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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ค. 2024
- Good afternoon, folks. I hope you're all well. Today, we talk about physical and digital games and how I fear that a future where physical games are pretty much nonexistent is coming sooner than we all might realize. I hope you all enjoy!
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0:00 Intro
01:59 Preservation
05:26 Prices
06:15 The Loss of Something Special
07:10 Conclusion
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Buying a physical game and finding a paper with a code is the worst feeling
I don’t even understand the point of the types of “physical” games…
I mean, just read the box before buying...
@@fumomofumosarum5893 I haven’t bought a physical copy of a game in 10 years. I’m obviously talking about when it first started happening and people got tricked…bozo
its a thing only in America i believe there allowed too get away with that type of stuff,other countries i believe have laws too prevent it
That's why I just import copies from Asia, man. Laziness and greed
I actually feel like I don't own a game unless I have a physical copy.
Yea, because you don't.
You don't.
Same 😭
"if you cant hold it... you dont own it" (a phrase borrowed from the precious metals world... physical in hand vs. a futures contract)
you own your gaming account, hate to break it to you, once you buy it, you own it forever, i've been gaming online since 2008, not one time has a game i bought ever been removed from my library
@@questcore636 there are plenty of games people paid for that they can no longer re-download.
@@questcore636Still, the games are tied to your one account. As free speech is attacked more and more, what if you say a naughty word on Xbox live and they ban your account?
Now I wouldn’t think they would prevent you from re-downloading things you’ve bought, but the fact that it’s possible isn’t a nice thought.
@@theleehasleeway if you're that concerned, then don't violate the ToS
@@questcore636 I normally don’t and I almost only play single player games anyways. Just saying, even though it would suck to lose all online progress/achievements and all that if an account got totally terminated, owning games themselves that aren’t locked to a specific account is a good option to have.
I've been a physical game guy as far back as I can remember. Still have Nintendo games with their original cases. I never trusted digital games and avoided them since you don't actually own those. Seeing the possibility of an all digital future drawing nearer each day worries me.
The only digital games I have are the F2P ones on PC or any I got on a steam sale for 5$.
Same, the day gaming goes digital only is the day I stop buying new games
@@jase276 me too I will always and always will support physical media and backwards compatibility and I would be damn if I go all digital with these all digital consoles but pretty soon we will just have to get used to it 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 and I already got mostly tons of used PS4 games physically and some PS5 games physically too especially the so-called worst PS4 games of all time like micro machines and mighty no 9 and Gi Joe. I'm lucky enough to find 2 star war's remastered double packs and a few sonic games and some fighting games and gaming compilations😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃 and that's why I'm supporting physical media. And I also got kh 1.5+2.5 HD remix and kingdom hearts 3.
Same my collection is physical games only. I'm also glad games like sifu and kena have a physical version.
You don't actually own physical games either.
@@nathanmjackson1210 It sounds like you're one of those misinformed people who think physical games are just a download key or are DRM protected when that's not true. It only accounts for less than half a % of games.
Also, I'm pretty sure I own all my physical copies of Atari games all the way up to at least PS3/PS4/360/Wii if we are going with your misinformed logic.
As a PC only guy atm i don't want physical games to disappear and you're pretty much summed up the reasons.
PC game also have disc until around 2014 when steam takes full control. And steam sucks.
@@walterlv4093yea and that pc games on disc disppeared cuz the shitty drms on them that stopped you from returning the game or even selling it.
@@walterlv4093 why do you think Steam sucks lol?
looking at your very slow disc speed compared to my M.2 SSD read and write speeds
But for you they did, a long time ago lol. Since you don't buy physical games anyway you are basically part of the problem. *shrug*
I feel this so hard, but with music.
I like buying a CD and actually owning the CD.
I don't want to pay a monthly subscription to access music which may or may not be on the platform forever, most likely for more money than I'd spend on CDs.
I.e. iTunes
Same here.
This video touched my personally. I also fear for a digital only age. For me digital games are worthless, I pay full price for something I don't really own. Personally if the industry really goes full digital I will buy maybe 1 or 2 game a year or wait for an extreme discount on those games.
Current exemple is Baldur's Gate 3. I won't have a physical release....I simply can't send 80$+ on Baldur's Gate 3 on PS5 to be digital only....
I really like the fact that with no more region locking on Sony consoles, I can go to a game store and find titles that were published all over the world. Especially games that weren't released either physically or digitally here. I've got games released in France, Germany, England, Australia, Mexico, Brazil, Korea, Japan, and Taiwan, mostly found in game stores here in Texas. I love the international feel of physical media nowadays. I don't want that to go away and become all digital.
The video game industry wanted to turn video games into fast food and never care about physical gaming and wanted to sell the next game in there menu. To this day the video game industry never call video games as "ART" as they rather wanted you to see them as disposable gaming.
We can thank Xbox for that when they decided to sell subscriptions instead of making games. People actually praise them for the Game Pass. It's no wonder devs are starting to get pissed. Now the future looks bleak with digital only online $70 beta tests.
@jase276 smartest comment I've seen in this subject. I've been saying this for years. That's one if thr major reasons why the xbox brand is failing aside from having no quality 1st party games. A lot of people caught on to Microsoft strategy and isn't buying into it. Microsoft is trying to do everything to win but make good games. Their system is online only, can't play offline, there's a drm check everytime u shut off and turn on thr console which forces not being able to play your owned games, digital or physical offline. I hate xbox. Loved their first 2 consoles but Microsoft is truly the cancer of gaming. Devs can't really be making off gamepass. Watch when we all go digital and games get delisted, no resale watch how exercise complains, especially when the serviced are down. It was next about convenience, but money, greed.
@@redcrimson1028Mate, what you on about? The Playstation 2 was the last console where 100% playable physical media existed.
Since then your console needed a software update to play and game be it physical or digital.
Physical media died with the PS3 and 360.
Also, people still make fun of gamers who actually have shelves of games, calling them losers and such. The gaming community abandoned physical media long ago.
@@Billinousyou make your decisions based on people making fun of you? Funny thing is plenty of us make fun of digital only owners, what are you on about?
@@jordanhayate8588 The point is that if the majority still make fun of people stocking old games, then this is evidence that the public has abandoned physical media. Simple as.
100%. This is pure facts. Keep gaming physical.
???? but it's just an install disc, you do realize games are between 80-120GB right? you trying to say that can actually work in the future?
@@questcore636 we did multidisc in CD and DVD days. FF7R2 going two disc. So why not?
@@PressALPHA dude, those are install discs, they just do that to give you the false sense of playing physical so you guys will stop crying about physical
@@questcore636 nope it’s still physical media and it’s what a vast number of gamers want.
@@PressALPHA you're an idiot, it's an install disc @PressALPHA
The same issue encroaching physical media for Movies and similair media, a digital future. Physical copies are also going out the door with streaming services that are replacing them. We are now even facing lost media becuase of movies and series are being altered or censored on those platforms and becoming the only available source to see them legit. My guess is the high seas are gonna become a much bigger part of this for preservation purposes. Hopefully with law starting to be passed to protect preservation if corporations dont lobby those to thin air
"have" replaced them
I think the recent E shop closure’s definitely have reignited the spark of interest for physical releases in many. So I don’t think after seeing how crazy people were buying up physical copies that companies will stop physical releases any time soon
The worst is buying a physical copy, you put in the disc and then it downloads the game anyway....
At least you can still share/sell the disk though. A flawed physical release is still better than digital
Man grew up with a Wii. This man grew up with NES.
Do you want a prize or something?
I agree. I don't want a digital-only future, but Microsoft is forcing a future where games are downloaded or streamed.
I feel like company’s will see a decline in sales due to a lot more people emulating. This will show the company’s that physical media is better
Ppl will still emulate in that case. Physical copies get uploaded and emulated…
Do you hope that happens? I do, and I don't even play video games.
I love the whole experience of being able to buy physical, be it finding games at flea markets or at the game stores, participating in midnight launch events or just being able to have one thing to keep on the shelf.
Should it happen that we switch completely to digital, I will probably stop buying new games altogether.
"Should" it happen? It absolutely will happen....
You'll absolutely still buy them. 💯
@johnortiz5107 Why so certain? There are so many hundreds of thousands of games already you could play games for the rest of your life and never buy a single new release.... *shrug*
@@Alcoholic_Nerd
In you're delution yes but in reality '
Phycical media would never die as long as their are enough who bay them '
Who it still are.
@heavensea141 Yea ok buddy, just ask PC gamers....
The physical is a time capsule. There are 3 different physical versions of the original Legend of Zelda. You can play them and see the progression and refinements made through the life cycle of the original game.
With digital, once a game is patched, you can't revert back.
This is important for preservation, but also to see how revisions affected the game. I've seen channels do retrospectives on Mortal Kombat showing the day 1 editing versus the latest patch. There are sometimes exploits that made the earlier version fun.
A. you can, and B. >buying digital games
That sounds too expensive
That's why I'm keeping my old systems.
Same here. They're better anyway, and more fun to play.
I purchased the Spiderman 2 Collectors edition, which comes with a steelbook case for the game, with a game code inside. I also went to my local gamestop and pre ordered a standard copy of the game on physical as to fill my completionist needs, AND i only own digital consoles because they were cost effective at the time. MIss the days of collectors editions on 360 that gave me EVERYTHING.
Finally somebody speaks out about it
Honestly I do prefer physical media waaaay more than digital and what upsets me is that some games you were excited on getting ends up being digital only (sometimes it happens in some countries)
I'm looking at you Klonoa Phantasy Reverie series
@@Vercusgames And if your console breaks or stops working completely
Sorry buddy looks like you need to spend another 60$ on the game you spent on again
Again physical wins again if you have the physical version of the game and get a new console you don't need to spend 60$ again to get the game again
Razorfist has been discussing this for years now.
@@ethanc.8683 bro don't tell me how digital games work without telling me you don't know how they work you keep these games on your ACCOUNT not console so even if your console broke and buy new console you can download same game for free without spending again but only drawback if sony ever stop support server for console due to being old like i talk about ps3 wii u and 3ds then you can't buy games that were in store also it you can't give your friend your games due to being digital so you have two option one you give them your account if you can trust them or b tell them buy game yourself so you can try it also it if you don't want play this one game anymore you can't sell it even tho due to being digital that why physical can do that what i saying is that you shouldn't worry about console you should have worry about your accounts since you can get your account hacked or banned (yeah they can do that)
So basically me and the Persona 4 Golden Switch port. I was _so_ close to picking it up until I found Atlus decided to be cheap on cartridges. Shame too because I always wanted to play Persona 4
@@PeruvianPotato there's a persona 4 port?
I won't ever buy a digital only console, I wanted a laptop with a disc drive, but got a pretty good gaming laptop without (the specs are mental, mind), then went out and bought an external DVD Player that I can jus plug into the USB (I have too many PC games on disc...)! And I like having the boxes, I have a drawer full of PlayStation, Xbox, PS2, 360, PS3 and 3DS cases! Having them physical means I have ready and instant access to them whenever I want, I don't care about having to change discs, they're all right there in front of me anyway! Although, a couple of games I did get digitally cuz they were so damned cheap (Digimon World: Next Order for less than £7? Feck yeah!), but 99% of the time, I can get them considerably cheaper physically! And I do like emulating, so...
I’ll be buying a laptop at some point in the future but was disappointed that to get one with good and fast specs, I can’t choose one with a disc drive. Thank you for the reminder that there’s a DVD accessory one can buy, that’s awesome.
I agree entirely with you, but I do want to note that even digital games can be found cheap elsewhere. People buy key codes for games all the time for discounted prices.
All of my games right now are digital copies.
I used to care about the principle of physical games years ago but i just don't care as much anymore, it makes no difference to me as i get older.
That's sad! 😢
@@kwiebus2267 What is sad
@@unicorntomboy9736 It's your own opinion, and i respect that, but on the point of game preservation, it's a bit sad, and i hope you realize, where digital games are concerten, you actually don't own the game itself, but a license to play it!
I ment concerned, (sigh) spellcheckers!
@@kwiebus2267 You don't own the game either even for physically too
Physical games will never be replaced by digital games in my heart. I hate the trend with digital only games nowadays
I think it’s not going to completly vanish, certain companies will phase them out soon enough. But I think there a few too many people who won’t accept it. Carts can take over, for smaller games like Nintendo do with the switch. Games have become way too big for a disc to carry it all. But keeping games around if they are delisted will have to be figured out.
everything you've pointed out in this video is the exact same thing my fiancee & i have been saying for years now. yes there's pro's & con's to both, but that big con of digital being that when it's yanked off of the digital store you are S.O.L. is disheartening to say the least, you have then been reduced to paying for a long rental of the game and not owning the game (in most circumstances) and i am poor, i want to know that when i spend my money and buy a game i own the game (DLC excluded) . plus i just love holding and looking at my physical collection.. but that's me personally . Thank you for your post, great video.
I love your editing so so much and it’s not just that, your channel is so underrated! I love your content and love to see more, keep up the amazing work because it’s good to see someone who works hard for their vidos and it’s not a lazy mess like other big youtubers are.
I honestly feel like a completely digital future is kind of being foisted on people rather than being a preference. Like most people would prefer to have both options I think. But since digital saves companies so much money (considering they charge the same price for a game in digital format as physical) that they are the ones directing the market towards that end.
that's because business isn't a democracy, these days with all the piracy, and hacking, and trade inflation of old games, compAnies needs full control of their content, in the end we already got that choice taken away, this so-called physical media is not physical, it's an install disc, so why fight it at this point? you can't even fit 80GB games onto a disc, you have to package 80% the files on the disc, then download the rest with updates
I will be buying physical copies for as long as I’m able to, I won’t stop playing games if physical games go away but it won’t be the same without them
Me too!
One of the biggest issues I have with an all digital future is we won't actually own what we buy, we essentially rent digital games but with a £70/$70 fee and an undisclosed date when you time is up, I hate that uncertainty, yeah physical games do die on us but at least it's not a corpo f*ckwit deciding to rip it away from us unfairly, also there is are physical copies of Omori on Fangamer but who knows how long there gonna keep making copies.
I bought it immediately at GameStop when it came out for the switch at my local GameStop! Great game!
@@noneofyourbusiness1114Same thing with me but with CrossCode. As soon as I found a physical copy, I picked that baby up as soon as possible
Piracy will take care of all of the concerns in the all-digital future.
Piracy is great, but adds storage, safety, and legal concerns, often negates the possibility of playing online, can't always properly circumvent DRM; see GT Sport and GT7 on a GoldHEN/Mira PS4, which can only be played in limited capcities with dubug menus; sometimes take considerable time for game cracks to release, occassionally require backports for modded consoles, which can be hard to find if they're even available, et cetera.
I love physical games! ❤
Game & Console manufacturers are pushing for digital only because it gets rid of the 2nd hand game market and game sharing which means anyone who wants to play a game has to buy it from them (cant borrow a copy from a friend anymore) and they can control the price.
They can also control the market for reissues/remasters. When a new version of a beloved game comes out they can essentially make old versions unavailable and force people to have to buy a new copy. Its greed and power and it can fuck off
And if people are suddenly offended by a game. Poof it's gone.
It's nothing like growing up being a gamer kid.... rushing to an ol' "Funcoland"....looking at all the games of interest displayed on the wall.,the sales clerk greets you with a friendly "Hello...Can I Help You ?" Just warms the heart. As you look to purchase video game magic. You grabbing game cases on display....looking at the game pics & sometimes read the description on the back. You finally picked what you want to pay for it.....then you rush all the way home to play game greatest....so I hope they never get rid of gaming disc....I don't want to be online all day everyday.... sometimes I just want to play in solo mode....,let us choose what type of gaming we could become....
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Great example with kingdom hearts, was trying to put my girlfriend onto the series, and the digital prices would not go down, found a complete edition for 30 bucks I have PlayStation store kept charging 70 bucks. Literally on Black Friday I went to the digital store front and no price drops
Physical games all day. Physical media will always be there, unlike digital.
Correcttion on OMORI being delisted: it's only affected the XBOX platforms, availability on PS4 seems to depend on the region. You can still get the game digitally on Switch and PS4 though, and more importantly, physically!
I got the physical Switch edition of OMORI and it's sweet. One thing I miss about modern physical releases is the exclusion of game manuals; at best they're treated as bonus material if you get a particular edition. I just got the standard copy, but it came with the manual and a cute sticker of Omori and Basil. Aghhh, it's such an adorable physical release whenever I forget this game is supposed to be psychological horror.
And because I'm normal, I have OMORI both on Steam and Nintendo Switch. Totally not addicted to this game lol.
I miss how physical editions of games used to always come with goodies and stuff…
Also your pfp is so pretty Jesus Christ…
Your format is slick man! I like it.
Thanks, mate!
The gaming community have proven time and again that they don't care for physical media.
Proof: Whenever a remaster or Remake is releases, the community gets rid of their original copy faster than you can say "preservation".
Also, there have been ZERO 100% playable physical media in the gaming industry since the Playstation 2. All games require a software update on the console to run.
Finally, the PC and mobile gaming communities are the largest and both fully digital.
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I was going to keep the 'watching videos in a stupid way' thing going but I couldn't get a browser working on my smartwatch...
Can't remember what started that, but I'm gonna continue it.
Good video btw.
On a smartwatch?🤣🤣 How would you even see anything on it?
And thank ya, mate. I’m glad you like it
On a smartwatch?🤣🤣 How would you even see anything on it?
And thank ya, mate. I’m glad you like it
I literally been waiting for Alan wake 2 and whatever reason they try to feed my why there won’t be physical copies…. I don’t buy it, I don’t support it. I’m glad to see there is people that care about this issue, I didn’t think anyone cared !!!!
That was a great video. Keep it up! 👍
Glad you liked it!
Ownership, ownership, PWNERSHIP!
iv been looking for these videos ever since jumpforce got delisted😅.
Great video!
Sony and Microsoft didn't take, notice they engineered the situation to do it because they don't wanna split the money with companies like GameStop and Walmart and also they didn't want to have to deal with used game sales since they can't get paid off them. This way they can resell the same games forever and also sell people subscriptions. They didn't notice that they could do that, they did that on purpose to the consumer and they want to take that even further.
It's not about money as much as its about narrative suppression. Think about every major company in the world you've heard of across multiple different industries. Accept that these are all owned by the same few people with an agenda. Now it all fits together. If you have discs you've got access to your game library as and when you want it. If you have digital it's now subject to whatever the large organisations decide. Let's say you have a view on a controversial subject that goes against media. If you air that view then they ban you. When they do what happens to your games? They're gone. Now people think twice about saying certain things and will appear to conform to the norm. That viewpoint won't be heard.
I saw this shit coming back during the PS3 era. I knew something was going to happen along the lines of digital. So in 2009 I started buying all the old games I could. I built a giant library of 1000+ games. I'm one step away from quitting modern gaming and going retro only. I have enough games to keep me occupied for 10 lifetimes. I need something in my hands that I can hold for the money I spend. In the early 2000's I went digital with music and I seriously regret it. I have all of my CD's stored on itunes. I've had to back my shit up so many times because of devices failing. I'm one step away from permanently losing my music.
The thought of an all-digital future scares me.
I only buy games digitally whenever there’s sale or if it’s not in stores. I always prefer digital because of the cool boxart.
I’m praying that many older games get remastered ports, and that older game prices drop.
The all-digital future scares me on closed platforms, but not on open platforms like the PC, Android,etc. because creating your own physical games on open platforms IS possible. Buy a DRM-free game or break the DRM on the games YOU purchased, and from there you can burn that game to a disk, or copy and paste those files onto a flash drive. You can even make your own box art too or download some from people who are already doing this.
Maybe doing it that way is “unofficial” and “unclean” and “not accessible to the masses” just like emulation. And in your video you are right, not everyone is into emulation and may not have the knowledge and luxury to sidestep the digital future - BUT here’s the big kicker: they will eventually HAVE to be into emulation and that kind of stuff. Because eventually, this kind of stuff will be the ONLY way. Console hardware is finite, disk rot away over time, the PS6 and Xbox5 may not even have disk drives at all.
The “official” way of companies preserving games physically was doomed from the start. Sadly, the all-digital future was and is inevitable. And as that happens FOSS and DIY will grow. Over time emulation and making our own physical media will become more and more accessible and easier to use.
When “unofficial” becomes (or is going to become) the ONLY way to do something … then that unofficial way IS official.
My plan for game preservation for PS5 is to have 4TB drive and download all PS5 games that I like and bring the system offline at the end of the generation which will be 2028. Plan to do the same for PC but I don't know if steam requires you connect to internet on regularly basis or not.
Fun fact you can actually go offline with steam, just depends what games
Loved tales of Berseria 😭💜
I belive that physical media will be relevant as long as there is a market for it. Sure you might have to order it online and fewer copies get printed. We still have movies CD's and books releasing physical still.. why would gaming go all digital before other media??
nope, it'll be around as long as companies deems it profitable
To be honest, I do prefer digital since it's much more convenient. You don't have to change the disc's, there's online sale, that kind of stuff. But physical is definitely gonna hold a place in my heart and I really don't want to see it go away.
Oh no. A whole 20 seconds to change a game disc every other day. Hey at least you can resell your barely used digital games and help pay for other games you might want. Oh…
@@AJ-ed7mx it doesn't even take 20 seconds to swap out the disc's.
@@baki484 correct you are! I half blame the people. Half blame the companies. How can one know that digital isn’t all that, if all they have known is digital? 🤔 food for thought
not top mention disc speed is 300% slower than read speeds on a SSD
@@AJ-ed7mx I mostly blame the people who decided to forego the ownership of their media for convenience and since they flocked to it like sheep the companies doubled down on digital to the point of not even putting the game on the disc.
I love being over encumbered with physical media it’s a big pain in the ass and slow but I love it
Haven’t read the comments yet but just wanna mention, the fact that you can buy all the digital games you want and have your account banned for any reason, completely deleting everything you’ve done save data wise, getting rid of any game you’ve ever bought, etc… it’s horrifying
Hi! I noticed on the section were you went to your JRPG tab in steam you had games like xenogears, xenosaga, tales of xillia, etc. All of which not being on the steam store. I was wondering how you got those I'd love to play them. I know you can add non steam games to your steam library but I was under the impression they had to be .exe or applications not just roms. If you could give me a little guidance or perhaps a future video that'd be greatly appreciated!
Ah howdy. I just used a program called “Steam Rom Manager.” It’s pretty easy to use it once you get the hang of it. Here’s the tutorial I used for it. I hope I was able to help
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Ever since Sony almost shut down the PS3 and Vita store, i started focusing more on buying physical games, you cant even trust Sony to preserve your games
Physical for life. At least where possible. Don't get me wrong I have hundreds of Steam games, but they were all mostly purchased for under 10 bucks and I fully expect Steam to die one day and have to revert to pirated versions of any of them I actually want to keep playing when that happens. But if I'm still playing on console at all I'd prefer to have the physical version that can't be taken from me without someone walking into my house, especially after Sony tried to shut down all my legitimately purchased/downloaded PS3 games. I don't particularly care about day and date releases and if I want it that bad, Amazon has next day shipping. To be fair yeah sure we like it, it's convenient, but only as an OPTION not the ONLY way of purchasing something. Unfortunately, greedy corporations that want to control how and when we play their games see anyone using digital at all as total acceptance, regardless of our actual preference and WILL use it to bleed us dry.
I have a PS3 Fat (not backward compatible with PS2 games), PS4 Slim, and PS5 disc edition console and yes, it's always good to buy disc version consoles for many reasons:
1) Once u buy the game on the disc that doesn't require a day 1 patch or doesn't require internet to make the game playable, the game is owned by the user just as long as you take care of both the disc and the console it plays on.
2) The internet is never reliable in terms of its consistent availability of servers, stores, and games being readily available no matter the console.
3) If you don't live somewhere that grants you access to free internet somehow, you don't have to increase your monthly bill by a segment by buying into a home internet service provider just to have access to a digital store with the latest games on it.
4) Having the physical copy of games from older systems that Sony or Microsoft refuse to put in the store or subscription services for current generation consoles for whatever reason can always be played, again, as long as the disc and console are well taken care of.
I'm sure there are other valid reasons I may not have thought of that put having physical copies of games over having digital copies of games, but I think the points I mentioned are some of the most important points.
Great video!
the moment consoles go all digital , is the day i quit the new consoles. i have enough games for ps4/ps5 and nintendo switch anyways that will last me my entire life time.
Same here!
This is straight facts!
7:00 how do you got persona 3 fes on steam? there is only the portable version on steam
I used a program to put my roms into my Steam library
Im a gamer and I love games but the industry as a whole kinda sucks. They dont care about the consumer or preserving the older games at all.
Physical copies were cool for me as a kid but like you said in the video, they take up space. But then if I had to manage a physical library maybe I wouldn't have the dreaded backlog of eternal shame, eternal for I don't have enough time in my life to play them all...
Backlog’s still a very real thing for some physical collectors like myself XXD But, yeah, maybe you’d have better management skills with than that I do (which isn’t all that hard to beat XD)!
I totally understand that... Physical is always so fun to have and will always be my first choice. For my playstations, DS or any other consoles, if I can have the game in physical, I'll buy it. You can always re-sell it in the future and you know that your game doesn't depend on the fact that you can download it or not.. Physical also means I can pass the game to my friends so they can just enjoy it for free :) Like imagine if steam shut down.. Everyone would loose a lot of money... Physical is forever, not digital. That's a big subject I'm fighting in right now...
Apart from that, super video, I liked it :)
I also hope i didn't do too much mistakes.. English ain't my main language, so...
Thank you for watching, friend and I’m glad you enjoyed it. Also your English is great!
Also yes…I love physical media and I had I had to let it go…
I don't want an ALL-Digital Future either. But at this point, i'm really afraid. I've been talking about this for years. But all people do is laughing or say that they don't care... So i guess i'm just waiting in silence now and see at what happens once we get there. Because the biggest thing for me is that the companies will have full control. So if you buy a movie or a game (or even a song for that matter) and they decide to unplug whatever little server they are running on. Well, you can say goodbye to your media!
Discs these days are only DRM checks. The Switch is the only console whose games usually don't install entirely into storage and load directly from cartridge. PS5 and XSX games never load from the disc anymore because disc reading is too slow for the their 4k-quality assets.
I like the benefits of digital media because sometimes I can get games cheaper that way by taking advantage of summer sales and such, but the one thing that really annoys me about digital media is when games are technically available but unable to be bought,.
This happens all the time on the Xbox store front, I´ll log in one day, take a look at my wishlist and notice that some of the games I´ve yet to buy are still listed there but unavailabe to be purchased because...I guess publishers are a**holes.
A fellow Shantae enjoyer I see my man 🤝 and keep spitting them fax
No lie your voice is so soothing to listen to.
I am more afraid of only virtual money…scarry times will come…subscribed!
*scary. What's scary is your lack of ability to spell simple words.
do you buy a game for both platforms pc and ps5 . if its a game that u really like?
btw where do you get game ost and hey i use music bee too
I buy my games on PC and only PC. If it's a game I REALLY want a physical of, I'll get the PS5 physical version and then (yo-ho yo-ho) the PC version.
Also based asf for Musicbee. It's soooooo dang good...
I was never really concerned about digitial gaming that much until about 2 hours ago playing MW2 on my Xbox SX. In the middle of a game and it shouts at my saying my disk is either not inserted or damaged so it cannot check I have a licence for the game. As it happened I just gave the disc a wipe put it back in and I was good to go but had it not worked I would assume I would have to buy a whole new copy online, does anyone know what I would need to do?
Great video
also there's the fact that if you buy a game on something like PSN you don't officially own the game. Just the licence to play it. and Sony has the complete right to revoke your licence at any given time and not refund your money. So if you get banned from PSN for whatever reason your ENTIRE digital library will lock and you'll no longer be able to play the games you purchased.
but if you own the physical disk, they can't lock you out of playing your game.
NO ONE can stop me playing the physical games I have purchased. The same can't be said for those of you with digital libraries
5:32 do you have a link for the persona 5 striker pls, i want to buy for this price
It’s $10 now but hey that’s still cheap😅
www.gamestop.com/video-games/products/persona-5-strikers---playstation-4/242993.html
Especially when Sony and Microsoft are updating system software with a virus malware bug stopping some physical games from working intentionally since ps4, forcing users to buy digital games, physical is a scam
Modding consoles and emulation is the only way to play digital games after the console isn't supported.
The Vita kinda lived on like that for years after they lost support.
6:14 🤣 It was heard to watch for the first three episodes, not sure about the books.
im a PC player and i wholeheartedly agree with this
love the video
Most physical games these days do not have the entire game on the disc. Games from the PS3 like Dragon's Crown or the two Tales games on PS4 (originally made for last generation) do, but nothing else does. Killzone Shadowfall doesn't let you load up version 1.0 of the game even if you are offline. You assume that developers will let you play version 1.0 on the physical disc. If the developer does not let you play the game on version 1.0 then the disc is pointless. Version 1.0 may not be that good. Each game is become its own platform rather than being one and done. With Mortal Kombat 10 and 11, version 1.0 is not that great.
I want people to have a choice. Many people don't have internet cause they can't afford the monthly payment, so this would leave them out. But as a digital game owner, that's my preference but would never want that ''forced' on people. I have XSX and my games are all on the external strage card, which is basicaly a small cartridge. So in a sense, all my games are on cartridge lol! When full, I buy another. So all my games are on a physical source and I will always have them, even if they're taken down from the store.
All digital does have caveats, Steam gives users access to their games and stores them free of charge but Gabe Newell won't be around forever, XBOX gives you access to your digital media with the caveat that you pay up on a monthly or yearly subscription. Sony, same. Ultimately you put your library in the hands of a company hoping they don't close off your access one day on a whim.
Or, you can get a DRM free version of the game on PC and then there's zero caveats.
The reason why PC is all-digital now is because PC doesn't have a physical solution for modern games. The last time PC games got physical releases was when the DVD-ROM format was still relevant, which was a very long time ago. Today's AAA games won't fit in a DVD, let alone a dual-layered one. Blu-ray never had any demand in the PC market. Not to mention the lack of disc drive in the majority of computers now.
true when i bought new pc i noticed it doesn't have disc drive (even tho all my games are digital due to that exact reason)
personally idrc , fromsoft, nintendo and the persona team are like the olny devs that still consistently put out bangers anyway imo so we wont really be missing much. the physical copies of all the classics will still be around
Totally agree brother. Totally!
The reason I don't like digital games has nothing to do with it actually being digital but more the fact that they have ridiculous DRM policies on consoles. If I was to purchase a digital file from the PSN or XB marketplace and I could do anything I want with the file i.e. back it up on my PC then i'd welcome the digital future. Unfortunately digital games are limited to accounts, need XB/PS to maintain a server in order for me to transfer it anywhere etc. It's not good value for money because they are not pricing them correctly. Digital files are not worth $50 and I will give up on new games should they get rid of the disc drive.
Nintendo shows really clear what it mean - digitalised. Now if you don’t have physical copy or moded Wii, Wii U, ds, 3ds. You never will play again on game that you had in digital copy.
I've been digital for 10 years now. Don't miss physical games at all. My brother used to steal my shit all the time. He stole Jak II and Jak 3 while I was in Florida which is a huge no no
I remember in my teens and early 20s having loads of physical games
I'm now in my mid 30s, all my physical games are gone but I can still play them and more thanks to emulators, digital games, HDDs & SSDs
I get the appeal of having physical games but for me personally... Digital
You're not too bright, so your opinion is null.
Well, i have to say that all games might be digital in the near future. Look at dvds and Blu-rays went extinct in our store in my country, The Warehouse. They don't do DVDs and Blu-rays movies anymore. So I think games will be next. And there's not much we can do.
There should always be a choice always but I like a mix of being on a subscription service with the convenience of changing game within seconds but I do want to buy physical games that I know I want to keep forever
retail isn't a democracy, as long as it generates money they'll let you have the choice, when it makes no money doing it, you'll lose that choice
*I've only ever been a fan of physical for the Artwork 🕵 but usually when I have a physical case and disc, there's something inside me that just wants to get rid of it* 💁
What
I think it's inevitable at this point. The majority of physical releases don't even come complete on the disc/cartridge anymore. They require huge patches to even be in a playable state. That's the biggest reason I stopped buying physicals. If I don't get the full game on the disc anyways I might aswell just buy it digitally and save myself the hassle of going out to buy what's essentially a plastic paperweight. In that sense we all already are playing digital only. The disc you buy is simply a physical key to the full game.
when was xenosaga and persona 3 fes on steam. I cant find them
They aren’t😅 I just used a program to add the ROMs to my library
I just shared your video on Twitter
Wait really? Thank you so much, mate!
@@JayroSenpai no problem cause I'm scared of a all digital future especially with videogames.
Nerrel made a good point about Nintendo and emulation/preservation in his video about Mario 3D All-Stars. He was talking about it would be an insult to suggest that Nintendo isn't capable of bringing older games up into the modern era, but at the same time, we should probably expect them to do better than "us" (the modding/preservation community), because the bar Nintendo would have to pass is not their past selves, but rather, the long-time fans who have 20+ years under their belt now.