@Skynet half the time, those items are made in the same exact factory. Sometimes they clean parts, many times they only remove branding and just sell it with a different name. Factories in China don’t care about US copyright laws. In China, doing that is not illegal at all…. In fact, the government seems to reward intellectual property theft for the betterment of China.
Absolutely, the lack of accountability for businesses that facilitate this is what allows it to continue. Unless the true cost of goods (including fossil fuels) is realized the capitalism is a recipe for the disaster that is beginning to befall us all now. The only solution in a capitalist society is to fine companies well beyond the profit they enjoyed from committing their fraud. $10,000,000 fine for $100,000,000 profit, wish I had that opportunity.
LSD is a huge issue. LSD itself is one of the safest drugs out there in terms of toxicity, but a lot of counterfeits (25i NBOME) are being sold as acid. A lot of these counterfeits are technically legal (because they have different molecular structure), but they can cause a lot more harm than the real deal
The problem with counterfeit drugs isnt a problem with China shipping them to us, it's a problem with our healthcare system, if health care and drugs were affordable or even reasonably priced, you wouldnt have this kind of problem.
I used to buy EVERYTHING off Amazon but recently I’ve dramatically reduced my purchases. Anything critical like a switch or a motor I can’t trust to purchase from them. I’ve purchased car polish and even tooth paste which turned out to be counterfeit. Buying locally again.
@@MJ-gm7km they fake everything now i alone got fake nail polish, hair products and vitamins literally the most random things i can’t trust anything of there anymore. Shane they used to be amazing now not so much
Counterfeit... is kinda awesome... You're looking at it the wrong way... Often it comes from china either way. You're just not having some American businessman raise the price.... for kinda no (good) reason. If they aren't gonna pay the factory workers more with that extra price... I'm simply not paying it. The drug thing sucks... ill admit, but the hate is so misguided... Why not create affordable pills instead of making people have counterfeit basically be the only option.
@@daralove6174 that’s nice in theory, but counterfeit items aren’t exact copies, they are just trying to look like the real thing. A lot of counterfeit goods are made with dangerous materials and ingredients, because they are cheaper (no testing requirements if you are making a fake version of something else). Testing of seized make-up, clothing, jewellery and household items often shows high levels of bacteria, lead, cadmium and lots of other nasty stuff. Counterfeit medication and vitamins often don’t contain any of the actual medicine or vitamins you are paying for, so it’s literally a scam. I would prefer to know that the products I buy are being made safely and effectively, in a controlled environment, rather than brushing my teeth with lead or salmonella…. 🤷🏻♀️ I’m not saying that real products are beyond reproach, but if Nike or Colgate use dangerous materials they are going to get fined, forced to recall or you can sue them. They are liable for any dangerous items, no such protection with fakes.
I've been an Amazon user since 2002 and counterfeiting has become the main problem for me. Even high-tech stuff like hard drives get counterfeited now, and of course the fake products are super low quality. I can't even buy computer stuff on Amazon anymore because literally most of it is fake. It is Amazon's responsibility to stop counterfeit products on their platform and they have failed at that.
I ordered a brand name video mic from Amazon a while back. Upon opening the box I found the mic packed in a ziplock bag with an inkjet printed instruction sheet. I sent it back to Amazon as it was an obvious counterfeit and ordered the mic directly from the company. Same price as Amazon and it arrived in a printed box suitable for display on a store shelf, a slick instruction manual and catalog, an extension cable, a fake leather carrying bag, and stickers with the company logo. The company also had a "beware of counterfeits" warning on their web site with an illustration of exactly what they included with each purchase. The problem is that bad.
They should add badges to certain stores that are the actual/ real/ official product. The company has to have paperwork/ proof that it’s the official company. It may help a little
@@MultiKumar321 that won’t happen as so many politicians have deep financial connections with Chinese businesses, to include current president and his family. He’s not the only one, both republicans and democrats are connected to the Chinese, while the regular citizens end up paying for it.
@@motherofdragons5287 Name a common brand name that doesn't have their products manufactured in China or some other foreign country. It has nothing to do with the politicians. America's manufacturing base died decades ago, because corporations wanted to save money on labor.
I work in the textile industry and know about machinery and garment production techniques. I lived in China for a year and a half. The US will never be able to stop the flow of 1:1 to counterfeits. This is the highest quality tier in the counterfeiting world. China is a very complicated web of relationships called guanxi. Factory owners have these relationships and can get information and trade secrets, use the same labor, use the same machinery, and source the same materials to manufacture a let’s say Dior, YSL, etc handbag or any other garment. Even if an item is made in Italy, fabric or another raw material or even perhaps the machinery used to make the garment comes from China. Zoje supplies equipment to a factory in Romania that manufactures down jackets for Moncler. Anyone reading this comment probably has something on “made in China.” IP laws are not enforced in China. If you trademark in the US, it is not protected in China. You have to trademark in China plus have the resources to combat counterfeiting in China.
Yes because of the stupid big brands sell it so expensive you should be thankful to Chinese for cheaper versions of the big name brands items I think they should not banned counterfeit goods if they do then ask the stupid big brands to make there real products cheaper for everyone for example Rolex Watch new $8000 but Chinese make exactly replica they can sell it for $200-$300 thats fair reasonable prices specially those stupid luxury name brands that sell in high price they should all sell it LOWER PRICE IF U DONT WANT CHINESE PEOPLE TO MAKE COUNTERFEIT GOODS BECAUSE HIGHER PRICE ONLY SOME PEOPLE CAN AFFORD THATS WHY CHINESE PEOPLE CLEVER because the regular people can’t afford it so if u don’t want counterfeit goods so ask those big real luxury brands to sell there real products CHEAP USE COMMON SENSE for example real Rolex watch cost $8000 make it for $500-$1000 the real Rolex watches so those big real brands need to step up and lower prices that are more affordable even the luxury brands like Gucci
"US businesses are going out of business because of counterfeit" OH GOOD, you wanted to have cheap labor and get 200% return? You get what you deserve.
I get what you're saying and for the most part I agree; but not every company exploits cheap Chinese labor. And the ones that don't are the ones that are hardest hit by cheap counterfeits.
I think you drastically underestimate development costs. Yeah there is a huge markup purchase price vs manufacturing. However that’s not the full story. Some products take many years and millions of dollars to get to market. If someone can copy that product there is no incentive to spend money on developing a better or even adequate product. So instead of shoes that run a 2hr marathon without injury we get something that hurts to stand in for 5 min.
@@JSchroederee that's true but irrelevant and not contradictive to techyk comment. His comment is very broad. He could be saying that if you didn't outsource development and manufacturing to China maybe the design wouldn't slip out the back door. If you developed and manufactured here then you have counterfits waiting at the ready to ship when the product is launched. That can only happen if the design went out the back or side door of a firm or factory. If they had to physically reverse engineer something it would take many many months after product launch to do so.
To a extent, though i have seen a large amount of products that were made in house outside of china. That got counterfeited almost instantly based on screen shots of the original product. Intellectual property and copyright law is almost non-existent in China, to the point that there are even knockoff theme parks from anything from Disney to World of warcraft in china. That's not to say that some of the knockoffs cant be good, some products like the Roomba clones actually got vastly improved when they started copying them (Like the xiaomi copies were one of the first to start using LIDAR systems for room mapping)
@@banagan4604 Amazon prices fluctuate, ur also arent safe by buying directly from Amazon, cuz its usually just coming from third party tru Amazon fulfillment
Atleast w amazon you can return. The as seen on tv its literally impossible to retun. They put you on hold so you just give up. I hope china destroys the as seen on tv company.
I work for a company that sells on Amazon and Amazon does take counterfeit reports somewhat seriously. A customer claimed we sold a counterfeit even though we are supplied by the manufacturer. Amazon required us to submit invoices showing that we had purchased that item directly from the manufacturer before the date the complaint was made. It also has to show a quantity that reflects the amount of sales we had, so we can't just sell 100 of the item and then only show that 50 of them came from the manufacturer. After a certain amount of reports, they'll deactivate your offer on a listing. But, I do think it would be more effective if they required all sellers to submit invoices before they are even allowed to sell the items.
I’m about done with Amazon. They are shaping up to be a very low quality replacement of the retail industry they decimated. Blatant counterfeit products everywhere. Constantly peddling low quality third-party sellers. “Prime” shipping takes 7 days. We don’t even have to get into the reputation they have with their workers. Hope they fall hard.
It must be totally different in the US. Prime is next day here in the UK. It becomes 2 day shipping during holidays or their special prime day/Black Friday stuff. I just don't buy from third party sellers, or anything that I've never seen in a store before to know if it's real.
Why is it even popuIar, it’s just prime features…etc, there’s literally tutorials on how to rip peopIe off, make very cheap and seII x10 the price, lowest quaIity, so many middIe men, during a warehouse phase everyone had horror stories there because they made them work so hard, it’s the same method, buy made in US or friendly, it’s very generic, although l Iean right this guy should of paid taxes.
You said it. Plus Amazon does not have another party inspecting the items that end up in the fullfillment. The items come off the trucks, packed on the pallets, taken straight to the warehouse. Then stowed by a stower & picked by a picker, boxed then sent to a customer. No one checks to make sure someones homemade body cream has been tested by a lab. The warehouse is not temperature regulated for certain foods. Baby formula is not under lock and key, but it is in the stores. I can't believe mother's buy infant formula from Amazon. You can buy a pallet of shampoo that didn't pass inspection but still sellable and sell on Amazon. You find these items at flea markets, Dollar stores. People really should stop buying from fullfillment centers and start going back to old school shopping or buying from the site that produces the item/product.
I am careful of what I buy on Amazon. I did once get some ‘so called’ name brand batteries (which were the price that I paid in stores) and oh my, they were not. Those ‘new’ batteries started to very slowly ooze after the package was opened. I am not into name brand clothes, accessories, and other such very highly priced items, nor the obviously fake copies (some of the prices are soooo low that you can’t help but think that they scream ‘COUNTERFEIT’.
@@slcRN1971 In fact Amazon almost killing traditional stores is hurting many people. I only buy obvious products that hard to counterfeit on Amazon like protein product, vegetables powder and many more. Shoes, clothes and many more better bought in stores.
@@mikef2811 It become like that, just likecany other online store also Walmart. But what other big giant stores that can afford to pay their employees with minimum wages? Yup, no other else! Those 2 giant stores will be the center of store in USA. I don't like the fact about king of fake like they did, but let's face it, Amazon sold mosy of their products from China. I am smart enough to buy which one of which one and I also use the $120 yearly prime for Music, Movie and free fast shipping which still cheaper than Apple music and others.
amazon should take responsibility on the product they sell, they should also be "fined" for being negligent on selling counterfeit. big companies should not always be exempted to such things
well once everybody went to manufacture in China this issue raised exponentially since the 80´s, so what is the solution? Manufacture in your own country
just ask for bob exactly. But the real reason for this is because money is hard to get. This video is encouraging people to buy real brand materials counterfeits, but some people buy them knowingly. Don't blame us-- money is the reason.
*Statement:* Amazon is "allowing brands to delete counterfeiters themselves"... *Translation:* We are outsourcing the cost of enforcement to the businesses already experiencing losses due to our lack of oversight on 3rd party seller registrations.
The companies are using this power to remove small sellers that purchased genuine products on clearance at normal stores and were selling them on Amazon. BulbHead is the worst offender I have heard about. I've had this happen to people I know with that brand in particular, and there is no recourse other than selling somewhere else.
@@CynicalDriver eBay, but bulbhead was having listing removed from that platform also. It was the Christmas light projector for outside the house. You can finally move them at a flea market or auction then avoid that product...
Was Amazon's 3rd party marketplace a good idea? It has turned me off from buying a lot of stuff on Amazon. I would prefer that Amazon was the only seller on their market place.
Heck, I got a pair of headphones from their website a couple of weeks ago, and they fell apart after a couple of weeks. I told this guy named Jim Browning about it. Hope he sees it.
American brands employing Chinese factory workers is a consensual agreement. Chinese companies ripping off American products is theft. Intellectual property theft. There’s a big difference
Also, the “real” versions are made in shops next door to the “fake” ones and are most likely using very similar materials/design/production. Change my mind.
@@Aliens-Are-Our-Friends2027 simply not true for all fakes. They're all graded and prices according to quality. Yes, some things are literally the same but one may have a logo on it
@@mnunez1618 dude ur fully brainwashed by criminals!! ip laws are absolutely absurd unless branding is vital to our species survival!! ip laws are literally pushing us into the next major extinction event!! your logic is totally flawed as ur programmed to consume 100 more yrs of gucci or 100000 of life???? i know what id choose!!
@@mnunez1618 You know what's theft charging the same item for over 1000% for the market price in the US when the cost of manufacturing one cost a few dollars.
It’s simply what happens when you run a sales business that has you sell products that are never actually seen, touched or let alone ever tested for quality, safety or even make sure it’s legal
ARMITYLE KHONA I don’t know where you got your information from but you’re absolutely wrong! Trump in just his first term in office has gone golfing more than the last couple presidents combined!
@@armitylekhona585 this is fake news. In reality Trump went golfing on the tax payer's dime more in his first year than Obama did in 8 years. But Republicans are ok with it since Trump is a republican and gave them tax cuts.
@@armitylekhona585 what's worse is that when It Obama went golfing he always went close by to DC. It's doesn't cost the secret service much to get a motorcade to go nearby. Trump insists on blowing 100s of millions of tax payer dollars so he can go to Mar a Lago in Florida.
It's 2022 now and this is still a huge problem especially on amazon, the amount of fake products I've purchased and sent back from that site is ridiculous. Amazon's big promises have amounted to nothing and I'm starting to move away from using their site and instead buying direct from the manufacturer if possible especially when it comes to buying expensive electronics. I can see the golden age of Amazon dwindling one day in the future as consumer trust is slowly being eroded.
Exactly. And why wouldn't you? Nobody can tell the difference. My only gripe about counterfeit Nike shoes is that whilst they look awesome for $40...the materials are so cheap that they are actually super uncomfortable
It's not that's it's cheap, it's that someone else took your product and it profiting from it. They didn't make a better, cheaper, competing product, they're profiting from your brand, and your design!
Big corporations don't like counterfeits because they don't like the competition to keep prices low because they're greedy, so they blame the counterfeits as the reason for product mark-ups. They want us to think if people stop buying counterfeits that original brand names won't be as expensive - but that's a lie. They're just trying to get rid of any competition so they can mark up their products at whatever ridiculous rate they want when there's no other options to purchase from.
I can tell you that a counterfeit water filter for my refrigerator has cost me thousands of dollars. I would have never bought them if I had any idea they were counterfeit and the package looked just like a legitimate whirlpool water filter. I have a lawyer suing because of this. It broke while we were out of town for 3 days and I estimate that it was poring water into my kitchen for 2 full days.
@@TT-jg8ju the lawyer came back and said there was nothing they could do. Neither the seller or Ebay was responsible. I NEVER will use Ebay again because of this and I warn anyone that will listen. All said and done, it cost me $7,000.
Lets keep it real. Some counterfeit goods, esp. clothing, shoes and bags are of higher quality than the original. Even some luxury goods makers were tricked into admitting this in the early 2000s.
Depends on what it is. But copies that aren't technically cointerfeit but have the look and feel and still rip off are as American as apple pie. Who buys generic cola that has the look and feel of coca cola and often differs very little. Thats still dishonest but legal but American as Tony Soprano.
they are the exact same no probably about it, if american brands are going to exploit cheep labour and the consumer its their own greedy fault!!ip and trade marks are absurd
There are entire counterfeit brands that post on Amazon under the store name of the actual brand. I'm always willing to pay more on the brands actual website for this reason.
@@NotEpoch they couldn't stop people from selling or using weed so they legalized it now they racking in the prophets and still can't stop drug dealers from selling it lol
@@Livetoeat171 Shopping on Amazon is way faster than registering and making a new membership on every company site out there on the Internet. I don’t want to have to submit my email and create a password for every product I want to buy from a different company. The Chinese government needs to shut down counterfeiting in their own country. But I suspect that they either turn a blind eye to it, or even profit from it themselves.
Yes because of the stupid big brands sell it so expensive you should be thankful to Chinese for cheaper versions of the big name brands items I think they should not banned counterfeit goods if they do then ask the stupid big brands to make there real products cheaper for everyone for example Rolex Watch new $8000 but Chinese make exactly replica they can sell it for $200-$300 thats fair reasonable prices specially those stupid luxury name brands that sell in high price they should all sell it LOWER PRICE IF U DONT WANT CHINESE PEOPLE TO MAKE COUNTERFEIT GOODS BECAUSE HIGHER PRICE ONLY SOME PEOPLE CAN AFFORD THATS WHY CHINESE PEOPLE CLEVER because the regular people can’t afford it so if u don’t want counterfeit goods so ask those big real luxury brands to sell there real products CHEAP USE COMMON SENSE for example real Rolex watch cost $8000 make it for $500-$1000 the real Rolex watches so those big real brands need to step up and lower prices that are more affordable even the luxury brands like Gucci
Yes because of the stupid big brands sell it so expensive you should be thankful to Chinese for cheaper versions of the big name brands items I think they should not banned counterfeit goods if they do then ask the stupid big brands to make there real products cheaper for everyone for example Rolex Watch new $8000 but Chinese make exactly replica they can sell it for $200-$300 thats fair reasonable prices specially those stupid luxury name brands that sell in high price they should all sell it LOWER PRICE IF U DONT WANT CHINESE PEOPLE TO MAKE COUNTERFEIT GOODS BECAUSE HIGHER PRICE ONLY SOME PEOPLE CAN AFFORD THATS WHY CHINESE PEOPLE CLEVER because the regular people can’t afford it so if u don’t want counterfeit goods so ask those big real luxury brands to sell there real products CHEAP USE COMMON SENSE for example real Rolex watch cost $8000 make it for $500-$1000 the real Rolex watches so those big real brands need to step up and lower prices that are more affordable even the luxury brands like Gucci
None. tell me the people with low income why they can’t afford the real brands because they are expensive so the real brands should dramatically lower there prices I’m serious.
Companies that out source to save money to maximize there profit quarter over quarter are short sighted and long term this had to happen knowingly out sourcing jobs and then complaining about going out of business makes no sense
Thing is they produce the machines that are used to produce the product most of the time. A lot of the raw materials are produced there. Even fashion items made in different country like Italy are still counterfeited. They will still be able to do it. Won’t stop them will only take them a little longer but they will still counterfeit it.
Amazon and eBay make a profit from everything including counterfeit goods. The simple rule they could implement is that if you can prove that item is counterfeit you don't have to return it to the seller which would increase the risk for the seller of such goods. But from what I heard even if its clear that goods are fake, the buyer still forced to send it back io the seller in order to get refund who can then resell it elsewhere.
I don't know about Amazon as returns go directly to their warehouse, but with eBay returns, the address on the account is usually some random house or store room in a huge business block of units, and every time I've needed to return a counterfeit product they've just refused the delivery and it's eventually made its way back to me. They know they can't resell it so it's worthless to them. Aliexpress are the same, a unit in a block, totally different address to their PayPal so they can scam customers out of money as PayPal will side with them even when you have tracking. But they don't resell what you return, assuming they even accept the package, at least not on the sites.
There's plenty of counterfeit items sold by Amazon themselves. It isn't just 3rd party sellers on their platform. Yes, I'm referring to items with seller = Amazon.
Interesting that they bring up Nike at 2:37 🤔, I wonder if Nike leaving Amazon had anything to do with issues around counterfeits. A big brand like Nike publicly leaving Amazon clearly spells out to consumers that if you're buying Nikes on Amazon, they're fake. Our channel recently published a video on the new IP laws introduced in the phase 1 trade deal which should make it easier for US companies to pursue action against Chinese operators with blatant disregard for intellectual property laws. If we really want to solve this issue China🇨🇳 needs to cooperate.
@@ApplicoInc Nobody cared if it's fake if it looks and feels the same and why would they? Nike doesn't even pay good wages to the people who make the shoe.
My prime membership ended 5 months ago. I never bothered to renew and haven't looked back. Averaged $500 a month purchasing on Amazon. Not missing anything, just using other places.
That is THE POINT. Original brands are made in China from original contract factory. Counterfeit also made in China from the other factories(usually the other factories hire original factory workers for QC). What is difference?
@@yanggun1004 The difference is the people who DIDN'T design the product ended taking a portion of revenue from the people who did design and made them first. There are thousands of people working in that original brand. People's earning will get affected. It will be a snowballing effect. The more we buy counterfeit, the lesser original brands will come up. We will end up with poorer quality of stuff because the original brands quit the industry
@Love Champion spoken like a true Chinese counterfeiter! "winning is getting the sale" is a despicable perspective that shows little understanding about life. it is more an animal's approach, a predator who makes no societal contribution; another version of a thief. it is the view of a simpleton, a dullard.
I've stopped buying shoes from Amazon. I've had to send most back because they were knock-offs!! It's ridiculous that such a large company can't verify the authenticity of merchandise that they sell!!!
how were people living before globalization and the opening of borders to foreign goods? were we unhappy? couldn't people afford to buy goods manufactured domestically?
I'm confused. Were we supposed to feel sorry for the CEO of the Telebrand "As Seen On TV" company that rakes in billions of dollars a year with shoddy products and then complained to Donald Trump about other companies who are making counterfeit copies of their shoddy products and selling them at a cheaper price? If you wanted to evoke empathy from a viewer, you should have stuck to the "small businesses are suffering" angle and focused on the effect of small (or even medium-sized) business owners.
Not everyone is envious and spiteful like you, the main purpose is that counterfeits are killing profits and innovations for both large and small businesses. Nobody is immune. Trump is actually taking efforts to tackle the issue, don't let your bitterness lose sight of that.
Where's the "surprised pikachu" meme. For all these sellers crying about China bootlegging, their products after those same workers got off that sweat shop shift. From making those businesses products, and now are trying to make "side money" using the skills they learned?
1. Not all companies use Chinese labor. 2. You’re ignoring the fact that research and development is expensive. 3. You’re ignoring the counter factual, it’s not America who keeps low income countries poor. Blame leaders like Mao who killed more people than Hitler did.
@@calebpaddack7450 Best competitor wins. If that means the fake is beating you then thats just capitalism. Everyone wanted the free market. What's wrong did you not like what you got when it happened?
@@scwirpeo it's only a free market when the customer buying the goods knows what they are getting. A lot of the time the consumer is unaware that they are buying a fake and don't know the mistake until it doesn't hold up long term. Amazon has said they lose hundreds of millions of dollars because people create fake pages for brands and sell knock-offs as real. I don't mind when the consumer picks A over B. I do mind when people claim they are selling A and in reality, it's B. That's fraud, not capitalism.
In addition to counterfeits, some Amazon sellers repackage old products as new. I got the LOTR Extended Edition Blu Ray box set, sold as “new” from Amazon. What came was a clearly used set with broken casing, dirty discs, and bent leaflets. Shipped it back and went to Best Buy instead.
And they're still selling obvious fake movies to this day. I really want the Underworld 4k set but they stopped making it. Of course it's still available on Amazon through a 3rd party seller. The same seller sells a ton of other random "brand new" items like records, movies, Legos , and so on. All items that are known to be counterfeited regularly.
lots and lots of counterfeit Samsung phone chargers and cables on Amazon ... some don't work right out of the package, they're not even useable counterfeits
I finally found cords that last more than a month. Forget brand name though. More money but last longer. Been boycotting Chinese goods for many many years knowing they were junk unless there's no other choice and never last long.
There were crappy Chinese high-current extension cords that reviews said were catching fire. It's not JUST knock off shirts and shoes. Some of this stuff is just complete garbage and some is dangerous. Remember when they had asbestos in cat food or something like that?
Some products sold on Amazon are so inexpensive, that even if the consumer realizes that they got a counterfeit product, it isn't worth their time and effort to return it. That happened to me. I bought a replacement blade and screen for my razor, and received a used product that had been re-sealed. The hairs inside the clear plastic packaging made that obvious.
@@livewellwitheds6885 some people don't even care they are getting a fake product, especially if it is super cheap and isn't something mechanical and doesn't break easily.
That's disgusting. But I believe it. Amazon is no longer reputable and we need to stop buying from them. I'd rather experience some inconvenience or even do without then continue supporting them. Most of their business is clearly with China.
If it's a cheap item, Amazon will often refund without return if you contact them, as it isn't cost effective for them to pay for and process the return either. Anything that isn't sold by Amazon on the listing is a risk. Just don't buy from third party sellers. Amazon will refund literally anything if they sold it to you, and they'll even pay to have it collected from your front door.
Melvin E. with Soul Sense Ministries Differences in minor details most of the time, but I'm talking more about a third option : mid-range brands that don't care much about logos and being a status symbol but use materials that are as good as those of ""high end"" brands. Also, since gaining their notoriety a lot of big brands lowered their quality in the last few years : it's just an illusion of quality based on reputation and not worth it anymore.
Seen plenty of cases where the "generic product" did far superior to the "brand product". Casus: literally all my shoes in the past 8 years. In the 8 years I've gone through 2 pairs of shoes from "no name" brands, my friends on average have gone through 6 pairs :^)
Good comment. Either real or fake, as long as people want and/or need them. the Chinese will make those products to sell,. After all, it is about supply and demand.
Lol, that's so true. US companies take advantage of Chinese labor... but don't rip-off our intellectual property. The company's literally give them the blue prints to everything. Cost $11 to make some Jordan's... we buy them for $80-$350. Resell market and limited items also add to this craz. Seriously, you have shoes that cost $11 to make... sold for $190 by Nike (limited release)... resell market $300-$4000. That's ridiculous. The Chinese and American people are getting screwed over and we're just supposed to take it.
If the Chinese government are NOT stamping this out add an import tax. The CCP are part of the issue. In Australia all imports via EBay are subject to the goods and services tax of 10%.
@@autisticchoppa3589 Not meaning to be rude, but it's not really your business if someone wants to spend a ton of money on a super nice watch. I wouldn't myself, but if some multimillionaire wants to do so, I don't care. Making those high end watches employs some people, and if purchased in a state with a sales tax, the sale will provide the state with a pretty good chunk of tax revenue.
10:07 " How many more brick and mortar retailers need to go out of business before somebody goes after Amazon? " They are going out of business BECAUSE of Amazon. NOT the counterfeiters!! ha!
@TH-cam Troll Imagine thinking that because someone said 1 comment about a company that they are or must think that they are an economics expert? Who's the idiot here? It ain't me....
Not hard for the Chinese to produce counterfeit products of goods. The big brand names actually have their stuff manufactured there at insanely low costs, then sell them in their home markets at premium prices. Often the counterfeits are of similar quality (at times better) for a more reasonable profit to themselves.
Companies could give Amazon a list of approved sellers that are registered with their company and then if someone comes along and puts an item up for sale that is not one of those approved companies, they are flagged as counterfeit (or at least "suspicious"). Also, items are tracked from departure to final destination. Can't this be used to determine if the source is the actual place the item is made or warehoused?
I was banned from amazon for complaining on Facebook about Chinese counterfeit we bought off of amazon, I also received a 30 day ban on Facebook for this same incident even though the product we bought was counterfeit and everybody knew it yet I was the one punished for saying something, pretty sad world we live in, ill go off one of these days kaboom....
1:1 aka exact copies are actually insane. They are made in the same factories, by the same workers, from the same materials as the originals, and being sold for 1/10 the price.
Most of these "fake" products use the same materials/production methods and are assembled in same factory or industrial areas as the real ones. If you dont think these major corporations don't just have a bunch unused materials/already made unsold products laying around then the counterfeit industry wouldn't be this huge
COLLECTOR30 ..I am a buyer of replicas, the best replicas are generally Korean but still use different factories. You have the burden of proof, provide evidence for your claim.
I’ve been noticing this problem since 2018 and it’s ridiculous. Some people get chemical burns from products and I’ve gotten a counterfeit perfume before.
Provuze The US should be trying to beat China at their own game instead of trying to get China to play the US game. China is the biggest country in the world, they are not concerned with US law.
At some point in the near future, China will lead the world in new innovation for all goods. The rest of the world should counterfeit tf out of everything they produce!
Provuze Yep and different countries play by different rules! It’s a waste of time complaining about China when they’ve been doing this for as long as I can remember.
I recall a story about a guy who went to China to have his idea produced on the cheap and when everything was set and ready to go problems suddenly started popping up out of nowhere and production was delayed for like two months... _During_ that time counterfeits started popping up and when he went after them he found out that the counterfeiters were basically the guys he paid for to do his stuff but instead sold it under a local brand. He paid for everything so someone else could reap the benefits... @05:15 With both the products and AND the packaging basically looking identical I'd say you're to blame yourself for outsourcing your crap for production to a country whose vocabulary does not know the meaning of _counterfeit._ If Serpentza ( the South Afrikan guy on his bike riding through China ) is to believe then stealing someones idea is apparently considered some form of honoring the creator - With a mentality like that, why would anyone be surprised about this counterfeit issue?
Also supplements. When I bought in store in works, but bought in Amazon it no effect. Then returned in buying the same supplement at store and it works! I learned my lesson.
Not to mention, people are buying fakes at a much lower price and buying the real item at a store. Then they return the fake and get the price difference and the real product. Starting to see this happen with wigs and hairpieces because its become a huge business since covid started.
Having a requirement that sellers have an LLC in the country that they are selling in essentially removes international trade from question, basically meaning that you can no longer sell items internationally.
As an individual consumer, I get so fed up that I don't really use amazon anymore (or it's not my go-to at least). They care so much about the consumer experience, except for this giant flaw.
It's easy if you want to solve it, if a brand doesn't want counterfit products, they need to embed a unique 'non-counterfeit ID' into the product, and when someone wants to sell a product on amazon / ebay, they must enter the products id, or similar
LEE JIA JE - technically it kinda goes both ways. People buys fake which supports China’s economy. But we also get tons and tons of International Chinese Student and visitor who spend way more than Americans spend buying fakes. We see what we like and we pick it. Chinese want that American college degree and we like their cheap stuff. But the companies in the US themselves spend money in China to produce those goods. Not our fault if you gave the people in China the recipe, and in return, those people replicate it and give the consumers a better price.
Doctor Sarcastic This is is no way an empirically-supported statement. Chinese tourism accounts for approximately $200m annually to the US. Counterfeit goods from China alone cost US businesses and consumers $1.4bn a year. And that’s before we even get into the PRC’s IP theft - $225 billion to $600 billion. A year. Every year. And a lot of that theft? Provided by your so-called benevolent students, guest workers, and others. China is a kleptocracy and we’re the ones getting mugged over and over.
I had a nice business on Amazon and eBay selling German auto wiring tape. The counterfeit market killed me. Our government is at fault for this problem.
Where’s the protection for the consumers??? I get companies are prone to lose money, but if counterfeiting is as rampant as they say we the consumer are the ones at risk too if we want “real” goods.
Counterfeits are sold at a substantial amount less than the "real" item. If you buy something that is waaaaay cheaper than what it should be, it's fake.
Seems to me, the online e-commerce should have a better vetting process of their third party vendors! Also, fulfilling US payments on international point of sales after merchandise has been authenticated would elevate a majority of counterfeiters.
I purchase mostly from eBay when I shop online. But only from manufacturers stores. Best Buy and the like. And lots from Goodwill. Mostly books dvds artwork etc.
It's not that they're doing a poor job. It's cause they don't really care. At the end of the day, Amazon will still make money regardless if it's authentic or fake.
Actually they do care . it caught quite often . it just hard to filter all of it . some buildings are doing 15 million units in a week . there a lot that gets done just to get that one item to a person . I think about that when i order it insane to think about. If you ever seen the process in one building let alone at least three it might take to get your item to you . IXD ,fulfillment and a delivery hub .
The guy on seen on Tv forgot to mention that on every package that he sells he charges for shipping and handling which dramatically increases the product price also he does not sell on amazon
If the multi-billionaires who produce the original products, took a respectable pay cut, and sold their products at respectable prices, there would be no market for counterfeit products.
TheFalseHuman some are and some aren’t. Sometimes the exact factories will actually make legitimate discount versions for the name brand business that hired them, so what you’re buying at discount outlet stores are legitimate brands, only they were made to be cheaper. Then there are factories who were making legitimate versions, but the quality wasn’t so good so they’re set aside, not to be sold, since they’re technically defective, or at least, not to the high standards of the brand, but when no ones looking, factory workers resell the defective ones at a lower knockoff price. Then there are factories that do truly knock off merchandise and their quality is pretty bad, sometimes worse than what you paid for.
Clothes, Shoes, Electronics.... I'm always trying to get it directly from the manufacturers website or walk-in to the store... But then again its hard to feel sorry for these greedy idiots. Pricing their products so high when it cost them so little to make...Amazon definitely needs to do a whole lot more to combat these fake sellers. E-bay???? Hell No!!! Haven't bought a dollar worth of item from that place for more than a decade.
Counterfeit products are good because they help poor people make money unlike the original product where rich get richer. I prefer counterfeit helps poor people.
@Jane its just making a imitation product, you are spending money to buy raw materials, labor , transportation of goods, time effort etc. Its a crime because law says that. And these laws are made to help rich get richer. Think Nike makes shoes by exploiting cheap labor in china for $7 to $9 and sells for about $80. Thats government supported law and legal, but not ethical.
Well it's not every companies goal to make their products affordable. Luxury brands for instance wouldn't be prestigious or luxury if they were affordable. People only buy luxury knockoffs to appear like they can afford them. There are already plenty of companies that make cheaper alternatives, but most people will tell you they are not as good. It is all about trade-offs. You want something good you have to pay for it and vice versa.
As explained in this video, authentic goods are always more expensive because of the cost in R&D and advertisement. Let's say I spent $300k and 8 years on a PhD degree. I write a book and sell it for $20. You buy the book, make a copy and sell it for $3.99. You would obviously outsell me. You would profit off of my interlectual property at almost no cost. You only spent money on ink and paper while I spent years and tons of money in school plus ink and paper.
@@khanhhien06 I cant agree more with your example. Too many people are jumping to the conclusion on here that established reputable companies are charging higher prices because they can or they're greedy corporations. The research and development, advertising, warehousing, wages, plus the other expenses that these companies have to bare the burden of add up. People, stop thinking so superficially and think about what your saying. These Chinese fraudsters are destroying our business and entrepreneurial spirit here.
@@sleendrvr When the reason the product costs more is so some executives can have another yacht it's hard to call it innovative spirit. These days most of the R&D is done over seas where engineers make like 30kUSD. The costs are nearly nothing, they just like profit more than competition. Let free trade do it's job, if they can't compete they sink.
Problem that can easily be fixed by making platforms such as Amazon responsible for anything sold via their platforms...would force them to actually vet potential sellers behore they can join the platform...
It's great to get stuff cheap but many businesses both small and large will loose incentive to innovate new technology and just take the path a least resistance to make a buck. Imagine if in nature most Animals primary way of succeeding was being a parasite then all life would collapse. I think that if you see good cheap fake stuff you should buy it as a consumer. That's called being wise and frugal. But for the big dogs, the people making change in this world (leaders of industry, govt etc) they need to think in terms how do we make this world a better place and get rid of parasites.
Companies who make an x100 mark up on apparel product are the real organized crime. How are you going to make & ship a shoe for less than 10 bucks but sell it to me for 200 - 500?
What's really weird, is that the AmazonBasics brand is almost always decent quality, while the "name brand" (often counterfeit), is more expensive and inferior. So... Yeah, that's interesting.
Yeah, especially for small and cheap products. I couldn't even figure out which was the genuine product so I gave up & didn't buy what I wanted online. At least at shops I can check it physically before buying.
@@angelas5099 yeah anything China made and has a name like AOMEASOU, or something weird is just a knockoff or really cheap product, not many quality items on there
@@_baller Nooo many have very english sounding names too. Worst of all, they all had same/very similar pictures for the product. And most of them had low ratings too haha.
Some of us can't afford designer products. We know what we are buying. No business lost. Moreover, they are produced in the same factories in Asia as the original.
Amazon should be held accountable for allowing counterfeits to be sold on their platform.
100%
@Skynet half the time, those items are made in the same exact factory. Sometimes they clean parts, many times they only remove branding and just sell it with a different name. Factories in China don’t care about US copyright laws. In China, doing that is not illegal at all…. In fact, the government seems to reward intellectual property theft for the betterment of China.
Absolutely, the lack of accountability for businesses that facilitate this is what allows it to continue. Unless the true cost of goods (including fossil fuels) is realized the capitalism is a recipe for the disaster that is beginning to befall us all now. The only solution in a capitalist society is to fine companies well beyond the profit they enjoyed from committing their fraud. $10,000,000 fine for $100,000,000 profit, wish I had that opportunity.
Otherwise known as "Amazon Basics"
I wish I could find counterfeit rayban wayfarers
that counterfit drug thing is scary
Michael Snedker until you realize that the same drug here is so much cheaper in China
NO WE WANT REAL DRUGS, WHERE'S THE LINE ???
@@516throwapot define "real drugs"
LSD is a huge issue. LSD itself is one of the safest drugs out there in terms of toxicity, but a lot of counterfeits (25i NBOME) are being sold as acid. A lot of these counterfeits are technically legal (because they have different molecular structure), but they can cause a lot more harm than the real deal
The problem with counterfeit drugs isnt a problem with China shipping them to us, it's a problem with our healthcare system, if health care and drugs were affordable or even reasonably priced, you wouldnt have this kind of problem.
I used to buy EVERYTHING off Amazon but recently I’ve dramatically reduced my purchases. Anything critical like a switch or a motor I can’t trust to purchase from them. I’ve purchased car polish and even tooth paste which turned out to be counterfeit. Buying locally again.
That's terrible. Counterfeit toothpaste sounds scary. No way of knowing what's in it.
🧐💡🙏🏿
@@MJ-gm7km they fake everything now i alone got fake nail polish, hair products and vitamins literally the most random things i can’t trust anything of there anymore. Shane they used to be amazing now not so much
Counterfeit... is kinda awesome... You're looking at it the wrong way... Often it comes from china either way. You're just not having some American businessman raise the price.... for kinda no (good) reason. If they aren't gonna pay the factory workers more with that extra price... I'm simply not paying it.
The drug thing sucks... ill admit, but the hate is so misguided... Why not create affordable pills instead of making people have counterfeit basically be the only option.
@@daralove6174 that’s nice in theory, but counterfeit items aren’t exact copies, they are just trying to look like the real thing.
A lot of counterfeit goods are made with dangerous materials and ingredients, because they are cheaper (no testing requirements if you are making a fake version of something else). Testing of seized make-up, clothing, jewellery and household items often shows high levels of bacteria, lead, cadmium and lots of other nasty stuff. Counterfeit medication and vitamins often don’t contain any of the actual medicine or vitamins you are paying for, so it’s literally a scam.
I would prefer to know that the products I buy are being made safely and effectively, in a controlled environment, rather than brushing my teeth with lead or salmonella…. 🤷🏻♀️
I’m not saying that real products are beyond reproach, but if Nike or Colgate use dangerous materials they are going to get fined, forced to recall or you can sue them. They are liable for any dangerous items, no such protection with fakes.
I've been an Amazon user since 2002 and counterfeiting has become the main problem for me. Even high-tech stuff like hard drives get counterfeited now, and of course the fake products are super low quality. I can't even buy computer stuff on Amazon anymore because literally most of it is fake. It is Amazon's responsibility to stop counterfeit products on their platform and they have failed at that.
Do you buy at NewEgg now?
I agree, Amazon needs to be held accountable END OF STORY!
They are not forcing you to buy
@@susanangelcakes5384 Thanks, I have chosen to buy the expensive stuff from source even if it cost more.
Amazon is doing their part to stop it. It’s not always that easy
I ordered a brand name video mic from Amazon a while back. Upon opening the box I found the mic packed in a ziplock bag with an inkjet printed instruction sheet. I sent it back to Amazon as it was an obvious counterfeit and ordered the mic directly from the company. Same price as Amazon and it arrived in a printed box suitable for display on a store shelf, a slick instruction manual and catalog, an extension cable, a fake leather carrying bag, and stickers with the company logo. The company also had a "beware of counterfeits" warning on their web site with an illustration of exactly what they included with each purchase. The problem is that bad.
They should add badges to certain stores that are the actual/ real/ official product. The company has to have paperwork/ proof that it’s the official company. It may help a little
Or authorized seller of that product which requires more cooperation between Nike/Reseller/Amazon but yeah they need to something
like the blue check mark on twitter
It’s to easy to replicate profiles with a blue check. Look at how many fake accounts there are on social media.
@@MultiKumar321 that won’t happen as so many politicians have deep financial connections with Chinese businesses, to include current president and his family. He’s not the only one, both republicans and democrats are connected to the Chinese, while the regular citizens end up paying for it.
@@motherofdragons5287 Name a common brand name that doesn't have their products manufactured in China or some other foreign country. It has nothing to do with the politicians. America's manufacturing base died decades ago, because corporations wanted to save money on labor.
I work in the textile industry and know about machinery and garment production techniques. I lived in China for a year and a half. The US will never be able to stop the flow of 1:1 to counterfeits. This is the highest quality tier in the counterfeiting world. China is a very complicated web of relationships called guanxi. Factory owners have these relationships and can get information and trade secrets, use the same labor, use the same machinery, and source the same materials to manufacture a let’s say Dior, YSL, etc handbag or any other garment. Even if an item is made in Italy, fabric or another raw material or even perhaps the machinery used to make the garment comes from China. Zoje supplies equipment to a factory in Romania that manufactures down jackets for Moncler. Anyone reading this comment probably has something on “made in China.” IP laws are not enforced in China. If you trademark in the US, it is not protected in China. You have to trademark in China plus have the resources to combat counterfeiting in China.
How hard is it to trademark in China?
BlackSheeep very. There is an npr episode
The fake Opal/Diamond/Emerald/Ruby/Sapphire is obvious with a loupe a factory made it. Glad people want natural products over factory things still.
S A o wow.. I personally have no problem buying fakes. It all made by slave labor anyway.
Yes because of the stupid big brands sell it so expensive you should be thankful to Chinese for cheaper versions of the big name brands items I think they should not banned counterfeit goods if they do then ask the stupid big brands to make there real products cheaper for everyone for example Rolex Watch new $8000 but Chinese make exactly replica they can sell it for $200-$300 thats fair reasonable prices specially those stupid luxury name brands that sell in high price they should all sell it LOWER PRICE IF U DONT WANT CHINESE PEOPLE TO MAKE COUNTERFEIT GOODS BECAUSE HIGHER PRICE ONLY SOME PEOPLE CAN AFFORD THATS WHY CHINESE PEOPLE CLEVER because the regular people can’t afford it so if u don’t want counterfeit goods so ask those big real luxury brands to sell there real products CHEAP USE COMMON SENSE for example real Rolex watch cost $8000 make it for $500-$1000 the real Rolex watches so those big real brands need to step up and lower prices that are more affordable even the luxury brands like Gucci
"US businesses are going out of business because of counterfeit" OH GOOD, you wanted to have cheap labor and get 200% return? You get what you deserve.
I get what you're saying and for the most part I agree; but not every company exploits cheap Chinese labor. And the ones that don't are the ones that are hardest hit by cheap counterfeits.
Exactly!
I think you drastically underestimate development costs. Yeah there is a huge markup purchase price vs manufacturing. However that’s not the full story. Some products take many years and millions of dollars to get to market. If someone can copy that product there is no incentive to spend money on developing a better or even adequate product. So instead of shoes that run a 2hr marathon without injury we get something that hurts to stand in for 5 min.
@@JSchroederee that's true but irrelevant and not contradictive to techyk comment. His comment is very broad. He could be saying that if you didn't outsource development and manufacturing to China maybe the design wouldn't slip out the back door. If you developed and manufactured here then you have counterfits waiting at the ready to ship when the product is launched. That can only happen if the design went out the back or side door of a firm or factory. If they had to physically reverse engineer something it would take many many months after product launch to do so.
part of it is the consumer demanding cheap goods too.
In all fairness, virtually every single item is made in china including the “originals”
To a extent, though i have seen a large amount of products that were made in house outside of china. That got counterfeited almost instantly based on screen shots of the original product. Intellectual property and copyright law is almost non-existent in China, to the point that there are even knockoff theme parks from anything from Disney to World of warcraft in china. That's not to say that some of the knockoffs cant be good, some products like the Roomba clones actually got vastly improved when they started copying them (Like the xiaomi copies were one of the first to start using LIDAR systems for room mapping)
Nowadays everything's fake... i got fake friends too!
So u buy friends online
I imported a counterfeit wife from china. Sure it came without boobs, but it works.
Have a fake like
Fake love.
is our life fake too?
Amazon is terrible with counterfeit items. It is so easy for “sellers” to ship their counterfeit goods to Amazon to be sold by them so it looks legit.
Consumers need to also wake up. If something is too good to be true, and ships from China, it's most likely a fake.
@@banagan4604 Amazon prices fluctuate, ur also arent safe by buying directly from Amazon, cuz its usually just coming from third party tru Amazon fulfillment
And yet people are shopping more and more on Amazon. There's no pressure for Amazon to stop.
Atleast w amazon you can return. The as seen on tv its literally impossible to retun. They put you on hold so you just give up. I hope china destroys the as seen on tv company.
I work for a company that sells on Amazon and Amazon does take counterfeit reports somewhat seriously. A customer claimed we sold a counterfeit even though we are supplied by the manufacturer. Amazon required us to submit invoices showing that we had purchased that item directly from the manufacturer before the date the complaint was made. It also has to show a quantity that reflects the amount of sales we had, so we can't just sell 100 of the item and then only show that 50 of them came from the manufacturer. After a certain amount of reports, they'll deactivate your offer on a listing.
But, I do think it would be more effective if they required all sellers to submit invoices before they are even allowed to sell the items.
I’m about done with Amazon. They are shaping up to be a very low quality replacement of the retail industry they decimated. Blatant counterfeit products everywhere. Constantly peddling low quality third-party sellers. “Prime” shipping takes 7 days. We don’t even have to get into the reputation they have with their workers. Hope they fall hard.
They don't offer much of anything on Prime anymore. Iam done with them.
Amazon has turned into an online flea market. But without the organized crime aspect.
It must be totally different in the US. Prime is next day here in the UK. It becomes 2 day shipping during holidays or their special prime day/Black Friday stuff. I just don't buy from third party sellers, or anything that I've never seen in a store before to know if it's real.
Why is it even popuIar, it’s just prime features…etc, there’s literally tutorials on how to rip peopIe off, make very cheap and seII x10 the price, lowest quaIity, so many middIe men, during a warehouse phase everyone had horror stories there because they made them work so hard, it’s the same method, buy made in US or friendly, it’s very generic, although l Iean right this guy should of paid taxes.
Cant buy in amazon anymore, I just buy direct from the companies I like...
You said it. Plus Amazon does not have another party inspecting the items that end up in the fullfillment. The items come off the trucks, packed on the pallets, taken straight to the warehouse. Then stowed by a stower & picked by a picker, boxed then sent to a customer. No one checks to make sure someones homemade body cream has been tested by a lab. The warehouse is not temperature regulated for certain foods. Baby formula is not under lock and key, but it is in the stores. I can't believe mother's buy infant formula from Amazon. You can buy a pallet of shampoo that didn't pass inspection but still sellable and sell on Amazon. You find these items at flea markets, Dollar stores. People really should stop buying from fullfillment centers and start going back to old school shopping or buying from the site that produces the item/product.
I am careful of what I buy on Amazon. I did once get some ‘so called’ name brand batteries (which were the price that I paid in stores) and oh my, they were not. Those ‘new’ batteries started to very slowly ooze after the package was opened. I am not into name brand clothes, accessories, and other such very highly priced items, nor the obviously fake copies (some of the prices are soooo low that you can’t help but think that they scream ‘COUNTERFEIT’.
@@slcRN1971 In fact Amazon almost killing traditional stores is hurting many people. I only buy obvious products that hard to counterfeit on Amazon like protein product, vegetables powder and many more. Shoes, clothes and many more better bought in stores.
Amazon is KING of FAKES. Look at the sellers, not a SINGLE LEGIT Company name...A bunch of nobodies. Nobodies on top of nobodies. KING of FAKES.
@@mikef2811 It become like that, just likecany other online store also Walmart.
But what other big giant stores that can afford to pay their employees with minimum wages? Yup, no other else!
Those 2 giant stores will be the center of store in USA.
I don't like the fact about king of fake like they did, but let's face it, Amazon sold mosy of their products from China.
I am smart enough to buy which one of which one and I also use the $120 yearly prime for Music, Movie and free fast shipping which still cheaper than Apple music and others.
The big companies are the big scammers getting it made for 5$ but selling it for over 200 AKA NIKE..
So true
their a lot of other cost in the end they only made $2
That's economies of scale 😒
Are they putting a gun to your head to buy them?
And we're the stupid ones buying those items lol
amazon should take responsibility on the product they sell, they should also be "fined" for being negligent on selling counterfeit. big companies should not always be exempted to such things
they are complicit and willing
No, they need to be put in jail.
Don't use em
well once everybody went to manufacture in China this issue raised exponentially since the 80´s, so what is the solution? Manufacture in your own country
They won't do that!! To busy moving American jobs over seas.
Have fun paying $1 for a 2 cent tact switch.
just ask for bob unfortunately no workers will be willing to work for 3 dollars an hour
theres counterfeiters in usa
just ask for bob exactly. But the real reason for this is because money is hard to get. This video is encouraging people to buy real brand materials counterfeits, but some people buy them knowingly. Don't blame us-- money is the reason.
*Statement:* Amazon is "allowing brands to delete counterfeiters themselves"...
*Translation:* We are outsourcing the cost of enforcement to the businesses already experiencing losses due to our lack of oversight on 3rd party seller registrations.
This sounds like a great way to have legit companies get removed off the site by counterfeiters.
The companies are using this power to remove small sellers that purchased genuine products on clearance at normal stores and were selling them on Amazon. BulbHead is the worst offender I have heard about. I've had this happen to people I know with that brand in particular, and there is no recourse other than selling somewhere else.
@@ManMountainMetals and good luck with that. Amazon is basically a monopoly for online retail for non-mainstream products.
@@CynicalDriver eBay, but bulbhead was having listing removed from that platform also. It was the Christmas light projector for outside the house. You can finally move them at a flea market or auction then avoid that product...
@Nunya Business in the beginning... By doing what everyone else said was stupid. Now... Tactics like these.
Was Amazon's 3rd party marketplace a good idea? It has turned me off from buying a lot of stuff on Amazon. I would prefer that Amazon was the only seller on their market place.
Amazon gets their products from marketplace sellers and stores in its own warehouses so you’re still getting those unregulated sellers
You know it’s bad when a product from aliexpress has better quality than one from Amazon 😂 happened to me
At least you can return products purchased on Amazon easily
Alli express stinks
Heck, I got a pair of headphones from their website a couple of weeks ago, and they fell apart after a couple of weeks. I told this guy named Jim Browning about it. Hope he sees it.
@@AyTimetraveler that's the point genius.
Brands use the Chinese for cheap labor, Chinese use brands to make a living. 🤷🏿♂️
Slick
American brands employing Chinese factory workers is a consensual agreement. Chinese companies ripping off American products is theft. Intellectual property theft. There’s a big difference
Good one! 😀
Guess you've never heard of child labour then.
@@laugoyard spot on
TBH, y'all lost a ton of my sympathy when you defended "As Seen on TV" merch.
The products work though
Usually trash you don't need that just clutters your house
100%
@@123TeeMee the only reason it may be trash is because you probably purchased a counterfeit.
Right!!! How about make products that work like your infomercials first.... THEN we will talk about caring about you losing money to counterfeiting.
Also, the “real” versions are made in shops next door to the “fake” ones and are most likely using very similar materials/design/production. Change my mind.
exactly the same
Totally depends. I can buy a pair of 2 dollar sneakers, draw a big swoosh on them and sell them as Nikes. That's a low quality counterfeit.
@@thesaint8400 exact same leather and materials for brand name vs generic. The only difference is the brand logo stamped on
@@Aliens-Are-Our-Friends2027 simply not true for all fakes. They're all graded and prices according to quality. Yes, some things are literally the same but one may have a logo on it
EmperorJuliusCaesar Thats not an iPhone though, just a smartphone
I do not mind making cheaper copies
But do not like them passing them off as the real thing
That is fraud.
khankrum1 you really need to watch 4:20 / 5:50 again to see who is being harmed by copies.
It is still intellectual property theft.
no ip laws are fraud!! ur brainwashed by criminals ur laws written by criminals!! ur logic is that of a criminal
@@mnunez1618 dude ur fully brainwashed by criminals!! ip laws are absolutely absurd unless branding is vital to our species survival!! ip laws are literally pushing us into the next major extinction event!! your logic is totally flawed as ur programmed to consume 100 more yrs of gucci or 100000 of life???? i know what id choose!!
@@mnunez1618 You know what's theft charging the same item for over 1000% for the market price in the US when the cost of manufacturing one cost a few dollars.
It’s simply what happens when you run a sales business that has you sell products that are never actually seen, touched or let alone ever tested for quality, safety or even make sure it’s legal
"Met up with Trump at his golf course". Isn't this the same guy that critisized other presidents for playing that same sport?
Yes but Obama when to play golf more than any other Presidents combined Trunp barely goes
@@armitylekhona585 yes, "Obama plays golf more than any one alive". What a trumpian thing to say xb
ARMITYLE KHONA I don’t know where you got your information from but you’re absolutely wrong! Trump in just his first term in office has gone golfing more than the last couple presidents combined!
@@armitylekhona585 this is fake news. In reality Trump went golfing on the tax payer's dime more in his first year than Obama did in 8 years.
But Republicans are ok with it since Trump is a republican and gave them tax cuts.
@@armitylekhona585 what's worse is that when It Obama went golfing he always went close by to DC. It's doesn't cost the secret service much to get a motorcade to go nearby.
Trump insists on blowing 100s of millions of tax payer dollars so he can go to Mar a Lago in Florida.
AS SEEN ON TV are some of the shittiest products I have ever used...
OKAYYYY you’re not wrong, they look trash too
OKAYYYY I don’t like your profile pic lol it creeps me out
Typically they charge a minimum of ten times their cost.
It's 2022 now and this is still a huge problem especially on amazon, the amount of fake products I've purchased and sent back from that site is ridiculous. Amazon's big promises have amounted to nothing and I'm starting to move away from using their site and instead buying direct from the manufacturer if possible especially when it comes to buying expensive electronics. I can see the golden age of Amazon dwindling one day in the future as consumer trust is slowly being eroded.
So why do you use them?
It seems that a lot still patronize the counterfeits because it's cheap.
Exactly. And why wouldn't you? Nobody can tell the difference. My only gripe about counterfeit Nike shoes is that whilst they look awesome for $40...the materials are so cheap that they are actually super uncomfortable
It's not that's it's cheap, it's that someone else took your product and it profiting from it. They didn't make a better, cheaper, competing product, they're profiting from your brand, and your design!
Henry Kirk not to mention in 3 months they fall apart
Paul Williams where you get your shoes?? All my Nike sneakers are reps and they hold up just as well as retail
Big corporations don't like counterfeits because they don't like the competition to keep prices low because they're greedy, so they blame the counterfeits as the reason for product mark-ups. They want us to think if people stop buying counterfeits that original brand names won't be as expensive - but that's a lie. They're just trying to get rid of any competition so they can mark up their products at whatever ridiculous rate they want when there's no other options to purchase from.
I can tell you that a counterfeit water filter for my refrigerator has cost me thousands of dollars. I would have never bought them if I had any idea they were counterfeit and the package looked just like a legitimate whirlpool water filter. I have a lawyer suing because of this. It broke while we were out of town for 3 days and I estimate that it was poring water into my kitchen for 2 full days.
How did you find out it was counterfeit?
@@chocolatechipslime because my insurance company hired a lawyer and the law office sent the filter into a testing lab.
Update?
@@TT-jg8ju the lawyer came back and said there was nothing they could do. Neither the seller or Ebay was responsible. I NEVER will use Ebay again because of this and I warn anyone that will listen. All said and done, it cost me $7,000.
Amazon should also be principally liable for counterfeits products traded on their E-Commerce.
Lets keep it real. Some counterfeit goods, esp. clothing, shoes and bags are of higher quality than the original. Even some luxury goods makers were tricked into admitting this in the early 2000s.
True
Sorry not true. Counterfeiters take shortcuts.
Depends on what it is. But copies that aren't technically cointerfeit but have the look and feel and still rip off are as American as apple pie. Who buys generic cola that has the look and feel of coca cola and often differs very little. Thats still dishonest but legal but American as Tony Soprano.
Yes, but in terms of electronics and toys, it's dangerous to get the fakes
@@account-now-closed Big Fact
Sad part is a fake LV bag is probably as good as the real one but doesn’t cost 4k
The sad part are the people who spend 4K on a skin bag.
Get that replica bag for $100 and have $3.9k in it is way smarter
they are the exact same no probably about it, if american brands are going to exploit cheep labour and the consumer its their own greedy fault!!ip and trade marks are absurd
Entertainment Media they’re not even leather mostly. Just waxed canvas
I doubt it. Counterfeit item's quality is noticeable. There's a lot here in the PH.
Amazon: We are fighting bad actors.
Me: Me too. I avoid buying from websites where warehouse employees are forced to pee in bottles.
There are entire counterfeit brands that post on Amazon under the store name of the actual brand. I'm always willing to pay more on the brands actual website for this reason.
This is the same as war on drugs it's a losing war that will never end
Just like the war on drugs, they are fighting something they created and make money off.
amazon/ebay should ask sellers to upload their ID. that's what China sites do
@@Jk-db5pz it's a war that can never be won just like the "war on drugs" it's like trying to get rid of crime it just won't happen
@@twelve98 even if they do in the video they stated they make fake names fake business address.
@@NotEpoch they couldn't stop people from selling or using weed so they legalized it now they racking in the prophets and still can't stop drug dealers from selling it lol
It does appear that Amazon is a huge part of the problem.
I’m upset about the amount of counterfeits on Amazon. I want to buy the AUTHENTIC shampoo brand ... not the fake! Such a waste of time and money.
Jazz M. I guess you can say you don’t want the SHAM-POO, you demand the REAL- POO
So go to target
As long as you buy from Amazon you're part of the problem. Buy directly from the company you want to buy the item from!
@@Livetoeat171 Shopping on Amazon is way faster than registering and making a new membership on every company site out there on the Internet. I don’t want to have to submit my email and create a password for every product I want to buy from a different company.
The Chinese government needs to shut down counterfeiting in their own country. But I suspect that they either turn a blind eye to it, or even profit from it themselves.
@@Livetoeat171 how
When he said "Amazon" it got Donald Trump's attention because he hates Jeff Bezos 😅😂🤣.
We all hate Jeff Bezos cause he's an a**hole
Yes because of the stupid big brands sell it so expensive you should be thankful to Chinese for cheaper versions of the big name brands items I think they should not banned counterfeit goods if they do then ask the stupid big brands to make there real products cheaper for everyone for example Rolex Watch new $8000 but Chinese make exactly replica they can sell it for $200-$300 thats fair reasonable prices specially those stupid luxury name brands that sell in high price they should all sell it LOWER PRICE IF U DONT WANT CHINESE PEOPLE TO MAKE COUNTERFEIT GOODS BECAUSE HIGHER PRICE ONLY SOME PEOPLE CAN AFFORD THATS WHY CHINESE PEOPLE CLEVER because the regular people can’t afford it so if u don’t want counterfeit goods so ask those big real luxury brands to sell there real products CHEAP USE COMMON SENSE for example real Rolex watch cost $8000 make it for $500-$1000 the real Rolex watches so those big real brands need to step up and lower prices that are more affordable even the luxury brands like Gucci
Yes because of the stupid big brands sell it so expensive you should be thankful to Chinese for cheaper versions of the big name brands items I think they should not banned counterfeit goods if they do then ask the stupid big brands to make there real products cheaper for everyone for example Rolex Watch new $8000 but Chinese make exactly replica they can sell it for $200-$300 thats fair reasonable prices specially those stupid luxury name brands that sell in high price they should all sell it LOWER PRICE IF U DONT WANT CHINESE PEOPLE TO MAKE COUNTERFEIT GOODS BECAUSE HIGHER PRICE ONLY SOME PEOPLE CAN AFFORD THATS WHY CHINESE PEOPLE CLEVER because the regular people can’t afford it so if u don’t want counterfeit goods so ask those big real luxury brands to sell there real products CHEAP USE COMMON SENSE for example real Rolex watch cost $8000 make it for $500-$1000 the real Rolex watches so those big real brands need to step up and lower prices that are more affordable even the luxury brands like Gucci
@@FunnyVideos-jm8fo sounds like you are either Chinese or a seller of counterfeit goods.... which one?
None. tell me the people with low income why they can’t afford the real brands because they are expensive so the real brands should dramatically lower there prices I’m serious.
It's a cesspool of fake products and company rejects, learned the hardway. Not sure what is original on there anymore.
Easy fix. Stop making the shoes over there so they don't have access to the mass resources to reproduce your shoes.
They will get their hands on the shoes.
Companies that out source to save money to maximize there profit quarter over quarter are short sighted and long term this had to happen knowingly out sourcing jobs and then complaining about going out of business makes no sense
Thing is they produce the machines that are used to produce the product most of the time. A lot of the raw materials are produced there. Even fashion items made in different country like Italy are still counterfeited. They will still be able to do it. Won’t stop them will only take them a little longer but they will still counterfeit it.
Amazon and eBay make a profit from everything including counterfeit goods. The simple rule they could implement is that if you can prove that item is counterfeit you don't have to return it to the seller which would increase the risk for the seller of such goods. But from what I heard even if its clear that goods are fake, the buyer still forced to send it back io the seller in order to get refund who can then resell it elsewhere.
I don't know about Amazon as returns go directly to their warehouse, but with eBay returns, the address on the account is usually some random house or store room in a huge business block of units, and every time I've needed to return a counterfeit product they've just refused the delivery and it's eventually made its way back to me. They know they can't resell it so it's worthless to them. Aliexpress are the same, a unit in a block, totally different address to their PayPal so they can scam customers out of money as PayPal will side with them even when you have tracking. But they don't resell what you return, assuming they even accept the package, at least not on the sites.
There's plenty of counterfeit items sold by Amazon themselves. It isn't just 3rd party sellers on their platform.
Yes, I'm referring to items with seller = Amazon.
Interesting that they bring up Nike at 2:37 🤔, I wonder if Nike leaving Amazon had anything to do with issues around counterfeits. A big brand like Nike publicly leaving Amazon clearly spells out to consumers that if you're buying Nikes on Amazon, they're fake. Our channel recently published a video on the new IP laws introduced in the phase 1 trade deal which should make it easier for US companies to pursue action against Chinese operators with blatant disregard for intellectual property laws. If we really want to solve this issue China🇨🇳 needs to cooperate.
Nike on Amazon is same quality and a lot cheaper
@@dubious6718 Why buy Nike on Amazon when you know it's fake? Wouldn't some other rando no name Chinese shoes on there be the same?
@@ApplicoInc Nobody cared if it's fake if it looks and feels the same and why would they? Nike doesn't even pay good wages to the people who make the shoe.
Or just a third party seller
Good on Nike...
Rolex watch is not $2,000 lol. This guy must have bought a fake one he thought was at a good deal
you can buy 1:1 rolex knockoffs for less than $1000. the quality is so good, most authorized dealers cant distinguish between the 2
@@1984-f7q it's tough to say which product is counterfeited because the manufacturers deliberately tried to make their goods beautiful and functional
Youre dumb, you can buy a rolex for 2 grand
You can’t buy any new Rolex from an A D for $2,000.
@@BigJAllDay21 chill out, off the cuff DUMB, take it easy.
My prime membership ended 5 months ago. I never bothered to renew and haven't looked back. Averaged $500 a month purchasing on Amazon. Not missing anything, just using other places.
You guys are missing the point ...... "Expensive stuff" is the problem
That is THE POINT. Original brands are made in China from original contract factory. Counterfeit also made in China from the other factories(usually the other factories hire original factory workers for QC). What is difference?
@@yanggun1004 Marketing-Thats the difference
@@yanggun1004 The difference is the people who DIDN'T design the product ended taking a portion of revenue from the people who did design and made them first. There are thousands of people working in that original brand. People's earning will get affected. It will be a snowballing effect. The more we buy counterfeit, the lesser original brands will come up. We will end up with poorer quality of stuff because the original brands quit the industry
@Love Champion I'd like to see your job getting taken away because someone took over your job with no qualification
@Love Champion spoken like a true Chinese counterfeiter! "winning is getting the sale" is a despicable perspective that shows little understanding about life. it is more an animal's approach, a predator who makes no societal contribution; another version of a thief. it is the view of a simpleton, a dullard.
I've stopped buying shoes from Amazon. I've had to send most back because they were knock-offs!! It's ridiculous that such a large company can't verify the authenticity of merchandise that they sell!!!
Nike for one doesn't sell on amazon. So be careful of buying nike there.
and let's not even talk about the fake review problem
So, isn't the real message that americans cannot afford the price of 'the real thing'. Let that sink in......
how were people living before globalization and the opening of borders to foreign goods? were we unhappy? couldn't people afford to buy goods manufactured domestically?
I'm confused. Were we supposed to feel sorry for the CEO of the Telebrand "As Seen On TV" company that rakes in billions of dollars a year with shoddy products and then complained to Donald Trump about other companies who are making counterfeit copies of their shoddy products and selling them at a cheaper price? If you wanted to evoke empathy from a viewer, you should have stuck to the "small businesses are suffering" angle and focused on the effect of small (or even medium-sized) business owners.
Not everyone is envious and spiteful like you, the main purpose is that counterfeits are killing profits and innovations for both large and small businesses. Nobody is immune. Trump is actually taking efforts to tackle the issue, don't let your bitterness lose sight of that.
Juju Bean na won’t work either. What small businesses? Target?
Where's the "surprised pikachu" meme. For all these sellers crying about China bootlegging, their products after those same workers got off that sweat shop shift. From making those businesses products, and now are trying to make "side money" using the skills they learned?
This.
1. Not all companies use Chinese labor. 2. You’re ignoring the fact that research and development is expensive. 3. You’re ignoring the counter factual, it’s not America who keeps low income countries poor. Blame leaders like Mao who killed more people than Hitler did.
Let me take a wild stab in the dark and say you aren't a business owner lol
@@calebpaddack7450 Best competitor wins. If that means the fake is beating you then thats just capitalism.
Everyone wanted the free market. What's wrong did you not like what you got when it happened?
@@scwirpeo it's only a free market when the customer buying the goods knows what they are getting. A lot of the time the consumer is unaware that they are buying a fake and don't know the mistake until it doesn't hold up long term. Amazon has said they lose hundreds of millions of dollars because people create fake pages for brands and sell knock-offs as real. I don't mind when the consumer picks A over B. I do mind when people claim they are selling A and in reality, it's B. That's fraud, not capitalism.
In addition to counterfeits, some Amazon sellers repackage old products as new. I got the LOTR Extended Edition Blu Ray box set, sold as “new” from Amazon. What came was a clearly used set with broken casing, dirty discs, and bent leaflets.
Shipped it back and went to Best Buy instead.
And they're still selling obvious fake movies to this day. I really want the Underworld 4k set but they stopped making it. Of course it's still available on Amazon through a 3rd party seller. The same seller sells a ton of other random "brand new" items like records, movies, Legos , and so on. All items that are known to be counterfeited regularly.
lots and lots of counterfeit Samsung phone chargers and cables on Amazon ... some don't work right out of the package, they're not even useable counterfeits
I finally found cords that last more than a month. Forget brand name though. More money but last longer. Been boycotting Chinese goods for many many years knowing they were junk unless there's no other choice and never last long.
There were crappy Chinese high-current extension cords that reviews said were catching fire. It's not JUST knock off shirts and shoes. Some of this stuff is just complete garbage and some is dangerous. Remember when they had asbestos in cat food or something like that?
Funny the host is wearing one of the most counterfeited clothing brands on the market.. Canada Goose.
Cheol Su Yang And?
@@ShayMarie.00 Just go to a sports store during Spring. You'll get a good Columbia down jacket for $300.
and if the conunterfeit...is she?
Some products sold on Amazon are so inexpensive, that even if the consumer realizes that they got a counterfeit product, it isn't worth their time and effort to return it. That happened to me. I bought a replacement blade and screen for my razor, and received a used product that had been re-sealed. The hairs inside the clear plastic packaging made that obvious.
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@@livewellwitheds6885 some people don't even care they are getting a fake product, especially if it is super cheap and isn't something mechanical and doesn't break easily.
That's disgusting. But I believe it. Amazon is no longer reputable and we need to stop buying from them. I'd rather experience some inconvenience or even do without then continue supporting them. Most of their business is clearly with China.
If it's a cheap item, Amazon will often refund without return if you contact them, as it isn't cost effective for them to pay for and process the return either. Anything that isn't sold by Amazon on the listing is a risk. Just don't buy from third party sellers. Amazon will refund literally anything if they sold it to you, and they'll even pay to have it collected from your front door.
The true lie here is "a brand name is synonymous with quality".
Not always. Put a counterfeit pair of shoes on vs name brand and you’ll see the difference.
Melvin E. with Soul Sense Ministries Differences in minor details most of the time, but I'm talking more about a third option : mid-range brands that don't care much about logos and being a status symbol but use materials that are as good as those of ""high end"" brands. Also, since gaining their notoriety a lot of big brands lowered their quality in the last few years : it's just an illusion of quality based on reputation and not worth it anymore.
Because according to your counterfeit brand-name goods are actually better. The brand you choose is the reputation of the item you’re buying.
Seen plenty of cases where the "generic product" did far superior to the "brand product".
Casus: literally all my shoes in the past 8 years.
In the 8 years I've gone through 2 pairs of shoes from "no name" brands, my friends on average have gone through 6 pairs :^)
Or with greed
What are fake goods when almost everything is made in china.
Good comment. Either real or fake, as long as people want and/or need them. the Chinese will make those products to sell,. After all, it is about supply and demand.
oh wait til the grammar police see this one
Lol, that's so true. US companies take advantage of Chinese labor... but don't rip-off our intellectual property. The company's literally give them the blue prints to everything. Cost $11 to make some Jordan's... we buy them for $80-$350. Resell market and limited items also add to this craz. Seriously, you have shoes that cost $11 to make... sold for $190 by Nike (limited release)... resell market $300-$4000. That's ridiculous. The Chinese and American people are getting screwed over and we're just supposed to take it.
DONT BUY CHINESE PRODUCTS OR ANYTHING FROM CHINA TILL THIS VIRUS IS OVER
@Riki Rikin kanayin yep
If the Chinese government are NOT stamping this out add an import tax. The CCP are part of the issue. In Australia all imports via EBay are subject to the goods and services tax of 10%.
honestly, a 20 000 USSD watch is already a crime xD
Why? It takes a talented person to make a watch of such high quality and the materials also cost alot of Money
teetehi yeah but why would one need a 20,000 watch lol
@@autisticchoppa3589 because they are a beautiful piece of art and are really accurate and something you buy 1 time and lasts for generations
@@autisticchoppa3589 Not meaning to be rude, but it's not really your business if someone wants to spend a ton of money on a super nice watch. I wouldn't myself, but if some multimillionaire wants to do so, I don't care. Making those high end watches employs some people, and if purchased in a state with a sales tax, the sale will provide the state with a pretty good chunk of tax revenue.
@@autisticchoppa3589 why do people spend money on jewelry or precious metals?
10:07
" How many more brick and mortar retailers need to go out of business before somebody goes after Amazon? "
They are going out of business BECAUSE of Amazon. NOT the counterfeiters!! ha!
Amazon isn't going anywhere there is no reason why it would go lol what's wrong with a company actually giving people what they want
those business is weak to begin with..... good luck get you next jordan on online since it just bot bot bot...
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!
@@Utoo4200 i take it you never graduated from a reputable college. I'll dismiss myself now.
@TH-cam Troll Imagine thinking that because someone said 1 comment about a company that they are or must think that they are an economics expert? Who's the idiot here? It ain't me....
Not hard for the Chinese to produce counterfeit products of goods. The big brand names actually have their stuff manufactured there at insanely low costs, then sell them in their home markets at premium prices. Often the counterfeits are of similar quality (at times better) for a more reasonable profit to themselves.
correct not all fake goods are low quality some are even better
Companies could give Amazon a list of approved sellers that are registered with their company and then if someone comes along and puts an item up for sale that is not one of those approved companies, they are flagged as counterfeit (or at least "suspicious"). Also, items are tracked from departure to final destination. Can't this be used to determine if the source is the actual place the item is made or warehoused?
Great idea
That officer can probably work at StockX or GOAT: he’s spotting fakes like it's nothing lol
I was banned from amazon for complaining on Facebook about Chinese counterfeit we bought off of amazon, I also received a 30 day ban on Facebook for this same incident even though the product we bought was counterfeit and everybody knew it yet I was the one punished for saying something, pretty sad world we live in, ill go off one of these days kaboom....
Trustpilot won't remove your review.
I wondered if that was something Amazon would do. How long is the ban for?
1:1 aka exact copies are actually insane. They are made in the same factories, by the same workers, from the same materials as the originals, and being sold for 1/10 the price.
bakayaro no such thing. Common myth
Zyzz unbranded GoPro look it up literally a fraction of the price because it doesn’t say GoPro same factory and everything
wes west you act as if GoPro cameras are unique in the first place.. it’s just a name-brand sports camera.
@@out_on_bail
It's uncommon, but it does happen.
She’s wearing counterfeit Canada goose jacket
Amazon regularly gets reports on counterfeit products from consumers and they do nothing about it.
She flexing on us with that rEaL Canada goose jacket
It looks ugly af
Real fake
😂
I’m copping a High Quality - Rep tomorrow for 1/3 of the price 🙏💫
Vizions TV You are as fake as the jacket.
Most of these "fake" products use the same materials/production methods and are assembled in same factory or industrial areas as the real ones.
If you dont think these major corporations don't just have a bunch unused materials/already made unsold products laying around then the counterfeit industry wouldn't be this huge
Not true. You think Nike doesn’t control their own factory in china. You have no clue.
El San Miguel same-factory replicas are extremely rare and almost non-existent
@@SunkJakeIsland not true man do some research
COLLECTOR30 ..I am a buyer of replicas, the best replicas are generally Korean but still use different factories. You have the burden of proof, provide evidence for your claim.
I’ve been noticing this problem since 2018 and it’s ridiculous. Some people get chemical burns from products and I’ve gotten a counterfeit perfume before.
Is it really counterfeit if everything is made in China anyway?!
My exact thought.
its the laws that are fraud not the counterfeits
Provuze The US should be trying to beat China at their own game instead of trying to get China to play the US game. China is the biggest country in the world, they are not concerned with US law.
At some point in the near future, China will lead the world in new innovation for all goods. The rest of the world should counterfeit tf out of everything they produce!
Provuze Yep and different countries play by different rules! It’s a waste of time complaining about China when they’ve been doing this for as long as I can remember.
I recall a story about a guy who went to China to have his idea produced on the cheap and when everything was set and ready to go problems suddenly started popping up out of nowhere and production was delayed for like two months... _During_ that time counterfeits started popping up and when he went after them he found out that the counterfeiters were basically the guys he paid for to do his stuff but instead sold it under a local brand. He paid for everything so someone else could reap the benefits...
@05:15 With both the products and AND the packaging basically looking identical I'd say you're to blame yourself for outsourcing your crap for production to a country whose vocabulary does not know the meaning of _counterfeit._ If Serpentza ( the South Afrikan guy on his bike riding through China ) is to believe then stealing someones idea is apparently considered some form of honoring the creator - With a mentality like that, why would anyone be surprised about this counterfeit issue?
I hardly purchase on Amazon now. Big box retailers have matched their competitive prices and you know you’re not getting a fake
It should be simple - before the product can be sold on eBay or Amazon - the official company should submit an 'allowed' list of sellers.
I will never buy makeup on Amazon after watching beauty vloggers talking about this and comparing products.
Also supplements. When I bought in store in works, but bought in Amazon it no effect. Then returned in buying the same supplement at store and it works! I learned my lesson.
Not to mention, people are buying fakes at a much lower price and buying the real item at a store. Then they return the fake and get the price difference and the real product. Starting to see this happen with wigs and hairpieces because its become a huge business since covid started.
eBay and Amazon: we will stop counterfeiters
PS5 scammer: we sell you a picture of the PS5 on EBay and Amazon.
If original products hadn't been so expensive, then there would be no need to buy these fake ones that are cheap and decent quality
@Jane what about insulin
Any form of 'segregation' will give rise to an alternative for those left out to be a part too.
Or... [Here's a crazy idea]
Make anyone selling on amazon have an LLC in America.
And pay American taxes...
So start a LLC where you're reselling items you purchased elsewhere online?? Soo basically start your own Amazon??? Please stop thinking...
Having a requirement that sellers have an LLC in the country that they are selling in essentially removes international trade from question, basically meaning that you can no longer sell items internationally.
As an individual consumer, I get so fed up that I don't really use amazon anymore (or it's not my go-to at least). They care so much about the consumer experience, except for this giant flaw.
It's easy if you want to solve it, if a brand doesn't want counterfit products, they need to embed a unique 'non-counterfeit ID' into the product, and when someone wants to sell a product on amazon / ebay, they must enter the products id, or similar
Exactly, so obviously they don't really care about the counterfeits that much.
Fake 10$
Real 150$
i’ll go with the 10$ and put 140$ in my saving account.
LEE JIA JE - can you explain how the money will return to me ?
@LEE JIA JE - well said bro. They should learn economics :/
LEE JIA JE - Nice story but i will continue to save my money 😉
LEE JIA JE - technically it kinda goes both ways. People buys fake which supports China’s economy. But we also get tons and tons of International Chinese Student and visitor who spend way more than Americans spend buying fakes. We see what we like and we pick it. Chinese want that American college degree and we like their cheap stuff. But the companies in the US themselves spend money in China to produce those goods. Not our fault if you gave the people in China the recipe, and in return, those people replicate it and give the consumers a better price.
Doctor Sarcastic This is is no way an empirically-supported statement. Chinese tourism accounts for approximately $200m annually to the US. Counterfeit goods from China alone cost US businesses and consumers $1.4bn a year. And that’s before we even get into the PRC’s IP theft - $225 billion to $600 billion. A year. Every year.
And a lot of that theft? Provided by your so-called benevolent students, guest workers, and others.
China is a kleptocracy and we’re the ones getting mugged over and over.
I had a nice business on Amazon and eBay selling German auto wiring tape. The counterfeit market killed me. Our government is at fault for this problem.
Very sad to hear
Where’s the protection for the consumers??? I get companies are prone to lose money, but if counterfeiting is as rampant as they say we the consumer are the ones at risk too if we want “real” goods.
Counterfeits are sold at a substantial amount less than the "real" item. If you buy something that is waaaaay cheaper than what it should be, it's fake.
Seems to me, the online e-commerce should have a better vetting process of their third party vendors! Also, fulfilling US payments on international point of sales after merchandise has been authenticated would elevate a majority of counterfeiters.
My advice....search on Amazon and then go directly to the official company website and buy there.
I purchase mostly from eBay when I shop online. But only from manufacturers stores. Best Buy and the like. And lots from Goodwill. Mostly books dvds artwork etc.
Amazon doing a poor job of catching these people
It's not that they're doing a poor job. It's cause they don't really care. At the end of the day, Amazon will still make money regardless if it's authentic or fake.
Cause they don't really care, as long as they're making money.
Free market
Actually they do care . it caught quite often . it just hard to filter all of it . some buildings are doing 15 million units in a week . there a lot that gets done just to get that one item to a person . I think about that when i order it insane to think about. If you ever seen the process in one building let alone at least three it might take to get your item to you . IXD ,fulfillment and a delivery hub .
The guy on seen on Tv forgot to mention that on every package that he sells he charges for shipping and handling which dramatically increases the product price also he does not sell on amazon
If the multi-billionaires who produce the original products, took a respectable pay cut, and sold their products at respectable prices, there would be no market for counterfeit products.
It's not exactly counterfeit, theyre the ones who actually make the products. Call it the cost of the fair trade deal.
Uhh what? Lol
TheFalseHuman some are and some aren’t. Sometimes the exact factories will actually make legitimate discount versions for the name brand business that hired them, so what you’re buying at discount outlet stores are legitimate brands, only they were made to be cheaper. Then there are factories who were making legitimate versions, but the quality wasn’t so good so they’re set aside, not to be sold, since they’re technically defective, or at least, not to the high standards of the brand, but when no ones looking, factory workers resell the defective ones at a lower knockoff price. Then there are factories that do truly knock off merchandise and their quality is pretty bad, sometimes worse than what you paid for.
Maybe you should explain the fair trade deal to false human as well
Clothes, Shoes, Electronics.... I'm always trying to get it directly from the manufacturers website or walk-in to the store... But then again its hard to feel sorry for these greedy idiots. Pricing their products so high when it cost them so little to make...Amazon definitely needs to do a whole lot more to combat these fake sellers. E-bay???? Hell No!!! Haven't bought a dollar worth of item from that place for more than a decade.
When you send all your manufacturing overseas and then must send your materials and designs, do you really expect anything less?
Counterfeit products are good because they help poor people make money unlike the original product where rich get richer. I prefer counterfeit helps poor people.
@Jane lets legalize counterfeit, there will be no crime
@Jane its just making a imitation product, you are spending money to buy raw materials, labor , transportation of goods, time effort etc. Its a crime because law says that. And these laws are made to help rich get richer. Think Nike makes shoes by exploiting cheap labor in china for $7 to $9 and sells for about $80. Thats government supported law and legal, but not ethical.
At the end of day, people buy counterfeits because it’s cheaper. Make the products more affordable for consumers if you want to beat them
China has so many people so their labor costs are low. In the U.S., companies try to pay people a fair wage.
Well it's not every companies goal to make their products affordable. Luxury brands for instance wouldn't be prestigious or luxury if they were affordable. People only buy luxury knockoffs to appear like they can afford them. There are already plenty of companies that make cheaper alternatives, but most people will tell you they are not as good. It is all about trade-offs. You want something good you have to pay for it and vice versa.
As explained in this video, authentic goods are always more expensive because of the cost in R&D and advertisement. Let's say I spent $300k and 8 years on a PhD degree. I write a book and sell it for $20. You buy the book, make a copy and sell it for $3.99. You would obviously outsell me. You would profit off of my interlectual property at almost no cost. You only spent money on ink and paper while I spent years and tons of money in school plus ink and paper.
@@khanhhien06 I cant agree more with your example. Too many people are jumping to the conclusion on here that established reputable companies are charging higher prices because they can or they're greedy corporations. The research and development, advertising, warehousing, wages, plus the other expenses that these companies have to bare the burden of add up.
People, stop thinking so superficially and think about what your saying. These Chinese fraudsters are destroying our business and entrepreneurial spirit here.
@@sleendrvr When the reason the product costs more is so some executives can have another yacht it's hard to call it innovative spirit.
These days most of the R&D is done over seas where engineers make like 30kUSD. The costs are nearly nothing, they just like profit more than competition. Let free trade do it's job, if they can't compete they sink.
Problem that can easily be fixed by making platforms such as Amazon responsible for anything sold via their platforms...would force them to actually vet potential sellers behore they can join the platform...
Fighting it?? I want fake stuff. As long as it's decent quality IDC. Nobody needs to know it DOESN'T cost an arm and a leg!
Exacly my words
It's great to get stuff cheap but many businesses both small and large will loose incentive to innovate new technology and just take the path a least resistance to make a buck. Imagine if in nature most Animals primary way of succeeding was being a parasite then all life would collapse. I think that if you see good cheap fake stuff you should buy it as a consumer. That's called being wise and frugal. But for the big dogs, the people making change in this world (leaders of industry, govt etc) they need to think in terms how do we make this world a better place and get rid of parasites.
Companies who make an x100 mark up on apparel product are the real organized crime. How are you going to make & ship a shoe for less than 10 bucks but sell it to me for 200 - 500?
Matt S right!!!
Because people pay
because they know a lot of people are willing to pay and feeling proud wearing it
I stay away from third party sellers anymore. one, they tend to scalp the price and two there is a high risk of false reviews and counterfeiting.
Yeah amazon has a lot of Chinese knockoff items with diff brand names that are exactly the same...
What's really weird, is that the AmazonBasics brand is almost always decent quality, while the "name brand" (often counterfeit), is more expensive and inferior. So... Yeah, that's interesting.
Yeah, especially for small and cheap products. I couldn't even figure out which was the genuine product so I gave up & didn't buy what I wanted online. At least at shops I can check it physically before buying.
@@angelas5099 yeah anything China made and has a name like AOMEASOU, or something weird is just a knockoff or really cheap product, not many quality items on there
@@_baller Nooo many have very english sounding names too. Worst of all, they all had same/very similar pictures for the product. And most of them had low ratings too haha.
Some of us can't afford designer products. We know what we are buying. No business lost.
Moreover, they are produced in the same factories in Asia as the original.
Dip Jyoti Deka agree
I have counterfeit goods. I literally had no idea I bought counterfeit books.
I work at Amazon was told by another employee to be careful buying Jordans online, because they're fake. He wasn't lying!