Zimbabwe: A giant facing economic collapse? - BBC HARDtalk, On the Road (2019)
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- Stephen Sackur is in Zimbabwe. For so many years, this country was defined by Robert Mugabe and the independence struggle. When Zimbabwe's military pushed Robert Mugabe out of power two years ago, there was hope of an end to the era of misrule and corruption. Arguably, things are worse. Amid a currency crisis, fuel imports have been cut; no jobs and soaring inflation is a recipe for wholesale desperation, as millions of Zimbabweans go to bed hungry, dependent on hand-outs for survival. This country is on the brink of catastrophe - who or what will save it?
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A giant facing collapse?You are late to the party.The economy collapsed more than 20 years ago.
Absolutely right, 30-40 yrs ago!
Next hiv tb ebola.hunger watch south africa ciral supose to help
I remember it was 2008 when it happened cause I remember the billion dallor bills and trillions as a kid
@@efffyzombie2979 now the US is doing the same with platinum coins worth a trillion
When you're producing a quadrillion dollar note . . .
I remember when I was a billionaire in Zim then I upgraded to a trillionare now I'm a brokenaire
That sounds like a lot of hot air.The facts of settling in the 'modern' world,the Americans and Canadians gave newcomers the land and means to settle on unoccupied lands usually in far distant areas ,recognised by their settlement acts.Australian and New Zealanders probably received help too.What happened in South Africa was no different from many other countries.There was no stealing of land.Settlers in many countries benefitted and so did the improved areas by human occupation.
🙄🤧😷Good analogy.
@@kevincopeland8787 their talking about inflation. It's a joke. What are YOU😂 talking about
@@youcannotspeaktomeanyhow OOOOHHHH A N
What ah joke !
I lived in Rhodesia and Zims 70's and 80's.Occasionally we had to que for petrol,we had droughts, economic sanctions,and war, I don't remember the populus being in such dire straits,it's a bloody shame
I feel really bad for people like you and your families. You lads built this country and made it great, against all odds, but with Mugabe and ZANU it all went down the gutter. Where do you live now, if I may ask?
@@queenapryllm8454 Blame the native population too, they were not innocent or ignorant.
these guys do not understand the question. As doctors what does their conscious tell them when people die while they have decided not to work and save lives. youth and present generation have no sense of responsibility to their country. As it appears Zimbabweans' inclination is survival of the fittest ...and even greed. Many lives were sacrificed to liberate Zimbabwe. People fought in the bush without overtime and died. As soon as they got their independence many Zimbabweans became pompous busy undermining neighboring countries and showing off. During a trip to Zimbabwe in the 80s our softball team had to tolerate abuse and Batswana were regularly told by Zimbabwe officials how stupid Batswana were, Now young doctors are busy looking for the quickest way out of their counry and as usual to look for greener pastures to earn money. Each Zim generation has had its own challenges...Ian Smith's generation, Mugabe's generation and now Munangagwa's. Zimbabweans,although they work hard, have a strong sense of entitlement and are not taking complete ownership over their affairs... Its always has to be someone who is messing up their country. No nation in Southern Africa seems to be as mobile as Zimbabweans and it is getting rather tiring. Borders are fixed and the world is not getting an bigger. Zimbabweans must learn to keep their house clean and in order, stay put and fix up their environment.
@@billychiepe3991 Some very good points... like a person with a drinking problem who refuses to admit his problem, Zimbabwe will only succeed when the citizens and those in positions of power start admitting its their fault and not always somebody or something else! 🤔
@@billychiepe3991 Thank you for that comment, it's fair and honest
Zimbabwe used to be one of the wealthiest nations in Africa. It was called "the breadbasket of Africa". I wonder what caused the change?
The conquest of bread?
I know exactly where you are coming from lol.
Marxism destroyed Zimbabwe, just like it does everywhere it's tried.
Zimbabwe haha..you mean RHODESIA. ... check your facts.
Brian Merrill ...incompetent driver delivering bread basket keeps steering into lamppost n buildings?
From the bread basket of africa to this in under 40 years.
Nefertari Meritmut Nah mate... this is a communist utopia!! 🤣🤣
Rhodesia WAS Great!
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@@bingola45 SO THEY BROUGHT SANCTIONS FOR THE BLACK RULE TO BE WORSE AND RHODESIA TO BE GREAT. ISNT IT?
@@bingola45 I LIKE THE LAST STATEMENT BY T H E -M I N I S T E R. ''HOW TARGETED ARE THE ECONOMIC SANCTIONS ON ZIMBABWE?'''
Its insane to imagine that a Dr in Zimbabwe earns $4 a day= $84 a month..
I only need to draw two commissions of cartoon characters to get that much - and it'll took me just three days to make it. D: Hell working in animation where I live yields a higher income than what a doctor in Zimbabwe does. Hell some thots in e-streams does better by just showing their ass and pussy! D:
I mean that is just... kind of sad and bad.
not the doctors but because of the sanctions an average iranian working class erans that much .
its a sad reality how a handful of people can crush nations.
At the height of inflation, bag of sugar was marked at 21$ at the grocery store. This reporter tried to guilt those poor doctors.
@@ceeceeobh2707 -- I don't think he was guilting them, but I see what you're saying. I think he wanted to show us viewers that they did all that schooling and have all that knowledge, but because they cannot even afford to pay for transport they have no choice but to refuse to work. To me, it was clear that is not what they really want, but they can't even afford to get to work, let alone clothing, shoes, lunch etc.
Being a Zimbabwean and without links to Zanu Pf is a curse 😢😢😢
I see it a as a blessing not to have links 🙏
@@truezladye1893
for a majority of zimbabweans, no links = no opportunity for a good life
@@solrhopalocera5704 you are right, especially in the rural areas with regards to food aid etc
@Nplos Le No.No difference.Exactly the same.
God bless Zimbabwe love from Qatar 😍😍
My last job, just before I left in 1980, was at that very hospital. It was then 'the' place in the world to study tropical medicine and was a pet project of the then prime Minister, Ian Douglas Smith. Some people even claimed it was one of the finest hospitals in the Southern Hemisphere. The politicians of this world have a lot to answer for...
I was born at that hospital.
They messed up bad and now they’re paying for it.
@@fubarjenkins7438 Did you mean: They (politicians) messed (the country) up badly, and now they (the people) continue to suffer for it.
@@grahamt5924 So you were a Rhodesian. Makes sense now.
@@mwanikimwaniki6801 what makes sense.
What's sad is that this interview was done years ago. Today two years later nothing has changed . Infact things are considerably eorse
The same is happening in South Africa and we are all watching...... Time to stand up guys!!!
We all know the truth.....now the media stand one side as if they were never a part of all this.....africa jokes
The problem they have is blacks in charge!
@@JohnSmith-lv3vf I wonder why it is a problem to be in charge in your own country?
@@JohnSmith-lv3vf but...they want it like this.Rather die in charge of corrupt,black leaders.....than living good and healthy...with a white leader.Never learn.🥴
@@Tunawesmake why then cry for food and better housing,etc?
My neighbour lived in Zimbabwe for many years and, in her words, "Saw it turn from a beautiful country into a shit hole." Once very productive farms virtually turned to jungle again after Mugabe stipped ownership from the white farmers and gave the land to the indiginous population. With no machinery to work the land those people gave up looking after it.
It’s happening right now in South Africa. It took 367 years to build South Africa into a First World country. It has taken just 25 years for a corrupt and incompetent ANC Government to destroy it. The Bantu Nguni people of South Africa are unable to maintain, let alone build anything. All they can do is to loot, burn and destroy. They couldn’t even invent the wheel.
They had all the machinery. When they seized the farms, they seized everything with them. The white farmers were either killed or chased, escaping only with their lives. The "war veterans" took it it all and destroyed it, and the whole country as well.
@Cobra Commander It also depend on the crop and country environment, as most Asian countries have very rich soils and use crops that already can't or ain't being worked by machines. Africa produce stuff like wheat, which is hard to do on large scale in a harsh environment. And add to it they population have been raised on that steady income of crops, when it's gone within a year stuff goes down hill fast.
@@-JustHuman- Zimbabwe soil is so rich you literally plant a stick and it will start to grow
@ anonymous - have you heard of the term " To EVOLVE " I doubt it. BUT GUESS any EXCUSE is better than NONE ne' - the VICTIM VIRUS is actually WORSE then COVID.
The problem Zimbabwe has can be traced back to the War for independence. Rhodesia was ran by competent people who built and maintained an entire infrastructure of industry and ingenuity, which partially still stands today. They suffered international sanctions and fought communist backed "freedom fighters" for nearly 2 decades and still managed to feed their country. Then they were forced to give all that responsibility to someone who could never accomplish the same result on the same land if they had to start again. Then they kick out the farmer who cultivated the land that fed the country. They wanted complete freedom, so reap what you sown!
M a Zimbabwean on the other hand you are right then on the other you are wrong because not everyone wanted the whites to leave it was only a handful of people in power.
Southern Africa. So breathtakingly beautiful. What memories of a wonderful childhood and 39 years there. No words strong enough can explain my absolute sadness, fustration, and hopelessness at the region since those times. RIP.
From what it was to what it was.
Zimbabwe was in chaos fr the past 40 yrs
..no change disgrace and shame and nw put Sa into all ther garbagge bringing Sa with ther shit..
Southern Africa is way better than it was back in those racist days
@@mohammadshabih5293 then go there now... Yet Arabs / Indians like you only flocked there when whites ruled, go figure...
@@mohammadshabih5293 Brain injury? Also tribalism is the level below racism. The only place left that is any good is Cape Town. Take a guess who runs that.
As a Zimbabwean I can tell you that the problem of Zimbabwe has been the 40 years of extreme bad leadership and the tragic failure of Zanu pf, the cancer of Zimbabwe.
That's established then. Stop obsessing over it and get on with what's left of your life. The Africans rejected you. Get over it. After all you have so much to look forward to in your old age in europe, just speak to the many spirits of those abandoned to die in care homes during this covid 19 pandemic.
Communism, that's the problem.
What policies did they do to kill the economy?
Problem is silence of the people
@@zwelakhezwane4128 silence of good people gives bad people opportunity to destroy
A view from Canada. Like many African nations, Zimbabwe has become extremely corrupt and dictatorial since gaining independence. The people have suffered, and continue to suffer. This leads one to ponder if these countries were in fact better off as colonies.
Better for white people only
Excuses,excuses, excuses, ALWAYS EXCUSES!!!!! Sad!!!
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@@marigoldbeam5475 Why is this relevant? Every country has drug addicts. What's that got to do with rampant government corruption leading to the collapse of an entire country? 🤣🤦♂️
Rick Exactly my point always pulling the blame card. Its getting a bit old now
The minister is already rich in 2years....so all he's saying now is nonsense because he's getting enough for his family.... Zimbabwe needs to be saved, ZANU PF is full of corruption
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"We did it Patrick, we saved Rhodesia!"
You should have asked him a very important question if doctors are getting $4 a day how much I’d he getting paid as a minister
king99maximus his official wage is not the issue it is his unofficial (corruption, theft...) that probably is the biggest issue.
John L. Zimbabwe needs to change its politics and adopt that of the United States of America anyone can run for president without being a party leader. And also politics should not be a career or something that is passed on to family members. The president of the country the ministers and the rest, all should only be allowed to be in the office for 2 teams. this way the other people who have great ideas can also have a say in the meters of the country
He would probably deflect the question like he does every time
So, exactly how many times does a country collapse, and then come back for another one?
The hamster wheel of Gubberment.
The answer is Zimbabwe times
I think its an economy thats like falling down a flight of stairs. Until all the resources have been stolen and the people stop believing in wishful thinking. There is really no hope for any country. Most of not all countries are in the slow creep to poverty. Zim is just a for shadow to global political ideologies. Welcome to animal farm everyone.
It's on about the 5th collapse, i'd say.
My family back home reckon, the corruption in Zim is so ingrained in to the psyche of branches of the state, no single person will be able to save the country. The entire structure will need to be purged and rebuilt.
Just yesterday he sent me a pic of hospital directors getting new Land-rovers and other government officials paying themselves "covid allowances". This is right after some of the aid money was disbursed.
As often as US economy?
I am from Sri Lanka. We are going through Zimbabwe Nightmare right now.
Nation building in Africa it's a failure because their politicians are more worried about helping themselves.
also yiu know the whole vicious colonialism thing
@Wsy NicK Trump is so high IQ right?
@@Grandfinal43 Yawn donkeys years ago.
@@Grandfinal43 Doing better than you isn't he?
@Ozzy Mandias About bloody time.
This Doctors mean well. I understand where they are coming from, All Love and Respect from South Africa🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
I understand as well. Ghana has announced the opening of several hospitals next year. Maybe, they will hire these African doctors and other who are under utilized and appreciated.
Blessing Kamogelo So hard to watch this. Nobody deserves to starve, no matter the color of their skin-and truly hope South Africa keeps as many thieves out of government as they can.
So sad, that minister is disgusting. I don’t blame them for not working, they can’t afford to. What a waste.
The Minister is very eloquent - explains things well. Shame it all falls to pieces outside the studio 😂😂
The usual bullshit. Talk talk talk - no execution.
The problem with this African Liberation leaders tend to forget what's is their mandate and look after each other . Service delivery is out of the windows once in power. I think DEMOCRACY isn't meant for Africa instead we ought to focus on : Resource Base economy '' base on people performance. Politics is a talking game. - Period.
@@setumomahakoe7791 the African liberation movements were funded by the USSR and China no wonder democracy was never at the front of their minds. I still think they should adopt the Chinese model except that requires competence and skill and the outright execution of failed leaders. The only way you’re clearing out the incompetent corrupt individuals from government is to rebuild auschwitz and run the trains day and night.
“Corruption issues, I’ll put that aside”...that’s the biggest issues though so cut the bullcrap.
천사 Angel International sanctions have the power to cripple any economy (as is happening in Zimbabwe) but yes corruption on top of sanctions !!!
@@luyandachamane2093 but why was sanctions put in place ? what was the reason ? was the sanctions not because of the corruption ?
Luyanda Chamane Cuba has been under embargo and sanctions for over 60 years and yet they can look after their people very well. Africans are incapable of doing the same. All they do well is keep multiplying.
@@fauxmanchu8094 Cuba looks after members of the Communist party very well to bad most of the people are not allowed to be members of the communist party, people don't risk being swept out to sea and being eaten by sharks if everything at home is peachy.
Barskor1 ...wrong.....the people there all get great free healthcare.....but in the USA, the world richest country, people get no such thing.
"Conscience doesn't pay bills" you can never be more real about that
From the "Breadbasket of Africa " to" basket case" in 30 years coinciding with Mugabes rule. No need to say more!
Imagine if we had journalism like this in the states.
THIS IS CNN!!!
PBS
I am a former commercial pilot and I knew well all Southern Africa including Zimbabwe when it was named Rhodesia and Ian Smith was its prime minister. Among UDI created problems, the vicious attacks of Mugabe and his gang of terrorists, Rhodesia was a breadbasket, with a very well balanced and thriving economy. Many times I stayed at the Monomatapa Hotel and we could cross a sparking clean Salisbury without seeing a piece of paper on the streets...
Then came the terrorists hoping to do a lot better and Rhodesia became Zimbabwe...
And like in the Congo, Angola, Mozambique and all the others countries before it became what President Trump calls a shit-hole country. None of the past lessons were headed... And now the very same process that led to the destruction of Rhodesia has started in South Africa.
First it was the black empowerment and stealing parts of the existing enterprises and now is the confiscation without compensation of the land, taken from those that are providing the source of hard cash that SA needs...
We just have to wait to see what the ANC is capable of in terms of destruction...
finally! a SANE person responds!
Entitled colonialists: you didn’t deserve to stay and rule a nation that you took by force from the natives. The black government is doing just as bad, doesn’t make your colonialism better. Understand that!!
Is this the price for a native man's freedom?
Or is it right to let Europeans manifest destiny like what happened in North America for their natives?
I feel Nelson Mandela would've had an answer for this question but sadly such leaders don't exist anymore.
Ario we had our kingdoms and were doing fine. We did not need you. You actually ruined our way of life. Such a silly excuse for colonialism. That’s why you’re so entitled i see. Shameful to live in 2020 with people like you
@@raphaeljasi5517 The history of the colonialists in South Africa, has been rewritten by people who's narrative is based on a big lie. The colonists did not steal land from the natives. There were no natives living there at the time, where the colonists built their first settlements. They recorded in detail, what happened in written word. Whereas the africans who live there now, came down from the north. They did not have a written language. Now the present day narrative is continuously being rewritten by the ANC and other useful idiots, to support and cloak their incompetence and and self centred industrial looting of the economy.
Look how happy they are in Zimbabwe, not.
I would not like to be remembered in history as the person who destroyed a country. Watch out Ramaphosa you are next.
It was thriving as Rodesia under Ian Smith.
Yes and what a great leader he was managing a country under sanctions and civil war and making sure everyone had FOOD
@@CHrisG-ol3ei Food that would only go to whites...
Rhodesia was the bread basket of Africa and prospered even when under sanctions. Now Zimbabwe is a basket case.
@@SmartRobot-wc2fb [Citation Needed]
OUT.OF.THE.BOX.ROBOT Bwana Sibu here. Were you ever in Rhodesia under Smith or in Zimbabwe under Mugabe? I was. We used to joke about going to Rhodesia to visit the Zimbabwe Ruins, and now we go to Zimbabwe to see the Rhodesian ruins. Cry the Beloved country.
So sad to see the country that was once known as the "bread basket of Africa" have people going hungry.The country's climate is capable of producing two crops a year and should be economically strong, exporting food, with the population enjoying a good life.
Because of corruption
They are starving, he says... No great sign of hunger in some scenes. Some of them even look obese
@@erikachannel1996 you forget the Great Betrayal.
Thank you for letting the world see what is going on within Zimbabwe
You reap what you sow. Simple
Big G from SA just like the whites reaped what the sowed right? At least the blacks have one problem sorted. On to the next one on the list, we still have a few, creating standards that work for us now, and working to meet them. These hardships are only helping to perfect our future expectations. Keep your eyes on this Africa.
@@newdawn775 u anti white racist 🖕
@@newdawn775 if they starve there won be a future..
@george langa im not in their affairs, i gave an opinion from the video which i watched, and if its an opinion you dont like, tough shit.
Black man on another black man.... African on Africa.... Mhandu ye munhu. Munhu.
Worst enemy of Africa is an African
And the worst enemy of mankind is ignorance and stupidity
Just wait till the Chinese move in. Worst enemy will be China
Sounds a lot like ChiCongo in America.
When was Zimbabwe a giant? Are you talkin about Rhodesia?
Yes and no one will acknowledge it was the Whites that they hate so much that made it a secure country.
@@hendrikasunqrout571 Yes, when it was Rhodesia. I lived in Harare in the mid 90s. Believe me, the local people would often tell me that they wished, hoped for the white colonial, Rhodesia government would return.
@@maximusgias7256 Yes, they used to say that to me as well in zambia, at least then they had jobs
@@hendrikasunqrout571 Ian Smith predicted this.
We as black ppl were poor in Rhodesia under whites. We are poor now under blacks. Nothing has changed.
I would say 23 years to be precise. By 1998 things were getting beyond rough. Piped water for months? It’s been years! Electricity has been going since 2002 it’s crazy! I feel for the Zimbabweans.
Now , the foreign media is play to the destruction of Africans country as always. Note that behind all this - UK ( Margarethe Thatcher and Tony Blair ) . This wasn't because of the late Mugabe BUT was PUSH to a corner for so long : Lancaster agreement 10 years and still '' sanction as well. What happened in Dr, Congo - Patrick Lumumba was assassinated , Thomas Sankara , Gaddhafi etc ...
Who is to gain for playing You tell me , why is African media not in EU countries USA China ???
Africa media please claim your place and deliver your mandate...Africa has waken up. .This propaganda must STOP now.
South Africa: we will take everything from the wealthy for ourselves. Including land! Everything for free!
World: look at what happened to Zim
South Africa: we are not Zimbabwe! It will be different this time!!
World: ok....
That's why the Black majority is starving in SA? They need Caucasian Farmers
im in Botswana, right next to south africa. what i realise is that it takes self education to realise socialism, i went to a business school and most people just pass through college just to get degrees, they dont entirely comprehend and internalise economic and political concepts. also with the addiction that materials in colleges are now marxist, they feel good face of socialism is easy to absorb for most people, and they never mature beyond that foolishness, the person will still think like that at 50. people dont read and tv news is not in the business of educating people, its sad. they look at me strange as a black person when i say white farmers should keep the land LOL. you dont get rich by taking from the rich, you get rich by ascending to the rich
Define 'World''?
@@crimsonite1524 you are the first person in a loooong time putting up a comment that make sence..
Thank you for that...you will agree..most comments comming from complete idiots.
eli soopu ----if only we could have borrowed the president of Botswana to run Zimbabwe for 30 years, if only if only ☹️😩😩😩
" We want our land "
Now you have it.
Someone must come and feed us.
Like really
😂
It's their land so why try to steal it?
This is what Wakanda would actually be like.
Wakanda shit is dis
But remember there's only remblance of Wakanda left because someone else build everything there +40 years ago
Wakanda was actually the Mali Empire and it was rich not because of alien rock but because of gold. They were very rich, richest men to ever live. The only difference is they had slaves... lots of slaves.
@@etiennen4136 Absolutely right.
@Cobra Commander the phrase "all African countries are shithole" is false
not all African nations are shithole, Rwanda Botswana and Namibia have low poverty rates and increasing development rates
these are the Africans nations that are not shithole
the demographics shows that other African nations are doing better than Zimbabwe.
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once again the people in Africa are doing something about it and they are developing thier nations.
Zimbabweans are a good people, they don’t deserve this.
Everything went downhill after dictator Mugabe took over and renamed Rhodesia "Zimbabwe"
Yeah good people who butchered and later threw out the white farmers yet were too inept to farm the land themselves. Screw those racists, let evolution take its course!
@@Sohave racist? Kicking out racist colonizers in their owned land who mistreated them?
@@novaangelica5096 "Racist colonizers" who turned Zimbabwe into Africas biggest food producer, when they literary murdered these "racists" and their children and confiscated their land they forgot to learn how to farm it first so the once well functioning agricultural sector collapsed within weeks. Go do a search on pictures from Zimbabwe and compare them to pictures of Rhodesia.
These white farmers they kicked out contributed more to their society than the third world migrants from Africa and the middle east we see in Europe, I wonder where your support for kicking those "racist colonizers" out?
@@Sohave yes but they discriminated them right? They look down at them and abused many of them , first go research some "violence in colonial rhodesia'
I really want to start by just thanking the team at BBC hardtalk and all the Zimbos who helped to bring out Will Smith (00:25) to speak out on this particular topic.thank you
How do you blame the white man for this?
As always
A mineral rich country were you just need to dig up to get rich but it's governed by blacks!!!
Sooo.. Let's just once again blame WHITE man for all the corruption and bad management and ask for billions in aid to the same white man they blame!
I can think of a way to blame the white man, if america hadn't wasted all its time failing to install governments in Asia and instead offered Rhodesia its support along with the other western colonies in Africa the western world could have kept a manufacturing base and Africa would be able to make use of its resources. what do you think?
@Audio They can't even make the guns they are killing each other with
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1st of all, why is the minister of environment and climate the one answering such economic questions? Its clear your boy isn't fit enough to answer such questions.
In the interview it's mentioned that before his term as minister of emvirement he was minister of industry and commerce. So he should have some knowledge.
Why the actual trademinister es not present, one might only speculate.
for an african country that barely feed itself, having a minister of environment and climate is nuts. This guy has to be the best snake oil salesman in the gov. Hence the chose for the interview.
Its really sad how he refers to some children going to bed hungry as an exaggeration.
They import 80% of their grain why don't they cultivate land to feed themselves ?They are jobless but don't want to work in agriculture ?
Answer actually goes back a while. Essentially after Muagabe took over following the fall of Rhodesia he forcefully removed farms from white farmers to give to black farmers as he thought it would be fair.
A good portion of the people who received the farms either couldn’t farm or simply had no interest in farming. So the farming production dropped insanely and it has yet to recover due to it
There is no security of tenure
Often they are legally unable to get the resources for seed crop, tools, and land. Any and all businesses seeking profit find it difficult to keep their heads above water.
neuralcircuit The cost of racism is high. The South in the U.S. was impoverished until 1960's when they were forced to end their legal racism, then Blacks in the South could make a full contribution to the economy and the expense of enforcing racism ended. Since then, the South has gotten wealthier.
@@raybod1775 The cost for civilizations not being racist is so high that they get destroyed. Western civilization is on that same path and if we are destroyed from within by you marxists and the third world crappy people you have invited in, then the whole world will fall into another dark age, one that we may never recover from. That is the real cost.
Keep voting for the Zanu PF guys. The definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing and somehow expect different results.
That's the same mistakes South African are doing with the ANC
Morons think Mugabe was better. He left the place a mess. It will take years to fix.
Ever heard of vote rigging? These people haven't voted for this party in ages.
@@martinjenkins5471 And likewise many South Africans think Zuma is a hero. Smh.
Zanu pf lost in 2008 , they rig
Only a time machine could save Zimbabwe. Long live Rhodesia!
40 years of socialism.
The man who coined the words dark continent if alive today should be awarded nobel price for foresighted
Good take.
Awful comment
A reminder on how greatful we ought to be with what we have
“I told you so” Ian Smith. ;)
Smith is hated in Britain and hated by the Zimbabweans
40 years on, I am going to say it. Smithy was right after all.
Harvey Smith racist
@@malvinchadzamira7197 So the truth makes him a racist? If he's a racist you are an idiot.
He knew the uncomfortable truths about Africa.
@@malvinchadzamira7197 "racist" has lost it's meaning and weight. It's overused. No one gives a shit anymore. You can call racist all you want, yet funny enough the LEAST racist race on the planet currently are whites, they harbor THE most of other races, they give THE most aid and help THE most in keeping peace and law. Not one WHITE country has kicked out blacks, yet in the last 50 years more than half of africa has done it. China just kicked out all blacks out of China. Same in middle east. So safe to say least racist race is whites, so harp on calling others racist yet you sit with the massive log in your own eye.
Kazy Kamakaze Top comment. 💯💯
RIP Sir Ian Smith. LESS WE FORGET. Spitfire Fighter Pilot: WW11
DAMN WELL SAID! as an american who descends form Pilgrims and Revolutionairies KISSINGER SOLD OUT SA AND RHODESIA!
A Man Among Men
matthew thomas ---yeah Sir Ian Smith went to heaven but Robert Mugabe went to hell with fire burning him every 5 mins
Great to get all these comments. He was not against black people. He just knew what would become of the country. I was glad to be part of the fight There. It’s my honour within myself.
Ian Smith was a New Zealander, now we are seeing refugees from there settling here.
Zimbabwe was a leading farming state in Africa when Mugabe in the interests of staying in power restored to racist policies of land grabbing without assessing the impact that would have on the Economic Welfare , and without alternative preparation for fallout .That move was the seed planted that has now matured into a tree . These are the full impacts of those actions , now being witnessed by the ordinary Zims . Infact without some remedial actions being taken now its probably going to get far worse before it improves if it does at all .
A country with such economic potential and impressive and kind people. Shame about the government.
@Mellivora Capensis So is Botswana and it's one of the fastest growing economies in the world.
Jesus the racism
the whole government is full of corruption
The evil in Africa it's leaders, politicians, corrupt governments and their heartless officials
Rhodesia was the perfect example that Zimbabwe was on a way to a first world country for all. Destroyed by the commies.
Zimbabwean politicians doesnt understand the meaning of competency at all honesty doesn't exist to them.
@@tracysimmons720 how many woman would 1- want the job of governing, 2- would display the exact qualities that are required to take Zimbabwe out of the hole, 3- have the mental fortitude to withstand the continuous attacks "smear piece, obstruction" from the element that want the status quo to continue 4- desire to change the way Zimbabwe. And this myth that man are only ones that are corrupt and woman are less corrupt is stupid, "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely".
The people voted for him. Everywhere, you get what you vote for. Speaking as a Canadian, whose citizens voted twice for our own crook! So let the Africans sort out their problems and let's concentrate on our own disasters.
When white farmers were expelled, it spelled the end.
That's the thing about black people in Zim and SA. The said they want their land back and whe they get it they build houses.
@@bango487 white and black people should have just shared the land and live together in peace & harmony.
@@twenty2183blax don't want that.
@@karensback the white people didn’t want sharing.
Anyways who are the rightful owners of the land, it’s the black people of Zim?
Look at Australia, the rightful owners are the Aborigines.
Do you think it’s possible for a black person to get land for free in United Kingdom, never.
The whites occupied Zim farms for free🤔taken from the rightful owners, blacks.
@@karensbackbecause whites were treating them as second class in their own lands.
I cried when I saw the images on the news of my fellow Zimbabweans happy at the acts of Munangagwa. He was the one in charge for years and Mr Mugabe was the face. Not right that we have gone so far in our traumatic disassociation and desperation for a better truth and existence. Please waking to your power.
The problem with this African Liberation leaders tend to forget what's is their mandate and look after each other . Service delivery is out of the windows once in power. I think DEMOCRACY isn't meant for Africa instead we ought to focus on : Resource Base economy '' base on people performance. Politics is a talking game. - Period.
Why are there so many children ? No money to feed them
@Karen Lang He asked a valid question.
Yeah he was counting and knows where every kid belongs to which family.
@Kit not contraceptive is as better as education
One word Muslim
@@newton18311 okay... All of Zimbabwe are Muslim?
It’s heartbreaking to see your home country become unrecognizable 💔🇿🇼
My mums from zimbabwe and I spent a lot of time there growing up and a lot of my family still live there. It’s a beautiful place and the people are lovely but I’m from Wales and a lot about zimbabwe bothers me. The mass poverty would bother me and I find that it’s always been corrupt and it’s a real shame because it’s beautiful with so much to offer and every time I go I always feel like I wanna stay. It’s such a shame
Too bad they can’t dig up the farmers they murdered 15 years ago and ask them how to run the farms. I used to think people want freedom and democracy. But you need food and shelter first and an education to even value anything else. They want mugabe back. Sounds like they need to be left alone to figure things out for themselves
this guy that hard talk is interviewing is like a snake. he avoids answering the question and changes the subject alot when asked a question. the interviewer should have given him a fake snake after the interview for dodging all the questions.
Sad to see, I have so many Zimbabwe friends and they are lovely people
Very nice and hard working people,
Unfortunately they made a huge mess of their country.
@@johannjacobs6401 Corruption and competency aside, sanctions have been ,for a while now, playing a significant role in ensuring that the country remains crippled. Take for instance people that do manage to leave Zimbabwe to work or study in a foreign country - they are unable to open bank accounts, set up their insurance or receive/ transfer money internationally simply because they are from a “ high risk country”. In other terms they are from a sanctioned country- no matter how “targeted“ those sanctions are.
Staying on the topic of targeted sanctions, The Industrial Development corporation (IDC) is one of those companies that are on the sanctions list. As a comparison, sanctioning The IDC would be like sanctioning P&G. The IDC has shares in major companies like Olivine and ZFC. These companies might not have been sanctioned directly but they are sure as hell included. And if I wasn’t clear enough before about how important these companies are to Zimbabwe’s economic growth, let me restate it, they are really f** important! The US didn’t just draw company names from a hat and sanction them, they intentionally hand picked the largest/ most impactful companies in the country then down played just how incapacitating their “targeted sanctions” are by calling them targeted and only focusing on how they are targeted on a few politicians.
I’ll leave a couple of links for you to see just exactly how Zimbabwe is being affected by these sanctions. As you’ll see , there’s a cause and effect relationship.
Do sanctions work?
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The state of Zimbabwean sanctions.
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It literally means nothing
They didn’t act lovely to the Rhodesians or the Boers.
@@americanozoomer9738 Why should they?
The trade barely was to Africa but for Europe, Black Rhodesians were treated like subservients in their own country. Why should they be happy?
I met quite a few black Zimbabweans when i lived in London. They told me what their older relatives have been saying for years. That Ian Smith should have been left alone because things were improving and he wasnt corrupt and that the western press lied a lot about the country. That Mugabe was evil and corrupt.
Precisely what any educated and honest Zimbabwean would say as opposed to what an ignorant, uninformed pc lefty commie supporter such as yourself believes.
@ Karen Lang ---The truth actually , because in London there is freedom of speech and you won’t get killed for it .
This is how Zimbabwe media programs should look like in terms of content and quality; ZBC take a cue.
Can you hear Ian Smith and white farmers laughing?
Ash Leo ---yes he is laughing loud and clear !! I told you so ha ha ha --I told you so but you the world wouldn’t listen !! One disaster after another !!
Can you hear Zimbabweans say they need Ian Smith and white farmers back?
No, actually they are crying, because a beautiful, inclusive country they worked so hard to create was utterly destroyed by ignorant, biased, empty, virtue signalling politicians in the UK and America.
Ian smith put the country first, not himself. Other leaders did not like that because it showed them up for their greed.
Mugabe showed himself to be a thief, and to this day, no Democratic country with a legal system will do business with a thief, or their successor.
Immigration crisis , karma is real
I can hear myself laughing
Make Zimbabwe Rhodesia Again
Too little too late --its all gone
Hurts to see my people in these conditions man over 30 years of suffering 😔😭 GOD BLESS ZIMBABWE 🙏🏾😭😭😭😭
"The only person recorded as saying ‘de-feat’ is marvellous is Robert Mugabe’s chiropodist."
The biggest problem with economies in Africa is that the governments forget that they are employees of the citizens and answerable to them. Citizens should stand on their rights of transparency and accountability of politicians.
Zimbabwe has alot of potential it just needs great leaders, you can even hear it in the way these "poor" people speak English almost fluently
SO sad
So true. Sadly for them.
My friend EVERY African country has potential and it ends there. . Just potential. We need to find a way of dealing with corrupt, looting, greedy and incompetent politicians and government officials.. we need to hang a few of these buggers for us to remove these shackles
It is this time they wasted learning english language that is cousing them trouble. They shd have used that time working. Chinese dont speak english yet the british et al are bowing before them
@@esl030 no, you need a mass aceptance of western thoughts and culture. Deomcracy and captialism are not the human nature. Without these two, no country can succeed
This is all of the UKs fault. You should have left Rhodesia as it was.
Thats an old excuse,corruption and racism in the form of land reform to the farmers has impoverished your country
@@sheldonsundy3432 oh please, during the days of Rhodesia the country would EXPORT food, they even had tecnhonoly and industry sector.
They should have left us
This reporter was a jerk. He was aggressively attacking the doctors. What does he expect of them., to do charity work? They can barely survive.
he was not attacking but asking difficult questions .
No this is in a midst of a pandemic. Everyone in the country is poor because of past choices. Why are they special? Certainly don't care for their patients. Just keep them out of the West.
The Minister was not saying anything 5 years later we are still in the same predicament.#God bless Zimbabwe
“Who, or what will save it”
I’m not sure but I hope the answer has to do with FALs and cargo shorts
At 23:10 the minister blamed the sanctions imposed by the American for causing an Economic collapse of the country. What I want to bring to light is that there are countries with even stricter sanctions than Zimbabwe but they continue to thrive amidst those sanctions, North Korea is one of them. Now, I want to ask what is it that those countries are doing which Zimbabwe is not doing? I do agree with the Minister's answer but he failed to give an answer regarding how the government intends to fight this problem of sanctions.
North Korea is not thriving. Their people are literally starving.
@@laurenjamieson8411 he had any country to pick from and decided to pick on human rights abusing North Korea😂...he had a point but North Korea bro??? That ain't living
@@robertjebediahfreeman4177 true, he did have a point.
South Africa is on the way there as well.
successes of "free" governments in Africa
Zimbabwe is not facing a situation that we have not seen before. We shall fight on and the Almighty will help our situation, as before. Please let us not forget that the pestilence facing this world is a form of judgment for those who exploited others.
Jay Cee Oh please, it’s been two decades on this trajectory. People need to wake up and revolt!
@@yeukat why should anyone revolt, many people are dying without revolting. Is violence that necessary nowadays?
@william tombs People always pray for the living and not for the dead. Zimbabweans are among those who are living today.
The only thing revolting here is the apologist such as yourself and your pestilence is your racist zanu pf comrades
Oh god please.....take responsibility for one friggen time for decisions you make in creating your situation.
The world has had enough of your victim mentality and not taking responsibility.
Am always complaining about kenya but now i appreciate what we have here.Clean water good education and health system
I know what you mean. Watching this makes me glad to be a Nigerian. At least our country has not become like Zimbabwe.
What did they think will happen when they took the farms from the people feeding them.
The bigger problem is that they gave those 'confiscated'/stolen lands to Mugabe's cronies and not to deserving black farmers who worked the land. But then again, a lot of those deserving black farmers did work with the white farmers and I can see why the government would mistrust them, thus instead giving the farm lands to those well deserving/corrupt families in their crony circle.
Wouldn't happend if the whities hasn't came
Exatly my sentimend at least they have the land now they can die with dignity from hunger thats very omforting
@@novaangelica5096 Not to worry, the yellowy ones are coming to their aid.
@@novaangelica5096 that so fucking racist 😆
Zimbabwean let’s die on our feet then live on our knees.Its time to stand up and fight.
fight who?
The revolution is coming...the power will be back in the people's hands.
Fool
Make Zimbabwe Rhodesia Again!
Joshua Fist That's right, it's ripe for a revolution to return the whites back so your country can function again. Africans are doing a bad job of governing themselves.
We were Lucky enough to take $7m US out of our farm when it was taken from us in Gems from uncle BOB...we will not come back to participate in the rebuilding of Rhodesia until the Vermon that is now in place that stole our land will give it back...we have made 30 to 1 the money we were lucky enough to take out of our farm....you gives our land...we give you back our knowledge...and we rebuild the bread basket...you support Mugabe...you go hungry...we are all Rhodesians....you have all created the current problem by telling us to leave....
Lol
Being a Zimbabweans in this life time it’s a curse truth be told
I pray Zimbabwe recovers!!!
The30Free ---ohhh gonna take about 100 years or more
Amen
No chance..it looks like SA going same way..from riches to rags
the bbc really knows how to throw a racists' convention.
Well said
that is their game and good at it
People in this video are dying and you chose to talk about the BBC and racism 😂😂😂
@@pieterprinsloo7616 his comment makes no sense.
Zimbabwe is getting destroyed. It was far better in 90s just like its cricket team.
Yeah, when it was living from the inheritance it got from Rhodesia and the British Empire. Now the inheritance has been used up and now they have to face the music.
It was already destroyed by the 90s. Mugabe had been in power 20 years by then.
Correction - 10 years
Do Zimbabweans agree with you though?
@Mindlos Mindlos no it isn’t. There is no behavior for it to rise.
A giant? Facing economic crash boom bang? 😂😂😂😂it happened when Rhodesia became zimbabwe...
while they suffer of very little food and no running water...here in America i complain about going outside because its to hot and not able to go out to a restaurant and eat inside. Americans truly live in glory
Yeah thanks to YT.
You also have to keep in mind that 300 years ago southern africa didn't have written language or the wheel yet................so there is a massive gap and successful civilization requires a certain way of thinking which is acquired over thousands of years.
this is something I think about a lot... how long does it take? From Homo Sapiens out of Africa to Europe today took 50000 years. I don't think this place has that much time.
Maybe they should not have expelled people that know how to run a modern farm.
Exactly, CULTURE MATTERS
Culture is why Rhodesia was more successful than Zimbabwe.
The Black Africans would have been better off slowly adapting the Culture of the White settlers instead of taking everything.
G. ,c
Culture and mindset are the cornerstone of any country. China changed how they operated and grew to superpower status in 50 years. England (a small island) had an empire where the sun never set. A relatively small number of settlers conquered nearly the entire African continent. Different models produce different results. Russia has a huge population and massive natural resources but only manages an economy the size of Spain. Singapore after WW2 was a worthless poor island in the pacific whose only use was a port for the British Fleet, now it’s a middle power powerhouse with little in the way of natural resources. Africa being colonized and then breaking their own legs every step of the way afterwards I’d a reflection of the people.
Japan was firebombed flat and then nuked and a few decades later became the second largest economy in the world before China took that spot. Germany was flattened in WW2 and cut in half for nearly 50 years then reunited and is now the strongest country in Europe. He’ll even south and Central America can run nations better. Maybe the rest of the world is doing something that actually works.
Cuba has been under sanctions forever and a day but it has the best healthcare system in the world !!!
Cuba: infant mortality 4.3 / 1000, Life expectancy 79.2 years; USA: infant mortality 5.3 / 1000, Life expectancy 80.3 years. The USA has more dead babies than Cuba!
African leaders should unite and save this issue
yes but will be hard
Those who say Zimbabwe is worse now than Mugabe's time have memories of frogs or they where dead during 2008
Hahahaha
yaeh its true though
The saddest thing about this is watching Afrikans comment with little knowledge of the facts about Zimbabwe. Yes, the economy has suffered over the last decades but not just because of gross mismanagement. Corruption and mismanagement are rife in Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda and so many other sub Saharan African countries. And yet none of these has suffered or suffers
like Zimbabwe. This is simply because Zim has been saddled with US led sanctions. Sanctions that were put in place because Zimbabweans where not happy with nominal emancipation of political independence but sought to undo colonial injustice and liberate themselves economically by claiming land back from white farmers. Zimbabweans or at least ZANU PF leaders understood that that real freedom could not be attained without achieving economic independence. Land reform was undertaken, Mugabe took the blame and decades down the road the program has been found to be a success according to research by university of Sussex. In 2019 800k households produced more tobacco than white farmers had ever produced, more tones of maize than white farmers ever managed. See more here. theconversation.com/land-reform-is-a-zimbabwe-success-story-it-will-be-the-basis-for-economic-recovery-under-mnangagwa-88205 Yes Zim has problems as so many other Afrikan countries but Zimbabweans are in a great position now compared to many afrikan countries where Afrikans are in essence houseboys of a ruling white or Asians class and a ruling afrikan elite that enriches itself from corruption and connivance with ruling white or Asian class. What we should be discussing is why is the US still putting sanctions on Zimbabwe? Why are afrikan nations not helping Zimbabweans and instead buying into this narrative of Zimbabweans stole land from white people and as such need to be punished by imposing sanctions? We should be careful not to feed into the biased BBC, CNN, Fox et al narrative. Politics in the Trump era has proved media is agenda driven. To my brothers and sisters think before you continue to buy into agenda driven narratives created by western media houses.
That is the truth the world is trying to hide under the carpet
Zim did nothing wrong by taking it's land back.the only problem facing Zimbabwe is that citizens are deprived of their democracy political opponents are being silent.they is nothing with the zanu organization but the official who are in zanu make it look bad by creating a mafia controlled economy corruption nepotism tribalism dictatorship no fresh ideas still clinging on the liberation movement yet not challenging a vision forward.zimbabwe is a small country when run properly even sactions cannot afffect it that severe let's hope a new generation will make it great again like the way it was when it was Rhodesia . transformation is painful but they will get there it's just a matter of time
Shame, so why can't fake compnies in Zims neighbours export her goods and bring in imports for her? Are you telling me the black cant do anything if the whites say no? Maybe it just could that blacks have the reigns of control in their hands but failed to build management structures and blame whites when they fail. My boy stop blaming and stand up like a man and fix your own problems, whites whites whites, fcuuk off.
Mr President Cocktails and Mixers
So the white come in.
Look at land noboddy uses in a land which had no land devolopment before.
He than invested decades of his life and hard work in to that land.
Then 100 years later the locale populatian says he thats not fair, you work hard and we still have nothing.
And take the land away from these people only not to work the land and let it die.
You know what.
We should stop giving Afrika any money.
Let them sort it out.
And If they complain we simpel say NO MORE MONEY.
You wanted the land ?
Work for it.
Europe and the west should close all its borders to lazy and corrupt countries.
Loads of problems Will be solved that way.
Complain to yourselfs instead of always playing the victim.
@@chrissmith-td3iu first of all I'm not black and I'm not an idiot like you but I will let it pass because I can tell that you talking from a position of priveledge you are not putting yourself in another man's shoes to understand his situation. To say blacks can't do nothing when a white says no it's a straw man argument I will tell you of Nigeria guess what they do well more than any African country without a white man.Dont get me wrong I'm not a racist like you to think that the other race is superior than the other or the other race should apologise for being alive that can only exist in your mind not in the majority of people . I firmly believe you judge a man based on his/her actions because the majority of Black Zimbabweans want democracy want a functional state that's why they is opposition party in Zimbabwe . don't bring up race in an argument coz it will make you appear like a victim are you a victim do you want to spend your whole life thinking like a victim.so sad
Love that interviewer he isn't let that politician get away with lying
Zimbabwe, collapsed totally long ago, since it no longer were Rhodesia, they killed of their own food basket, cocasians where chased out of the country. Zimbabweans are fleeing to rsa in huge hoards,
Unfortunately rsa has not learned any lessons from the Zimbabwean situation and thus are on the same path.
And they say white people are racist. We couldn't get away with chasing away black people
Rhodesia thrived under sanctions, while Zimbabwe crumbles under economic aid. The issue is poor leadership and corruption, which will continue to plague Zimbabwe until a responsible government arises. Mnangagwa, the former head of the 5th Brigade, perpetrators of a genocide called the Gukurahundi, are not that responsible government Zimbabwe needs.
The interview with the Zanu-PF MP shows exactly the attitude of the Zimbabwean government. The BBC interviewer is talking about very important problems with society after they removed Rhodesia but failed to bring any good governance to their country, and all he wants to talk about is his excuses and try to list off his Economics vocabulary list.
MichiganLaw It's how he cons his own politically naive voters and he thinks it will work everywhere.
The blacks wanted their cake, now let them eat. NO sympathy!
@White Straight Male Atheist Sperg I don't know if anyone's told them but (when their new masters the Chinese take the resources...we'll just buy it from them.) Besides...the African resource monopoly is a lie, it was just the easiest to get. The top ten richest countries in the world feature the congo...out of 10...www.investopedia.com/articles/markets-economy/090516/10-countries-most-natural-resources.asp. Say this means nothing, they will continue to smoke the pap juice and taking from the rest.
No we wanted to stop being murdered, we wanted to stop being raped,
we wanted to stop being shoved into delpaidated areas and our land given to a few individuals.
we wanted to be able to just live life and not think every day was our last.
we wanted to stop being injected with diseases.
We wanted resources to stop being pillaged. We wanted to stop being treated like we werent human.Dont act like us fighting to get out of that situation was a bad thing. Nobody can live a life of a slave and be happy and ok. Nobody cares about your sympathy, we gain nothing from it.
@Mindlos Mindlos
And without the West's expertise, organization, work ethic, etc. Africa would have stayed light years behind the rest of the world.
@@MsThe1girl
Then why don't you learn to grown a pair and show them the same regard they show you which is no mercy, defending what's yours at all costs? They're not going to leave you alone until you make them by force.
@@shauncameron8390 Because that would mean adopting the same savage monster behaviour we fought so hard to escape from. Don't get me wrong, that mentality should be used. however, as a last resort, when all else fails because it risks spilling innocent blood. Can you imagine if i just started murdering them, raping their women, injecting them with chemicals, maiming them and their families, because they were a colour different from mine. In fact their leaders and armies would use it as an excuse to kill us more. I'm not a saint though ,I'd love if their leaders and armies got the exact same treatment they give us with neo-colonialism. Heck throw in our own leaders, they are sell out puppets anyway. That's why your "grow a pair" suggestion and "treat them the same", won't work, it's too intricate a situation, you have to be smart about it. Using that route would mean Innocent people will be killed, while those responsible will live on sheltered in their mansions continuing to destroy, murder and pillage for hundreds of more years.
Were you lying when you helped getting rid of Ian Smith, or are you lying now ?
Why sanctions then,put simth in power and impose sanctions then come here and compare,west are punishing African countries and control economies so that they continue suck the resources
Why not get rid of zanu of....obvious they were effective as a liberation organization but not as a govt
My father was born in Zimbabwe and it's sad to see the current state of the place.