U can tell main man’s whole mood switched soon as he started getting cooked by the yoshi player got real heated as he was getting played for clips lmao
I got Dragunov to Bushin simply by using a handful of moves. My main is only at Raijin. This character is extremely perfect. Great lows, great mids, ok highs. Perfect throw game. He has everything
I had that with leroy, i played stuff like kazuya, heihachi, bryan, and they were all so hard i had to keep my mind into the game. With leroy i hit bushin by playing pretty chill ☠️ a few knowledge checks and flowcharts and it was bushin within a week of me playing him
@@saramegan2243I'd argue Leroy is a better character because he's a match up check. People can play against Steve better since there's more Steve players imo
@@destroyahdestroyah9584 the difference between a good Steve and a normal Steve you feel it right in this. Leeroy can especially go well with those who don't know him (like 90% of the characters on Tekken) in fact he is one of the characters that I can play better against, a good Steve is practically always safe, I am a bushi meme with Steve but as soon as you rank up you find someone who knows how to use him well it is no longer a problem because they adapt to the opponent. in my opinion you can't say that a character is stronger because it is used less, it's simply the player who has to learn it
@saramegan2243 I mean that's a good point but I just mean in the relative meta, obscure characters have a hidden advantage in that people don't know the counterplay. Reina is better than Leroy but I'm better at the Reina matchup since she's everywhere
Dragunov makes everyone look good in the ring, but not this Devil Jim character. He doesn’t need Dragunov to look good. He’s threatening the top guy (Dragunov). They might want to make Devil Jim a jobber if they want to keep selling tickets.
2:31 Thank you Mr SWE! I have just picked up drag and was looking for a good move to get them higher up the wall while they are super close to it! Really appreciate it!
As a Dragunov main, I enjoyed every second of this video! :) Yes, Dragunov is a strong character and fairly easy to play (in a brainless way). But let’s be honest, guys: what we’re seeing here is a legacy player (with around 25 years of Tekken experience, right?) and 420K Tekken Prowess effortlessly dismantling players with around 250K Tekken Prowess. In any other game, this would be called smurfing. And everyone’s like, 'Oh, Dragunov is sooo broken.' :)
Exactly. He talks like u can just pick up drag with no fundamentals and no knowledge and just reach tekken king or above. It just isn-t true. Sure he-s powerful, on top 10, but he can only carry you to a point.
@@SlashZAKU he isn’t wrong tho. TMM is a high level player with extreme legacy knowledge that includes drag. Obviously he’s gonna make legit TK guys look dumb.
You know ever since Tekken8 came out I haven't heard tmm say Fahkumrams name once which is funny because I just remembered he existed today after like 7 months
Drag is top tier at all levels, but he is not cheesy at all compared to a lot of other bullshit in this game. I rather fight a drag a 1000 times than yoshi Alisa etc
@@NoobyNick0710 exactly. Reached emperor today and with the matches I put out, no one is gonna sit here and say “carried”. That shit was straight fundamentals and optimization.
I dont understand why dragunov is soo hated, I know that his sneak 4 is overtuned, but other than that he seems just to be a normal strong character. Jin have many overtuned attacks, Yoshi is straight up bullshit and his flash is unbearable. pls explain
because he was stronger at the beginning beginning, so pros picked him. Now they could switch to a stronger character but they'd have to learn it from the start, while they already learned dragunov from the first month of the game and it's good enough. Since he's picked a lot for this reason everyone is complaining about it. Then the literal propaganda started about how his attacks are all perfect (while in this very video everyone who beat him just punished and jabbed his 22f "op" mids) and now people are just brainwashed and they don't even know his moves
Perfect throw game that eliminates your recoverable for free, sneak 4, snake edge, evasive moves and string, good delayable string, sneak 4, strong whiff punish, wr2, that wall combo grab, sneak 4, strong oki.
qcf4 should launch on ch, force crouch on block +9 and on hit gives a free gurantee b34 into heat dash launch, better homing on both side and hits grounded for follow up plus wallsplats.
In all honestly, other than ignition switch (qcf4) he's top tier but balanced, plus frames? Everyone has it, dmg? Depends on the, easy? Ya i agree.....
Why would he do something else when the move he uses is so overtuned that he doesn't need to do anything else, especially when people fear to interrupt?
Ta façon de parler Français me termine tu dit des mot datant de la préhistoire - in english (Your way of speaking French kills me, you use words that date from prehistoric times) merci pour la video ;)
Everybodys talking about 50/50s, too much plus frames, heat smashes, but no one about rage arts tho. This mechanic slow the pace of fight so fkcing much and dont tell me, that im mad cuz i propbaly get hit with them a lot, when we even in pro play it is used a lot. I feel like in game like tekken 8 when we have so much options and the game is designed to be aggresive, it just doesnt make sense to still be there.
I know ill get a lot of heat for this but Drag deserves to be top tier. He's been 💩 since tekken 5 DR. I dont mind Devil Jin Steve and Kazuya being weak in Tekken 8. The only fix is Bamco should raise the execution level on Lilly Yoshi Shaheen Dragunov Feng Nina and King. Vice versa they should simplify the input level of Steve Devil Jin and Kazuya if they're still intended to be at the bottom tiers. Going through multiple mechanics like heat smash dash into wavedashes microdashes and stances to hit a combo that does 45% meanwhile the beginner Dragunov lilly Nina combos do like 65%-75% into guaranteed mix ups and oki should require a higher execution level.
Mainman rants and whines as he gets bodied by a Tekken king yoshi 😂 All while using the most broken op character in the history of the universe, past and future. Best part? They changed the matchmaking system and he is getting the actual ranks that are shown, not Tekken god of destruction omega using alt characters. He gets 10 wins in a row against players in ranks much lower than him, with half the prowess and it's because the character is op. He gets 60 or 80 wins in a row with Paul against Tekken gods of destruction and it's all skill. Thank God he didn't make a tier list after these matches cuz yoshi would be #1, just like when he lost like a lil crybaby against lee and lee was suddenly top 5 🤣 what a 🤡
every one who streams whines , it’s human y”know.. Japanese/korean streamers don’t really complain but their streams aren’t as enjoyable personally.. just robotic stoic personalities with high level gameplay .. boring
qcf4 should launch on normal hit
Cook
it should also guard break for +14 tbh
It should also just automatically give dragononuv the 3 rounds, so whenever it lands on hit, or block it just cuts to the winscreen
@@AbsolutelyAbsurDDDnah it should guard break for +92 like tekken 1 king cuz it’s kinda useless rn.
@@Latino_BurritoNah. Too weak. One hit should automatically cut to the online practice mode waiting list.
U can tell main man’s whole mood switched soon as he started getting cooked by the yoshi player got real heated as he was getting played for clips lmao
the chat triggered mainman LOL
That Dragunov seems a little OP, when are they nerfing Devil Jin?
Real
Lmao I love how devil jin became tekken’s version of genji from overwatch 😭 genji was always getting nerfed
@@tearitup5864 and also sledge from rainbow six siege
Lol ur wrong dragunov is actually best character and deviljin is bottom 5
You scrub
I think they will nerf devil jin after they nerf devil jin
I got Dragunov to Bushin simply by using a handful of moves. My main is only at Raijin. This character is extremely perfect. Great lows, great mids, ok highs. Perfect throw game. He has everything
Whos your main?
@@sebastianmoscoso9404and then he say Alisa 😂
Kidding, im curious too
@@thrueriusTbf Dragonov is much better than Alisa.
@@ragnarok7452 dragunov is S+ tier but Nina, Yoshi and Alisa comes right behind him
I had that with leroy, i played stuff like kazuya, heihachi, bryan, and they were all so hard i had to keep my mind into the game. With leroy i hit bushin by playing pretty chill ☠️ a few knowledge checks and flowcharts and it was bushin within a week of me playing him
Bamco: "this is outrageous. Unintended behaviour. Nerf to Leroy Devil Jin and Steve."
Steve way better than leroy and devil jin btw
@@saramegan2243I'd argue Leroy is a better character because he's a match up check. People can play against Steve better since there's more Steve players imo
@@destroyahdestroyah9584 the difference between a good Steve and a normal Steve you feel it right in this. Leeroy can especially go well with those who don't know him (like 90% of the characters on Tekken) in fact he is one of the characters that I can play better against, a good Steve is practically always safe, I am a bushi meme with Steve but as soon as you rank up you find someone who knows how to use him well it is no longer a problem because they adapt to the opponent. in my opinion you can't say that a character is stronger because it is used less, it's simply the player who has to learn it
@saramegan2243 I mean that's a good point but I just mean in the relative meta, obscure characters have a hidden advantage in that people don't know the counterplay. Reina is better than Leroy but I'm better at the Reina matchup since she's everywhere
Dragunov makes everyone look good in the ring, but not this Devil Jim character. He doesn’t need Dragunov to look good. He’s threatening the top guy (Dragunov). They might want to make Devil Jim a jobber if they want to keep selling tickets.
🤣🤣
Devil Tim
I got so overwhelmed by the amount of skill on display, i think i developed a tick.
Love the opening: “can someone clip that skill sequence” literally just spamming qcf4 😂😂😂
21:00 editing recently has been so good I almost forgot how insufferable mainman is when he's losing
He is funny at most in those moments. Or i just had enough league & overwatch in my time so my "insufferable" meter got "stretched."
That's just how he is, you should be used to it by now if you like his content, he aint changing.
Nah nah, that was actually hypocritical what happened there
2:31 Thank you Mr SWE! I have just picked up drag and was looking for a good move to get them higher up the wall while they are super close to it! Really appreciate it!
As a Dragunov main, I enjoyed every second of this video! :)
Yes, Dragunov is a strong character and fairly easy to play (in a brainless way). But let’s be honest, guys: what we’re seeing here is a legacy player (with around 25 years of Tekken experience, right?) and 420K Tekken Prowess effortlessly dismantling players with around 250K Tekken Prowess. In any other game, this would be called smurfing. And everyone’s like, 'Oh, Dragunov is sooo broken.' :)
Exactly. He talks like u can just pick up drag with no fundamentals and no knowledge and just reach tekken king or above. It just isn-t true. Sure he-s powerful, on top 10, but he can only carry you to a point.
This right here is too true. I watched the first Nina match and it hurt to see how much respect the man gave tmm for no reason.
This is facts I have beaten a fair amount of dragunovs yeah sure the character is good, but he ain't broken imo.
The downplay is godlike
@@SlashZAKU he isn’t wrong tho. TMM is a high level player with extreme legacy knowledge that includes drag. Obviously he’s gonna make legit TK guys look dumb.
The problem in Tekken 8 is called Sergei Dragunov. 38 times in the top 8!!!
Harada: unintended behaviour. Nerf to Devil Jin
"I'M GONNA DO MY RAGE ARRRRT" 😂😂😂
23:44 the range on this move is always jarring. Never knew Dragounov's big toe is this... big
That yoshi was wild…that Must be a Main from t7
damn that yoshi in the 2nd match was truly enjoying himself
You know ever since Tekken8 came out I haven't heard tmm say Fahkumrams name once which is funny because I just remembered he existed today after like 7 months
17:43 hello 911, i'd like to report a robbery
14:56 this Yoshi gowing wild ngl
He tried really hard
Gowing.
Bamco: DID DEVIL JIN JUST FUCKING BREATHS? NERF HIM
I absolutely love watching mainman play vs wild yoshi players
Instant classic 😂
Every single time 😂 you can always see it coming lol. Remember when he was fighting a crazy Yoshi in Tekken 7 with his Jin? That video is hilarious.
That Kazuya was so focused on getting electrics he let TMM do whatever he wanted lol
3:34 the bucket spinning in the background 😂
Was not expecting daddy swe to say "let him cook" 😂
Difference between swe and a pro:
"I don't play Dragunov." 🤣
Ого, я на видос попал, повезло повезло.
Спасибо за игру, GGS!!!
Стильный драг, хороший мувмент, одобряю.
Топовый драгунов
Гойда
That yoshi was crazy
Drag is top tier at all levels, but he is not cheesy at all compared to a lot of other bullshit in this game. I rather fight a drag a 1000 times than yoshi Alisa etc
Right lol but because “top tier” all of a sudden good fundamentals means carried
QCF4 is cheese, but thats all - still fun to fight like in T7. Alisa should not have lasted this many games. Someone must have a fetish at BN
@@NoobyNick0710 exactly. Reached emperor today and with the matches I put out, no one is gonna sit here and say “carried”. That shit was straight fundamentals and optimization.
@@michaelpacheco6549 his other wall floating throw is a little OD damage wise when combined with his enders, it’s Heihachi max execution dmg
@@NoobyNick0710How on gods green earth is t8 Drag fun to fight.
I'd like to see MainMan play with the Raven! MainMan has so much knowledge of this game , he can surely take great advantage of Raven.
Watching high level tekken is so satisfying
I dont understand why dragunov is soo hated, I know that his sneak 4 is overtuned, but other than that he seems just to be a normal strong character.
Jin have many overtuned attacks, Yoshi is straight up bullshit and his flash is unbearable.
pls explain
because he was stronger at the beginning beginning, so pros picked him. Now they could switch to a stronger character but they'd have to learn it from the start, while they already learned dragunov from the first month of the game and it's good enough. Since he's picked a lot for this reason everyone is complaining about it. Then the literal propaganda started about how his attacks are all perfect (while in this very video everyone who beat him just punished and jabbed his 22f "op" mids) and now people are just brainwashed and they don't even know his moves
Perfect throw game that eliminates your recoverable for free, sneak 4, snake edge, evasive moves and string, good delayable string, sneak 4, strong whiff punish, wr2, that wall combo grab, sneak 4, strong oki.
@@reeyoHere not to mention, sneak 4.
@@reeyoHere i think you forgot to mention his sneak 4
Because half the matches at goD rank are dragunov players, you're clearly at lower ranks and don't understand the pain
As a drag main this makes me happy!!
Drag mains are the most skilled players!
Of course, how else are they winning all those tournaments @@crazy911wman
@@crazy911wmanhey as long as he’s not bragging don’t hate on him
good for you!!!!! dragunov is such an underrated character!!!!! really wish we saw him more at high level play...
@@crazy911wman some are :)
Chat:what the difference between you and a tournament player?
Mainman: i dont play dragunov
This video: ...
qcf4 should launch on ch, force crouch on block +9 and on hit gives a free gurantee b34 into heat dash launch, better homing on both side and hits grounded for follow up plus wallsplats.
His back1+2 on counterhit should give the same animation like bryans back 1 imo.
That yoshimitsu should stream. He good af
Guys i havent been watching mainman for awhile now, has he been this chill lately online?
Dragonouv is low tier and anyone one who says otherwise is a scrub and needs to get good.
You are not ragebaiting anyone lil bro
27:56 No offense to TMM but I was rooting for Reina player here😆
Finally TMM plying an honest character
_"What's the difference between you and a pro player?"_
TMM: I don't play dragunov.
Well that didn't age well
mainman with drag is horrific. im glad i don’t have to face him 😂
1 Shaheen video before Tekken 9. For Sweden.
Tekken 8 might as well rename itself to Dragunov 8
5:48 recoverable health deletion is for only tackle 1 iirc
In all honestly, other than ignition switch (qcf4) he's top tier but balanced, plus frames? Everyone has it, dmg? Depends on the, easy? Ya i agree.....
BRO IM TIRED OF WATCHING MAINMAN HIT SOMEBODY WITH A COMBO AND USE THE SAME MOVE 8 TIMES. Devious asf.
Why would he do something else when the move he uses is so overtuned that he doesn't need to do anything else, especially when people fear to interrupt?
The nerfs! They do nothing!
That was some good ass Drag
I mostly see mainmans winning against Tekken Kings.
I started this game with dragunov but tbh hes boring af so i dropped him after a few weeks, so far jack is the funnest for me
5:52 Mainman, I love you bro but this is just outright wrong. The only option that has done that is 1 break. Nothing else in his kit does that.
The only way to fix qcf4 is to make it an i8 normal hit launcher. Being +7 on block is kinda meh. It should be homing and unblickable!
12:32 an epic STFU! moment 🗿
next step become tekken god of destruction with dragunov and yoshi, too broken characters it's easy
20:37 mainman doesn’t understand that if you cheese with non op moves it’s style
been waiting for this.
qcf4 should be a unblockable
When are we getting the last season 1 character announcement? Is there a big TWT event soon?
Bro you are sooo good, You should go for Tournament bro
hes so fun though i hope they balance him
A wise man (Ulsan) once said: qcf4
same wiseman also said drag is a top10 char now since new patch and he will change char now
Buff Dragonuv…
In Tekken 7
Anyone know the music during the kazuya fight? 9:22
And yoshi fight? 15:18
Both from tag2
Kazuya: Tekken Tag Tournament 2 - Zirkus (Historic Town Square)
Yoshi: Tekken Tag Tournament 2 - Tool Pusher (Tempest)
You can't really nerf dragunov,he's perfect for a game all about aggression
qcf4 should be a 10frame launcher on block
Qcf4 should be unblockable and do 600 damage
can someone explain what happened at 33:45 ? that fakeout was nuts
he i indeed a good top10 char
What is keeping dragunov top 3?
give Drag high heels qcf4 deals more damage
Ta façon de parler Français me termine tu dit des mot datant de la préhistoire - in english (Your way of speaking French kills me, you use words that date from prehistoric times) merci pour la video ;)
Plus frames the character
3:47 I had the exact same reaction. LoL, why?
qcf4 should launch on whiff
Everybodys talking about 50/50s, too much plus frames, heat smashes, but no one about rage arts tho. This mechanic slow the pace of fight so fkcing much and dont tell me, that im mad cuz i propbaly get hit with them a lot, when we even in pro play it is used a lot. I feel like in game like tekken 8 when we have so much options and the game is designed to be aggresive, it just doesnt make sense to still be there.
I agree there
Can armor king be this bs if he was in Tekken 8?
Europe ranked is nothing like NA, Tekken kings dont fight like Tekken Europe. Its way harder in Europe, damn!!
The Nordic servers are sweaty as fuck
@@glassconference9088 Asian servers are even harder than Europe. This looks rather tame tbh.
I know ill get a lot of heat for this but Drag deserves to be top tier. He's been 💩 since tekken 5 DR.
I dont mind Devil Jin Steve and Kazuya being weak in Tekken 8.
The only fix is Bamco should raise the execution level on Lilly Yoshi Shaheen Dragunov Feng Nina and King.
Vice versa they should simplify the input level of Steve Devil Jin and Kazuya if they're still intended to be at the bottom tiers. Going through multiple mechanics like heat smash dash into wavedashes microdashes and stances to hit a combo that does 45% meanwhile the beginner Dragunov lilly Nina combos do like 65%-75% into guaranteed mix ups and oki should require a higher execution level.
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Me when I have no Idea what I’m talking about
So we just gonna pretend T7 Season 1 Drag wasn't the best character in the game at the time? Aight
Kazuya and Steve are not weak in this game lmao
He CAN be top tier, just not THIS top tier
you guys gotta see my kazuya mcdonald’s outfit, it’s better than this one
Dragunov gaming
im 260 and ive only hit tekken king
the main dude idk or something
31:00 this guy plays Reina like me. You're only minus frames if you're a coward.
Feng >>>>>
I hate drag is so overtuned he has always been such a cool char design now he is the cause of ptsd 😂😂
Now play Asuka
lmao tell em mainman!
can we get more bryan play
Let’s be honnest, YOU are the hypocrit for saying that the yoshi had not good fundamentals etc when he clearly had and I hate yoshi
Mainman again crying when he is fighting yoshi, such loser lol
Yoshi is not Top tier main main dont understand the macthup
20:40 ego hurt
You should watch his streams theres usually one moment of this each day it's kinda funny.
Insane dragu
I don't see nothing wrong with this character , you're just overrating him
So you do see something wrong with him 🤔
@@cfnalfa9549caught bro on the technicality
Thats exactly the problem needle dick, there is nothing wrong with the character.
I agree, qcf4 is a great character
Broooo just crouch cancel during sneak in fc1,4
Easy with the swearing. Some of us have kids.
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Mainman rants and whines as he gets bodied by a Tekken king yoshi 😂
All while using the most broken op character in the history of the universe, past and future.
Best part? They changed the matchmaking system and he is getting the actual ranks that are shown, not Tekken god of destruction omega using alt characters. He gets 10 wins in a row against players in ranks much lower than him, with half the prowess and it's because the character is op. He gets 60 or 80 wins in a row with Paul against Tekken gods of destruction and it's all skill.
Thank God he didn't make a tier list after these matches cuz yoshi would be #1, just like when he lost like a lil crybaby against lee and lee was suddenly top 5 🤣
what a 🤡
every one who streams whines , it’s human y”know.. Japanese/korean streamers don’t really complain but their streams aren’t as enjoyable personally.. just robotic stoic personalities with high level gameplay .. boring
bro is 40+ but has the speech of a 7 year old from kindergarten
Yeah... 3-5 moves, a little bit of fundamentals and you beat Tekken Kings left and right. I hate Bamco
tekken kings aren’t good at tekken
yeah tekken kings on t8 arent very scary. typically coast on character rather than fundies