Smovey Rings in Somatic Experiencing with Dr. Peter A. Levine & Dr. Abi Blakeslee

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  • @liloleist5133
    @liloleist5133 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    In most Shamanic Traditions rattles, drums and toning are being used, while the body free form moves and dances (preferably around the transformative energies of fire) in a state of self induced trance. This is the ancient and original way of successfully breaking up/releasing energies for the purpose of healing.

    • @Finne57
      @Finne57 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is there anything for ankles legs?

  • @iamlight1
    @iamlight1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Her eyes are so clear and her face is so luminous. I don't think I would ever have a session with Peter Levine, I'd settle for her.

  • @ileneblaisch2664
    @ileneblaisch2664  5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I apologize if I haven't responded to some of the comments below. I want to say again that this video was made as a continuing education offering for practitioners who have taken the professional Somatic Experiencing training and may not be super useful to the general public. Trauma has been defined as the impact of any adverse event or condition(s) perceived as threatening to one's well being. The automatic, non-conscious reaction (survival responses of fight, flight or freeze) in one's nervous system ramp up, but often don't resolve in completion and remain stuck. In Somatic Experiencing work, the Smovey rings or any tool (e.g. "voo" breath) would not alone be expected to alleviate symptoms of trauma. They can serve to mobilize or calm energy in a pleasant way and therefore may be useful as a self help tool, but deeper healing more often emerges in in the therapeutic relationship between a therapist and client. On a different note, using the Smovey Rings is appropriate for anyone interested in movement, wellness, and fitness. However, I would recommend that if you are dealing with a physical injury or problem it is always best to consult your doctor or physical therapist before starting a new exercise.
    For more on Somatic Experiencing or to find a trained practitioner, please contact The Somatic Experiencing Trauma Institute (www.traumahealiang.org). For more on Smovey RIngs, contact www.smoveyusa.com or me: www.ileneblaisch.com

  • @earthpearl3790
    @earthpearl3790 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Relates profoundly to my personal understanding of embodied experience. Abi's commentary and her use of labels felt spot on!

    • @ileneblaisch2664
      @ileneblaisch2664  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Earth, Thank you for posting your response. Abi is incredible the way she presents information on all kinds of subjects - in fact i just worked with her this weekend in an SE training. Are you a Smovey Ring user? Smovey just came out with a new model called NeuroVIBE which has a stronger vibration and an easier way of swinging them.

  • @agnesagni
    @agnesagni 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I tried the movements by putting about a cup of water in two pieces of one litre bottles, holding them about midway like two dumbbells, just to have an experience of something moving in what I am moving with my hands, also making sounds. It is truly a very interesting sensation. I feel I have sort of “filled” my arms, feel more centred. I am curious to learn more about this technique.

    • @melbel3615
      @melbel3615 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      interesting I may try this.. thanks for sharing.

    • @enlightenedturtle9507
      @enlightenedturtle9507 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No! You need the certified S®o®m®a®t®I®c® E©x©p©e©®®I©e©n©I©n©g© ©® Smoochy © Rings® for it to work!!!!!
      >=[

  • @antjewaxman1020
    @antjewaxman1020 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for sharing, Irene! Very interesting information!

  • @lrd3721
    @lrd3721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't want to be critical of any of these methods or exercises, I'm sure they have some value for some at a place in a person's trauma healing process. But there is a conspicuous, fearful avoiding of something very simple that is fundamental to trauma healing. That is the simple trusting of the body and our being to spontaneously move and make whatever sounds, verbal expressions, and movements are needed to express what was not able to be expressed when the trauma originally happened, which can ideally result in regression, a complete connection with the age of the original experience and what was dissociated from, which was the original pain. Levine has decided and claims that that is necessarily "retraumatizing", and to be avoided at all costs.
    If a person is ready, perhaps this very tame work could lay some foundation to make a person ready. This full letting go is not "retraumatizing", it is healing, and for some of us, really necessary to get to the root, the source of the trauma, and allow the wisdom of our body and being to do what it already knows how to do; to complete and integrate, to reassociate, piece by piece with what was dissociated from. All these trauma modalities, for whatever value they may have, dance around the simple process of allowing the person to fully let go and allow themselves to feel freely. The prospect seems to be terrifying to them.
    I left the comment below on another Peter Levine video:
    *******
    What has worked for me, I’m sure is probably too scary for most trauma survivors to consider, but is safe (with the right experiential foundation), and gets to the very root of the trauma, and undoes the effects, in the short run, and over time, in my experience.
    Pretty much all of the techniques, methods, approaches I’ve seen seem to be about trying to get away from the discomfort, to soothe it away, visualize, tap, self-talk it away. But for me, the issue is that the pain from the original trauma was not fully processed at the time, because of overload of the system, so it is stored in ‘cellular memory’, or ‘body memories’. By fully processed, I mean fully felt, in the body. If a child has a very painful experience and is allowed the full, truthful expression, with a parent or loving adult present, they won’t store the pain, with all its symptoms that cause problems later.
    A brief history: had an alcoholic father and other major dysfunction growing up. In my early twenties, went through a period over some months of trying to heal myself of what I considered ’stomach problems’, and other issues in that general mid area of my body (prostatitis, bladder infection, ulcer, etc,) and back issues, by fasting, restricting my diet, other obsessive-compulsive extreme behaviors (exercise, etc.). Came very close to dying (a few weeks away, a doctor told me). Stopped the behaviors, began to recover, and then began a search for what was wrong with me, what and why it happened.
    Was led to a process that facilitates the connection with and release of the deep pain stored in the body, usually beyond conscious memory. I began to experience real relief/release from my symptoms, physically, emotionally, a feeling of safety (to use Dr. Levine's words), for the first time.
    I discovered, over the course of many months, that I had, as a toddler, been violently and sexually abused by my alcoholic father (in blackout), and experienced abuse from my older brother. Before that, I had no conscious memory of those early experiences.
    So, what I learned to do, at first with a facilitator/lay ‘therapist’, and later on my own, was when the symptoms of trauma arise, in my case, extreme terror, anger, feelings of impending doom, impending violence, instead of trying to get away from them, I learned (in a safe, reasonably soundproof setting) to allow the body to bring the feelings to the surface, and then when the body/emotional body (sometimes referred to as the ‘pain body’) is allowed to fully connect, the body begins to release the pain by fully feeling it, not as an act of will or intention, but completely spontaneously, by letting go into the pain.
    I discovered that what I thought would kill me (fully feeling, going with the pain) when it had a chance to flow, to express itself in its pure truth, that it, like a wave, rose, broke, and dissipated safely, afterwards triggering endorphins to flow, feelings of well being, and deep relaxation to happen naturally. The real suffering was more in the resistance to feeling the feelings. When the pain/the feelings were allowed to fully connect, in the body and being, and begin to flow, it almost felt good (even the most horrendous, unspeakable pain), like I had been waiting to do that all my life. I discovered that the body/our being will only bring to the surface what can be handled at a given time, and then shuts down again.
    So, seemingly paradoxically, but not really, the way to the other side of the extreme, unbearable feelings of discomfort was to go into them, not try to manage, unless I was in a situation where I was not able to process. I could put the pain on a ‘back burner’, and when it was safe, allow myself to feel the feelings, and get release.
    Gentle deep breathing is very helpful to facilitate the flow of feelings, to undo 'freeze', shutdown, a blocked, locked up body.
    What I meant in the opening to this comment by ‘’right experiential foundation’ is needed, is that if a person, a trauma survivor, is able to go through this kind of processing, some kind of security in the present is necessary, primarily I think in the form of at least one person that is truly safe, not abusive, trustworthy (support system; therapist who understands, friend, 12 step support group like Adult Children of Alcoholics and Dysfunctional Families, or other safe support people, though their may be some people to avoid within these groups who are not safe), and some kind of sound spiritual principles (like, but not exclusive to, the 12 steps) to live by. And probably enough experience with those loving, accepting, trustworthy people, to provide a new experience in the present of real safety, very different than whatever abuse or neglect we experienced in childhood.
    Ideally, it probably is necessary, at least in the beginning, and for a while, to be able to be in touch with someone who truly understands, from personal experience, this kind of direct processing/release of deep feelings, deep pain. With time, more and more trust in the process, and the loving, compassionate Higher Power behind and guiding it happens, and we can learn how to do the deep self-care needed (that we didn't learn in childhood) to take care of ourselves on an ongoing basis. When a person opens up, becomes vulnerable to the degree necessary to do this kind of deep processing, when old defenses, dissociation begin to fall away, it is vitally important to avoid reckless exposure to people and situations (usually our original abusers/perpetrators, or other destructive people) to avoid unnecessary overload which can have destructive effects to us, and jam up the flow of our process and progress in our life. If overload happens, we can learn how to move through it and get back on track. But life will happen, and the situations that arise (best not from reckless exposure) will naturally trigger us, and the feelings that arise are the catalyst to access the deeper, 'original' source of the pain.
    Very important; this is not ‘getting out feelings’ characterized by deliberate hitting, screaming, punching a punching bag, etc. This may be useful to facilitate the beginning of getting in touch with feelings, allowing the feelings to begin to flow, but as soon as possible then, to just let go completely and allow the body to take over. It is necessary to have a real connection and release, and integration, for the body/emotional body, to fully connect and move, spontaneously, make sounds on its own (not directed by the will/intention). When this connection happens the sounds, words, movements will be those of whatever age the experience is rooted in, originated. The body/emotional body/our spirit has its own wisdom and knows how to release, process, heal.
    A facilitator, therapist (best someone who has direct experience of this kind of processing) might be important in the beginning but not to do much, mainly just to witness with empathy, to stay out of the way when the feelings begin to flow. Possibly with deep empathy, could help to connect with words, questions, to help trigger a real connection with the feelings, the original pain. But, after a point, talking can also take a person away from the source of their feelings. It is important that the person being present/facilitating is able just to be present with the expression of deep emotional/physical pain, without needing to 'fix' us.
    Wish I could have been briefer in my comment, but felt it important to be clear and as thorough as possible to minimize misunderstanding, if possible. I received criticism of this, my process from a facilitator of the Levine approach, I believe because she did not understand it, or my experience. I was not there (heard it second hand later from my girlfriend at the time, who talked about her understanding of my process) so could not explain, defend it.
    (continued in reply below)

    • @ileneblaisch2664
      @ileneblaisch2664  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hello, I’m sorry for the tardy response. I read the detailed account of your trauma recovery journey, and it's wonderful that you found a way to release/resolve the impact of your trauma history. I’m sorry to hear you felt a criticism (indirectly) from a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner (SEP). Everyone is different in responding to trauma and trauma recovery methods (and practitioners) also differ in their style and specific expertise. Sounds like it was effective to go In “BIG” allowing a full connection to your original experience, with the right support in place to feel safe. I think I understand you to be saying that SE and other methods may avoid dealing with the trauma source (to avoid re-traumatization). I would offer that SE doesn’t avoid or bypass the trauma but facilitates a path to re-experiencing/releasing/integrating the energy in the nervous system related to trauma that may be stuck. The process is guided in a slow and steady manner (often without the need for much talk about the original trauma). This helps the nervous system build capacity to integrate newly felt sensations/emotions. What might be re-traumatizing for one individual could be very different for another. In many ways, your experience sounds similar to what happens in SE. . .usually in smaller, more frequent releases and guided with the help of a practitioner. Wishing you my best, Ilene

  • @katsdeelite1200
    @katsdeelite1200 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is such interesting and exciting information! Thanks for putting it up.

    • @ileneblaisch2664
      @ileneblaisch2664  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are welcome, thanks for the comment! Dr. Blakeslee is a terrific teacher!

  • @idontshakehands
    @idontshakehands 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Ilene! Oh funny this is your channel, I just got my rings out and was just randomly looking for some videos! Thanks again for your help!!! I smiled immediately upon unboxing and feeling the vibration 🙂

    • @ileneblaisch2664
      @ileneblaisch2664  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Caitlyn, I don;t think I ever saw this comment. Nice to see it - hope you're still enjoying the Smoveys. My best, Ilene

  • @lowannahugall2933
    @lowannahugall2933 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great video thank you ❤

  • @nelsonvalderrama8371
    @nelsonvalderrama8371 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Womderful so healing 😍

  • @esperanzacevallos2177
    @esperanzacevallos2177 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great information
    Thanks ❤

  • @Cathy-xi8cb
    @Cathy-xi8cb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Please be sure that your clients have been cleared by their physicians to assess their risk for issues such as rotator cuff injuries and and back strain. While in an emotionally charged state, patients with common co-morbid diagnoses like fibromyalgia may not be as tuned into the degree of stress on their system, or attribute discomfort to their emotional pain. I believe these rings were originally developed to be used by physical therapists after an evaluation, and with instruction and supervision.

    • @ileneblaisch2664
      @ileneblaisch2664  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Cathy, I feel similarly that anyone with a known physical condition should consult with their healthcare provider before introducing a new exercise tool and I’ve commented on this in various Smovey Ring testimonials I have given. The rings were invented by a professional tennis player in Austria who developed an early prototype which helped his Parkinsons’ symptoms; once they were on the market in Europe they became most popular for the “general” exercise community. I have seen many testimonials from experts including physical therapists indicating the rings are a safe tool for general exercise use - naturally we all need to be advised to begin slowly and gently. Smovey Rings are for the most part sold by people who have basic coach training on smovey function and background. In SE practice, we are trained to approach all aspects of the work slowly and gently in a titrated manner. But again, I agree, it’s important to educate about safety. Sincerely, Ilene Blaisch
      Thanks, ilene

  • @Kefaine9
    @Kefaine9 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you recommend the classic smovey rings or the smovey neuro vibes for SE?

  • @MsSingingcindy
    @MsSingingcindy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this video. Going to try some of these.

  • @Finne57
    @Finne57 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about the lower body. Is doesn't seem to activate this much?

  • @melbel3615
    @melbel3615 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is your website down? I have tried 3 different browsers and it says site can't be reached. I will try again later. EDIT: I located you on websearch.... your correct website address is HEALwithvibration.com or as the one listed under this video is healINGwithvibration. Just noting in case others have same issue. thank you.

    • @ileneblaisch2664
      @ileneblaisch2664  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much. I never even noticed that big typo (the website was very new then!). I will change. Feel free to e-mail directly: ileneblaisch@icloud.com

  • @eliort404
    @eliort404 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What do you call trauma? Ptsd? What about early childhood and neglect? Does it work for everyone?

  • @melbel3615
    @melbel3615 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh WOW.... I grew up in San Clemente!!!! :D I no longer live there I am in Northern CA.

  • @christosgray2459
    @christosgray2459 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you, awesome

  • @berniekeith9650
    @berniekeith9650 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can smoovies be repaired,the balls stopped working in one of mine.iI am so disappointed as I like to use mine everyday.any ideas.

  • @boogaria554
    @boogaria554 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Voo sound hasn't done anything for me for my PTSD. I've been doing the Voo sound consistently for 3 months and nothing. Zilch. Waste of time.

    • @liloleist5133
      @liloleist5133 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Personally, I prefer the intuitive approach of Shamanic Healing while using rattles, drums, toning and free form movement to transform traumatic events into empowering experiences.

    • @WestCParallel49
      @WestCParallel49 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This actually has helped me a lot. it helps with stomach constrictions that i have when i am under stress. I was surprised too, because it seemed so silly, but it really helps unconstrict my stomach.

    • @paolo142857
      @paolo142857 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What works for one person often does not work for everyone else. Keep exploring the possibilities, Charli.

    • @kr1221E
      @kr1221E 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your body is just not ready to relax, do you notice the "voo" coming from your chest rather than your gut? That's what's happening to me. My voice also needs to come down a few octaves when I talk. Funny, when I cry, I feel the sobs coming from my stomach, we have to be patient with ourselves, I felt frustrated that my body wasn't revealing stuff, yet my mind was thinking round in circles about fears.

  • @kingtahaa1125
    @kingtahaa1125 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could I do that just with my arms ?

    • @ileneblaisch2664
      @ileneblaisch2664  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello, I’m not sure I understand your question about using just arms. . If you would like to e-mail for further information please feel welcome. Ileneblaisch@icloud.com

  • @s.l.3187
    @s.l.3187 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bitte mit deutschem Untertitel 🙏

  • @enlightenedturtle9507
    @enlightenedturtle9507 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol