In order to avoid getting the label wet, the liquid should be about 1 cm below the top of the brushes. Don't worry, the capillary tension will get the top of the brushes wet enough to clean the whole surface without moistening the label.
Fernando Dias but when you screw out the spindle, the liquid will also get on the lable. I think you should dry the record with the spindle in it. But you need more spindles to dry more records🙈
Yes, I spoilt a few labels at first. Keeping the liquid about 10mm below the top of brushes does the trick. And yes let it dry sufficiently before removing the spindle clump. Works really well. 👍
WARNING! DO NOT USE INCLUDED MIXTURE! I urge you NOT to use the mixture that comes with the cleaner. The mixture leaves a thin layer of something on the record. The record looks nice and shiny after cleaning - however the layer ends up on your stylus like gunk and you'll have to clean your records all over again. Don't get me wrong - I use the cleaner all the time and it does a fine job, with a proper mixture.
I gave into temptation and bought one. Have to say I think its massively overpriced for what it is. I also can't get one of the brushes out of mine to clean, it's stuck solid. Plus, the supplied fluid leaves masses of residue on the record which means you must rinse them well , otherwise you get huge amounts of gunk appearing on your stylus. It's worth about £25 in my humble opinion.
Liquid should be one centimether shy of the top of the brushes. The liquid is no longer available with this product but you can use distilled water and a bit of Tergikleen, a residue-less surfactant record cleaner. Do not use alcohol.
I have an earlier version of one of these, but had to adapt it as it didn't have the turning handle. Been using it for years with just a weak solution of Fairy washing liquid, and i must say the results are outstanding, and to top it off it only cost me a couple of pounds from a car boot..........bargain. Highly recommended.
What I've found is that this thing is great, yes. But the labelprotectors or recordclamp does not protect the label at all. Ruined my first pressing of MJs HIStory because of that. Easy fix for that can be found in any creative store. In german we call it "Moosgummi". Foamy like "paper". Cut out 2 rings after measuring the inner rings inside the labelprotectors (ironicly Knosti seemed to think of that - but they did not put any rubberrings whatsoever in the pack). Also don't re-use the fluid. Use it until it's empty and then continue with homemade solutions. Also try to get hold of another container. One for cleaning and the other one for rinsing with destilled water. Drying with a lindless cloth is also recommended. The airdry-method never worked for me and I live in perfect conditions for air-drying. The mixture it comes with sometimes leaves resedue on the records, almost looks like a snail had a nice walk across the record. It isn't audible but it's clearly to see.
12:21, as it's clearly visible here, using this machine leaves everytime the label border wet. In my experience, after many records washed, 99% I have no damage to the label once dried, but in the remaining 1% I am left with a streaked, stained, discolored edge.
Thanks a lot for a very informative video. Would you say there is big difference between version one and version two of this machine, especially given the price difference? The new version costs almost twice. Thanks in advance. Regards, Ignacio
The 2nd version is much pricier but it is easier to turn the disc in the tank with the hand crank. Also, you can remove the brushes for cleaning. Probably worth the extra expense (given the cost of other cleaning machines.
I have had a look around. And E-Bay are now doing this one as the "Next Generation" Version. Are the Brushes Removable, Because Yours looks like one of the Brushes does not go to the Top. Plus That Handle doesn't look very Strong. So going the Unfortunate Accident that It breaks off. I look for a Replacement one. No such thing excites and no Replacement Kit either. I can't see those clips staying tight for to long and constant tightening will eventually round them off. At £62 every time You break off that Handle of loosen those Clips Is a Bit Much.
I have the same machine , although mine is branded as Vinyl styl, it does clean records good but anti-stat?... nope... no matter how clean you get them they still have pops and crackles from static dust , and the solution gets dirty real quick...
Hiya...the first time I used it, yes, the label did get slightly wet on the very edge. This was because I overfilled the tub. I've since learned to use a little less liquid (I put a marker inside the tub to show me the correct max level to fill to) and since then I've had no problems with wet labels :-)
This new Disco Antistat 2nd generation cleaner is rubbish, I have the 1st generation version and the usual problems with the labels getting wet. So I used an after sale label protector, that didn’t work either, this 2nd version also seaped water on the label and the handle is crap, I have now bought a label coverer called the groovemaster !
I use a mixture of 20% isopropanol and 80% distilled water plus a drop or two of Triton x-100 surfactant. I then rinse in distilled water and leave to air dry.
I bought one ages ago Did Not know that It comes with the Clips and Handle. I always thought It was a DIY job by the ones demonstrating It. I feel cheated now.
YOU MUST BE VERY CAREFUL when using this machine. Although the clean can be ok, YOU do RISK ending up (like I and others have ) with DAMAGED LABELS on several records, using the first generation machine. Not sure if the latest non ultrasonic model remedies that. I hear it's an even worse product. On mine, a solid plastic edge on the casket which clamps the record at both ends rubs on the label in a circular motion as you screw it in. A recipe for disaster, especially if you are unicky to get the label wet, which is likely. I hope knosti do something to remedy this , and the sharp edges and corners on the underside of the white plastic caps at the top-end of each divider on the rack. These too could cause damage to both vinyl and labels. Due to such terrible shortcomings I am now looking for a different machne altogether. Knosti were of no assistance and even admitted to the product damaging labels but claimed that the damage visible in photos I sent them did not match the type of damage on photos of their own they had on archive. All to avoid liability.
I found that there is a HUGE problem with this record cleaner. It is hard for me to believe that no one else has not had the same problem. With the one I bought I found that the brushes, that is the metal strips that hold the brushes together start to rust! ..... So, I will not ever be buying this product again! I mean, who would ever imagine cheap steel would ever rust in water!
In order to avoid getting the label wet, the liquid should be about 1 cm below the top of the brushes. Don't worry, the capillary tension will get the top of the brushes wet enough to clean the whole surface without moistening the label.
Fernando Dias but when you screw out the spindle, the liquid will also get on the lable. I think you should dry the record with the spindle in it. But you need more spindles to dry more records🙈
Yes, I spoilt a few labels at first. Keeping the liquid about 10mm below the top of brushes does the trick. And yes let it dry sufficiently before removing the spindle clump. Works really well. 👍
Yes. And dry off the dead wax with a soft cloth to avoid drips onto the label.
WARNING! DO NOT USE INCLUDED MIXTURE!
I urge you NOT to use the mixture that comes with the cleaner. The mixture leaves a thin layer of something on the record. The record looks nice and shiny after cleaning - however the layer ends up on your stylus like gunk and you'll have to clean your records all over again.
Don't get me wrong - I use the cleaner all the time and it does a fine job, with a proper mixture.
That's the antistatic fluid added to the mixture.
I gave into temptation and bought one. Have to say I think its massively overpriced for what it is. I also can't get one of the brushes out of mine to clean, it's stuck solid. Plus, the supplied fluid leaves masses of residue on the record which means you must rinse them well , otherwise you get huge amounts of gunk appearing on your stylus. It's worth about £25 in my humble opinion.
Liquid should be one centimether shy of the top of the brushes. The liquid is no longer available with this product but you can use distilled water and a bit of Tergikleen, a residue-less surfactant record cleaner. Do not use alcohol.
I have an earlier version of one of these, but had to adapt it as it didn't have the turning handle. Been using it for years with just a weak solution of Fairy washing liquid, and i must say the results are outstanding, and to top it off it only cost me a couple of pounds from a car boot..........bargain. Highly recommended.
Home solutions are strongly discouraged , by those in the know
@@a.o.marcos9555 Fairy Liquid is fine, as long as it's properly rinsed in distilled or deionised water.
What I've found is that this thing is great, yes. But the labelprotectors or recordclamp does not protect the label at all. Ruined my first pressing of MJs HIStory because of that. Easy fix for that can be found in any creative store. In german we call it "Moosgummi". Foamy like "paper". Cut out 2 rings after measuring the inner rings inside the labelprotectors (ironicly Knosti seemed to think of that - but they did not put any rubberrings whatsoever in the pack). Also don't re-use the fluid. Use it until it's empty and then continue with homemade solutions. Also try to get hold of another container. One for cleaning and the other one for rinsing with destilled water. Drying with a lindless cloth is also recommended. The airdry-method never worked for me and I live in perfect conditions for air-drying. The mixture it comes with sometimes leaves resedue on the records, almost looks like a snail had a nice walk across the record. It isn't audible but it's clearly to see.
Could you kindly give me the details of this store?
I`ve just bought one of these record cleaners after watching your excellent video. Thanks for sharing.
12:21, as it's clearly visible here, using this machine leaves everytime the label border wet. In my experience, after many records washed, 99% I have no damage to the label once dried, but in the remaining 1% I am left with a streaked, stained, discolored edge.
Can you use the gen 2 swivel thing on the gen 1?
How to get the broses out to clean those??? Please Help!!!!
How can I clean the goat brush?
Thanks a lot for a very informative video. Would you say there is big difference between version one and version two of this machine, especially given the price difference? The new version costs almost twice. Thanks in advance. Regards, Ignacio
The 2nd version is much pricier but it is easier to turn the disc in the tank with the hand crank. Also, you can remove the brushes for cleaning. Probably worth the extra expense (given the cost of other cleaning machines.
aside from the handy crank, how does this differ from the nearly identical Vinyl Styl Deep Groove Record Washer System?
Spin spin spin the wheel of justice .Good review.
Just ordered mine today thanks m8
love your video, just as Harry does
I have had a look around. And E-Bay are now doing this one as the "Next Generation" Version. Are the Brushes Removable, Because Yours looks like one of the Brushes does not go to the Top. Plus That Handle doesn't look very Strong. So going the Unfortunate Accident that It breaks off. I look for a Replacement one. No such thing excites and no Replacement Kit either. I can't see those clips staying tight for to long and constant tightening will eventually round them off. At £62 every time You break off that Handle of loosen those Clips Is a Bit Much.
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I have the same machine , although mine is branded as Vinyl styl, it does clean records good but anti-stat?... nope... no matter how clean you get them they still have pops and crackles from static dust , and the solution gets dirty real quick...
Hiya...the first time I used it, yes, the label did get slightly wet on the very edge. This was because I overfilled the tub. I've since learned to use a little less liquid (I put a marker inside the tub to show me the correct max level to fill to) and since then I've had no problems with wet labels :-)
I will clean "Dirty Old Town" by the Pogues.
This new Disco Antistat 2nd generation cleaner is rubbish, I have the 1st generation version and the usual problems with the labels getting wet.
So I used an after sale label protector, that didn’t work either, this 2nd version also seaped water on the label and the handle is crap, I have now bought a label coverer called the groovemaster !
Can that groovemaster replace the clamps and be used in the 1st or 2nd gen?
you could use isopropyl when that container runs out, right?
I use a mixture of 20% isopropanol and 80% distilled water plus a drop or two of Triton x-100 surfactant. I then rinse in distilled water and leave to air dry.
I bought one ages ago Did Not know that It comes with the Clips and Handle. I always thought It was a DIY job by the ones demonstrating It. I feel cheated now.
YOU MUST BE VERY CAREFUL when using this machine. Although the clean can be ok, YOU do RISK ending up (like I and others have ) with DAMAGED LABELS on several records, using the first generation machine. Not sure if the latest non ultrasonic model remedies that. I hear it's an even worse product.
On mine, a solid plastic edge on the casket which clamps the record at both ends rubs on the label in a circular motion as you screw it in. A recipe for disaster, especially if you are unicky to get the label wet, which is likely.
I hope knosti do something to remedy this , and the sharp edges and corners on the underside of the white plastic caps at the top-end of each divider on the rack. These too could cause damage to both vinyl and labels.
Due to such terrible shortcomings I am now looking for a different machne altogether. Knosti were of no assistance and even admitted to the product damaging labels but claimed that the damage visible in photos I sent them did not match the type of damage on photos of their own they had on archive.
All to avoid liability.
I have the model 2 and that is a piece of crap. Realy cheap plastic rubbish.
I found that there is a HUGE problem with this record cleaner. It is hard for me to believe that no one else has not had the same problem. With the one I bought I found that the brushes, that is the metal strips that hold the brushes together start to rust! ..... So, I will not ever be buying this product again! I mean, who would ever imagine cheap steel would ever rust in water!
Did you use tapwater? The manual clearly says not to do that.
@@thadarkvenom6011 No tap water, I only use distilled water for my album cleaning.
They will rust if you don't dry them after use. Definitely not ideal but as long as you dab them dry with a towel they will not rust.
Spin Clean MKII - Just get it
U got a wet label there.. :(
Very very slowly
Now in 2024, it costs £80 for this piece of plastic crap.
The Chinese are taking the piss of vinyl record lovers!
not worth it ; i had one ; a complete pain to use and doesn't do the job; better to spend 4 or 500 quid on a proper machine
Set the playback speed to 1.25, this dude is slow
grow tf up worm...