4:06 that’s so horrible that happened to you, it takes a lot of strength and courage to share that. I hope you heal and receive so much love and support
YG = Burning Sun SM: "Hold my beer" K-pop stans: "He's a great singer. I love his visual and his dances are godlike. So, he's innocent and if he isn't, then, the little girl shouldn't wear such short skirt."
You can bring all the CRIMES of this person bc ofc we should spread but how is a literally sex offender in the same level of LC? who was only accused for "cheating" and don't wanting sexual encounters with an older woman, like how for you thats on the same leven and how hes an abuser for doing all the contrary of an abuse?? thats not, don't withdraw the attention of the real problem: Moon Taeil's atrocities and follow the case to make sure he receive a good punishment also something most of people forget, the support to the victim in future days, wont be easy for her being the center of attention and show face to face with her long time abuser.
🚨SM Entertainment has not terminated its contract with TAEIL despite his departure from NCT following his allegedly involvement in a sex crime case. This is most likely because If SM forces a contract termination TAEIL has to be paid, and since his contract is coming to an end soon, they probably chose to wait over losing money. SM updated their website, removing his profile from NCT's, but keeping him listed as a solo musician. Taeil has lost quite a lot of his followers on social media, (I think IG), the NCT members have unfollowed him and deleted all posts with him in it. 🚨
why do people keep bringing up lucas? what does cheating and being a bad boyfriend have to do with actual disgusting crimes? i don't understand. where is the hate for chanyeol then? what about onew?
Exactly. As a survivor of SA myself, I personally feel insulted that haters turned this issue into SA even though the allegations were cheating and gaslighting. It’s also very insulting that they support actual perpetrators lying about being “victims”, especially that person who believes these lies is also a survivor
I'm so sorry that happened to you. The saddest part is people trying to reason with these assaults. I'm from India, the r*pe and sexual assault cases are coming in left and right. Women here are TERRIFIED. I hope you stay strong as ever gurl. We are here for you 🤍
LOVE HOW you relay information. You'd think people would learn to stop jumping to conclusions after the whole Suga issue. Clearly something took place since his company made moves so quickly, but that's all we know for sure. If the police had to address what the investigation isn't about (ie. same sex or underage person) then you know the internet is out of order. Some police and reporters tend to play fast and loose with the truth/facts. Not sure if they know anymore or care, but don't feed into the problem. Also, be mindful that if things turn out to be false, since you've already tried and convicted this person publicly, his life will still be ruined. Stop reacting to epic headlines and lets wait for the truth to rear it's ugly head. Remember the truth. Good or bad, the media needs to get it right. Also, i'm pissed off because the media keeps referring to this issue as "S" crime or "SA" crime (i see this a lot). WTF call this shit out for what it is, because people are really getting hurt. STOP sugar coating the foolishness. You can't say sex crime, but you can say scooter. Sex crimes ok, but drive a small kickboard and they want to crucify you and get you kicked out of your group. Thanks for sharing your story. Unfortunately i can relate Thanks for your reaction
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As a fellow victim, the last few days of news coming out of South Korea has been hard. For me it’s been almost a decade, but my experiences still impact me to this day which makes stories like this hit very hard. I’m glad Taeil is hopefully going to be held accountable for his action. But we should hold off on speculating about what happened. All the speculation just harms the victim and honestly harms all victims to see our experiences turned into sensational gossip and fanwar fodder.
I am sorry for what happened to you… 😢 What you described is so heartbreaking… I pray that God puts a light in your heart that you feel healed again 🤲🏻❤️
4:06 I don’t know what to say…I’m so sorry this happened to you. Your strength in sharing this is incredible. Please know that what happened is not your fault, and you deserve all the support and care as you heal. Take care of yourself, and remember that you’re not alone. ❤️🩹
Bruh..Im so sorry u had to go through this...i cant imagine the trauma u have to endure, and what u feel hearing these kind of incidents.. Take care of yourself, ur strong and loved ❤️
Well, it is stupid to generalize a whole country, but knowing Korea and the men there i dont feel guilty to generalize, every single day there is news of a new man hurting a woman, woman´s in that country have to peace nor justice.
lucas was proven to be innocent, saesangs ruined his life and his career. sm isnt having tolerance for bad behaviour, lucas wasnt guilty, sm handled the situation wrongly and now they are trying to make up for it. any idol PROVEN to have actually commited sex crimes definitely shouldnt have a career to fall back on. but false accusations exist, and the people who falsely try to frame people should face consequences as well.
Right when I started college 2 years ago I went through the same, two fuckers drugged me and the worst happened, I could've been dead now bc I didn't knew them and where I live when girls go through s/a usually the abusers kill them after. One of the two guys was a child school teacher double my age, the other one I didn't even knew who he was until that day. Both tried to paint me as a slut that accepted their advances then felt ashamed, the cops believed them instead of me even though i had marks all over my body and even though I'd never say yes to this bc I'm a lesbian. I had to leave the college of my dreams that I worked all my life to enter bc one of them was a drug dealer and death threatened me. I've never done drugs in my life. I left the town and moved colleges. Two years after I cannot be alone with any man without feeling frightened with what would he do to me if he had the chance. I still feel guilt bc of how naive I was at that time, even though I did nothing wrong. I don't have male friends anymore bc all my male acquaintances failed me (that's on a deeper level and I don't feel like sharing). I still go to college on other institution, but I feel like an empty shell. I can't talk with a male teacher without thinking he might be an abuser or some sort of freak To this girl, I wish her nothing but strength, the system fails with us every day, and in the end we have only each other as a support system. I truly wish she makes through it alive before the trauma takes her out of this world. To those who never went through this, I truly hope you never experience any kind of abuse, you don't know how gut wrenching it is to have your will to live stripped away of you. Support abuse victims, don't doubt them just bc they're not behaving like you expected them to do. Listen to us, tell us everything is gonna be ok, bring us to psychological help centers, help us with police cases, spread our words bc our lives were stripped from us since the day the abuse started and it will never come back I truly want some day no one will never have to deal with this kind of shit
Thank you for sharing this. I'm sending you love and even more strength, and wish for you to heal more and more every day. Please be kind to yourself and remember it was not your fault. It took so much strength to take the steps that you did, and you are helping people now with this post. Joy should not have been stolen from you, and I'm wishing you an endless amount in the future.
Someone legit said the victim was his sister - like tf? Where r yall gettin this information from?? Lets just stay on track atleast, instead of exaggerating
SM usually just puts their idols on hiatuses after something big happens, so he definitely might have did what he’s being charged of. This is such a big reality check for K-pop fans that idols or even anyone around you aren’t usually who you think they are or how they show themselves on camera. That innocent, kind, chummy personality, we see on camera could be fake. Hence why we should not put these idols on pedestals and worship them. I am 🤏🏻 this close from unstanning NCT. I still am shocked but this…is JUST AN UNDERSTATEMENT 😖😖
Oh my God, i am so sorry that happened to you But you are stronger than than what happened to you, "rise above what happened like a phoenix " Fighting 💪💪💪💪💪
I'm so sorry for you and for other SA victims. The fact that those disgusting people can move on so quickly, but the victims are left to pick up the pieces of their broken lives is just so unfair...
The fact that he's the most sweetest, shy, keeps to himself, an incredible singer, barely takes the spotlight kinda member of the group makes it 10000x hard to believe and makes me wanna rethink my entire life and people around me. This is the most INSANE thing happening in KPOP 2024.
@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq i'm sorry to burst your bubble, but he was never the sweetest and it's usually those type of men who do these things. the men who are on the sidelines and nobody really knows anything about them. i always thought that i knew nothing about taeil, only that he was a great vocalist and the oldest. i always saw him as the most typical male member and just didn't really care if he was there or not.
@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq i've literally been an nctzen since early 2018. why else would i speak on this? i just knew the other members better, but taeil was always mysterious to me.
This situation is disgusting, hope the victim is safe and will get her justice, and i just wish a certain fandom would to stop using the victims pain as a weapon for fan war.
I am so sorry you were sexually assaulted. No one deserves that, and I hope you understand it was not your fault *in the slightest*. You are strong, brave, and you are a survivor! Keep going baby. It's all up from here ❤
i loved taeil. he was pretty much like a role model for me. becuz of him i was interested in improving my singing skills. his voice and highnotes felt like heaven to me but now it feels like hell. i am not even mad, im just flabbergasted. i literally cried but some shitty ass ppl were like "why tf are u crying over a celeb? dont u know that idols dont show their real image infront of the camera?" BITCH I KNOW THAT. i am been an nctzen fan for a while, i have many of their songs downloaded and i would get excited whenever they would release songs, but that doesnt make u be entitled to belittle my feelings and admirations for nct, especially from taeil who is the oldest members and one of the members who were in the original nct lineup. because of the fact that i am invested in nct's discographies is the reason taeil's case makes me SO DISAPPOINTED AND HURT. he was a calm, collected and respectable member in the group but now... hope the victim gets justice and taeil be severely punished
The fact that he's the most sweetest, shy, keeps to himself, an incredible singer, barely takes the spotlight kinda member of the group makes it 10000x hard to believe and makes me wanna rethink my entire life and people around me. This is the most INSANE thing happening in KPOP 2024.
The nerve to compare a cheating rumor to an actual confirmed criminal…a sexual criminal at that. Y’all stay finding ways to drag him into shit that has nothing to do with him. Taeil has now become the person y’all have wanted Lucas to be for the past 2, 3 years.
you are so brave for sharing your story. i am so incredibly sorry that happened to you, and i hope you heal well ❤🩹 this entire situation was just so heartbreaking to me. for so many years, nct's music (especially nct 127 and wayv) has been a constant for me through everything. i wasn't exactly parasocially attached, but there are probably so many people who were and nobody can even blame them because these kpop groups are MADE for that reason. they are made so that fans can seek comfort and happiness in these idols and devote their time, money and emotions into the groups and their members. this just goes to show that you never truly know someone, because you are made to see what they want to show you, and they are so fucking good at doing that, that you just eliminate the thought of them being a horrible person underneath that "green flag" persona completely. i hope his victims get justice and peace, and i hope others like taeil in the korean entertainment industry get exposed as soon as possible too.
As a victim myself it’s really sad seeing insta comments and yt comments defending him and being rude to the victim, like what actually happened to morals?
I don't know you personally, but I'm genuinely so proud of you for sharing your story with us and being a voice for others who have had similar things happen to them. I want you to know that we're proud of you and hope you can find some kind of peace of mind though I know it's probably very difficult. Of course, I don't know you personally, but I love your content, and I'm so horrified that happened to you. Thank you for being a survivor, much love and peace from me 🫶🫶
Spreading misinformation to make people hate him more is disrespectful to what actually happened to the victim. It's about justice for the victim, not making people hate that criminal (obviously thats gonna happen either way).
There IS truth to it, hence why SM released a statement and took swift action. Were there rumors going around for a while? Idk tbh but it was a slight shock to me. What not shocking tho, is the fact that fans r still ready to defend...i mean okay, innocent till proven guilty, but didnt SM's statement gave yall a hint???
Thank you!!! I needed someone to say this! People are commenting on his posts about an 11 year old girl and people are believing it without any thought! As much as I’m disgusted by taeil and hope he gets punished, it’s unfair to the victims to have their stories twisted and made up!
i think there a big chance that he is guilty look at Lucas case, he was juer puted in hiatus first then it was decided that he left NCT but he still an SM artist here right a way he was kicked from NCT for me there solid proofs, there also the hypthesis that that SM don't ruin NCT reputation since it there big money maker group with aespa but i lean more to the 1st option i saw someone saying that his contract will end soon, if it's true they just have to wait that his contract end to kicked him out if he culpirit he is a trash because no one deserve that women or men , but the worst is if i've read is true, his victim is a 06 liner so she is 18 years old, and he is a 94 liner so he is 30 years old, he stalked her and put a camera on her phone for 6 years it's mean if it's true that trash who was grown adult man of 24 years old have a disgusting desire for a child of 12 years old, it's called pedophilia 🤢🤮
The fact that he's the most sweetest, shy, keeps to himself, an incredible singer, barely takes the spotlight kinda member of the group makes it 10000x hard to believe and makes me wanna rethink my entire life and people around me. This is the most INSANE thing happening in KPOP 2024.
@@pxmpkxn6163 yeah he rapped and had sexual assault on minors females, in China and in the US, in my opinion he was probably was influenced by thr bad people in the US but he still disgusting. i still understand why guys especially guys like this (famous and handsomes) who have many women at their feet need to do that
The kpop spy out here giving us good information better politicians And also I think SM may have known about what those SM idols do I mean look at Kris former member of exo At This point hybe may just be laughing cause rumors had it that min hee jin and SM were working had to make hybe go through a downfall
@@ludity7628 actually new rumors are coming out that SM knew and that's why he was kicked out plus his Chinese SM treats Chinese idols really bad for example asepa Ning Ning getting horrible treating You should look it
I think you are reaching to far right now Kris commited those crime years after leaving SM. Saying this like draging every SM artist on the mess Anyone in the industry can be can be a terrible person we just never know...
@@Daisy-ue9vk I'm not a company stan I am an nctzen and also an exol I'm the first to point fingers at that company What I'm saying is Kris Wu left the company himself and sued them for mismagement if I'm not mistaken... It was years after that he commited those crime it has noting to do with this situation at all So you are reaching
I am so sorry for what happened to you You pointed many important things: - it is clear he did something and it is probably serious, but people should stop making up stuff and let the police work - we know nothing about idols' real personalities and it is naive to think that with 100% certainty we can assume they are good people - all-men are trash/Korea hate mindset isn't fair - blaming female fans for staning boy groups is pathetic I would also add the fanwars, I saw people talking about Hybe karma and so on. Fans being happy about this because it will hurt rival company/group are disgusting
Didn't expect to leave the video heartbroken and this is probably all triggering for you right now idk what to say nithing could ever fix what those monsters took away but there is a lot of pride in surviving facing the reality and living with it idk how victims like you do it but everytime I see it I tell myself I could never my already broken soul would end up in a mental facility you were a pure soul and nothing is changing that always on the good side even as a victim so be proud of yourself LOVE YOU
When I was reading the comment sections of videos by K-Pop Junkee and angelina, I was pleasantly surprised by what they were saying. I was expecting people to say something like "No! This person is lying!"
Apparently the investigation has being going since June.... so let's not applaud SM, that man went to events while being investigated I'm so sorry that something so awful happen to you, i hope today you can live as normal as one can live having go through something so terrified
SM said in there statement that they KNEW about the investigation MID AUGUST same time as that PREDATOR and THATS FACTS so why the hell are you coming for SM when they didn’t even know about it till MID AUGUST are you that tone deaf or just want to drag the whole company down when they have other idols to protect and look after!! Also in terms of events at that time nobody knew he was a PREDATOR so of cause he went to the events during the album season and what not his been on hiatus due to a leg injury which is probably faked by him at this point so that he can continue his predatory activities on that poor woman
@@Nahazii did i offended you?? 🤣 Why are you trying to deffend SM, this wouldn't be the first time of them protecting a creep You need to relax And you really believe they didn't knew one of their idols was being investigated??!!! Bfr and about him going to the events... i know nobody knew (the fans) about all of this, obviously... 🙄
4:17 honestly i can understand that's why when ever i hear 'she/he should have said no' i get disgusted like i heard that when i was 10 after i told my parents about someone s3xually harrassing me, they said i should have said no
4:14 Oh wow… Boo I’m so sorry this happened.This took me so off guard. I get this as well also being a victim of 🍇. This whole situation is an example of kpop issue with feeding parasocial relationships. Kpop try to make sure people believe you know these celebrities. Especially boy groups get so close with these fans that when stuff comes out fans are delusional and believe they know them. I don’t blame Korean women for saying they are scared to Stan boy groups cus of burning sun scandal. It’s scary and makes folks rethink their faves too.
Apparently, the victim was 12 at the time when he started to do all this, and now she is 18. So for 6 years, (if this information is true), he has been doing this to her. Which makes him 24 at the time when all this began, *according to my 💩 maths*
Sorry but that's just a rumor being spread online. The victim never mentioned her age and even the police who have been investigating since june said "no crime was committed against a minor". So while yes he did stuff, no the victim wasn't 12.
You know this isn't about his talent nor his beautiful voice. This is about right and wrong whatever it maybe. and justice for the victim or victim's whoever was involved. The sad realization is this is all too common especially in the entertainment field. It's not just KPOP look at all the Artist over here in the States that are either serving time or being investigated right now for sex related crimes. It's pretty sickening. be careful who you idolize and view as a role model things and people are not always what they seem. And they are often leading a double life. And you know, anytime stuff like this happens you can't help but wonder how many people did or didn't know.
DO NOT F-ING BRING UP LUCAS in to this MESS !!!! His allegations were cheating & gaslighting. Those were also from anonymous twitter threads. Him leaving NCT or that vague apology was not an admission of guilt. He did that because members were getting hated left & right for mentioning him. So he decided to leave the group.If you gonna make such a video you should at least do it based on facts instead of rumours.
01:50 Found myself nodding along and saying, "yeahhhh..." at this observation. They threw him straight overboard. Hard to imagine they did so without any evidence.
What does Lucas have to do with this?? Why did you bring him up here? His allegations were gaslighting and cheating, two timer. Tf wrong with people who keep saying he did this horrible crime..
I am disappointed and disgusted! Now fans are burning photo cards and posters of Taeil. But I bet these are the same fans who say leave these guys alone, they're adults they can do what they want and make excuses for them eveytime they violate their contracts, As fans we should not support anything that idols do that is wrong and that includes smoking, vaping, drugs, getting drunk, or other bad behavior. Kpop idols are not like American celebrities or aren't suppost to be. They signed contracts to be role models and to live moral lives. That's the deal, the contract, and the agreement that they sign on for. If they don't want to live that kind of life then they shouldn't sign up to be a kpop idol, period. I'm so sick and tired of hearing certain fans say, "let them do this or that they're adults." Well part of being an adult is learning how to say no to things that aren't good or good for you. If they are allowed to get away with the small little things and have fans defend it, they're going to continue to do bad things and make bad decisions because they have ignorant fans who support their dumb decisions. That gives them a feeling of entitlment and invincibility to do as they please, and this will embolden them to try increasingly worse things and make more costyly mistakes. So if they sign on a contract that says they will be a good role model and live a moral life, then decide they can't fill their contract, they should stop being a kpop idol. And fans should stop making excuses for them when they violate their contracts. That includes dating. If their company expects that, and they can't uphold their contract then don't sign on and find another job. It's a lie if they are dishonering their contract. Fans should not support or applaud lies and deception. If that is the agreement between the company and the trainee or idol then they should be an adult and with integrity live up to their contract.
Don't smile, act cute, and try to win fans hearts and support, and also money and time they can't get back if you want to dishonor your commitments! If you want to be a free agent and live life how you want then quit, and don't act like you're some choir boy or girl. Dating and getting married are good; marriage a great thing, but each idol signs a contract that says they won't. So they should hold true to their word. Other things like smoking, vaping, getting drunk, clubbing, doing drugs (including marijuana) does not set good examples or a good role make. I simply ask these kpop idols to live up to their word and contracts. If you can't fullfill your contract and commitment, resign because you have millions of fans who support you and look up to you, and your very being is a lie and fraud. I would rather you be honest and quit and go do something else. At least you'll have some integrity and respect. Maybe some of the industry rules need to change , but breaking contracts and lying is not the way to get it done. And some fans need to take a look at themselves and deside if you have been complicit by building them up where they can do no wrong and make excuses for them when they violate their contracts and set bad examples. You spend your money on them and time, at least they could be what they say they are! Hold them accountable for their bad decisions no matter how small because it's a slippery slope. You're burning Taeil cards, but did you have a hand in helping him make excuses for bad behavior?! NCT 127 and NCT are my top favorite, but if I keep hearing allegations like Taeil's and even Johnny and Haechan's back a couple of months, I'm out. I'm tired of wondering if who I think I like is actually neffarious. I will not listen to one more NCT anything if they turn out to be a bunch of sex addicts who purchase prostitutes, force themselves on women, or any other bad behavior no matter how small. I'm am American, I liked kpop and Korean entertainment in the beginning because they seemed to hold their entertainers accountable for wrong doing something that we no longer see in Hollywood. I got sick of the filth coming out of there, and I have no problem forgetting kpop and korean entertainment if they can't get this right!
I get what you are trying to say, but I also believe kpop idols shouldn't be expected to be perfect. To me there is a big difference between someone committing a serious crime and an idol smoking. Of course I would prefer they don't smoke, but I'm not going to stop my support because they do. I mean you're free to boycott every idol who isn't perfect, but just know you're not going to have anyone left to support.
Omg thank you !!!! Esp abt the last part cuz I’ve been trying to say it but people wouldn’t hear me out! The "Korean men are scumbags" is just somewhat racist ? Like misogyny is a worldwide problem ! It’s not limited to Korea. I also wanna talk to the people who say "there’s no way the other members didn’t know of this" the scary thing about predators is that they act and behave like us, sometimes it’s people who are close to us. I wouldn’t be surprised if the other members didn’t know of that. And the "reminder you don’t know your idols irl" this argument applies when we talk about an idol being potentially rude/mean behind the scenes. Not a predator, cuz again, even if you were, you wouldn’t notice. Most sa victims reported being saed by someone they trusted (family member/friend/husband…) that’s what’s so scary about sa. Even if you know them and trust them (which btw is normal, trust is human nature) they can still be capable of atrocities.
Stop making excuses. THEY KNEW! Especially about the ones that were even bragging about it. Everybody knows. It's time something gets done about it... 🤞
Was it THAT necessary to drag Lucas so suddenly?? I'm not even a fan of his but seriously.. Other than that, I hope you're doing okay after your poor experience with those degenerate men ☹️
wow you are really fast making these videos, and omg I’m so sorry that you got sa’d, it’s really disgusting and horrible, like why would you do that to your own kind😭
Sm didn't kick out Lucas cause he wasn't 100% guilty He sure did bad but not as bad as the social media made it look like ( not defending him ) But with tail ?? Kickin him out of the group directly before K fans and media talk about it Mean what happened is literally serious + Im so sorry for you hope you forget it and have a nice life in the future
Thanks for your comment, I was thinking the same. I don't think SM kept Lucas just for his potential, (even because talent wise, Taeil is way upper), Lucas was hated but wasn't guilty, and the courts know it, so it was safe for SM to try again with him.
@@biggestsimpfrfr lucas was also under similar allegations but it was just people online, so sm just had him take a haitus untill everything was settled down but its different now because they kicked taeil out so it seems as if he might have actually done something
@@biggestsimpfrfrLc's allegations are cheating and being a sugar baby when he was 19, is not comparable to this atrocity, I don't understand why kpoppies keep mentioning it and spreading misinformation.
that's what i said. Its clear he did something but people are making up stuff and don't like it. Obviously i believe that he's guilty because lucas is an example of it. What i don't like is all the members are getting dragged. No one said anything about them and they would have been kicked out too. Floating the other members Instagram about taeil instead of his is annoying.
How tf is Lucas “guilty”? Because he wrote some SM standardized apology letter? Or bc he verbalized it in a documentary and you suddenly believe it’s an admission of guilt? How gullible can you people be with your preconceived notions? Also, stop bringing him up on another guy’s crimes. LC’s were all fake allegations, the same thing cannot be said to the other guy
Of all the names you could have mentioned-like Kris Wu or Seungri-you chose Lucas, who was proven innocent? It's clear you're just dragging him into this without understanding the facts. You don’t seem to have any problem bringing up Lucas, even though he was also part of the group. So, it's okay to mention him, but not the other members? You realize Johnny and Haechan have faced similar situations too, yet you assume they're innocent and Lucas is guilty? Make it make sense.
@@Seunghancomebackhome please don't blame others when you lack writing skills. So many typos. What do you even mean by 'floating'? People leaving comments on other members IG instead of Taeil? Is that what you meant?
@@adieha or maybe learn how comprehend. Lucas was chosen because he was under sm and they handle his situation. What does kris Wu have to do with it he was not under sm when his SA allegation happened. Seungri was under yg not sm use your brain. And wdym what does it mean use your brain and think its not hard
If the rumor is true, then I don't know what to say. Imagine training for so many years just to throw it through the window. I still prefer to not believe the victim because we have seen a lot of fake victims in the past, but if SME kicked him out that fast, it might be true which is sad. For Seungri and friends - I'm still surprised they're not in jail even when there are video and chat proofs. "All stars will fall one day" maybe the time has come
SM talking about it and kicking him out instead of being silent and putting him on an hiatus says A LOT
They are getting articles deleted though
@@DancingRain_1997so?
@@btsismyoxyjin2013 they are trying to hide the wrong deeds of the criminal
They knew for months police investigated him, but SM got enough influence w media to keep it under wraps until it’s time for them to kick him out.
@yen-8680 no sm only knew since mid august. they did not know he was getting investigated.
4:06 that’s so horrible that happened to you, it takes a lot of strength and courage to share that. I hope you heal and receive so much love and support
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YG = Burning Sun
SM: "Hold my beer"
K-pop stans: "He's a great singer. I love his visual and his dances are godlike. So, he's innocent and if he isn't, then, the little girl shouldn't wear such short skirt."
To say that im disappointed, disgusted and baffled is an understatement.!
You can bring all the CRIMES of this person bc ofc we should spread but how is a literally sex offender in the same level of LC? who was only accused for "cheating" and don't wanting sexual encounters with an older woman, like how for you thats on the same leven and how hes an abuser for doing all the contrary of an abuse?? thats not, don't withdraw the attention of the real problem: Moon Taeil's atrocities and follow the case to make sure he receive a good punishment also something most of people forget, the support to the victim in future days, wont be easy for her being the center of attention and show face to face with her long time abuser.
🚨SM Entertainment has not terminated its contract with TAEIL despite his departure from NCT following his allegedly involvement in a sex crime case.
This is most likely because If SM forces a contract termination TAEIL has to be paid, and since his contract is coming to an end soon, they probably chose to wait over losing money.
SM updated their website, removing his profile from NCT's, but keeping him listed as a solo musician. Taeil has lost quite a lot of his followers on social media, (I think IG), the NCT members have unfollowed him and deleted all posts with him in it. 🚨
why do people keep bringing up lucas? what does cheating and being a bad boyfriend have to do with actual disgusting crimes? i don't understand. where is the hate for chanyeol then? what about onew?
Exactly. As a survivor of SA myself, I personally feel insulted that haters turned this issue into SA even though the allegations were cheating and gaslighting. It’s also very insulting that they support actual perpetrators lying about being “victims”, especially that person who believes these lies is also a survivor
I'm so sorry that happened to you. The saddest part is people trying to reason with these assaults. I'm from India, the r*pe and sexual assault cases are coming in left and right. Women here are TERRIFIED. I hope you stay strong as ever gurl. We are here for you 🤍
LOVE HOW you relay information. You'd think people would learn to stop jumping to conclusions after the whole Suga issue.
Clearly something took place since his company made moves so quickly, but that's all we know for sure. If the police had to address what the investigation isn't about (ie. same sex or underage person) then you know the internet is out of order. Some police and reporters tend to play fast and loose with the truth/facts. Not sure if they know anymore or care, but don't feed into the problem. Also, be mindful that if things turn out to be false, since you've already tried and convicted this person publicly, his life will still be ruined. Stop reacting to epic headlines and lets wait for the truth to rear it's ugly head. Remember the truth. Good or bad, the media needs to get it right.
Also, i'm pissed off because the media keeps referring to this issue as "S" crime or "SA" crime (i see this a lot). WTF call this shit out for what it is, because people are really getting hurt. STOP sugar coating the foolishness. You can't say sex crime, but you can say scooter.
Sex crimes ok, but drive a small kickboard and they want to crucify you and get you kicked out of your group.
Thanks for sharing your story. Unfortunately i can relate
Thanks for your reaction
Thank you so much Luv 💕💕
Guys we need to give this k-tuber more superthanks and tips because they're the most consistent k-pop TH-cam out there. No one out there is dropping high quality videos daily, only this channel so please guys let's help her and give her more superthanks so we can encourage her to keep going ❤❤❤
4:30 I'm so sorry that happened to you. Kudos to you for being brave enough to share this with thousands of people, I hope you're okay!
As a fellow victim, the last few days of news coming out of South Korea has been hard. For me it’s been almost a decade, but my experiences still impact me to this day which makes stories like this hit very hard.
I’m glad Taeil is hopefully going to be held accountable for his action. But we should hold off on speculating about what happened. All the speculation just harms the victim and honestly harms all victims to see our experiences turned into sensational gossip and fanwar fodder.
I’m so sorry sweetie. I’ll keep you in my thoughts and prayers. The world is a nasty and rotten place.
I am sorry for what happened to you… 😢 What you described is so heartbreaking… I pray that God puts a light in your heart that you feel healed again 🤲🏻❤️
4:06 I don’t know what to say…I’m so sorry this happened to you. Your strength in sharing this is incredible. Please know that what happened is not your fault, and you deserve all the support and care as you heal. Take care of yourself, and remember that you’re not alone. ❤️🩹
Thank you so much 🙏🏻 I really appreciate your love & support❤️
@@kpop-spy You're very welcome 😊. I'm glad you felt supported. Wishing you strength and peace as you move forward 💖✨.
@@kpop-spy I hope you're better now. ❤
Bruh..Im so sorry u had to go through this...i cant imagine the trauma u have to endure, and what u feel hearing these kind of incidents..
Take care of yourself, ur strong and loved ❤️
Well, it is stupid to generalize a whole country, but knowing Korea and the men there i dont feel guilty to generalize, every single day there is news of a new man hurting a woman, woman´s in that country have to peace nor justice.
lucas was proven to be innocent, saesangs ruined his life and his career. sm isnt having tolerance for bad behaviour, lucas wasnt guilty, sm handled the situation wrongly and now they are trying to make up for it. any idol PROVEN to have actually commited sex crimes definitely shouldnt have a career to fall back on. but false accusations exist, and the people who falsely try to frame people should face consequences as well.
Right when I started college 2 years ago I went through the same, two fuckers drugged me and the worst happened, I could've been dead now bc I didn't knew them and where I live when girls go through s/a usually the abusers kill them after. One of the two guys was a child school teacher double my age, the other one I didn't even knew who he was until that day. Both tried to paint me as a slut that accepted their advances then felt ashamed, the cops believed them instead of me even though i had marks all over my body and even though I'd never say yes to this bc I'm a lesbian. I had to leave the college of my dreams that I worked all my life to enter bc one of them was a drug dealer and death threatened me. I've never done drugs in my life. I left the town and moved colleges. Two years after I cannot be alone with any man without feeling frightened with what would he do to me if he had the chance. I still feel guilt bc of how naive I was at that time, even though I did nothing wrong. I don't have male friends anymore bc all my male acquaintances failed me (that's on a deeper level and I don't feel like sharing). I still go to college on other institution, but I feel like an empty shell. I can't talk with a male teacher without thinking he might be an abuser or some sort of freak
To this girl, I wish her nothing but strength, the system fails with us every day, and in the end we have only each other as a support system. I truly wish she makes through it alive before the trauma takes her out of this world. To those who never went through this, I truly hope you never experience any kind of abuse, you don't know how gut wrenching it is to have your will to live stripped away of you. Support abuse victims, don't doubt them just bc they're not behaving like you expected them to do. Listen to us, tell us everything is gonna be ok, bring us to psychological help centers, help us with police cases, spread our words bc our lives were stripped from us since the day the abuse started and it will never come back
I truly want some day no one will never have to deal with this kind of shit
Thank you for sharing this. I'm sending you love and even more strength, and wish for you to heal more and more every day. Please be kind to yourself and remember it was not your fault. It took so much strength to take the steps that you did, and you are helping people now with this post.
Joy should not have been stolen from you, and I'm wishing you an endless amount in the future.
are you from India?
@@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq brazil
Someone legit said the victim was his sister - like tf? Where r yall gettin this information from??
Lets just stay on track atleast, instead of exaggerating
Like it’s clout chasing 😭 it’s nothing but a joke to them
@@Maneater1206ikr its crazy how they have the audacity to make sht like this up
SM usually just puts their idols on hiatuses after something big happens, so he definitely might have did what he’s being charged of. This is such a big reality check for K-pop fans that idols or even anyone around you aren’t usually who you think they are or how they show themselves on camera. That innocent, kind, chummy personality, we see on camera could be fake. Hence why we should not put these idols on pedestals and worship them. I am 🤏🏻 this close from unstanning NCT. I still am shocked but this…is JUST AN UNDERSTATEMENT 😖😖
Thats why i dont stan stan them, i just listen to their music
Heck, jaeil was my second fav vocalist🗿
KPOP in 2024 is wild 😭😭
Oh my God, i am so sorry that happened to you
But you are stronger than than what happened to you, "rise above what happened like a phoenix "
Fighting 💪💪💪💪💪
I'm so sorry for you and for other SA victims. The fact that those disgusting people can move on so quickly, but the victims are left to pick up the pieces of their broken lives is just so unfair...
It was really hard sharing something like that about me but the reaction from you guys made all worth it 🙏🏻🙏🏻Thank you so much ❤️
@kpop-spy I hope you heal completely even though it might be impossible but I'm praying for you❤️❤️
@@kpop-spyI hope you’re okay. You deserve peace ❤️
The fact that he's the most sweetest, shy, keeps to himself, an incredible singer, barely takes the spotlight kinda member of the group makes it 10000x hard to believe and makes me wanna rethink my entire life and people around me. This is the most INSANE thing happening in KPOP 2024.
@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq i'm sorry to burst your bubble, but he was never the sweetest and it's usually those type of men who do these things. the men who are on the sidelines and nobody really knows anything about them. i always thought that i knew nothing about taeil, only that he was a great vocalist and the oldest. i always saw him as the most typical male member and just didn't really care if he was there or not.
@@zelwonnie if you're not an NCTzen, you don't get to yap
@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq i've literally been an nctzen since early 2018. why else would i speak on this? i just knew the other members better, but taeil was always mysterious to me.
I am sorry for what happened to you. I wish you all the best.
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I'm sorry for what happened to you I hope that everything is okay and God bless you❤❤❤❤
As another victim to another, thank you for sharing your story so publicly it was very brave of you! I hope Taeil gets what he deserves.
i am so sorry that happened to you i hope you are doing well and living your life to fullest
This situation is disgusting, hope the victim is safe and will get her justice, and i just wish a certain fandom would to stop using the victims pain as a weapon for fan war.
I'm incredibly sorry for what happened to you, you're so strong:(❤
4:06 OMG i had no idea you were a victim of SA💔💔 I'm so sorry😢😢
Don't drag Lucas here, he has nothing to do with this real criminal case, since he was never charged.
The thing I'll always stand on is to never entertain a para social relationship with your idol cuz you never know who they're on the behind the scenes
i'm so sorry for you, no one deserves that done to them.
I am so sorry you were sexually assaulted. No one deserves that, and I hope you understand it was not your fault *in the slightest*. You are strong, brave, and you are a survivor! Keep going baby. It's all up from here ❤
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i loved taeil. he was pretty much like a role model for me. becuz of him i was interested in improving my singing skills. his voice and highnotes felt like heaven to me but now it feels like hell. i am not even mad, im just flabbergasted. i literally cried but some shitty ass ppl were like "why tf are u crying over a celeb? dont u know that idols dont show their real image infront of the camera?" BITCH I KNOW THAT. i am been an nctzen fan for a while, i have many of their songs downloaded and i would get excited whenever they would release songs, but that doesnt make u be entitled to belittle my feelings and admirations for nct, especially from taeil who is the oldest members and one of the members who were in the original nct lineup. because of the fact that i am invested in nct's discographies is the reason taeil's case makes me SO DISAPPOINTED AND HURT. he was a calm, collected and respectable member in the group but now...
hope the victim gets justice and taeil be severely punished
The fact that he's the most sweetest, shy, keeps to himself, an incredible singer, barely takes the spotlight kinda member of the group makes it 10000x hard to believe and makes me wanna rethink my entire life and people around me. This is the most INSANE thing happening in KPOP 2024.
@@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq sm vs hybe, the min heejin vs hybe, EVEN the fifty fifty case are far better than this. im so shocked...oh my god...
The nerve to compare a cheating rumor to an actual confirmed criminal…a sexual criminal at that. Y’all stay finding ways to drag him into shit that has nothing to do with him. Taeil has now become the person y’all have wanted Lucas to be for the past 2, 3 years.
Im sorry that happened to you and I hope you’re healing from that experience 🌺
you are so brave for sharing your story. i am so incredibly sorry that happened to you, and i hope you heal well ❤🩹
this entire situation was just so heartbreaking to me. for so many years, nct's music (especially nct 127 and wayv) has been a constant for me through everything. i wasn't exactly parasocially attached, but there are probably so many people who were and nobody can even blame them because these kpop groups are MADE for that reason. they are made so that fans can seek comfort and happiness in these idols and devote their time, money and emotions into the groups and their members. this just goes to show that you never truly know someone, because you are made to see what they want to show you, and they are so fucking good at doing that, that you just eliminate the thought of them being a horrible person underneath that "green flag" persona completely. i hope his victims get justice and peace, and i hope others like taeil in the korean entertainment industry get exposed as soon as possible too.
As a victim myself it’s really sad seeing insta comments and yt comments defending him and being rude to the victim, like what actually happened to morals?
What is going on in K-pop rn….
YG's burning sun?
SM: "hold my K-pop beer"
I don't know you personally, but I'm genuinely so proud of you for sharing your story with us and being a voice for others who have had similar things happen to them. I want you to know that we're proud of you and hope you can find some kind of peace of mind though I know it's probably very difficult. Of course, I don't know you personally, but I love your content, and I'm so horrified that happened to you. Thank you for being a survivor, much love and peace from me 🫶🫶
Spreading misinformation to make people hate him more is disrespectful to what actually happened to the victim. It's about justice for the victim, not making people hate that criminal (obviously thats gonna happen either way).
I'm so sorry you went through this🙏 You're strong and loved please don't ever think it's your fault
This should be wake up call you don't know these idols personally. I watched Stephanie soo and im not that shocked
There IS truth to it, hence why SM released a statement and took swift action. Were there rumors going around for a while? Idk tbh but it was a slight shock to me. What not shocking tho, is the fact that fans r still ready to defend...i mean okay, innocent till proven guilty, but didnt SM's statement gave yall a hint???
And theres people joking about it like..
No disregard for victims💔
I’m so sorry that happened to you, I really hope you heal❤
why arent there articles on naver then if they arent deleting articles?
I'm so sorry for what has happened to you. ❤ sending love and peace to you.
In sk burning sun scandals is everywhere. Do not blindly worship idols. K-pop industry is more darker than you think.
I’m so sorry what happened to you.
Thank you!!! I needed someone to say this! People are commenting on his posts about an 11 year old girl and people are believing it without any thought! As much as I’m disgusted by taeil and hope he gets punished, it’s unfair to the victims to have their stories twisted and made up!
another gc with 400k men was found , thats total of 600k
i think there a big chance that he is guilty look at Lucas case, he was juer puted in hiatus first then it was decided that he left NCT but he still an SM artist
here right a way he was kicked from NCT for me there solid proofs, there also the hypthesis that that SM don't ruin NCT reputation since it there big money maker group with aespa but i lean more to the 1st option
i saw someone saying that his contract will end soon, if it's true they just have to wait that his contract end to kicked him out
if he culpirit he is a trash because no one deserve that women or men , but the worst is if i've read is true, his victim is a 06 liner so she is 18 years old, and he is a 94 liner so he is 30 years old, he stalked her and put a camera on her phone for 6 years it's mean if it's true that trash who was grown adult man of 24 years old have a disgusting desire for a child of 12 years old,
it's called pedophilia 🤢🤮
Ew gurl imma throw up
I'm so disgusted he was my bias 🤢
you will move on don't worry
i used to be a HUGE fan of Kris Wu now i don't care a shit about him
@@NingKook000 I respect you so much
The fact that he's the most sweetest, shy, keeps to himself, an incredible singer, barely takes the spotlight kinda member of the group makes it 10000x hard to believe and makes me wanna rethink my entire life and people around me. This is the most INSANE thing happening in KPOP 2024.
@@NingKook000Was that the guy who got sentenced to 10 years in prison because he raped someone?
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yeah he rapped and had sexual assault on minors females, in China and in the US, in my opinion he was probably was influenced by thr bad people in the US but he still disgusting.
i still understand why guys especially guys like this (famous and handsomes) who have many women at their feet need to do that
That's why kpop fangirls shouldn't worshipped and idolize these kpop idol
The kpop spy out here giving us good information better politicians
And also I think SM may have known about what those SM idols do
I mean look at Kris former member of exo
At This point hybe may just be laughing cause rumors had it that min hee jin and SM were working had to make hybe go through a downfall
kris left exo years before anything happened, so yeah i agree with you but this is not a good example
@@ludity7628 actually new rumors are coming out that SM knew and that's why he was kicked out plus his Chinese
SM treats Chinese idols really bad for example asepa Ning Ning getting horrible treating
You should look it
I think you are reaching to far right now Kris commited those crime years after leaving SM. Saying this like draging every SM artist on the mess
Anyone in the industry can be can be a terrible person we just never know...
@@wahsunnyy it's not a reach just say you support and stan SM
@@Daisy-ue9vk I'm not a company stan I am an nctzen and also an exol I'm the first to point fingers at that company
What I'm saying is Kris Wu left the company himself and sued them for mismagement if I'm not mistaken...
It was years after that he commited those crime it has noting to do with this situation at all
So you are reaching
Thank you for being brave enough to share your story.
Finally someone with common sense who stated Facts and also called out all the misinformation and generalisation.
I am so sorry for what happened to you
You pointed many important things:
- it is clear he did something and it is probably serious, but people should stop making up stuff and let the police work
- we know nothing about idols' real personalities and it is naive to think that with 100% certainty we can assume they are good people
- all-men are trash/Korea hate mindset isn't fair
- blaming female fans for staning boy groups is pathetic
I would also add the fanwars, I saw people talking about Hybe karma and so on. Fans being happy about this because it will hurt rival company/group are disgusting
I’m glad you shared your story with the world. I agree that the system is definitely broken.
Didn't expect to leave the video heartbroken and this is probably all triggering for you right now idk what to say nithing could ever fix what those monsters took away but there is a lot of pride in surviving facing the reality and living with it idk how victims like you do it but everytime I see it I tell myself I could never my already broken soul would end up in a mental facility you were a pure soul and nothing is changing that always on the good side even as a victim so be proud of yourself LOVE YOU
I'm so sorry that happened to you. You're so brave for sharing your story. I love your videos!! I hope you heal. 🩵🩵
Wow, SM, actually decided to care this time.
When I was reading the comment sections of videos by K-Pop Junkee and angelina, I was pleasantly surprised by what they were saying. I was expecting people to say something like "No! This person is lying!"
Apparently the investigation has being going since June.... so let's not applaud SM, that man went to events while being investigated
I'm so sorry that something so awful happen to you, i hope today you can live as normal as one can live having go through something so terrified
SM said in there statement that they KNEW about the investigation MID AUGUST same time as that PREDATOR and THATS FACTS so why the hell are you coming for SM when they didn’t even know about it till MID AUGUST are you that tone deaf or just want to drag the whole company down when they have other idols to protect and look after!!
Also in terms of events at that time nobody knew he was a PREDATOR so of cause he went to the events during the album season and what not his been on hiatus due to a leg injury which is probably faked by him at this point so that he can continue his predatory activities on that poor woman
@@Nahazii did i offended you?? 🤣
Why are you trying to deffend SM, this wouldn't be the first time of them protecting a creep
You need to relax
And you really believe they didn't knew one of their idols was being investigated??!!! Bfr and about him going to the events... i know nobody knew (the fans) about all of this, obviously... 🙄
4:17 honestly i can understand that's why when ever i hear 'she/he should have said no' i get disgusted like i heard that when i was 10 after i told my parents about someone s3xually harrassing me, they said i should have said no
Like if it was that easy...❤️🩹 We're here for you 💖
4:14 Oh wow… Boo I’m so sorry this happened.This took me so off guard. I get this as well also being a victim of 🍇.
This whole situation is an example of kpop issue with feeding parasocial relationships. Kpop try to make sure people believe you know these celebrities. Especially boy groups get so close with these fans that when stuff comes out fans are delusional and believe they know them.
I don’t blame Korean women for saying they are scared to Stan boy groups cus of burning sun scandal. It’s scary and makes folks rethink their faves too.
Apparently, the victim was 12 at the time when he started to do all this, and now she is 18. So for 6 years, (if this information is true), he has been doing this to her. Which makes him 24 at the time when all this began, *according to my 💩 maths*
So they had 12 years gap with the alleged victim?
@@misskata8511If the math is correct then I hate to say it but yeah?
Sorry but that's just a rumor being spread online. The victim never mentioned her age and even the police who have been investigating since june said "no crime was committed against a minor". So while yes he did stuff, no the victim wasn't 12.
Noooo this is just a rumor
Wait? What I had seen was the report read- minor of the same sex- not no minor. Just not same sex minor. Idk.
I sorry for that. I hope you can recover from it. We are all here for you ❤❤
I am so sorry for what happened to you, you’re my favorite K-creator and I love your videos❤ I hope you are better now
You know this isn't about his talent nor his beautiful voice. This is about right and wrong whatever it maybe. and justice for the victim or victim's whoever was involved. The sad realization is this is all too common especially in the entertainment field. It's not just KPOP look at all the Artist over here in the States that are either serving time or being investigated right now for sex related crimes. It's pretty sickening. be careful who you idolize and view as a role model things and people are not always what they seem. And they are often leading a double life. And you know, anytime stuff like this happens you can't help but wonder how many people did or didn't know.
Lucas didn’t do anything wrong they were false rumors against him
dont drag lucas here wth
DO NOT F-ING BRING UP LUCAS in to this MESS !!!! His allegations were cheating & gaslighting. Those were also from anonymous twitter threads. Him leaving NCT or that vague apology was not an admission of guilt. He did that because members were getting hated left & right for mentioning him. So he decided to leave the group.If you gonna make such a video you should at least do it based on facts instead of rumours.
I'm tired of people bring back up Lucas in this situation. Focus on the topic
See I thought it was weird poster mentioned Lucas when the both situations are nowhere comparable.
Right? They just think he’s guilty just cuz the pseudo victims aka sasaengs said so
ikr
I guess Taeil is the Predator of the month
Girl???? Wtf? It’s 6 in the morning I just got off work, GO TO BED
4:04 dear God I’m so sorry
different time zones exist?
@@__ubwI clearly wasn’t being serious…. But thanks Captain Obvious for being that one annoying person.
@@OGseoulite oh sorry for asking
01:50 Found myself nodding along and saying, "yeahhhh..." at this observation. They threw him straight overboard. Hard to imagine they did so without any evidence.
girl don’t bring lucas into this
Thanks for sharing you story. I'm so sorry fir what happened to you.
What does Lucas have to do with this?? Why did you bring him up here? His allegations were gaslighting and cheating, two timer. Tf wrong with people who keep saying he did this horrible crime..
4:10 wow.. I didn't know it happened to you, i hope you're oksy :(💗💗
I am disappointed and disgusted! Now fans are burning photo cards and posters of Taeil. But I bet these are the same fans who say leave these guys alone, they're adults they can do what they want and make excuses for them eveytime they violate their contracts, As fans we should not support anything that idols do that is wrong and that includes smoking, vaping, drugs, getting drunk, or other bad behavior. Kpop idols are not like American celebrities or aren't suppost to be. They signed contracts to be role models and to live moral lives. That's the deal, the contract, and the agreement that they sign on for. If they don't want to live that kind of life then they shouldn't sign up to be a kpop idol, period.
I'm so sick and tired of hearing certain fans say, "let them do this or that they're adults." Well part of being an adult is learning how to say no to things that aren't good or good for you. If they are allowed to get away with the small little things and have fans defend it, they're going to continue to do bad things and make bad decisions because they have ignorant fans who support their dumb decisions. That gives them a feeling of entitlment and invincibility to do as they please, and this will embolden them to try increasingly worse things and make more costyly mistakes.
So if they sign on a contract that says they will be a good role model and live a moral life, then decide they can't fill their contract, they should stop being a kpop idol. And fans should stop making excuses for them when they violate their contracts. That includes dating. If their company expects that, and they can't uphold their contract then don't sign on and find another job. It's a lie if they are dishonering their contract. Fans should not support or applaud lies and deception. If that is the agreement between the company and the trainee or idol then they should be an adult and with integrity live up to their contract.
Don't smile, act cute, and try to win fans hearts and support, and also money and time they can't get back if you want to dishonor your commitments! If you want to be a free agent and live life how you want then quit, and don't act like you're some choir boy or girl. Dating and getting married are good; marriage a great thing, but each idol signs a contract that says they won't. So they should hold true to their word. Other things like smoking, vaping, getting drunk, clubbing, doing drugs (including marijuana) does not set good examples or a good role make. I simply ask these kpop idols to live up to their word and contracts. If you can't fullfill your contract and commitment, resign because you have millions of fans who support you and look up to you, and your very being is a lie and fraud. I would rather you be honest and quit and go do something else. At least you'll have some integrity and respect.
Maybe some of the industry rules need to change , but breaking contracts and lying is not the way to get it done. And some fans need to take a look at themselves and deside if you have been complicit by building them up where they can do no wrong and make excuses for them when they violate their contracts and set bad examples. You spend your money on them and time, at least they could be what they say they are! Hold them accountable for their bad decisions no matter how small because it's a slippery slope. You're burning Taeil cards, but did you have a hand in helping him make excuses for bad behavior?!
NCT 127 and NCT are my top favorite, but if I keep hearing allegations like Taeil's and even Johnny and Haechan's back a couple of months, I'm out. I'm tired of wondering if who I think I like is actually neffarious. I will not listen to one more NCT anything if they turn out to be a bunch of sex addicts who purchase prostitutes, force themselves on women, or any other bad behavior no matter how small. I'm am American, I liked kpop and Korean entertainment in the beginning because they seemed to hold their entertainers accountable for wrong doing something that we no longer see in Hollywood. I got sick of the filth coming out of there, and I have no problem forgetting kpop and korean entertainment if they can't get this right!
I get what you are trying to say, but I also believe kpop idols shouldn't be expected to be perfect. To me there is a big difference between someone committing a serious crime and an idol smoking. Of course I would prefer they don't smoke, but I'm not going to stop my support because they do. I mean you're free to boycott every idol who isn't perfect, but just know you're not going to have anyone left to support.
What happened with Johnny and Haechan?
@@rvdio_there was a rumor about them having a fivesome or something with consenting prostitutes which the company later denied.
They knew since June and not a peep was uttered yeah smells like a cover up
Omg thank you !!!! Esp abt the last part cuz I’ve been trying to say it but people wouldn’t hear me out! The "Korean men are scumbags" is just somewhat racist ? Like misogyny is a worldwide problem ! It’s not limited to Korea.
I also wanna talk to the people who say "there’s no way the other members didn’t know of this" the scary thing about predators is that they act and behave like us, sometimes it’s people who are close to us. I wouldn’t be surprised if the other members didn’t know of that. And the "reminder you don’t know your idols irl" this argument applies when we talk about an idol being potentially rude/mean behind the scenes. Not a predator, cuz again, even if you were, you wouldn’t notice. Most sa victims reported being saed by someone they trusted (family member/friend/husband…) that’s what’s so scary about sa. Even if you know them and trust them (which btw is normal, trust is human nature) they can still be capable of atrocities.
Stop making excuses. THEY KNEW! Especially about the ones that were even bragging about it. Everybody knows. It's time something gets done about it... 🤞
yikes seems like it is a cycle
Idk anything about those rumors on twitter, but I’m not believing anything said by those random users just the police
I'm so sorry. 💜
Was it THAT necessary to drag Lucas so suddenly?? I'm not even a fan of his but seriously..
Other than that, I hope you're doing okay after your poor experience with those degenerate men ☹️
Why did you bring lucas, who is an innocent man, into something that has nothing to do with him
wow you are really fast making these videos, and omg I’m so sorry that you got sa’d, it’s really disgusting and horrible, like why would you do that to your own kind😭
Im sorry for what happened to you♡♡♡♡♡♡
Sm didn't kick out Lucas cause he wasn't 100% guilty
He sure did bad but not as bad as the social media made it look like ( not defending him )
But with tail ??
Kickin him out of the group directly before K fans and media talk about it
Mean what happened is literally serious
+ Im so sorry for you hope you forget it and have a nice life in the future
if you don't mind, can you tell me what lucas did or didn't do..?
Thanks for your comment, I was thinking the same. I don't think SM kept Lucas just for his potential, (even because talent wise, Taeil is way upper), Lucas was hated but wasn't guilty, and the courts know it, so it was safe for SM to try again with him.
@@liliii4130 yeah exactly but the owner of this account hates him so I couldn't say other things
@@biggestsimpfrfr lucas was also under similar allegations but it was just people online, so sm just had him take a haitus untill everything was settled down but its different now because they kicked taeil out so it seems as if he might have actually done something
@@biggestsimpfrfrLc's allegations are cheating and being a sugar baby when he was 19, is not comparable to this atrocity, I don't understand why kpoppies keep mentioning it and spreading misinformation.
that's what i said. Its clear he did something but people are making up stuff and don't like it. Obviously i believe that he's guilty because lucas is an example of it. What i don't like is all the members are getting dragged. No one said anything about them and they would have been kicked out too. Floating the other members Instagram about taeil instead of his is annoying.
How tf is Lucas “guilty”? Because he wrote some SM standardized apology letter? Or bc he verbalized it in a documentary and you suddenly believe it’s an admission of guilt? How gullible can you people be with your preconceived notions? Also, stop bringing him up on another guy’s crimes. LC’s were all fake allegations, the same thing cannot be said to the other guy
@@billliealim i never he was tf is wrong with you? I said he's a good example of bad taeil situation is. Reading is clearly a skill u lack
Of all the names you could have mentioned-like Kris Wu or Seungri-you chose Lucas, who was proven innocent? It's clear you're just dragging him into this without understanding the facts.
You don’t seem to have any problem bringing up Lucas, even though he was also part of the group. So, it's okay to mention him, but not the other members? You realize Johnny and Haechan have faced similar situations too, yet you assume they're innocent and Lucas is guilty? Make it make sense.
@@Seunghancomebackhome please don't blame others when you lack writing skills. So many typos. What do you even mean by 'floating'? People leaving comments on other members IG instead of Taeil? Is that what you meant?
@@adieha or maybe learn how comprehend. Lucas was chosen because he was under sm and they handle his situation. What does kris Wu have to do with it he was not under sm when his SA allegation happened. Seungri was under yg not sm use your brain. And wdym what does it mean use your brain and think its not hard
and even nct member unfollowed him
Keep Lucas out of this
If the rumor is true, then I don't know what to say. Imagine training for so many years just to throw it through the window. I still prefer to not believe the victim because we have seen a lot of fake victims in the past, but if SME kicked him out that fast, it might be true which is sad.
For Seungri and friends - I'm still surprised they're not in jail even when there are video and chat proofs.
"All stars will fall one day" maybe the time has come
Why did you mention Lucas?!
Bc they believe in fake news
0:20 who is this trio?? Please someone tell
I think they are a part of tripleS