard to wake up your phone from dozing if the POGO ++ hasn't already been "asleep" for hours! I HIGHLY suggest, get a HARD Cover case for your POGO ++! It zips up and causes it to not move as much, plus you will NEVER accidentally wake up lol
What works for me: Slumbering: not move at all (up to 5 or 6hrs) Snoozing: move in 10min Intervalls Sozing: move in 2 min or less intervalls There is also a way to force Balanced without hitting the "perfect" distribution: you have to move very much, but not so much that the game thinks you are traveling. I got the message "sleep style could not get determaind because of to much movement" and it ended up balanced AND counting the whole time. Probably the intensity of the movement must not exeed a certain limit
That latter point is what I meant by 'default' when there is no initial slumber. It's very harmful to sleep time tracked if you're only dozing though. There's also a "hyper" dozing I didn't cover in this video (I did previously) which just deletes all subsequent sleep data due excessive movements beyond dozing norms.
It's not perfect but here's what I've been doing to get more snoozing naps on my phone: I'll start a nap while I'm making dinner so it starts with slumbering, then have a movie or youtube on while I eat (The phone is near enough to sort of hear it). And then also leave music or youtube on during the rest of the nap. I don't listen to stuff very loud so it doesnt give me dozing. To prevent it from getting slumbering, every now and then I press on the soft surface the phone is resting on, but not touch the phone itself, so it only barely detects movement. I wasn't sure how often to do that though, too often gives me dozing. That's good to know that 19 minutes is the threshold for slumbering!
Phone tracking user here. Regarding the whole 19 minute interval shake thing... I've just downloaded an app that automatically fires off an alarm at an interval you give it for an amount of time you choose. Potentially this can simulate the shaking every 19 minutes (or more if you want dozing). I'll give it a try over the next week using a Vibrate alarm every 19 minutes for 10 seconds each interval and share results if the app is effective.
That should work too. Only issue is some of these apps are alarms and don't turn off unless you interact. So you'll need to do some smart engineering (like make the alarm very short) to make it work. Also some alarms will keep repeating until you interact also and could become dozing instead.
A day ago I managed to get a full snoozing graph (besides the start and end slumbering) for my nap, using the "gentle" strat, I held up my phone and whirled it on my hand carefully for a about 15 seconds, then to the desk again. I repeated this every 10 minutes for 2 hours and it worked nicely. I should probably test exactly how many times I must do this to count as constant snoozing, because I feel that 10 minutes could be extended up a bit.
I'm planing on forcing dozing and slumbering during the fire type event because I'll get firetypes anyway and I'm more likely to get snoozing during the entei weeks
That's an interesting approach. Most people I know didn't find a wild legendary (Raikou) during last event. I estimate 99% only got it from incense. So I'm not sure I would recommend your method but you can certainly try.
Do we know how long a range the "past data" uses for the averages? E.g. is it 2 weeks? 30 days? All time? That might impact how much you want to "cheat" your sleep stages without messing it up "permanently" for real sleep.
I’m the kinda person who gets Dozing type if I have 2% dozing. Any tips for increasing my Dozing average the week before so I can actually get Snoozing Type?
I think it goes off that exact day but from the week prior! I had 60% snoozing and less than 10% dozing and I got dozing today! For the previous 2 days, I had about 15-20% dozing and never once got dozing! But compared to last week... It adds up!
Slumber 15-20 minutes to begin session tracking. I just leave the device on the bed as I work/play on my phone. Keep the device extra close and all those movements should count as at least half-half dozing-snoozing. In which case you would get dozing sleep type since you have low dozing on average. If using phone tracking can also just try increasing the volume of the sound/noise you're playing. Just be aware if you are forcing dozing you must finish the session with another 15-25 minutes otherwise it'll record the whole dozing period as failed.
From Monday, when do you actually start taking naps. I am still not sure how everyone is doing naps and for how long. I am to scared to test it so I only ever end up doing a regular sleep sessions but it seems some people in the community including yourself tend to do 2 sleep sessions per day effectively doubling pokemon spawns.
There's no set time. Try it a few times to see if you like it. The main downside is bonus biscuit goes to the nap session. If you have enough sleep points or biscuits saved up it shouldn't be too much of a problem. One of the biggest advantages is it maintains higher pokemon energy throughout the day.
Sleep Score = recorded sleep time (minimum 90 minutes) / 510 x 100 and Drowsy Power = Sleep Score x Snorlax Strength So your Snorlax Strength needs to be high enough or a short nap won't spawn more than 3 pokemon. See raenonx Spawn Count-Score Lookup Table for more information. (And sleep score only counts up to 510 minutes a day, but you can log up to 13 hours a day for pokemon evolution. But it's not very important.)
I theorise the idea is it registers less movements because you are putting it against another (often harder) surface like a bedframe. Also perhaps less contact to the actual bed mattress means less movement detection in 3 dimension.
I happened to get Balanced this morning. 6% Dozing, 47% Snoozing, 47% Slumbering Pretty balanced indeed, so yea I might need to farm some slumbering sleep 😆 The 19 minute method is definitely interesting.
I got balanced twice in a row this week idk why it happened . Its balanced type is bad for if you try to catch some specific type Pokémon or all type of Pokémon will appear?
@@jaredbalvarez I spent an eternity on Lapis trying for a good Stufful, more often than not none of them showed up and it took me befriending 16 of them to finally get a *decent* one T_T Hope you have better luck than me!!
Ive been trying to use repeat alarm for my samsung s23, but not matter what it doesnt run all night. Same with doing google calander alerts. Its like one my phone gets too many alert notifications it stops displaying them.
So Pokémon plus + doesn’t record the sound so that means if I trigger the plus + to starting sleep and even I turn on the TV to play video games it still mark me as sleeping mode ?😂😂😂 I just don’t know what I works with plus + I thought when you turn the plus + on you should never make any sounds or they will mark you as not sleeping !!
I get Dozing and Slumbering the most. I remember I couldn't even get Snoozing sleep for like a month at times lol... Then for about 7 straight days straight out of every month, I get snoozing and it's ALWAYS during the time I do not need it! I put my POGO ++ on a flat surface in my closet for anywhere between 15 mins to about 2.5+ hours before I pick it up and actually put it under my pillow, inside the pillow case LOL (If I'm aiming for Slumbering, I'll wait a long time to move it into bed lol) (If I want Dozing sleep, I'll put my POGO ++ to sleep and then go grab it from the room/closet for about 20-30 mins and then move it under my pillow.) (For Snoozing sleep... My best trick is that I'll leave it on the flat surface, in sleep mode for about 1 hours. Then I'll put it under my super nice pillow, inside the pillow case, BUT, I'll use a neck pillow and that all works wonders!) All seriousness though... With a POGO ++, once you've figured out most of it, it's almost impossible to mess up your recording of your sleep! I even play the game, while it's "asleep" lol Quick tip too... It's super hard to wake up your phone from dozing if the POGO ++ hasn't already been "asleep" for hours! I HIGHLY suggest, get a HARD Cover case for your POGO ++! It zips up and causes it to not move as much, plus you will NEVER accidentally wake up lol
This theory sounds like nonsense. I spent over a month on the beach and I only have snoozing and only 3-5 times something else. While spending a month in theTaupe Hollow when I was looking for syndoquil, I saw nothing but slumbering. I don't use any special tactics. But I refuse to believe that my sleep type changes depending on the island I'm on.
I'm not sure what you mean by nonsense, but what you experience is normal. If you are consistently getting 1 sleep type for 1 week, you should be very concerned that the next week you probably won't get that sleep type. That's how the game balances and averages out your sleep types.
Vigorth makes sense under dozing. It's the *only* Pokémon that cannot go to the Dream World due to it's ability preventing sleep. Other Pokémon with the Vital Spirit ability have alternative abilities, making them able to fully sleep to enter the Dream World. So any "deeper" sleep wouldn't have made sense for it lore wise.
And babies need to sleep all the time!
I live with my pops. The best for me is when I rush home from work, tap a nap (shower and cook dinner while the naps in place) and my dad comes home from work and screams “YO BUDDY WASSUP!!!” 😂🤦♂️
That's dozing 🤣
From my experience, the snoozing "window" (time between movements) starts around 5 minutes; possibly even less, but I haven't tested too thoroughly. I typically set up my ++ on a cushion, and then every 10-15 minutes I push down around it (just once) to create the slight/gentle movement. Naps come out as pure snoozing every time (after the initial slumber). Looking at how DruWevr's charts sometimes hit dozing, it looks like the 3 rock method is more than you need.
Yes it's possible 3 rocks is too much. We've tested various other times as well. But the "max" time so far is around 19 minutes. It's best to look at "max" time as we can always go a bit shorter than that between movements.
@@Bropenings Totally agreed; knowing the maximum time is very valuable as it helps us make our efforts more efficient. 20 minutes to re-enter slumbering also seems like a nice, round, reasonable number that the devs would set.
I get Dozing and Slumbering the most. I remember I couldn't even get Snoozing sleep for like a month at times lol... Then for about 7 straight days straight out of every month, I get snoozing and it's ALWAYS during the time I do not need it!
I put my POGO ++ on a flat surface in my closet for anywhere between 15 mins to about 2.5+ hours before I pick it up and actually put it under my pillow, inside the pillow case LOL
(If I'm aiming for Slumbering, I'll wait a long time to move it into bed lol)
(If I want Dozing sleep, I'll put my POGO ++ to sleep and then go grab it from the room/closet for about 20-30 mins and then move it under my pillow.)
(For Snoozing sleep... My best trick is that I'll leave it on the flat surface, in sleep mode for about 1 hours. Then I'll put it under my super nice pillow, inside the pillow case, BUT, I'll use a neck pillow and that all works wonders!)
All seriousness though... With a POGO ++, once you've figured out most of it, it's almost impossible to mess up your recording of your sleep!
I even play the game, while it's "asleep" lol
Quick tip too... It's super hard to wake up your phone from dozing if the POGO ++ hasn't already been "asleep" for hours!
I HIGHLY suggest, get a HARD Cover case for your POGO ++!
It zips up and causes it to not move as much, plus you will NEVER accidentally wake up lol
I almost always get dozing and slumbering, but im definitely going to work on getting snoozing these next few weeks
What works for me:
Slumbering: not move at all (up to 5 or 6hrs)
Snoozing: move in 10min Intervalls
Sozing: move in 2 min or less intervalls
There is also a way to force Balanced without hitting the "perfect" distribution: you have to move very much, but not so much that the game thinks you are traveling. I got the message "sleep style could not get determaind because of to much movement" and it ended up balanced AND counting the whole time. Probably the intensity of the movement must not exeed a certain limit
That latter point is what I meant by 'default' when there is no initial slumber. It's very harmful to sleep time tracked if you're only dozing though. There's also a "hyper" dozing I didn't cover in this video (I did previously) which just deletes all subsequent sleep data due excessive movements beyond dozing norms.
@@Bropenings Do you know how to avoid "hyper dozing" but still force balanced by never enter slumbering?
@@Bropenings
Hyper dozing, AKA dropping the phone.
Me watching this video while Pokémon Sleep is running in the background 😂
It's not perfect but here's what I've been doing to get more snoozing naps on my phone: I'll start a nap while I'm making dinner so it starts with slumbering, then have a movie or youtube on while I eat (The phone is near enough to sort of hear it). And then also leave music or youtube on during the rest of the nap. I don't listen to stuff very loud so it doesnt give me dozing. To prevent it from getting slumbering, every now and then I press on the soft surface the phone is resting on, but not touch the phone itself, so it only barely detects movement. I wasn't sure how often to do that though, too often gives me dozing. That's good to know that 19 minutes is the threshold for slumbering!
Phone tracking user here.
Regarding the whole 19 minute interval shake thing... I've just downloaded an app that automatically fires off an alarm at an interval you give it for an amount of time you choose.
Potentially this can simulate the shaking every 19 minutes (or more if you want dozing).
I'll give it a try over the next week using a Vibrate alarm every 19 minutes for 10 seconds each interval and share results if the app is effective.
That should work too. Only issue is some of these apps are alarms and don't turn off unless you interact. So you'll need to do some smart engineering (like make the alarm very short) to make it work.
Also some alarms will keep repeating until you interact also and could become dozing instead.
Vibration will work for this too but you need to be super careful!
A day ago I managed to get a full snoozing graph (besides the start and end slumbering) for my nap, using the "gentle" strat, I held up my phone and whirled it on my hand carefully for a about 15 seconds, then to the desk again. I repeated this every 10 minutes for 2 hours and it worked nicely.
I should probably test exactly how many times I must do this to count as constant snoozing, because I feel that 10 minutes could be extended up a bit.
I tested dru's method myself and it should be ok to do it every 19 minutes.
I'm planing on forcing dozing and slumbering during the fire type event because I'll get firetypes anyway and I'm more likely to get snoozing during the entei weeks
That's an interesting approach. Most people I know didn't find a wild legendary (Raikou) during last event. I estimate 99% only got it from incense. So I'm not sure I would recommend your method but you can certainly try.
@@Bropenings I got 2 without incense, didn't know it was that rare
Do we know how long a range the "past data" uses for the averages? E.g. is it 2 weeks? 30 days? All time? That might impact how much you want to "cheat" your sleep stages without messing it up "permanently" for real sleep.
Not sure. Only realistic estimate is looking at your most recent balanced to know your average.
Great tips! Very helpful!
I’m the kinda person who gets Dozing type if I have 2% dozing. Any tips for increasing my Dozing average the week before so I can actually get Snoozing Type?
I think it goes off that exact day but from the week prior!
I had 60% snoozing and less than 10% dozing and I got dozing today!
For the previous 2 days, I had about 15-20% dozing and never once got dozing! But compared to last week... It adds up!
Slumber 15-20 minutes to begin session tracking.
I just leave the device on the bed as I work/play on my phone. Keep the device extra close and all those movements should count as at least half-half dozing-snoozing. In which case you would get dozing sleep type since you have low dozing on average.
If using phone tracking can also just try increasing the volume of the sound/noise you're playing. Just be aware if you are forcing dozing you must finish the session with another 15-25 minutes otherwise it'll record the whole dozing period as failed.
From Monday, when do you actually start taking naps. I am still not sure how everyone is doing naps and for how long. I am to scared to test it so I only ever end up doing a regular sleep sessions but it seems some people in the community including yourself tend to do 2 sleep sessions per day effectively doubling pokemon spawns.
There's no set time. Try it a few times to see if you like it. The main downside is bonus biscuit goes to the nap session. If you have enough sleep points or biscuits saved up it shouldn't be too much of a problem.
One of the biggest advantages is it maintains higher pokemon energy throughout the day.
Sleep Score = recorded sleep time (minimum 90 minutes) / 510 x 100
and
Drowsy Power = Sleep Score x Snorlax Strength
So your Snorlax Strength needs to be high enough or a short nap won't spawn more than 3 pokemon. See raenonx Spawn Count-Score Lookup Table for more information.
(And sleep score only counts up to 510 minutes a day, but you can log up to 13 hours a day for pokemon evolution. But it's not very important.)
This video saved me. 😊
Okay can someone clarify for me. When he played the music and then closed all the apps, did he lock the phone afterwards???
Turns out sound doesnt affect sleep style
Is it true that if you put your POGO ++ on an angle once you've put it to sleep for about 30ish mins to am hour, it will track snoozing?!
I theorise the idea is it registers less movements because you are putting it against another (often harder) surface like a bedframe. Also perhaps less contact to the actual bed mattress means less movement detection in 3 dimension.
I happened to get Balanced this morning.
6% Dozing, 47% Snoozing, 47% Slumbering
Pretty balanced indeed, so yea I might need to farm some slumbering sleep 😆
The 19 minute method is definitely interesting.
Got balanced today as well, I might go lapis this upcoming week and force slumbering (as I still need a good stufful) then do taupe the next two weeks
I got balanced twice in a row this week idk why it happened . Its balanced type is bad for if you try to catch some specific type Pokémon or all type of Pokémon will appear?
@@jaredbalvarez I spent an eternity on Lapis trying for a good Stufful, more often than not none of them showed up and it took me befriending 16 of them to finally get a *decent* one T_T Hope you have better luck than me!!
@@PlushiePoogle appreciate it! Fingers crossed 🤞🏼😄
Ive been trying to use repeat alarm for my samsung s23, but not matter what it doesnt run all night. Same with doing google calander alerts. Its like one my phone gets too many alert notifications it stops displaying them.
Yeah that's one of the reasons why I didn't suggest this as a suitable predictable solution.
Nice editing 😉🌽
Made sure we didn't show your favorite corn
I just want an Eevee
Theyre literally everywhere, in every area. Just need to hit snoozing.
So Pokémon plus + doesn’t record the sound so that means if I trigger the plus + to starting sleep and even I turn on the TV to play video games it still mark me as sleeping mode ?😂😂😂 I just don’t know what I works with plus + I thought when you turn the plus + on you should never make any sounds or they will mark you as not sleeping !!
Plus+ doesn't track any sound at all. You can blow the house up and it'll be slumbering as long as it doesn't move.
I get Dozing and Slumbering the most. I remember I couldn't even get Snoozing sleep for like a month at times lol... Then for about 7 straight days straight out of every month, I get snoozing and it's ALWAYS during the time I do not need it!
I put my POGO ++ on a flat surface in my closet for anywhere between 15 mins to about 2.5+ hours before I pick it up and actually put it under my pillow, inside the pillow case LOL
(If I'm aiming for Slumbering, I'll wait a long time to move it into bed lol)
(If I want Dozing sleep, I'll put my POGO ++ to sleep and then go grab it from the room/closet for about 20-30 mins and then move it under my pillow.)
(For Snoozing sleep... My best trick is that I'll leave it on the flat surface, in sleep mode for about 1 hours. Then I'll put it under my super nice pillow, inside the pillow case, BUT, I'll use a neck pillow and that all works wonders!)
All seriousness though... With a POGO ++, once you've figured out most of it, it's almost impossible to mess up your recording of your sleep!
I even play the game, while it's "asleep" lol
Quick tip too... It's super hard to wake up your phone from dozing if the POGO ++ hasn't already been "asleep" for hours!
I HIGHLY suggest, get a HARD Cover case for your POGO ++!
It zips up and causes it to not move as much, plus you will NEVER accidentally wake up lol
This theory sounds like nonsense. I spent over a month on the beach and I only have snoozing and only 3-5 times something else. While spending a month in theTaupe Hollow when I was looking for syndoquil, I saw nothing but slumbering. I don't use any special tactics. But I refuse to believe that my sleep type changes depending on the island I'm on.
I'm not sure what you mean by nonsense, but what you experience is normal. If you are consistently getting 1 sleep type for 1 week, you should be very concerned that the next week you probably won't get that sleep type. That's how the game balances and averages out your sleep types.