@@dangale123Are you serious? The 2024 Christmas Special about a fat neurotic woman becoming the Star of Bethlehem was a DISASTER! And Moffat wrote it!!
A new show within the OG continuity would work! Nostalgia is so strong right now for the OG series that I can’t believe Universal can be this clueless!
Only problem with an orginal BSG reboot is most of the orginal cast are dead , and recasting all those roles with new actors destroys the concept of being the Orginal series, think Dirk Benedict is the only orginal left and he is in or nearly in his 70s so you would have Commander Starbuck as captain of the Galatica, with new faces being new crew the children that grew up in space. Guess Boxy could be the new space rogue ( like Starbuck used to be) Which reminds me you have to state that Galactica 1980 never happened. Edit looked up Dirk B. He is 79yrs old now 2025, doing a new tv series might be too hard on him . So you would have a reboot without a single returning cast member, that wont pass as the Orginal BSG reboot it would just be a new version more in the orginal mood.
@@lonknight3197not necessarily, what if we had a different ship? This whole thing could be tangential but keeping the look and feel and updating only a small part of the visual effects, everything else the same. Of course had it been for "modern audiences" it could have been far worse than Galactica 1980 at it's lowest (I kind of enjoy some parts of it, but man those scouts are just awful)
@MysticCoder yeah I agree. This decade is just too politically charged to bring something like that back right now. Maybe next decade people will let go of all that shit and TV shows can go back to stories without being politicized.
@@MysticCoder i dont think it's possible to re-imagine the original or the 03 version in this climate without it being turned into some monstrosity to appease the manufactured rage crowd. But i refuse to believe all this will last forever so someday. Just not for a while at least.
imagine the depression of the writers and producers when people told them that their revolutionary forward idea of putting women at the same level with men, with black characters being taken seriously, and plot points involving serious political matters, had already been done DECADES before they were even born.... twice. just IMAGINE the shattering of their entire reality... the crushing of those hopes of liberating light on THESE trying times of 2024, where THEY are "oppressed minorities". I would have payed to see that.
RDM BSG did it right. Recasting the role with the best actor for the part, regardless of skin color or reproductive organs. Yes, Starbuck, but also Adama, Boomer, and Saul mutherfrakkin’ Tigh.
1978 sequel series? Yes please. Bring the old girl out and put her on the big screen again. She still has majesty and would look brilliant. Just don't find earth. Make Boomer - Herbert Jefferson Jr. the Admiral and then have an all new cast surrounding him. Planet/Crisis of the week, weave in a season long mystery, keep the show somewhat lighthearted like the original and Sold! There's a reason why the original was loved, recapture that and Bob's your uncle, great ratings!
Someone just came up with a STTNG idea that would work with a new BSG set it the OG universe. It could be done but the people in charge of the IP have no imagination! They see that the ReBoot worked so they believe that is what the fans want.
The 2003 reboot was depressing, and far too serious about itself...Worse, they gender swapped Starbuck from the original into a woman, not to mention the other male characters suffering the same unforgivable atrocity. Then they executed Richard Hatch's character because he was leading a rebellion against the Galactica. It mirrored his real life efforts to bring the series back, but the reboot saw fit to humiliate him in their twisted story. The original Movie absolutely blows the 2003 reboot out of the water.
It seems longer ago because they dragged out the seasons so long I think. Only '4' seasons but it was almost always on the verge of being canceled. I don't want them to make a new one for a long time if ever, because they'll still woke it up and let's be honest, most streaming shows suck and are canceled real quick.
If Universal needs a family type Battlestar Galactica they should continue the original series with the Battlestar Galactica and the Rag Tag fleet still on a on a lonely quest for earth 🌍 if they went with Richard Hatch’s Second Coming Battlestar Galactica it would of had a huge audience on the heels of Star Wars , “the Phantom Menace” !
Galactica was great because it gave us hope. Staying true to the Original is ALWAYS a winning move. Kathleen Kennedy's biggest mistake with STAR WARS Galaxy's Edge was NOT making it from 1977, but what Disney has done since 2015 sighting that Disney needed to appeal to people in their 30s & 40s and to forget about those of us in our 50s and up. But the truth is that: Nobody wants to see Jakku, but everybody wants to see Tatooine! From Galactica I want to see more of the 12 Colonies, and the Fleet. In Larson's Galactica books a Battlestar was HUGE! About the size of Darth Vader's Command Ship. Adama stated that: "it would take a Hiker years to walk through and see all the decks & rooms on Galactica. The ship we got on TV was Imperial Cruiser size.
I might be mistaken, but "Strange New Worlds" takes place in the Kelvin timeline and is therefore not "original souce material continuity". ;o) - Please correct me if i'm wrong!
Jury's still out on that one, let's just say that Canon is optional, and as far as I'm personally concerned, it's either or, but there are enough continuity flaws that could support the Kelvin Timeline theory
It can't be the Kelvin timeline, because in that timeline Kirk goes straight from the academy to the Enterprise, and in Strange New Worlds Kirk is an officer on another ship. However, the fact that it's not Kelvin doesn't mean it's the prime universe of TOS. Since the sixties we've had Borg going back in time, Romulans changing when the Eugenics Wars happened, and the trifling of countless dubious writers who have made what they consider prime universe something impossible to jibe with TOS.
Kelvin isn't a Timeline it's an Alternate Universe With an Altered Timeline,,, Strange New Worlds, Discovery and Lower Decks exist together in their own Alternate Universe and Picard is an Alternate Universe by itself,,, there has been No New Prime Universe show sense Enterprise and No New Prime Universe movie sense Nemesis
I'm an old man now and loved watching the original release in my teens. When the 2003 reboot arrived (I'll admit) I wasn't happy. Star Buck was now a woman, etc. Move forward and after watching about two seasons of the reboot I truly enjoyed it. All the actors were awesome and I really loved the darker aspect of the story. IMO it truly is a work of of perfection in both filming and story. And yes, I own both collector versions of the show on Blu-ray as well.
The first season of the Reboot is very good with some truly great writing. After that the series took a little turn towards weirdness with (in my opinion) a very poor conclusion.
The way a lot of modern entertainment is trying to cater to a audience that doesn't exist this isn't a bad thing, give it five years or so & perhaps someone with not only talent but a love for the franchise can make something worthy of the legacy & being set in the original universe would be sweet.
I would have loved for them to consider again something akin to Richard Hatch's Second Coming. Based on the original 1970s show. Heck with everyone older (or passed) they just make it a continuation with some of the original actors in senior roles or flashbacks. Or have them go through a time warp or whatever to age the crew. The fact that so many of the OG actors participated in that concept trailer shows they had interest (or at least supported Richard).
@Rob-z7k No, there's still quite a few cast members from the 78 series that are still around besides Dirk. For starters, there's Herbert Jefferson Jr. a.k.a Lieutenant Boomer. He's definitely still around. As a matter of fact, all you have to do to see him is hit up any comic book or sci-fi convention between San Diego and Los Angeles, and chances are Herb will be there signing photos. He's practically a staple at San Diego Comic-Con. The three main actresses are all still around. Laurette Spang (Cassiopea), Maren Jensen (Athena), and Anne Lockhart (Sheba) are still here. Noah Hathway (Boxy) and Ed Begley Jr. (Greenbean) are still around as well.
The comments in the video that it "would appeal to a limited audience" and "the country's mood has changed" makes me think it was too woke. Looks like studio execs are taking notice of what audiences think of newer movies such as the Snow White remake.
@@Klaatu2Too If the studio execs were expecting it to be more like the Star Wars crap then they wanted it more juvenile, campy & snarky-comedic, like the garbage Disney-Marvel pumps out regularly, woke or not woke. Personally, I prefer my sci-fi more adult, serious & dramatic, like Man of Steel for example (or previous BSG remake), & less like the campy-cheesy Guardians of the Galaxy movies (as one example of many). But, that's me & likely in the minority.
Disappointed in this especially after they spent 5 years in development. Refreshing the original 78 concept i think would have been better received than going back to the Dystopia of the reboot. Im surprised one idea hasn't been considered - taking the 78 series but using modern CGI effects like they did with the TOS. I saw a proof of concept video called "The Living Legend Project" here on TH-cam that took a clip from the 2 part episode "The Living Legend" and modernized the special effects. I think that would bridge old and new fans and perhaps spur interest in revising a reboot more in line with the 78 series.
Modernizing the effects for Galactica isn't the problem. The show was a hit, it had its fans and those that loath newness. But something or SOMEONE behind the scenes at Universal has a bug up its tail pipe about $$$omething.
I’m a simple man. I want season two of the original story lol that’s what we all want. Just continue the story (don’t find Earth) keep Pegasus and maybe a few other warships. Man I’d love to see that. I read a lot of BSG fan fiction those types of stories are always fun to read. Keep up the great content. Wonderful channel my man! 🍻
You''d love to see it...if they did it well. They want to make soap operas slash fic and social engineering and have zero desire to make a war movie or realistic survival drama
I eventually concluded the humans in the reboot were so dysfunctional that the Cylons needed have bothered attacking. The humans would have destroyed themselves before long.
There is a comic book where the original series and the reboot meet. It's quite entertaining, actually. For example, Felgercarb in the reboot universe is a brand of toothpaste.
@@battlestarcollectica7106 I take the RDM Reboot over the original any day. Maybe i am just to young to apreciate the superb special effects and space battle scenes of the original. A visual Remaster of the original, with CGI Space Battles would be interesting. But how would you make a sequel to the 2003 Series? They made it to earth. The End.
@Llabenlump Everyone has their own opinion, but I liked the RDM version the best. I don't dislike the original, I have seen most of it because my dad was a fan back in the 70s but the RDM version is my top 5 favorite and IMO rebooting it has a high probability of failure which I don't want to see it tainted. The original is also beloved by so many I feel like a reboot of that or continuation would also be a let down for most fans of the 78 version.
@Brendo2186 I share your opinion 100% I just think you cant make a "family firendly" and "light hearted" TV show about refuges fleeing from genocide. Thats why i like the RDM Version more. I think its a generational thing. I think most people who saw the first Series when it aired will almost always put it above the remake. Oh and lets not forget the female Startbuck. Heresy! 😄And with the RDM which is already old enough to drink, it will likely be the same. I didnt expect myself to be to fond of the reboot. Now i wont find out. Sorry for my english, im not a native speaker.
@Llabenlump no worries, you are spot on. The story is about the few survivors of humanity fleeing genocidal robots after being mostly wiped out. By its nature it's a dark story.
I'm starting to see more and more kids at Comic cons dressing up as the original 1978 Battlestar Galactica series characters and original Star Wars characters from 1977. . . These properties are nearly 50 years old but somehow are making a bigger and bigger impact on the youth today. I think the message is clear. Just give us back our original Battlestar Galactica story and characters! Heck! Do the same for our Star Wars characters while we're at it too!! . . Never seen such out of touch folk as those taking the lead in our entertainment industry!
If I had to guess, I’d say Ron Moore still held a lot of sway with the studio. He wouldn’t want his gritty, mature, “realistic” version of the show overshadowed by one that appealed to a general audience and/or was family friendly.
@@battlestarcollectica7106 I'm with you. I thought Moore's show was good at best, but was not a fan of it. I'd love to see BSG returned to its roots where it's not afraid to be science fiction. I don't mean it should be silly, but it also doesn't have to have NASA/JPL's approval stamped all over it. That's what I disliked most about Moore's version: imagination was sucked dry from it.
I don’t think that’d happen. I imagine RDM wanted it to happen as he likes BSG. I loved the new show as I did like it and it didn’t try to compete with the original and was doing its own thing which was good. Making the show dark puts it in a showdown with the 2000s version. It’d have to be exceptionally good to stand up next to that one. I hope that a new version is as beloved as the originals.❤❤
@@nicholasdickens2801 If it "did its own thing", then why did they rip off the characters from the OG and just gender/race swap them?! If they were truly original the would have come up with whole new characters and respected the old ones.
You know... even at this point they really could go back and pick up the original series as a "Next Gen" type approach. We don't need a third retelling of the fall of the Colonies and their Exodus to find Earth. If you are watching Battlestar Galactica, you probably already know. But picking up a generation into this fleet that is still searching for Earth could be fascinating! (And maybe lure a certain Dirk back to the screen?) Ignore G1980, and that transmission of the Eagle moon landing was a wibbly wobbly spacey thing. I would love to see Battlestar return to the fun, adventure and heroes of the original series style. Updated of course, but let's have some fun again, shall we?
Simply (re)doing the original Battlestar series or adding "new episodes/stories" as closely as possible (like Star Trek Continues did) would be a massive win imo
Any chance of a video on the cancelled-during-production *Singer DeSantos Battlestar Galactica* continuation? It was before B.Singer was exposed, of course! They were building full-size Vipers designed by Guy Hendrix Dyas when the plug was pulled. "Launch When Ready!" 🚀
As much as I have long wanted a continuation of the OG BG... After that terrible "reboot", I have come to the realization that it will never happen and I will have to be content with that movie and following episodes. I am good with that as they are infinitely rewatchable.
The only way to not make a reboot a complete rehash would be to include arriving at Earth, but not in the stupid way 1980 did by leading the Cylons to it. Instead of everyone dropping on Earth's doorstep, the story is that they know how to get there, but try to delay as long as possible discovery by the Cylons. They send one group to leave a trail of misdirection while the rest go to Earth with enough technology to begin uplifting the locals to the point where they can attempt to resist what may come.
Personally, I would like to see a Reboot of another great Science Fiction TV Series. I would like to see a Reboot of Babylon Five Interestinly, I can't seem to find any reruns of Babylon Five anywhere on Cable TV. I think Babylon Five had a very underlying Political Message which was very Radical which the Establishment- the Ruling Elite doesn't like.
@@battlestarcollectica7106 Thank You for your response. HOw long ago did it come out? Was it out on Movie Theaters? Where can I watch it? I watched Babylon 5 in the late 90's I beleive. I think it was a syndicated program. I watched on the Pre-DVR or Tivo Era. I didnt' get Cable till the late 90's. I would watch episodes here and there. I don't remember if I maybe recorded some episodes with my VCR, but if I remember I don't think Broadcast TV worked that well with a VCR. When I went to the TNT network the last either year or 2 or its run, because I didn't have Cable at the time I wasn't able to watch it at all. Even now, I am dissapointed that it doesnt' seem to be anwhere on Standard CAble or on the Prenimus Channesl I get with the bulk Package my building provides- Showtimes, Starz and Starz/enccore I don''t have Netflix or any streaming services right now Do you know where I could watch Babylon 5 for Free or low price? I might try to order the series from my local Library. IBy the way, always thought the series was a Metaphor or allegory for Politics in the US.. With its plot of the World President ( I think it was suppose to be the World President) being assassinated by Psych Corps- I thought that was a Metaphor the CIA assassinating JFK. Anyway, if you can tell me where I might be able to watch the original B5 for free or low price as well as maybe the Animated Movie that would be good.. Thanks!
The problem with BSG is it has the same problem of Gilligan's or Star Trek Voyage. The BSG crew is looking for a new world once that occurs then show ends.
Galactica 80, while HORRIBLY implemented didn't have a broken premise. It can continue. Maybe if the OG Cylons are alien lizards, they could have a BSG & V (Visitors) reboot tied together. I'd be down for that.
From the moment the Peacock project was announced, I didn't understand it. It makes no sense to place the new story within the universe of Ronald D Moore's BSG because that show had a definitive ending. There is nowhere to go with it. BSG is an epic story which can be told and re-told in different ways. My vote would be for something like the original series or even a continuing story from the original series, but with more mature writing and more character-focused story arcs. Like the best elements from 1978 and 2003 combined.
The new series failed, eh? Good! If they aren't going to respect the original/the source material, then it deserves to die in the planning stages! If universal ever comes to their senses(and I'm not holding my breath waiting for that!), they'd be wise to continue the original while they can. After all, the remaining cast isn't getting any younger!
I'm glad that another "reimagined" show, that spits in the faces of the original fans, didn't get the greenlight this time. Mandolorian is no longer a financial success. Strange New World's NEVER has been.
Right now the only successful SW that Disney has going for is the Mandelorian. I recently visited Galaxy’s Edge for the very first time. Even that SW is pretty bad (and half empty because of it!).
No more BATTLE-💲E❌ RA🅿️E-TACULAR! Why can't they get this right?! It's obvious! Just continue the 1978 series instead! Have you seen all the Easter Eggs in *Ready Player One* yet? "Launch When Ready!" 🚀
I suggest they get their act together. There is nothing on tv worth anyone’s time to watch and it’s only getting worse. Writers can’t right, producers can’t manage and networks have their heads up their ass.
It will be very hard to replicate the feel of the old series, if there's no Starbuck, Apollo, Boomer, Adama or General Tigh, Boxy the robot dog on the side of the heroes and for the villains the original Cylon robots led by Boltar, its just not Battlestar Galactica. If its got to be updated and woke they could at least have the main characters with the same personalities of the original series and keep things simple with just two genders instead of weighing it down with all the equal rights for all types bullshit.
@battlestarcollectica7106 Yes, I always liked the STTNG cast and situations the crew got themselves into, if this was in the OG universe it would be nice if they could retro it with a late 1970's styled wardrobe and hairstyles for the cast, this would be such a thank you letter to what the OG fans remember it to be. The long, ragged, wild looking hairstyles, the suede jackets and boots and also retro styled computer systems/flight decks and avionics controls for the fighter jets are essential to have the feel of the OG universe too. I just hope they get a producer/director who grew up in the 1970's because they'd know exactly how it's meant to be done, from watching the OG series as a child and replicating something special onscreen for future generations to enjoy. A great blast from the past.
I loved both the original (at first) and the Reboot. *Somehow Ronald D. Moore and the others were able to successfully connect the 2 even as very, very different as they were. Any attempts to start anew will have to atleast equal both in their respective areas they did well at; that's a very High Bar. Give Ronald D. Moore a blank check and creative freedom and I'm sure it would make that, but as we have all seen with Hollywood's ***** in the last 10-15 years, the studios don't want a great show for people to watch and enjoy, they want something cheap that rides on a great shows laurels then blame everybody when its a flop.
Strange New Worlds is not in the OG continuity, it is in an alternative continuity. It was part of STD which is now de-canonized (thank god) which means SNW is now also de-canonized.
I agree & found this online by a simple Google search. Some will disagree, but those who like the new crap will get angry. It's certainly not Star Trek in the least other than name & character re-use. Just like the Kelvin timeline. The only real Star Trek was from 1966-2005. "According to recent reports, "Star Trek: Discovery" has been officially declared non-canon, meaning it is no longer considered part of the main Star Trek timeline, with the final episode of "Star Trek: Lower Decks" confirming that it takes place in an alternate universe separate from the prime timeline; effectively "erasing" it from the canon. Key points about this "discanonization": Reason for removal: Many fans and critics felt "Discovery" deviated too much from the established Star Trek universe. Confirmation source: The final episode of "Lower Decks" is cited as the definitive source confirming "Discovery" as non-canon. Impact: This means that the events and characters from "Discovery" are now considered to be from a separate alternate timeline."
@@sandman_says_runrunner4701 Lower Decks, Prodigy, Strange New Worlds, Picard, Section 31 and Starfleet Academy would all not exist without Discovery. Maybe go outside and touch grass?
Heres some additional ideas for a new classic 'Battlestar Galactica,' re-activation. Katee Sackoff could be in the new series as Starbuck and Cassiopeia 's oldest daughter on the series... as a Viper Pilot, as a mother--with Starbuck and Cassiopeia's grandkids. Katee could change her look to adapt to the new 'Battlestar' series by letting her hair grow out but retaining her other Starbuck characteristics. Tricia Helfer could be a new 'Basestar,' commander whose eyes turn to Red when she is in their Basestar commander position and whose eyecolor is of a different color depending on the position she is in at the time. She can actually go on 'away,' missions when she needs, or wants to. Grace Park can be Boomer (Herbert Jefferson Jr.), adopted daughter who was trained by Boomer, Apollo, Sheba, and Starbuck. You could also have a new female Triad game for the female pilots in a traditional role as wearing more 'Cheesecake,' uniforms to compete / compare with the 'Beefcake,' versions the male players wore and wear in updated fashion designs. The actresses and actors from the 're-imagined,' two-thousand' series would fit in really well.
So this makes what??? 3 times failing since 2019 to fire up an original series-type reboot??? They should go back to the Pegasus story they originally were going to try. That way if they eff it up it won't really hurt the actual BSG original canon. There is at least 9 hours worth of storylines out there already written they could at least use as a template. I think maybe Universal needs to lease the rights out to someone else and let them have a shot at making something. The Pegasus storyline would be great if it did succeed they would still hold the rights to the Galactica story they could revive after 4 or so years of a Pegasus storyline working as was done with Deep Space 9 and Voyager or Discovery and Strange New Worlds. Universal could still control the rights to the Cylon attack on the Colony worlds with the Pegasus show only allowed enough latitude with it to start their storyline off.
Great video first of all. Second, I hope they don't try to bring back BSG for one reason you brought up, they would want to make it like Mandalorian. Season 2 and 3 of Mando was very divisive in the sense that it was used to push political/social messages to the audience. Star Wars was not perceived by the audience to be that which is why so many are disappointed with the franchise. The age of using sci-fi for a platform has to die out as people don't want that anymore. Mainly because we are in the 21st century and we are no closer to that fabled utopia than predicted. Many fans just want an adventure that has growth, structure and continuity so we can invest our time and money to follow. They can either sell a story or tell a story. They always pick to sell a story which is where we see our beloved stories get destroyed through "politics". The best idea for a BSG reboot was the one Richard Hatch attached himself to. It is unfortunate that NBC said no and he passed away. The days for BSG are behind us moreso than in front of us. SIGH....
It was a great idea that could have worked but the studio was still is clueless! The problem with the current Universal is that they are very risk adverse. That is why they now rely on horrible tent pole sequels so much. It’s very sad!
I feel your sentiment. I double your SIGH. I remember the whole household sitting in front of Galactica (78) for the family-friendly, adventurous escapism. I don't know who would be capable in making something like that these days. Given how much more extreme the social/political influence is now (even beyond the time of the re-imagined series), maybe it's better they don't do it.
I think you're spot on. 03 BSG certainly had themes that related to what was going on at the time, but it wasn't any kind of platform either. It was a good balance, a great story and character development and very realistic. I think maybe wait until next decade when all the 2020s crazy has hopefully faded to try again.
I'll go on record to say I love both versions of the series (As long as the Galactica 1980 is thrown out). Each spoke to the audience of their time. At the time of 2003's start I compared it to how Gundam has its UC and AU timelines. I'm disappointed, because a big part of the reason I got Peacock when it started up was because of this prospective series. Fortunately, it turned out to be a useful streamer to have, but it's disappointing to see that a new Battlestar Galactica of any kind isn't coming anytime soon.
They should go back to the original ideas for BSG and bring that to the screen. Make it look more like an ancient human civilization and less USA in space, weaving-in ancient mythologies. Visually it should look ancient, futuristic and even alien in some ways - but the characters and their humanity, the very thing they are trying to preserve is what should make it relatable. They could do something for the whole family, sure with some darker undertones - it is about the extermination of the human race after all. Why not bring back Boxey and Muffit on one hand, and the Imperious Leader, Baltaar and Lucifer on the other? Whoever does it will need to spend a decent money on it to do it right, a low budget rehash of the reboot isn't worth anyone's time.
Just use the original designs there's nothing wrong with any of them. It was they didn't take the story of an entire civilization of 13 worlds plus hundreds of others seriously.
Dark and gritty won't work. They already did that with the 2003 series. If they did it again then everyone would be comparing this new series to that one. Plus, why do the same thing twice. I'm sick of dark and gritty anyway.
@@aerohard You could make it a comedy. Apollo was about to meet his mother-in-law but then the Cylons destroy everything including her; Apollo is happy that he doesn't have to see her. The kid has a major test at school that he didn't study for. The Cylons destroy his school and he doesn't have to do the test anymore. Half the crew is happy because of obligations they escaped, and the other half is sad. The happy crew must tip-toe around the sad crew.
@@battlestarcollectica7106 Could also tell the story in reverse..an advanced civilization on Earth comes under siege by a new form of Cylon(alien,not man-made),and a expedition fleet led by a new model of the Galactica sets out to find"The Lost Colonies of Caprica"..
Sorry, I'm old enough to have watched the original BSG when it aired. It was essentially quick cash grab to cash in on the popularity of Star Wars. It was campy, shallow cotton candy with cardboard characters and lasted all of 1 season. The Reboot in comparison was more "real", and dealt with themes that we in the US were struggling with at the time.
Same. Even as a kid I thought the original was campy and cheesy. (some episodes more than others) Yeah let's make a family friendly show about the genocide of humanity. As you said, it failed miserably. People get blinded by childhood nostalgia. Sometimes first isn't best. BSG is a prime example.
The original series was pretty dark for 1978. Many people tuned in and expected Star Wars but instead got something much different. Still amazes me that it even got green lit!
1978 BSG was a big part of my childhood. There was a long time between Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back. BSG and Buck Rogers were the right shows at the right time. Many episodes have aged well all these years later. The BSG reboot was TOO DARK, and was at least a season too long. With the passing of several OG BSG cast members in the intervening years, we’ll never get the proper reunion show OG BSG deserved. But a fresh reboot NOT based on Ron Moore’s show WOULD succeed if they ever get it off the ground. What do they need? Good writing, good casting, and a TOY/MERCH line!!!!
Probably for the better, chances are they'd have screwed it up. Let's be honest: we got lucky in 2003 and now we have 2 good BSG versions to watch. I don't wager much they would be able to do it a third time.
I grew up with the original series and would like to see a reboot of that. The incarnation from 2003 was nice too but the protagonists were to much depressed. In reality these people would not have survived for five minutes.
Even if they avoid the G80 route completey, I hope any continuation of the original would also include Boxey & Dillon. Maybe an alternate version of Jamie too!
I had no idea a new Battlestar was coming our way. I was a kid when the original aired and loved how they fled their planet to survive from being wiped out of existence from the cool looking bad ass one Lazer eye silver robot Cylons. There was infighting between the humans as they searched for the last colony of the planet Earth which they had no idea if Earth was even real or not and that was a great story arc twist. Fantasy heroes wondering if we were real!! The newer series had the same storyline and then the short prequels gave us the creation of the Cylons. We even got human looking Cylons were some of them didn't even know they were Cylons. As a fan, I'm not interested in a reboot. I guess the only storyline I'd care about is something new where the Cylons are attacking Earth and maybe we team up with members from the Galactica to fight them or Galactica grabs Earth survivors and flees again.
Big fan of the original BSG and it is overall my favorite version. Galactica 1980 not so much, but the Ron Moore reboot was Very Good and I enjoyed it immensely. Solid story and effects.
Your assessment of what Universal Studios SHOULD DO to revive Battlestar Galactica as a truly valid, family friendly and highly lucrative franchise property is absolutely correct and totally right on the money! Well said. In fact, I don't think I could have stated it any better. But please allow me to at least take a stab at it, if I may. But fair warning; what follows is definitely a lot longer than the overly simplistic one liners that most people are used to seeing on the Internet, so if you'd rather not read on, then by all means, don't even bother. It's surely no sweat off my nose if you don't. That said, like millions of other kids, I was totally head over heels in love with the original series, and still am to this very day. Come to think of it, I might even love Glen A. Larson's often much too easily and wrongfully dismissed sci-fi TV extravaganza even more than Star Wars; that increasingly bloated and now sadly totally off course Disney mis-owned cash cow that was supposedly a "ripoff" of the aforementioned rival space opera set "a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away." And although I think that Ronald D. Moore and company are extremely adept creatives in their own right, I did NOT enjoy what they unfortunately did to the legacy of classic original BSG. Sure, I watched every single episode of the "re-imagined" series, and some parts of it were arguably somewhat "better," or certainly more "modern," than the original show, but overall, in my humble opinion, the 2003-09 series was nowhere near the extremely high caliber of classic original Battlestar Galactica. Thus, I have long thought that the show does NOT in fact need to be "rebooted." It does NOT need to be made into a needlessly graphic, so-called "gritty," and often even rather low-class, pornified low-budget looking mockery of the original series. Hockey helmets?! Seriously? They actually used commercially available hockey helmets in the re-imagined series? Yes they darn well did! And they even used WOOD FIBER PEG BOARD (painted battleship gray) to dress many of the interior sets of their often just plain ugly "re-imagining" of the original series. Worse still, there was even a scene in one of the "re-imagined" post-series TV movies which showed a woman with bare breasts in a bar sequence. Okay, sure, most of us men (and even plenty of women) love to ogle actors in various states of undress, but honestly, was that even necessary? In fact, like most Hollyweird nude and full-blown sex scenes these strange days indeed, it was totally unnecessary and did not enhance the plot in any appreciably pertinent way whatsoever. But then, that post-series add-on was directed by THE Edward James Olmos himself, whom, sure, I loved when he played Gaff in Blade Runner (1982), but the REAL Commander Adama (aka Lorne Greene) is NOT, and NEVER will be, a hot-tempered psycho who could literally beat a "skin job" Cylon to death, as depicted in the 2003 pilot for the series. Whether the actor playing Adama happens to be wearing blue contact lenses or not! I could go on forever, but in the interests of cutting this short, I'll just summarize by saying that what the Battlestar Galactica franchise DOES need, and what Universal Studios will eventually do (IF, that is, if the people now running the studio are even one iota smarter than the idiots who foolishly cancelled the original series back in 1979) is to return to the look, feel, and overall flavor of the original series. Period. Full stop. End of story. In other words, even if all of the characters have to be recast because they're now "too old" to fit the parts they once played, any new production should absolutely take up where the original series left off. In fact, Dirk Benedict, Herbert Jefferson Jr., and Anne Lockhart could all still be cast as other, though admittedly now probably minor, characters. Heck! Even Jane Seymour is still one exceptionally fine looking lady, and I always thought that Gregory Peck would have made an outstanding Commander Adama. And sorry (not sorry) wokies, NO RACE OR GENDER SWAPPING! For example, Colonel Tigh and Lt. Boomer should still be portrayed by dashing, handsome black MEN (like Terry Carter and Herb Jefferson Jr.), and if you wanna toss in more Asians than were typically seen in the original, then fine, go ahead. Knock your revisionist socks off, I guess. But, psst! Richard Hatch actually played Native Indian or Hawaiian (and other more or less Asian looking) parts before being cast in Battlestar Galactica. And okay, Lorne Greene was Canadian, but he was also Jewish (so he sometimes went by the name "Chaim"), and like Leonard Nimoy (who often played Indians or even a Yuan Dynasty Chinese official in one particular case), many people of Eastern European/Asiatic origin can not only pass for Caucasians, but they can sometimes look downright Far Eastern as well. Uh... do a Google image search for Ezra Miller. Go ahead. I'll wait. And uh... I think we can safely say that Athena (Maren Jensen) is at least half Asian (if not full) something or other. Unlike Grace Park, who is full Korean-Canadian-American (or whatever!), and most importantly, the lovely Ms. Jensen did not look entirely out of place playing Apollo's sister/Adama's daughter. So yes, that means that they should either totally ignore almost everything that transpired in Galactica 1980 (a show that even Glen Larson sincerely regretted doing, with the exception of The Return of Starbuck, of course) AND that needlessly graphic, seedy "re-imagined" trainwreck (that I fully acknowledge many fans still honor and adore, and hey, more power to 'em!), but if the folks at Universal Studios have any sense at all, they will indeed return to all of the original series designs, including the classic ships, the ancient Egyptian inspired flight helmets, the Jean-Pierre Dorléac designed uniforms, etc. Of course they would need to update and otherwise tweak various things here and there, such as the fact that special effects have come a very, very long way since 1978. If nothing else they could very easily upgrade the look of the standard model Cylon Centurion. You know, so that they no longer clumsily stumble around because they're really just out of work basketball players who can't see well through the narrow eye holes in those gleaming, otherwise gorgeous original series helmets! Do you copy that, Universal Studios? Because in fact, you've STILL got a HUGELY popular and potentially extremely lucrative sci-fi property on your hands. And I think you darned well know it too. So whatever you do, DON'T let revisionist entertainment history hacks like David Eick (Ick!) and Ronald D. Moore get their exploitive R-rated hands on our beloved classic ever again. Okay! if the "re-imagined" fans are so hot and eager for gratuitous boob shots and cheesy, cheap-looking, non-properly Galactica authentic costumes, then by all means, keep watching your DVD sets ad infinitum. Because seriously, Ron Moore really is an extremely talented writer and producer, having done wonders when he worked on Star Trek for Paramount. But let's face it, "The tree is known by its fruit." And the fruit that Moore seems to prefer to grow these days is packed full of boob shots and needlessly prolonged sex scenes in shows like... oh... OUTLANDER! Okay, I'm of Scottish-Irish lineage myself, so I enjoy watching that show every now and then, but... to be quite honest, Claire (Caitríona Balfe) reminds me way, way too much of my own dear Scots-Irish American mother. So, honestly, I really don't want OR NEED to be forced to see such a lovely, talented young actress butt-naked, shamelessly pretending to copulate for what seems like a full HALF of some episodes. Crikey! Even the shape of her pale Irish wrists and hands remind me of me dear old mum. So PLEASE, for Crike's sake, Ron Moore and company! Could you maybe offer a more family friendly version of Outlander (or whichever historical epic set in the British Isles)? Okay, admittedly, my mother had six kids, so I'm quite sure that she had to "get busy" at least that many times herself, but... come on, all you shamelessly debauched Hollyweirdos, enough already! You wanna make softcore pornos, go right ahead. There is definitely a SEPARATE market for that kind of thing, but PLEASE stop trying to cram that kind of gratuitous content down everyone's throats all the time. You know, just because, in our increasingly debauched western "free world," you can actually get away with it. Just a thought. :)
You make some very good points! The problem is Hollywood is creatively bankrupt. It’s easier to add garbage to a tv/film to distract from bad writing or plotting. Unfortunately it works all too well so they will continue to do it.
@@battlestarcollectica7106 Thank you very much. As a diehard classic original Galactica fan, I seriously enjoy your channel, and I save every single one of your video releases to my "sci-fi - Battlestar Galactica" TH-cam list (which may currently be set to "private," I'm not even sure, I'll have to check). At any rate, I apologize for writing such a long comment, but as far as I'm concerned, it had to be done to actually appropriately define the sheer, sadly frustrating length and breadth of the problem that all of us classic BSG fans have been vexed by since... oh, at least way back in 1979, 80, or thereabouts. Because unlike Star Trek:TOS, which luckily got to run for at least a full three seasons, Universal Studios and the ABC Network quite simply pulled the plug/the proverbial rug, out from under Galactica much, much too quickly. Even worse, they were also ultimately responsible for pretty much ALL of the series' admitted shortcomings right from the very start - in that Glen Larson and company needed an addition year (at the very least) to more fully develop and plan the show, but sadly, all the usual money people (who typically know BIG FAT ZERO SQUAT about actually being creative) were so eager to capitalize on the unexpected mega-success of Star Wars, that they pushed (nay, HOUNDED) the producers, writers, SPFX team behind the scenes, the cast, and the crew, etc, etc. of classic BSG to prematurely rush the show into production. Now, as far as recasting all the original characters (with the proviso that most, if not all of them, should actually look and behave more or less like the people who originally portrayed them), that, for me, has long been a very tough conclusion to come to. But I finally only arrived at it because I honestly think that fan generated shows like "Star Trek: New Voyages/Phase II" and "Star Trek: Continues" have clearly illustrated in recent years how a classic sci-fi series really should be resurrected. In fact, it would have been infinitely preferable if Richard Hatch had lived long enough to play Adama, with a younger actor who strongly resembles him cast as Apollo, but alas, sadly, that particular ship has now well and truly set sail. May God rest his soul. At any rate, Starbuck was (and always will be) an incredibly awesome BSG character - played to absolute perfection by Dirk Benedict, no less - but Apollo has always been my personal favorite. But then Boomer has also always been a very close second for me, because I don't know about anyone else, but Herb Jefferson Jr. really did an outstanding job with a secondary (or even tertiary) role that he often didn't even get all that much screen time to play. As a result, I have always thought that, from a hypothetical second season onward, the show could have matured to where the three hottest pilots (Apollo, Starbuck, and Boomer) would be much more central to each week's storyline - instead of the unnecessary (but sometimes very interesting) rivalry between polar opposites (but also close friends for that very same reason), Captain Apollo and Lt. Starbuck. But come to think of it, I guess that actually did happen anyway, but with the Apollo, Starbuck, and Sheba triumvirate. Hmm. Granted, Star Trek: New Voyages/Phase II has long been notorious for the casting of often amateur actors to reprise the roles played by legendary, high caliber professionals such as Shatner and Nimoy, but that doesn't mean that a classic BSG revival project would have to hire "bad" (or more appropriately, mostly inexperienced) actors. Trust me; put out an authentic, potentially high paying casting call, and I guarantee you that literally thousands of actors, young and old, who could genuinely look and act the respective parts of all the various classic BSG characters would come calling ("with bells on"), just for the chance to actually WORK. Goodness knows, some incredibly talented and/or extremely good looking people never even manage to make it in Tinseltown simply because of... well, all sorts of personal reasons, usually known only to the actors themselves and the relatively small number of all too fallible folks commonly tasked with hastily casting all "the right people" for a given project. Lastly... gosh, I guess I've done it again, haven't I? But I am quite sure that I have not, in fact, "digressed." Because, as with my initial comment above, the final and omnipresent point is that a beloved sci-fi extravaganza like Battlestar Galactica must be carefully planned and appropriately executed, and a "reboot" is NOT at all necessary. In fact, I guess, if you really think about it, I'm actually arguing for what might be called a "soft reboot." Because really, all the term actually truly means is to restart your computer, and thereby get right back to what you were doing in the first place! It does NOT mean that a given classic TV series or movie franchise has to be "re-imagined" or turned into something that it was clearly never meant to be in the first place. All that said, I 100% agree that "Hollywood is creatively bankrupt." And much is the pity indeed.
The 2004 Galactica series was amazing. I was hoping they would not turn Starbuck into an androgynous, trans, every color of the rainbow, non binary, and Apollo a girl boss or effeminate weaker beta male.
Battlestar Galactica has always led a "checkered" existence. If Glen Larson had had his way, ABC would have produced an ongoing series of made-for-tv BSG movies with decent budgets and attentive scripts. We know the network's response to that. The series still enjoyed a strong following but the budget killed it in the end. However, based upon what I heard from a source in Glen Larson's office years ago, a potential second season of BSG would have been more disastrous than fans could imagine.
Years ago, I heard rumors of a new remake. I didn't even know it was on Peacock. These subscription channels seem good but will fail in the long run. You have to create hits *all the time* to convince people to pay for yet another subscription. It is too expensive to chase shows that seem appealing. I doubt it had anything to do with the show itself. It needed more marketing, which most of us skip past, and more of a reason to pay for Peacock.
BSG is a story that has been told. Star Wars, Star Trek,Terminator, I'm so sick of Hollywood just re-writing old ideas. Let these old franchises die. Give us something original
Hey fellow BSG TH-camr! I'm not sure that millions have been spent on the development of this new series, because Sam Esmail only mentioned that he read a great outline (which is not even a full script) in October 2023, and the latest known showrunner, Derek Simonds, was announced just a year ago. Has a pilot episode been directed between this and last summer when we learned that the show was cancelled? It is not impossible, but however highly improbable. But apart from this, I agree with you and I find interesting that the network wanted a family show when Sam Esmail repeated numerous times that his series would happen in the same universe than Ron Moore's show. If this is the case, the network definitely did not understand the franchise the wanted a new series from. But I must admit that I never thought of a new series that was a continuation of the original show (this was dead to me since the failure of the BSG The Second Coming attempt), and I must say that this would actually be a very good idea. I'm a huge fan of the reboot, but I also love the original and I speak of both shows in my French podcast. A new series that would be the continuation of the original series would be great, because this one never had a proper ending, and this would avoid the risk of any retcon of the reboot.
From what I’ve been told Universal spent tons of money on this project over 5 years. Many of the people involved have pay and play deals (get paid regardless of what happens). Universal does not care as it’s all a tax write off.
I loved the 78 BSG as a kid and I loved the reboot as an adult. However, it is the original 78 version that I keep on putting into my player. Not because the original show is better, but because it is more episodic in nature. Its easier to tune in and lose yourself for an hour, vs. the new show which is more of a continuing story. Strange New Worlds understood this when they went back to a more episodic format over Picard. But I do think that the new show was better. The shows tagline "All this has happened before and all this will happen again" is true, that pretty much everything that happened in the original show, happened in the new show. But it was presented in a more realistic fashion.
I agree the reboot was too dark. The original was dark too, but Adama brought light and hope in the midst of tragedy. While I'd like to see something based on the original it would be hard as we don't have many original cast still alive and while the mood of the country is changing it may take a couple of years before they are truly ready for this or for a new SG-1. I could be wrong. Also there is a danger of going in the direction of Picard- saying things just because they can not that it fits into their universe.
I agree with you. I do think that there is a way to produce something new and imaginative within the BSG universe without redoing something that came before.
It's one of the cool comments by a fan in the comments section below. He / she says,'we don't want a 'Battlestar Galactica,' that is 'Approved by NASA,' and he's got it! We want a show like the original Glen A. Larson production, with actual models used to enhance the visual effects by the modern day computers. The dogfights in space should be like the original series just enhanced, but better--when things go by to fast on screen its just hurts the atmosphere and even the grace and beauty of the shots / angles used in the scene. The Cylons in future series should make slight advancements of their own. Perhaps a third engine design which is used as a 'turbo boost,' to catch up to the Vipers in combat, or they instal a 'turbo boost,' on the two engines they elready have to keep up with the colonial Vipers which causes the 'Galactican,' fleet to make newer, more advanced Vipers to regain their advantage against the Cylon Raiders. Maybe adding a fourth engine, or a fifth for the extra speed. These newer engines could be even more adaptive to space and oxygen atmospheres. They also need to explain how the cockpits hold on to the rest of the Viper in flight. (Herbert Jeffersen Jr.'s question I believe.) On another note , why wasn't ''Universal,' prepared with two versions of 'Battlestar Galactica,' one 'Classic,' and the other 'reimagined,' version so the could cover all their Basestars (So to speak). Lack of planning, or lack of vision? Would Dirk Benedict or Anne Lockhart or any of the original actors / actresses really ask for that much...? One of the aspects I did not like in the 'novels,' was that Starbuck and Cassiopeia,' never got married and hade a couple of kids to have links to the classic series... Athena and Greenbean getting married and having kids would make for Adamas descendents to be on / in the new series to re-establish links to the new series, and basically rectifiy a wrong done to Maren Jensen.
There are many at Universal who are actually embarrassed by the OG series. They feel it’s too childish (I guess they have never seen Star Wars). They believe that the only way to go is with a Reboot of the Reboot.
ST:ToS canon carried over to TNG and every other series prior to the movie reboot. I don't imagine many people want a continuation of the original BSG when there are probably more people who recall the 2003 series. The two most common reasons people would give me for not watching the 2003 series? The first was "I liked the original and don't need to see a reboot of it" and the second was "I didn't like the original and don't need to see a reboot of it."
Does anyone other than the access media actually care about the 2003 series? I've heard it never got the best ratings when it was on and even today most merchandise that comes out is of the 70s version.
Never got the best ratings? I understand that the re-imagined version isn't everyone's cup of tea, but it helped the Sy-Fi channel immensely with its high ratings. The Caprica prequel series on the other hand......
@@michealcormier2555 It's tough when you create a new vision and then give it a crappy ending for any other shows in that realm to be successful especially prequels. How long did Blood and Chrome last??? Wasn't it supposed to be a webisode for a future pilot show of a new series??? Ron Moore killed the opportunity for really any other form of the remake to exist and thrive. Ron Moore was the Cylon Imperious Leader who killed off ALL of the humans and thus any further storylines for spin-offs and prequels thus ending his BSG World, forever. LOL.
FWIW I absolutely LOVE the 2003 series and I think it blows away the original series in just about every way, and I'm in my mid 60's and watched the original series when it first aired. The original started out pretty great but gradually then rapidly went down hill I'm assuming to budget restrictions (constantly reusing the same special effects shots over and over) and weak writing that didn't compensate. I remember back in the day completely loosing interest on an episode where in the first scene a reused shot of a Cylon ship crashing into the Battlestar traps some people in storage room and there was a fire on the other side, and the entire rest of the show was them there the room waiting to be rescued etc. 🤦♂I wanted to watch an interesting sci-fi show that intrigued/surprised me and sparked my imagination, not a pedestrian low budget disaster show about every day situations that could happen in any era. 🤷♂ The high budget, well written, and well acted 2003 series did that for me! 👌🥰👍
Galactica 1980 finished it off ……or maybe make Galactica 2025 and have the Galactica still observing Earth and able to disguise itself from detection in space
….and able to defend the Sol -Earth planet from invaders yet have the Galactica have a ‘Prime directive ‘ like non-interference policy in Earths internal affairs yet realize the time is coming when Earth will be ready to make contact. Galactica citizens slowly visit and blend in to different nations and societies.
Based only on what you've said in this video, it seems like the studio had the right idea, and that puling the plug on this version before it aired was a smart decision.
Universal Studios next move on Battlestar Galactica should be to walk away and develop something new, as in something original. Not another reboot. Two masterpieces were done. No need to revisit.
Strange New Worlds doesn't take place in the original continuity. It takes place in a continuity that starts with Star. Trek Discovery and rendered an alternate continuity by the very last episode of Star Trek Lower Decks!
This is kinda true and not true. Has'nt been outright confirmed by Paramount yet that Discovery is an alternate universe only that the Klingons from Discovery do exist in an alternate timeline. I despise Discovery more than most, but there are plenty of ways that the Discovery Klingons could still unfortunately be cannon. I have also heard that SNW is still canon from the same sources that say Discovey is retconned so.....until Paramount outright confirms, It's still unfortunately cannon.
An animated version could be the answer to the call for fans and not a total reboot in general, but a final session of the original set alongside the last journey to Earth in the year 2039, or the 26 century. Not connected to that other series in the 80s, so much, but there's a villain from that turns with a connection to Starbuck. Additionally, there's an intriguing plot with two Starbuks. The old episode where a commander is supposed to be Starbucks' father we never real knows if he died in this story, and so an alternative timeline story could become an option. Starbucks could be intriguingly possible series, a stand-alone series telling the true fate of Starbucks' final years or something completely different in his adventures through the universe towards his destiny and possibly finding his way to a shining Earthly destination. Or revealing both modern and old are part of something of Starbucks legacies from a different perspective, revealing he was a Cylon humanoid? Starbucks Shadows, the myth of the pilot of the fleet, the original series had him as a joking and friendly wise guy, but his character was a deep hearted hero, someone trusted and someone reliable. But his life story and past had so many secrets. It would be to develop a backstory in his early childhood story, still hiding a few things, but a huge secret of who he really was related to. And he has a twin sister who vanished when they were young. She turns up in an alternative reality? Only a theory..
I agree that it would have been a mistake to try doing the dark 2003 bsg thing again. It already exists and there's no way that they could do better than what was already done. Going with the more space-fantasy style would have been better. People want escape right now, life right now for most people is already "dark and gritty"
@@battlestarcollectica7106 exactly. I totally revere the 2003 BSG even with it's flaws as one of the all time greats but that's because it was OF ITS TIME and it said what it wanted to say for the sociopolitical climate of the 2000s. Now its two decades later and the context is different and it's time for something else tonally
The thing I can't get by, in regard to the re-imagined series, that weakened the overall story SO much, was that suddenly the Cylons were created by man. That was some pretty unimaginative reimagining -- that old, warn out concept of 'building robots that take us over'. It was present at least as far back as 1950's sci-fi radio. What makes the original Galactica impactful is that Cylons are emotionless, robot-building, reptilian aliens that can take what we have and send us scrambling like mice. You might say that 'that concept' has ALSO been around forever and you would be right. But 'WE' as our own enemy is just not nearly as scary as a more advanced, emotionless alien species, bent on wiping us out like they are exterminating roaches.
@@Halbared Ahhh...I forgot about the Cylon robots turning against their reptilian makers. Thanks for the reminder. The reboot made humans the makers of the robots, right? I still think advance alien tech is more scary than our own. And Cylons looking like us is just not as fun.
@@GooeyGluey Yes the reboot did that. As a kid I always wanted the reptiles to turn up, that might be a good plot point. The Imperious leader used to confuse me too, I thought it was a giant organic brain or summat. I did check and apparently the original idea was for the cylons to be reptiles but killing creatures made the telly channel queasy. I still have my original BSG annual.
Great points! I also didn't like the "human" Cylons, the gender swapping (especially of my two favorite characters), or the vipers firing bullets! There was more I didn't like that added to the reason I only got 3 episodes into the series but you get the idea.
@@battlestarcollectica7106 I'd be onboard with a 'classic' example of the show, with the same uniforms, etc. I think that would be awesome. Who knows, maybe they'll pull it off.
I have a suggestion if anyone wants to pass it along, maybe they branch out into audio plays, it worked for Doctor Who, Big Finish kept the flame alive between the 1996 Paul McGann movie and the New Series, or they could license it out to a novel series akin to Richard Hatch's novels of the late 90s early 2000s (ok, so that was more than 1 suggestion)
Richard Hatch tried but could not obtain the rights. After his passing it was created without mentioning BSG or any of the shows names. I did an episode on it a few months ago. Please check it out!
I couldn't get into the reboot from 2003. In fact ill go on record as saying i hated it. It took a late 70s space opera and changed it to an early 2000s soap opera. Costume design was off the rack from K-Mart and the cylons being created by humans and looking just like humans just came off as lazy! Instead of humanity bonding together to escape an external threat to their existence it became humanity's distrust of each other and being destroyed from within. Maybe if it didn't use the name of Battlestar Galactica and created their own thing (since it only bears a passing resemblance to Battlestar Galactica) then maybe i wouldn't have hated it so much.
the way that bsg ended the franchise makes it impossible to reboot, they kind of really done a number on it the last season with Tye and cheif and anders being cylons and having anders being the jump computer, that just really left a bad taste in most of our mouths. Not sure how you go about rebooting something that was shot in the head.
@@battlestarcollectica7106 I like it until the last season, when the find the last cylon models and things got strange and stayed strange and I never figure out what starbuck was, was she cylon or something else
I wonder what the premise was. Although there were a variety of different projects in development at different times, they pretty consistently said that this would fit in the timeline of the RDM series somehow, and would not be a reboot, more like a revival or a side story or whatever. I do know the cast of the RDM show were pretty universally opposed to this. Still my only interest in the show has been what it would be about. I wasn’t really interested in watching it, I just really wanted to know what story of they thought was worth telling.
I’m going to reserve my thoughts until a script is leaked (you know that will be coming). From what I’ve been told it’s just a remake of the 2003 series.
I'm a huge fan of the original and the reboot both. I have to say, it sounds as though execs made the right call. A rarity. I don't want the Partridge Family in Space, but we could go with a little less grit and a little more escapism. Hopefully they restart the project from scratch and avoid silly extremes.
Whatever happens do not let disney get hold of it They have destroyed starwars and doctor who
Don’t forget Willow and Indiana Jones!!
How have they destroyed Doctor Who? By taking it away from Chris Chibnell who completely flattened it?
You mean Doctor Whoke?
@@dangale123 NQ by letting disney get threre hands on it
@@dangale123Are you serious? The 2024 Christmas Special about a fat neurotic woman becoming the Star of Bethlehem was a DISASTER! And Moffat wrote it!!
I'll take Glenn Larson's 78 BSG any day. There was political infighting and disagreements, but humanity basically came together.
Here here! Same here...
A new show within the OG continuity would work! Nostalgia is so strong right now for the OG series that I can’t believe Universal can be this clueless!
Yup. The only thing bad about BSG 78 was Larson himself. Funny that.
Only problem with an orginal BSG reboot is most of the orginal cast are dead , and recasting all those roles with new actors destroys the concept of being the Orginal series, think Dirk Benedict is the only orginal left and he is in or nearly in his 70s so you would have Commander Starbuck as captain of the Galatica, with new faces being new crew the children that grew up in space. Guess Boxy could be the new space rogue ( like Starbuck used to be) Which reminds me you have to state that Galactica 1980 never happened.
Edit looked up Dirk B. He is 79yrs old now 2025, doing a new tv series might be too hard on him . So you would have a reboot without a single returning cast member, that wont pass as the Orginal BSG reboot it would just be a new version more in the orginal mood.
@@lonknight3197not necessarily, what if we had a different ship? This whole thing could be tangential but keeping the look and feel and updating only a small part of the visual effects, everything else the same. Of course had it been for "modern audiences" it could have been far worse than Galactica 1980 at it's lowest (I kind of enjoy some parts of it, but man those scouts are just awful)
i had no clue that was going to be a thing. maybe it's for the better, since i don't trust modern anything.
I know as most anything “new” today turns out pretty bad!
The curse of the ‘modern audience.’
@MysticCoder yeah I agree. This decade is just too politically charged to bring something like that back right now. Maybe next decade people will let go of all that shit and TV shows can go back to stories without being politicized.
@@MysticCoder i dont think it's possible to re-imagine the original or the 03 version in this climate without it being turned into some monstrosity to appease the manufactured rage crowd. But i refuse to believe all this will last forever so someday. Just not for a while at least.
Absolutely 💯
if it's NOT the 1978 Galactica, it's not the real Battlestar Galactica!
I’m with you!! 👍
@@expfighter5112 The original miniseries was good... The series was a big expensive mistake. They would have done better with the miniseries format.
Agreed 100%!
On about 2000 Richard Haych wrote a great sequel to Battalstar Galactica. I know because I have an autographed copy.
Use that story! ! !
He tried but Universal just would not listen to him! 😡
The second coming, the trailer looked great.
imagine the depression of the writers and producers when people told them that their revolutionary forward idea of putting women at the same level with men, with black characters being taken seriously, and plot points involving serious political matters, had already been done DECADES before they were even born.... twice.
just IMAGINE the shattering of their entire reality... the crushing of those hopes of liberating light on THESE trying times of 2024, where THEY are "oppressed minorities".
I would have payed to see that.
Paid not payed. Other than that I TOTALLY AGREE!
😂🤣😂🤣
Imagine your horror when you realize that its been the same people all along.
At this point, I would love to see a fan-based series similar to Star Trek Phase II.
RDM BSG did it right. Recasting the role with the best actor for the part, regardless of skin color or reproductive organs. Yes, Starbuck, but also Adama, Boomer, and Saul mutherfrakkin’ Tigh.
1978 sequel series? Yes please. Bring the old girl out and put her on the big screen again. She still has majesty and would look brilliant.
Just don't find earth. Make Boomer - Herbert Jefferson Jr. the Admiral and then have an all new cast surrounding him. Planet/Crisis of the week, weave in a season long mystery, keep the show somewhat lighthearted like the original and Sold! There's a reason why the original was loved, recapture that and Bob's your uncle, great ratings!
Someone just came up with a STTNG idea that would work with a new BSG set it the OG universe. It could be done but the people in charge of the IP have no imagination! They see that the ReBoot worked so they believe that is what the fans want.
@@battlestarcollectica7106 the reboot with the gender swap?
They did that in 2003. All of the Bobs were your uncle. But you didn't watch apparently.
The 2003 reboot was depressing, and far too serious about itself...Worse, they gender swapped Starbuck from the original into a woman, not to mention the other male characters suffering the same unforgivable atrocity. Then they executed Richard Hatch's character because he was leading a rebellion against the Galactica. It mirrored his real life efforts to bring the series back, but the reboot saw fit to humiliate him in their twisted story. The original Movie absolutely blows the 2003 reboot out of the water.
Season one was good but I do agree with you.
The proof is right there. Reboot the original series,if done correctly, would kill all other franchises because people are hungry for this.
Agreed!! The problem is how do we convince Universal Studios!!
@@battlestarcollectica7106 That is the conundrum.
I cannot believe the reboot started in 2003. Has that much time really passed? Still the top show on my personal all time list.
It seems longer ago because they dragged out the seasons so long I think. Only '4' seasons but it was almost always on the verge of being canceled. I don't want them to make a new one for a long time if ever, because they'll still woke it up and let's be honest, most streaming shows suck and are canceled real quick.
Great first season!
The reboot was garbage. What drugs are you smoking? Have any left?
@@battlestarcollectica7106 1978? Yeah, it was.
If Universal needs a family type Battlestar Galactica they should continue the original series with the Battlestar Galactica and the Rag Tag fleet still on a on a lonely quest for earth 🌍 if they went with Richard Hatch’s Second Coming Battlestar Galactica it would of had a huge audience on the heels of Star Wars , “the Phantom Menace” !
Agreed!! Thanks for watching!
Its a lonely quest all right. Most people on earth wish they were in space.
@@artemusprine agreed 👍
After watching this I thank the Lords of Kobal that it was cancelled
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I forgot that Jane Seymour played Serina, Apollo's new wife and Boxey's mother. Nice photo of Jane/Serina at the end of this video.
😂it’s kind of a channel inside thing now!
She was amazing but didn't want to stay with the show. Unfortunately.
Galactica was great because it gave us hope. Staying true to the Original is ALWAYS a winning move. Kathleen Kennedy's biggest mistake with STAR WARS Galaxy's Edge was NOT making it from 1977, but what Disney has done since 2015 sighting that Disney needed to appeal to people in their 30s & 40s and to forget about those of us in our 50s and up. But the truth is that: Nobody wants to see Jakku, but everybody wants to see Tatooine! From Galactica I want to see more of the 12 Colonies, and the Fleet. In Larson's Galactica books a Battlestar was HUGE! About the size of Darth Vader's Command Ship. Adama stated that: "it would take a Hiker years to walk through and see all the decks & rooms on Galactica. The ship we got on TV was Imperial Cruiser size.
Don’t get me started on “new” Star Wars!! 😡
You are right. Original Story Continuity would sell!
It’s the perfect time! A show that 3 generations could watch together!
I might be mistaken, but "Strange New Worlds" takes place in the Kelvin timeline and is therefore not "original souce material continuity". ;o) - Please correct me if i'm wrong!
Jury's still out on that one, let's just say that Canon is optional, and as far as I'm personally concerned, it's either or, but there are enough continuity flaws that could support the Kelvin Timeline theory
It can't be the Kelvin timeline, because in that timeline Kirk goes straight from the academy to the Enterprise, and in Strange New Worlds Kirk is an officer on another ship.
However, the fact that it's not Kelvin doesn't mean it's the prime universe of TOS. Since the sixties we've had Borg going back in time, Romulans changing when the Eugenics Wars happened, and the trifling of countless dubious writers who have made what they consider prime universe something impossible to jibe with TOS.
I thought it was OG material based on some stuff I read at the star of the series but now I don’t know!🤔
@@battlestarcollectica7106 I believe it's carried on from Discovery's old "Prime TOS"era before they went into the far future
Kelvin isn't a Timeline it's an Alternate Universe With an Altered Timeline,,, Strange New Worlds, Discovery and Lower Decks exist together in their own Alternate Universe and Picard is an Alternate Universe by itself,,, there has been No New Prime Universe show sense Enterprise and No New Prime Universe movie sense Nemesis
I'm an old man now and loved watching the original release in my teens. When the 2003 reboot arrived (I'll admit) I wasn't happy. Star Buck was now a woman, etc. Move forward and after watching about two seasons of the reboot I truly enjoyed it. All the actors were awesome and I really loved the darker aspect of the story. IMO it truly is a work of of perfection in both filming and story. And yes, I own both collector versions of the show on Blu-ray as well.
The first season of the Reboot is very good with some truly great writing. After that the series took a little turn towards weirdness with (in my opinion) a very poor conclusion.
@@battlestarcollectica7106Did they all do miming at the end?
Probably a good thing, especially considering the awful re-imagining in 2003 where they ruined the continuity and the Cylons!
I agree.
The way a lot of modern entertainment is trying to cater to a audience that doesn't exist this isn't a bad thing, give it five years or so & perhaps someone with not only talent but a love for the franchise can make something worthy of the legacy & being set in the original universe would be sweet.
I agree but the only problem is that many of us don’t have 5 years to wait anymore! 😂
@@battlestarcollectica7106 LOL.....I'd rather chance waiting than watching another beloved franchise be turned into a skinsuit with no soul.
I would have loved for them to consider again something akin to Richard Hatch's Second Coming. Based on the original 1970s show. Heck with everyone older (or passed) they just make it a continuation with some of the original actors in senior roles or flashbacks. Or have them go through a time warp or whatever to age the crew.
The fact that so many of the OG actors participated in that concept trailer shows they had interest (or at least supported Richard).
Universal needs to be convinced. They just keep getting it wrong!
Dirk Benedict is the last actor around i think
@@Rob-z7k Start it with "The Return of Starbuck". Like the one we deserved not the 1980 one.
@Rob-z7k No, there's still quite a few cast members from the 78 series that are still around besides Dirk.
For starters, there's Herbert Jefferson Jr. a.k.a Lieutenant Boomer. He's definitely still around. As a matter of fact, all you have to do to see him is hit up any comic book or sci-fi convention between San Diego and Los Angeles, and chances are Herb will be there signing photos. He's practically a staple at San Diego Comic-Con.
The three main actresses are all still around. Laurette Spang (Cassiopea), Maren Jensen (Athena), and Anne Lockhart (Sheba) are still here.
Noah Hathway (Boxy) and Ed Begley Jr. (Greenbean) are still around as well.
@@coreyc5982 Maren Jensen and Anne Lockhart are still around but the former is retired i think..
So, basically canned by the network for not being aimed directly the the "Wal-Mart & McDonald's Idiocracy". What a surprise!
The comments in the video that it "would appeal to a limited audience" and "the country's mood has changed" makes me think it was too woke. Looks like studio execs are taking notice of what audiences think of newer movies such as the Snow White remake.
Your right! Sad but very true.
@@Klaatu2Too If the studio execs were expecting it to be more like the Star Wars crap then they wanted it more juvenile, campy & snarky-comedic, like the garbage Disney-Marvel pumps out regularly, woke or not woke. Personally, I prefer my sci-fi more adult, serious & dramatic, like Man of Steel for example (or previous BSG remake), & less like the campy-cheesy Guardians of the Galaxy movies (as one example of many). But, that's me & likely in the minority.
Disappointed in this especially after they spent 5 years in development.
Refreshing the original 78 concept i think would have been better received than going back to the Dystopia of the reboot.
Im surprised one idea hasn't been considered - taking the 78 series but using modern CGI effects like they did with the TOS.
I saw a proof of concept video called "The Living Legend Project" here on TH-cam that took a clip from the 2 part episode "The Living Legend" and modernized the special effects.
I think that would bridge old and new fans and perhaps spur interest in revising a reboot more in line with the 78 series.
It’s a great idea! Paramount did it with TOS to great financial success!
Quite a few of us prefer pre-CGI effects.
Modernizing the effects for Galactica isn't the problem. The show was a hit, it had its fans and those that loath newness. But something or SOMEONE behind the scenes at Universal has a bug up its tail pipe about $$$omething.
When ever they remake anything they ruin it 😢
Agreed!!
I’m a simple man. I want season two of the original story lol that’s what we all want. Just continue the story (don’t find Earth) keep Pegasus and maybe a few other warships. Man I’d love to see that. I read a lot of BSG fan fiction those types of stories are always fun to read. Keep up the great content. Wonderful channel my man! 🍻
Sounds great to me but we have to convince Universal Studios!
@@MysticCoder I'm a complicated man, I just like simple things so my brain doesn't cook like a Pentium(tm) trying to run Windows Vista.
You''d love to see it...if they did it well. They want to make soap operas slash fic and social engineering and have zero desire to make a war movie or realistic survival drama
I look at the reboot as Galactica's version of Star Trek's evil mirror universe where humanity got what it deserved....
Lol! Ok, that’s good!!! Thanks!!😂
Humanity deserved Starbuck being turned into a female, and Colonel Tighe being turned from a good black man into a White Drunk guy? LMAO
I eventually concluded the humans in the reboot were so dysfunctional that the Cylons needed have bothered attacking. The humans would have destroyed themselves before long.
There is a comic book where the original series and the reboot meet. It's quite entertaining, actually. For example, Felgercarb in the reboot universe is a brand of toothpaste.
The Blood and Chrome movie in SyFy show's continuity actually had the original series version of cylons.
The 2003 reboot is still my favorite sci fi show, glad they don't get to ruin it
Agreed! Why remake it? There is so much there for a sequel series!
@@battlestarcollectica7106 I take the RDM Reboot over the original any day.
Maybe i am just to young to apreciate the superb special effects and space battle scenes of the original.
A visual Remaster of the original, with CGI Space Battles would be interesting.
But how would you make a sequel to the 2003 Series? They made it to earth. The End.
@Llabenlump Everyone has their own opinion, but I liked the RDM version the best. I don't dislike the original, I have seen most of it because my dad was a fan back in the 70s but the RDM version is my top 5 favorite and IMO rebooting it has a high probability of failure which I don't want to see it tainted. The original is also beloved by so many I feel like a reboot of that or continuation would also be a let down for most fans of the 78 version.
@Brendo2186 I share your opinion 100% I just think you cant make a "family firendly" and "light hearted" TV show about refuges fleeing from genocide. Thats why i like the RDM Version more. I think its a generational thing. I think most people who saw the first Series when it aired will almost always put it above the remake. Oh and lets not forget the female Startbuck. Heresy! 😄And with the RDM which is already old enough to drink, it will likely be the same. I didnt expect myself to be to fond of the reboot. Now i wont find out.
Sorry for my english, im not a native speaker.
@Llabenlump no worries, you are spot on. The story is about the few survivors of humanity fleeing genocidal robots after being mostly wiped out. By its nature it's a dark story.
If they were smart they would pick up from where the last episode ended on the original series. No reboots, no reimagining.
Agreed!!
I'm starting to see more and more kids at Comic cons dressing up as the original 1978 Battlestar Galactica series characters and original Star Wars characters from 1977. . . These properties are nearly 50 years old but somehow are making a bigger and bigger impact on the youth today. I think the message is clear. Just give us back our original Battlestar Galactica story and characters! Heck! Do the same for our Star Wars characters while we're at it too!! . . Never seen such out of touch folk as those taking the lead in our entertainment industry!
Yeah - we need more InCel friendly shows.
The show is still very popular and Funko just gave it a big support push! Check out my episode on their new Funko Fusion game.
@@battlestarcollectica7106 I'm on it!
@@battlestarcollectica7106 I'm on it!
@@john-lenin don't take drugs and take your small hats with you.
The ONLY BATTLESTAR GALACTICA THAT MATTERS IS THE ORIGINAL and Richard Hatch / Captain Apollo HAD IT RIGHT.
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You are absofreakinlutely correct!!!! Original Battlestar Galactica is the only Battlestar Galactica!! Reboot was rubbish!!!
Yep!
I like them both for what they are.
Both were great and distinct things.
If I had to guess, I’d say Ron Moore still held a lot of sway with the studio. He wouldn’t want his gritty, mature, “realistic” version of the show overshadowed by one that appealed to a general audience and/or was family friendly.
He’s a nice guy but his idea of what BSG should be is not what the fans want.
@@battlestarcollectica7106 I'm with you. I thought Moore's show was good at best, but was not a fan of it. I'd love to see BSG returned to its roots where it's not afraid to be science fiction. I don't mean it should be silly, but it also doesn't have to have NASA/JPL's approval stamped all over it. That's what I disliked most about Moore's version: imagination was sucked dry from it.
I don’t think that’d happen. I imagine RDM wanted it to happen as he likes BSG. I loved the new show as I did like it and it didn’t try to compete with the original and was doing its own thing which was good. Making the show dark puts it in a showdown with the 2000s version. It’d have to be exceptionally good to stand up next to that one.
I hope that a new version is as beloved as the originals.❤❤
@@nicholasdickens2801 If it "did its own thing", then why did they rip off the characters from the OG and just gender/race swap them?! If they were truly original the would have come up with whole new characters and respected the old ones.
Hey sexy cylons wasn’t your thing? 😂
You know... even at this point they really could go back and pick up the original series as a "Next Gen" type approach. We don't need a third retelling of the fall of the Colonies and their Exodus to find Earth. If you are watching Battlestar Galactica, you probably already know. But picking up a generation into this fleet that is still searching for Earth could be fascinating! (And maybe lure a certain Dirk back to the screen?) Ignore G1980, and that transmission of the Eagle moon landing was a wibbly wobbly spacey thing.
I would love to see Battlestar return to the fun, adventure and heroes of the original series style. Updated of course, but let's have some fun again, shall we?
I really was hoping that it would be as you suggested a type of STTNG show. Unfortunately it was just going to be a remake of the ReImagined series. 😔
Simply (re)doing the original Battlestar series or adding "new episodes/stories" as closely as possible (like Star Trek Continues did) would be a massive win imo
Agreed!!!
Any chance of a video on the cancelled-during-production *Singer DeSantos Battlestar Galactica* continuation? It was before B.Singer was exposed, of course! They were building full-size Vipers designed by Guy Hendrix Dyas when the plug was pulled.
"Launch When Ready!" 🚀
The question is where is DeSantis?? For a while he was Mr. BSG and then disappeared! 🤔
Good premise for a video! 👍
I'd watch *that* video for sure!
I think execs are afraid now. Battlestar and Space:1999 recognize religion.
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I for one am shocked the studio that mistook Battlestar Galatic for Space Bonanza failed again.
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As much as I have long wanted a continuation of the OG BG... After that terrible "reboot", I have come to the realization that it will never happen and I will have to be content with that movie and following episodes. I am good with that as they are infinitely rewatchable.
Yup, sad to say but I agree with you.
Hopefully they can go back to the original source material like you said, would love it. Also need some Retro figures to go along with it.
They really should!! What’s the point of a reboot if it’s not going to use what made the original so great?!
The only way to not make a reboot a complete rehash would be to include arriving at Earth, but not in the stupid way 1980 did by leading the Cylons to it. Instead of everyone dropping on Earth's doorstep, the story is that they know how to get there, but try to delay as long as possible discovery by the Cylons. They send one group to leave a trail of misdirection while the rest go to Earth with enough technology to begin uplifting the locals to the point where they can attempt to resist what may come.
Good ideas. I hope Universal is reading some of these comments because they make sense!!
Personally, I would like to see a Reboot of another great Science Fiction TV Series. I would like to see a Reboot of Babylon Five Interestinly, I can't seem to find any reruns of Babylon Five anywhere on Cable TV. I think Babylon Five had a very underlying Political Message which was very Radical which the Establishment- the Ruling Elite doesn't like.
Something strange going on with B5. They did issue an animated movie but with almost no publicity. 🤔
JMS had plans to a Babylon 5 reboot for The CW before Nexstar took over..sadly they fell through.
@@battlestarcollectica7106 Thank You for your response. HOw long ago did it come out? Was it out on Movie Theaters? Where can I watch it?
I watched Babylon 5 in the late 90's I beleive. I think it was a syndicated program. I watched on the Pre-DVR or Tivo Era. I didnt' get Cable till the late 90's. I would watch episodes here and there. I don't remember if I maybe recorded some episodes with my VCR, but if I remember I don't think Broadcast TV worked that well with a VCR. When I went to the TNT network the last either year or 2 or its run, because I didn't have Cable at the time I wasn't able to watch it at all.
Even now, I am dissapointed that it doesnt' seem to be anwhere on Standard CAble or on the Prenimus Channesl I get with the bulk Package my building provides- Showtimes, Starz and Starz/enccore
I don''t have Netflix or any streaming services right now Do you know where I could watch Babylon 5 for Free or low price? I might try to order the series from my local Library.
IBy the way, always thought the series was a Metaphor or allegory for Politics in the US.. With its plot of the World President ( I think it was suppose to be the World President) being assassinated by Psych Corps- I thought that was a Metaphor the CIA assassinating JFK.
Anyway, if you can tell me where I might be able to watch the original B5 for free or low price as well as maybe the Animated Movie that would be good.. Thanks!
The problem with BSG is it has the same problem of Gilligan's or Star Trek Voyage. The BSG crew is looking for a new world once that occurs then show ends.
Yup! GL always said that was the trap that OG show would have eventually had faced had it gone on for years.
It *might* have worked... if the Earth they'd found had been the one from *Buck Rogers!*
Or Star Trek!
Exactly, look at Galactica 1980. They thought they could continue the show even though they found Earth.
Galactica 80, while HORRIBLY implemented didn't have a broken premise. It can continue. Maybe if the OG Cylons are alien lizards, they could have a BSG & V (Visitors) reboot tied together. I'd be down for that.
It never ceases to amaze me how these execs F up a free lunch ! ! !
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From the moment the Peacock project was announced, I didn't understand it. It makes no sense to place the new story within the universe of Ronald D Moore's BSG because that show had a definitive ending. There is nowhere to go with it. BSG is an epic story which can be told and re-told in different ways. My vote would be for something like the original series or even a continuing story from the original series, but with more mature writing and more character-focused story arcs. Like the best elements from 1978 and 2003 combined.
I agree but unfortunately Universal believes that the fans want a new version of the 2003 show! 🤷♂️ I know makes no sense!!
The new series failed, eh? Good! If they aren't going to respect the original/the source material, then it deserves to die in the planning stages! If universal ever comes to their senses(and I'm not holding my breath waiting for that!), they'd be wise to continue the original while they can. After all, the remaining cast isn't getting any younger!
Your right. Unfortunately time is running out for many of us older fans!
@@battlestarcollectica7106 They don't care about older fans....that's why they went full speed ahead with a horrible reboot.
I'm glad that another "reimagined" show, that spits in the faces of the original fans, didn't get the greenlight this time. Mandolorian is no longer a financial success. Strange New World's NEVER has been.
Right now the only successful SW that Disney has going for is the Mandelorian. I recently visited Galaxy’s Edge for the very first time. Even that SW is pretty bad (and half empty because of it!).
No more BATTLE-💲E❌ RA🅿️E-TACULAR!
Why can't they get this right?! It's obvious! Just continue the 1978 series instead!
Have you seen all the Easter Eggs in *Ready Player One* yet?
"Launch When Ready!" 🚀
Yes and yes!!! Thanks again!! 😊
I suggest they get their act together. There is nothing on tv worth anyone’s time to watch and it’s only getting worse. Writers can’t right, producers can’t manage and networks have their heads up their ass.
Think how cool it would be right now for a family friendly adventure show! The time is so perfect!
The 2003 story arc was really good. War is never optimistic!
I agree but I think that people need a break from dark stuff right now.
What I’d REALLY like to see is something new!!!
Agreed! I got into dark matter after I finished the reboot but that show got cancelled just as it got interesting. Ah well.
I’m with you but not something that is going to depress me every episode!
I hate the new Coke. A lot of brand new variants of Pepsi suck too.
But I love Pepsi. Original Pepsi.
@ good news for you, all those reruns are free on Tubi!
I love Cherry Pepsi and pizza!
If Lunaversal continued the original series and we all know their quest for earth was never over
I think if the show had a good original run it probable would have found Earth.
It will be very hard to replicate the feel of the old series, if there's no Starbuck, Apollo, Boomer, Adama or General Tigh, Boxy the robot dog on the side of the heroes and for the villains the original Cylon robots led by Boltar, its just not Battlestar Galactica.
If its got to be updated and woke they could at least have the main characters with the same personalities of the original series and keep things simple with just two genders instead of weighing it down with all the equal rights for all types bullshit.
It could be done. Just imagine a STTNG style show set in the OG universe.
@battlestarcollectica7106 Yes, I always liked the STTNG cast and situations the crew got themselves into, if this was in the OG universe it would be nice if they could retro it with a late 1970's styled wardrobe and hairstyles for the cast, this would be such a thank you letter to what the OG fans remember it to be.
The long, ragged, wild looking hairstyles, the suede jackets and boots and also retro styled computer systems/flight decks and avionics controls for the fighter jets are essential to have the feel of the OG universe too.
I just hope they get a producer/director who grew up in the 1970's because they'd know exactly how it's meant to be done, from watching the OG series as a child and replicating something special onscreen for future generations to enjoy.
A great blast from the past.
I loved both the original (at first) and the Reboot. *Somehow Ronald D. Moore and the others were able to successfully connect the 2 even as very, very different as they were. Any attempts to start anew will have to atleast equal both in their respective areas they did well at; that's a very High Bar. Give Ronald D. Moore a blank check and creative freedom and I'm sure it would make that, but as we have all seen with Hollywood's ***** in the last 10-15 years, the studios don't want a great show for people to watch and enjoy, they want something cheap that rides on a great shows laurels then blame everybody when its a flop.
Agreed! You’re spot on when it comes to how Hollywood treats properties today. Just look at Disney!
There's nothing new from Hollywood anymore. Just hackneyed reboots or bad comics adaptations.
Agreed! It’s very bad right now!
Strange New Worlds is not in the OG continuity, it is in an alternative continuity. It was part of STD which is now de-canonized (thank god) which means SNW is now also de-canonized.
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Discovery was not decanonized. The Schrödinger Field turning the TNG era Klingons into Discovery era Klingons was a sight gag and nothing more.
I agree & found this online by a simple Google search. Some will disagree, but those who like the new crap will get angry. It's certainly not Star Trek in the least other than name & character re-use. Just like the Kelvin timeline. The only real Star Trek was from 1966-2005.
"According to recent reports, "Star Trek: Discovery" has been officially declared non-canon, meaning it is no longer considered part of the main Star Trek timeline, with the final episode of "Star Trek: Lower Decks" confirming that it takes place in an alternate universe separate from the prime timeline; effectively "erasing" it from the canon.
Key points about this "discanonization":
Reason for removal:
Many fans and critics felt "Discovery" deviated too much from the established Star Trek universe.
Confirmation source:
The final episode of "Lower Decks" is cited as the definitive source confirming "Discovery" as non-canon.
Impact:
This means that the events and characters from "Discovery" are now considered to be from a separate alternate timeline."
@@terrylong8894 Of course it wasn't de-canonized... it was ever canon in the first place!
@@sandman_says_runrunner4701 Lower Decks, Prodigy, Strange New Worlds, Picard, Section 31 and Starfleet Academy would all not exist without Discovery. Maybe go outside and touch grass?
Heres some additional ideas for a new classic 'Battlestar Galactica,' re-activation.
Katee Sackoff could be in the new series as Starbuck and Cassiopeia 's oldest daughter on the series... as a Viper Pilot, as a mother--with Starbuck and Cassiopeia's grandkids. Katee could change her look to adapt to the new 'Battlestar' series by letting her hair grow out but retaining her other Starbuck characteristics.
Tricia Helfer could be a new 'Basestar,' commander whose eyes turn to Red when she is in their Basestar commander position and whose eyecolor is of a different color depending on the position she is in at the time. She can actually go on 'away,' missions when she needs, or wants to.
Grace Park can be Boomer (Herbert Jefferson Jr.), adopted daughter who was trained by Boomer, Apollo, Sheba, and Starbuck.
You could also have a new female Triad game for the female pilots in a traditional role as wearing more 'Cheesecake,' uniforms to compete / compare with the 'Beefcake,' versions the male players wore and wear in updated fashion designs.
The actresses and actors from the 're-imagined,' two-thousand' series would fit in really well.
Now that is original and could work! Thanks!!
Too much money ? That was the reason/ excuse they used on the cancellation of the original.
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So this makes what??? 3 times failing since 2019 to fire up an original series-type reboot???
They should go back to the Pegasus story they originally were going to try. That way if they eff it up it won't really hurt the actual BSG original canon.
There is at least 9 hours worth of storylines out there already written they could at least use as a template.
I think maybe Universal needs to lease the rights out to someone else and let them have a shot at making something. The Pegasus storyline would be great if it did succeed they would still hold the rights to the Galactica story they could revive after 4 or so years of a Pegasus storyline working as was done with Deep Space 9 and Voyager or Discovery and Strange New Worlds. Universal could still control the rights to the Cylon attack on the Colony worlds with the Pegasus show only allowed enough latitude with it to start their storyline off.
It’s a disaster! The problem is that eventually no one will care anymore (a lot of us of fans are getting old!).
There is probably room to revive a show about early colonial history where they first went to war with the Cylons. With CGI they can keep costs down.
Sounds like a great idea! Come on Universal!!
Great video first of all. Second, I hope they don't try to bring back BSG for one reason you brought up, they would want to make it like Mandalorian. Season 2 and 3 of Mando was very divisive in the sense that it was used to push political/social messages to the audience. Star Wars was not perceived by the audience to be that which is why so many are disappointed with the franchise. The age of using sci-fi for a platform has to die out as people don't want that anymore. Mainly because we are in the 21st century and we are no closer to that fabled utopia than predicted. Many fans just want an adventure that has growth, structure and continuity so we can invest our time and money to follow. They can either sell a story or tell a story. They always pick to sell a story which is where we see our beloved stories get destroyed through "politics". The best idea for a BSG reboot was the one Richard Hatch attached himself to. It is unfortunate that NBC said no and he passed away. The days for BSG are behind us moreso than in front of us. SIGH....
It was a great idea that could have worked but the studio was still is clueless! The problem with the current Universal is that they are very risk adverse. That is why they now rely on horrible tent pole sequels so much. It’s very sad!
I feel your sentiment. I double your SIGH. I remember the whole household sitting in front of Galactica (78) for the family-friendly, adventurous escapism. I don't know who would be capable in making something like that these days. Given how much more extreme the social/political influence is now (even beyond the time of the re-imagined series), maybe it's better they don't do it.
I think you're spot on. 03 BSG certainly had themes that related to what was going on at the time, but it wasn't any kind of platform either. It was a good balance, a great story and character development and very realistic. I think maybe wait until next decade when all the 2020s crazy has hopefully faded to try again.
nonsense. there's a reason why the empire looks like Nazis in a New Hope. As if political commentary was something new to the scifi genre. lol
I'll go on record to say I love both versions of the series (As long as the Galactica 1980 is thrown out). Each spoke to the audience of their time. At the time of 2003's start I compared it to how Gundam has its UC and AU timelines. I'm disappointed, because a big part of the reason I got Peacock when it started up was because of this prospective series. Fortunately, it turned out to be a useful streamer to have, but it's disappointing to see that a new Battlestar Galactica of any kind isn't coming anytime soon.
Peacock is not stupid. They knew that it was BAD!
@@battlestarcollectica7106MR ROBOT started out ok but then got TOO weird quickly. That same guy was over the newest BSG
They should go back to the original ideas for BSG and bring that to the screen. Make it look more like an ancient human civilization and less USA in space, weaving-in ancient mythologies. Visually it should look ancient, futuristic and even alien in some ways - but the characters and their humanity, the very thing they are trying to preserve is what should make it relatable. They could do something for the whole family, sure with some darker undertones - it is about the extermination of the human race after all. Why not bring back Boxey and Muffit on one hand, and the Imperious Leader, Baltaar and Lucifer on the other? Whoever does it will need to spend a decent money on it to do it right, a low budget rehash of the reboot isn't worth anyone's time.
Sounds like a great idea to me!! The problem is Universal!!
Just use the original designs there's nothing wrong with any of them. It was they didn't take the story of an entire civilization of 13 worlds plus hundreds of others seriously.
Dark and gritty won't work. They already did that with the 2003 series. If they did it again then everyone would be comparing this new series to that one. Plus, why do the same thing twice. I'm sick of dark and gritty anyway.
The premise of the last of Humanity being hunted down by genocidal androids is dark and gritty. Anything beyond that is really just filler.
@@aerohard You could make it a comedy. Apollo was about to meet his mother-in-law but then the Cylons destroy everything including her; Apollo is happy that he doesn't have to see her.
The kid has a major test at school that he didn't study for. The Cylons destroy his school and he doesn't have to do the test anymore.
Half the crew is happy because of obligations they escaped, and the other half is sad. The happy crew must tip-toe around the sad crew.
Agreed!
@@battlestarcollectica7106 Could also tell the story in reverse..an advanced civilization on Earth comes under siege by a new form of Cylon(alien,not man-made),and a expedition fleet led by a new model of the Galactica sets out to find"The Lost Colonies of Caprica"..
@@TTrigg Or they could tell the story of how the original earth was destroyed which started the exodus to kobol.
Not only would Galactica not find Earth, but Earth wouldn't find Galactica since it would be on Peacock.
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Sorry, I'm old enough to have watched the original BSG when it aired. It was essentially quick cash grab to cash in on the popularity of Star Wars. It was campy, shallow cotton candy with cardboard characters and lasted all of 1 season.
The Reboot in comparison was more "real", and dealt with themes that we in the US were struggling with at the time.
Same. Even as a kid I thought the original was campy and cheesy. (some episodes more than others) Yeah let's make a family friendly show about the genocide of humanity. As you said, it failed miserably. People get blinded by childhood nostalgia. Sometimes first isn't best. BSG is a prime example.
@@5eddie5agreed and with the same space action scenes used over and over zzzzz
The original series was pretty dark for 1978. Many people tuned in and expected Star Wars but instead got something much different. Still amazes me that it even got green lit!
That is depressing to hear. I was really hoping they would go ahead with the 1978 continuation.
I as well!
I hate this modern obsession to make Sci Fi shows "gritty" and "realistic"..in this case the network made a good decision.
I agree!
1978 BSG was a big part of my childhood. There was a long time between Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back. BSG and Buck Rogers were the right shows at the right time. Many episodes have aged well all these years later. The BSG reboot was TOO DARK, and was at least a season too long.
With the passing of several OG BSG cast members in the intervening years, we’ll never get the proper reunion show OG BSG deserved. But a fresh reboot NOT based on Ron Moore’s show WOULD succeed if they ever get it off the ground. What do they need? Good writing, good casting, and a TOY/MERCH line!!!!
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Probably for the better, chances are they'd have screwed it up. Let's be honest: we got lucky in 2003 and now we have 2 good BSG versions to watch. I don't wager much they would be able to do it a third time.
I think it’s over for BSG. I don’t see another attempt for a very long time.
I grew up with the original series and would like to see a reboot of that. The incarnation from 2003 was nice too but the protagonists were to much depressed. In reality these people would not have survived for five minutes.
The problem is that Universal only has interest in rebooting the 2003 show. They think that’s what the fans want.
Even if they avoid the G80 route completey, I hope any continuation of the original would also include Boxey & Dillon. Maybe an alternate version of Jamie too!
I’m sure they could be fit into continuity. Thanks for watching and Happy New Year!
Thanks! Happy New Year to you also!
I had no idea a new Battlestar was coming our way. I was a kid when the original aired and loved how they fled their planet to survive from being wiped out of existence from the cool looking bad ass one Lazer eye silver robot Cylons. There was infighting between the humans as they searched for the last colony of the planet Earth which they had no idea if Earth was even real or not and that was a great story arc twist. Fantasy heroes wondering if we were real!!
The newer series had the same storyline and then the short prequels gave us the creation of the Cylons. We even got human looking Cylons were some of them didn't even know they were Cylons.
As a fan, I'm not interested in a reboot. I guess the only storyline I'd care about is something new where the Cylons are attacking Earth and maybe we team up with members from the Galactica to fight them or Galactica grabs Earth survivors and flees again.
Now that is a good premise and at least imaginative! Universal just wants to remake the 2003 series!
Big fan of the original BSG and it is overall my favorite version. Galactica 1980 not so much, but the Ron Moore reboot was Very Good and I enjoyed it immensely. Solid story and effects.
I was with you up until the RM reboot...
@@sandman_says_runrunner4701Exactly!! Reboot was horrendous!!!
Some very good stories in the ReBoot series.
Your assessment of what Universal Studios SHOULD DO to revive Battlestar Galactica as a truly valid, family friendly and highly lucrative franchise property is absolutely correct and totally right on the money! Well said. In fact, I don't think I could have stated it any better. But please allow me to at least take a stab at it, if I may. But fair warning; what follows is definitely a lot longer than the overly simplistic one liners that most people are used to seeing on the Internet, so if you'd rather not read on, then by all means, don't even bother. It's surely no sweat off my nose if you don't.
That said, like millions of other kids, I was totally head over heels in love with the original series, and still am to this very day. Come to think of it, I might even love Glen A. Larson's often much too easily and wrongfully dismissed sci-fi TV extravaganza even more than Star Wars; that increasingly bloated and now sadly totally off course Disney mis-owned cash cow that was supposedly a "ripoff" of the aforementioned rival space opera set "a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away."
And although I think that Ronald D. Moore and company are extremely adept creatives in their own right, I did NOT enjoy what they unfortunately did to the legacy of classic original BSG. Sure, I watched every single episode of the "re-imagined" series, and some parts of it were arguably somewhat "better," or certainly more "modern," than the original show, but overall, in my humble opinion, the 2003-09 series was nowhere near the extremely high caliber of classic original Battlestar Galactica.
Thus, I have long thought that the show does NOT in fact need to be "rebooted." It does NOT need to be made into a needlessly graphic, so-called "gritty," and often even rather low-class, pornified low-budget looking mockery of the original series. Hockey helmets?! Seriously? They actually used commercially available hockey helmets in the re-imagined series? Yes they darn well did! And they even used WOOD FIBER PEG BOARD (painted battleship gray) to dress many of the interior sets of their often just plain ugly "re-imagining" of the original series.
Worse still, there was even a scene in one of the "re-imagined" post-series TV movies which showed a woman with bare breasts in a bar sequence. Okay, sure, most of us men (and even plenty of women) love to ogle actors in various states of undress, but honestly, was that even necessary? In fact, like most Hollyweird nude and full-blown sex scenes these strange days indeed, it was totally unnecessary and did not enhance the plot in any appreciably pertinent way whatsoever. But then, that post-series add-on was directed by THE Edward James Olmos himself, whom, sure, I loved when he played Gaff in Blade Runner (1982), but the REAL Commander Adama (aka Lorne Greene) is NOT, and NEVER will be, a hot-tempered psycho who could literally beat a "skin job" Cylon to death, as depicted in the 2003 pilot for the series. Whether the actor playing Adama happens to be wearing blue contact lenses or not!
I could go on forever, but in the interests of cutting this short, I'll just summarize by saying that what the Battlestar Galactica franchise DOES need, and what Universal Studios will eventually do (IF, that is, if the people now running the studio are even one iota smarter than the idiots who foolishly cancelled the original series back in 1979) is to return to the look, feel, and overall flavor of the original series. Period. Full stop. End of story. In other words, even if all of the characters have to be recast because they're now "too old" to fit the parts they once played, any new production should absolutely take up where the original series left off. In fact, Dirk Benedict, Herbert Jefferson Jr., and Anne Lockhart could all still be cast as other, though admittedly now probably minor, characters. Heck! Even Jane Seymour is still one exceptionally fine looking lady, and I always thought that Gregory Peck would have made an outstanding Commander Adama.
And sorry (not sorry) wokies, NO RACE OR GENDER SWAPPING! For example, Colonel Tigh and Lt. Boomer should still be portrayed by dashing, handsome black MEN (like Terry Carter and Herb Jefferson Jr.), and if you wanna toss in more Asians than were typically seen in the original, then fine, go ahead. Knock your revisionist socks off, I guess. But, psst! Richard Hatch actually played Native Indian or Hawaiian (and other more or less Asian looking) parts before being cast in Battlestar Galactica. And okay, Lorne Greene was Canadian, but he was also Jewish (so he sometimes went by the name "Chaim"), and like Leonard Nimoy (who often played Indians or even a Yuan Dynasty Chinese official in one particular case), many people of Eastern European/Asiatic origin can not only pass for Caucasians, but they can sometimes look downright Far Eastern as well. Uh... do a Google image search for Ezra Miller. Go ahead. I'll wait. And uh... I think we can safely say that Athena (Maren Jensen) is at least half Asian (if not full) something or other. Unlike Grace Park, who is full Korean-Canadian-American (or whatever!), and most importantly, the lovely Ms. Jensen did not look entirely out of place playing Apollo's sister/Adama's daughter.
So yes, that means that they should either totally ignore almost everything that transpired in Galactica 1980 (a show that even Glen Larson sincerely regretted doing, with the exception of The Return of Starbuck, of course) AND that needlessly graphic, seedy "re-imagined" trainwreck (that I fully acknowledge many fans still honor and adore, and hey, more power to 'em!), but if the folks at Universal Studios have any sense at all, they will indeed return to all of the original series designs, including the classic ships, the ancient Egyptian inspired flight helmets, the Jean-Pierre Dorléac designed uniforms, etc. Of course they would need to update and otherwise tweak various things here and there, such as the fact that special effects have come a very, very long way since 1978. If nothing else they could very easily upgrade the look of the standard model Cylon Centurion. You know, so that they no longer clumsily stumble around because they're really just out of work basketball players who can't see well through the narrow eye holes in those gleaming, otherwise gorgeous original series helmets!
Do you copy that, Universal Studios? Because in fact, you've STILL got a HUGELY popular and potentially extremely lucrative sci-fi property on your hands. And I think you darned well know it too. So whatever you do, DON'T let revisionist entertainment history hacks like David Eick (Ick!) and Ronald D. Moore get their exploitive R-rated hands on our beloved classic ever again. Okay! if the "re-imagined" fans are so hot and eager for gratuitous boob shots and cheesy, cheap-looking, non-properly Galactica authentic costumes, then by all means, keep watching your DVD sets ad infinitum. Because seriously, Ron Moore really is an extremely talented writer and producer, having done wonders when he worked on Star Trek for Paramount. But let's face it, "The tree is known by its fruit." And the fruit that Moore seems to prefer to grow these days is packed full of boob shots and needlessly prolonged sex scenes in shows like... oh... OUTLANDER!
Okay, I'm of Scottish-Irish lineage myself, so I enjoy watching that show every now and then, but... to be quite honest, Claire (Caitríona Balfe) reminds me way, way too much of my own dear Scots-Irish American mother. So, honestly, I really don't want OR NEED to be forced to see such a lovely, talented young actress butt-naked, shamelessly pretending to copulate for what seems like a full HALF of some episodes. Crikey! Even the shape of her pale Irish wrists and hands remind me of me dear old mum. So PLEASE, for Crike's sake, Ron Moore and company! Could you maybe offer a more family friendly version of Outlander (or whichever historical epic set in the British Isles)? Okay, admittedly, my mother had six kids, so I'm quite sure that she had to "get busy" at least that many times herself, but... come on, all you shamelessly debauched Hollyweirdos, enough already! You wanna make softcore pornos, go right ahead. There is definitely a SEPARATE market for that kind of thing, but PLEASE stop trying to cram that kind of gratuitous content down everyone's throats all the time. You know, just because, in our increasingly debauched western "free world," you can actually get away with it. Just a thought. :)
You make some very good points! The problem is Hollywood is creatively bankrupt. It’s easier to add garbage to a tv/film to distract from bad writing or plotting. Unfortunately it works all too well so they will continue to do it.
@@battlestarcollectica7106 Thank you very much. As a diehard classic original Galactica fan, I seriously enjoy your channel, and I save every single one of your video releases to my "sci-fi - Battlestar Galactica" TH-cam list (which may currently be set to "private," I'm not even sure, I'll have to check). At any rate, I apologize for writing such a long comment, but as far as I'm concerned, it had to be done to actually appropriately define the sheer, sadly frustrating length and breadth of the problem that all of us classic BSG fans have been vexed by since... oh, at least way back in 1979, 80, or thereabouts.
Because unlike Star Trek:TOS, which luckily got to run for at least a full three seasons, Universal Studios and the ABC Network quite simply pulled the plug/the proverbial rug, out from under Galactica much, much too quickly. Even worse, they were also ultimately responsible for pretty much ALL of the series' admitted shortcomings right from the very start - in that Glen Larson and company needed an addition year (at the very least) to more fully develop and plan the show, but sadly, all the usual money people (who typically know BIG FAT ZERO SQUAT about actually being creative) were so eager to capitalize on the unexpected mega-success of Star Wars, that they pushed (nay, HOUNDED) the producers, writers, SPFX team behind the scenes, the cast, and the crew, etc, etc. of classic BSG to prematurely rush the show into production.
Now, as far as recasting all the original characters (with the proviso that most, if not all of them, should actually look and behave more or less like the people who originally portrayed them), that, for me, has long been a very tough conclusion to come to. But I finally only arrived at it because I honestly think that fan generated shows like "Star Trek: New Voyages/Phase II" and "Star Trek: Continues" have clearly illustrated in recent years how a classic sci-fi series really should be resurrected. In fact, it would have been infinitely preferable if Richard Hatch had lived long enough to play Adama, with a younger actor who strongly resembles him cast as Apollo, but alas, sadly, that particular ship has now well and truly set sail. May God rest his soul.
At any rate, Starbuck was (and always will be) an incredibly awesome BSG character - played to absolute perfection by Dirk Benedict, no less - but Apollo has always been my personal favorite. But then Boomer has also always been a very close second for me, because I don't know about anyone else, but Herb Jefferson Jr. really did an outstanding job with a secondary (or even tertiary) role that he often didn't even get all that much screen time to play. As a result, I have always thought that, from a hypothetical second season onward, the show could have matured to where the three hottest pilots (Apollo, Starbuck, and Boomer) would be much more central to each week's storyline - instead of the unnecessary (but sometimes very interesting) rivalry between polar opposites (but also close friends for that very same reason), Captain Apollo and Lt. Starbuck. But come to think of it, I guess that actually did happen anyway, but with the Apollo, Starbuck, and Sheba triumvirate. Hmm.
Granted, Star Trek: New Voyages/Phase II has long been notorious for the casting of often amateur actors to reprise the roles played by legendary, high caliber professionals such as Shatner and Nimoy, but that doesn't mean that a classic BSG revival project would have to hire "bad" (or more appropriately, mostly inexperienced) actors. Trust me; put out an authentic, potentially high paying casting call, and I guarantee you that literally thousands of actors, young and old, who could genuinely look and act the respective parts of all the various classic BSG characters would come calling ("with bells on"), just for the chance to actually WORK. Goodness knows, some incredibly talented and/or extremely good looking people never even manage to make it in Tinseltown simply because of... well, all sorts of personal reasons, usually known only to the actors themselves and the relatively small number of all too fallible folks commonly tasked with hastily casting all "the right people" for a given project.
Lastly... gosh, I guess I've done it again, haven't I? But I am quite sure that I have not, in fact, "digressed." Because, as with my initial comment above, the final and omnipresent point is that a beloved sci-fi extravaganza like Battlestar Galactica must be carefully planned and appropriately executed, and a "reboot" is NOT at all necessary. In fact, I guess, if you really think about it, I'm actually arguing for what might be called a "soft reboot." Because really, all the term actually truly means is to restart your computer, and thereby get right back to what you were doing in the first place! It does NOT mean that a given classic TV series or movie franchise has to be "re-imagined" or turned into something that it was clearly never meant to be in the first place. All that said, I 100% agree that "Hollywood is creatively bankrupt." And much is the pity indeed.
The 2004 Galactica series was amazing. I was hoping they would not turn Starbuck into an androgynous, trans, every color of the rainbow, non binary, and Apollo a girl boss or effeminate weaker beta male.
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Perhaps Universal ought to demonstrate some creativity & simply come up with a brand new story instead of going for yet another re-boot.
They just want to stay with what they think will make money, nothing more!
@@battlestarcollectica7106 agreed
Battlestar Galactica has always led a "checkered" existence. If Glen Larson had had his way, ABC would have produced an ongoing series of made-for-tv BSG movies with decent budgets and attentive scripts. We know the network's response to that. The series still enjoyed a strong following but the budget killed it in the end. However, based upon what I heard from a source in Glen Larson's office years ago, a potential second season of BSG would have been more disastrous than fans could imagine.
I’m planning an episode that takes a look at what S2 may have looked like. I agree with you that it’s scary!
@@battlestarcollectica7106 I'm glad I didn't give any spoilers then.
Years ago, I heard rumors of a new remake. I didn't even know it was on Peacock. These subscription channels seem good but will fail in the long run. You have to create hits *all the time* to convince people to pay for yet another subscription. It is too expensive to chase shows that seem appealing. I doubt it had anything to do with the show itself. It needed more marketing, which most of us skip past, and more of a reason to pay for Peacock.
I agree. These networks want instant hits and sure things. Sci-fi is very iffy!
BSG is a story that has been told. Star Wars, Star Trek,Terminator, I'm so sick of Hollywood just re-writing old ideas.
Let these old franchises die. Give us something original
I agree but it’s never going to happen. It’s just easier for studios to rehash old ideas.
Battlestar Galactica was always more popular in Canada than USA.
It’s still a mystery as to why today!! 🤔
2:53 - Star Trek Strange New Worlds does NOT take place in proper Trek. It's just another full blown reboot.
Thanks for the info!
This is literally the first time I'm even hearing about another Battlestar Galactica lol
I’ve been wanting to talk about it for awhile now. Very frustrating for me because I originally had high hopes!
Hey fellow BSG TH-camr! I'm not sure that millions have been spent on the development of this new series, because Sam Esmail only mentioned that he read a great outline (which is not even a full script) in October 2023, and the latest known showrunner, Derek Simonds, was announced just a year ago. Has a pilot episode been directed between this and last summer when we learned that the show was cancelled? It is not impossible, but however highly improbable.
But apart from this, I agree with you and I find interesting that the network wanted a family show when Sam Esmail repeated numerous times that his series would happen in the same universe than Ron Moore's show. If this is the case, the network definitely did not understand the franchise the wanted a new series from.
But I must admit that I never thought of a new series that was a continuation of the original show (this was dead to me since the failure of the BSG The Second Coming attempt), and I must say that this would actually be a very good idea. I'm a huge fan of the reboot, but I also love the original and I speak of both shows in my French podcast. A new series that would be the continuation of the original series would be great, because this one never had a proper ending, and this would avoid the risk of any retcon of the reboot.
From what I’ve been told Universal spent tons of money on this project over 5 years. Many of the people involved have pay and play deals (get paid regardless of what happens). Universal does not care as it’s all a tax write off.
@@battlestarcollectica7106 Oh OK I understand it better. Thank you for your reply.
I loved the 78 BSG as a kid and I loved the reboot as an adult.
However, it is the original 78 version that I keep on putting into my player.
Not because the original show is better, but because it is more episodic in nature.
Its easier to tune in and lose yourself for an hour, vs. the new show which is more of a continuing story.
Strange New Worlds understood this when they went back to a more episodic format over Picard.
But I do think that the new show was better. The shows tagline "All this has happened before and all this will happen again" is true, that pretty much everything that happened in the original show, happened in the new show. But it was presented in a more realistic fashion.
I agree with you! Many criticizing the OG series don’t remember that it was very much a product of the late 1970s when SWs was king.
I agree the reboot was too dark. The original was dark too, but Adama brought light and hope in the midst of tragedy. While I'd like to see something based on the original it would be hard as we don't have many original cast still alive and while the mood of the country is changing it may take a couple of years before they are truly ready for this or for a new SG-1. I could be wrong. Also there is a danger of going in the direction of Picard- saying things just because they can not that it fits into their universe.
I agree with you. I do think that there is a way to produce something new and imaginative within the BSG universe without redoing something that came before.
It's one of the cool comments by a fan in the comments section below. He / she says,'we don't want a 'Battlestar Galactica,' that is 'Approved by NASA,' and he's got it! We want a show like the original Glen A. Larson production, with actual models used to enhance the visual effects by the modern day computers. The dogfights in space should be like the original series just enhanced, but better--when things go by to fast on screen its just hurts the atmosphere and even the grace and beauty of the shots / angles used in the scene.
The Cylons in future series should make slight advancements of their own. Perhaps a third engine design which is used as a 'turbo boost,' to catch up to the Vipers in combat, or they instal a 'turbo boost,' on the two engines they elready have to keep up with the colonial Vipers which causes the 'Galactican,' fleet to make newer, more advanced Vipers to regain their advantage against the Cylon Raiders. Maybe adding a fourth engine, or a fifth for the extra speed. These newer engines could be even more adaptive to space and oxygen atmospheres.
They also need to explain how the cockpits hold on to the rest of the Viper in flight. (Herbert Jeffersen Jr.'s question I believe.)
On another note , why wasn't ''Universal,' prepared with two versions of 'Battlestar Galactica,' one 'Classic,' and the other 'reimagined,' version so the could cover all their Basestars (So to speak).
Lack of planning, or lack of vision?
Would Dirk Benedict or Anne Lockhart or any of the original actors / actresses really ask for that much...?
One of the aspects I did not like in the 'novels,' was that Starbuck and Cassiopeia,' never got married and hade a couple of kids to have links to the classic series... Athena and Greenbean getting married and having kids would make for Adamas descendents to be on / in the new series to re-establish links to the new series, and basically rectifiy a wrong done to Maren Jensen.
There are many at Universal who are actually embarrassed by the OG series. They feel it’s too childish (I guess they have never seen Star Wars). They believe that the only way to go is with a Reboot of the Reboot.
ST:ToS canon carried over to TNG and every other series prior to the movie reboot. I don't imagine many people want a continuation of the original BSG when there are probably more people who recall the 2003 series.
The two most common reasons people would give me for not watching the 2003 series? The first was "I liked the original and don't need to see a reboot of it" and the second was "I didn't like the original and don't need to see a reboot of it."
Yes, the Reboot did create some problems with fans. The problem for Universal is that the only version of the IP making money now is the 1978 series.
I haven’t seen Lorne Green or Dirk Benedict in years. I how cool would that be if they could come back for a few cameos. Guess we will have to wait.
Unfortunately Mr Green passed awsy many years ago and Dirk Benedict is retired. He only does a few public appearances a year now. 😔
@ thanks for the update. I should have known that about Lorne Green. What a solid 70s cast.
Does anyone other than the access media actually care about the 2003 series? I've heard it never got the best ratings when it was on and even today most merchandise that comes out is of the 70s version.
The 30 year olds that work at Universal think that’s what BSG should be. They are clueless!
Never got the best ratings? I understand that the re-imagined version isn't everyone's cup of tea, but it helped the Sy-Fi channel immensely with its high ratings. The Caprica prequel series on the other hand......
@@michealcormier2555 It's tough when you create a new vision and then give it a crappy ending for any other shows in that realm to be successful especially prequels. How long did Blood and Chrome last??? Wasn't it supposed to be a webisode for a future pilot show of a new series???
Ron Moore killed the opportunity for really any other form of the remake to exist and thrive. Ron Moore was the Cylon Imperious Leader who killed off ALL of the humans and thus any further storylines for spin-offs and prequels thus ending his BSG World, forever. LOL.
First 2 seasons were entertaining
FWIW I absolutely LOVE the 2003 series and I think it blows away the original series in just about every way, and I'm in my mid 60's and watched the original series when it first aired. The original started out pretty great but gradually then rapidly went down hill I'm assuming to budget restrictions (constantly reusing the same special effects shots over and over) and weak writing that didn't compensate. I remember back in the day completely loosing interest on an episode where in the first scene a reused shot of a Cylon ship crashing into the Battlestar traps some people in storage room and there was a fire on the other side, and the entire rest of the show was them there the room waiting to be rescued etc. 🤦♂I wanted to watch an interesting sci-fi show that intrigued/surprised me and sparked my imagination, not a pedestrian low budget disaster show about every day situations that could happen in any era. 🤷♂ The high budget, well written, and well acted 2003 series did that for me! 👌🥰👍
Galactica 1980 finished it off ……or maybe make Galactica 2025 and have the Galactica still observing Earth and able to disguise itself from detection in space
That could work!
….and able to defend the Sol -Earth planet from invaders yet have the Galactica have a ‘Prime directive ‘ like non-interference policy in Earths internal affairs yet realize the time is coming when Earth will be ready to make contact. Galactica citizens slowly visit and blend in to different nations and societies.
Based only on what you've said in this video, it seems like the studio had the right idea, and that puling the plug on this version before it aired was a smart decision.
No one wants a bomb and it looks like this new version just wasn’t good.
Universal Studios next move on Battlestar Galactica should be to walk away and develop something new, as in something original. Not another reboot. Two masterpieces were done. No need to revisit.
Agreed!
Strange New Worlds doesn't take place in the original continuity. It takes place in a continuity that starts with Star. Trek Discovery and rendered an alternate continuity by the very last episode of Star Trek Lower Decks!
I just was told that but according to some sources it’s not true?
This is kinda true and not true. Has'nt been outright confirmed by Paramount yet that Discovery is an alternate universe only that the Klingons from Discovery do exist in an alternate timeline. I despise Discovery more than most, but there are plenty of ways that the Discovery Klingons could still unfortunately be cannon. I have also heard that SNW is still canon from the same sources that say Discovey is retconned so.....until Paramount outright confirms, It's still unfortunately cannon.
SNW started with such great promise. I thought they might even rival TNG!
I can't believe how they dropped that ball!
An animated version could be the answer to the call for fans and not a total reboot in general, but a final session of the original set alongside the last journey to Earth in the year 2039, or the 26 century. Not connected to that other series in the 80s, so much, but there's a villain from that turns with a connection to Starbuck. Additionally, there's an intriguing plot with two Starbuks. The old episode where a commander is supposed to be Starbucks' father we never real knows if he died in this story, and so an alternative timeline story could become an option. Starbucks could be intriguingly possible series, a stand-alone series telling the true fate of Starbucks' final years or something completely different in his adventures through the universe towards his destiny and possibly finding his way to a shining Earthly destination. Or revealing both modern and old are part of something of Starbucks legacies from a different perspective, revealing he was a Cylon humanoid?
Starbucks Shadows, the myth of the pilot of the fleet, the original series had him as a joking and friendly wise guy, but his character was a deep hearted hero, someone trusted and someone reliable. But his life story and past had so many secrets. It would be to develop a backstory in his early childhood story, still hiding a few things, but a huge secret of who he really was related to. And he has a twin sister who vanished when they were young. She turns up in an alternative reality? Only a theory..
Very interesting stuff! Thanks for that!
I agree that it would have been a mistake to try doing the dark 2003 bsg thing again. It already exists and there's no way that they could do better than what was already done.
Going with the more space-fantasy style would have been better. People want escape right now, life right now for most people is already "dark and gritty"
Many hardcore fans don’t like a more family friendly show but it’s what needed right now.
@@battlestarcollectica7106 exactly. I totally revere the 2003 BSG even with it's flaws as one of the all time greats but that's because it was OF ITS TIME and it said what it wanted to say for the sociopolitical climate of the 2000s.
Now its two decades later and the context is different and it's time for something else tonally
The thing I can't get by, in regard to the re-imagined series, that weakened the overall story SO much, was that suddenly the Cylons were created by man. That was some pretty unimaginative reimagining -- that old, warn out concept of 'building robots that take us over'. It was present at least as far back as 1950's sci-fi radio. What makes the original Galactica impactful is that Cylons are emotionless, robot-building, reptilian aliens that can take what we have and send us scrambling like mice. You might say that 'that concept' has ALSO been around forever and you would be right. But 'WE' as our own enemy is just not nearly as scary as a more advanced, emotionless alien species, bent on wiping us out like they are exterminating roaches.
The reptile aliens are extinct, the original cylons were robots who rebelled against the aliens. The reboot just cut out the aliens.
@@Halbared Ahhh...I forgot about the Cylon robots turning against their reptilian makers. Thanks for the reminder. The reboot made humans the makers of the robots, right? I still think advance alien tech is more scary than our own. And Cylons looking like us is just not as fun.
@@GooeyGluey Yes the reboot did that. As a kid I always wanted the reptiles to turn up, that might be a good plot point. The Imperious leader used to confuse me too, I thought it was a giant organic brain or summat. I did check and apparently the original idea was for the cylons to be reptiles but killing creatures made the telly channel queasy. I still have my original BSG annual.
Great points! I also didn't like the "human" Cylons, the gender swapping (especially of my two favorite characters), or the vipers firing bullets! There was more I didn't like that added to the reason I only got 3 episodes into the series but you get the idea.
@@Halbared Do you mean those British hardcover 'annuals'? Those books are pretty cool. I have a Galactica one.
Good advice...let's hope it works!
Universal loves making money. Producing something in the OG universe would make them a ton of money!
@@battlestarcollectica7106 I'd be onboard with a 'classic' example of the show, with the same uniforms, etc. I think that would be awesome. Who knows, maybe they'll pull it off.
I have a suggestion if anyone wants to pass it along, maybe they branch out into audio plays, it worked for Doctor Who, Big Finish kept the flame alive between the 1996 Paul McGann movie and the New Series, or they could license it out to a novel series akin to Richard Hatch's novels of the late 90s early 2000s (ok, so that was more than 1 suggestion)
Richard Hatch tried but could not obtain the rights. After his passing it was created without mentioning BSG or any of the shows names. I did an episode on it a few months ago. Please check it out!
@@battlestarcollectica7106 link? I hadn't idea that it was even tried
I couldn't get into the reboot from 2003. In fact ill go on record as saying i hated it. It took a late 70s space opera and changed it to an early 2000s soap opera. Costume design was off the rack from K-Mart and the cylons being created by humans and looking just like humans just came off as lazy! Instead of humanity bonding together to escape an external threat to their existence it became humanity's distrust of each other and being destroyed from within. Maybe if it didn't use the name of Battlestar Galactica and created their own thing (since it only bears a passing resemblance to Battlestar Galactica) then maybe i wouldn't have hated it so much.
I agree. I wish that Universal had done something differently but it is what it is!
the way that bsg ended the franchise makes it impossible to reboot, they kind of really done a number on it the last season with Tye and cheif and anders being cylons and having anders being the jump computer, that just really left a bad taste in most of our mouths. Not sure how you go about rebooting something that was shot in the head.
The first season was very good and then things got a little strange!
@@battlestarcollectica7106 I like it until the last season, when the find the last cylon models and things got strange and stayed strange and I never figure out what starbuck was, was she cylon or something else
@@battlestarcollectica7106 the last season was very strange, and I still want somebody to explain was starbuck a cylon or something else totally?
I wonder what the premise was. Although there were a variety of different projects in development at different times, they pretty consistently said that this would fit in the timeline of the RDM series somehow, and would not be a reboot, more like a revival or a side story or whatever. I do know the cast of the RDM show were pretty universally opposed to this. Still my only interest in the show has been what it would be about. I wasn’t really interested in watching it, I just really wanted to know what story of they thought was worth telling.
I’m going to reserve my thoughts until a script is leaked (you know that will be coming). From what I’ve been told it’s just a remake of the 2003 series.
@ interesting. That’s exactly what they swore they were not gonna do. If he’s you ever come across a script, could you let us know?
I'm a huge fan of the original and the reboot both. I have to say, it sounds as though execs made the right call. A rarity. I don't want the Partridge Family in Space, but we could go with a little less grit and a little more escapism. Hopefully they restart the project from scratch and avoid silly extremes.
I personally think that it’s over for BSG. They really are clueless!