I know you must be bored. This is your 3rd account. The first account was where you spent money, your second account was your f2p account, and then there's this account. You've already said multiple times that you're bored so creating a new account doesn't really make any sense. This new account will be even more boring the 3rd time around. Can you just find a new game already? I would enjoy watching you play a new game more than watching you suffer playing this game over and over again. I can see it in your eyes and in your facial expressions that you're not enjoying yourself but you think this is what your viewers want to see. Maybe you can play some console games. For example, I would enjoy watching you play "Detroit: Becoming Human" or maybe FF7 Remake. You'll be having more fun and we'll be having fun too. You can still review genshin when new characters come out if you really want to but creating an alt account for the 3rd time is just overdoing it.
Obtaining and building characters is more of an end game thing to do. When you're at a low adventure rank you should just focus on playing the game normally.
I started playing the first week of August 2022. I've played for at least a few hours pretty much every day since then. I just finished Enkonomiya two weeks ago.
I introduced one of my friends to Genshin and have been helping them. They ended up getting kuki shinobu really early and ended up liking them a lot. This really opened my eyes to how bad it can be for new players. As she’s locked not only behind the inazuma and the raiden boss, but also the end of the chasm with the ruin serpent. Which is horrendous.
Yeah but this only workedd so well for me bscause my friend basically did all her quests but stayed on AR 30 or 35(can't remember) and didn't ascend which meant she had all the eareas unlocked but her world level was the same as mine so I could always join her. It's not easy finding people at a low AR with a fully unlocked map, I just got lucky
I feel like for newer players, since some characters are literally locked behind a progression wall, they should make a system to where newer players just can't get those characters from pulls at all since they'd be of no use to them at all past lvl 20 or 30. And as the player progresses, like lets say they are nearing the end of Liyue's story and is preparing to travel towards Inazuma, they then unlock the characters for said region.
I wish they had a barter system where we can trade earlier nation ascension materials, like those in Mond and Liyue, with Inazuma and Sumeru materials so we can level up newer characters.
Raiden was my very first pull on my account, I agree wholeheartedly. It took me so long to get to Inazuma and because I loved playing with her I thought Inazuma would be fun but most stuff in Inazuma is immune to Electro lol including her ascension boss
@I Liked A Comment & Accidentally Created A Channel Free units and new dendro addition can easily carry new players. The problem is more than 90% of the new players doesn't know how to build them and they just do unga bunga builds and suffer until some higher ar player helps and explains them how to build characters and teams just like in my beginner day a guy helped me alot to understand this game better. Rest i learned from youtube guides
hey, despite snezhnaya probably going to be like 4 sumerus big, nothing in sumeru is AR gated you could go there i think itll be next to mondstadt so new players might not have trouble with it
I actually didn't feel a lot of these struggles. I was so clueless that I just played it super casually but I grinded the quests hard to find out what happens. Most of my characters were lvl 40 with lvl 20 weapons when I ran out of archon quests after Inazuma 😂 I was AR 43 when i found out I could heal from statue of seven. I had the most fun playing genshin when I was clueless.
I made an account years ago but actually started playing like a week ago. I was clueless about the healing from the Statue of Seven too and discovered it randomly. I got a nice character that heals everyone by using her power and so I can against 30+ level monsters. I only have seven characters and I have plenty too level them up 20+. The only thing that frustrates me are the dialogues, but overall I find it fun.
I actually found the biggest detractor for starting as a new player was how many options you have avalible. While its nice to have so many potential paths, it also makes knowing which one to pick or what to do a huge pain. Id liken it to returning to Destiny 2 at the very end of a season where theres so many quests in your tab or in the tower that it becomes overwhelming. And thats just with 4 regions, and were supposedly gonna get up to 7.
There is also a bunch of AR gated quest :( which makes me want to play something else. For example you need to be AR 40 to do that quest. I hope they fix it, I can't even imagine how new players play in 2024.
Yep I made a new account during cyno banner and ended up getting him them getting nahida and I had to put in countless hours getting through the archon quests just to upgrade them. That sumeru archon quest was ridiculous and I was literally clicking through dialogue for A week straight
People say they’re less concerned with appealing to veteran players by appeasing them with endgame content and are more focused on bringing in newer players (mainly to syphon money out of) but putting the locations for this awful balloon collecting event in later areas like the desert just goes to show how little thought they give about newer players. Oh well, i’m really looking forward to collecting coins in a boat with my endgame characters. Make sure to pull for Alhaitham! He’ll really give you an advantage against those coins!
Kinda new player here (started playing on a regular basis in December 22). At least they placed the final stages of the balloon event in Sumeru (even somewhat new players can reach the locations, you just have to reach the area) and not in Inazuma (an area which you can't enter until you've fulfilled many different story missions and quests). I don't think they did it the ideal way (you basically have to run through three Nations without being able to take your time and explore them) but it could have been worse.
Okay but events and characters also serve to promote the new content. If everything happened in Mondstadt, the public perception would be that Genshin is that BOTW ripoff.
Agree 100%. I'm new player here, played for around 1 month already. I have to grind main storyline to inazuma so that i can level up my raiden and play her and also to join events for the rewards before it runs out. It's very frustrating cause i felt like i've missed a lot of things along the way. I think the best way the dev can do to deal with this problem is to enable player to convert some amount of let say monstradt materials to inazuma/sumeru material every week. That will definitely make the game more enjoyable for new players.
that's a good idea. My brother plays this game only for a few hours and already drop the game. He say it is too much for him and is kinda overwhelming bc he is the type who wants to catch up with the story's progress but the way they make this is not new player friendly. I've noticed this issues long time ago and already mention them in the feedback but I don't think they even read the feedback that the players write to them.
@@aoyamabluemountain3055 They just want to rush everything to be at the same phase as a player that started two years ago, things take time. You’re supposed to play the game as MiHoYo intended to. If I started Genshin now, I’ll be so happy because there are a lot of things to do and I will take my time to enjoy those things, and the game itself. (FREE GAME BTW).
@@apinog8 I feel rushed to get to inazuma to level up Ayato. He's my favorite character and I have him but he's lacking power pretty bad for two weeks now. He's like a humanoid Magikarp using splash against enemies.
Yeah I'm having similar issues. I'm on day 45 and it feels super unbalanced because I pushed for Inazuma to level Raiden. I'm all the way to the boss battles with Raiden but I can't beat level 4 of Spiral Abyss and I've barely done anything in Sumeru. 😭
@@apinog8 Well people have their own ways of playing. Don't you know? This is not free tbh bc this game is designed so that you will spend money to get what you want unless you are super lucky and get a god-tier account. If not, you will suffer the pain of waiting and farming for who knows how long.
Same bro the quests are getting hard woth low level weapons and characters its hard to beat the bosses but thanx to all those maxxed out players who helped me in co-op
As someone who's had an Ayaka since AR 10, (an account where i've just been collecting freemogems from updates etc) I was stuck on a 20/20 Ayaka until AR 30 to unlock Inazuma. It was horrible.
You should have done her test run to get her to level 40. And the whole genshn story from mond to inazuma can be done in less than 30 days I've done it
AR 30 ain't so hard to get - I recently restarted out of boredem and casually been playing for 1 week (1-2 hours a session per 2 days) and got to AR 29 already and I still haven't finished the Liyue Archon Quests or even hard grinded the map yet. I'd say Sumeru characters would be an absolute nightmare to level up.
I feel like they should have a character specific event, which unlocks if you get that character and it teleports you to a separate domain and then it gives you enough material upon finishing to get a character to lvl 60 not including books and mora, as it would be great for new and old players who just got a new character.
I think this problem can be solved by the crafting table mechanics similarly like the weekly boss materials. By farming an early normal boss material and change it with that salt you could buy from paimon, its gonna solved it without any problems. Only downside I could see would be the crystals that you’ll suffer to farm or change it along the boss material.
That takes away the point of the game. Its progressing to build those new characters. If that's the case, why ever leave Mondstad or Liyue? 😏🤣 It would be a very boring game if you could build anyone without even going to that characters area (and costly)
Concern: New players wanting new characters but unable to ascend because they have not opened up their respective areas. The problem is that new players aren't informed of this and thus creating a negative experience when this happens to them. Solution: Create a hovering tool-tip on the banner itself which would tell players if they can play this character immediately or will have to wait until they have unlocked necessary areas. I don't know the details, but you get the gist. It would inform the player what it would take to ascend these characters and give them a choice if they still want to continue to pull for them or not. Something like that. That way, players aren't blindsided with the lack of information.
@@HashMyth No it doesn’t. Literally the only people who would care are those strictly here for the character collection and leveling aspect and even then it’s not a bad idea. Limiting how many things you can trade at a time would be helpful, that way you can still level that character but also still progress the story if you want to level that character faster. Plus who cares anyways. There are so many damn characters and more to come, let people level their characters at the speed they wish.
I personally think there should be more ways to transfer regional items from other items, like say the sakura blooms. You could transfer some philanemo mushrooms and make them into sakura blooms using dust of azoth. Same thing with talent books, enemy drops, and world boss drops. Honestly, I started playing this game exactly a year ago, and I still feel I have missed so many events like the one with Albedo and the first Golden apple archipelago.
Another issue is the missing story archs from the past updates like Archipelago etc. Which can be annoying if you've started recently and wanted to know how the story progresses
@@divinesan7786 true but updates like that alongside other ones will create holes in the complete lore. Being a lore fanatic missing out on the 1st time it was introduced had no clue htf it came about
@divinesan7786 True but missing out Unreconciled Stars affects it as it goes over a really inportant point in the story, and the first time we are introduced to Fischl Oz and Balladeer in the storyline. Should be unlocked after completing Mona's intro questline. Mihoyo should just add the story even if they feel stingy about not giving away a free copy of Fischl that was still hard to grind for. Maybe even have that as a requirement for only getting the 500 primos even
@@Rollerbear712 missing out Unreconciled stars isn’t significant as you will be reintroduced in Inazuma. And Balladeer in that story serves little role ,only thing you know that he is a Harbinger. Mihoyo hands out quite a lot of copy of Fishcl in the past, so idk what stingy you are talking about. It is also not that hard to roll for Fishcl in banner.
@@divinesan7786 "The stars are a lie" is first heard in this event. In Inazuma they act like they know Balladeer from before which is a little off. Still important as we know he'll be a recurring character. Mihoyo were stingy in handing out a copy of Fischl in that event. Some F2P and beginners weren't able to get her. Tbh the recent Golden Archipelago is important as that's the first time we hear Nahida and transitions well to "you're Kusanali aren't you?" in the main story later on, but I'll let that one slide as most of that event wasn't important.
The test run of the characters already give required materials to ascend the character once. I think they should give materials to ascend the character at least twice when Fontaine comes out.
An idea that keeps being thrown around that could work quite well, is a 'travelling vendor' who sells "rare items from other lands". That way, if you pull someone like Raiden Shogun before you can get to Inazuma, you can buy some of the materials that drop from the Thunder Manifestation like Storm Beads that you'll need to ascend her. Even if you can buy a certain amount per week, or a certain amount in total, like the souvenir shop in Mondstadt. Even if they cost resin to buy (I think 15 resin each would be a fair price. 3 would cost 45 resin, 5 more than it would cost to fight the boss itself). As long as you're able to get a character up to level 50 or 60 without having to speed run through the game it would make a huge difference!
At the rate we get materials with how you suggested it i rather just speed run/skip the story for the sake of being able to use the characters i want to use. Open up a spread sheet and mark where this specific character’s materials are
The problem is it could lead to exploits. They would probably have to change the material so it can't be used after a certain level or make it so it can't be bought if you have access to Inazuma, so it wouldn't make fighting the boss useless.
Just started playing about a month ago and I got Raiden. The farming and grind through the story and quests were serious to get her materials. The trial giving materials helped a little but still stuck at level 50 because of lack of Inuzuma play.
Veteran players: the game is too easy because my characters are too powerful which makes the game boring New players: the game is too hard. I can't level up my new characters because the materials are story locked
The Fact that I have an account with Raiden Shogun at AR16. Sucks so bad HAHAHAHAHHA She remains at 20, whil all team goes 50. If there's some feature i want to happened that could be the "Adventure Rank Required Pulls" where you can't pull the character unless you unlock already the region or the AR you need in order to get the character's materials and such. Or, probably a Shop where you can buy a material on specific place. For example, buying ascension materials for Raiden Shogun at Mondstadt at AR16. This way you can fulfill the Character Ascension and at the same time maximizing the full potential for new players.
I started in the last few weeks and it has taken me around 30 hours to get to inazuma, and I've done very little exploring. That could easily double in time if you want to explore everything. Depending on how much someone plays each week, it actually could be months till they get to sumeru.
It took me far longer than that to get to Inazuma. But Sumeru was no issue really. It's not locked behind AR30 like Inazuma is. And the Chasm is even worse, AR40. Sumeru is fine.
It took me literal months (and I play regularly) to finish Inazuma's quests because I just didn't want to do it yet. Thankfully all the characters I was interested in happened to be liyue ones, because i think I would've forced myself otherwise, and it sure ruins the experience...
@@generaltoszur1036 you can but you can't really do much because you're locked behind prerequisite quests and ar level, you can really just grab dendro traveller and not much else.
Been playing for about a month and I'm just now FINALLY able to start uncapping Kuki and she was one of the first characters I got. It's actually insane that there's no way to buy or craft ascend mats for some of these characters.
A simple solution implemented in many games is making new content temporarily avaiable for the duration of the patch for everyone. You will break the flow of the story and all, but you aren't forced to do it anyway, if you really just wanna access the areas and raise your new characters regardless of region, you can, then it gets locked behind story progress again next update and so on
I start playing genshin from december 2022 and i am ar 55 rn. i didn't even realized how much thing i've been through. What matter is when you enjoy the game, it'll feel a lot easier.. even though i only have 3 5 stars for now, this game aren't actually that hard to play (well for me). I quiet enjoy the story and everything about this game, and Sorry my english kinda suck
As someone who started playing a few months ago, I can confirm that this is very spot on with my experience. Especially with my characters being underbuilt for my AR. When I went to start farming artifacts it was extremely difficult to complete the domains, and I would often run out of time or die. You have a big advantage over a new player in that you already know how to build your characters, who will work with who, and the general layout of the plot. After Liyue, just to unlock Inazuma, I had to spend over a week untangling a knot of all the quest that had been locked because they used the same npc, and because there's just so many random side quests that you have to do at that point before Beidou will let you ride her damn boat. And if you're having a hard time with one of those quest because your build or team comp is a little scuffed, well to bad for you. Another thing that I never see talked about is 4 star constellations. If you started around launch, or heck, even 2.0, not only have you had a lot more time to build up your account, but your pulls were also concentrated on a smaller roster of characters. I've got most of the Sumeru and Inazuma 4 stars, and maybe half of those have a constellation or two, but if I could take all those pulls and concentrate them into just half the number of four stars I would have a much stronger roster than I do now with the exact same time investment.
Isn't that something which should go both ways? Imagine this - how can we expect for everything to be fair between a veteran player who has been supporting the game since the very beginning and a new player who just started the game on a whim as he saw a hot character that he liked but ended up liking the game overall( me) to have the same advantage as that of a veteran gamer. Would'nt the veteran gamer feel the same thing like why they spent so much time on the game if they cudve achieved the same thing just by starting the game few weeks back? PS: I started at the end of 3.0
@@akagamidwaterlaw7347 No, it's not an issue of fairness at all. Obviously, you're never going to be able to build up to the same point with vastly less time put in. It's a question of how playable the game is now for a new player vs how playable it _was_ for a veteran player when they were at the same point. Someone starting the game today could stop in Liyue and just do dailys for 6 months to build up their account before moving on to Inazuma and the fact remains that their 4 stars would be significantly less powerful on average than a veteran player would have had at the same point in the game with the exact same time investment. (And that's not to mention that the particular 4 stars that a 1.0 player would have had would be characters like Bennett, Xangling, Fischal, Sucrose, Blue Venti, etc.) A new player is likely to have more of the characters like Sara, Garou, Faru, Dori, and so on, and with fewer constellations. When you're at that point where you're just starting to reach a high AR, and you don't have many 5 stars, that makes a huge difference for clearing content and farming domains. (edited typo)
@@hachikuji_mayoi I'm talking about all the side quest you have to do to even get to that point. You have to do the tournament where you first meet Kazuha first. And you have to do the rebuilding the Jade Chamber quest before you can do that. And you have to do the Fishing for Jade quest before you do _that_, and that's a world quest you have to get from a random npc in Liyue. And there are several world quests that if you've accepted, bit not completed, will lock out the above quests because they involve the same npcs.
Yeah I started in 3.0 and got Kokomi. Couldn't get anything upgraded for a long ass time. Luckily, she's not a DPS but it still took forever before I got to Inazuma. At least Sumeru you can get to right away, but you're not getting those weekly boss mats through story (Scara).
They will probably add something similar to dream solvent but for mats, or a shop with a limited amount of "foreign" goods per week you could spend mora/resin or add to teapot
If they do change the way ascension works they not only gotta leave the characters we own at their max level they also gotta refund all the ascension mats. If they do this we golden
The way I got my Ayato fluorescent fungus is I had a friend I had introduced to Genshin, and they played more than me so they got to inazuma before me even though I played months longer than they had. I did co-op with them in their world but first they had to do a quest chain to even unlock the island. Then the dang mushrooms were so hard to find and currently my ayato is stuck at 50 (however I have inazuma now but keep getting distracted and forgetting to do archon quests which ima do now goodbye youtube)
This was me back when I started playing when first Raiden rerun came out with Kokomi. I was so excited that I pulled her but when it came to leveling her up all the excitement went away lol.
They need a temporary domain where new players could get into to get materials which would be available to them as long as the banner is up. My little niece started playing and got Cyno, Tighnari, Wanderer and some Inazuma characters and they are all stuck at Level 20 I feel sad for her.
That's literally what I am suffering I have just started playing GE 25-30 days ago I tried my luck on Raiden banner and got her but I was so sad that I can't use her because her ascertion material in only available in Inazuma The mostly all good characters I have are only from Inazuma or Sumeru
As someone who started about a month ago, this is an issue. (I wanted to use Kuki Shinobu after I pulled her but couldn’t ascend her) but it’s really not too bad. I definitely love having so much open world still completely unexplored. I like using characters I know that could feasibly be alongside the traveler anyway. I think as long as you don’t take Genshin to seriously and play to enjoy the story, you can jump in at any time and have a lot of fun with the world
You can ascend her with the trial items to 40, that's more than enough to last you until Inazuma. Usually people are level 50-60 by the time they reach Inazuma, not a huge difference. Now, if Kuki is not feature on the banner and you get her randomly from Standard, then tough luck. The reason they give away the materials in the Trial is exactly for this scenario, when people intentionally pull for the 5star or the featured 4 stars. They can use them just fine at level 40 until they reach the required nation
@@MayW15663 Only Inazuma is locked behind Archon Story so far. You can literally pull Nahida and walk into Sumeru and pick up flowers or beat elite bosses if you want to. Since your AR is super low, the enemies will also be low, so there's no issue
I mean, I started my account about 4 months ago, and I really dig that there's so much content. The fact that I am able to not only farm the daily's, the abyss, the events, but I have an incredibly large backlog of archon/world/story/hangout quests that give really good primogem rewards is awesome. I just unlocked Thunder Manifestation, haven't barely touched Sumeru, and I'm AR55, with multiple lvl90 teams. I think the size and scale of the game is a big PLUS - because it's basically free (I will say, I do purchase BP and I've done a few Welkins). But I'm incredibly impressed and thrilled with the pace that Hoyo churns out good content, and I feel like their incentives are good (something like 15-20k primos in this next patch?) It's definitely a grind, but I'm a Destiny veteran (still playing that one too), so grind is what I'm looking for in a game, and this one is top-notch.
Not sure how possible this is, but I guess this issue could be solved by having banners for each region EVERY version. So for example, 4 banners running at the same time with maybe Eula, Xiao, Yoimiya and Nahida. That way no matter where you are in the main story, there’s always someone usable to pull for and maybe even shortens time in between reruns.
They will never do this because it kills hype for characters. Running 4 banners all the time would defeat the purpose of characters being locked behind limited time only banners. That’s how they make their money
I think regional banners is the way to go. They could be unlocked at the same time you unlock that region, and you could focus on a particular banner to build up your 4 stars faster if you wanted.
This may happen when we’re closer to the end of the overall story, but doubt it will happen anytime soon. I agree with Mtashed that they should have some type of transfer system to make it easier. They did it with the billets for the Sumeru weapons, they should do them for the upgrade materials for characters. And then maybe take certain levels of it away as you unlock the new regions, if they’re concerned about something like players fighting Dvalin and then transferring the materials for Sumeru or something.
@@The_Lightless they already have 4 banners per patch,, so they could split it 2/2 being Mondt/Ina in the first half and Liy/Sum in the second half. They have plenty of characters to do it with since they most often release 1 new five star per patch,, so that could always fill the slot for the newest region
Except that that doesn't work for new players who specifically start Genshin because of a new character. Sure, one or two of those can be leveled, but there is a very real possibility that they don't want to pull for a 5 star just because that one can be leveled.
Just started playing last week, And this is tf whats happening to me. Its overwhelming idk where to start and what to do first, Im currently AR 29,I just started second archon quest, Idk if im doing it right lol😅. Hopefully I sort it out,
I think a neat solution for this would either be regional rotations for characters (Monstadt banner, Liyue banner, etc.) or a "you completed this archon quest, now you get a banner to roll on for a week" banner.
Agree 100%. I'm a new player that pulled Kamisato Ayato (my first 5 star) as soon as he went up. Came to find out I couldn't ascend him because I had just started Liyue. Still havent gotten to Inazuma because of how long the Archon quest takes.
Hell, I started in 2.0 and ran into that with Ayaka. Had to bench her for a week or two until I could get to Inazuma, and then it still took a while to get her caught up to wherever my other used characters were at the time. It's just going to get worse and worse as time goes on. They need to add a vendor in Mondstadt that sells ascension/talent materials from the other regions. Make it a bit more expensive than if you were to get those materials naturally, say 20 resin plus 20K mora for a batch of books just like if your were to go to a domain. Or have them trade with you. Have it cost mora and something else, on top of whatever you're trading in. Dust of Azoth can stay the way it is, because the 'cost' is that you spent your primos to wish and get stardust. Something. Anything, really.
Gosh!!! This is so true. New player here.. been three weeks. i've got nahida from wishes but WHAT THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO DO?? I'm not strong enough to go to sumeru. This is crazy. Luckily i have a friend who already lv 90. He literally carrying me and help me farming for material. I can't beat a single hypotases/regisvyne without his help.
I've been playing for around 3 months, and I agree with what you are saying about being a bit overwhelming. Realistically could ascend to over AR level 45 but my characters just aren't strong enough yet because I still have heaps of farming to do. So far, the main ones I use are level 60 but I'm grinding to get a few of them to level 70 before I ascend.
Yeah, I started recently and got 2 characters I really liked from Inazuma. But they quickly became underleveled bc I couldn't ascend them until Inazuma at least. So instead of "enjoying the journey" and taking my time, I had to drop everything else and grind the archon quest to get there. Ironically, the Archon quest also levels up your AR really fast. If it were me advising them, I'd have an international merchant in Liyue that sells just enough region/boss materials for 1 ascension for each character you own from Inazuma or later (updates whenever you get a new one), so they can all ascend passed lvl 40 without worrying about rushing to that region. That would let them match the lvl 50 enemies at world level 35, unlock all the core features of the game, and be able to stop there bc of the ascension quest as long as they need to to complete the geo archon quest and get access to Inazuma.
I started playing Genshin since like the 3th of January and I can say it's so fun and I got a lot of progress so far although it's enough, so I'll have to keep it going, like rn I'm AR31+, and yea I was only able to do this thanks to your tips broo, and this video also just helped me to learn something new, and please keep making more of this guides. Thank you 👊
I pulled for Raiden on my new account only because I already had Xiangling and I knew I could build her to at least C3 (with the upcoming free 4* and spiral abyss) whilst waiting to get to Inazuma but that's only because I knew the mechanics of the game and what would work best for me moving forward. If you're unaware, you're kinda screwed, unless you *really* want to grind and not everyone does...
This is exactly me right now. Just started about 3 weeks ago. AR24, and just started watching videos. Getting massive anxiety trying to pick players to use and I feel like I have to level up new characters to see if they can help or not, but end up wasting materials then.
this game's success despite its lacklustre content just shows that in terms of characters they got the community by the balls .. people have spend so much time and or money getting and upgrading them despite the fact there is nothing to do with those max out 5 stars , i for one would invest alot more time and maybe even resources if i could log into to genshin talk to people on my friends list and go beat mission together and talk about team comps and stuff,. dafuq do i look like farming primos half a year or spend over 150 euros to have 80 summon or whatever it is just so i can once amonth do the abyss ,the only end game or 10 min aday doing dailies and lets be honest no one does abyss for fun its to get the primos u need and keep it moving .. its a shame its such a miss i feel cuz the character part is awesome everything else is just pointless waste of time.. new region comes out u quickly knock out all the quest cuz they dont challenge ur mechanical skill neither do they test ur intellectual strenght nor do they touch u on a emotional level and if it does u are simply easily impressed cuz ive been gaming for 2 decades now and can safely say with no bias this aint nothing special in any sense of the word and so u just skip dialog to not waste time ..all they test is ur patience to not fall asleep as the endless waves of texts keep bombarding u. i dont mind reading alot but i do mind reading alot of shit pointless talk which is all this game has the dialog is so bland and basic one wonders why even bother . new region does not count as content cuz its masquerades itself as such but its just a different version of the shit u already know, the reality is its just to make us look away from the issue sure its pretty to walk around a place u havent being before and see chest beating enemies with ur overpowered max out charecters aint even a challenge its simply pass time.. games can do it all in terms of art yet nowadays its just to pass time. after u take a stroll around the new region and collected the chests for their primos u have nothing else to do but dailies and wait for content , the cycle repeats itself. if they just use a tiny bit of the billions theyy made with banners to give us some content to keep coming back to it with proper co op experience that allows for a actual play session other than 10 min of pointless daily commission a new born baby could do it if u hand them a keyboard and mouse. heck add modding in the game and let pc guys do it for them some of the most fun i ever had gaming was playying modes with people that other people made. whales cant even brag about their things either yh its dope u have all the character r5 c6 max out but what do u do with them ?: if anything its like shooting yourself in the foot cuz now u have these max out characters that can one shot everything and so the result is that u knock out the little content u can do every day even quicker and can spend even less time playing.,, its like that meme where the guy uses a he-man sword to cuts his toast bread or the rich kid that convince his parrents to buy a fully customized over 5k gaming pc with the best specs to play .. minecraft... idk on and on its such a miss cuz other games are full or content that is arguably not the best but u can atleast always play always chase after something but they are usually severely lacking in proper characters that people genuinely like. if players invest so much when the game is this dead then imagine if it was full of life and content.. but iguess thats why im not a developer in our day and age my plan dont involve f-ing people in the anus whilst takiung there money and laughing at them cuz apparently thats the only thing devs do nowadays. i for one wont keep applauding mediocrity and i feel like people forgot how to use their voice cuz it matters, ppl now just seem to chose between the lesser evil.. all games suck and are designed to screw u and ppl seem to have accepted that and just choose one they like for what it is not for what it could be. its better than sitting in a room starring at a wall am i right.. at this point gaming as a art form is so far from what it could be that the change required to reverse the dmg the last 10 yrs did to gaming may be too much to heal. and ppl wont fight with their wallets anymore in fact they encourage this sort of trash by buying things like living in a pile of shit instead of leaving for a better tommorw a better game they buy blankets and decoration so the shit atleast looks pretty so devs wont care either cuz money is being made so i see no end to this shit..
There is a special ascension tab in Fate Grand Order the mobile game where nee player can ascend the new characters for free till lvl 80/90 but it can only be one character. A feature like that will definitely help.
I started playing in mid november 2022 and I've never encountered this problem. I managed to finish the archon quests in 2 months and save up for the character I want so I already have every boss unlocked except everything related to Enkanomiya yet. If new players know what they want and their character is not on banner yet, it is not a huge deal for now with early regions.
feel you. i think one of the major improvement is that the quest is not AR gated. and also the skip button is so useful for players not to get burnt up by the never ending discussion of the quests
Yeah I started a year ago and already ran into that problem. My first character was Ayato and second Ayaka, I think I got Ayato when I just unlocked Inazuma so I thought great this shouldn t take too long...but realistically it took me forever to level both. As even exploring Inazuma took a while to unlock the required bossess, to unlock Raiden Shogun story quest (for that to make sense you have to finish archo quests) and finish it(Ayato s talent boss material)... Honestly it left me with a bit of too much grind that I almost did not even enjoy anymore. Since than I almost never pull for new characters and rather focus on reruns coz I dont wanna repeat the grind of those months. I dont wanna be forced to complete story quests adn archon quests just so I can build my character.
I've thought this since early days of Genshin and I've always wanted an NPC kind of like Liben that comes round once a week with 2 lots of 3 random boss materials. May not be for the character you get but least it saves feeling crazy pressure to play the character you got.
Fuck randomized boss materials, just let me get what i want from the trader. We already suffer through getting the perfect Artifacts why do people like torturing themselves by adding more RnG???
I started with the Yae Miko event in November. First thing I did was get my dendro main by rushing over after beating the prolouge. I pulled Yae miko and Jean. So with xiangling after rushing spiral abyss I am now wl 47 after 2 months. I've had zero issues with level 40 Yae Miko up until farming her materials. The plan was don't get hit.
It took me 5 or 6 weeks to get to Inzauma after starting in late October last year. I did a lot of exploring and about half the world quests of each region so far. Getting Raiden was the goal and I ended up getting her. With more regions coming out in the next few years... new players will be overwhelmed for sure. It can be easy to burn out on games like this, almost happened to me.
Im loving the game as a new player, did the beginner wish and got Noelle of course with the first 10 pull and then did it again when had enough wish shit and got Barbara! But I keep getting distracted with all the stuff everywhere and keep going oh ya gotta do the story shit to progress further lol
Personally, I'm honestly kinda jealous of new players. To be able to explore, discover and experience everything for the first time is such an amazing feeling that I wish I could have, again.
@@jeronimomontalvo7587 I wanted to keep reading all the dialogue because the writing is good, but they just have to insist on repeating themselves over and over or saying the same thing three different ways, that burned me out on reading the dialogue
IMO just starting Sumeru. There is so much content that i think maybe it have been better just not play this game at all. Too much side quests and other stuff to do. Great I started 2.5 years ago, but 1month ago... Just too much.
Had this problem all the way back when raiden came out I got really lucky and got her in my first ever 10 pool but couldn't use after a while cause I didn't know where her accension material was and I was still in Mondstat
I agree completely. What should be done is add a system similar to Fate’s clear prisms. As you progress organically through the game you’ll obtain a special material that allows you to gain access to later ascension materials that you might not have otherwise. This takes a lot of stress off new players having to rush through story just to be able to use their beloved characters.
Quite funny that you mention it. I'm a "new" player (created Account in November 22 but didn't play on a regular basis until December 22. Version 3.3 was the first update for me. A friend of mine said that I should pull on the Raiden Banner because of how strong Raiden was. Another Friend mentioned that I wouldn't be able to upgrade her until much later. So I considered saving my primos foor 3.4 and the speculated Rerun of the Hu Tao Banner (I am awful at playing with characters that use bows (way too clunky for me) and wanted another pyro character). Friend A didn't like that idea and said that I should at least spend 10 or 20 fates because nobody knows when/ if Raiden would get another Rerun. Then I managed to pull Xiangling out of my Noelle Banner. She replaced Amber on my team and the main reason for saving primos (needing another pyro character) was gone. So I spent some fates on the Raiden Banner instead. 40 intertwined fates to be exact. However, I didn't pull Raiden even once. Instead I pulled -Qiqi (who has become a valuable part of my team) - Sara x2 and Rosaria So, in the end, being unable to go to Inazuma didn't even matter because I didn't get Raiden in the first place. xD
I started a year ago, just playing casually with the default Lumine, Lisa, Amber and Barbara (all leveling materials found in Mondstat) got me through everything. I only started working on other characters last month because I farmed a good amount of items over the time. My advice to new players is, work on the default characters to get through the main story, open the whole map, catch up to latest content. I found the best time to level characters is when you complete everything and are just waiting for the next update. My main team I switched to a few weeks ago is Ei, Nahida, Yanfei and Mona from 4 respective regions. By the time I wanted a real damaging team I at least had hoarded enough resources to level them up a bit, took me 2 weeks to get 4 characters geared and leveled, could have been faster but I am casual.
Terrible advice, the reason a lot of people play is for the characters they like, why would you ever say "hey yeah so if you wanna play with the character you like just farm for these four default character that you might not care about."
i said this and i will say it again, there NEEDS to a system to trade items from other regions and it being a 1-1 trade, its stupid af the fact that its not even a thing yet. its visible that its already hard for new players, just imagining how it will be in the future is scary.
I think this is something that’s only a problem for Inazuma characters. Sumeru’s introduction is the dawn of them no longer gating character leveling, which actually creates other problems. The problems it creates all revolve around late game players, so no one will care… until/or if they reach late game. Hoyo doesn’t care because they make their money from new players mostly.
@@asri1361 I mean, I guess. If thats the case though, one could say that you have to play for hours to get to the first boss (Davalin) that drops talent materials and weeks to complete leveling them. Like, at some point there has to be progression
I remember starting Genshin mid april or so last year and I zoomed through Mondstadt and Liyue within one week. I was desperate to upgrade my Raiden Shogun, who was one of my best characters back then, + I had no idea how to efficiently build characters. And then I had to go through AN ENTIRE WORLD QUEST to get that one ascention material from Seirei?? Island... but my characters weren't built enough to even do well at the boss, because again, I was new and didn't know a thing. Luckily a friend helped my low level a** to collect the materials, or I would have struggled even more. It was a mess.
I think the point of the game is for us not to be able to speedrun it… and I think the best part of it being daunting is that if you’re a newbie, then you literally have an endless process to go through, plus the fact that the game is still progressing. I think what GI can do is to have a trade system where they can buy or trade their materials to the ones they need so they could shorten the period of maxing out a 5 star character they wished for. (I’m also curious about the animé they’re doing)
Yeah some kind of trading system would be amazing. I was thinking of making a fresh account but kinda hesitating because I know I won't be able to use certain characters without progressing through the story again
My friends and I are talking about this exactly. Maybe they should include more in the character trial. Enough mats to maybe boost the character to level 30~40 which I think should be enough though there's also talent materials.
that is exactly what happened to me :)) I started, got some cool characters, had to farm the chasm, inazuma or the desert.....basically they stood on the bench while my diluc took charge along side lisa, barbara and dori.
The most annoying thing is the "first complete the prerequisite quest" BS throughout the main story. You literally have to do minor side quests just because a certain npc or character is busy with another quest. Main quest should just flow smoothly without the constant interruptions.
That’s quite a valid concern. One minor solution they put out is probably the limited time events, which give you weapon and talent materials. But boss materials and artifacts are still gated by progression and sometimes even main quests
I also created a new account and you're right about the events. It's difficult to go to places where the events at with your low AR and underlevelled characters. But other than that, just take your time to finish each region before going on to another.
I did that mistake when i started playing there was not really much youtuber talking about anything. When i got new character and it was not from Monstradt i rushed the story to get their location to farm because i wanted to play with new character. The worst when u get a character from Inazuma because u cant go inazuma without story (or with some bug) Lyue and Sumeru its okay you can go there without story.
I think Genshin in a way is special this way because the story is progressive, like a real journey. So it makes sense that the characters you get along the way also are. New players ofc would be recommended to pull for the rerun character instead of the newer one.
As a new player, wanderer was my first 5 star (technically I also had Mona from standard) all my other characters were the free ones or from the beginner banner (I got wanderer 2nd 10 pull so I didn't really get 4 stars from that). This was a serious problem for me, because, even when I ran to sumeru to get books and level materials, I couldn't get the weekly boss talent materials for wanderer. I was AR 50, over 2 months into the game, when I could start increasing the talent level of my only main DPS character. Yes, I probably could have mained traveler, but I didn't really know how the team comps worked when I got wanderer and he could fly so I chose him. It made the game kinda really annoying bc I constantly felt like I was wasting time and falling behind my world rank because weeks were passing without me fighting the weekly boss I needed
I started playing before this was a problem. But i kinda like the idea of materials being locked to a far away region. It adds a sense off achivment and challange to get there. Makes them feel like they are trully from there. Idk i just kinda like the idea of having a charather laying around that suddenly unlocks with a region. Also makes people use the starter characters more.
i see your point and i agree to an extent, there's defs something to be said about having characters in your back pocket that later on you're like "oh i can use him now? Cool" it can double as a nice surprise and as a goal to work towards, the problem with this though, is that it only works if the game gives you other things to play around with in the mean time. Depending on your luck in pulls you might get a bunch of characters who all cant be used early game and get bored quickly, OR you might get 1 or 2 that you cant use early game, then a few that you can use in the mean time. If you ask me i think its part of hoyo's system to get peeps to spend, cuz if you have battle pass and welkin, your influx of characters is gonna be much faster thus you'd have more shit to play around with while the late game characters sit on the bench for later
@@KuroTheDesigner delaying the ability to use a character because it’s materials to upgrade are in a different region is dumb. I suffered through the 50/50 of getting/not getting them let me use them right now, let me trade items to get their materials. It is why i don’t recommend Fate Grand Order to people, not only bcuz it is dated, but because some Servants need materials from Part 2 chapter 5 to upgrade past their first ascension.
@@goofballjim6167 tbf fgo now gives daily tickets to exchange for materials that you have no access to(though the 3 options rotate per month) plus events shops also provide a ton of them and there's this new white mana prism thing you get each time you clear a story quest that you can exchange for any existing materials in the current patch so yeah. If a newbie fgo player pulled a lost belt 5 character they would be able to max ascend that character after chapter 3 since they'll have enough white prism thingys to exchange for the mats 👍
You can just do the trial and it gives you everything you need to get them to lvl 40. Which is good enough for a while. Also it’s literally just inazuma because it’s not connected to the mainland. And oh no, you have to play the game and can’t sprint to the end!
I started playing genshin pretty early on. Like idk somewhen around spring/summer 2021. I really enjoyed playing the gam, but stopped playing for some random reason. I don´t remember why. I started playing again in summer 2022, which basically means I was like a new player. And I did not play regulary. I don´t even think that I played every week. I had forgotten so many things. Like for example the wish system. So I only played with the not leveled up characters, that where for free or which I pulled from the banners in 2021. I kinda got stuck at AR12. Pretty low level lol. It obviouesly took me years to level up. A thing that really confused me, and still confuses me now, are the artifacts. I can´t really remember if they explain how they work, but I always have the struggle to give characters artifacts. I never know which artifact is best for which character. Where do you see which artifact is for which element? Thus I have weak characters, can´t do a lot domains. I´m also not the most aggressive player, which makes it not easyer lol. Therefore I also have struggle to ascend characters, weapons or level up talents. I´m now AR42 and still have no Idea.
Old players lacking content: "Hoyoverse don't care about us!" New players having a lot of content: "I feel bad for new players!" There's just nothing right for some people..
Imagine if you start playing in version 5.3 or something and you have to go through all the nations to reach natlan and level up characters that would suck
Sure, I can pretty relate to the struggles. I just started like one and half months ago, it's pretty hard to catch up the event and characters. But, LUCKILY, MY FIRST 5 STAR IS KEQING, which I don't really need to farming lots to ascend her. Although I kinda want to got another character who I like more (nahida, ayato, raiden, kokomi), but Keqing as my first 5 star is pretty good as I don't really need to actually go Inazuma first.
This is so true, I started mid-August and it took me over a month to get to Inazuma. I haven't even finished the quest line yet because I keep getting distracted by leveling up my characters pulling for new ones doing other things in the game like the chasm apparently and all the other stuff. I really need to get it together lol.
If you're a new player, don't worry about building your characters. Unless you're building for the sake of building, you can beat the current overworld, all the way to Sumeru even with level one characters. Even if you're f2p, and you decide to dropany character that reaches level 2 characters, it has been done. So no, your characters being stuck at level 20 for awhile will not make the game unplayable.
While not easily Available to everyone I think there’s a way if you have a friend that’s been playing. Join their world(they might have to lower their world level in order for you to come in) and farm whatever. Mind you m, a huge work around for something that can be more easily fixed by like a local specialty seller in the first region that sell every local specialty for mora.
that was my big issue when i started. one of the first 4star characters i pulled was Thoma. he wasnt on banner, so was locked at level 20 for a long while. to the point that he fell so far behind that he was dropped in favor of characters that i could ascend and do talents for.
I started in like 2.6 and it was frustrating because I wanted to use sayu, but she was capped at lvl 20 A0 while all my other characters where an ascension ahead, I ended up rushing the story quest, at the expense of levels, and was able to get the upgrade materials, but then I had to go back and farm to lvl my characters since I had mostly been ignoring the resin mechanic till then. I wonder if they will introduce a liyue/monstadt wish, that's just those characters reruns, and then you unlock inazuma/sumeru wishes at a higher AR, like I think AR 28 is what you need to get into inazuma, could also help with expanded character roster to add more banners
When I started playing I azuma was released and I got the little girl that spins and moves fast on the map, but I could not ascend her. That is when I stopped playing the game. Never touched it ever since but I continued to watch your videos cuz they are fun.
an idea that i've had in my head that i think the game would benefit from would be some sort of merchant that you can buy regional items (including boss drops) from! like maybe it changes depending on the day of week like talent books. so you can raise your characters without having to run across the map just to level them past 40.
I also had a similar struggle when i started the game 6 months ago but fortunately i lost 50/50 on ayaka's banner and got diluc instead He carried me all the way to ar 46 and i had no problem with catching up with the content
Unfortunately, these gatcha games aren't designed to be around for decades, like mmorpgs. They generate hype and players for 2-3 years, peak (some time around Sumeru/Fontaine for Genshin), then ride that invested/addicted veteran base for 2-3 more years. By the end of Snezhnaya, the dev team will be down to 3 guys, as Hoyo shifts focus to other games. It's harsh to say, but they're basically peak-efficiency pump-and-dumps.
I started playing genshin impact like 30days back with zero knowledge and it was a bit confusing. But then I got introduced to your channel and it helped. Its a lot of fun now. Its not that difficult ig.
Lmao I started playing past october. First 5star: Raiden Banner 4stars: Rosaria , Sayu, Sara. Got the 3 and c3 for Sara Extra: Gorou Yeah, I couldn't use Raiden or Inazuma characters in 3 months.
I think another big issue as a new player is the material scarcity, because there are so many quest than before that getting to ar 55 or 45 doesnt take as much time as before but the material drop rates are the same as, while creating a new account the problem i faced was the trasure hoarder drops were so low and u have to fight so many of them and they are scattered throughout the map, another problem is the crystal(hydro, cryo, pryo crystals etc) things run out so fast that i was forced to do weekly bosses that i didnt want to do because they drop these crystals, and they cost 30-60 resin which is a lot because u lvl up so fast that ur resin and the materials drops cant keep up. I think they need to up the drop rate of these materials at low level.What makes it worse is that when ur a new player u dont know how to manage these materials or which characters to level up u can waste a days, weeks of resin the make so little room for mistake for a casual game.
This is super refreshing, because when I found your channel I was on like level 17 and you were at a point where you were waiting on things to open to have something to do. You were way past explaining as was everyone else who streamed this game and I was level 45+ before I figured out exactly what you are talking about right now. I really wish you had a Beginners Playlist that explained the things you were talking about a year ago so I could have watched your content and learned, instead of having crap characters that were higher levels.. :(
I personally am on the new side of being a player. I’ve been playing for a little of a month and I just made it to Inazuma about a week ago. There’s a whole bunch of domains that I really want to unlock but I do know that they are still request an icon quest I feel like you get so distracted and you forget what you’re doing so you end up not getting what you were planning on getting done like I learned this when I was in liyue. So pretty much what I learned is that when I see enemies even if they’re just like Hilichurls, I’ll fight them just so I can get the materials for Ascension and weapon extension but sometimes I do end up getting distracted like there’s a quest that I have been needing to get done and I’ll just go look to level up some artifacts and then I’ll see a raiden. I can send her, so let me go and then I’ll end up going back to Inazuma and I won’t go to where I need to go for a quest ;-;
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Hey that's me. A new player. I started in August - help lol 😁
Nah I'll wait higan eruthyll instead
I know you must be bored. This is your 3rd account. The first account was where you spent money, your second account was your f2p account, and then there's this account. You've already said multiple times that you're bored so creating a new account doesn't really make any sense. This new account will be even more boring the 3rd time around.
Can you just find a new game already? I would enjoy watching you play a new game more than watching you suffer playing this game over and over again. I can see it in your eyes and in your facial expressions that you're not enjoying yourself but you think this is what your viewers want to see. Maybe you can play some console games. For example, I would enjoy watching you play "Detroit: Becoming Human" or maybe FF7 Remake. You'll be having more fun and we'll be having fun too. You can still review genshin when new characters come out if you really want to but creating an alt account for the 3rd time is just overdoing it.
Obtaining and building characters is more of an end game thing to do.
When you're at a low adventure rank you should just focus on playing the game normally.
Imagine your first 5 star character is yae miko or shenhe and you needa beat all of enkonomiya to level them up
@DragnBlaze yae and shenhe still worse probably
don't we need like ar 50 or something to get there. maybe i'm just crazy tho
I started playing the first week of August 2022. I've played for at least a few hours pretty much every day since then. I just finished Enkonomiya two weeks ago.
@@kavinbala8885I don’t think anything is AR 50 locked yet I’m pretty sure everything is 40-45s.
a new player doesn't think that way.. you only think that way because you already experienced that..
Yae and Shenhe were the two units that opened everyone's eyes to this issue
I introduced one of my friends to Genshin and have been helping them. They ended up getting kuki shinobu really early and ended up liking them a lot. This really opened my eyes to how bad it can be for new players. As she’s locked not only behind the inazuma and the raiden boss, but also the end of the chasm with the ruin serpent. Which is horrendous.
Had the same situation with sayu and kuki, but I just joined my friends world and pillaged
Well you should of known that when you introduces one of your friends to this shit of a game
@@Kholanee i actually never thought about that. I guess joining others worlds is the way to go.
Yeah but this only workedd so well for me bscause my friend basically did all her quests but stayed on AR 30 or 35(can't remember) and didn't ascend which meant she had all the eareas unlocked but her world level was the same as mine so I could always join her. It's not easy finding people at a low AR with a fully unlocked map, I just got lucky
I feel like for newer players, since some characters are literally locked behind a progression wall, they should make a system to where newer players just can't get those characters from pulls at all since they'd be of no use to them at all past lvl 20 or 30. And as the player progresses, like lets say they are nearing the end of Liyue's story and is preparing to travel towards Inazuma, they then unlock the characters for said region.
I wish they had a barter system where we can trade earlier nation ascension materials, like those in Mond and Liyue, with Inazuma and Sumeru materials so we can level up newer characters.
There is using the crafting table
@@thewhutnow5795 no there isnt
Not a MMO
@@cranjismcbball there is
you will get parametric transformer too!
We desperately need a skip dialogue option. Also a gadget wheel that works.
Some dialouge has some animations. Characters walking but they could easily add it in. Odd that they dont
For real. Or add reading speed. I'm done reading before they're halfway through the dialogue 😞
literally
And mute Paimon
Fr I hate the dialogue
Raiden was my very first pull on my account, I agree wholeheartedly. It took me so long to get to Inazuma and because I loved playing with her I thought Inazuma would be fun but most stuff in Inazuma is immune to Electro lol including her ascension boss
yea and the inzuma weather sucksssss i hate it there as a newbie
@@stormauror2642 you will love it if you area cryo main
@I Liked A Comment & Accidentally Created A Channel not really , the free ones are good enough to clear the overworld once you build them properly
@I Liked A Comment & Accidentally Created A Channel Free units and new dendro addition can easily carry new players. The problem is more than 90% of the new players doesn't know how to build them and they just do unga bunga builds and suffer until some higher ar player helps and explains them how to build characters and teams just like in my beginner day a guy helped me alot to understand this game better. Rest i learned from youtube guides
@ilacaacac3069nah fr it doesn’t matter if u can’t build that 5 star right now fr u can get someone u like and build them later on
imagine when snezhnaya is unlocked and you just get a new character from that region but you still at ar15, that's definitly bruh moment
Imagine new player's collecting : 800 cryoculus
While they still roaming around in Mondstad 💀💀
it will probably be ar gated
hey, despite snezhnaya probably going to be like 4 sumerus big, nothing in sumeru is AR gated you could go there i think itll be next to mondstadt so new players might not have trouble with it
happened to me im ar12 and already got furina
I actually didn't feel a lot of these struggles. I was so clueless that I just played it super casually but I grinded the quests hard to find out what happens. Most of my characters were lvl 40 with lvl 20 weapons when I ran out of archon quests after Inazuma 😂 I was AR 43 when i found out I could heal from statue of seven. I had the most fun playing genshin when I was clueless.
playing this game clueless was worth the experience
That's the best way to play it. That's how I played the game too, it was fun 🤷♂️ way better than the grind culture being pushed by TH-camrs imo.
Bro, that is next level clueless
Maybe I need to yeet this video and go in blind. Just downloaded it last night. Never played it before...
I made an account years ago but actually started playing like a week ago. I was clueless about the healing from the Statue of Seven too and discovered it randomly. I got a nice character that heals everyone by using her power and so I can against 30+ level monsters. I only have seven characters and I have plenty too level them up 20+. The only thing that frustrates me are the dialogues, but overall I find it fun.
I actually found the biggest detractor for starting as a new player was how many options you have avalible. While its nice to have so many potential paths, it also makes knowing which one to pick or what to do a huge pain. Id liken it to returning to Destiny 2 at the very end of a season where theres so many quests in your tab or in the tower that it becomes overwhelming. And thats just with 4 regions, and were supposedly gonna get up to 7.
luckly the only important thing to do is to save fragile resin until ar 40, but this game is massive and it's easy to get lost
Haven't watched yet but it's probably you can't build newer characters without going through endless hours of story.
Yae mats need to going through whole enkanomiya quest. cmiiw, but it's not even a main story lol
There is also a bunch of AR gated quest :( which makes me want to play something else. For example you need to be AR 40 to do that quest.
I hope they fix it, I can't even imagine how new players play in 2024.
Yep I made a new account during cyno banner and ended up getting him them getting nahida and I had to put in countless hours getting through the archon quests just to upgrade them. That sumeru archon quest was ridiculous and I was literally clicking through dialogue for A week straight
@@B-Str0 I feel so bad for people who actually care about story now that sumeru is a thing
The story I's the best bit man
People say they’re less concerned with appealing to veteran players by appeasing them with endgame content and are more focused on bringing in newer players (mainly to syphon money out of) but putting the locations for this awful balloon collecting event in later areas like the desert just goes to show how little thought they give about newer players. Oh well, i’m really looking forward to collecting coins in a boat with my endgame characters. Make sure to pull for Alhaitham! He’ll really give you an advantage against those coins!
Kinda new player here (started playing on a regular basis in December 22).
At least they placed the final stages of the balloon event in Sumeru (even somewhat new players can reach the locations, you just have to reach the area) and not in Inazuma (an area which you can't enter until you've fulfilled many different story missions and quests). I don't think they did it the ideal way (you basically have to run through three Nations without being able to take your time and explore them) but it could have been worse.
Okay but events and characters also serve to promote the new content. If everything happened in Mondstadt, the public perception would be that Genshin is that BOTW ripoff.
@@roadrunner9332 NA or EU?
To be fair the balloon collecting event was a lot of fun
@Racool i’m surprised you think so. Personally, i prefer actually using the characters i’ve pulled for and invested heaps of resin into
Agree 100%. I'm new player here, played for around 1 month already. I have to grind main storyline to inazuma so that i can level up my raiden and play her and also to join events for the rewards before it runs out. It's very frustrating cause i felt like i've missed a lot of things along the way. I think the best way the dev can do to deal with this problem is to enable player to convert some amount of let say monstradt materials to inazuma/sumeru material every week. That will definitely make the game more enjoyable for new players.
that's a good idea. My brother plays this game only for a few hours and already drop the game. He say it is too much for him and is kinda overwhelming bc he is the type who wants to catch up with the story's progress but the way they make this is not new player friendly. I've noticed this issues long time ago and already mention them in the feedback but I don't think they even read the feedback that the players write to them.
@@aoyamabluemountain3055 They just want to rush everything to be at the same phase as a player that started two years ago, things take time. You’re supposed to play the game as MiHoYo intended to. If I started Genshin now, I’ll be so happy because there are a lot of things to do and I will take my time to enjoy those things, and the game itself. (FREE GAME BTW).
@@apinog8 I feel rushed to get to inazuma to level up Ayato. He's my favorite character and I have him but he's lacking power pretty bad for two weeks now. He's like a humanoid Magikarp using splash against enemies.
Yeah I'm having similar issues. I'm on day 45 and it feels super unbalanced because I pushed for Inazuma to level Raiden. I'm all the way to the boss battles with Raiden but I can't beat level 4 of Spiral Abyss and I've barely done anything in Sumeru. 😭
@@apinog8 Well people have their own ways of playing.
Don't you know? This is not free tbh bc this game is designed so that you will spend money to get what you want unless you are super lucky and get a god-tier account. If not, you will suffer the pain of waiting and farming for who knows how long.
I just started playing 2 weeks ago and you are literally describing the struggle that I have been living.
oh gosh i hope u do have fun tho the most important thing is to have fun and enjoy the game but of course its a struggle we have to face
Same bro the quests are getting hard woth low level weapons and characters its hard to beat the bosses but thanx to all those maxxed out players who helped me in co-op
Same
Bro I play this game way too much. I started half way through December and I’m ar 46💀💀💀
@@june4994 the game blocks you from that
As someone who's had an Ayaka since AR 10, (an account where i've just been collecting freemogems from updates etc) I was stuck on a 20/20 Ayaka until AR 30 to unlock Inazuma. It was horrible.
Ayaka was my first 5 star in ar 20 it was pain indeed had to use razor to fight raiden 💀
You should have done her test run to get her to level 40. And the whole genshn story from mond to inazuma can be done in less than 30 days I've done it
AR 30 ain't so hard to get - I recently restarted out of boredem and casually been playing for 1 week (1-2 hours a session per 2 days) and got to AR 29 already and I still haven't finished the Liyue Archon Quests or even hard grinded the map yet. I'd say Sumeru characters would be an absolute nightmare to level up.
I did it in 5 days and now on day 7 i am ar40( considering i opened semeru on 3rd day without archon quest)
same i got scara also but i cant even level them up
I feel like they should have a character specific event, which unlocks if you get that character and it teleports you to a separate domain and then it gives you enough material upon finishing to get a character to lvl 60 not including books and mora, as it would be great for new and old players who just got a new character.
This
I think level 60 is a bit much
I think this problem can be solved by the crafting table mechanics similarly like the weekly boss materials. By farming an early normal boss material and change it with that salt you could buy from paimon, its gonna solved it without any problems. Only downside I could see would be the crystals that you’ll suffer to farm or change it along the boss material.
No.
That takes away the point of the game.
Its progressing to build those new characters.
If that's the case, why ever leave Mondstad or Liyue? 😏🤣
It would be a very boring game if you could build anyone without even going to that characters area (and costly)
Concern: New players wanting new characters but unable to ascend because they have not opened up their respective areas. The problem is that new players aren't informed of this and thus creating a negative experience when this happens to them.
Solution: Create a hovering tool-tip on the banner itself which would tell players if they can play this character immediately or will have to wait until they have unlocked necessary areas. I don't know the details, but you get the gist. It would inform the player what it would take to ascend these characters and give them a choice if they still want to continue to pull for them or not. Something like that. That way, players aren't blindsided with the lack of information.
@@HashMyth No it doesn’t. Literally the only people who would care are those strictly here for the character collection and leveling aspect and even then it’s not a bad idea.
Limiting how many things you can trade at a time would be helpful, that way you can still level that character but also still progress the story if you want to level that character faster.
Plus who cares anyways. There are so many damn characters and more to come, let people level their characters at the speed they wish.
@@bo8411 why-
I personally think there should be more ways to transfer regional items from other items, like say the sakura blooms. You could transfer some philanemo mushrooms and make them into sakura blooms using dust of azoth. Same thing with talent books, enemy drops, and world boss drops. Honestly, I started playing this game exactly a year ago, and I still feel I have missed so many events like the one with Albedo and the first Golden apple archipelago.
Another issue is the missing story archs from the past updates like Archipelago etc. Which can be annoying if you've started recently and wanted to know how the story progresses
Story from lets say Golden Archipelago has nothing related to the main storyline so missing it kinda sucks but won’t affect anything.
@@divinesan7786 true but updates like that alongside other ones will create holes in the complete lore. Being a lore fanatic missing out on the 1st time it was introduced had no clue htf it came about
@divinesan7786 True but missing out Unreconciled Stars affects it as it goes over a really inportant point in the story, and the first time we are introduced to Fischl Oz and Balladeer in the storyline. Should be unlocked after completing Mona's intro questline. Mihoyo should just add the story even if they feel stingy about not giving away a free copy of Fischl that was still hard to grind for. Maybe even have that as a requirement for only getting the 500 primos even
@@Rollerbear712 missing out Unreconciled stars isn’t significant as you will be reintroduced in Inazuma. And Balladeer in that story serves little role ,only thing you know that he is a Harbinger. Mihoyo hands out quite a lot of copy of Fishcl in the past, so idk what stingy you are talking about. It is also not that hard to roll for Fishcl in banner.
@@divinesan7786 "The stars are a lie" is first heard in this event. In Inazuma they act like they know Balladeer from before which is a little off. Still important as we know he'll be a recurring character. Mihoyo were stingy in handing out a copy of Fischl in that event. Some F2P and beginners weren't able to get her. Tbh the recent Golden Archipelago is important as that's the first time we hear Nahida and transitions well to "you're Kusanali aren't you?" in the main story later on, but I'll let that one slide as most of that event wasn't important.
The test run of the characters already give required materials to ascend the character once. I think they should give materials to ascend the character at least twice when Fontaine comes out.
An idea that keeps being thrown around that could work quite well, is a 'travelling vendor' who sells "rare items from other lands".
That way, if you pull someone like Raiden Shogun before you can get to Inazuma, you can buy some of the materials that drop from the Thunder Manifestation like Storm Beads that you'll need to ascend her.
Even if you can buy a certain amount per week, or a certain amount in total, like the souvenir shop in Mondstadt. Even if they cost resin to buy (I think 15 resin each would be a fair price. 3 would cost 45 resin, 5 more than it would cost to fight the boss itself). As long as you're able to get a character up to level 50 or 60 without having to speed run through the game it would make a huge difference!
That’s a good idea
hoyoverse pls hire this man
At the rate we get materials with how you suggested it i rather just speed run/skip the story for the sake of being able to use the characters i want to use. Open up a spread sheet and mark where this specific character’s materials are
The problem is it could lead to exploits. They would probably have to change the material so it can't be used after a certain level or make it so it can't be bought if you have access to Inazuma, so it wouldn't make fighting the boss useless.
Just started playing about a month ago and I got Raiden. The farming and grind through the story and quests were serious to get her materials. The trial giving materials helped a little but still stuck at level 50 because of lack of Inuzuma play.
Veteran players: the game is too easy because my characters are too powerful which makes the game boring
New players: the game is too hard. I can't level up my new characters because the materials are story locked
Meanwhile Necrit, a new player that uses a lv 40 Yelan against lv 70 enemies: This game's pretty easy it would be cool if they added a hard gamemode.
Bruh
The Fact that I have an account with Raiden Shogun at AR16. Sucks so bad HAHAHAHAHHA She remains at 20, whil all team goes 50. If there's some feature i want to happened that could be the "Adventure Rank Required Pulls" where you can't pull the character unless you unlock already the region or the AR you need in order to get the character's materials and such. Or, probably a Shop where you can buy a material on specific place. For example, buying ascension materials for Raiden Shogun at Mondstadt at AR16. This way you can fulfill the Character Ascension and at the same time maximizing the full potential for new players.
I started in the last few weeks and it has taken me around 30 hours to get to inazuma, and I've done very little exploring. That could easily double in time if you want to explore everything. Depending on how much someone plays each week, it actually could be months till they get to sumeru.
It took me far longer than that to get to Inazuma. But Sumeru was no issue really. It's not locked behind AR30 like Inazuma is. And the Chasm is even worse, AR40. Sumeru is fine.
Cant you just go to sumeru before inazuma
It took me literal months (and I play regularly) to finish Inazuma's quests because I just didn't want to do it yet. Thankfully all the characters I was interested in happened to be liyue ones, because i think I would've forced myself otherwise, and it sure ruins the experience...
@@generaltoszur1036 you can but you can't really do much because you're locked behind prerequisite quests and ar level, you can really just grab dendro traveller and not much else.
30 h ??? imposable
I smell skipping button
Been playing for about a month and I'm just now FINALLY able to start uncapping Kuki and she was one of the first characters I got. It's actually insane that there's no way to buy or craft ascend mats for some of these characters.
A simple solution implemented in many games is making new content temporarily avaiable for the duration of the patch for everyone. You will break the flow of the story and all, but you aren't forced to do it anyway, if you really just wanna access the areas and raise your new characters regardless of region, you can, then it gets locked behind story progress again next update and so on
I start playing genshin from december 2022 and i am ar 55 rn. i didn't even realized how much thing i've been through. What matter is when you enjoy the game, it'll feel a lot easier.. even though i only have 3 5 stars for now, this game aren't actually that hard to play (well for me). I quiet enjoy the story and everything about this game, and Sorry my english kinda suck
As someone who started playing a few months ago, I can confirm that this is very spot on with my experience. Especially with my characters being underbuilt for my AR. When I went to start farming artifacts it was extremely difficult to complete the domains, and I would often run out of time or die. You have a big advantage over a new player in that you already know how to build your characters, who will work with who, and the general layout of the plot. After Liyue, just to unlock Inazuma, I had to spend over a week untangling a knot of all the quest that had been locked because they used the same npc, and because there's just so many random side quests that you have to do at that point before Beidou will let you ride her damn boat. And if you're having a hard time with one of those quest because your build or team comp is a little scuffed, well to bad for you.
Another thing that I never see talked about is 4 star constellations. If you started around launch, or heck, even 2.0, not only have you had a lot more time to build up your account, but your pulls were also concentrated on a smaller roster of characters. I've got most of the Sumeru and Inazuma 4 stars, and maybe half of those have a constellation or two, but if I could take all those pulls and concentrate them into just half the number of four stars I would have a much stronger roster than I do now with the exact same time investment.
Isn't that something which should go both ways? Imagine this - how can we expect for everything to be fair between a veteran player who has been supporting the game since the very beginning and a new player who just started the game on a whim as he saw a hot character that he liked but ended up liking the game overall( me) to have the same advantage as that of a veteran gamer. Would'nt the veteran gamer feel the same thing like why they spent so much time on the game if they cudve achieved the same thing just by starting the game few weeks back?
PS: I started at the end of 3.0
you don't have to do the side quests at beidou's ship actually. She stands on the boat and you can just talk to her immediately.
@@akagamidwaterlaw7347 No, it's not an issue of fairness at all. Obviously, you're never going to be able to build up to the same point with vastly less time put in. It's a question of how playable the game is now for a new player vs how playable it _was_ for a veteran player when they were at the same point.
Someone starting the game today could stop in Liyue and just do dailys for 6 months to build up their account before moving on to Inazuma and the fact remains that their 4 stars would be significantly less powerful on average than a veteran player would have had at the same point in the game with the exact same time investment. (And that's not to mention that the particular 4 stars that a 1.0 player would have had would be characters like Bennett, Xangling, Fischal, Sucrose, Blue Venti, etc.) A new player is likely to have more of the characters like Sara, Garou, Faru, Dori, and so on, and with fewer constellations.
When you're at that point where you're just starting to reach a high AR, and you don't have many 5 stars, that makes a huge difference for clearing content and farming domains.
(edited typo)
@@hachikuji_mayoi I'm talking about all the side quest you have to do to even get to that point. You have to do the tournament where you first meet Kazuha first. And you have to do the rebuilding the Jade Chamber quest before you can do that. And you have to do the Fishing for Jade quest before you do _that_, and that's a world quest you have to get from a random npc in Liyue. And there are several world quests that if you've accepted, bit not completed, will lock out the above quests because they involve the same npcs.
Not being able to do a quest cuz an npc is involved in another quest is one of the most annoying things lol
Yeah I started in 3.0 and got Kokomi. Couldn't get anything upgraded for a long ass time. Luckily, she's not a DPS but it still took forever before I got to Inazuma.
At least Sumeru you can get to right away, but you're not getting those weekly boss mats through story (Scara).
they will change either how ascension works or make the mats more accessible. they always do it especially in honkai impact 3
They will probably add something similar to dream solvent but for mats, or a shop with a limited amount of "foreign" goods per week you could spend mora/resin or add to teapot
If they do change the way ascension works they not only gotta leave the characters we own at their max level they also gotta refund all the ascension mats. If they do this we golden
The way I got my Ayato fluorescent fungus is I had a friend I had introduced to Genshin, and they played more than me so they got to inazuma before me even though I played months longer than they had. I did co-op with them in their world but first they had to do a quest chain to even unlock the island. Then the dang mushrooms were so hard to find and currently my ayato is stuck at 50 (however I have inazuma now but keep getting distracted and forgetting to do archon quests which ima do now goodbye youtube)
This was me back when I started playing when first Raiden rerun came out with Kokomi. I was so excited that I pulled her but when it came to leveling her up all the excitement went away lol.
At least doing so many quests is better than just looking at your screen for abyss reset and logging in everyday to do comms and logging out
They need a temporary domain where new players could get into to get materials which would be available to them as long as the banner is up. My little niece started playing and got Cyno, Tighnari, Wanderer and some Inazuma characters and they are all stuck at Level 20 I feel sad for her.
😆 😂 😆 😂
That's literally what I am suffering
I have just started playing GE 25-30 days ago
I tried my luck on Raiden banner and got her but I was so sad that I can't use her because her ascertion material in only available in Inazuma
The mostly all good characters I have are only from Inazuma or Sumeru
As someone who started about a month ago, this is an issue. (I wanted to use Kuki Shinobu after I pulled her but couldn’t ascend her) but it’s really not too bad. I definitely love having so much open world still completely unexplored. I like using characters I know that could feasibly be alongside the traveler anyway.
I think as long as you don’t take Genshin to seriously and play to enjoy the story, you can jump in at any time and have a lot of fun with the world
It’s not too bad now, but imagine when we’re 7 regions in and a new player gets a bunch of characters from the newest regions.
@@MayW15663 you can walk to most of them, only inazuma is locked but the rest are part of the mainland
You can ascend her with the trial items to 40, that's more than enough to last you until Inazuma. Usually people are level 50-60 by the time they reach Inazuma, not a huge difference.
Now, if Kuki is not feature on the banner and you get her randomly from Standard, then tough luck. The reason they give away the materials in the Trial is exactly for this scenario, when people intentionally pull for the 5star or the featured 4 stars. They can use them just fine at level 40 until they reach the required nation
@@MayW15663 Only Inazuma is locked behind Archon Story so far. You can literally pull Nahida and walk into Sumeru and pick up flowers or beat elite bosses if you want to. Since your AR is super low, the enemies will also be low, so there's no issue
@@Gennosuke1983 thats only if they dont lock stuff behind archon quests again which they will probably do
I mean, I started my account about 4 months ago, and I really dig that there's so much content. The fact that I am able to not only farm the daily's, the abyss, the events, but I have an incredibly large backlog of archon/world/story/hangout quests that give really good primogem rewards is awesome. I just unlocked Thunder Manifestation, haven't barely touched Sumeru, and I'm AR55, with multiple lvl90 teams.
I think the size and scale of the game is a big PLUS - because it's basically free (I will say, I do purchase BP and I've done a few Welkins). But I'm incredibly impressed and thrilled with the pace that Hoyo churns out good content, and I feel like their incentives are good (something like 15-20k primos in this next patch?) It's definitely a grind, but I'm a Destiny veteran (still playing that one too), so grind is what I'm looking for in a game, and this one is top-notch.
Not sure how possible this is, but I guess this issue could be solved by having banners for each region EVERY version. So for example, 4 banners running at the same time with maybe Eula, Xiao, Yoimiya and Nahida. That way no matter where you are in the main story, there’s always someone usable to pull for and maybe even shortens time in between reruns.
They will never do this because it kills hype for characters. Running 4 banners all the time would defeat the purpose of characters being locked behind limited time only banners. That’s how they make their money
I think regional banners is the way to go. They could be unlocked at the same time you unlock that region, and you could focus on a particular banner to build up your 4 stars faster if you wanted.
This may happen when we’re closer to the end of the overall story, but doubt it will happen anytime soon. I agree with Mtashed that they should have some type of transfer system to make it easier. They did it with the billets for the Sumeru weapons, they should do them for the upgrade materials for characters. And then maybe take certain levels of it away as you unlock the new regions, if they’re concerned about something like players fighting Dvalin and then transferring the materials for Sumeru or something.
@@The_Lightless they already have 4 banners per patch,, so they could split it 2/2 being Mondt/Ina in the first half and Liy/Sum in the second half. They have plenty of characters to do it with since they most often release 1 new five star per patch,, so that could always fill the slot for the newest region
Except that that doesn't work for new players who specifically start Genshin because of a new character. Sure, one or two of those can be leveled, but there is a very real possibility that they don't want to pull for a 5 star just because that one can be leveled.
Just started playing last week, And this is tf whats happening to me. Its overwhelming idk where to start and what to do first, Im currently AR 29,I just started second archon quest, Idk if im doing it right lol😅. Hopefully I sort it out,
I think a neat solution for this would either be regional rotations for characters (Monstadt banner, Liyue banner, etc.) or a "you completed this archon quest, now you get a banner to roll on for a week" banner.
Agree 100%. I'm a new player that pulled Kamisato Ayato (my first 5 star) as soon as he went up. Came to find out I couldn't ascend him because I had just started Liyue. Still havent gotten to Inazuma because of how long the Archon quest takes.
Hell, I started in 2.0 and ran into that with Ayaka. Had to bench her for a week or two until I could get to Inazuma, and then it still took a while to get her caught up to wherever my other used characters were at the time. It's just going to get worse and worse as time goes on.
They need to add a vendor in Mondstadt that sells ascension/talent materials from the other regions. Make it a bit more expensive than if you were to get those materials naturally, say 20 resin plus 20K mora for a batch of books just like if your were to go to a domain.
Or have them trade with you. Have it cost mora and something else, on top of whatever you're trading in. Dust of Azoth can stay the way it is, because the 'cost' is that you spent your primos to wish and get stardust.
Something. Anything, really.
Same , but c6 rosaria helped a lot then i had to start a new account just to get kuki shinobu and run to the chasm for that annoying serpent
Gosh!!! This is so true. New player here.. been three weeks. i've got nahida from wishes but WHAT THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO DO?? I'm not strong enough to go to sumeru. This is crazy. Luckily i have a friend who already lv 90. He literally carrying me and help me farming for material. I can't beat a single hypotases/regisvyne without his help.
I've been playing for around 3 months, and I agree with what you are saying about being a bit overwhelming. Realistically could ascend to over AR level 45 but my characters just aren't strong enough yet because I still have heaps of farming to do. So far, the main ones I use are level 60 but I'm grinding to get a few of them to level 70 before I ascend.
Yeah, I started recently and got 2 characters I really liked from Inazuma. But they quickly became underleveled bc I couldn't ascend them until Inazuma at least. So instead of "enjoying the journey" and taking my time, I had to drop everything else and grind the archon quest to get there. Ironically, the Archon quest also levels up your AR really fast.
If it were me advising them, I'd have an international merchant in Liyue that sells just enough region/boss materials for 1 ascension for each character you own from Inazuma or later (updates whenever you get a new one), so they can all ascend passed lvl 40 without worrying about rushing to that region. That would let them match the lvl 50 enemies at world level 35, unlock all the core features of the game, and be able to stop there bc of the ascension quest as long as they need to to complete the geo archon quest and get access to Inazuma.
I started playing Genshin since like the 3th of January and I can say it's so fun and I got a lot of progress so far although it's enough, so I'll have to keep it going, like rn I'm AR31+, and yea I was only able to do this thanks to your tips broo, and this video also just helped me to learn something new, and please keep making more of this guides.
Thank you 👊
I pulled for Raiden on my new account only because I already had Xiangling and I knew I could build her to at least C3 (with the upcoming free 4* and spiral abyss) whilst waiting to get to Inazuma but that's only because I knew the mechanics of the game and what would work best for me moving forward. If you're unaware, you're kinda screwed, unless you *really* want to grind and not everyone does...
This is exactly me right now. Just started about 3 weeks ago. AR24, and just started watching videos. Getting massive anxiety trying to pick players to use and I feel like I have to level up new characters to see if they can help or not, but end up wasting materials then.
this game's success despite its lacklustre content just shows that in terms of characters they got the community by the balls .. people have spend so much time and or money getting and upgrading them despite the fact there is nothing to do with those max out 5 stars , i for one would invest alot more time and maybe even resources if i could log into to genshin talk to people on my friends list and go beat mission together and talk about team comps and stuff,. dafuq do i look like farming primos half a year or spend over 150 euros to have 80 summon or whatever it is just so i can once amonth do the abyss ,the only end game or 10 min aday doing dailies and lets be honest no one does abyss for fun its to get the primos u need and keep it moving .. its a shame its such a miss i feel cuz the character part is awesome everything else is just pointless waste of time.. new region comes out u quickly knock out all the quest cuz they dont challenge ur mechanical skill neither do they test ur intellectual strenght nor do they touch u on a emotional level and if it does u are simply easily impressed cuz ive been gaming for 2 decades now and can safely say with no bias this aint nothing special in any sense of the word and so u just skip dialog to not waste time ..all they test is ur patience to not fall asleep as the endless waves of texts keep bombarding u. i dont mind reading alot but i do mind reading alot of shit pointless talk which is all this game has the dialog is so bland and basic one wonders why even bother . new region does not count as content cuz its masquerades itself as such but its just a different version of the shit u already know, the reality is its just to make us look away from the issue sure its pretty to walk around a place u havent being before and see chest beating enemies with ur overpowered max out charecters aint even a challenge its simply pass time.. games can do it all in terms of art yet nowadays its just to pass time. after u take a stroll around the new region and collected the chests for their primos u have nothing else to do but dailies and wait for content , the cycle repeats itself.
if they just use a tiny bit of the billions theyy made with banners to give us some content to keep coming back to it with proper co op experience that allows for a actual play session other than 10 min of pointless daily commission a new born baby could do it if u hand them a keyboard and mouse. heck add modding in the game and let pc guys do it for them some of the most fun i ever had gaming was playying modes with people that other people made. whales cant even brag about their things either yh its dope u have all the character r5 c6 max out but what do u do with them ?: if anything its like shooting yourself in the foot cuz now u have these max out characters that can one shot everything and so the result is that u knock out the little content u can do every day even quicker and can spend even less time playing.,, its like that meme where the guy uses a he-man sword to cuts his toast bread or the rich kid that convince his parrents to buy a fully customized over 5k gaming pc with the best specs to play .. minecraft... idk on and on its such a miss cuz other games are full or content that is arguably not the best but u can atleast always play always chase after something but they are usually severely lacking in proper characters that people genuinely like. if players invest so much when the game is this dead then imagine if it was full of life and content.. but iguess thats why im not a developer in our day and age my plan dont involve f-ing people in the anus whilst takiung there money and laughing at them cuz apparently thats the only thing devs do nowadays. i for one wont keep applauding mediocrity and i feel like people forgot how to use their voice cuz it matters, ppl now just seem to chose between the lesser evil.. all games suck and are designed to screw u and ppl seem to have accepted that and just choose one they like for what it is not for what it could be. its better than sitting in a room starring at a wall am i right.. at this point gaming as a art form is so far from what it could be that the change required to reverse the dmg the last 10 yrs did to gaming may be too much to heal. and ppl wont fight with their wallets anymore in fact they encourage this sort of trash by buying things like living in a pile of shit instead of leaving for a better tommorw a better game they buy blankets and decoration so the shit atleast looks pretty so devs wont care either cuz money is being made so i see no end to this shit..
There is a special ascension tab in Fate Grand Order the mobile game where nee player can ascend the new characters for free till lvl 80/90 but it can only be one character. A feature like that will definitely help.
I started playing in mid november 2022 and I've never encountered this problem. I managed to finish the archon quests in 2 months and save up for the character I want so I already have every boss unlocked except everything related to Enkanomiya yet. If new players know what they want and their character is not on banner yet, it is not a huge deal for now with early regions.
feel you.
i think one of the major improvement is that the quest is not AR gated.
and also the skip button is so useful for players not to get burnt up by the never ending discussion of the quests
Which quest? A ton of quests, the archon quest in particular are AR gated.
Yeah I started a year ago and already ran into that problem. My first character was Ayato and second Ayaka, I think I got Ayato when I just unlocked Inazuma so I thought great this shouldn t take too long...but realistically it took me forever to level both. As even exploring Inazuma took a while to unlock the required bossess, to unlock Raiden Shogun story quest (for that to make sense you have to finish archo quests) and finish it(Ayato s talent boss material)... Honestly it left me with a bit of too much grind that I almost did not even enjoy anymore. Since than I almost never pull for new characters and rather focus on reruns coz I dont wanna repeat the grind of those months. I dont wanna be forced to complete story quests adn archon quests just so I can build my character.
I've thought this since early days of Genshin and I've always wanted an NPC kind of like Liben that comes round once a week with 2 lots of 3 random boss materials. May not be for the character you get but least it saves feeling crazy pressure to play the character you got.
Fuck randomized boss materials, just let me get what i want from the trader. We already suffer through getting the perfect Artifacts why do people like torturing themselves by adding more RnG???
I started with the Yae Miko event in November. First thing I did was get my dendro main by rushing over after beating the prolouge. I pulled Yae miko and Jean. So with xiangling after rushing spiral abyss I am now wl 47 after 2 months. I've had zero issues with level 40 Yae Miko up until farming her materials. The plan was don't get hit.
It took me 5 or 6 weeks to get to Inzauma after starting in late October last year. I did a lot of exploring and about half the world quests of each region so far. Getting Raiden was the goal and I ended up getting her. With more regions coming out in the next few years... new players will be overwhelmed for sure. It can be easy to burn out on games like this, almost happened to me.
Im loving the game as a new player, did the beginner wish and got Noelle of course with the first 10 pull and then did it again when had enough wish shit and got Barbara! But I keep getting distracted with all the stuff everywhere and keep going oh ya gotta do the story shit to progress further lol
Personally, I'm honestly kinda jealous of new players. To be able to explore, discover and experience everything for the first time is such an amazing feeling that I wish I could have, again.
That's when you read all the dialogs and pay attention to paimon and don't skip the cut scenes
@@jeronimomontalvo7587 I wanted to keep reading all the dialogue because the writing is good, but they just have to insist on repeating themselves over and over or saying the same thing three different ways, that burned me out on reading the dialogue
That's wierd lol it's so many games out here why would you want to feel like a new player again on one game
I just downloaded the mobile today and it is amazing af 😂😂
IMO just starting Sumeru. There is so much content that i think maybe it have been better just not play this game at all. Too much side quests and other stuff to do. Great I started 2.5 years ago, but 1month ago... Just too much.
Had this problem all the way back when raiden came out I got really lucky and got her in my first ever 10 pool but couldn't use after a while cause I didn't know where her accension material was and I was still in Mondstat
I agree completely. What should be done is add a system similar to Fate’s clear prisms. As you progress organically through the game you’ll obtain a special material that allows you to gain access to later ascension materials that you might not have otherwise. This takes a lot of stress off new players having to rush through story just to be able to use their beloved characters.
Quite funny that you mention it.
I'm a "new" player (created Account in November 22 but didn't play on a regular basis until December 22. Version 3.3 was the first update for me. A friend of mine said that I should pull on the Raiden Banner because of how strong Raiden was.
Another Friend mentioned that I wouldn't be able to upgrade her until much later. So I considered saving my primos foor 3.4 and the speculated Rerun of the Hu Tao Banner (I am awful at playing with characters that use bows (way too clunky for me) and wanted another pyro character).
Friend A didn't like that idea and said that I should at least spend 10 or 20 fates because nobody knows when/ if Raiden would get another Rerun.
Then I managed to pull Xiangling out of my Noelle Banner. She replaced Amber on my team and the main reason for saving primos (needing another pyro character) was gone.
So I spent some fates on the Raiden Banner instead. 40 intertwined fates to be exact.
However, I didn't pull Raiden even once.
Instead I pulled
-Qiqi (who has become a valuable part of my team)
- Sara x2
and Rosaria
So, in the end, being unable to go to Inazuma didn't even matter because I didn't get Raiden in the first place. xD
I started a year ago, just playing casually with the default Lumine, Lisa, Amber and Barbara (all leveling materials found in Mondstat) got me through everything. I only started working on other characters last month because I farmed a good amount of items over the time.
My advice to new players is, work on the default characters to get through the main story, open the whole map, catch up to latest content. I found the best time to level characters is when you complete everything and are just waiting for the next update. My main team I switched to a few weeks ago is Ei, Nahida, Yanfei and Mona from 4 respective regions. By the time I wanted a real damaging team I at least had hoarded enough resources to level them up a bit, took me 2 weeks to get 4 characters geared and leveled, could have been faster but I am casual.
Terrible advice, the reason a lot of people play is for the characters they like, why would you ever say "hey yeah so if you wanna play with the character you like just farm for these four default character that you might not care about."
i said this and i will say it again, there NEEDS to a system to trade items from other regions and it being a 1-1 trade, its stupid af the fact that its not even a thing yet. its visible that its already hard for new players, just imagining how it will be in the future is scary.
I think this is something that’s only a problem for Inazuma characters. Sumeru’s introduction is the dawn of them no longer gating character leveling, which actually creates other problems.
The problems it creates all revolve around late game players, so no one will care… until/or if they reach late game. Hoyo doesn’t care because they make their money from new players mostly.
I think ur forgetting Chasm and enkanomiya
@@asri1361 enkanomiya is Inazuma. I don’t even think the requirements for the Chasm underground requires Inazuma progression
@@asri1361 I mean, I guess. If thats the case though, one could say that you have to play for hours to get to the first boss (Davalin) that drops talent materials and weeks to complete leveling them.
Like, at some point there has to be progression
I remember starting Genshin mid april or so last year and I zoomed through Mondstadt and Liyue within one week. I was desperate to upgrade my Raiden Shogun, who was one of my best characters back then, + I had no idea how to efficiently build characters. And then I had to go through AN ENTIRE WORLD QUEST to get that one ascention material from Seirei?? Island... but my characters weren't built enough to even do well at the boss, because again, I was new and didn't know a thing. Luckily a friend helped my low level a** to collect the materials, or I would have struggled even more. It was a mess.
I think the point of the game is for us not to be able to speedrun it… and I think the best part of it being daunting is that if you’re a newbie, then you literally have an endless process to go through, plus the fact that the game is still progressing. I think what GI can do is to have a trade system where they can buy or trade their materials to the ones they need so they could shorten the period of maxing out a 5 star character they wished for. (I’m also curious about the animé they’re doing)
Yeah some kind of trading system would be amazing. I was thinking of making a fresh account but kinda hesitating because I know I won't be able to use certain characters without progressing through the story again
Trade system? Just join games and ask nicely if you can pick some flowers or fish
@@shion551 true. Although I remember trying to join for some dandelions. More than half of the ppl in co op declined to let me join :/
My first five star was wanderer💀
Those god damned mushrooms and the flying boss wasted 2 weeks of my life trying to reach...
My friends and I are talking about this exactly. Maybe they should include more in the character trial. Enough mats to maybe boost the character to level 30~40 which I think should be enough though there's also talent materials.
that is exactly what happened to me :)) I started, got some cool characters, had to farm the chasm, inazuma or the desert.....basically they stood on the bench while my diluc took charge along side lisa, barbara and dori.
Agreed and this problem will be bigger over time. Imagine Natlan for example, not even talking about Fontaine. It really sucks
The most annoying thing is the "first complete the prerequisite quest" BS throughout the main story. You literally have to do minor side quests just because a certain npc or character is busy with another quest. Main quest should just flow smoothly without the constant interruptions.
That’s quite a valid concern. One minor solution they put out is probably the limited time events, which give you weapon and talent materials. But boss materials and artifacts are still gated by progression and sometimes even main quests
Has there been a event that gave inazuma material without being in inazuma?
I also created a new account and you're right about the events. It's difficult to go to places where the events at with your low AR and underlevelled characters. But other than that, just take your time to finish each region before going on to another.
Yeah the community has seen this becoming a problem since inazuma released
I did that mistake when i started playing there was not really much youtuber talking about anything. When i got new character and it was not from Monstradt i rushed the story to get their location to farm because i wanted to play with new character. The worst when u get a character from Inazuma because u cant go inazuma without story (or with some bug) Lyue and Sumeru its okay you can go there without story.
I think Genshin in a way is special this way because the story is progressive, like a real journey. So it makes sense that the characters you get along the way also are. New players ofc would be recommended to pull for the rerun character instead of the newer one.
When I got heizou at AR10 I wanted to use him. And then I was stuck with lvl40 heizou before I got to Inazuma.And it sucks
Genshin player try not to overdose on copium challenge (impossible)
So basically pull for something you dont like until you get to the area to play what you do like...? That's a terrible idea lmao
As a new player, wanderer was my first 5 star (technically I also had Mona from standard) all my other characters were the free ones or from the beginner banner (I got wanderer 2nd 10 pull so I didn't really get 4 stars from that). This was a serious problem for me, because, even when I ran to sumeru to get books and level materials, I couldn't get the weekly boss talent materials for wanderer. I was AR 50, over 2 months into the game, when I could start increasing the talent level of my only main DPS character. Yes, I probably could have mained traveler, but I didn't really know how the team comps worked when I got wanderer and he could fly so I chose him. It made the game kinda really annoying bc I constantly felt like I was wasting time and falling behind my world rank because weeks were passing without me fighting the weekly boss I needed
I started playing before this was a problem. But i kinda like the idea of materials being locked to a far away region. It adds a sense off achivment and challange to get there. Makes them feel like they are trully from there. Idk i just kinda like the idea of having a charather laying around that suddenly unlocks with a region. Also makes people use the starter characters more.
i see your point and i agree to an extent, there's defs something to be said about having characters in your back pocket that later on you're like "oh i can use him now? Cool" it can double as a nice surprise and as a goal to work towards, the problem with this though, is that it only works if the game gives you other things to play around with in the mean time. Depending on your luck in pulls you might get a bunch of characters who all cant be used early game and get bored quickly, OR you might get 1 or 2 that you cant use early game, then a few that you can use in the mean time.
If you ask me i think its part of hoyo's system to get peeps to spend, cuz if you have battle pass and welkin, your influx of characters is gonna be much faster thus you'd have more shit to play around with while the late game characters sit on the bench for later
@@KuroTheDesigner delaying the ability to use a character because it’s materials to upgrade are in a different region is dumb.
I suffered through the 50/50 of getting/not getting them let me use them right now, let me trade items to get their materials. It is why i don’t recommend Fate Grand Order to people, not only bcuz it is dated, but because some Servants need materials from Part 2 chapter 5 to upgrade past their first ascension.
@@goofballjim6167 tbf fgo now gives daily tickets to exchange for materials that you have no access to(though the 3 options rotate per month) plus events shops also provide a ton of them and there's this new white mana prism thing you get each time you clear a story quest that you can exchange for any existing materials in the current patch so yeah. If a newbie fgo player pulled a lost belt 5 character they would be able to max ascend that character after chapter 3 since they'll have enough white prism thingys to exchange for the mats 👍
You can just do the trial and it gives you everything you need to get them to lvl 40. Which is good enough for a while. Also it’s literally just inazuma because it’s not connected to the mainland.
And oh no, you have to play the game and can’t sprint to the end!
I started playing genshin pretty early on. Like idk somewhen around spring/summer 2021. I really enjoyed playing the gam, but stopped playing for some random reason. I don´t remember why.
I started playing again in summer 2022, which basically means I was like a new player. And I did not play regulary. I don´t even think that I played every week. I had forgotten so many things. Like for example the wish system. So I only played with the not leveled up characters, that where for free or which I pulled from the banners in 2021. I kinda got stuck at AR12. Pretty low level lol. It obviouesly took me years to level up.
A thing that really confused me, and still confuses me now, are the artifacts. I can´t really remember if they explain how they work, but I always have the struggle to give characters artifacts. I never know which artifact is best for which character.
Where do you see which artifact is for which element?
Thus I have weak characters, can´t do a lot domains. I´m also not the most aggressive player, which makes it not easyer lol. Therefore I also have struggle to ascend characters, weapons or level up talents.
I´m now AR42 and still have no Idea.
Old players lacking content: "Hoyoverse don't care about us!"
New players having a lot of content:
"I feel bad for new players!"
There's just nothing right for some people..
Except these are real issues in the game…? God forbid we bring them to light.
Imagine if you start playing in version 5.3 or something and you have to go through all the nations to reach natlan and level up characters that would suck
Sure, I can pretty relate to the struggles. I just started like one and half months ago, it's pretty hard to catch up the event and characters. But, LUCKILY, MY FIRST 5 STAR IS KEQING, which I don't really need to farming lots to ascend her. Although I kinda want to got another character who I like more (nahida, ayato, raiden, kokomi), but Keqing as my first 5 star is pretty good as I don't really need to actually go Inazuma first.
This is so true, I started mid-August and it took me over a month to get to Inazuma. I haven't even finished the quest line yet because I keep getting distracted by leveling up my characters pulling for new ones doing other things in the game like the chasm apparently and all the other stuff. I really need to get it together lol.
If you're a new player, don't worry about building your characters. Unless you're building for the sake of building, you can beat the current overworld, all the way to Sumeru even with level one characters. Even if you're f2p, and you decide to dropany character that reaches level 2 characters, it has been done. So no, your characters being stuck at level 20 for awhile will not make the game unplayable.
While not easily Available to everyone I think there’s a way if you have a friend that’s been playing. Join their world(they might have to lower their world level in order for you to come in) and farm whatever. Mind you m, a huge work around for something that can be more easily fixed by like a local specialty seller in the first region that sell every local specialty for mora.
that was my big issue when i started. one of the first 4star characters i pulled was Thoma. he wasnt on banner, so was locked at level 20 for a long while. to the point that he fell so far behind that he was dropped in favor of characters that i could ascend and do talents for.
I started in like 2.6 and it was frustrating because I wanted to use sayu, but she was capped at lvl 20 A0 while all my other characters where an ascension ahead, I ended up rushing the story quest, at the expense of levels, and was able to get the upgrade materials, but then I had to go back and farm to lvl my characters since I had mostly been ignoring the resin mechanic till then. I wonder if they will introduce a liyue/monstadt wish, that's just those characters reruns, and then you unlock inazuma/sumeru wishes at a higher AR, like I think AR 28 is what you need to get into inazuma, could also help with expanded character roster to add more banners
When I started playing I azuma was released and I got the little girl that spins and moves fast on the map, but I could not ascend her. That is when I stopped playing the game. Never touched it ever since but I continued to watch your videos cuz they are fun.
I faced this problem too! My first 5star was itto and i liked him so much but couldn't use him because of not unlocking Inazuma
I hate locking leveling up behind not only ascensions, but also adventure ranks. Like why? Who thought that was a good idea in an rpg?
Thank you!! I started in August and have been struggling with this.
an idea that i've had in my head that i think the game would benefit from would be some sort of merchant that you can buy regional items (including boss drops) from! like maybe it changes depending on the day of week like talent books. so you can raise your characters without having to run across the map just to level them past 40.
I also had a similar struggle when i started the game 6 months ago but fortunately i lost 50/50 on ayaka's banner and got diluc instead
He carried me all the way to ar 46 and i had no problem with catching up with the content
Unfortunately, these gatcha games aren't designed to be around for decades, like mmorpgs. They generate hype and players for 2-3 years, peak (some time around Sumeru/Fontaine for Genshin), then ride that invested/addicted veteran base for 2-3 more years. By the end of Snezhnaya, the dev team will be down to 3 guys, as Hoyo shifts focus to other games.
It's harsh to say, but they're basically peak-efficiency pump-and-dumps.
I started playing genshin impact like 30days back with zero knowledge and it was a bit confusing. But then I got introduced to your channel and it helped. Its a lot of fun now. Its not that difficult ig.
Lmao I started playing past october.
First 5star: Raiden
Banner 4stars: Rosaria , Sayu, Sara. Got the 3 and c3 for Sara
Extra: Gorou
Yeah, I couldn't use Raiden or Inazuma characters in 3 months.
I think another big issue as a new player is the material scarcity, because there are so many quest than before that getting to ar 55 or 45 doesnt take as much time as before but the material drop rates are the same as, while creating a new account the problem i faced was the trasure hoarder drops were so low and u have to fight so many of them and they are scattered throughout the map, another problem is the crystal(hydro, cryo, pryo crystals etc) things run out so fast that i was forced to do weekly bosses that i didnt want to do because they drop these crystals, and they cost 30-60 resin which is a lot because u lvl up so fast that ur resin and the materials drops cant keep up. I think they need to up the drop rate of these materials at low level.What makes it worse is that when ur a new player u dont know how to manage these materials or which characters to level up u can waste a days, weeks of resin the make so little room for mistake for a casual game.
This is super refreshing, because when I found your channel I was on like level 17 and you were at a point where you were waiting on things to open to have something to do. You were way past explaining as was everyone else who streamed this game and I was level 45+ before I figured out exactly what you are talking about right now. I really wish you had a Beginners Playlist that explained the things you were talking about a year ago so I could have watched your content and learned, instead of having crap characters that were higher levels.. :(
I personally am on the new side of being a player. I’ve been playing for a little of a month and I just made it to Inazuma about a week ago. There’s a whole bunch of domains that I really want to unlock but I do know that they are still request an icon quest I feel like you get so distracted and you forget what you’re doing so you end up not getting what you were planning on getting done like I learned this when I was in liyue. So pretty much what I learned is that when I see enemies even if they’re just like Hilichurls, I’ll fight them just so I can get the materials for Ascension and weapon extension but sometimes I do end up getting distracted like there’s a quest that I have been needing to get done and I’ll just go look to level up some artifacts and then I’ll see a raiden. I can send her, so let me go and then I’ll end up going back to Inazuma and I won’t go to where I need to go for a quest ;-;