Only wish TH-cam and this video had been around years ago as it would have saved me a lot of faffing about trying to attach the backing to the reel. Buy that man Rob a beer or three.....he deserves it for his clear instruction. Great stuff.
massive thanks as i'm in the process of buying my first fly setup and looking for instructional vids and along comes Graham and Mike with another awesome vid coupled with Mikes casting and trout catches i watched last night i'm now even more keen to get going. Thanks guys.
Rob Waddington shows you how to attach your fly line and backing to your fly reel. It's back to basics and really helpful for those who are looking at getting into fly fishing! #flyfishing #fishing #beginners #awesome #howto #video #youtube
I thoroughly enjoyed this, very informative. I was a bit reluctant, concerning relevancy, as a Southern California angler subscribing to a fishing channel based in the UK but you guys are great. Thank you for taking the time and sharing your knowledge with all of us.
tekkitguy2001 That's because the videos haven't been made public yet ;) They will be public tonight at 5pm and 7pm and will be available to watch then. -Mike
Great info guys. I find fluoro great for nymphing but sucks for dry fly.also I tye a profection loop in the leader it makes changing leaders a snap. Keep on fishin.
Hi Cooper, for dries you need either a) copolymer straight through (make sure you degrease with fullers earth) which sinks very slowly b) Keep the Fluoro but keep casting when it sinks or, as I do c) 10' of mono, then 12'18" fluoro. On Rutland the water is gin clear and fluoro really helps. Rob
Thanks John, we already have a few episodes coming up with Rob! And we have done a few with him already, check out our fly fishing playlist and look for some of the fly fishing episodes on reservoirs
great info shared here. I am liking the fly fishing videos, you should try for a pike on the fly, although its pretty tough to beat a big brown trout. I was very impressed with the shot of the trout taking the dry fly in your other video, keep up the good work lads.
Graeme / Mike, Im a long time subscriber, one of the first 50 if i remember, Love all your videos but would it be possible to see you boys do a bit of salt water fly fishing? I think its one of the only things you havent covered yet, would love to see you having a go at the Pollock / Bass and showing us novices the difference between sinking, floating, intermediate, sink tips and all that good stuff. Keep the vids coming lads!
By far the most helpful reel setup video on TH-cam! Thanks a lot guys! But I have one quick question. How come you didn't use a tapered leader on the fly line? Do you have to use a tapered leader? Or is it ok to use a same diameter line all the way down?
It's a British reservoir thing, we don't use tapered leaders, too many knots and they're not needed. They are usually too short, too thick and not made of fluorocarbon. I do use tapered mono leaders when dry fly fishing for Atlantic salmon in Russia or Eastern Canada to help turnover into a wind. Our trout on Rutland are really spooky so straight through Fluoro is best, 8lb bs minimum, all the way. With droppers (3 turn water knot), the leader could be as long as 20+ feet. For dries and floating fry, I use 10feet of mono with 18" of Fluoro by the fly, keeps it up and still the fish won't see it. Regards Rob www.rutlandwaterflyfishing.co.uk
Certainly Jack yes. I tend to change, amend, discard (safely) the leader very often so don't bother with a loop to loop connection, 1 knot too many sometimes. But you're fine to do that, many people do.
Great video, very informative. I've watched 5 or 6 videos on how to tie a perfection loop and I've never been able to, I do believe this may be the best instructional video on how to tie one
do you ever use tippet rings? I started using them and they work great you save alot of leaders. I wasn't to crazy about trying them but they work great
Hi Graeme and Mike, a while back on facebook you asked for questions relating to sharks for a q&a. Was wondering if there will be a video on it? seeing as this week is shark week, it would suit perfectly. Keep up the good work
Hi, yes we still need to do that! Unfortunately we won't be able to get it done in time for shark week which is a shame but we're doing a lot of filming lately. Possibly september time so keep an eye out!
Hi could you do a video of fishing brown trout in rivers with small soft plastics like 1-4 grams and suggest some colors to use , but anyway great job on the videos, keep them coming!
Is there any reason not to mount the reel to the butt section of the rod while winding on the backing and the line? Seems it would help support the reel while filling it.
PlaneNose makes the whole process of fly fishing pointless. just use a regular spinning rod. the weight is carried through the whole of the line you're casting, not a tiny piece of lead at the end. I promise if it casts at all it won't be worth a shit. you can fly fish on the cheap no doubt (I have a less than a hundred dollar rod and reel combo) but you're crazy if you think you won't spend a good bit more on a fly fishing outfit vs regular fishing. spend the money on actual fly line of reasonable quality. 10000000 times better than regular line and a sinker
I call tippet and leader the same sort of thing. Its the nylon you tie the flyline to. I think tippet is an American term which would be the breaking strain of the nylon at the point it is tied to the fly(it might be tapered).Leader I always feel is a uniform length of nylon from flyline to fly. Average I think would be about 10 feet,though in certain circumstances some anglers use much longer.
Hi, I am totally new to fly fishing. Do I (necessary) have to have Backing line? If I have 100 yards of fly line plus the leader; why do I need the backing line? With the 100 yards of fly line; I am never going to get to the backing line. Or do I need to cut the fly line? Does the fly line needs to be only a few yards long? Please help.
100 yards of flyline is a lot.They generally are only in 30 yards coils,so I guess you should be alright and not need any backing....unless you are after Bonefish or Permit,in which case you will
TAFishing I'm sorry, it is 100 feet. but that was my question; if the flyline is long enough I don't need any backing, unless I'm fishing on salt water, which I am not. I like to go camping alot and I am planning to add a little survival fishing, that all.
Like many comments before when they are telling you you've been on a few videos asking the same question put backing on your reel it will fill it up and check your reel for how much fly line you will need to put on
+Tony caruso . Hi Tony, I fish here on Rutland Water, England for trout and believe me, a 3-4 pound grown on Rutland rainbow or brown can easily rip 50 yards of line of its first run. Sometimes more. I'm often glad I have a lot of backing on the reel. All the best. rob
To me it looks as if you're winding the line from the spool onto your reel with reverse wraps. When the line comes off the spool over the top and away from you, shouldn't it go onto the reel over the top and down the back of the reel spool? Or am I completely out to an extended lunch??
Hi bobno, the usual way for a right hander is to wind with the left hand anticlockwise putting the line down the underneath side of the reel onto the spool and around the back. So you have a loop you can pull off the reel with your left hand when casting, normal way. See 8 mins 30 it goes on the reel underneath all the best Rob
Indeed, the reel retrieves from the bottom no matter which hand you use. However, I was taught to keep the spools identical so for instance your line's coming off the new spool at the bottom and it's going on the reel at the bottom - to ensure that the line's memory matches up with the reel. In this vid you are doing it the opposite. Scratching me head.
+Ltk Knuckleball Yes,it can be just normal line.Or you can buy special tapered leaders from your tackle shop if the sell fly fishing gear.Tapered leaders usually cast and straighten out a bit better.I just use normal line though.
+Jack Rogers The leader. The tippet is generally at the end where the lightest breaking strain is. Confusing I know.Leader is usually the British term.Tippet if more American. Unless someone knows different that's how I have always viewed it.
In the States a tippet refers to both the thinnest part of a tapered leader and the equally-thin line you can add to the end of your leader. This enables you to restore lost length from breaks or multiple re-ties or quickly change length or weight to perfectly match the conditions. You could lighten up for spooky fish and beef it up for heavy hitters.
the bit that attaches to the backing should be long and thin, usually 60 feet of thin stuff. The other end to tie the leader onto starts thin and gets thick after a couple of yards, usually about 30 feet of thick stuff
Always... ALWAYS firmly attach the backing to the reel. Don't half arse it thinking you will never use up all the backing. Why?... because if the reel drops into deep water and you have to retrieve it by pulling on the line, you are relying on the backing being attached to the reel to finally lift it out. Don't ask me how I know !!!
I want to get started in fly fishing but I feel like if you break your line you're gonna be spending the next little bit to get going again. seems like a lot of work compared to normal fishing
I was lucky enough to go fly fishing for my first time in Bozeman MT a few months ago and if your a beginning fishermen it will take more time but if you're experienced, it takes the same amount.
Only wish TH-cam and this video had been around years ago as it would have saved me a lot of faffing about trying to attach the backing to the reel. Buy that man Rob a beer or three.....he deserves it for his clear instruction. Great stuff.
He is a great instructor, we have done a number of videos with him which will be uploaded over the next few weeks so keep an eye out!
This has to be the greatest instructional video I've ever seen, for sure will come back to this when I buy a fly set up!
massive thanks as i'm in the process of buying my first fly setup and looking for instructional vids and along comes Graham and Mike with another awesome vid coupled with Mikes casting and trout catches i watched last night i'm now even more keen to get going. Thanks guys.
Another quality video thanks Robb waddington fantastic teacher his lessons are pure magic got me casting within 30 minures absolute Gentleman ALIEN
He was a great teacher, nice and slow and explained clearly
Great video!!
I'm just getting started with fly fishing.
Thanks so much.
I've seen and used several different techniques to rig a reel. The way you do it is quite nice! Great vids!
Rob Waddington shows you how to attach your fly line and backing to your fly reel. It's back to basics and really helpful for those who are looking at getting into fly fishing!
#flyfishing #fishing #beginners #awesome #howto #video #youtube
I thoroughly enjoyed this, very informative. I was a bit reluctant, concerning relevancy, as a Southern California angler subscribing to a fishing channel based in the UK but you guys are great. Thank you for taking the time and sharing your knowledge with all of us.
Hi Robert, we're glad you like the video. Please come back to the channel tonight 7pm (UK time) as Rob will be tying some pretty awesome flies!
TAFishing when i click on the playlist for the fly tying it says the videos are private?
tekkitguy2001 That's because the videos haven't been made public yet ;) They will be public tonight at 5pm and 7pm and will be available to watch then.
-Mike
TAFishing oh. haha thanks. love your videos by the way.
Just started flyfishing ta videos cleared the mist away on casting and all the basics. great
Great video! Your enthusiasm and smile are a delight. Thanks
And I must say Rob, you are sooo lucky having Rutland Weekend Television as your TV channel there. Nice one.
Many thanks for this video, as I have just bought my first fly rod and reel. I gleaned a lot of useful information from this.
one of the best videos i have seen thank you
Great info guys. I find fluoro great for nymphing but sucks for dry fly.also I tye a profection loop in the leader it makes changing leaders a snap. Keep on fishin.
Hi Cooper, for dries you need either a) copolymer straight through (make sure you degrease with fullers earth) which sinks very slowly b) Keep the Fluoro but keep casting when it sinks or, as I do c) 10' of mono, then 12'18" fluoro. On Rutland the water is gin clear and fluoro really helps. Rob
Thanks for the video. I'm just getting started and you've been a great help!
great vid easy to follow.how about a series for beginners with this guy
Thanks John, we already have a few episodes coming up with Rob! And we have done a few with him already, check out our fly fishing playlist and look for some of the fly fishing episodes on reservoirs
:-) dare you try wrasse on the fly
great info shared here. I am liking the fly fishing videos, you should try for a pike on the fly, although its pretty tough to beat a big brown trout. I was very impressed with the shot of the trout taking the dry fly in your other video, keep up the good work lads.
We have good Pike fly fishing on Rutland Water, see www.rutlandwaterflyfishing.co.uk Regards Rob
Thank you much, great,I’m beginner and your video very simple and easy to do , I be using your way.
new to fly fishing . great video you rock
Graeme / Mike, Im a long time subscriber, one of the first 50 if i remember, Love all your videos but would it be possible to see you boys do a bit of salt water fly fishing? I think its one of the only things you havent covered yet, would love to see you having a go at the Pollock / Bass and showing us novices the difference between sinking, floating, intermediate, sink tips and all that good stuff. Keep the vids coming lads!
We will do our best! Very busy at the moment but we will try do do one
By far the most helpful reel setup video on TH-cam! Thanks a lot guys! But I have one quick question. How come you didn't use a tapered leader on the fly line? Do you have to use a tapered leader? Or is it ok to use a same diameter line all the way down?
It's a British reservoir thing, we don't use tapered leaders, too many knots and they're not needed. They are usually too short, too thick and not made of fluorocarbon. I do use tapered mono leaders when dry fly fishing for Atlantic salmon in Russia or Eastern Canada to help turnover into a wind.
Our trout on Rutland are really spooky so straight through Fluoro is best, 8lb bs minimum, all the way. With droppers (3 turn water knot), the leader could be as long as 20+ feet. For dries and floating fry, I use 10feet of mono with 18" of Fluoro by the fly, keeps it up and still the fish won't see it. Regards Rob www.rutlandwaterflyfishing.co.uk
Very good video!
Just done this technique it's pretty strong thanks
Thanks for the helpful video, could you use a loop to loop connection for the fly line to leader?
Certainly Jack yes. I tend to change, amend, discard (safely) the leader very often so don't bother with a loop to loop connection, 1 knot too many sometimes. But you're fine to do that, many people do.
Very good Thanks. Steve
Really informative video I need to get into fly fishing more
Thanks for the info. Best I have found.
Great video, very informative. I've watched 5 or 6 videos on how to tie a perfection loop and I've never been able to, I do believe this may be the best instructional video on how to tie one
perfect, thanks... the trick to peel off the plastic from the line is useful...
awesome video!
Nice very helpfully totally awsome!!!!!
Thanks, glad you liked it!
Still my go to video for loading a fly reel
thanks they helped me a lot
bardzo prosty sposób i bardzo skuteczny ..Super ok.
do you ever use tippet rings? I started using them and they work great you save alot of leaders. I wasn't to crazy about trying them but they work great
Hi Graeme and Mike, a while back on facebook you asked for questions relating to sharks for a q&a. Was wondering if there will be a video on it? seeing as this week is shark week, it would suit perfectly. Keep up the good work
Hi, yes we still need to do that! Unfortunately we won't be able to get it done in time for shark week which is a shame but we're doing a lot of filming lately. Possibly september time so keep an eye out!
Great ! Ty
have you tried float fishing with a centerpin? i have just got mine and its awesome
Hi could you do a video of fishing brown trout in rivers with small soft plastics like 1-4 grams and suggest some colors to use , but anyway great job on the videos, keep them coming!
FIRST! (Not to be a pain, just had to do it!) Anyway great stuff!
Is there any reason not to mount the reel to the butt section of the rod while winding on the backing and the line? Seems it would help support the reel while filling it.
Quick question why use a braided loop on one end and perfection on the other? Couldn't I use the perfection on both ends? Tia.
You want it to be as seem less as possible so you can reel the connection through your rod without the knots catching on the guides
Nice job Rob! by the way what if i used a normal fishing line and NOT a fly line on the fly reel?
You need the weight of a flyline to cast out the fly.Normal fishing line would not work.
Even with using a sinker?
PlaneNose makes the whole process of fly fishing pointless. just use a regular spinning rod. the weight is carried through the whole of the line you're casting, not a tiny piece of lead at the end. I promise if it casts at all it won't be worth a shit. you can fly fish on the cheap no doubt (I have a less than a hundred dollar rod and reel combo) but you're crazy if you think you won't spend a good bit more on a fly fishing outfit vs regular fishing. spend the money on actual fly line of reasonable quality. 10000000 times better than regular line and a sinker
I'm just starting fishing and can't seem to find the right rod what would you recommend for both sea and fresh water fishing?
Thanks that really helped me get started
Do I need tippet also, or can i just use leader?
I call tippet and leader the same sort of thing. Its the nylon you tie the flyline to. I think tippet is an American term which would be the breaking strain of the nylon at the point it is tied to the fly(it might be tapered).Leader I always feel is a uniform length of nylon from flyline to fly. Average I think would be about 10 feet,though in certain circumstances some anglers use much longer.
when attaching the braided loop to the fly line make a diagonal cut to the fly line it slots in the braided loop much easier
What reel where you showing int he video? thanks
rex jonhdeer kastking kiboku. Looks like the 9/10
Hi,
I am totally new to fly fishing. Do I (necessary) have to have Backing line? If I have 100 yards of fly line plus the leader; why do I need the backing line? With the 100 yards of fly line; I am never going to get to the backing line. Or do I need to cut the fly line? Does the fly line needs to be only a few yards long? Please help.
100 yards of flyline is a lot.They generally are only in 30 yards coils,so I guess you should be alright and not need any backing....unless you are after Bonefish or Permit,in which case you will
TAFishing I'm sorry, it is 100 feet. but that was my question; if the flyline is long enough I don't need any backing, unless I'm fishing on salt water, which I am not. I like to go camping alot and I am planning to add a little survival fishing, that all.
Like many comments before when they are telling you you've been on a few videos asking the same question put backing on your reel it will fill it up and check your reel for how much fly line you will need to put on
+Tony caruso . Hi Tony, I fish here on Rutland Water, England for trout and believe me, a 3-4 pound grown on Rutland rainbow or brown can easily rip 50 yards of line of its first run. Sometimes more. I'm often glad I have a lot of backing on the reel. All the best. rob
Rob Waddington Thanks
To me it looks as if you're winding the line from the spool onto your reel with reverse wraps. When the line comes off the spool over the top and away from you, shouldn't it go onto the reel over the top and down the back of the reel spool? Or am I completely out to an extended lunch??
Hi bobno, the usual way for a right hander is to wind with the left hand anticlockwise putting the line down the underneath side of the reel onto the spool and around the back. So you have a loop you can pull off the reel with your left hand when casting, normal way. See 8 mins 30 it goes on the reel underneath all the best Rob
Indeed, the reel retrieves from the bottom no matter which hand you use. However, I was taught to keep the spools identical so for instance your line's coming off the new spool at the bottom and it's going on the reel at the bottom - to ensure that the line's memory matches up with the reel. In this vid you are doing it the opposite. Scratching me head.
What's the length of the fluorocarbon
I use just over the length of the rod ,say around 10/11 ft of leader.
now I know where to go when I have questions
A lot of manipulations, I use a braided loop on each side of fly line. It's easier to change the fly lines
Is leader just normal line?
+Ltk Knuckleball Yes,it can be just normal line.Or you can buy special tapered leaders from your tackle shop if the sell fly fishing gear.Tapered leaders usually cast and straighten out a bit better.I just use normal line though.
So good how much
Can someone please explain to me what comes after the fly line! Is it the tippet the leader or both of them. I can't find a clear answer anywhere!
+Jack Rogers The leader. The tippet is generally at the end where the lightest breaking strain is. Confusing I know.Leader is usually the British term.Tippet if more American. Unless someone knows different that's how I have always viewed it.
In the States a tippet refers to both the thinnest part of a tapered leader and the equally-thin line you can add to the end of your leader. This enables you to restore lost length from breaks or multiple re-ties or quickly change length or weight to perfectly match the conditions. You could lighten up for spooky fish and beef it up for heavy hitters.
The name of the first knot is the arbor knot
Sir I m beginner will you please tell me fly fishing need weight in fast moving water...
umad fayaz In fast moving water you do not need extra weight. Extra line weight is more for if it is very windy.
I have lots of questions
what reel is he using?
Fly Fishing The Southeast kastking kobuk-9/10
Why not use a nail not to fix line to backing, the professional way and a hell of a lot easier to do.
kevin walters Yeah I use the nail knot to tie my leader and my fly line
I'm sorry to tell you when he spools his backing on he explains it correctly but does it backwards. It's basic rigging for cranes 101
How much backing do you put on
Aidan Milller same thing I was wondering. If you found out please lmk
what do i do if the line didnt come with a sticker
the bit that attaches to the backing should be long and thin, usually 60 feet of thin stuff. The other end to tie the leader onto starts thin and gets thick after a couple of yards, usually about 30 feet of thick stuff
thx for the help
but flocarbon sink in water
Always... ALWAYS firmly attach the backing to the reel. Don't half arse it thinking you will never use up all the backing. Why?... because if the reel drops into deep water and you have to retrieve it by pulling on the line, you are relying on the backing being attached to the reel to finally lift it out. Don't ask me how I know !!!
I want to get started in fly fishing but I feel like if you break your line you're gonna be spending the next little bit to get going again. seems like a lot of work compared to normal fishing
TBG's S2000 not really, the thing to atach the leader is not really use full
I was lucky enough to go fly fishing for my first time in Bozeman MT a few months ago and if your a beginning fishermen it will take more time but if you're experienced, it takes the same amount.