Taking on the Broken Arrow Trail in my AWD
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ค. 2024
- This video is a comprehensive walk through of the broken arrow trail from a modified AWD perspective. (3.5" Lifted Honda Passport on 32.1" tires)
Here's some information that you might find helpful
-This trail is a tourist attraction that is maintained by the Pink Jeep Tours. Show them respect and consideration. Know your limits (your driving skill and your vehicles mechanical limits), so that you don't block the trail.
-Because of the above tip, it's not a good idea to run a large convoy. I'd say run in pairs or three vehicles at the most. I also think it would have been helpful if I had someone along to spot for me, so I also recommend not running this trail alone (for your first time).
-There's no staging (airing down, or meeting up with friends) on the road leading up to Broken arrow. Either find some place before you enter, or get past the gate keeper and find a large area to air down.
-The harder sections are Submarine Rock and the Slick Rock sections of the Devil's Staircase
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NAVIGATION:
00:00 Intro
03:00 Pink Jeep Tours (they maintain the trail)
03:38 First Obstacle
11:36 Submarine Rock (more technical obstacle)
17:37 Slick Rock Section (many obstacles)
24:17 The Devil's Staircase
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I did Broken Arrow in a PHX airport rental Rubicon Jeep 4xe and it was awesome. I got to say, that a Rubicon Jeep out of the box is quite capable. I get the butt clinching feeling going down devil's staircase. But I got to say, I put the Jeep in 4L, pressed the downhill assist button and took my foot off the gas and break. Never touched the break all the way down. I let the engine take me down super slow. I did have a spotter at the bottom. Another experienced jeeper. And I did bottom out on skid plates a couple times on the way down, but thank goodness for skid plates. It is hands down the best Jeep trail in all of Sedona. You should do the 17 mile drive at Monument Valley. Stay at The View!
Your channel is the one I have been looking for. I have a stock 4x4 tundra that I really do not want to modify. I am not a rock crawler, I just want to go on interesting off road adventures that will not damage my vehicle. Thank you for providing this content!
Geez, Jon, how could you have uttered the phrase “with the vehicle weighed down with the wife…”. Natural laws of physics dictate the weight of a wife is negligible in all applications. 😂😂😂😅
I agree, Jon, TFL and Sarah do a great job at their reviews. You fill a nice niche, too! You have a rad balance of informational and adventure. Never change, my man!
Thanks for those kind words Adam!! 🙏
Still LOVE my 2019 Passport for all the reasons you continue to show: a lifted version can be quite capable! Thank you Jon 😊.
Noted and mostly agree regarding your assessment of the TH-cam auto journalists. I am an odd duck I grew up in an import service shop that also built race cars but the brand that we worked on has not been sold United States since he early 1990s there are very few of them still out on the roads so I just drive the right tool for the job. Noot really a fanboy towards anyone make or model. I drive a Jeep Grand Cherokee because I needed something bigger with a slightly more capability than my Ford Bronco Sport and it fit the bill on the day I needed to buy. Now I find myself gravitating towards a 4x4 full-size van as I still need more storage capacity since I’m losing my storage location and I’m full time on the road. Keep up the good work love your assessments of various trails.
Broken Arrow is a real fun little easy to moderate trail. Great content!!
Nobody makes a Honda Passport look more impressive than you Jon! Thanks for steering some of us to a very well built, very capable and fun to drive SUV.
The Passport had to do most of the work, because I’m not the guy to “SEND IT” and risk trail or suspension damage. I guess I’m doing something right since 130k miles with nothing broken from driving over obstacles, but I bet my driving looks lame to a lot of people 🤣 with all the wheel screeching 😂
Sweet run! It looks like your Honda did that without a hiccup but I'm with you that I'd be nervous without an experienced spotter. Wasting Time in The Woods is a hilarious channel and I wasn't surprised that he turned around given stock height with +1" tires, stock skids, and stock bumper. He has done a +3" Ironman lift since then so maybe we will see him have another go.
Wasting time in the Woods actually made it up by driving on the right shoulder! Staying "on trail" of course!
I just discovered that channel. Awesome content and he’s really funny!
Always keep it real =) If your channel blows up and you can get lots of sponsorship from the automotive industry do your best to not change. Its something that makes your channel real, raw, and relatable. Thanks for the great content!
Thanks Lowell!!! I don’t think I’ll ever blow up 😂. Keeping it real means I’m going to offend people and bridges will be burned.
Looks like so much fun! Great vid!
On my bucket list for awhile now...seems like the Passport handle it like a champ!
It handled it pretty decently, but not gonna lie, I was scurred 😂🤣. 2nd time around wouldn’t be nearly as bad, or if I just had someone experienced to spot me. I’ll definitely go back.
@@JonDZ_Adventuring I feel ya there...video never really show how steep an obstacle really is
@@Michael_Tran i drone would probably do the justice, but I was a one man show. The Wife was on tik tok most of the time she was in the passenger seat 🤣
Thanks jondy for always providing good videos with great information. Love the views and keep the videos coming!.
Thanks Joey!!!!! 🙏
Booyah 👊🏽 😁 👍🏽 🇺🇸
Headed out this week in our Maverick Tremor
Beautiful scenery! Thank you for uploading videos.
Thank you 🙏
Duuuuuude! That was intense!! Devil’s Staircase is no joke! 😱
And that freakin’ GoPro!! 😂
Yeah, those pink Jeeps on 6 inch lifts and big tires prove that anything is pretty much just going to side down 😱
Another great adventure showing off what these little Passports can do if pushed. Thank you!
Thanks James!!!!
Well done bro! Some amazing views in Sedona and the Passport handled them great!
Thank you Manny!!
Nice trail review Jon. Hey your wife is a better spotter than mine so there’s that 😂
Another awsome video. That looks like a legit trail!!
Thanks Nick!! This is a fun trail for sure! Well, kinda scary when you don’t know what to expect, but My 2nd go around will be much more fun!
Just did this trail two days ago… absolutely amazing
Did I hear you say your vehicle weighed down with the wife? 😳15:32
This part has me cracking up haha
Weigh and gear 😇
I dont know what was scarier: watching you go down the Devil's Staircase, or watching you on camera telling your wife that you were ignoring her instructions.
Haha! I kind of cringed myself at the footage of me telling my Wife that. I know to her it must have looked like turning driver would be the way to go, but it’s important people see and hear that dipping too deep one way can possibly cause a roll over 😅
I slashed the sidewall on one of my tires on my 04' Disco at the very beginning of Devil's Staircase many years back. I had to back out to change my tire, so I have yet to descend it. Hopefully my next trip
That first part of it was the worse! Big drop and and very sharp! Glad you were able to back out of it. I’m glad the trail wasn’t wet, I think I went on a good day.
Very skilled off roading Jon! And LOVED how you included other creators and of course *credited* them!! It helps to watch one video yet get so many perspectives. I'm renting a Rubicon 4xe in January and I reserved a spot at Soldiers Pass - I am so excited. What is your recommendation for trail GPS apps? I'm thinking of OnX Offroad because it works on CarPlay.
Hey thanks Dips! As far as GPS apps, I really don’t like ONx. The difficulty ratings are not accurate and all the trails on the map are colored blue. I personally research my trails with the TrailsOffroad website and app and then upload things to GAIA GPS, however, TrailsOffroad now works with apple car play.
@@JonDZ_Adventuring Super helpful - you're the man!
Handled like a boss
Haha! Kinda sorta! Thanks!
My left foot was hitting that imaginary brake hard while you were going down that grade 😀
Haha!
Repeat:
No, I don't wanna die!
When kuya Jon is in his Honda Pilot he has 6 balls he ain’t got no worries haha let’s go places in a HONDA!!!
How much in mileage did you lose with the lift & tires?
Lift, nothing noticeable.
Tires, extra weight, and roof mods will make the most difference. Bigger A/T Tires create more friction, roof mods increase wind drag, the extra weight requires more work to maintain same speed. The faster you go, MPGs get exponentially worse. If I cruise at 65 mph, I’ll get 22-23 mpg highway. If I cruise at 75mph I’m getting 17-19 mpg.
I approve of this video and trail 😂👍🏼. You think 20psi was to low? I would usually drop down to 20 on a trail like this but my ground clearance is a little more then urs.
I measured only about a 1/4” loss from airing down to 20 psi
Devil's Staircase was coming across on video as pretty steep which means it must have been very very steep. Normally everything looks pretty mild on video.
It's steeper than it appears on video.
I think Honda should give you the new passport.
Hey! That would be awesome! 😃
Is there any place to add a front facing camera on your vehicle?
Yes, I added one, but I wasn’t using it enough so I repurposed it to a rear bumper camera
Awesome. If only the trailsport had higher ground clearance...then I'd consider getting one. Are those LT rated tires you have on?
Jon, I have been watching you since lock down, how are you not a Brend ambassador for Honda?
Thanks. Going in a few days. Done the bride vail In telluride. Not all the way to black bear..ne subscriber
All that subaru talk lol. Just Remember Jon, I went up Diablo, you could not lol
There wasn’t any Subaru Talk Jason. That guy that runs Driving sports TV does some extremely biased and staged reviews, probably to offset what TFL has to say. I drove up the right side of diablo drop off with light throttle a month prior, but admittedly it wasn’t as rutted compared to when we went. You’re a wild man Jason 😂, you know I won’t use as much skinny pedal.
@@JonDZ_Adventuring just giving you shit bro. I love your content.
I am not your average subaru guy lol
Nice to see your wife with you.
Hey jon love seeing your videos offroading and overlanding especially when you go overlanding together with your friends, and after watching a lots of your videos. I just want to know why you choose AWD cars to go overlanding?
1.) Think about all the driving involved getting to my destinations. 2.) I won’t be happy daily driving a body on frame. 3.) I used to drive a capable 4WD with a rear locker. I realized I wasn’t able to make the compromise for more capability 4.) most 4WDs start breaking one difficulty higher than I currently traverse, I want no part of that.
@@JonDZ_Adventuring aaah, i see. Thanks for letting me know.
Keep it up man🔥
If you do the Moab trails, all jeeping over rock, sand & dirt will make sense, only some mud there in rain or snow season. Moab is the mecca, but, don't do it in summer, way too hot.
I have a number of videos about Moab. Fins N Things was the hardest I drove on, but lots of easier trails out there too.
Ya my 2.5 inch lifted 04 pilots isn’t making it through most of those obstacles but I’m sure I can pass the gatekeeper!
What a beautiful trail! Do you think that it would be a good place for me to take my 2009 Mazda 3?
Yes
btw Ryan might not be left foot braking out of habit with toyotas, on a lot of models touching the brake will disengage the A-Trac mid-obstacle
A stock 4x4 Trd off road Tacoma should be fine here right ?
Good question. At 11:36, most stock 4WDs will scrape, which means if I was scraping on the Devil's staircase, it's quite possible a stock 4WD will scrape as well.
@@JonDZ_AdventuringAwesome man appreciate the reply , gonna try it out in two weeks ! Keep up the great content !
Modern "AWD" vehicles can pass the 3 wheel roller test ... That's all you need to know.
The old AWD system held it's own. No balls needed?
BALLS gets me through a lot of stuff. It’s definitely a game changer, but on this trail, the only time I used it was at Submarine rock, and from the looks of the video, it looks like I braked the wrong wheel 🤣. I was supposed to brake the front passenger, but brakes the front driver instead.
@@JonDZ_Adventuring no doubt it could be helpful. Way to use it on the wrong wheel. Lol Also Grace just doing whatever in the passenger seat while you're on the trial is rather comical.
Why not just get a 4Runner or Wrangler so you don’t need to stress about these really easy trails?
Then I’d have to stress about daily driving a 4runner or Wrangler. Every day life would be a struggle, instead of the 3 hours hanging out on this trail. Also, I’d still have upgrade them to have more ground clearance, so they. don’t scrape going to the submarine rock.
@@JonDZ_Adventuring
Have you looked at the diesel Wrangler? My buddy got one last year. Just the base model and that thing goes pretty much everywhere. He’s taken it all over Moab, and there is so much customization you can do to it. You can set it up for all of your needs. He uses it as a daily as well without any issues at all. He gets great mileage and when it’s time to get dirty it doesn’t miss a beat. No stress. Doesn’t get stuck. Climbs up and down pretty much everything.
@@r.p.8402 I respect Jeeps for their capability and the JL/JT are decent onroad and a better daily than a 4runner BUT the 2 issues I would have is the wind noise and reliability/cost of repair. That’s where Honda/Toyota shine. The new toyota lineup is intriguing. We know the 3.2L v6 is pretty quick.
My plan is to keep the Honda for another 4-6 years and then move onto a quad motor EV, like a Rivian or better.
They’re basically super cars and built and geared for 34” tires stock. Currently get over 300 mile range with a roof top tent and overlanding gear while still doing 0-60 in 3 seconds. It’s crazy. I’d imagine something even better with more range will be available by then.
Subaru is great. I have the forester wilderness. HOWEVER, the cvt LIMITS it in so many ways. That’s a FACT. If I lived out west Subaru wouldn’t be my first choice. I live on east coast. I just need it for snow and to be able to occasionally drive on a sandy beach 😁
this is making me want to mod my rav4 🤪
great video btw!
Another Ew Toober has strong feelings about AWD and off roading.
Not as strong as your feeling Chet head ☺️
@@JonDZ_Adventuring thank you for playing. Goodbye.
lol tfl also hates nissan, they’ll put one in a comparison and it’ll rate higher than everything and they’ll put it in last place
Subaru Sports TV...haha
4th comment! YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Good for you, do you want a cookie 🍪?
@@JonDZ_Adventuring Actually, that sounds really good!
@@OverlandOverloaded what kind of cookie would you like?
@@JonDZ_Adventuring Matcha Macaron.
@@OverlandOverloaded too expensive
You may as well be driving a VW beetle, at least a VW beetle floats. 😮
Attention: at 11:35 overreach01 thinks a Ford F-150, Lexus GX470 , VW Beetle are the same thing. Interesting perception you have there!
Yes I cometwly find the same. DSTV hypes the Subaru, he also downplays Mazdas.
He was on this misinformation crusade comparing every single Subaru and making it beat it’s main competitors.
-Jeep Compass Trailhawk vs. Subaru Forester Wilderness
-Outback wilderness vs. Honda Passport
-Outback wilderness vs. Toyota 4Runner
This was all before he had a video where a Ford Maverick in “normal” mode convincingly beat the Outback Wilderness (that video got no views).
I wouldn’t typically care, but he poses as an actually automotive journalist. It’s just straight up wrong.
@JonDZ_Adventuring cool setup you have. I have a cx30 gt. . Tires on the way but not in time for holidays. Me, tent, dog , cx30 . 3 weeks across BC. So no logging roads this time.
*Why do you laugh at everything you say, even tho its not funny?*
Well, for one, I don’t have a stick up my butt, and two I think you’re making an over exaggeration on something that would be subjective anyway.
I clicked on your channel just to see where you are coming from, and holy crap man 😂. Just PULL IT OUT! You’ll feel better 🤣.