Awesome! It’s great to see Russ join Mike in a discussion about what distinguishes the role of the architect and the role of the engineer. Loved this discussion! 👍
Mike, I am a huge fan of Russ. This conversation resonates deeply with me, and I am grateful for the insights you shared. There is a great need to understand the value and importance of an architect in a business while distinguishing it from the technical role of an engineer.
Hi John. I’m a huge fan of Russ too. He has done an incredible amount for the networking community. Every time I speak with him I feel like I’m back at Cisco in the early days of the internet. We had so much fun taking the world from 64k leased lines to the high speed and global networks of today.
Awesome video. Architecture is so different from engineering because architects are more business oriented and the engineers are on the implementation end.
Thank you. Your right. The main focus for the architect is a business outcome, the main focus for the engineer is the tech. We need both and they are equally important.
Just to clarify, an architect's job is to make sure the non-functional requirements are met. Non-functional requirements are the "-ilities", like Security, Availability, Cost, and Performance. While some are business related, not all are. We always had the architects focus on the "how" a system works, and the engineers focused on the "what".
I left my sales career behind to learn IT. After my certificate at a community college for network cloud specialist should I pass the azure dev cert instead of the architect cert? I do not want to deal with business again directly. I'll happily take my chances with engineer roles.
What are your goals? That’s the starting point. Please note that the Azure solutions architect expert has nothing to do with architecture and it’s all related to engineering. So if your goal is cloud engineering it’s much better than the developer associate. The question is, what are your goals? For example, if you wanted to be a cloud engineer You might start with the azure solutions architect expert, then learn Python, then develop strong line administration skills, then develop strong infrastructure as code skills, and then learning some DevOps By comparison, if you wanted to be a software developer I would tell you that the solutions architect expert is a good fundamental certification Then learn how to become a software developer And then potentially take the developer associate after that. Please note you will not learn how to be a developer by any developer certification So you will have to learn those skills on your So it’s all about knowing your goals and then building a plan to get there.
Correct, my goal is cloud engineer. I see you have laid out the stages for it, thank you. I was under the assumption because architect was in the cert name. I was advised to take the administration cert plus either the developer, or security to prepare for the solutions expert. If devops is needed in the later steps to become an engineer I definitely need to figure out which of those last two certs would benefit me better.
Thank you, Patrick! Glad you’re enjoying the content. It is always great to connect with those who value the importance of architecture. Appreciate your support!
Thank you. I know he and I both loved the time we spent designing many of the systems we now use today. When I speak with Russ - It reminds me of my youth and how much fun I had in networking. I hope to have another discussion soon with him.
Awesome! It’s great to see Russ join Mike in a discussion about what distinguishes the role of the architect and the role of the engineer. Loved this discussion! 👍
Thank you Parviz!
It was wonderful speaking with Russ.
During the discussion I felt like we were back at Cisco in the early days of networking.
Mike, I am a huge fan of Russ. This conversation resonates deeply with me, and I am grateful for the insights you shared. There is a great need to understand the value and importance of an architect in a business while distinguishing it from the technical role of an engineer.
Hi John.
I’m a huge fan of Russ too.
He has done an incredible amount for the networking community.
Every time I speak with him I feel like I’m back at Cisco in the early days of the internet.
We had so much fun taking the world from 64k leased lines to the high speed and global networks of today.
Amazing and informative discussion. Love it!
Your support means a lot. Feel free to share your thoughts or questions if you have any!
Lovely presentation
Thank you very much
Great discussion and key insight’s on being a successful architect
Thank you.
Awesome video. Architecture is so different from engineering because architects are more business oriented and the engineers are on the implementation end.
Thank you. Your right. The main focus for the architect is a business outcome, the main focus for the engineer is the tech.
We need both and they are equally important.
Just to clarify, an architect's job is to make sure the non-functional requirements are met. Non-functional requirements are the "-ilities", like Security, Availability, Cost, and Performance. While some are business related, not all are. We always had the architects focus on the "how" a system works, and the engineers focused on the "what".
This was epic 🔥
Thank you. I really enjoyed speaking with Russ.
I left my sales career behind to learn IT. After my certificate at a community college for network cloud specialist should I pass the azure dev cert instead of the architect cert? I do not want to deal with business again directly. I'll happily take my chances with engineer roles.
What are your goals? That’s the starting point.
Please note that the Azure solutions architect expert has nothing to do with architecture and it’s all related to engineering. So if your goal is cloud engineering it’s much better than the developer associate.
The question is, what are your goals?
For example, if you wanted to be a cloud engineer
You might start with the azure solutions architect expert, then learn Python, then develop strong line administration skills, then develop strong infrastructure as code skills, and then learning some DevOps
By comparison, if you wanted to be a software developer
I would tell you that the solutions architect expert is a good fundamental certification
Then learn how to become a software developer
And then potentially take the developer associate after that.
Please note you will not learn how to be a developer by any developer certification
So you will have to learn those skills on your
So it’s all about knowing your goals and then building a plan to get there.
Correct, my goal is cloud engineer. I see you have laid out the stages for it, thank you. I was under the assumption because architect was in the cert name. I was advised to take the administration cert plus either the developer, or security to prepare for the solutions expert. If devops is needed in the later steps to become an engineer I definitely need to figure out which of those last two certs would benefit me better.
My Best Two Architects.
Thank you, Patrick!
Glad you’re enjoying the content. It is always great to connect with those who value the importance of architecture.
Appreciate your support!
Jack of all Trades, Master of One - I like that
I really like the way Russ described that as well.
+1 for the comments on real world life experiences to broaden your capabilities
Thank you. I know he and I both loved the time we spent designing many of the systems we now use today.
When I speak with Russ - It reminds me of my youth and how much fun I had in networking.
I hope to have another discussion soon with him.