Please do include the stories of Indian, Pakistani, Sri Lankan (aka brown skinned Asian) etc. stories too. We've been there and experienced the same bias. We're Asian too.
@@edwardcullen3251 Hi Edward! Thank you for the suggestions. We are a start-up media company and we are aiming to create a platform for the stories of all black and brown people. Send us an email at comrades@chaosandcomrades.com with suggestions. We would love to produce more episodes with the groups you've mentioned. =)
Not really. Unlike asian males, black females are just plain delusional. You constantly give yourself these grandiose titles such as - queen, mother, goddess, boss bee.. and still other groups of non black men aren't impressed. Meanwhile, your counterparts (black men) are the most fetishized group globally, which is why BM have their own genre in porn (BBC). This realization only enhance black females thirst for validation from the same groups of non black males whom have historically voted you least desired. In return you grow jealous and envious of Black men, which is why Blacks are the least married couple in America.
It comes across that you’re complaining why white guys don’t want you but let me ask, would you date an Asian? Judging by the way y’all talk in this video, I highly doubt you’re into Asians either but you expect white guys to want you and if they don’t they’re “racist”? That’s like Tess Holliday saying you’re “fatphobic” because you won’t date her. See the similarities? I’m white and very skinny. I work out 5 times a week but for some reason I can’t seem to get buff like the Insta gays and therefor those type of guys won’t ever go for me (only in very rare circumstances they have). You desire someone who suits your physical standards but you expect that person to not have standards of their own and if they do that’s somehow racist? You gotta work with what you got, not what you don’t have. If I only went after the super hot Insta gays, I’d still be a virgin. Open your mind to other possibilities before you expect others to open theirs
Vous et vos collègues du reportages vous est très obsédé par les hommes blanc, c'est important de décoloniser l'esprit ( c'est un long travail). Si vous arrivez à voir la beauté dans d'autres communautés ; afro-américain, indiens...sûrement vous trouverez quelqu'un pour être heureux.
I am mexican I have dated couple asian guys and our cultures are very different sometimes came to big disagreements but over all not all asian men are submissive. Very unique personalities
This episode was intriguing. It was great to hear about the parallels of their experience to how my own being black although they are both different. This episode needs a follow up topic discussing the "gay culture" and how it excludes so many of us.
I'm southeast Asian men and been dating couple of white girl ,i found them same like girl in general and no special, The only thing I can say is focus on yourself, building your charisma, leadership, Alphatraits, adventurous ,and don't let ANY girl change your mission and purpose , in the end No men in this world remind by how he looks like but by what he done to this world.
This video isn't about Asian men with Eurocentric features and are successful in dating. The average Asian doesn't have Eurocentric features and built like a tank.
I’m a British-Filipino who dated plenty of Asian and Non-Asian girls during my time in NYC , and I’ve had them blatantly tell me that I was more mature, polite and objectively attractive attractive (in terms of my physique) compared to a lot of the Non-Asian blokes they’d dated It just goes to show how dirty Western Media and Entertainment can govern the minds of the general public with how they view good-honest Asian Men. Fingers crossed that the Sessue Hayakawa days come back eventually 🤞
But you can’t help who you’re attracted to and you can’t make yourself be attracted to a group of people just cuz you don’t want to hurt their feelings. I understand why y’all feel disheartened but you gotta work with what you got. I’m a gay twink and as much as I would love to have a super ripped hot boyfriend, I know those guys won’t ever go for me.
One of my black friends kept saying “black people cant be racist” When the day Steve Harvey said that famous racist Asian joke, he’s like “come on it’s just an innocent joke” But when anything happens to black person, he would freak out. (Not just things like blm, H&M. but he would actually think it’s racist for people who speaks another language) That’s just my story, not entirely the topic of the video, but you know how double-standard people can be. If you’re talking about why is there stereotype or discrimination toward Asian (especially Asian male), it might be because they are purposely or unintentionally creating that toxic environment
There needs to be a honest conversation about this as I feel the men in this video are barely scratching the surface. The proximity to whiteness is what Eats away at them and unless they’re honest about it they won’t feel any better about their situation. I say this because the conversations undertone is ‘why won’t white gay men accept me?’ When they talk about their experiences down to how they feel they are seen. All of it seems to be directed at handing out their value to men who won’t validate them in a way they want to be validated. When are POCs actually going to have a conversation amongst themselves as to why we need white gay validation and why we can’t see each other? Black gay men, black trans and cis black women are HIGHLY influential in the gay community yet when we refer to it, the connotations are around white gay fragility. Why is that? Stop pretending that the attitudes of white gay men are the only problem in the community when you actively mantle them on your shelf of insecurities. They just like the rest of us they ain’t that special...
@@seandeep2152 they said almost nothing about attraction to other Asians. The only thing I can say is: "Whites being attracted to other whites. What a shock!"
Unfortunately this is what happens when u grow up in a not so diversse community. I'm asian that grew up in a country side town in Arkansas that was predominantly white. I had ZERO asian classmates from 4th to 6th grade.... all my time there exploring my sexuality and romantic interests has led me to solely seek out white boys...to the point that I wanted to be more white myself. Moving to Chicago in the 7th grade changed my life. My environment was sooo diverse i found myself getting attracted to other POCs like myself. Lots of decolonizing to do but it's such an amazing journey.
I’m circling back onto this video I’ve see last year. Last year I found it hard to face some of these things you ask yourself after being rejected even at the forefront before I ask women out. But in the last year I got to dating a woman outside of my race only to find out that she never plans to be with any life long partners unless they were black even though she was Mexican. That hurt even though I knew most women I’ve encountered feel this way. My subconscious thoughts are spiraling into darker questions but I know at the end of the day I have to move on.
Its mostly an American phenomenon. One of my greatest culture shocks after moving to this country was in realizing American women were the most shallow and spoiled women on this planet. I've traveled across several countries in EU and lived there but never have I encountered women like in the US. Not surprisingly, the American women who showed interest in me often were people from the EU who immigrated here recently. Go figure..
You wouldn't have to feel rejected if you had a preference for your own instead of trying to date out intentionally. Cause let's be honest most Asians want to feel accepted by whites so bad. And they make these videos about not feeling accepted, but no1 ever promised that you would be accepted when you came to this country. But since many of you value the acceptance of whites more than your own, you live life miserable. Look at all the other racial groups in america. Non of them try to fit in with whites. Everybody has built their own communities and now whites are starting to want to fit in into those minority groups.
This is a fascinating video but there's something that I couldn't help but notice. Every single Asian man in this video that talked about an attraction to another man or described a date, exclusively referred to white men. I've seen this in almost every single video that deals with Asians in the lgbtq+ community. They will discuss how hurtful it is that no one wants to date Asians while they themselves ALSO don't want to date Asians (they almost always only want to get with white men).
I am a GWM, and i have never, ever seen an Asian hook up or show any kind of attraction to another Asian male. Same thing, most of the black gay males chase white men, exclusively. What other people do is not what bothers me, but when they whine that you are doing them an injustice by not dating/fucking them, it really annoys me to no end. I am attracted to the kind of guys I grew up with, and i'm Italian. I love Italian men, everything about them. So, I can't wrap my head around groups of guys that don't want their own people. If you don't want your own countrymen, why would anyone want you? Also, don't complain about white men being on the proverbial pedestal when you put them on there!
@@mjbaz1I've been saying this for 20 years. FINALLY other people are speaking up & speaking out about the hypocrisy of these gaysians. Poor pitiful gay asians whining about white men ignoring them when they themselves won't touch their own race or even black men. There are obviously exceptions to this bit the vast majority of gaysians play this same poor pitiful me blame game.
@@mjbaz1 I don't know where you live. Or your experiences with gay Black men. But it's absolutely false that " most " are chasing gay white men. Most gay Black men are not chasing. Nor do they desire white men. Gay Black men are one of the most intra-racial groups around when it comes to who they're dating and sleeping with. Over 80% are are dealing with each other.The vast majority of gay Black men ( over 51% .) Live in the south. I don't know where you're from. Bit you're not speaking facts.
@@seeingbeyondthroughwithmon6323 I live in Southern New Jersey If I go to a gay venue, I am going to one where the majority of the clients are white guys. the ones i am seeking. I admit my experience is limited, I have no reason to go to a place where I will not find the kind of guys I seek. My comments apply to those people in the white majority venues I would frequent.
I am black Jamaican, so like many black Jamaicans I have Chinese ancestry . In America I have found that the only group honestly unwilling to date me are Asians. Something that just was never an issue back home. The sexual politics of gay Asians in America skew white. We all have our preferences or like me no preferences. However Its an interesting dynamic. I would love to see it explored more.
@@mangopudding5979 Two things a 2010 genetic survey of Jamaica found 40% of black Jamaicans (because Jamaica is a multi ethnic society ) showed markers of Chinese ancestry and the history of Jamaica that explains how those markers got there. 1807 Slavery ended in Jamaica. Most formerly enslaved families received crown land to farm and left the plantations. Jamaican slave masters were largely unable to entice or coerce the formerly enslaved population back to work on the plantations. So they imported half a million Chinese men to do the work that the formerly enslaved Africans would not do. Just men no women. Black women made an industry of selling food to those men. A large mixed black and Asian population came out of those interactions they were called derisively chigros. Most were absorbed into the black and mixed race population. Which at that time numbered less than two million people. Asians would continue to migrate to Jamaica for the entire British colonial period, eventually they would would start to bring their own women and a large Chinese community would develop in Jamaica until the 1970's Today meeting Jamaicans with Chinese surnames in JA is a surprise to no one. However the ancestry detected in the genetic survey is no doubt from the half a million men who were brought to work the plantations at the end of slavery . Do you want me to educate you on the Desi brought from India to replace the Chinese workers?
@@clementmckenzie7041 you mean Chinese men in Jamaica married Jamaican women? yes please educate me on Desi brought from India to replace chinese workers in Jamaica.
All these men were very handsome nice and very attractive personable and good guys. I'd date any of them. Shoot I'm half korean and white and I have the same issue... im always told I'm not asian enough or not white enough but that's ok the right person is out there for each and every one of us.
How is this advice? These men won’t admit it but they aren’t attracted to Asians either because all they’re doing is complaining why white men aren’t into them. I’m not attracted to Asians and it has nothing to do with racism, I just don’t find their features attractive. Doesn’t mean I don’t respect them. Pulling the racist card when someone rejects you is like Tess Holliday pulling the fatphobic card when someone rejects her.
The way western influence make people feel sorry for themselves now down to openly begging for dates. I'm born and raised still in Asia. And these people are shameless. I hope you get that pity date you want this is just sad-
Finally someone with common sense. These buffoons wonder why they’re not getting dick? It’s because they are clearly only going after hot white guys and they blame racism for the fact these hot guys don’t want them. None of the men in this video are particularly attractive. This is like Tess Holliday saying you’re fat phobic for not finding her attractive. I don’t find Asian men attractive, not because of racism, I just don’t find them attractive. Their facial features I just don’t find appealing.
In a gay guy and I’ll never understand this. Attractive is attractive, the end. I’m attracted guys from all sorts of different backgrounds and find heaps of Asian men attractive, much like I find Latin, black, white guys attractive as well. 🤷♂️
My fiancé is Asian and I wouldn’t trade him for the world. I’m a little Asian (despite my TH-cam name) LOL. Anyways, I find Asians more attractive than white men ir any other race. Asians are very unique and have a unique culture and other things that those who are not Asian don’t. Plus, Asians are very good in bed. I’d date any one of these men in this video. They’re all handsome. ❤️ even the old guy :)
Sexual racism... are they actually racist because they don't want to date specifically asians because they are asian or simply because the traits they look for in their mates, are not typical (but not necessarily never in) asian males. There is a difference. I am sure they are willing to talk and be friends and work with asians... but if you want to be attractive period... make yourself that way. Even amongst say white people... it's not like all white people are entitled to date each other... being attractive to a person is a huge competition and risk to put yourself out there, and better yourself. Stop hiding behind excuses of a anti-asian agenda and be the best you can be... clearly asian men are getting laid and married... they are not dying out anytime soon as a race and gender.
Challenge mode: being a Gay Asian Top on any Gay Dating/Hookup app. I don't where this stereotype came from where we're supposed to be seen as submissive bottoms came from. I can't even tell if Asian guys on these apps are bottoms just so they can feel loved by society or if they're actually bottoms. When I went to Taiwan, Tokyo, and Hong Kong it was a good mix of sexual roles where guys could just be themselves. Asians in the US however seem to be around 80%.
When Peter said "Birth-gay," I laughed 🤣. For everybody who's heard "I don't date _____," that particular rejection doesn't define you. Keep your head up.
It's not just skin color though. Are you really denying that races look different from one another? I'm a black man and am not attracted to every race/ethnicity and i'm ok with not everyone being attracted to me.
I personally find it ridiculous. These men are complaining why no non Asians don’t want them but it’s clear they only go after hot white guys. They’re pulling the racist card the same way Tess Holliday pulls the fatphobic card if people don’t find her attractive. Regardless of whether these men are Asian, they aren’t very attractive guys and it seems to me they’re only going after super hot Caucasian guys. Im not attracted to Asians, not because of racism cuz I love my Asian friends, I love Asian countries, I love Asian foods but I just don’t find the Asian facial aesthetic appealing. The way their eyes and face is structured just doesn’t turn me on. Doesn’t mean I don’t respect them, I just have a preference. I once go rejected by a guy and he told me “I’m only into black men” does that mean he is racist towards white people? No! It’s just his preference
True, I was like that too. Everything around me was White influenced, so all I knew or thought about was being like, with, or dating White. Thank God, I now got that out of my subconscious. I see beauty in all people.
Not wanting to date Asian IS a preference! Not wanting to date fat people IS a preference! When it comes to sex, you are NOT obligated to have sex with anyone even if they pull the racist card! To the men in this video, when it comes to sex, you are NOT entitled to sex with anyone!
Every culture is unique. Filipino culture isn’t the same as Chinese culture which isn’t the same as Korean culture. But as a whole, the Asian gay man feels either fetishized or less-than. My friend would do anything to have a lifelong husband who is either an Asian national or first generation Asian American/Canadian. What can he do to break through? He is authentic and wants these men to know he’s serious about treating them as individuals and that he’s not looking to have sensual experiences with a bunch of people who are “his type”. Despite being a white man, he would more than likely yield to their culture, He would treat them as they wanted to be treated. He is a very sexually neutral man who enjoys penetrating and penetration. He doesn’t have a type; feminine and masculine, both catch his eye. He is kind of shallow, looks matter to him but beauty is undeniably subjective no matter what society claims. However, if they’re ugly to him on the inside, he’s not going to compromise just because he shares a few interests with them and they are physically attractive. Asian men, just know that not every white man is out there to dominate you or make you feel badly about yourself. There are white western men who could potentially have a strong connection with you and would treat you like his god.
Unfortunately, this stance is still fetishism. it is based upon the unspoken and subconscious assumption that white men have the power to give, or remove grace; sexually and romantically. even submission to another "race" in this instance is still based upon the assumption that they (white men) have the power to pick and choose their roles in relationships. "more than likely yield to their culture" also speaks of the assumed and socially given "options" that are palpable and present in white men - gay or straight. It is apparent that white men have "options;" because they have been lead to believe that they do; while having said "options" pander to them because that is what they ("minorities") have also been lead to believe and do. You also mentioned your friend is looking for "first generation" or equivalent. Im assuming this is a veiled way of saying that they (your friend) are looking for an Asian accent, fixed cultural ways ("exotic" ways of being) -- and that "off the boat" vibe. Which implies fetishism....as well! You also mentioned the feminine/masculine both catching your friends eye. which implies what you really meant to say was "calling all Femme Asian men, its ok...you will still get f***** but not treated like an Asian Bottom publicly.. LOL omg. And lastly; The parting message to Asian men was unwarranted. Asian men dont need you to tell them this. You are playing the role of "friendly European trying to convince Pocahontas that..the white man with his eye on her means her no harm and will treat her right." Asian men are very aware that not every white man out there is trying to do what you said. But the implications of your entire statement do more harm that good. Because it confirms EVERYTHING that brown skin is used to . And on your end Im sure you may have assumed you were doing the right thing by making that statement. This is in no way an attack on you or your friend. It was just pertinent to reply beacause you inadvertantly confirmed the same things this video (and ethnic dating experience in general) have already touched on...and personally experienced. Am I Asian? No. I am Black. but I felt the need to comment because if you switch a few words out that were typed; this is the same statement given to Black men. and one more thing: Treating someone like a "God" is objectivity and fetishism. Every statement you made (even if made with good intentions) further proves what Asian men go through........
You even had the gall of speaking on the Asian man as a whole -- when you are not and will never be an Asian Man. You stated "But as a whole, the Asian gay man feels either fetishized or less-than" ---- This is "White Privilege" at its best! I do not intend to be inflammatory. but its best to unpack many things if one calls themselves an ally or supporter. because often what said ally is supporting is their own ego and their own LUST at the end of the day. You have no right or bearing to have made such a statement. But this is what liberties are taken by people who are not socially considered to be "ethnic."
What do y'all care what white people think of you? Stop chasing people that are not interested in you and love yourselves enough to want to have a relationship and sex with another Asian person.
@@BardofsongBut why do y'all chase white men & put them on pedestals-then turn around & accuse them of white privilege??? You created the white privilege in your Asian minds.
One guy said that it’s a learned behavior. I don’t want to date someone I have to learn to like. Prefs are prefs that’s it. Btw I would date Asian but there are other races I wouldn’t
Ya. As a gaysian, I've had my share of rejections due to racial "preferences"... even from other gaysians... Lol. Of course, it's disheartening. But... the ideal hunk is muscular and white (or black with a big cock)... and gaysians are very low on the desirability tier. I've even had someone tell me that I'm not asian enough... that my dick isn't big enough... that I look like a top but I'm more of a bottom... ha ha ha... Sigh... When it comes to sexual attraction, people can be fickle and horrible... Conversely though, I've rejected guys because they just didn't turn me on... and it had nothing to do with race... it was more about personality... I really don't care about race... it's more about the person: it really comes down to ➡️ do I find them interesting and sexy? and vice versa... In a perfect world, maybe it would be great if we can get over the whole race thing... but the world is shit.
Commentaries like this are too few and far between. However, are there any commentaries out there with both gay/non-gay Asian men, and of more Asian nationalities?
Here I am. I am Japanese having grown up in Japan and living and working abroad for professional reasons (most likely retiring in Japan without seeking migration). My comments : I see how poorly Western media has projected the image of Asian men (or ignored totally) to the extent of making them feel marginalised. It seems unnatural for them to be made feel "less", when looked from outsiders. It is funny that in Japan, the white men are often regarded less attractive for different reasons (associated with philosophical immaturity, lack of cleanliness and hygienic standards/ communication skills/ emotional intelligence, colonial past, and unpleasantly dominant attitudes as a sign of ignorance). The only solution : To travel widely outside where he or she grew up to open up one's mind courageously so we can see things differently and more individually and be free from those unnaturally imposed stereotypes. This is necessary not only for the Eastners to the West and the South, but also for the Westerners to the East and the South.
I'm an older Greek/Korean but I look more Asian. It is true we're marginalized more---sad. I hope one day we can be in the spot light like black men. Bottom line, it's hard to be a minority within a minority.
Definitely felt this growing up, I grew up in a predominantly white community. As such I had a preference for white girls. I had my glow up very late (at 26-27) but I noticed that once you reach a certain level of "looks" or attractiveness, it doesn't matter what race you are :)
I’m a straight Filipino guy. I went on a date with a girl who said she doesn’t date Asians, and she got hella defensive when I called her out for being racist. Some people might think that’s just a preference, but you can’t just reduce someone to their race/ethnicity. Anyone agree or disagree?
Disagree. When it comes to dating, you can be as racist as you want. Preference is not a choice, and when it comes to choosing a lifetime partner, you have to be sure that you're comfortable being with him/her.
@@ShadowbannedAccount Thats VERY SELFISH So you dont care at all if that person is comfortable being with you? Sounds like you dont even see them as human at all. You the one who get to choose? Lmao NO
@@mmmppp5119 I said NOTHING of what you responded to, but this is to be expected on the Internet. After all, the overall average IQ in the US just dropped by 7 points.
@@mmmppp5119 bahaha It's selfish to date those youre physically attracted to?? I can see why you've got so many issues finding dates- besides being physically undesirable, you're mentally challenged/disturbed It's not a mystery why they won't come near you, champ
Hakka pride! In regards to the first interviewee surnamed with the Chinese Hakka "Chin!" Fuck yeah! Also, next time it would be thoughtful to label those who are straight just as the "gays" were indicated/labelled. Go lgbt pride btw. It's not like viewers can just assume that oh, it's heteronormative society, so unlabelled means straight, no dawg, be consistent, u know? Peace and love!
I feel quilty for preferring asian men. And not liking some other certain people… I won’t say what kind of people but I feel quilty. And also I feel bad cuz I follow asian media and it might make me seem like fetishizer but I like other races too. 😬
I've always wanted to date an Asian top but they were never interested in me for some reason I've been wanting to date a Asian person for years because I find the culture fun funny and very adventurous but no Asian top wants to date me at all I'm so heartbroken
They're just insecure about it. First of all, they're immigrants and they expect nothing good will happen to them personally (professionally, it's their field to make money lol) second of all, try traveling to Asia or southeast Asia. Most of us will feel lucky to date wf. But yeah, only dating I get it. We Asians want marriage, not a test drive dating.
Well, women have more chance because men do all the hard work. Also, men are naturally attracted to looks. No matter what race is the women, they'll bang her. Unlike women, race is important in preference.
This is too bad. I dream day and night of a Chinese, Korean, or Japanese husband. I don’t understand because I would like to date more Asian men but they hate that I have a “type”. It’s like if you’re not white you look for anything to be offended. These men are saying they are experiencing exclusion but as an Arabic white man, all I experience is exclusion because I’m not a minority. See?! Rice queen! This culture of “racism awareness” is so rigged that we’re damned if we do and damned if we don’t. It’s a road of destruction. The entire culture is rigged to keep us divided no matter what we do to remain United.
Notice how you failed to mention South Asian when you said you are open to dating Asian men. Somehow they aren't Asian enough or what? The problem is that when you auto reject an entire "type" without even giving them a chance, you're no different than the whites who do the same by excluding Asians as a whole. You're reducing them to a 'type' without realizing everyone has their own personalities in this group. You fail to see them beyond the type you have reduced them to. People need to be more open and learn to love differences in features instead of having a narrow preference. Its bordering on fetishization
@@Ghostrider-ul7xn or people can have their own preferences. What a weird world we live in where people are now shamed into dating other people. And i'm a black dude saying this. Yikes.
@@thelonercoder5816 Your racial identity is irrelevant, what matters is evidence and reason. Your preferences can indeed come from a place of racial bias and it can be discriminatory. There's plenty of quantitative and qualitative evidence supporting it. Your preferences aren't created in vacuum. Its mostly conditioned through predominant beauty standards that you're exposed to. There's no one on this planet who is neurologically wired such that they can't be attracted to all individuals of a given race because there's enough variation in the said racial population than in between racial groups. That's the reason why race is called a social construct. The average person isn't exposed to the diversity of human population around the world. So If someone rules out an entire racial/ethnic group before even interacting with/exposing to every one of them, it can only be because of aversions that operate on a different level to raw sexual attraction. If you turn a group of people into a monolith and a totality based on few traits you assume that is shared in that group, and then reject that on the basis of not liking it, then yes, that's pretty much the textbook definition of prejudice. There's no way around it.
@@thelonercoder5816 "I'm not going to force anyone to be attracted to anyone" Non sequitur. That doesn't logically follow from what I said at all. Asking people to give everyone a FAIR consideration before they decide whom to date =/= forcing someone to be attracted. "No one can help who they are attracted to" This isn't quite true as people want to believe. There's overwhelming evidence that shows attraction can gradually build with enough positive exposure. Learn more about exposure effect. Do you seriously think everyone in a relationship stay in relationship because they are attracted to their spouses 24/7? Lol you've much to learn about relationships. People fall in love and CHOOSE to stay in love. All you need is self motivation and an open mind to find the good parts of someone that makes them attractive. Biggest evidence is in arranged marriages that show love can grow stronger between strangers even after marriage. So, no, its not that plain and simple. You really need to educate lot more on the social psychology of attraction.
@@rainynight8385 This is what we are talking about. In white films, a weak white character is almost always opposed to a strong, heroic white character, and a weak, clown black is opposed to a pure-hearted black genius. For Asians, in 99% of cases, there is always one role - the role of a weak clown or the role of a nerd, or the role of a martial arts expert, who for some reason often loses to white or black. That's the whole role for Asians in the West. Such videos about gays Asians only emphasize all the condescending and dismissive attitude towards Asian men in the West. I wonder whose ingenious idea it was to tell about stereotypes about Asian men using the example of gay Asians. Lol.
@@offilawnoone9020 true, in indonesia that’s very important about role. TOP can’t be with with TOP, and BOTTOM can’t be with BOTTOM. role in a countries such as like thailand, philippines, indonesia role is everything.
Asia includes the middle east central asia south asia east asia and north asia. I know that east asians and some south asians have had problems with discrimination but what about all the others
@@wegood563 That's not true. Out of 85% of All Asian Americans, 23% of them are Chinese and 20% of them are Indians so roughly the same in size. These 2 are the largest Asian population in US. Even assuming this isn't the case, why shouldn't they be part of a conversation about discrimination, especially since they experience discrimination the most, just because they are a smaller group? That doesn't make sense
@@Ghostrider-ul7xn I think when people picture a typical ‘Asian’ they think of an East Asian face. Indian they’d just call Indian straight up. It’s wrong in terms of wording but that’s just how it is right now
@ebonhawk Pakistanis? There is no Pakistanis in America. Come to the UK. Every block you'll see white and black girls with Pakistani boys. From women liked princess diana to Britney Spears have dated Pakistani boys in the UK. Half of the street girls in my area are with Pakistanis. They don't even need dating sites. They do it in real time.
I like Chinese men. Not all Chinese. More like the southern type. Like thai, or spanish, or vietnamese. Can't say. Like the guy in the whiteblack polo shirt. Or Tom Daley, or Owen Jones.
@@peterpalmato467 They're racist? Have you even watched the video? Their preference were influenced by their environment or the whitewashed media. Sounds to me you're just another one of those ppl painting Asians as racists to justify your own xenophobia. That's a really common scapegoat, especially in corona-season.
That's a lie Asian men do date each other/be with each other. It's just the Asian population in some places is very very small. You might have 100 partners to choose from while they might have just 15. That's forces people to look outside the box.
@@dimxlights380 Nobody if it's based on their race. Especially whites. When's the last time you heard mainstream media glorifying white features anyway. It's ok to say black is beautiful, though.
You meant the smooth white asian facial features that koreans have? If that's the case, you should admire korean only. Some SEA people have "dirty" facial features due to genetics. By I mean dirty, I am genetically born with big pores and oily skin (done research, it's genetic hormone and not curable).
There’s no such thing as sexual racism. When it comes to sex, you can be as discriminatory as you want because nobody is entitled to sex with you and pulling the racist card is just a pathetic excuse. I just don’t find Asian men attractive and it’s got nothing to do with racism. These men saying white guys won’t date them cuz they’re racist is like Tess Holliday calling you fatphobic for not wanting to date her.
@benjaminfranklinthe180th4 That's not necessarily true. I saw some studies a few years back that showed people strong racial bias in dating tended to strong racial bias outside dating. Your right though technically outside of government or employment people are allowed to be racist. It's just in highly liberal areas it looks very jarring to see people scream rights for this or that group then do something like this.... 😂
I'd hardly call it racism or even blame racism I think that's a bit ridiculous honestly. Even Asian woman find Asian men the least attractive group so...? It literally doesn't make sense. I mean self loathing can only go so far. Not to say actual direct racism isn't a part of the picture. That obviously is real. But I don't think it's helpful to label someone a bigot simply for an actual preference. I mean imagine for example I called you a bigot for not liking my ginger hair. Let's be honest. Most people don't like it. It's unfortunate things don't work out equally..But the odds of things being equal are actually very small. Of course if you actually bother to gather the data on things you will find imbalances/inequalities. They aren't inherently bad. They just aren't inherently good either. What do you actually intend to do to equalise this outcome? Seriously?
And you don't find it strange that Asian women in Western countries find white men (and only white men - if you're brown or darker, you can forget it) more attractive than men of their own race, when Asian women in Asian countries don't have such a 'preference' and other women of color also don't have such a skewed preference towards white men? The thought that Asian women (and gay Asian men, for that matter) in Western countries could be whitewashed and racist/prejudiced against their own race never once occurred to you? Really? The whole point is not to equalize the outcome, obviously, but to spread the rather self-evident message that attraction is not created or realized in a vacuum. What we find attractive is determined by what we see around us and more generally what society tells us is attractive. If you think that only a certain race is attractive, ask yourself why.
In Japan, Asians are more preferred than white due to negative stereotypes against the white. This clip is about how Asian Americans are treated in the 'local' American society, while not to be universalised to elsewhere.
@@ninjapirate123 I really don't know you that well to answer that. But let's say I've dated or parternered with almost every Asian race from Chinese, Japanese, Indonesian, Korean, Vietnamese, Filipino, Thai, Malaysian and more.
Tbh most Asians I've seen is unattractive, and that's even with fitness. Also the attitude is not a good look. So yeah look wise and attitude which is the biggest contribution to why Asian is not attractive. ⁷
Please do include the stories of Indian, Pakistani, Sri Lankan (aka brown skinned Asian) etc. stories too. We've been there and experienced the same bias. We're Asian too.
EXACTLY. IT'S ALWAYS CHINESE ETC. NEVER INDIANS AND PAKISTANIS ETC
@@edwardcullen3251 Hi Edward! Thank you for the suggestions. We are a start-up media company and we are aiming to create a platform for the stories of all black and brown people. Send us an email at comrades@chaosandcomrades.com with suggestions. We would love to produce more episodes with the groups you've mentioned. =)
@SNK STFU... It's just that the Chinese came first to American. In the UK were the Asians.
OMG you are so WoKe
Exactly. I've noticed that whenever most people talk about Asians, they exclude Indians from the group as if we aren't part of Asians lol.
A lot of Black women can probably relate to this.
Unfortunately most black women are chasing the limelight. And there are only handful of black women that could appreciate Asian men
@Ozell Israelite nowadays it's changing. Open your eyes
Cuz we don't want to get beaten up.
Yeh
Not really. Unlike asian males, black females are just plain delusional. You constantly give yourself these grandiose titles such as - queen, mother, goddess, boss bee.. and still other groups of non black men aren't impressed. Meanwhile, your counterparts (black men) are the most fetishized group globally, which is why BM have their own genre in porn (BBC). This realization only enhance black females thirst for validation from the same groups of non black males whom have historically voted you least desired. In return you grow jealous and envious of Black men, which is why Blacks are the least married couple in America.
i enjoyed being part of the series! These are stories that need to be told!
It comes across that you’re complaining why white guys don’t want you but let me ask, would you date an Asian? Judging by the way y’all talk in this video, I highly doubt you’re into Asians either but you expect white guys to want you and if they don’t they’re “racist”? That’s like Tess Holliday saying you’re “fatphobic” because you won’t date her. See the similarities?
I’m white and very skinny. I work out 5 times a week but for some reason I can’t seem to get buff like the Insta gays and therefor those type of guys won’t ever go for me (only in very rare circumstances they have). You desire someone who suits your physical standards but you expect that person to not have standards of their own and if they do that’s somehow racist?
You gotta work with what you got, not what you don’t have. If I only went after the super hot Insta gays, I’d still be a virgin.
Open your mind to other possibilities before you expect others to open theirs
Vous et vos collègues du reportages vous est très obsédé par les hommes blanc, c'est important de décoloniser l'esprit ( c'est un long travail). Si vous arrivez à voir la beauté dans d'autres communautés ; afro-américain, indiens...sûrement vous trouverez quelqu'un pour être heureux.
I am mexican I have dated couple asian guys and our cultures are very different sometimes came to big disagreements but over all not all asian men are submissive. Very unique personalities
This episode was intriguing. It was great to hear about the parallels of their experience to how my own being black although they are both different. This episode needs a follow up topic discussing the "gay culture" and how it excludes so many of us.
I'm southeast Asian men and been dating couple of white girl ,i found them same like girl in general and no special,
The only thing I can say is focus on yourself, building your charisma, leadership, Alphatraits, adventurous ,and don't let ANY girl change your mission and purpose ,
in the end No men in this world remind by how he looks like but by what he done to this world.
You also look lik a stud! Good shit bro
Kalo badan kekar kaya mas sih bule kepincut dan faktanya orang asia tenggara lebih attractive bagi mereka ketimbang orang asia timur
This video isn't about Asian men with Eurocentric features and are successful in dating. The average Asian doesn't have Eurocentric features and built like a tank.
@@fathanh3578 emang badannya gimana bang? Gw lagi kepikiran nyari bini bule, soalnya cewe gen z di indo pada nyariin oppa2 korea semua 😂
I’m a British-Filipino who dated plenty of Asian and Non-Asian girls during my time in NYC , and I’ve had them blatantly tell me that I was more mature, polite and objectively attractive attractive (in terms of my physique) compared to a lot of the Non-Asian blokes they’d dated
It just goes to show how dirty Western Media and Entertainment can govern the minds of the general public with how they view good-honest Asian Men.
Fingers crossed that the Sessue Hayakawa days come back eventually 🤞
But you can’t help who you’re attracted to and you can’t make yourself be attracted to a group of people just cuz you don’t want to hurt their feelings. I understand why y’all feel disheartened but you gotta work with what you got. I’m a gay twink and as much as I would love to have a super ripped hot boyfriend, I know those guys won’t ever go for me.
Ok. Should I move to the west? I live in Southeast Asia.
One of my black friends kept saying “black people cant be racist”
When the day Steve Harvey said that famous racist Asian joke, he’s like “come on it’s just an innocent joke”
But when anything happens to black person, he would freak out. (Not just things like blm, H&M. but he would actually think it’s racist for people who speaks another language)
That’s just my story, not entirely the topic of the video, but you know how double-standard people can be. If you’re talking about why is there stereotype or discrimination toward Asian (especially Asian male), it might be because they are purposely or unintentionally creating that toxic environment
There needs to be a honest conversation about this as I feel the men in this video are barely scratching the surface.
The proximity to whiteness is what Eats away at them and unless they’re honest about it they won’t feel any better about their situation.
I say this because the conversations undertone is ‘why won’t white gay men accept me?’
When they talk about their experiences down to how they feel they are seen.
All of it seems to be directed at handing out their value to men who won’t validate them in a way they want to be validated.
When are POCs actually going to have a conversation amongst themselves as to why we need white gay validation and why we can’t see each other?
Black gay men, black trans and cis black women are HIGHLY influential in the gay community yet when we refer to it, the connotations are around white gay fragility. Why is that?
Stop pretending that the attitudes of white gay men are the only problem in the community when you actively mantle them on your shelf of insecurities.
They just like the rest of us they ain’t that special...
You nailed it. They all are whining about the lack of white male validation. They really need to look deep inside their own self-loathing behaviors.
@@seandeep2152 they said almost nothing about attraction to other Asians. The only thing I can say is: "Whites being attracted to other whites. What a shock!"
You hit the nail on the head. It’s hard to feel sympathy for these men.
Unfortunately this is what happens when u grow up in a not so diversse community. I'm asian that grew up in a country side town in Arkansas that was predominantly white. I had ZERO asian classmates from 4th to 6th grade.... all my time there exploring my sexuality and romantic interests has led me to solely seek out white boys...to the point that I wanted to be more white myself. Moving to Chicago in the 7th grade changed my life. My environment was sooo diverse i found myself getting attracted to other POCs like myself. Lots of decolonizing to do but it's such an amazing journey.
@@Caramelboii91pathetic
Black woman here, grew up around Asians, and that's the reason why a lot of Asian males may be attractive to me but why I would never date one.
Most asian men doesn't date black women either
@@ninjapirate123I found the incel
Really great interview. Look forward to the next one 😊😊
Thank you! Stay tuned (subscribe) for more. =)
I’m circling back onto this video I’ve see last year. Last year I found it hard to face some of these things you ask yourself after being rejected even at the forefront before I ask women out. But in the last year I got to dating a woman outside of my race only to find out that she never plans to be with any life long partners unless they were black even though she was Mexican. That hurt even though I knew most women I’ve encountered feel this way. My subconscious thoughts are spiraling into darker questions but I know at the end of the day I have to move on.
Its mostly an American phenomenon. One of my greatest culture shocks after moving to this country was in realizing American women were the most shallow and spoiled women on this planet. I've traveled across several countries in EU and lived there but never have I encountered women like in the US. Not surprisingly, the American women who showed interest in me often were people from the EU who immigrated here recently. Go figure..
You wouldn't have to feel rejected if you had a preference for your own instead of trying to date out intentionally. Cause let's be honest most Asians want to feel accepted by whites so bad. And they make these videos about not feeling accepted, but no1 ever promised that you would be accepted when you came to this country. But since many of you value the acceptance of whites more than your own, you live life miserable. Look at all the other racial groups in america. Non of them try to fit in with whites. Everybody has built their own communities and now whites are starting to want to fit in into those minority groups.
This is a fascinating video but there's something that I couldn't help but notice. Every single Asian man in this video that talked about an attraction to another man or described a date, exclusively referred to white men. I've seen this in almost every single video that deals with Asians in the lgbtq+ community. They will discuss how hurtful it is that no one wants to date Asians while they themselves ALSO don't want to date Asians (they almost always only want to get with white men).
I am a GWM, and i have never, ever seen an Asian hook up or show any kind of attraction to another Asian male. Same thing, most of the black gay males chase white men, exclusively. What other people do is not what bothers me, but when they whine that you are doing them an injustice by not dating/fucking them, it really annoys me to no end. I am attracted to the kind of guys I grew up with, and i'm Italian. I love Italian men, everything about them. So, I can't wrap my head around groups of guys that don't want their own people. If you don't want your own countrymen, why would anyone want you? Also, don't complain about white men being on the proverbial pedestal when you put them on there!
@@mjbaz1I've been saying this for 20 years. FINALLY other people are speaking up & speaking out about the hypocrisy of these gaysians. Poor pitiful gay asians whining about white men ignoring them when they themselves won't touch their own race or even black men. There are obviously exceptions to this bit the vast majority of gaysians play this same poor pitiful me blame game.
@@mjbaz1 I don't know where you live. Or your experiences with gay Black men. But it's absolutely false that " most " are chasing gay white men. Most gay Black men are not chasing. Nor do they desire white men. Gay Black men are one of the most intra-racial groups around when it comes to who they're dating and sleeping with. Over 80% are are dealing with each other.The vast majority of gay Black men ( over 51% .) Live in the south. I don't know where you're from. Bit you're not speaking facts.
@@seeingbeyondthroughwithmon6323 I live in Southern New Jersey If I go to a gay venue, I am going to one where the majority of the clients are white guys. the ones i am seeking. I admit my experience is limited, I have no reason to go to a place where I will not find the kind of guys I seek. My comments apply to those people in the white majority venues I would frequent.
I am black Jamaican, so like many black Jamaicans I have Chinese ancestry . In America I have found that the only group honestly unwilling to date me are Asians. Something that just was never an issue back home. The sexual politics of gay Asians in America skew white. We all have our preferences or like me no preferences. However Its an interesting dynamic. I would love to see it explored more.
Jamaicans don't have Chinese ancestry.
@@mangopudding5979 and you are basing that assertion on what???
@@clementmckenzie7041 what makes you think Jamaicans have Chinese ancestry? Please explain.
@@mangopudding5979 Two things a 2010 genetic survey of Jamaica found 40% of black Jamaicans (because Jamaica is a multi ethnic society ) showed markers of Chinese ancestry and the history of Jamaica that explains how those markers got there. 1807 Slavery ended in Jamaica. Most formerly enslaved families received crown land to farm and left the plantations. Jamaican slave masters were largely unable to entice or coerce the formerly enslaved population back to work on the plantations. So they imported half a million Chinese men to do the work that the formerly enslaved Africans would not do. Just men no women. Black women made an industry of selling food to those men. A large mixed black and Asian population came out of those interactions they were called derisively chigros. Most were absorbed into the black and mixed race population. Which at that time numbered less than two million people. Asians would continue to migrate to Jamaica for the entire British colonial period, eventually they would would start to bring their own women and a large Chinese community would develop in Jamaica until the 1970's Today meeting Jamaicans with Chinese surnames in JA is a surprise to no one. However the ancestry detected in the genetic survey is no doubt from the half a million men who were brought to work the plantations at the end of slavery . Do you want me to educate you on the Desi brought from India to replace the Chinese workers?
@@clementmckenzie7041 you mean Chinese men in Jamaica married Jamaican women? yes please educate me on Desi brought from India to replace chinese workers in Jamaica.
All these men were very handsome nice and very attractive personable and good guys. I'd date any of them. Shoot I'm half korean and white and I have the same issue... im always told I'm not asian enough or not white enough but that's ok the right person is out there for each and every one of us.
Might need to tag this as an advice video for gay men
That's what I was thinking...
Let's talk about STRAIGHT ASIAN MEN
How is this advice? These men won’t admit it but they aren’t attracted to Asians either because all they’re doing is complaining why white men aren’t into them. I’m not attracted to Asians and it has nothing to do with racism, I just don’t find their features attractive. Doesn’t mean I don’t respect them. Pulling the racist card when someone rejects you is like Tess Holliday pulling the fatphobic card when someone rejects her.
The way western influence make people feel sorry for themselves now down to openly begging for dates. I'm born and raised still in Asia. And these people are shameless.
I hope you get that pity date you want this is just sad-
Finally someone with common sense. These buffoons wonder why they’re not getting dick? It’s because they are clearly only
going after hot white guys and they blame racism for the fact these hot guys don’t want them. None of the men in this video are particularly attractive. This is like Tess Holliday saying you’re fat phobic for not finding her attractive.
I don’t find Asian men attractive, not because of racism, I just don’t find them attractive. Their facial features I just don’t find appealing.
In a gay guy and I’ll never understand this. Attractive is attractive, the end.
I’m attracted guys from all sorts of different backgrounds and find heaps of Asian men attractive, much like I find Latin, black, white guys attractive as well. 🤷♂️
My fiancé is Asian and I wouldn’t trade him for the world. I’m a little Asian (despite my TH-cam name) LOL. Anyways, I find Asians more attractive than white men ir any other race. Asians are very unique and have a unique culture and other things that those who are not Asian don’t. Plus, Asians are very good in bed. I’d date any one of these men in this video. They’re all handsome. ❤️ even the old guy :)
Sexual racism... are they actually racist because they don't want to date specifically asians because they are asian or simply because the traits they look for in their mates, are not typical (but not necessarily never in) asian males. There is a difference. I am sure they are willing to talk and be friends and work with asians... but if you want to be attractive period... make yourself that way. Even amongst say white people... it's not like all white people are entitled to date each other... being attractive to a person is a huge competition and risk to put yourself out there, and better yourself. Stop hiding behind excuses of a anti-asian agenda and be the best you can be... clearly asian men are getting laid and married... they are not dying out anytime soon as a race and gender.
Challenge mode: being a Gay Asian Top on any Gay Dating/Hookup app. I don't where this stereotype came from where we're supposed to be seen as submissive bottoms came from. I can't even tell if Asian guys on these apps are bottoms just so they can feel loved by society or if they're actually bottoms. When I went to Taiwan, Tokyo, and Hong Kong it was a good mix of sexual roles where guys could just be themselves. Asians in the US however seem to be around 80%.
When Peter said "Birth-gay," I laughed 🤣. For everybody who's heard "I don't date _____," that particular rejection doesn't define you. Keep your head up.
Don’t put value in a bigot’s opinion 🥳
A preference should be the way someone acts not their damn skin color or race smh
Or gender ...
Visual preferences are not unimportant to humans. Sorry
say that to the far eastern asians
It's not just skin color though. Are you really denying that races look different from one another? I'm a black man and am not attracted to every race/ethnicity and i'm ok with not everyone being attracted to me.
@@MrDaylight aren’t you ashamed to say that
I feel so seen, this was great - thanks!
I don't how it is to be black and gay in the US, but being black and gay in Brazil, I can definitely relate to this.
Really? Seem like it wouldn't be a problem down there?
It's a problem by design, often their own
As a black woman, I find this video fascinating, Thank you for posting this---I learned a lot.
I personally find it ridiculous. These men are complaining why no non Asians don’t want them but it’s clear they only go after hot white guys. They’re pulling the racist card the same way Tess Holliday pulls the fatphobic card if people don’t find her attractive.
Regardless of whether these men are Asian, they aren’t very attractive guys and it seems to me they’re only going after super hot Caucasian guys. Im not attracted to Asians, not because of racism cuz I love my Asian friends, I love Asian countries, I love Asian foods but I just don’t find the Asian facial aesthetic appealing. The way their eyes and face is structured just doesn’t turn me on. Doesn’t mean I don’t respect them, I just have a preference.
I once go rejected by a guy and he told me “I’m only into black men” does that mean he is racist towards white people? No! It’s just his preference
Fk maybe u guys should put gay in the headline don't just make everyone assume bc their Asian their gay wtf... False advertising smh
True, I was like that too. Everything around me was White influenced, so all I knew or thought about was being like, with, or dating White.
Thank God, I now got that out of my subconscious. I see beauty in all people.
Not wanting to date Asian IS a preference! Not wanting to date fat people IS a preference! When it comes to sex, you are NOT obligated to have sex with anyone even if they pull the racist card!
To the men in this video, when it comes to sex, you are NOT entitled to sex with anyone!
Look, you either be open minded or cease to exist!
I wrote on my profile "no vegan / vegetarians / no halal-only eaters"
Edgelord
Every culture is unique. Filipino culture isn’t the same as Chinese culture which isn’t the same as Korean culture. But as a whole, the Asian gay man feels either fetishized or less-than. My friend would do anything to have a lifelong husband who is either an Asian national or first generation Asian American/Canadian.
What can he do to break through? He is authentic and wants these men to know he’s serious about treating them as individuals and that he’s not looking to have sensual experiences with a bunch of people who are “his type”. Despite being a white man, he would more than likely yield to their culture, He would treat them as they wanted to be treated. He is a very sexually neutral man who enjoys penetrating and penetration. He doesn’t have a type; feminine and masculine, both catch his eye. He is kind of shallow, looks matter to him but beauty is undeniably subjective no matter what society claims. However, if they’re ugly to him on the inside, he’s not going to compromise just because he shares a few interests with them and they are physically attractive.
Asian men, just know that not every white man is out there to dominate you or make you feel badly about yourself. There are white western men who could potentially have a strong connection with you and would treat you like his god.
Unfortunately, this stance is still fetishism. it is based upon the unspoken and subconscious assumption that white men have the power to give, or remove grace; sexually and romantically. even submission to another "race" in this instance is still based upon the assumption that they (white men) have the power to pick and choose their roles in relationships. "more than likely yield to their culture" also speaks of the assumed and socially given "options" that are palpable and present in white men - gay or straight. It is apparent that white men have "options;" because they have been lead to believe that they do; while having said "options" pander to them because that is what they ("minorities") have also been lead to believe and do. You also mentioned your friend is looking for "first generation" or equivalent. Im assuming this is a veiled way of saying that they (your friend) are looking for an Asian accent, fixed cultural ways ("exotic" ways of being) -- and that "off the boat" vibe. Which implies fetishism....as well! You also mentioned the feminine/masculine both catching your friends eye. which implies what you really meant to say was "calling all Femme Asian men, its ok...you will still get f***** but not treated like an Asian Bottom publicly.. LOL omg. And lastly; The parting message to Asian men was unwarranted. Asian men dont need you to tell them this. You are playing the role of "friendly European trying to convince Pocahontas that..the white man with his eye on her means her no harm and will treat her right." Asian men are very aware that not every white man out there is trying to do what you said. But the implications of your entire statement do more harm that good. Because it confirms EVERYTHING that brown skin is used to . And on your end Im sure you may have assumed you were doing the right thing by making that statement. This is in no way an attack on you or your friend. It was just pertinent to reply beacause you inadvertantly confirmed the same things this video (and ethnic dating experience in general) have already touched on...and personally experienced. Am I Asian? No. I am Black. but I felt the need to comment because if you switch a few words out that were typed; this is the same statement given to Black men. and one more thing: Treating someone like a "God" is objectivity and fetishism. Every statement you made (even if made with good intentions) further proves what Asian men go through........
You even had the gall of speaking on the Asian man as a whole -- when you are not and will never be an Asian Man. You stated "But as a whole, the Asian gay man feels either fetishized or less-than" ---- This is "White Privilege" at its best! I do not intend to be inflammatory. but its best to unpack many things if one calls themselves an ally or supporter. because often what said ally is supporting is their own ego and their own LUST at the end of the day. You have no right or bearing to have made such a statement. But this is what liberties are taken by people who are not socially considered to be "ethnic."
What do y'all care what white people think of you? Stop chasing people that are not interested in you and love yourselves enough to want to have a relationship and sex with another Asian person.
@@BardofsongBut why do y'all chase white men & put them on pedestals-then turn around & accuse them of white privilege??? You created the white privilege in your Asian minds.
One guy said that it’s a learned behavior. I don’t want to date someone I have to learn to like. Prefs are prefs that’s it. Btw I would date Asian but there are other races I wouldn’t
Ya. As a gaysian, I've had my share of rejections due to racial "preferences"... even from other gaysians... Lol. Of course, it's disheartening. But... the ideal hunk is muscular and white (or black with a big cock)... and gaysians are very low on the desirability tier. I've even had someone tell me that I'm not asian enough... that my dick isn't big enough... that I look like a top but I'm more of a bottom... ha ha ha... Sigh... When it comes to sexual attraction, people can be fickle and horrible... Conversely though, I've rejected guys because they just didn't turn me on... and it had nothing to do with race... it was more about personality... I really don't care about race... it's more about the person: it really comes down to ➡️ do I find them interesting and sexy? and vice versa... In a perfect world, maybe it would be great if we can get over the whole race thing... but the world is shit.
But, I love AM 🥰
They’re pretty awesome as men. They’ve been some of the best friends
Best friends 💀 💀
@@cupofjoen Anyway i'll never give them a chance but they are still "good friends" tee hee
@@KHHVKimchicel tee hee ikywm 😏
Commentaries like this are too few and far between. However, are there any commentaries out there with both gay/non-gay Asian men, and of more Asian nationalities?
Here I am. I am Japanese having grown up in Japan and living and working abroad for professional reasons (most likely retiring in Japan without seeking migration).
My comments : I see how poorly Western media has projected the image of Asian men (or ignored totally) to the extent of making them feel marginalised. It seems unnatural for them to be made feel "less", when looked from outsiders. It is funny that in Japan, the white men are often regarded less attractive for different reasons (associated with philosophical immaturity, lack of cleanliness and hygienic standards/ communication skills/ emotional intelligence, colonial past, and unpleasantly dominant attitudes as a sign of ignorance).
The only solution : To travel widely outside where he or she grew up to open up one's mind courageously so we can see things differently and more individually and be free from those unnaturally imposed stereotypes. This is necessary not only for the Eastners to the West and the South, but also for the Westerners to the East and the South.
How many of these men have preferences?
They all still wish they had a white man. Like Asian women, they still chase white men
None.
I bet they all prefer white guys
I'm an older Greek/Korean but I look more Asian. It is true we're marginalized more---sad. I hope one day we can be in the spot light like black men. Bottom line, it's hard to be a minority within a minority.
This is only gay Asian men opinions which is irrevelant to the larger issues facing straight Asian men trying to date Western women.
The unmitigated gall to say 'No Asians WHILE in fkin Thailand!' How? smh
Definitely felt this growing up, I grew up in a predominantly white community. As such I had a preference for white girls. I had my glow up very late (at 26-27) but I noticed that once you reach a certain level of "looks" or attractiveness, it doesn't matter what race you are :)
all my life I date Asians men's and I love it
are u asian
Then why don't you guys like date .... eachother :-/
Because they’re not attracted to Asians either but they expect white guys to be
I’m a straight Filipino guy. I went on a date with a girl who said she doesn’t date Asians, and she got hella defensive when I called her out for being racist. Some people might think that’s just a preference, but you can’t just reduce someone to their race/ethnicity. Anyone agree or disagree?
Disagree. When it comes to dating, you can be as racist as you want. Preference is not a choice, and when it comes to choosing a lifetime partner, you have to be sure that you're comfortable being with him/her.
Yes. It's your body and your choice.
@@ShadowbannedAccount Thats VERY SELFISH So you dont care at all if that person is comfortable being with you? Sounds like you dont even see them as human at all. You the one who get to choose? Lmao NO
@@mmmppp5119 I said NOTHING of what you responded to, but this is to be expected on the Internet. After all, the overall average IQ in the US just dropped by 7 points.
@@mmmppp5119 bahaha
It's selfish to date those youre physically attracted to??
I can see why you've got so many issues finding dates- besides being physically undesirable, you're mentally challenged/disturbed
It's not a mystery why they won't come near you, champ
"stereotyped image"
Those record books say differently
i dont have depression I have epic gamer diseases
Hakka pride! In regards to the first interviewee surnamed with the Chinese Hakka "Chin!" Fuck yeah! Also, next time it would be thoughtful to label those who are straight just as the "gays" were indicated/labelled. Go lgbt pride btw. It's not like viewers can just assume that oh, it's heteronormative society, so unlabelled means straight, no dawg, be consistent, u know? Peace and love!
I feel quilty for preferring asian men. And not liking some other certain people… I won’t say what kind of people but I feel quilty. And also I feel bad cuz I follow asian media and it might make me seem like fetishizer but I like other races too. 😬
What is the ideal height for man?
@@noname-bt9ky Most women say they like above 180cm. My preference is 170cm-190cm. I don’t mind shorter than me, I’m 178cm myself.
Idk I’m european so what I hear for preferred height can be different from other areas of world. Girls usually like taller than them.
@@산드라-p8x Haha I am also 178cm
Im 172 SEA men, so basically I'm doomed for life 💀
His delivery here is so funny lol 2:49
I've always wanted to date an Asian top but they were never interested in me for some reason I've been wanting to date a Asian person for years because I find the culture fun funny and very adventurous but no Asian top wants to date me at all I'm so heartbroken
They're just insecure about it. First of all, they're immigrants and they expect nothing good will happen to them personally (professionally, it's their field to make money lol) second of all, try traveling to Asia or southeast Asia. Most of us will feel lucky to date wf. But yeah, only dating I get it. We Asians want marriage, not a test drive dating.
But asian women they do succes.
Because white men love Asian women, a friend of mine learnt Korean just for the reason to date a Korean woman
Well, women have more chance because men do all the hard work. Also, men are naturally attracted to looks. No matter what race is the women, they'll bang her. Unlike women, race is important in preference.
This is too bad. I dream day and night of a Chinese, Korean, or Japanese husband. I don’t understand because I would like to date more Asian men but they hate that I have a “type”. It’s like if you’re not white you look for anything to be offended. These men are saying they are experiencing exclusion but as an Arabic white man, all I experience is exclusion because I’m not a minority. See?! Rice queen! This culture of “racism awareness” is so rigged that we’re damned if we do and damned if we don’t. It’s a road of destruction. The entire culture is rigged to keep us divided no matter what we do to remain United.
Notice how you failed to mention South Asian when you said you are open to dating Asian men. Somehow they aren't Asian enough or what? The problem is that when you auto reject an entire "type" without even giving them a chance, you're no different than the whites who do the same by excluding Asians as a whole. You're reducing them to a 'type' without realizing everyone has their own personalities in this group. You fail to see them beyond the type you have reduced them to. People need to be more open and learn to love differences in features instead of having a narrow preference. Its bordering on fetishization
@@Ghostrider-ul7xn or people can have their own preferences. What a weird world we live in where people are now shamed into dating other people. And i'm a black dude saying this. Yikes.
@@thelonercoder5816 Your racial identity is irrelevant, what matters is evidence and reason.
Your preferences can indeed come from a place of racial bias and it can be discriminatory. There's plenty of quantitative and qualitative evidence supporting it. Your preferences aren't created in vacuum. Its mostly conditioned through predominant beauty standards that you're exposed to.
There's no one on this planet who is neurologically wired such that they can't be attracted to all individuals of a given race because there's enough variation in the said racial population than in between racial groups. That's the reason why race is called a social construct. The average person isn't exposed to the diversity of human population around the world.
So If someone rules out an entire racial/ethnic group before even interacting with/exposing to every one of them, it can only be because of aversions that operate on a different level to raw sexual attraction. If you turn a group of people into a monolith and a totality based on few traits you assume that is shared in that group, and then reject that on the basis of not liking it, then yes, that's pretty much the textbook definition of prejudice. There's no way around it.
@@Ghostrider-ul7xn I'm not going to force anyone to be attracted to anyone. No one can help who they're attracted to. Plain and simple.
@@thelonercoder5816 "I'm not going to force anyone to be attracted to anyone"
Non sequitur. That doesn't logically follow from what I said at all. Asking people to give everyone a FAIR consideration before they decide whom to date =/= forcing someone to be attracted.
"No one can help who they are attracted to"
This isn't quite true as people want to believe. There's overwhelming evidence that shows attraction can gradually build with enough positive exposure. Learn more about exposure effect. Do you seriously think everyone in a relationship stay in relationship because they are attracted to their spouses 24/7? Lol you've much to learn about relationships. People fall in love and CHOOSE to stay in love. All you need is self motivation and an open mind to find the good parts of someone that makes them attractive. Biggest evidence is in arranged marriages that show love can grow stronger between strangers even after marriage. So, no, its not that plain and simple. You really need to educate lot more on the social psychology of attraction.
funny. the entire video demeans Asian men to a non-masculine stereotype.
Maybe because this video is about asian lgbtq and not straight asians?
@@rainynight8385 This is what we are talking about. In white films, a weak white character is almost always opposed to a strong, heroic white character, and a weak, clown black is opposed to a pure-hearted black genius. For Asians, in 99% of cases, there is always one role - the role of a weak clown or the role of a nerd, or the role of a martial arts expert, who for some reason often loses to white or black. That's the whole role for Asians in the West. Such videos about gays Asians only emphasize all the condescending and dismissive attitude towards Asian men in the West. I wonder whose ingenious idea it was to tell about stereotypes about Asian men using the example of gay Asians. Lol.
@@offilawnoone9020 true, in indonesia that’s very important about role. TOP can’t be with with TOP, and BOTTOM can’t be with BOTTOM. role in a countries such as like thailand, philippines, indonesia role is everything.
Asia includes the middle east central asia south asia east asia and north asia. I know that east asians and some south asians have had problems with discrimination but what about all the others
Exactly, I have noticed that for some reason other groups, especially South Asians are often excluded from this discussion.
@@Ghostrider-ul7xn maybe it’s because there aren’t very many of them in the first place
@@wegood563 That's not true. Out of 85% of All Asian Americans, 23% of them are Chinese and 20% of them are Indians so roughly the same in size. These 2 are the largest Asian population in US. Even assuming this isn't the case, why shouldn't they be part of a conversation about discrimination, especially since they experience discrimination the most, just because they are a smaller group? That doesn't make sense
@@Ghostrider-ul7xn I think when people picture a typical ‘Asian’ they think of an East Asian face. Indian they’d just call Indian straight up. It’s wrong in terms of wording but that’s just how it is right now
India is considered as a trash heap rather than as Asia though. When we say Asia we mean Japan, China etc. When we say trash heap we mean India
Just curios ..would those guys date asians?
@ebonhawk
Pakistanis? There is no Pakistanis in America. Come to the UK. Every block you'll see white and black girls with Pakistani boys. From women liked princess diana to Britney Spears have dated Pakistani boys in the UK. Half of the street girls in my area are with Pakistanis. They don't even need dating sites. They do it in real time.
Lol right
I like Chinese men. Not all Chinese. More like the southern type. Like thai, or spanish, or vietnamese. Can't say. Like the guy in the whiteblack polo shirt.
Or Tom Daley, or Owen Jones.
R u gay?
Indians , pakistanis are also Asians
Wonder if any of these guys have racial 'preferences'???
And what if they do? Is that supposed to justify how they're treated?
@@EzioIlMentore can racists justify accusing people of racism?
@@peterpalmato467 They're racist? Have you even watched the video? Their preference were influenced by their environment or the whitewashed media. Sounds to me you're just another one of those ppl painting Asians as racists to justify your own xenophobia. That's a really common scapegoat, especially in corona-season.
@@EzioIlMentore So you agree? They *do* have a (racial) 'preference'?
@@peterpalmato467 So it's their fault that the society they grew up in is heavily whitewashed?
but Walton Wang hot tho!
I like Asian men I like all the colors of the rainbow 🌈 starburst candy and.
Part of the problem - Asian men who don’t want to date other Asian men
Everyone has preferences, can’t change them, it’s reality
Not true Asian men in Asia DONT date foreigners as well
Once I had sex with a SE Asian but I felt I was having sex with my brother----eerie!
That's a lie Asian men do date each other/be with each other. It's just the Asian population in some places is very very small. You might have 100 partners to choose from while they might have just 15. That's forces people to look outside the box.
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Can I just amire asian facial features?
No that's racist according to
2019.
I guess I can't compliment anyone other then whites?
@@dimxlights380 Nobody if it's based on their race. Especially whites. When's the last time you heard mainstream media glorifying white features anyway. It's ok to say black is beautiful, though.
You meant the smooth white asian facial features that koreans have? If that's the case, you should admire korean only. Some SEA people have "dirty" facial features due to genetics. By I mean dirty, I am genetically born with big pores and oily skin (done research, it's genetic hormone and not curable).
It’s women problem not mine
Now the question is, what is the difference between preference and sexual racism?
There’s no such thing as sexual racism. When it comes to sex, you can be as discriminatory as you want because nobody is entitled to sex with you and pulling the racist card is just a pathetic excuse. I just don’t find Asian men attractive and it’s got nothing to do with racism.
These men saying white guys won’t date them cuz they’re racist is like Tess Holliday calling you fatphobic for not wanting to date her.
@benjaminfranklinthe180th4 That's not necessarily true. I saw some studies a few years back that showed people strong racial bias in dating tended to strong racial bias outside dating. Your right though technically outside of government or employment people are allowed to be racist. It's just in highly liberal areas it looks very jarring to see people scream rights for this or that group then do something like this.... 😂
I never say “no this” “no that” on gay apps. I think that’s so tacky. I just say “White guy for White guy”.
I prefer Asian men
why do u think they're creepy
Seriously?
@@ninjapirate123 I dont know I only date same race like me, I wrote this 2 years ago
@@cjlowe1650 I dont know I only date same race like me, I wrote this 2 years ago
@@msprettykawaii950 have u dated one already
A lot of asian women will realize this
Sexual racism? Don't you discriminate against women if you don't want to have sex with them?
If you choose to be gay then yes...how many people you know choose to be gay.
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I'd hardly call it racism or even blame racism I think that's a bit ridiculous honestly. Even Asian woman find Asian men the least attractive group so...? It literally doesn't make sense. I mean self loathing can only go so far. Not to say actual direct racism isn't a part of the picture. That obviously is real. But I don't think it's helpful to label someone a bigot simply for an actual preference. I mean imagine for example I called you a bigot for not liking my ginger hair. Let's be honest. Most people don't like it.
It's unfortunate things don't work out equally..But the odds of things being equal are actually very small. Of course if you actually bother to gather the data on things you will find imbalances/inequalities. They aren't inherently bad. They just aren't inherently good either. What do you actually intend to do to equalise this outcome? Seriously?
@s Jones women are more likely to racially profile. Men are much more ok with dating outside their race. Just more anti white guy malarkey.
Stop allowing negative stereotypes and racism permeate through our culture.
And you don't find it strange that Asian women in Western countries find white men (and only white men - if you're brown or darker, you can forget it) more attractive than men of their own race, when Asian women in Asian countries don't have such a 'preference' and other women of color also don't have such a skewed preference towards white men? The thought that Asian women (and gay Asian men, for that matter) in Western countries could be whitewashed and racist/prejudiced against their own race never once occurred to you? Really?
The whole point is not to equalize the outcome, obviously, but to spread the rather self-evident message that attraction is not created or realized in a vacuum. What we find attractive is determined by what we see around us and more generally what society tells us is attractive. If you think that only a certain race is attractive, ask yourself why.
In Japan, Asians are more preferred than white due to negative stereotypes against the white. This clip is about how Asian Americans are treated in the 'local' American society, while not to be universalised to elsewhere.
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I'm white and have always found asian men so attractive!
would u date one
@@ninjapirate123 would I? Son, I have and had a few asian partners throughout my many years. Lol
@@cjlowe1650 But what ethnicity are your asian partners
@@ninjapirate123 I really don't know you that well to answer that. But let's say I've dated or parternered with almost every Asian race from Chinese, Japanese, Indonesian, Korean, Vietnamese, Filipino, Thai, Malaysian and more.
@@cjlowe1650 Ok
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Tbh most Asians I've seen is unattractive, and that's even with fitness. Also the attitude is not a good look. So yeah look wise and attitude which is the biggest contribution to why Asian is not attractive. ⁷
and here you are searching for videos about Asians just to leave negative comments? Sounds like jealousy to me
BTS is asian and most girls loved them
Wtf is a sexual racism?!
Basically. It’s people who are trying to threaten you for not dating them, so they coerce you into dating them by calling you racist.
Why not date within your race instead? No one has any right to anyone and using this "racism" excuse is horrible and shame on you.
Y'all some snowflakes.
i woulld take all of you as boyfriend... iam german gay..
Why won’t they date each other?😂