J is a legit good dude. I ran Into him after a beatles tribute concert at the fox like 12 years ago. My gf at the time asked if we could hang out and the guy took us to 2 bars and the strip club in his limo for 2 hrs. It was super cool. He bought us a couple drinks and hung out and talked to us like we were his homies. They dropped us back off at our car and that was that. Super fucking cool guy.
I’m so glad so many people nowadays are seeing what kind of person Violent J actually is. He’s really a VERY down to Earth, sweet person. He’ll forever be a legend. Even to people who aren’t Juggalos. Anyone who respects a real human being can’t help but respect Violent J.
Man, this man is a literal icon. Icp, regardless if you love em, hate em or don't care, they were literally self made, humble ass dudes, that genuinely love the family they have created. I hope he continues to be healthy and happy.
@@JuggaloNY Look it up dumb dumb. They settled out of court for the stolen instrumentals and they stole the wicked clown horror shit from Esham, another Detroit horrorcore rapper. They stole some guy's poetry word for word.
I was a heroin addict for 8 years. I'm coming up on three years clean in October. I am the same way and don't go to meetings anymore because of the exact reasons he listed. I don't have urges I don't think about it I've come to terms with everything I've done in my life and I feel if I go to meetings I'm going to be thinking about it and it's going to do more harm than good. I 100% relate to him on that
same. 2 of my best homies acually looked like them when painted up. I was more a DJ screw fan being in Houston but had good times with the native juggalos and juggaletts lol
Violent J is such a great, humble guy. I love hearing his stories and I’m glad he’s doing well now. Really great interview, I love how close J and Steve-O are.
I've never been a fan of their music but have so much respect for J and Shaggy. The hustle they have is next level. Thanks Steve for bringing J back on the show. His stories are epic and the conversation always goes smoothly.
Palabra straight up y'all should Gather next year. Y'all would find it's like Shangri-La on earth. Come back to THIS comment a couple of months before and let's make it happen. I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE THAT GIVE ME A CHANCE TO TELL EM, THAT IT SHOULD BE ON EVERYBODY'S BUCKET LIST. WHOOP WHOOP MMFCL NINJA SALUDOS FROM EDINBURG,TEXAS THE VALLEY 956
@@Tsureiki let's go I'd be happy to be there for your first time, me personally I've gone since 2011 except for 2017 18th annual fuklahoma. It was wack. Let make it happen homie.
Been a Juggalo since I was 10 (1993) and J has helped me through some of my worst moments with the music he and Shaggy put out... Their song "Forever" kept me alive after my son died, and I proudly have that hatchetman Tat (since 2003) Thanks for having J on again, yo!!! Whoop Whoop!!! Respect to the Non-Juggalos showing the Don Mega some love!
@@DuvalRypr what was the point of this? what's actually cringe is some idiot child trying to be edgy and cool putting someone down because you don't like the same things. next time just keep scrolling cause nobody wants to hear it.
This just solidifies me as an icp fan. Shaggy and J are the definition of self made. They literally did EVERYTHING on there own. That's just insane. The chemistry between J and steve is AWESOME! nothing but respect. I remember ICP in wcw. I legit remember Kanyon, he was a good wrestler. 31:44 bro you can HEAR the pain in J's voice when he said that. Much love to both Steve and J. Thank you both.
It especially comes into perspective when you realize that, Jive Records, the first label who EVER signed them back in the post-Ringmaster/Riddlebox days, absolutely refused to circuit their records outside of Detroit, let alone Michigan. They were told that they think their type of music is something only people from Detroit would understand/enjoy. When ICP realized that, they threw a dart at a map of the US and it landed in Texas. Joe, Rob, Joey, Legz Diamond, Billy Bill, Rude Boy, and Alex got in a van and drove to Texas with four boxes full of Riddlebox CD's and cassettes. They then split up into two teams, one went to Dallas and the other went to Houston. After less than a month not only did they completely sell all four boxes but they had record stores in both Dallas and Houston calling Jive to order more. Jive congratulated them, said what they did was amazing, and then pulled the exact same shit by refusing to distribute anywhere outside Michigan or Texas because they still thought it was a "niche" thing. So, Alex started shopping around for another label and found Hollywood. Under HEAVY scrutiny ICP recorded Great Milenko for Hollywood, only for it to be immediately pulled off the shelves the very same day it got released. After a legal battle, Island Def Jam decided to sign them, but ICP had re-record the entirety of Great Milenko again for numerous reasons (one being that Hollywood made them censor themselves heavily, while Island Def Jam wanted them to be as edgy as possible because they wanted to take advantage of what they thought was going to be a huge media blowup when they revealed ICP's record got pulled). So yeah they were signed to labels, but every single label they were on (including Island Def Jam) worked against them to varying degrees rather than help promote them which is - y'know - the entire point of having a label, and at worst hindered them completely forcing them to still do it all on their own with or without a label.
not a fan of the music but I absolute love him and shaggy. such humble and pure dudes. I watch every interview. it's really inspiring to see how far they came. awesome interview Steve o.
That was a killer interview,I've been sober for close to 20 years and can relate to both. I'm like Violent J,i never did AA,just always told myself,drink again and you may as well pull the trigger because it's poison in a bottle in so many ways. Congrats to both of you and whoever reads this. Whoop Whoop.
@@rickymassey I was on opiates 15 years, got clean and couldnt stop thinking about alcohol! I realized I'm an alcoholic, like my dad, but the opioid was blocking the temptation to drink! I told my mum I'm an alcoholic and she laughed, because I never drink, but shes been babysitting my dads antics for 40 years.. she has no idea how I could become him in an instant.. the pills ,opioids, help with alot, but I'm sick of needing them! I loved being sober but the alcohol was deffinitly an obstacle..It's like you cam never win..
Him saying, “ you just gotta eat it.” is so real. Eating pain, forcing it down. Not to be dramatic, but accepting pain and swallowing it has helped me a lot.
I feel ya, Violent J. I was diagnosed with heart failure in April of 2022. I had had this swelling in my right foot for awhile, had been trying to find out what was causing it but the doctor didn't know because the tests they did didn't show anything abnormal. Then my right calf started swelling up and I became severely winded, like you described. One night all of a sudden, I could not breathe. I knew I would be dead if I didn't call 911. The ambulance came, I couldn't even go answer the door, they had to force their way in with a cop's help. By the time I was taken to the ambulance I had blacked out, first time in my life, very scary. Woke up in the ER, on a ventilator to help me breathe. Finally I found out what was wrong with me. In my case, I inherited heart failure, it runs on my mom's side. That is what killed her, her twin brother, and several sisters. Thank goodness we are still alive, VJ! Take care of yourself and long life to you.
My brother showed me ICP when i was 10 im now 35 and i am still down with the clown and will be forever! Their music is awesome and they are the most humble, down to earth guys! I wish everyone would give them more recognition and respect. Their music is so different from anything else and at times very deep and has alot of meaning behind it. Love you J and Shaggs! Thank you Steveo for this awesome interview
how could anyone not be grinin while around J hes a cool ass dude an im just glad people are actully able to see it all these years later because for a very long time people hated ICP
I noticed that too. They're good friends and have been a while now!! I'm also glad people are seeing J for who he really is cause like someone mentioned before me, a lot of people hated ICP. (Most hated band!)
I noticed that too. They're good friends and have been a while now!! I'm also glad people are seeing J for who he really is cause like someone mentioned before me, a lot of people hated ICP. (Most hated band!)
It's so crazy that I grew up watching these guys, they're always so haywire and part of my childhood with ICP and jackass. Now to see them both up there sober with more honesty integrity than any politician you could think of is heartwarming. I love you guys thanks for putting this episode together. I can't wait to hear Steve-O rap again 🔥
I almost liked your comment, and then I read the last line wanting Steve-O to rap again and I thought I'd send you this reply instead. Steve-O is awesome, but not at rapping
Stevo has a gift of being able to break down walls of people and making them comfortable to discuss very hard issues. I'm so proud of him for being/remaining sober. Also, VJ-good job man. Keep doing good.
Stevo you’ll never read this, but I was a heroin attic at 15 a full-blown alcoholic at 17. I overdosed three times died once. And you have been an inspiration to me. Please keep doing what you’re doing because people like me see you and your beautiful wife and your life that you built being a junkie and a piece of shit, and still coming out on top. Thank you for everything you do!
You were an addict. You were addicted to substances, which is a horrible addiction. Notice the keyword "addict". Also note the keyword "WERE"-past tense.
Loved ICP in middle school and as a man I have much respect for these guys and everything they’ve built and accomplished. Very humble and enjoying life!
Before everyone had the internet and a cell phone, hearing something like The Great Milenko for the first time when you were a little kid just hit different. The only music we had access to was the TV or radio, and most of the chain stores wouldn't even carry rap, death metal, etc. CDs were passed around and shared like.... well nothing today. Nobody does that with anything anymore. But when they did, when you heard shit like ICP for the first time, it just made it that much more alluring. And they're still doing it after all that time.
Steve recognizing that J MAY BE STRUGGLING with sobriety and being supportive BUT mentioning that if what J is doing STOPS working that there are other opitons.....YOUR A GOOD MAN STEVE-O....WE LOVE YOU J...BE WELL BROTHER 1:00:22
Yup and you could see stevo attitude shift slightly knowing J isn’t quite where he needs to be but at the same time in the middle of an interview isn’t the place to address it. I love J but he is still in denial a little hope he gets where he needs to be we do recover
Can't really say I'm much of a fan of their stuff, but gotta give them credit for essentially crafting their own whole culture and giving people a place and a community to be part of, so kudos.
I grew up listening to J and shaggy since ring master dropped. I’m a family man now and I don’t listen to the new stuff after the 6th jokers card but, these interviews just make me happy to get to know the guys that had such a big influence on me when I was young. Thanks J and Shagz and the rest of the Psychopathic crew.
💯 He's made such progress in just a year! I hope the Duke of the Wicked is with us for many many many more years...! The same goes for Steve-O...! Much love WhoopX² 💚🤘💚
The way this dude speaks about his fans and his people is str8 up admirable... Their music may not appeal to many but the sheer fuckin loyalty is unmatched... Str8 respect to this man
Ive never enjoyed ICP's music, but I've thoroughly enjoyed every interview ive seen with Violent J. He just seems like a genuinely good dude who really cares about his fans and his art. Much respect.
ICP music is not for me but I love J & Shaggy as people, they're so humble and hardworking and open like a book. I'm forever fascinated by them. Your friendship with them is so endearing & makes these interviews such a joy to watch. You could have them on your show once a week and I'd never get bored watching them. I'll always be rooting for them!
I know i dont speak for everyone but i am here to say to J, shaggy, Twiztid, boondocks, abk and roc and anyone else that held the hatchet that all of you could retire tomorrow and it be well deserved. You provided so much to this world only for it to constantly turn around and shit on you. You guys are legends.
Been a juggalette since I was 11 years old. Went to my first ICP concert in the 8th grade at 12. I absolutely love them. They are the most misunderstood and awesome band and it’s so cool to see so many people commenting on how humble and awesome Violent J is.
Violent J, if you read this, I listened to your music all the time back in the day with my buddy Hector who introduced me to you guys. He just passed away a couple months ago way too young at age 40 from diabetes complications, which doesn't even seem real... But you guys and your music make me think of him. This podcast was great and it's so refreshing to see what a real, authentic dude you are. Keep on doing your thing, man.
So happy these guys are getting the respect they deserve and it isn't cool to hate them for no reason anymore. They got so much hate just because it was like the "cool" thing to do. Love them or hate them you can't deny they stayed true to themselves and never sold out and always stayed humble. They could've road off into the sunset a million times and be set forever but they kept going ignoring the hate and doing them pretty much strictly for their fans, and you have to respect that.
Been a huge fan since the 90s. Just got sober this year and J’s way of going about staying sober is very close to how I’ve been going about it. I’ve heard a lot of interviews but Steve-O’s are the best. He’s talking to Joe and Joey, not Violent J and Shaggy. It’s great!! All great dudes!
I am a huge fan of their music, been listening to them since I was a kid, 20 years ago. Glad you are doing better J, Steve O, thank you for having him on. This is truly enjoyable!
Even if you don't like their music you have to admit that Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope are amaziongly interesting people. They have so many crazy stories and a great attitude. Their continued success despite being so niche speaks volumes about their marketing skills.I firmly believe that getting caught in a faygo and confetti shower while homies is playing is an experience everyone should have before they die.
Violent J is a cool ass dude. I was a juggalo in the late 90s and one time after a show in Tucson I had a backstage pass and met icp and I asked j if he had any weed cus I was all out, dude reached in his pocket pulled out a bag and said keep it bro. What a cool ass dude
@@JuggaloNY was blessed to have made it to 21, and 22.and i drove both years all the way from arizona (62 hrs each wayy 🤣)I missed this year on account that my brother got married and I needed to save some scratch for that . but I made it to shaggy quest for the ultimate groove in las vegas and I'll be in Mesa az Oct 8th for the 2nd leg of the 3 headed monster.. I attend everything that comes thru arizona, and las vegas!! How about yourself ninja??
@lurch_beats5295 fuck yes I ran into an O-J! I knew there was one buried in here. This was 15 for me this year. We did 7 consecutive in Illinois 30hr one way. I think you got me beat. Lol, Very very rare that I find Fam that has driven farther. Usually after that amount of time people fly. But fuk dat! I need to bring supplies. WhoopX² MMFCL from 🏕 Camp Candy Castle&Crew=C4 🍬🏰💥
Been juggling with the scene since 1998 and still here for it! Had an awesome gathering a few months ago! Met some of the freshest ppl in my life through shows and gatherings! It really is remarkable how it’s all turned out the way it has and the fact that it’s still going on! See y’all at the 30th Anniversary of Hallowicked!!
I’ve never actually had an interest in ICP other than just basic knowledge of the music and fan base. I’m glad I watched this episode coz I’ve gotta say that my interest has been peaked due to how Violent J has come across this interview. What a genuinely cool dude. My type of people no doubt. ✊🏻 Respect to ya
I've been a fan of ICP since 1996 when I was only 12 years old which is 27 years now. I kinda lost track of them for a while but always dug how cool both J and Shaggy are. Even saw them play with Biohazard in Washington DC at the 9:30 Club back in I think 1998. I still remember that show! This is a really great interview.
ICP is one of those groups that go beyond their music. Even if you've never heard a single song of theirs you still know who they are, thats a hard thing to pull off
My brother is a devoted juggalo. Growing up I heard their music secondhand off him and it horrified me as a kid but was always musically good. As a result I know many ICP songs by heart pretty much against my will haha But I also love them in a way.
i grew up listening to ICP. i havent listened to them in years but i still keep up with j and shaggy. they hold a special place in my heart. their music def. helped me thru shit times.
Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope has been in almost every major pro wrestling promotion that you can think of WWF/WWE, WCW, TNA, and ROH then they made there own
I don't listen to ICP except on rare occasions but they've always been at the top of my list of rappers I'd smoke a blunt with dudes are so chill and genuine
I love ICP. These dudes work so hard, and they’ve Made it. Not a JUGGALO, but a fan who supports all of it. (Such humble and honest dudes, so inspiring.)
Kinda needed this episode tonight. Not just the laughs, but the real shit! Love to hear about the journeys of people like Steve-O and J, as well as how they view and deal with their situations. Gives you different perspectives on shit.
Even if you’re not a fan of their music or you don’t like their fans you have to see them in concert. They put on the best concerts ever. My first concert was ICP in October 1998 at Hara arena and I still go.
I can’t stand their fans and most of their music but shaggy and violent j are some of the most down to earth,genuine people and whether you like the music or not,they were massively influential in building the Detroit rap scene
Joe and Joey practically raised so many of us. Theyve been amazing humans and role models (maybe not CONSTANTLY 😂) both on, and off screen, and id like to think most of us are just so glad to still have both of them here, and healthy. Long live the wicked clowns, long live the wicked shit. MmfCL Whoop WHOOOP mothafakoos🤡🖤
They changed my life in high-school, started listening around riddle box , I Remember skipping school to grab bizzar bizarre and twisted freak show on Halloween my senior year , them wa the days ! Glad to see they haven't changed one bit!!
Thank you for this!! Cant wait to see you guys in Detroit on Halloween!!! Been a fan since 1997 this will be my first ICP SHOW, AND im from Michigan as well but live in Cincinnati now..
I can't wait to hear a track with Violent J and Steve-O. I need to get my hustle on so maybe I could be in the room for it some day! This one was truly a Wild Ride. Thank you guys.
I thoroughly enjoyed this one, I’m so glad he was back on. I knew about ICP as a teen, but in business school (damn near 20 years ago), my professor had us do a study on them (seriously). Ever since, I’ve always had respect for what they’ve built and how they’ve done it. J is a pleasant guy and I wish him well. Also, Miracles is my favorite. I like that they’re humble and don’t take themselves too seriously.
As a Jugg of many years, finding an icp interview worth watching, that has new stories is hard. Hopefully this doesn't disappoint. Cj Lawler is my male life mate, and I am gonna stick things in place at Hallowicked
Back in the 90s, my little sister and her best friend were super into ICP. I wasn't, but to the extent I was exposed to them and their craziness, I definitely enjoyed it. I remember watching stranglemania with them on VHS tapes and just cracking up from all the silly shit they talked about. I'm glad to hear they're still doing so well for themselves all these years later.
Violet J is the best! I remember jumping up on stage with him and giving him a hug back in 1996 @ The Whistle Stop in Kalamazoo, MI... One of my best teenage memories.
Fucking love you for this Steve. ICP in the haugh! Glad to hear J is doing so much better. Hope they both can keep going strong for years to come. #Whoopx2
The Duke of the Wicked looks so much healthier this year on stage. I was nervous in the pit last year watching him. V-J looked like death. SO GLAD he's doing better!! Violent J is the man! Thank you both for doing this Podcast.
These comments are so heartwarming ❤been listening to icp since i was 9 no matter who made fun of me or tried to stop me ! People actually tried to warn me that i was being corrupted 😂 Listening to their music, i just felt understood ! I loved the message buried within that most people couldn’t see cause all they hear is the shit they want to hear. They structured there music to reach the people they wanted to reach very well What absolute fucking legends! Juggalo till the day i die and in the next life!!!! Whoop whoop!!🤡🪓 Everyone and there momma got clown love ❤️
The clowns get too much hate. It wasn't until I watched them in interviews that I became a fan of theirs. They are decent guys who care about their fans.
I think people just see the paint, the attitude in the music videos/events, and the music itself and assume they are full of hate. Like if you really listen it's honestly just like they give their intrusive thoughts an outlet through their music. 90% of their songs are a miss for me personally. But I have always been a fan of Shaggy and J because of the things they say outside of their "character" setting where they can express their own personal outlooks. Then you start to see, nah, these dudes are full of love.
J is a legit good dude. I ran Into him after a beatles tribute concert at the fox like 12 years ago. My gf at the time asked if we could hang out and the guy took us to 2 bars and the strip club in his limo for 2 hrs. It was super cool. He bought us a couple drinks and hung out and talked to us like we were his homies. They dropped us back off at our car and that was that. Super fucking cool guy.
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@@adrian-qr6zk The fuck are you on about? lol
What a badass story. Thank you
Just wait until you find about all the children he grooms
Yeah. That too @@adrian-qr6zk
I’m so glad so many people nowadays are seeing what kind of person Violent J actually is. He’s really a VERY down to Earth, sweet person. He’ll forever be a legend. Even to people who aren’t Juggalos. Anyone who respects a real human being can’t help but respect Violent J.
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You've got the winning comment! Imo
He talks about torturing people WTH is wrong with you!!
Pp
@@csb772 its songs bro, theres THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of songs talking about all the natures of life from good to bad. Get over it
Man, this man is a literal icon. Icp, regardless if you love em, hate em or don't care, they were literally self made, humble ass dudes, that genuinely love the family they have created. I hope he continues to be healthy and happy.
Except they stole their entire fucking act and then later on got caught stealing music and settled out of court. They even stole poetry.
@@septixskeptix1107 what act did they steal? they pretty much in their own genre, they dont sound or rap like anyone else.
*When people use words they do not know the definition of. Lol. Literal... No.
@septixskeptix1107 Called out weeks ago. Still can't come with receipts. STALE Stan
@@JuggaloNY Look it up dumb dumb. They settled out of court for the stolen instrumentals and they stole the wicked clown horror shit from Esham, another Detroit horrorcore rapper. They stole some guy's poetry word for word.
I was a heroin addict for 8 years. I'm coming up on three years clean in October. I am the same way and don't go to meetings anymore because of the exact reasons he listed. I don't have urges I don't think about it I've come to terms with everything I've done in my life and I feel if I go to meetings I'm going to be thinking about it and it's going to do more harm than good. I 100% relate to him on that
I hear ya!
Never was an ICP fan but wickedly appreciate what they've built, this was an awesome interview and J seems like such a really cool guy.
Respect!
Loved ICP as a kid through my teens. Fell off with them but never forgot how much they meant to me then.
Same same. The first set of joker cards and FF Vol. 1&2 will forever be remembered to me as albums that meant so much to me!!
I seen them live and got smashed in the face with an unopened 3 liter of faygo in like 2003.
no u didnt @@chiphargis2419
same. 2 of my best homies acually looked like them when painted up. I was more a DJ screw fan being in Houston but had good times with the native juggalos and juggaletts lol
Not a big fan of their newest output, but love the first 6 and bizarre 1&2.
Violent J is such a great, humble guy. I love hearing his stories and I’m glad he’s doing well now. Really great interview, I love how close J and Steve-O are.
Whoop whoop! 🤡
You should check out his “behind the paint” book. There’s an audio version read by him, it’s fresh.
@@17valley I listened to all of it! It's so amazing. Imma listen to it again because you reminded me of it!
Y’know what I’m sayin?
Forget Rodney Mullen: Mick FOLLEY
I've never been a fan of their music but have so much respect for J and Shaggy. The hustle they have is next level. Thanks Steve for bringing J back on the show. His stories are epic and the conversation always goes smoothly.
I know what you mean
Palabra straight up y'all should Gather next year. Y'all would find it's like Shangri-La on earth. Come back to THIS comment a couple of months before and let's make it happen. I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE THAT GIVE ME A CHANCE TO TELL EM, THAT IT SHOULD BE ON EVERYBODY'S BUCKET LIST.
WHOOP WHOOP MMFCL NINJA
SALUDOS FROM EDINBURG,TEXAS THE VALLEY 956
Same. I would love to go to The Gathering just for the experience though.
@@Tsureiki let's go I'd be happy to be there for your first time, me personally I've gone since 2011 except for 2017 18th annual fuklahoma. It was wack. Let make it happen homie.
Been a Juggalo since I was 10 (1993) and J has helped me through some of my worst moments with the music he and Shaggy put out... Their song "Forever" kept me alive after my son died, and I proudly have that hatchetman Tat (since 2003) Thanks for having J on again, yo!!! Whoop Whoop!!! Respect to the Non-Juggalos showing the Don Mega some love!
So cringe.
@@DuvalRypr what was the point of this? what's actually cringe is some idiot child trying to be edgy and cool putting someone down because you don't like the same things. next time just keep scrolling cause nobody wants to hear it.
@@DuvalRypr didn't ask for an opinion, and also, comments like this... "So cringe!" 🙄
He's smart getting all white trash to listen to his music 😂😂😂😂
@@DuvalRyprThe only thing "so cringe" here is your attempt to put someone else down and be an Internet troll. I hope you suffer. ❤️
This just solidifies me as an icp fan. Shaggy and J are the definition of self made. They literally did EVERYTHING on there own. That's just insane. The chemistry between J and steve is AWESOME! nothing but respect. I remember ICP in wcw. I legit remember Kanyon, he was a good wrestler. 31:44 bro you can HEAR the pain in J's voice when he said that. Much love to both Steve and J. Thank you both.
Not just that but the way they see people who haven't made it. They treat them like human beings and have empathy they deserve it.
Agreed. I was introduced to icp via Kotton Mouth Kings and it was the best thang ever
It especially comes into perspective when you realize that, Jive Records, the first label who EVER signed them back in the post-Ringmaster/Riddlebox days, absolutely refused to circuit their records outside of Detroit, let alone Michigan. They were told that they think their type of music is something only people from Detroit would understand/enjoy. When ICP realized that, they threw a dart at a map of the US and it landed in Texas. Joe, Rob, Joey, Legz Diamond, Billy Bill, Rude Boy, and Alex got in a van and drove to Texas with four boxes full of Riddlebox CD's and cassettes. They then split up into two teams, one went to Dallas and the other went to Houston. After less than a month not only did they completely sell all four boxes but they had record stores in both Dallas and Houston calling Jive to order more.
Jive congratulated them, said what they did was amazing, and then pulled the exact same shit by refusing to distribute anywhere outside Michigan or Texas because they still thought it was a "niche" thing.
So, Alex started shopping around for another label and found Hollywood. Under HEAVY scrutiny ICP recorded Great Milenko for Hollywood, only for it to be immediately pulled off the shelves the very same day it got released. After a legal battle, Island Def Jam decided to sign them, but ICP had re-record the entirety of Great Milenko again for numerous reasons (one being that Hollywood made them censor themselves heavily, while Island Def Jam wanted them to be as edgy as possible because they wanted to take advantage of what they thought was going to be a huge media blowup when they revealed ICP's record got pulled).
So yeah they were signed to labels, but every single label they were on (including Island Def Jam) worked against them to varying degrees rather than help promote them which is - y'know - the entire point of having a label, and at worst hindered them completely forcing them to still do it all on their own with or without a label.
More like self made child abuser ☠️
not a fan of the music but I absolute love him and shaggy. such humble and pure dudes. I watch every interview. it's really inspiring to see how far they came. awesome interview Steve o.
People who don't like ICP's music or at least don't find the humor in it are either personality-less or NPCs.
@@Montrovantisthat's not how music taste works
@@Montrovantisor they just don’t like horrible lyrics and watching 2 middle aged white dudes act like they’re 12
Some of there music and art is pretty cool too. Not all of it, but they got some bangers.
@@Montrovantisyou're an example of why people don't like ICP fans dude.
That was a killer interview,I've been sober for close to 20 years and can relate to both. I'm like Violent J,i never did AA,just always told myself,drink again and you may as well pull the trigger because it's poison in a bottle in so many ways. Congrats to both of you and whoever reads this. Whoop Whoop.
1 year 2 week for me🎉🎉🎉
4 years sober, just did group therapy and normal therapy and very happy to be clean and on my own path
I was able to do that with stimulants but not opioids.. and when I got clean off opioids I craved alcohol far
@@izzydeadyet7336same on every aspect of this comment.
@@rickymassey I was on opiates 15 years, got clean and couldnt stop thinking about alcohol! I realized I'm an alcoholic, like my dad, but the opioid was blocking the temptation to drink! I told my mum I'm an alcoholic and she laughed, because I never drink, but shes been babysitting my dads antics for 40 years.. she has no idea how I could become him in an instant.. the pills ,opioids, help with alot, but I'm sick of needing them! I loved being sober but the alcohol was deffinitly an obstacle..It's like you cam never win..
Him saying, “ you just gotta eat it.” is so real. Eating pain, forcing it down. Not to be dramatic, but accepting pain and swallowing it has helped me a lot.
I needed to read this.. thank you
No pain, no gain…. Peace💯
“We hungry.”
I feel ya, Violent J. I was diagnosed with heart failure in April of 2022. I had had this swelling in my right foot for awhile, had been trying to find out what was causing it but the doctor didn't know because the tests they did didn't show anything abnormal. Then my right calf started swelling up and I became severely winded, like you described. One night all of a sudden, I could not breathe. I knew I would be dead if I didn't call 911. The ambulance came, I couldn't even go answer the door, they had to force their way in with a cop's help. By the time I was taken to the ambulance I had blacked out, first time in my life, very scary. Woke up in the ER, on a ventilator to help me breathe. Finally I found out what was wrong with me. In my case, I inherited heart failure, it runs on my mom's side. That is what killed her, her twin brother, and several sisters. Thank goodness we are still alive, VJ! Take care of yourself and long life to you.
Oof, that's rough
My brother showed me ICP when i was 10 im now 35 and i am still down with the clown and will be forever! Their music is awesome and they are the most humble, down to earth guys! I wish everyone would give them more recognition and respect. Their music is so different from anything else and at times very deep and has alot of meaning behind it. Love you J and Shaggs! Thank you Steveo for this awesome interview
13 when my best pal showed me Milenko ✌️❤️
Down w the clown til I'm dead in the ground
Their music sucks but yeah
I'm blown away by how down to earth and cool this guy is.
You should check out his book, Behind the Paint. It's awesome
@@codytraweek4407 lol
Me too
Me too I had no idea
@@PluralofvinylisvinylsI'm sure someone could teach you to read!
Man it’s really obvious how much Steve admires J. Steve was grinning during a lot of J’s stories.
how could anyone not be grinin while around J hes a cool ass dude an im just glad people are actully able to see it all these years later because for a very long time people hated ICP
I noticed that too. They're good friends and have been a while now!! I'm also glad people are seeing J for who he really is cause like someone mentioned before me, a lot of people hated ICP. (Most hated band!)
I noticed that too. They're good friends and have been a while now!! I'm also glad people are seeing J for who he really is cause like someone mentioned before me, a lot of people hated ICP. (Most hated band!)
It's so crazy that I grew up watching these guys, they're always so haywire and part of my childhood with ICP and jackass. Now to see them both up there sober with more honesty integrity than any politician you could think of is heartwarming. I love you guys thanks for putting this episode together. I can't wait to hear Steve-O rap again 🔥
Absolutely!
I almost liked your comment, and then I read the last line wanting Steve-O to rap again and I thought I'd send you this reply instead. Steve-O is awesome, but not at rapping
Violent J would make a good politician, he'd be splitting wigs at every debate 😂
Stevo has a gift of being able to break down walls of people and making them comfortable to discuss very hard issues. I'm so proud of him for being/remaining sober. Also, VJ-good job man. Keep doing good.
Both these guys are amazing human beings. Love seeing them both sober and living their lives!
Stevo you’ll never read this, but I was a heroin attic at 15 a full-blown alcoholic at 17. I overdosed three times died once. And you have been an inspiration to me. Please keep doing what you’re doing because people like me see you and your beautiful wife and your life that you built being a junkie and a piece of shit, and still coming out on top. Thank you for everything you do!
Glad you’re still here with us, keep it up.
"attic" lmaoooo
Hardcore attic
You were an addict. You were addicted to substances, which is a horrible addiction. Notice the keyword "addict".
Also note the keyword "WERE"-past tense.
@@NeddFlandersAn addict is always an addict. It's a life long disease.
Loved ICP in middle school and as a man I have much respect for these guys and everything they’ve built and accomplished. Very humble and enjoying life!
Before everyone had the internet and a cell phone, hearing something like The Great Milenko for the first time when you were a little kid just hit different. The only music we had access to was the TV or radio, and most of the chain stores wouldn't even carry rap, death metal, etc. CDs were passed around and shared like.... well nothing today. Nobody does that with anything anymore. But when they did, when you heard shit like ICP for the first time, it just made it that much more alluring. And they're still doing it after all that time.
Steve recognizing that J MAY BE STRUGGLING with sobriety and being supportive BUT mentioning that if what J is doing STOPS working that there are other opitons.....YOUR A GOOD MAN STEVE-O....WE LOVE YOU J...BE WELL BROTHER 1:00:22
Yup and you could see stevo attitude shift slightly knowing J isn’t quite where he needs to be but at the same time in the middle of an interview isn’t the place to address it. I love J but he is still in denial a little hope he gets where he needs to be we do recover
And props to stevo reading the energy but not being disrespectful
Can't really say I'm much of a fan of their stuff, but gotta give them credit for essentially crafting their own whole culture and giving people a place and a community to be part of, so kudos.
Glad to see both of these legends thriving out here 🔥
I grew up listening to J and shaggy since ring master dropped. I’m a family man now and I don’t listen to the new stuff after the 6th jokers card but, these interviews just make me happy to get to know the guys that had such a big influence on me when I was young. Thanks J and Shagz and the rest of the Psychopathic crew.
😢
Super kind, humble dude. Just further proves, no one should lay judgement on anyone else.
That's the whole Juggalo message right there! 💥💪
@@greensheeplizz2289 You ain't a lie
But if it a grown up wearing clown makeup ehhhhhh maybe
honestly im so proud of J. he really is an inspiration
It’s a f@#$%^g miracle you know what I’m saying” 😂😊
@michelleeastridge3065 What are you saying? 😆 🤣
💯 He's made such progress in just a year! I hope the Duke of the Wicked is with us for many many many more years...! The same goes for Steve-O...! Much love WhoopX² 💚🤘💚
Inspiration for who? I can’t think of a worse role model. Icp is the ultimate bottom feeder garbage.
Amen.
The way this dude speaks about his fans and his people is str8 up admirable... Their music may not appeal to many but the sheer fuckin loyalty is unmatched... Str8 respect to this man
Two dudes I listened to and watched since my teens. Never thought id see this interview but definitely happy it happened.
Ive never enjoyed ICP's music, but I've thoroughly enjoyed every interview ive seen with Violent J. He just seems like a genuinely good dude who really cares about his fans and his art. Much respect.
Hyped for this! Always will have love for ICP and the memories made growing up listening to them and the rest of Psychopathic records!
ICP was my 1st concert back in 8th grade. 09 The bang pow boom tour. Glad Violent J is back on the podcast!
Must have had some terrible parent(s) to be allowed to go to that
@WiseOwl_1408 when did you start listening to ICP? Or do you?
That was my first show too. In cleveland
ICP music is not for me but I love J & Shaggy as people, they're so humble and hardworking and open like a book. I'm forever fascinated by them. Your friendship with them is so endearing & makes these interviews such a joy to watch. You could have them on your show once a week and I'd never get bored watching them. I'll always be rooting for them!
I know i dont speak for everyone but i am here to say to J, shaggy, Twiztid, boondocks, abk and roc and anyone else that held the hatchet that all of you could retire tomorrow and it be well deserved. You provided so much to this world only for it to constantly turn around and shit on you. You guys are legends.
Been a juggalette since I was 11 years old. Went to my first ICP concert in the 8th grade at 12. I absolutely love them. They are the most misunderstood and awesome band and it’s so cool to see so many people commenting on how humble and awesome Violent J is.
I been down since I was 13 been 17 years went to my first concert in 08 and met them in 2012 at the American psycho tour
@@juggaloj-money4681 you met them?! Im jealous
Whoop whoop
Much love homie
I think they’re the most undeservedly understood band of all time
Violent J, if you read this, I listened to your music all the time back in the day with my buddy Hector who introduced me to you guys. He just passed away a couple months ago way too young at age 40 from diabetes complications, which doesn't even seem real... But you guys and your music make me think of him. This podcast was great and it's so refreshing to see what a real, authentic dude you are. Keep on doing your thing, man.
Sorry for your loss.
Shaggy and Jay are always surprisingly well spoken and kind. Respect.
Shaggy" know what I'm sayin?"
He says “you know what I mean” every 10 seconds. So eloquent
@@Kingspade419So it's Violent J-Roc. So what?
So happy these guys are getting the respect they deserve and it isn't cool to hate them for no reason anymore. They got so much hate just because it was like the "cool" thing to do. Love them or hate them you can't deny they stayed true to themselves and never sold out and always stayed humble. They could've road off into the sunset a million times and be set forever but they kept going ignoring the hate and doing them pretty much strictly for their fans, and you have to respect that.
Been a huge fan since the 90s. Just got sober this year and J’s way of going about staying sober is very close to how I’ve been going about it. I’ve heard a lot of interviews but Steve-O’s are the best. He’s talking to Joe and Joey, not Violent J and Shaggy. It’s great!! All great dudes!
This podcast was epic. Been listening to icp for 25 years
I’m very sorry
I am a huge fan of their music, been listening to them since I was a kid, 20 years ago. Glad you are doing better J, Steve O, thank you for having him on. This is truly enjoyable!
Even if you don't like their music you have to admit that Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope are amaziongly interesting people. They have so many crazy stories and a great attitude. Their continued success despite being so niche speaks volumes about their marketing skills.I firmly believe that getting caught in a faygo and confetti shower while homies is playing is an experience everyone should have before they die.
I love how these Michigan guys never leave. I'm at from Kalamazoo and I left never to come back but I still have so much love and Michigan pride.
Violent J is a cool ass dude. I was a juggalo in the late 90s and one time after a show in Tucson I had a backstage pass and met icp and I asked j if he had any weed cus I was all out, dude reached in his pocket pulled out a bag and said keep it bro. What a cool ass dude
Nice!
Whoop Whoop, I'm blessed to have been apart of the juggalo community since I was 13 (now 29) thank you Joe and Joey... you guys changed my life.
💯 you made it to any gathering Fam?
@@JuggaloNY was blessed to have made it to 21, and 22.and i drove both years all the way from arizona (62 hrs each wayy 🤣)I missed this year on account that my brother got married and I needed to save some scratch for that . but I made it to shaggy quest for the ultimate groove in las vegas and I'll be in Mesa az Oct 8th for the 2nd leg of the 3 headed monster.. I attend everything that comes thru arizona, and las vegas!! How about yourself ninja??
@lurch_beats5295 fuck yes I ran into an O-J! I knew there was one buried in here. This was 15 for me this year. We did 7 consecutive in Illinois 30hr one way. I think you got me beat. Lol, Very very rare that I find Fam that has driven farther. Usually after that amount of time people fly. But fuk dat! I need to bring supplies. WhoopX² MMFCL from 🏕 Camp Candy Castle&Crew=C4 🍬🏰💥
Whoop Whoop!
@@Creature665 WhoopX²
Been juggling with the scene since 1998 and still here for it! Had an awesome gathering a few months ago! Met some of the freshest ppl in my life through shows and gatherings! It really is remarkable how it’s all turned out the way it has and the fact that it’s still going on! See y’all at the 30th Anniversary of Hallowicked!!
The gathering was dope fam !
Yes, it was! It's always dope as fuck man!
Have to say R.I.P. to Juggalo Jesus. He will be missed 😢 by many!!!
@@JuggaloNY I’ve went and vlogged the last 4. I already have made plans to be there next year and each year after
@@adventuresofmoonman what's your TH-cam? Or where do you post your vlogs?
J looks so scary & he’s actually SO NICE!!! Wtf??? He’s so down to Earth & genuine!!!
I’ve never actually had an interest in ICP other than just basic knowledge of the music and fan base. I’m glad I watched this episode coz I’ve gotta say that my interest has been peaked due to how Violent J has come across this interview. What a genuinely cool dude. My type of people no doubt. ✊🏻 Respect to ya
Was a huge fan since I was a teen! Don’t really listen to the music as much anymore but still love them!
Violent J looks better than ever.
Wtf you mean he looks exactly the same 😂😂 he look like a clown
Loved this interview. Glad to hear J is doing well. You guys have a great vibe together, definitely bring him back in the future!
Violent J is just such a good dude. What a great interview.
I've been a fan of ICP since 1996 when I was only 12 years old which is 27 years now. I kinda lost track of them for a while but always dug how cool both J and Shaggy are. Even saw them play with Biohazard in Washington DC at the 9:30 Club back in I think 1998. I still remember that show! This is a really great interview.
Glad to finally get another episode! I could listen to VJ tell stories all day! Big whoops fam
Whoop whoop
Whoop Whoop!
Whoop whoop brothers ❤
Have you listened to J’s Behind the Paint audiobook
whoop whoop
ICP is one of those groups that go beyond their music. Even if you've never heard a single song of theirs you still know who they are, thats a hard thing to pull off
Hell ya man. Dude is so down to earth man. Real guy that made his own path
Dude I'm not an ICP music fan but I just really appreciate this guy. Good vibes
I love the fact that all yall are clean and sober! Me not so much. But I'm proud of you!
My brother is a devoted juggalo. Growing up I heard their music secondhand off him and it horrified me as a kid but was always musically good. As a result I know many ICP songs by heart pretty much against my will haha But I also love them in a way.
I love seeing great artists that you don’t get to hear from often, on the wildride! Violent J is an outstanding guest, this episode was great! ❤
The legendary Violent J has contributed to the happiness, entertainment, and support system of countless people through his creative talents
I'm already hyped for this little Violent J and Steve-O collab. My favorite podcast to date.
I've never been a fan of their music but I know for damn sure that ICP are a national treasure!
I met him a few years ago, he bought me a beer at Sammy’s & was a total gentleman!
Wish he would come back to Mobile
🙌🏻 🙌🏻
i grew up listening to ICP. i havent listened to them in years but i still keep up with j and shaggy. they hold a special place in my heart. their music def. helped me thru shit times.
Complete this line......
"What do you do with a drunken hill Billy?....."
@@adamgardener8624 cut his f**kin eyes out and feed him to his aunt milly .
lol I grew up listening to this band non stop .
Whoop whoooop you're the man, brother
Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope has been in almost every major pro wrestling promotion that you can think of WWF/WWE, WCW, TNA, and ROH then they made there own
I don't listen to ICP except on rare occasions but they've always been at the top of my list of rappers I'd smoke a blunt with dudes are so chill and genuine
I'm not an ICP fan at all. I can't stand their music but I have huge respect for Violent J. The dude is totally real and down to earth. God bless him.
I’m so happy Steve has a podcast. Another legend I can tune into and learn more about.
Dope episode I’m not the biggest fan of the music but mad respect to ICP great humble guys . They deserve all the success
I love ICP.
These dudes work so hard, and they’ve Made it.
Not a JUGGALO, but a fan who supports all of it.
(Such humble and honest dudes, so inspiring.)
sounds like you could be a juggalo yourself man. try coming to the gathering or an ICP show.. you might fall in love with it too
Just start repping Juggalo. Dont be a closet queer.
I will never forget my ICP shows back in the day. That shit was so wild. The memories from the OG 6 cards is for sure the greatest memories.
Gotta say I’ve never really listened to ICP but Violent J seems like a great dude.
Kinda needed this episode tonight. Not just the laughs, but the real shit! Love to hear about the journeys of people like Steve-O and J, as well as how they view and deal with their situations. Gives you different perspectives on shit.
Even if you’re not a fan of their music or you don’t like their fans you have to see them in concert. They put on the best concerts ever. My first concert was ICP in October 1998 at Hara arena and I still go.
I should go to one
Love J. I used to see him, SugarSlam, and JJ grocery shopping at Meijer all the time. Super approachable and down to earth, just a regular Joe (Bruce)
I can’t stand their fans and most of their music but shaggy and violent j are some of the most down to earth,genuine people and whether you like the music or not,they were massively influential in building the Detroit rap scene
I don't watch/listen to podcasts but this made my heart smile!
Joe and Joey practically raised so many of us. Theyve been amazing humans and role models (maybe not CONSTANTLY 😂) both on, and off screen, and id like to think most of us are just so glad to still have both of them here, and healthy. Long live the wicked clowns, long live the wicked shit.
MmfCL
Whoop WHOOOP mothafakoos🤡🖤
Whoop whoop mmfwcl
Whoop whoop
They changed my life in high-school, started listening around riddle box , I Remember skipping school to grab bizzar bizarre and twisted freak show on Halloween my senior year , them wa the days ! Glad to see they haven't changed one bit!!
Cheers brother ❤
Whoop Whoop! oh wait, fuck twiztid now they screw people over, mans myth and mutant were good though
Steve o is killing it with these time stamps
Steve o is such a good dude it’s almost not real. It’s cool watching someone you looked up to as a kid evolve into better and better things.
Then why would he be trying to get out of paying income taxes?
Thank you for this!! Cant wait to see you guys in Detroit on Halloween!!! Been a fan since 1997 this will be my first ICP SHOW, AND im from Michigan as well but live in Cincinnati now..
I can't wait to hear a track with Violent J and Steve-O. I need to get my hustle on so maybe I could be in the room for it some day! This one was truly a Wild Ride. Thank you guys.
I thoroughly enjoyed this one, I’m so glad he was back on. I knew about ICP as a teen, but in business school (damn near 20 years ago), my professor had us do a study on them (seriously). Ever since, I’ve always had respect for what they’ve built and how they’ve done it. J is a pleasant guy and I wish him well. Also, Miracles is my favorite. I like that they’re humble and don’t take themselves too seriously.
Joe is always an interesting guest. I'm listening to his audio book now and he's a genius for sure.
As a Jugg of many years, finding an icp interview worth watching, that has new stories is hard. Hopefully this doesn't disappoint. Cj Lawler is my male life mate, and I am gonna stick things in place at Hallowicked
Damn Violent J seems like a nice dude. I've always had a lot of admiration for the ICP guys, they come across as really earnest guys
Back in the 90s, my little sister and her best friend were super into ICP. I wasn't, but to the extent I was exposed to them and their craziness, I definitely enjoyed it.
I remember watching stranglemania with them on VHS tapes and just cracking up from all the silly shit they talked about. I'm glad to hear they're still doing so well for themselves all these years later.
Thursdays are a great day because of Steve-O and the gang! Love this podcast! YEAH DUDE!
Right on!! Thank you!
Great interview. You know what I’m saying?
Violet J is the best!
I remember jumping up on stage with him and giving him a hug back in 1996 @ The Whistle Stop in Kalamazoo, MI... One of my best teenage memories.
RIP Kanyon he was EXTREMELY wise. The most underrated wrestler. Even better human. He deserved much better.
Fucking love you for this Steve. ICP in the haugh! Glad to hear J is doing so much better. Hope they both can keep going strong for years to come. #Whoopx2
Lol, that's so cool you have a hashtag spelled Whoopx2. My sign-off is this. I came up with it but it's very close to yours. "WhoopX²"
So WhoopX² MMFCL from Camp Candy Castle&Crew 🍬🏰💥
Jay looked like death on stage last year. But this year he was jumping around shooting faygos as it should be! You could tell he feels way better!!
I love you both thanks for all the entertainment and during my very troubled childhood being there in one way or another.
The Duke of the Wicked looks so much healthier this year on stage. I was nervous in the pit last year watching him. V-J looked like death. SO GLAD he's doing better!! Violent J is the man! Thank you both for doing this Podcast.
whoop whoop to everyone out there! I'm so happy he is so humble! I miss the old days!
Man i love ICP bring em back as a recurring guest!!
These comments are so heartwarming ❤been listening to icp since i was 9 no matter who made fun of me or tried to stop me !
People actually tried to warn me that i was being corrupted 😂
Listening to their music, i just felt understood ! I loved the message buried within that most people couldn’t see cause all they hear is the shit they want to hear.
They structured there music to reach the people they wanted to reach very well
What absolute fucking legends!
Juggalo till the day i die and in the next life!!!! Whoop whoop!!🤡🪓
Everyone and there momma got clown love ❤️
The clowns get too much hate. It wasn't until I watched them in interviews that I became a fan of theirs. They are decent guys who care about their fans.
I think people just see the paint, the attitude in the music videos/events, and the music itself and assume they are full of hate.
Like if you really listen it's honestly just like they give their intrusive thoughts an outlet through their music. 90% of their songs are a miss for me personally. But I have always been a fan of Shaggy and J because of the things they say outside of their "character" setting where they can express their own personal outlooks. Then you start to see, nah, these dudes are full of love.