Thank you! I swear because of this app not only am I getting better sleep but also getting better at analytical math! Hahaha! Great job Brovinnie & Ateeque!
I see this as useful for BFS Pokemon and Berry Specialists, but it also makes an inventory up skill or two great for ingredient Pokemon overnight. Everything seems balanced to make sure no one strategy is king.
Sneaky snacking only happens when carry limit is reached (by combined berries & ingredients filling the Pokemon's inventory). Just to clarify, having a HIGH sneaky snacking ISN'T a GOOD thing. If someone is flexing how big their sneaky snacking is, it could mean their inventory are LOW. They are farming less ingredients and main skills when they're often sneaky snacking! I'm just explaining in the video HOW it is calculated. And that berries are FORCED drop instead of ingredients.
Bro, thanks for the video as always! One of the best contents for a game that doesn’t explain too much about it for us. I’m not sure about skill not triggering. I woke up this morning with full capacity on all my pokemons and both wigglytuff and quilava had their main skills triggered! I will record tomorrow so I can upload for you to see. Thanks again for the video!!
The skill triggered before your inventory got full. Then it "banked" until you woke up. It means if you have high inventory there would be more chances for a skill to trigger.
@@Bropenings oh that’s nice to know! So when I go sleep I still have few hours for my pokemons to trigger otherwise they won’t anymore. Thanks for the explanation!!
@harrynguyen755 sneaky snacking isn't a good thing! It just means your inventory is low and you hit the cap and prevents you from farming more ingredients and triggering more skills.
Thanks for the great video! This still leaves me wondering about my own experiments. I was testing sneaky snacking with my own marowak. I reloaded the game every minute between two of its drops (this is done easily by opening and closing the pokemon menu, the sneaky snacking menu will open if a pokemon experienced overflow since the last time it was loaded). My marowak under my current conditions provides 110 strength per berry, so if it has one sneaky snacking trigger, it should hit for 220 since it’s a berry specialist. What’s interesting is I have never seen 220 appear even once, the smallest number it’s seen is 440. And like I said, I checked for sneaky snacking every minute for its entire frequency period, which was roughly 20 minutes. It hit 440 once and then 440 again 20 minutes later. If I don’t time the checks that I do, then I can see 660 or 880, or even more if I let it run longer. But why can I never see 220 which is what should be expected? I think that the first berry drop a pokemon finds during sneaky snacking is worth double for some reason, that or there is a bug that makes it trigger twice the first time it overflows. Would love to hear your thoughts or see this get looked at deeper than I can.
I've thought about your comment last time but don't have an answer for you yet. If your experiment proves true, then it could be bugged. Or maybe a single trigger is never displayed and game waits for 2 triggers before counting as sneaky snacking.
@@Bropenings to your second point, I thought that could be the case as well, but if I was doing my math correctly I don’t think it’s true. At full energy I will get 440 power every 22 minutes, which lines up pretty close to its expected frequency. If it is bugged, then people could potentially be doubling their berry power by reloading every 15 to 20 minutes or so. I haven’t looked in depth enough to know for sure what’s going on
It also might be worth noting, I think the possibility of triggering a main skill happens more frequently the more berries/ingredients that mon is holding. What do you guys think?
My example is 1x because I purposely wanted to keep the maths simple. If you are sneaky snacking at 100%, you will get the usual 2.2x multiplier on frequency.
2.5x was based on very early data, and it's now believed to be closer to 2.2 according thanks to the efforts of Raenonx server's data collection and analysis.
If there’s no limit to sneaky snacking, then a good strategy would be to never collect from pokémon to maximize berry gains. But if there’s a limit (which i would think there is), then you would want to make sure you collect frequently enough so that you don’t “lose” berries. Assuming if you hit a sneaky snacking limit, you don’t get any more berries or ingredients
it might be hard to test though. because who knows if sneaky snacking limit would be a daily limit (i.e. you can’t earn more than 30k strength in 1 day from sneaky snacking), or a limit for one sneaky snacking session (total number when you open app after a while)
@@Bropenings With the information we have, and the current hard caps on Pokémon level (50), meal bonuses (+142%), and cooking pot base size (45), it seems that stacking favorite berries at 100% drop rate from Sneaky Snacking would result in higher Snorlax Strength than if you used a more balanced team to cook meals while still finding a lot of berries. Only collecting from your Sylveon or Wigglytuff to trigger its main skill to give your 4 other berry specialists more energy while they Sneaky Snack, or if you don't have one of those, then just using 5 berry specialists. Serebii indicates (on the Helper Pokémon page under the Ingredients section) that the maximum duration of Sneaky Snacking is 168 hours or exactly 1 week. If that's true, then in order to facilitate a Sneaky Snacking playstyle, you would need to collect from your Pokémon at least once a week.
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Thank you! I swear because of this app not only am I getting better sleep but also getting better at analytical math! Hahaha! Great job Brovinnie & Ateeque!
Thanks to you.and brovinnie
I see this as useful for BFS Pokemon and Berry Specialists, but it also makes an inventory up skill or two great for ingredient Pokemon overnight.
Everything seems balanced to make sure no one strategy is king.
Sneaky snacking only happens when carry limit is reached (by combined berries & ingredients filling the Pokemon's inventory).
Just to clarify, having a HIGH sneaky snacking ISN'T a GOOD thing. If someone is flexing how big their sneaky snacking is, it could mean their inventory are LOW. They are farming less ingredients and main skills when they're often sneaky snacking!
I'm just explaining in the video HOW it is calculated. And that berries are FORCED drop instead of ingredients.
Bro, thanks for the video as always! One of the best contents for a game that doesn’t explain too much about it for us. I’m not sure about skill not triggering. I woke up this morning with full capacity on all my pokemons and both wigglytuff and quilava had their main skills triggered! I will record tomorrow so I can upload for you to see. Thanks again for the video!!
The skill triggered before your inventory got full. Then it "banked" until you woke up. It means if you have high inventory there would be more chances for a skill to trigger.
I have confirmed after over 48 hours that no skill can trigger if the inventory is full the whole time
@@Bropenings oh that’s nice to know! So when I go sleep I still have few hours for my pokemons to trigger otherwise they won’t anymore. Thanks for the explanation!!
So what’s the general tip? How do we get best sneaky snacking?
@harrynguyen755 sneaky snacking isn't a good thing! It just means your inventory is low and you hit the cap and prevents you from farming more ingredients and triggering more skills.
Great analysis. You are on the top now.
On top of who?
@@Bropenings You eliminated the competition
Thanks for the great video! This still leaves me wondering about my own experiments. I was testing sneaky snacking with my own marowak. I reloaded the game every minute between two of its drops (this is done easily by opening and closing the pokemon menu, the sneaky snacking menu will open if a pokemon experienced overflow since the last time it was loaded). My marowak under my current conditions provides 110 strength per berry, so if it has one sneaky snacking trigger, it should hit for 220 since it’s a berry specialist. What’s interesting is I have never seen 220 appear even once, the smallest number it’s seen is 440. And like I said, I checked for sneaky snacking every minute for its entire frequency period, which was roughly 20 minutes. It hit 440 once and then 440 again 20 minutes later.
If I don’t time the checks that I do, then I can see 660 or 880, or even more if I let it run longer. But why can I never see 220 which is what should be expected? I think that the first berry drop a pokemon finds during sneaky snacking is worth double for some reason, that or there is a bug that makes it trigger twice the first time it overflows. Would love to hear your thoughts or see this get looked at deeper than I can.
I've thought about your comment last time but don't have an answer for you yet. If your experiment proves true, then it could be bugged. Or maybe a single trigger is never displayed and game waits for 2 triggers before counting as sneaky snacking.
@@Bropenings to your second point, I thought that could be the case as well, but if I was doing my math correctly I don’t think it’s true. At full energy I will get 440 power every 22 minutes, which lines up pretty close to its expected frequency. If it is bugged, then people could potentially be doubling their berry power by reloading every 15 to 20 minutes or so. I haven’t looked in depth enough to know for sure what’s going on
It also might be worth noting, I think the possibility of triggering a main skill happens more frequently the more berries/ingredients that mon is holding. What do you guys think?
I tried removing 1 production unit from each mon and allow pokemon to trigger skill every 24h. Only 1 mon (psyduck) triggered over 2 days.
In other words I have no idea
I was thinking to do this with dodrio because i dont have a use for soybeans
The other drawback would be no skill trigger.
This could be big for ingredient up berry specialists
Probably would avoid using ingredient up nature/skill berry specialists in general, but yes! This COULD be used in this way!
Does the energy level of the helpers matter when sleeping/sneaky snacking? Or will it always be at a multiplier of 1x or base frequency?
My example is 1x because I purposely wanted to keep the maths simple.
If you are sneaky snacking at 100%, you will get the usual 2.2x multiplier on frequency.
Wait 100% energy is 2.2x, i thought it was 2.5x?
2.5x was based on very early data, and it's now believed to be closer to 2.2 according thanks to the efforts of Raenonx server's data collection and analysis.
i really want to know if there’s a limit to sneaky snacking
Good question! I'll consider testing that next week.
How would knowing this affect your gameplay?
If there’s no limit to sneaky snacking, then a good strategy would be to never collect from pokémon to maximize berry gains.
But if there’s a limit (which i would think there is), then you would want to make sure you collect frequently enough so that you don’t “lose” berries. Assuming if you hit a sneaky snacking limit, you don’t get any more berries or ingredients
it might be hard to test though. because who knows if sneaky snacking limit would be a daily limit (i.e. you can’t earn more than 30k strength in 1 day from sneaky snacking), or a limit for one sneaky snacking session (total number when you open app after a while)
@@Bropenings With the information we have, and the current hard caps on Pokémon level (50), meal bonuses (+142%), and cooking pot base size (45), it seems that stacking favorite berries at 100% drop rate from Sneaky Snacking would result in higher Snorlax Strength than if you used a more balanced team to cook meals while still finding a lot of berries. Only collecting from your Sylveon or Wigglytuff to trigger its main skill to give your 4 other berry specialists more energy while they Sneaky Snack, or if you don't have one of those, then just using 5 berry specialists.
Serebii indicates (on the Helper Pokémon page under the Ingredients section) that the maximum duration of Sneaky Snacking is 168 hours or exactly 1 week. If that's true, then in order to facilitate a Sneaky Snacking playstyle, you would need to collect from your Pokémon at least once a week.
Do we have information about energy during sneaky snacking?
According to Raenonx it is 2.2x during sleep. It is scaled according to your energy for wake time.
@@Bropeningsoh wow... So NOT using the app once sleep starts with Pokemon Go Plus + is far better.
Edited for typo.