Honestly all space marines are terrifying like imagine being some guardsman having just been saved in the nick of time from chaos marines by a group of loyalist marines and then watching as they take off their helmets and start eating the chaos marine's brains.
Holy shit, just imagine that without words. Only dismissive body language as they talked to each other in their helmets. Then, as they took off their helmets. The Guardsmen, exhausted from the terrifying battle. Saw their saviours take off their helmets and made the sign of the Aquilla. Was amazed by the perfection of their faces, so angelic, just like the pictures and statues. Only to then stop part way through making the sign as their saviours started bashing the heads of their misshapen former brethren open and feasting on the goo inside.
Not even just the part about them eating their brains. They’re terrifying in general because of how unbelievably rare they are. Many believe they’re just myths, and even more don’t realize Chaos Marines actually exist. Plus, most of the people that find out end up being massacred either by their saviors or the Inquisition. Seeing any Space Marine has been described as a breathtaking thing that just results in people kneeling in awe or tearing up at the realization the Emperor’s angels actually exist.
Scary loyalists really would make for great villains for a survival horror game/story. Imagine being an innocent civilian just trying to survive and escape from chapters like the Mortifactors, Carcarodons, or Red Talons.
Great idea. Let's make this game playable. Instead of an astardes, let's make it an initiate. You'll be chased my an insane, hulked out manchild originally perceived to be an ally. You can't fight it. Not directly, in any effective way. Its typically faster than you but takes a moment to react if occupied. due to its crazed state, it can be diverted or distracted. Open areas would be particularly dangerous, but its skills would change from time to time. If its crazed, its loud but more ferocious. If its lucid, its quieter.
The final boss are the Marines Malevolent Edit: Good Ending when the Mortifactors are the chasers _After masterfully avoiding the Mortifactors Chapter. You run into another Space Marine, traumatized and fatigued, you just sat there and accepted death but the space marine instead lifted you up on his shoulders and said “Come, this is no place to die.” As he carried you onto a thunderhawk waiting to take off. You look back at your savior and saw a bleeding heart insignia on the Marine’s pauldrons_
We need an episode for the "Worst Loyalist Chapter" finding the Space Marine chapter that even the most beleaguered and war torn Imperial world would be disappointed to see riding to their rescue
It's hands down the Marine Malevolent. Those are a hair's breadth from becoming renegades. They pretty much have the inquisition breathing down their neck all the time.
It’s still a crime that there has been no lore expansion on the ghoul stars. I hope wherever gw goes with new villains, races, and stories that the ghoul stars are the plot point from where they come from!
In some ways I would rather a lot wasn't specified with regards to the ghoul stars, since much of the terror of them comes from how little is known. Having a faction represent them could actually make them less scary by giving whatever is out there form. It might be cooler to have some books on the matter, since it isn't required to give a visual depiction and can cover one of a multitude of horrors that could exist.
Another thing about that battle between the Carcharadons and the night lords, the sharks actually caused the night lords to feel FEAR. How terrifying do you have to be to cause members of a legion of war criminals (who have been modified not to feel fear) to be afraid.
The flesh tearers were never part of the pentarchy of blood. Those are the flesh eaters. I made that mistake as well originally when reading about the war of the false primarch.
@@skeletonnoise6178 there was a redacted war sometime in the M30’s that mentions someone who says they are a primarch and fucked some shit up badly, but lost in the end. 40k theories has a video on it if you’re interested
The death spectres are also granted an ability that allows them to put their souls back in their body if they accidentally die. The ability requires a monumental force of willpower. It is supposedly granted by an artifact that is powered by the life force of their chapter master, who sits upon it.
I have Chaosgate Daemonhunters. In the final missions against Mortarion, Draigo looks like he's going to tear Mortarion limb from limb when he enters his throne room. Then when you actually play the mission, he's constantly laughing. I was like, holy shit this guy is more hard-core than the evil he's trying to destroy.
Difference between the bad guys and the good; the bad guys wear the skulls of their enemies, the good guys wear the skulls of their allies, friends and heroes.
And said bad guys also partake in demonic excursions across the galaxy to destroy and horrify mankind. It's Warhammer, you get autistic levels of testosterone or you leave.
Tyberos can move so fast even space marines cannot track his movement, full anime, he's there, he vanishes, he's behind them holding their spine in his hands
i could totally imagine the spacesharks captain everytime they go somewhere to assist any loyalist chapter and saying "humans are friend. not food" to their marines before they go out and bash some skulls
Minor mistake majorkill, The Flesh Tearers are not part of the Pentarchy of blood, is the Flesh Eaters who belong to the pentarchy, along side the carcharodons, red talons, death eagles and charnel guard.
@@zacharyweaver276 well, the whole conflict is called "War of False Primarch". Considering "False Primarch" part we can presume that Fabius Bile or someone with such skills was around. Such False Primarch could lead chapters astray. The war was going from 780.M33 to 860.M33, for 80 years. So theoretically this eleven chapters did suffer significant casualities by that point. Practically arrival of five fresh chapters with full supply and coordination could shatter their coalition especially if they were to kill this "False Primarch" and then hunt down his followers one by one.
corvax would probably do what he is doing now, and probably wake up and decide to use his demon powers to fuck with chaos in the warp. i mean its what he is good at fulgrim is a bitch and wouldn't be able to even consider logisically helping out anything, and would probably hate the imperium more than anything. lowkey he might actually break away from the imperium, maybe starting his own empire if he woke up. lion el johnson would absolutely be awesome. he would probably make a few more mistakes than rowboat girlyman, as he is well known for being violently ADHD, so forsee worse relations with eldar and tau, but his sheer stubbornness and absolute powerhouse nature would mean things like the orc menace would quickly dissapear. sorry ghazghkull, the lion isn't gonna to be too kind to you no matter your wauugh.
Love the Carcharodons, funny fact. Tyberos' official title is Shade Lord (an old Raven Guard title) and his lightning claws are Raven Guard relics but he stole them from the Ashen Claws; renegade Raven Guard chapter who hide inside the Ghoul Stars because during the Heresy they said "Screw Corax, Screw the Emperor, and Screw Horus!" and bolted
@Eemeli Pulkkinen From Red Tithe; POV from Night Lords. These Loyalists were different from the ones he’d outwitted in the past. None of his Claw leaders reported having ever encountered them before. Even Shadraith was seemingly without answers, practically abandoned by his pathetic daemonic patron. Their fighting style was not one Cull recognised. If anything, it seemed eerily like the Night Lords’ own doctrines. The brethren of the Red Knights - a young successor to the Blood Angels - had displayed a violent savagery when Cull had engaged them in orbit above Quelos, and he had heard of the brutality of the Space Wolves. These grey-clad Loyalists matched the bloodthirsty violence of both Chapters, and yet there were unsettling differences. Reports from the Claw leaders claimed they made no noise in combat. Nor was their bloodlust in any way unrestrained. While apparently eager for hand-to-hand combat, they seemed to retain complete tactical awareness. Twice Cull had watched in silent fury as Loyalist squads had refused to take the bait and follow up on retreating cultist squads that would have led them into carefully laid ambushes. And on the single occasion where the Night Lords had gained the upper hand - where Artar’s Fourth Claw had managed to split and outflank a Loyalist squad that had pushed too far ahead of the support in the tunnels either side - the corpse-worshippers had broken from combat and disengaged. Their close combat fury was matched only by their discipline and self-control. That combination had put the Night Lords on the back foot. In the space of four hours they’d been driven into the inner workings of Sink Shaft One. Perhaps Cull had been foolish to assume his young warband were the supreme hunters, but he was not prone to making the same mistake twice. He had sent orders to all Claws to disengage and withdraw towards the prison cell catacombs, taking with them all the savlar and escapee convicts they could find. They would be corralled with the loco shipments brought in from the outer mines of the captured sub-precincts, and then unleashed, en masse, back upon the Loyalists. Once the horde of prisoners collided head-on with the advancing Imperials, the dynamics of the subterranean war would change.
There’s a joke/story out there where a space marine commander on his ship is calling out arrivals to a battle. He’s naming off chapters as they arrive not knowing who is good or bad. Cuz even the good guys have bad guy sounding names.
Thanks for the shoutout of the Red Talons. The only other Iron Hands successor that has any real lore is the Sons of Medusa who left their parent chapter due to religious differences... and then misinterpreted the religion so hard even the people that taught it to them don't like them.
If they ever remake the Tau Fire Warrior game, I hope one of these chapters be featured as the enemies where you *really* do not want to engage them to emphasize how insane it is to take these human weapon head on. Turn the game into a horror game you know? Felt like it could be an improvement over the base game imo. A pipe dream yes, but a guy can still dream.
I always dreamed of a dark eldar horror game. Now that would be bad ass. Like your a lone civilian and you have to stay hidden for a set period of time so the eldar raiders move on.
I really want the space sharks to be night lord and raven guard hybrid. That just sounds like such a terrifying mix. You have the most sneaky chapter blended with the most sadistic. But their temperaments balance out the psychotic side of the night lords. There primarchs would be so proud to see that their sons are finally getting along. Ha ha.
When reading their novels I always think they're actually what's left of one the lost 2 legions, they generally operate outside the imperium by writ except to resupply. They don't match raven guard or night lord characteristics unless they've highly mutated. They use ancient codes. there were heresy legion elements that stayed loyal, what do you do with such a body of astartes before the heresy... Send them out to the edge of the galaxy and beyond where they may do some good and won't be a reminder of something best to be forgotten (purged). So while no one ever seems to mention this as a possibility, it's what I first thought of and nothing since has changed my mind.
@@s.31.l50 I'd be interested in knowing where in official lore that is confirmed. I'm a huge NL fan and I really like the Sharks also. I've only ever heard fan theories that 8th Legion loyalists went on to become the Carcharadons and another that suggests that Sevetar was recruited by Malcador to become a founding member of the Grey Knights.
Worst part about the shark homeboys is that they're quiet, close-combat-oriented machines. Considering his girth and combat prowess, Tyberos supposedly only whispers in his speech. Even if I knew that guy had my six at all times, I'd still be scared shitless of his presence. Bad enough that he basically has no cheeks and most of his teeth are canines, but he's also the largest mortal ever seen with strength and armor to make him the combat equivalent to a blendtec blender (don't breathe this).
Knights of blood would definitely top this list. Basically imagine flesh Tearers excerpt they are way deeper into the thirst and rage, and genuinely don’t care who they kill, usually just slaughtering entire Planets when they answer said planets distress call
In the book with Carcarodons fighting the Night Lords and their Demon allies, in their first encounter the Night Lords ambush a group of Space Sharks. The Space Sharks instead of charging further into the ambush pull back to counter attack. The Night Lords commander trying to figure out just who these guys are asks one of his guys on the ground who they fight like. The Night Lord Astartes replies, "They fight like us".
I really wish there was more about the Ghoul Stars, Halo Stars, Death Spectres, Throne of Glass and most importantly - about the "stuff" there. What I think it actually is is portal to pure void, nothingness, which is inhabited by some anti-creation fuckknowswhat even chaos is terrified of, because they still exist, they are part of creation. Throw one of the lost primarchs in the mix, maybe him getting corrupted by the void, trying to open the portal even more, bring them to this universe to basically nullify everything that is
I'm very happy you brought up the Red Talons and the Pentarchy. I'd love to hear you do a Pentarchy of Blood video and a video on the War of the False Primarch.
@@ellis7622 they’re blood angels successors. Not much lore on them other than being in the PoB, and being mentioned in Devastation of Baal from what I know.
The Iron Hands on their own are pretty damn horrifying when you factor in the Keys of Hel. Imagine a bunch of cyborg zombie Astartes, the few unhelmed of them glaring at you with dead eyes fixed in waxy corpse flesh faces, with literal ice often covering them because they need to be kept in cryo-storage between battles so they don’t just start fuckin rotting off their already largely mechanical skeletons. The Red Talons are basically just Iron Hands but way more assholish and that’s why the rest of the Iron Hands we’re happy to tell them to fuck clean off at the second founding lol
Not really, it seems quite fitting. It was only under the direction of Corvus Corax did the Raven have better morals and direction. The Terran borns were sent away because Corax was disgusted by them and he took the Deliverance born under his wing personally. Corax is also naturally a very dark character, although he fights for "good" he's not blind to his own personality and what he may have become, remember when he clashed with Kurze and he saw himself reflected back but twisted. Allowing the successors to branch off and go their own way just seems to have reverted them back somewhat to how the chapter was before Corax.
It's a shame, the Death Spectres were one of the chapters i found the coolest before i found out about them running around raping everybody everyone's can't trust anyone these days
Picked up the desk mat the other day. Fucking quality. Love your work mate, makes learning more about the 40k universe very entertaining. Cheers big dog!
Honestly, the part about the death specters kidnapping women to be r*ped for new recruits seems rather fcking grimderp to me. I mean, they are a ravenguard successor so it's not really in character and i'm pretty sure that there are easier ways to get new recruits...
@@crim1188eeeeeh still. Ravenguards whole shtick is that they are all about freedom fighting, they are a bit too benevolent for that type of stuff. Now if you told me they where just loyalist night lords id believe it in a heartbeat
I think killing 11 traitos chapters wasn't the goal tzere. It was probably more like: "Let's send these five chapters we would like to get rid of but can't on an impossible task. Either they die or they come back as failures and then we can kill them of."
Autek Mor is still one of the most BRUTAL loyalist marines to ever live. Loyalist Solar Auxilia and Imperial Army were never spared. Usually being used as pure cannon fodder by him and his Clan Company.
@@JJumper8888 The Warp doesn't care about reality or expectations It's like the iceberg that sank the Titanic or Hurricane Katrina which devasted Louisiana except on steroids Countless trillions willingly or unwillingly fall to Chaos every century
The only canon chapters which cares for normal humans are Salamanders, Crimson Fists, Space Wolves and, in a minor way, Ultramarines who cares only for normal humans from the Ultramar Empire
Shout out to the Red talons , I like that they dont seem to be obsessed with the flesh is weak mantra of their progenitor chapter and arent obsessed with cybernetics
Considering that one of the original Space Marine implants was the Omophagea which allows the Astartes to gain knowledge by eating the flesh of their enemies I don’t imagine some ritual cannibalism would really be frowned upon.
That puts the Death Specters in a whole new light..... I'm reading the Death Watch series right now and it's weird seeing ole boy Lyandro Karras being a part of all that spookiness
Ayyy love the content you legend, got me into warhammer 40k and now I’m obsessed (even playing my own campaign for wrath and glory with some mates). Keep up the good work man, peace
Itd be funny if tyberos was actually coraxs body or somthing that got seperated from his spirit when he embraced his inner warp god and now is doing wierd shit but that is sadly just a pipe dream
Silver Skulls, another Ultramarines Second Founding, actually have a major cultural hang up about canibalism to the point that their omniphagic implants are more or less gone from sheer lack of use. Imagine them being forced to share a battlefield with the Mortifactors!
In the Ultramarines Omnibus, Uriel's first encounter with the Mortifactors Chapter was that of, if not horror, at least questioning of methodology and where their loyalties really lie. As due to their being a successor chapter of the Ultramarines, they seemed to have strayed WELL away from the tenants of what the Ultramarines uphold. Even Uriel, who's whims of command was considered "unorthodox" to the Codex, was confused as to how the Mortifactors became this way... On top of the Chaplain drinking blood to see into the future... The Mortifactors proved to be... Obtuse. But the funny thing is that I loved how they were portrayed as this kind of "Yeah, everything that made Ultramarines completely boring and rigid? Throw that out, but keep everything else," Successor Chapter compared to other successor chapters.
Really only watch the lore videos, but it seems the most interesting things in this setting are the things there isn't any info on. Ghoul stars, giant space shark marines, old ones..
The flesh tearers are a tragic chapter, as all of their members have the black rage. They’re doing the best they can, but unfortunately only one blood angel has ever been able to overcome the black rage, and so the chapter is essentially just their chapter master and a bunch of battle crazed lunatics. Genuinely surprising they haven’t fallen to khorne.
Isn't it Death Company? All flesh tearers are prone to Red Thirst rather than black rage. They kill for their thirst of Blood rather than blind rage for Horus. Wich surprisingly they still loyal to the Emperor
@@chiuvittm no problem, even native English-speakers commonly misuse "worst" in common phrases like "took a turn for the worse" or "things went from bad to worse" because they've only heard them spoken in passing and have never read the phrase in print.
I thought it was pretty clear in warhammer lore that there aren't any good guys or bad guys. Everyone is an asshole pursuing their own interests by any means necessary
I only think of the Mortificatiors as the pussy lords who abandoned the Lamenters during that one Black Crusade. Oh and that Flesh Tearers story ends with a Death Company boarding torpedoes shot into a medical transport with an Inquisitor because NO SNITCHING! Please make a mini for the late Commissar Yarrick.
I think its kind of sad that the night lords are used as an example to show how scary certain factions or groups are supposed to be, the night lords are supposed to be the scary ones and yet they are often beaten at their own game to make someone else look cool😢
@@jasonravenscroft5321 wich would be fine if it was not always the night lords when someon is supposed to be scary, use the black legion, world eaters or dark eldar sometimes, you would get the same effect.
(I think he made a joke in the video considering how many tournament wins Iron Hands have gotten and how overplayed they were in the competitive scene throughout much of 9th Edition)
@@lazerhosen or maybe they aren’t used like that in Australia. I know I used the heck out of them and have been using them since they got their first supplement back in 6th edition.
Honestly, I was hoping that the Legion of the Dammed would have made the list, they're basically loyalist chaos marines living in the warp and showing up to turn the tide
Flesh Tearers....and some people have the nerve to call out the Space Wolves for not giving them back their dead,if i saw these madmen killing imperials like the Word Eaters do i wouldnt want to help this chapter survive either.
Holy shit, I had no idea that power scythes were a thing but I’m so happy to know they are. Anyone that says scythes aren’t the coolest bladed weapon is lying to themselves.
It's been theorised (maybe proven but Idk the lore is chaotic) that a lot of ultramarines successor chapters actually originate from traitor legions with a hint of smurfmarine in em. It also explains why the ultramarines have so many successor chapters compared to other loyalists
It is weird at first glance, but generally speaking, every Chapter eventually takes on the culture of their homeworld. The only exception are Chapters that recruit from a large group of worlds, or just recruit randomly. Frankly, considering that the Imperial Fists are mostly Hive Gangers, we're lucky they aren't constantly throwing gang signs and selling meth.
Oh I'm not surprised some chapters celebrate death etc because the whole Imperium seems to celebrate death of both their heroes and enemies and skulls&bones everywhere in its iconography and symbolism. Back when I knew nothing about 40k except for a dozen images, I thought the Imperium was some sort of a necromancer death cult.
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Bobby?
You did scare me
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I’ve never been this early, notice me senpai.
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Ofc the Aussie can down a can of beer in one
Death Spectres: "Can I borrow your homework?"
Daemonculaba: "Sure, just change it up a bit so it dosent look like you just copied my edge"
Honestly all space marines are terrifying like imagine being some guardsman having just been saved in the nick of time from chaos marines by a group of loyalist marines and then watching as they take off their helmets and start eating the chaos marine's brains.
Offer some ketchup.
Holy shit, just imagine that without words. Only dismissive body language as they talked to each other in their helmets. Then, as they took off their helmets. The Guardsmen, exhausted from the terrifying battle. Saw their saviours take off their helmets and made the sign of the Aquilla. Was amazed by the perfection of their faces, so angelic, just like the pictures and statues. Only to then stop part way through making the sign as their saviours started bashing the heads of their misshapen former brethren open and feasting on the goo inside.
Not even just the part about them eating their brains. They’re terrifying in general because of how unbelievably rare they are. Many believe they’re just myths, and even more don’t realize Chaos Marines actually exist. Plus, most of the people that find out end up being massacred either by their saviors or the Inquisition. Seeing any Space Marine has been described as a breathtaking thing that just results in people kneeling in awe or tearing up at the realization the Emperor’s angels actually exist.
What's the space marine faction that literally spit's acid?
@@ianyoder2537 all of them, it's a gland that weaponizes their sinuses.
Scary loyalists really would make for great villains for a survival horror game/story. Imagine being an innocent civilian just trying to survive and escape from chapters like the Mortifactors, Carcarodons, or Red Talons.
Great idea. Let's make this game playable. Instead of an astardes, let's make it an initiate.
You'll be chased my an insane, hulked out manchild originally perceived to be an ally.
You can't fight it. Not directly, in any effective way. Its typically faster than you but takes a moment to react if occupied. due to its crazed state, it can be diverted or distracted.
Open areas would be particularly dangerous, but its skills would change from time to time.
If its crazed, its loud but more ferocious. If its lucid, its quieter.
You don't even need to be a civilian lol
The final boss are the Marines Malevolent
Edit: Good Ending when the Mortifactors are the chasers
_After masterfully avoiding the Mortifactors Chapter. You run into another Space Marine, traumatized and fatigued, you just sat there and accepted death but the space marine instead lifted you up on his shoulders and said “Come, this is no place to die.” As he carried you onto a thunderhawk waiting to take off. You look back at your savior and saw a bleeding heart insignia on the Marine’s pauldrons_
@@Franz0818 lamenters?
@@Franz0818 bleeding heart? Bro, you are done, if it was me, i would like to see a dragon head more
We need an episode for the "Worst Loyalist Chapter" finding the Space Marine chapter that even the most beleaguered and war torn Imperial world would be disappointed to see riding to their rescue
Marines Malevolent and Minotaurs are the thing, so...
Marines Malevolent lol
Why people say the Lamenters ate weak..they have the worst luck but they still win and hold on .thats makes them of the strongest chapters in my head
It's hands down the Marine Malevolent. Those are a hair's breadth from becoming renegades.
They pretty much have the inquisition breathing down their neck all the time.
Marines Malevolent
It’s still a crime that there has been no lore expansion on the ghoul stars. I hope wherever gw goes with new villains, races, and stories that the ghoul stars are the plot point from where they come from!
Yes. Something new. A true horror.
Absolutely
Now that they added a living story to the game, It will eventually have to come to a conclusion. And it could be from the ghoul stars
In some ways I would rather a lot wasn't specified with regards to the ghoul stars, since much of the terror of them comes from how little is known. Having a faction represent them could actually make them less scary by giving whatever is out there form. It might be cooler to have some books on the matter, since it isn't required to give a visual depiction and can cover one of a multitude of horrors that could exist.
@@rhyshoward5094 Yup. They ruined the necrons by creating the back story of them.
Another thing about that battle between the Carcharadons and the night lords, the sharks actually caused the night lords to feel FEAR. How terrifying do you have to be to cause members of a legion of war criminals (who have been modified not to feel fear) to be afraid.
Damn...
I wonder if it had anything to do with playing the 'Jaws' theme through the vox.
What kind of fucking heresy is this shit!? Astartes don't feel fear they just get even more pissed off!
@@SH-qs7ee 🤣 I actually bursted out laughting
Imagine Night Lords sneaking there then realizing their vox channels got compromised the exact moment someone says "Hello...".
Lion El’Jonson: “Don’t make me tap the sign.”
[Loyalty is it’s own reward]
Is this a simpsons reference?
@@jrr7031yes.
Said the kinslaying hypocrite (El'Jonson, not you, OP).
Imagine how confused Gorillaman seeing the Mortifactors for the first time, wondering are they really his.
"It's not a phase, dad!"
Don’t worry. It is a phase.
Bobby G: Cawl I want a DNA test
The flesh tearers were never part of the pentarchy of blood. Those are the flesh eaters. I made that mistake as well originally when reading about the war of the false primarch.
Both have flesh in the name, so it does make people make mistakes.
War of the lost what now?
I thought something seemed weird about that. I was like “Gabriel Seth was never mentioned with the pentarchy” but I also had no way to prove it 😅
What the difference by the looks of it they both probably eat enemy and ally
@@skeletonnoise6178 there was a redacted war sometime in the M30’s that mentions someone who says they are a primarch and fucked some shit up badly, but lost in the end. 40k theories has a video on it if you’re interested
The death spectres are also granted an ability that allows them to put their souls back in their body if they accidentally die. The ability requires a monumental force of willpower.
It is supposedly granted by an artifact that is powered by the life force of their chapter master, who sits upon it.
...a special butt plug?
Accidentally?
One of my favorite things about the setting is that the "bad" guys just have slightly more skulls and spikes all over them than the "good" guys.
I have Chaosgate Daemonhunters. In the final missions against Mortarion, Draigo looks like he's going to tear Mortarion limb from limb when he enters his throne room. Then when you actually play the mission, he's constantly laughing.
I was like, holy shit this guy is more hard-core than the evil he's trying to destroy.
Difference between the bad guys and the good; the bad guys wear the skulls of their enemies, the good guys wear the skulls of their allies, friends and heroes.
Skulls and spikes are pretty awesome ornaments to place on battlearmor,
There's no "guys" within space marines. They're men.
And said bad guys also partake in demonic excursions across the galaxy to destroy and horrify mankind. It's Warhammer, you get autistic levels of testosterone or you leave.
Tyberos can move so fast even space marines cannot track his movement, full anime, he's there, he vanishes, he's behind them holding their spine in his hands
i could totally imagine the spacesharks captain everytime they go somewhere to assist any loyalist chapter and saying "humans are friend. not food" to their marines before they go out and bash some skulls
That is perfect 😆
Guardsmen: Hooray his angels have arrived!
Space marines:Horus!!
Guardsmen: -_-‘
Minor mistake majorkill, The Flesh Tearers are not part of the Pentarchy of blood, is the Flesh Eaters who belong to the pentarchy, along side the carcharodons, red talons, death eagles and charnel guard.
God damn it Timmy!
Now I want a video on this Pentarchy of Blood and how they wiped out double their number of space marine chapters
Same. I was very confused by whatever this Pentarchy thing he was talking about
@@jasonstephen7564 40k is full of obscure lore so I'm not surprised really
and how they wiped out double their number of space marine chapters
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By attacking them 5 on 1, i suppose.
@@ГригорийГ-ч4н possibly though I'm assuming the eleven chapters were working together at least at the start
@@zacharyweaver276 well, the whole conflict is called "War of False Primarch". Considering "False Primarch" part we can presume that Fabius Bile or someone with such skills was around. Such False Primarch could lead chapters astray. The war was going from 780.M33 to 860.M33, for 80 years. So theoretically this eleven chapters did suffer significant casualities by that point. Practically arrival of five fresh chapters with full supply and coordination could shatter their coalition especially if they were to kill this "False Primarch" and then hunt down his followers one by one.
Getting a video about how each of the pre heresy primarchs would react to being in Guillimans current situation would be pretty cool ngl
corvax would probably do what he is doing now, and probably wake up and decide to use his demon powers to fuck with chaos in the warp. i mean its what he is good at
fulgrim is a bitch and wouldn't be able to even consider logisically helping out anything, and would probably hate the imperium more than anything. lowkey he might actually break away from the imperium, maybe starting his own empire if he woke up.
lion el johnson would absolutely be awesome. he would probably make a few more mistakes than rowboat girlyman, as he is well known for being violently ADHD, so forsee worse relations with eldar and tau, but his sheer stubbornness and absolute powerhouse nature would mean things like the orc menace would quickly dissapear. sorry ghazghkull, the lion isn't gonna to be too kind to you no matter your wauugh.
Love the Carcharodons, funny fact. Tyberos' official title is Shade Lord (an old Raven Guard title) and his lightning claws are Raven Guard relics but he stole them from the Ashen Claws; renegade Raven Guard chapter who hide inside the Ghoul Stars because during the Heresy they said "Screw Corax, Screw the Emperor, and Screw Horus!" and bolted
Glad to see the Mortifactors getting some love. Been painting these guys since reading about them in the Uriel books
I'm guessing Shark Boys are number 1. They freaked out the Night Lords 😂🦈
EDIT; See below why.
I've seen tyberos if he's not the most terrifying space marine the loyalist have then I'm scared who is
One does not simply freak out The freakie boys, the shark marines must be some seriously spooky ones.
@Eemeli Pulkkinen From Red Tithe; POV from Night Lords.
These Loyalists were different from the ones he’d outwitted in the past. None of his Claw leaders reported having ever encountered them before. Even Shadraith was seemingly without answers, practically abandoned by his pathetic daemonic patron. Their fighting style was not one Cull recognised. If anything, it seemed eerily like the Night Lords’ own doctrines. The brethren of the Red Knights - a young successor to the Blood Angels - had displayed a violent savagery when Cull had engaged them in orbit above Quelos, and he had heard of the brutality of the Space Wolves. These grey-clad Loyalists matched the bloodthirsty violence of both Chapters, and yet there were unsettling differences. Reports from the Claw leaders claimed they made no noise in combat. Nor was their bloodlust in any way unrestrained. While apparently eager for hand-to-hand combat, they seemed to retain complete tactical awareness. Twice Cull had watched in silent fury as Loyalist squads had refused to take the bait and follow up on retreating cultist squads that would have led them into carefully laid ambushes. And on the single occasion where the Night Lords had gained the upper hand - where Artar’s Fourth Claw had managed to split and outflank a Loyalist squad that had pushed too far ahead of the support in the tunnels either side - the corpse-worshippers had broken from combat and disengaged. Their close combat fury was matched only by their discipline and self-control.
That combination had put the Night Lords on the back foot. In the space of four hours they’d been driven into the inner workings of Sink Shaft One. Perhaps Cull had been foolish to assume his young warband were the supreme hunters, but he was not prone to making the same mistake twice. He had sent orders to all Claws to disengage and withdraw towards the prison cell catacombs, taking with them all the savlar and escapee convicts they could find. They would be corralled with the loco shipments brought in from the outer mines of the captured sub-precincts, and then unleashed, en masse, back upon the Loyalists. Once the horde of prisoners collided head-on with the advancing Imperials, the dynamics of the subterranean war would change.
@@saltyshackles5227 damn bro. Ok.
Shark marines are good.
Nobody:
Nobody at all:
Tyberos: "THESE ARE MY WANKIN' GLOVES!"
There’s a joke/story out there where a space marine commander on his ship is calling out arrivals to a battle. He’s naming off chapters as they arrive not knowing who is good or bad. Cuz even the good guys have bad guy sounding names.
Thanks for the shoutout of the Red Talons. The only other Iron Hands successor that has any real lore is the Sons of Medusa who left their parent chapter due to religious differences... and then misinterpreted the religion so hard even the people that taught it to them don't like them.
When the emperor decides he wants chaotic good chapters to take the fall 😂
This was truly a horrifying list. Knew about the universe and lore but clearly there is more to it. Wow.
If they ever remake the Tau Fire Warrior game, I hope one of these chapters be featured as the enemies where you *really* do not want to engage them to emphasize how insane it is to take these human weapon head on. Turn the game into a horror game you know? Felt like it could be an improvement over the base game imo. A pipe dream yes, but a guy can still dream.
I always dreamed of a dark eldar horror game. Now that would be bad ass. Like your a lone civilian and you have to stay hidden for a set period of time so the eldar raiders move on.
tau weapons shit on space marine armor
Given the space sharks' heavy use of cryo-sleep, I have a romantic dream that Tyberos has actually been Sevatar this whole time.
Naaa it's got to be Konrad I think
@@Just_A_Megalodoni would say this is gotta be some alpha legion shenanigans... But isn't Konrad dead? Like dead dead?.
"Its because the Mortificators are so damn reliable" instantly thinks about my poor Lamenter bois - "Those we cherish we die in glory"
I really want the space sharks to be night lord and raven guard hybrid. That just sounds like such a terrifying mix. You have the most sneaky chapter blended with the most sadistic. But their temperaments balance out the psychotic side of the night lords. There primarchs would be so proud to see that their sons are finally getting along. Ha ha.
CAs are not really sadistic or brutal. They prefer melee but are really tactical and composed in combat.
I'm new to the space sharks . there huge chapter master with the awesome weapons caught my ear.i need to learn more before I can say .
When reading their novels I always think they're actually what's left of one the lost 2 legions, they generally operate outside the imperium by writ except to resupply. They don't match raven guard or night lord characteristics unless they've highly mutated. They use ancient codes. there were heresy legion elements that stayed loyal, what do you do with such a body of astartes before the heresy... Send them out to the edge of the galaxy and beyond where they may do some good and won't be a reminder of something best to be forgotten (purged).
So while no one ever seems to mention this as a possibility, it's what I first thought of and nothing since has changed my mind.
Pretty sure that’s confirmed in official lore
@@s.31.l50 I'd be interested in knowing where in official lore that is confirmed. I'm a huge NL fan and I really like the Sharks also. I've only ever heard fan theories that 8th Legion loyalists went on to become the Carcharadons and another that suggests that Sevetar was recruited by Malcador to become a founding member of the Grey Knights.
Person: Grey Knights are so inhumane, they execute you for seeing them!
Red Talons: Allow us to introduce ourselves.
Black Dragons: Fight us or jump off the cliff
Another fact about the Chacharadons is that when they fight, it's in complete silence.
Worst part about the shark homeboys is that they're quiet, close-combat-oriented machines. Considering his girth and combat prowess, Tyberos supposedly only whispers in his speech. Even if I knew that guy had my six at all times, I'd still be scared shitless of his presence. Bad enough that he basically has no cheeks and most of his teeth are canines, but he's also the largest mortal ever seen with strength and armor to make him the combat equivalent to a blendtec blender (don't breathe this).
I remember that The Red thive of the sharks was performed on prisons.
They grab as many undesirables as the gargo bay of their battlebarges can hold.
they do it everywhere
Knights of blood would definitely top this list. Basically imagine flesh Tearers excerpt they are way deeper into the thirst and rage, and genuinely don’t care who they kill, usually just slaughtering entire Planets when they answer said planets distress call
weren't the Knights of blood declared traitors, but just shrugged and carried on helping the imperium.
Gabriel actually chewed out Santor Jul the Knights of Blood chapter master for killing a eleven year old just to drink his blood.
Knowing the reaction and horror of the mantis warriors when the shark boys showed up, imagine the civilians. Must have died from the full on panic
In the book with Carcarodons fighting the Night Lords and their Demon allies, in their first encounter the Night Lords ambush a group of Space Sharks. The Space Sharks instead of charging further into the ambush pull back to counter attack. The Night Lords commander trying to figure out just who these guys are asks one of his guys on the ground who they fight like. The Night Lord Astartes replies, "They fight like us".
"we are scary and merciless, but for the emperor and not the traitorous crying baby"
The Cacaradons can make me think twice about choosing them over night lords bullschitt.
"They are so reliable and loyal." I think the Lamenters have some words about that.
I really wish there was more about the Ghoul Stars, Halo Stars, Death Spectres, Throne of Glass and most importantly - about the "stuff" there. What I think it actually is is portal to pure void, nothingness, which is inhabited by some anti-creation fuckknowswhat even chaos is terrified of, because they still exist, they are part of creation. Throw one of the lost primarchs in the mix, maybe him getting corrupted by the void, trying to open the portal even more, bring them to this universe to basically nullify everything that is
I'm very happy you brought up the Red Talons and the Pentarchy. I'd love to hear you do a Pentarchy of Blood video and a video on the War of the False Primarch.
Quick note: the Flesh Tearers were NOT one of the pentarchy of blood. The Flesh Eaters were, easy mistake to make.
There’s really a chapter called the flesh eaters? Is it known who their gene seemed comes from?
@@ellis7622 they’re blood angels successors. Not much lore on them other than being in the PoB, and being mentioned in Devastation of Baal from what I know.
@@ballisticfish1212 ah ok thanks
Of particular note to me are the Flesh Eaters, who I genuinely thought where a Khornate warband when I first heard of them.
The Iron Hands on their own are pretty damn horrifying when you factor in the Keys of Hel. Imagine a bunch of cyborg zombie Astartes, the few unhelmed of them glaring at you with dead eyes fixed in waxy corpse flesh faces, with literal ice often covering them because they need to be kept in cryo-storage between battles so they don’t just start fuckin rotting off their already largely mechanical skeletons.
The Red Talons are basically just Iron Hands but way more assholish and that’s why the rest of the Iron Hands we’re happy to tell them to fuck clean off at the second founding lol
It's interesting that the Raven Guard have two successors on this list.
Not really, it seems quite fitting. It was only under the direction of Corvus Corax did the Raven have better morals and direction. The Terran borns were sent away because Corax was disgusted by them and he took the Deliverance born under his wing personally. Corax is also naturally a very dark character, although he fights for "good" he's not blind to his own personality and what he may have become, remember when he clashed with Kurze and he saw himself reflected back but twisted. Allowing the successors to branch off and go their own way just seems to have reverted them back somewhat to how the chapter was before Corax.
@@FRAAANKYSUUUPER Yeah, lets remember Kurze was a vigilante, Corax was the terrorist.
It's a shame, the Death Spectres were one of the chapters i found the coolest before i found out about them running around raping everybody everyone's can't trust anyone these days
The mortificators are probably the worst for me due to them betraying the lamenters, unless that's non-cannon
Picked up the desk mat the other day. Fucking quality.
Love your work mate, makes learning more about the 40k universe very entertaining. Cheers big dog!
Honestly, the part about the death specters kidnapping women to be r*ped for new recruits seems rather fcking grimderp to me.
I mean, they are a ravenguard successor so it's not really in character and i'm pretty sure that there are easier ways to get new recruits...
It is grimderp. Edgy for no other reason than to be edgy
@@crim1188eeeeeh still. Ravenguards whole shtick is that they are all about freedom fighting, they are a bit too benevolent for that type of stuff. Now if you told me they where just loyalist night lords id believe it in a heartbeat
I think killing 11 traitos chapters wasn't the goal tzere. It was probably more like: "Let's send these five chapters we would like to get rid of but can't on an impossible task. Either they die or they come back as failures and then we can kill them of."
Video idea: What would happen if other primarch returned instead of Smurf Daddy?
I want a book where Corvus Corax comes back to realspace and slaughters all the Death Spectres for going against everything the Raven Guard stands for
Autek Mor is still one of the most BRUTAL loyalist marines to ever live. Loyalist Solar Auxilia and Imperial Army were never spared. Usually being used as pure cannon fodder by him and his Clan Company.
Don't forget, he dropped a moon on the World Eaters primary recruitment world
It's midnight, I should go to bed.... but theres a new Majorkill video.
Imagine Gabriel Seth and Tyberos cleansing a planet held by one of the traitor legions. Carnage everywhere
Kharn and Lucius can take them on!
@@christiandauz3742 mostly win due to even thicker plotarmor than named loyalist space marines
@@JJumper8888
Kharn and Lucius have the Warp with them
If Tamir Rice had Chaos blessings he would have slaughter all Amerikan cops!
@@christiandauz3742 so yeah due to GW's writing chaos would always win cuz of some warp nonesense
@@JJumper8888
The Warp doesn't care about reality or expectations
It's like the iceberg that sank the Titanic or Hurricane Katrina which devasted Louisiana except on steroids
Countless trillions willingly or unwillingly fall to Chaos every century
The only canon chapters which cares for normal humans are Salamanders, Crimson Fists, Space Wolves and, in a minor way, Ultramarines who cares only for normal humans from the Ultramar Empire
Shout out to the Red talons , I like that they dont seem to be obsessed with the flesh is weak mantra of their progenitor chapter and arent obsessed with cybernetics
Space Wolfs: We are Executioners owo
Space Sharks: *Bites the wolfhead off the wolfmarine
The Salamanders and White Scars would have a big problem with these guys.
Considering that one of the original Space Marine implants was the Omophagea which allows the Astartes to gain knowledge by eating the flesh of their enemies I don’t imagine some ritual cannibalism would really be frowned upon.
Me: i gotta get up at 6 tomorrow morning for work
Majorkill: uploads another video
Me: sleep can wait, i must acquire more knowledge on the Lore
Grond!
My fave combo of BA loyalists. Blood Drinkers, Flesh Tearers and my fave, the Flesh EATERS.
Bro the rapist space marines kinda of shocked me for real. Never expected something like this from His Angels.
That puts the Death Specters in a whole new light..... I'm reading the Death Watch series right now and it's weird seeing ole boy Lyandro Karras being a part of all that spookiness
Ayyy love the content you legend, got me into warhammer 40k and now I’m obsessed (even playing my own campaign for wrath and glory with some mates). Keep up the good work man, peace
Good luck on the road the 500k Major. We're behind ya!
Itd be funny if tyberos was actually coraxs body or somthing that got seperated from his spirit when he embraced his inner warp god and now is doing wierd shit but that is sadly just a pipe dream
Silver Skulls, another Ultramarines Second Founding, actually have a major cultural hang up about canibalism to the point that their omniphagic implants are more or less gone from sheer lack of use. Imagine them being forced to share a battlefield with the Mortifactors!
Yes the absolutely NOT secretly iron warriors successors sons of g man
I feel like all the first founding loyalists have at least one cannibal/ corpse-eater successor chapter
In the Ultramarines Omnibus, Uriel's first encounter with the Mortifactors Chapter was that of, if not horror, at least questioning of methodology and where their loyalties really lie.
As due to their being a successor chapter of the Ultramarines, they seemed to have strayed WELL away from the tenants of what the Ultramarines uphold. Even Uriel, who's whims of command was considered "unorthodox" to the Codex, was confused as to how the Mortifactors became this way...
On top of the Chaplain drinking blood to see into the future... The Mortifactors proved to be... Obtuse. But the funny thing is that I loved how they were portrayed as this kind of "Yeah, everything that made Ultramarines completely boring and rigid? Throw that out, but keep everything else," Successor Chapter compared to other successor chapters.
Can you do more 5 obscure lesser known space marine chapters videos again?
Really only watch the lore videos, but it seems the most interesting things in this setting are the things there isn't any info on. Ghoul stars, giant space shark marines, old ones..
The flesh tearers are a tragic chapter, as all of their members have the black rage. They’re doing the best they can, but unfortunately only one blood angel has ever been able to overcome the black rage, and so the chapter is essentially just their chapter master and a bunch of battle crazed lunatics. Genuinely surprising they haven’t fallen to khorne.
Isn't it Death Company? All flesh tearers are prone to Red Thirst rather than black rage. They kill for their thirst of Blood rather than blind rage for Horus. Wich surprisingly they still loyal to the Emperor
Video Idea: Best David vs Goliath moments in the setting.
It's funny how the flesh teares have that reputation and yet the knights of blood are described to be much worst, but are not famous at all
The phrase it "much worse" or "the worst," but not both. "Worst" is the bottom, "worse" is varying degrees below baseline but above "worst."
@@lazerhosen I see, english is not my first language, so thank you for the help!
@@chiuvittm no problem, even native English-speakers commonly misuse "worst" in common phrases like "took a turn for the worse" or "things went from bad to worse" because they've only heard them spoken in passing and have never read the phrase in print.
Ight bro, I'm sold. Time to get some merch
Wow, can't belive I'm saying this but I hope Erebus or the Dark Eldar come across the Spectres and go to work on them.
Majorkill needs to come out with his own craft beer. I would buy that.
Nice content as always keep it up! Maybe something related to space battle would be nice piece of lore to explore
07:34 "since once when they began farting they often lost control and cannot identify friend from foe"
~ Marjorkill - 2023 ~
Hey Majorkill! I have a Video idea! Primarch flagships history, events and what happened to it.
I thought it was pretty clear in warhammer lore that there aren't any good guys or bad guys. Everyone is an asshole pursuing their own interests by any means necessary
I only think of the Mortificatiors as the pussy lords who abandoned the Lamenters during that one Black Crusade. Oh and that Flesh Tearers story ends with a Death Company boarding torpedoes shot into a medical transport with an Inquisitor because NO SNITCHING!
Please make a mini for the late Commissar Yarrick.
Who do you think you're requesting that mini from? Is there supposed to be an actual outcome to your request?
The average 40k conflict is Lawful Evil vs Chaotic Evil vs Neutral Evil vs. True Neutral (but so hungry they'll eat the entire universe)
I think its kind of sad that the night lords are used as an example to show how scary certain factions or groups are supposed to be, the night lords are supposed to be the scary ones and yet they are often beaten at their own game to make someone else look cool😢
GW tends to throw a faction under the bus to make something else look super uber cool and powerful
@@jasonravenscroft5321 wich would be fine if it was not always the night lords when someon is supposed to be scary, use the black legion, world eaters or dark eldar sometimes, you would get the same effect.
Nothing more adorable then a chapter of wannabe sharks who just want to hug your insides
Now I must say I’ve been seeing more and more people play iron hands as of late and it makes me happy
(I think he made a joke in the video considering how many tournament wins Iron Hands have gotten and how overplayed they were in the competitive scene throughout much of 9th Edition)
@@lazerhosen or maybe they aren’t used like that in Australia. I know I used the heck out of them and have been using them since they got their first supplement back in 6th edition.
Honestly, I was hoping that the Legion of the Dammed would have made the list, they're basically loyalist chaos marines living in the warp and showing up to turn the tide
Makes you wonder if there's an Ultramarine thanksgiving get together ans how every chapter reacrs to the Mortys.
Their probly the creepy uncle that experiments on his dead pets
Flesh Tearers....and some people have the nerve to call out the Space Wolves for not giving them back their dead,if i saw these madmen killing imperials like the Word Eaters do i wouldnt want to help this chapter survive either.
Holy shit, I had no idea that power scythes were a thing but I’m so happy to know they are. Anyone that says scythes aren’t the coolest bladed weapon is lying to themselves.
Thank you for introducing me to the Red Talons. Immediate new fave
Majorkill can you do a video on the planets of the Sol System in 40k?
A guy fell down having a heart attack. One man said nearby exclaimed he was a professional, then he started juggling.
Mortificators seem very odd as ultramarine succesors, a bunch of the other main legions would be more logical origins for them
It's been theorised (maybe proven but Idk the lore is chaotic) that a lot of ultramarines successor chapters actually originate from traitor legions with a hint of smurfmarine in em. It also explains why the ultramarines have so many successor chapters compared to other loyalists
It is weird at first glance, but generally speaking, every Chapter eventually takes on the culture of their homeworld. The only exception are Chapters that recruit from a large group of worlds, or just recruit randomly.
Frankly, considering that the Imperial Fists are mostly Hive Gangers, we're lucky they aren't constantly throwing gang signs and selling meth.
Oh I'm not surprised some chapters celebrate death etc because the whole Imperium seems to celebrate death of both their heroes and enemies and skulls&bones everywhere in its iconography and symbolism. Back when I knew nothing about 40k except for a dozen images, I thought the Imperium was some sort of a necromancer death cult.
*thumbnail*
Imagine if these three Space Marines do the Pillar Men Awaken Pose.
My boys, the space sharks! Love em. Melee only practically and silent but terrifying
Yo its been 5days has majorkill been sent to time out again
Oh fuck
@@kuafer3687 right, I need my majorkill fix...
I'm feinding over here lol
"The things i do for money."
The honesty of that statement, might just convince me to buy some merch.